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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside hour two The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my bes friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: I'm an ass man.

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Speaker 1: It's over mercifully, so not a Monday night football game

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna write home about and say, man, I

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Speaker 1: remember I was there the night the Niners beat the

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Speaker 1: Panthers twenty to nine. Yay. It's one of two seventy two,

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Speaker 1: am right, partner of our run of not the greatest

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Speaker 1: nationally televised games during the week. It's not great, Bob,

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Speaker 1: Weekends been great either, Bob. No, well, yeah, but at

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Speaker 1: least we're getting big games. We had big comebacks yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But no, no, no, no, no, I'm saying the primetime games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, but at least like that on you

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Speaker 1: got to go to bed early ahead of your holiday

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Speaker 1: holiday holiday Monday. But that's the thing is because you

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Speaker 1: have the other games on Sunday that are good. If

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Speaker 1: the night games no good, Hey, I feel like it's okay.

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Speaker 1: I can get ahead on other things. I can get

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Speaker 1: ahead on work for the week. I get ahead on laundry,

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Speaker 1: I could do whatever I want to do. When it's

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Speaker 1: a standalone game and it stinks out, it's kind of tough.

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Speaker 4: No, it's tough one, but it does run a record.

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Speaker 4: And I ran this up by the guys because they

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Speaker 4: showed the graphic. This is now seventy three straight games

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Speaker 4: that the Panthers have lost when trailing by seven or

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Speaker 4: more going into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: Seventy two straight. I want to know who's for seventy

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Speaker 3: three tonight.

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Speaker 1: Who thought it was a great idea week twelve to

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Speaker 1: put the Panthers on Monday night foot. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: were six and five, buddy, But you were lucky. You

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Speaker 1: were lucky, and they were a boring six and five, right,

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Speaker 1: Not the was gonna rise up, but like the in

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Speaker 1: the off season, like who says, you know, we gotta

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Speaker 1: have back to back, we gotta have the Jets on

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Speaker 1: it and like week eleven and we gotta have the

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Speaker 1: Panthers on week twelve. Yeah, we need to like who who?

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Speaker 1: Who did that? Who thinks that's a good idea?

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Speaker 3: Is there's one of those where you've got to risk

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Speaker 4: And while they don't state that they've got a minimum

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Speaker 4: of primetime games, the teams have to be on that.

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Speaker 4: You're kind of foisting the Panthers on the nation because

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Speaker 4: you got four games that are isolated later on this week.

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Speaker 4: Right Like when we when we talk about the grid

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Speaker 4: and the way it works out, it's like, all right,

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Speaker 4: well we got them, so we can't have them back

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Speaker 4: on Thursday and Friday. So that's taking eight teams off

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Speaker 4: the board right away and then you start moving from there.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Panthers in primetime. At least we got to

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Speaker 4: see tenorro and McMillan find a touchdown after Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotta be easy, Like, AI can do

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Speaker 1: the schedule now in a second. Oh okay, we have

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Speaker 1: too many teams here. Okay, we'll do this. We'll do this,

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Speaker 1: and really you can you can figure this out. Hey,

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Speaker 1: AI put the good teams in the best. Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have this team. We're not gonna the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets play Week eleven. We're got the Jets play

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Speaker 1: opening week on Thursday night to get them out of

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Speaker 1: the way while there's all kinds of excitement. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. I really, with the way the advance

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Speaker 1: of technology now, like you could have the schedule done

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Speaker 4: You can a bunch of that, right, and then is

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Speaker 4: the mileage and and trying to equalize that and go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you could do that.

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Speaker 4: I mean it would cost some people their jobs that

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Speaker 4: probably get some pretty good perks with the NFL, So

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Speaker 4: I think they'd be a little pissed off.

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Speaker 1: Well this game, right, Okay, so despite the fact you

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Speaker 1: the Niners go to seven and four, and not only

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Speaker 1: am I not believing in the Niners, they're starting to

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Speaker 1: it's starting to piss me off that there these wins

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Speaker 1: and how good that the Niners aren't any good the Niners.

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Speaker 1: And this in a year where no NFL team outside

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Speaker 1: and we can we're trustworthy every week. Like the Niners

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers, these teams are not good. The Niners

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Speaker 1: are not good, man, They're just not They're not. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're seven and four, and I look at their upcoming

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Speaker 1: more games and they're gonna think they're really good. Boy,

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Speaker 1: that's great, right, Like they've beaten the Saints, they beat

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, they lost to Jacksonville, right, they they beat

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Speaker 1: the Rams, Okay, that's great, But they've been hanging their

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Speaker 1: they beat the Giants, they beat the Cardinals twice. They're

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Speaker 3: They're up to eight wins. I mean, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: This is no.

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Speaker 1: It's not beatos on your schedule on circumstance dates that

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Speaker 1: you know folks killed Brady. It's like they went one

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Speaker 1: titles no on the backs of your crappy team. I

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Speaker 1: want people to do the right thing and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers eight and four, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't say everybody stinks.

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Speaker 1: That's how you have to say about the Niners, because

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Speaker 1: they're not. You can sell other teams be it better,

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Speaker 1: but the night has been overrated from the beginning. But

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Speaker 1: the blood of those other teams with better records, you

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Speaker 3: Trying to talk about the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: What's the winning percentage of the team's at three sixty?

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Speaker 1: All those teams stink, right, den, I mean they're they're

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Speaker 1: not exciting. Sean Payton may come and fight me. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. They've won games, laid my bears. They win

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Speaker 1: another one. Come on, The Bears are exciting, man, the

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Speaker 1: Bears every winning. No, No, they're just good and exciting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: exciting nuts doesn't taking years off my life. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: don't tell me. You're pissed off, but you're in first place.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 1: No, you're just inferring based on me, trying to get

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Speaker 1: loud the effect to make it. You're making up. You're

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Speaker 1: used to here. Here's why I know what's happening. You're

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Speaker 1: Bears and understanding that boy, they're terrible. This is not

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Speaker 1: our year. And it's never gonna turn and around. So

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Speaker 1: here you are a very familiar part of the calendar,

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Speaker 1: getting close to Thanksgiving. It's time to really complain about

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Speaker 1: the bear season and what's next. And we fire eber Flus,

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Speaker 1: we fire Lovey. But I mean understand, buddy, you're eight

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Speaker 1: and three. You're in first place the NFC. Nor we're

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Speaker 1: Philly on predet. Come on, I'm all about positivity, the

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Speaker 1: year of living dangerously, the oddity of possession to possession. Look,

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Speaker 1: you had some defensive breakdowns by the Steelers that were

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Speaker 1: absolutely unconscionable. The fact that DJ Moore was what that

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Speaker 1: wide open across the middle you can see Caleb Blake?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Am I seeing this right? Anybody want to give me

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Speaker 4: a second opinion? Is this actually happening downfield? H Now

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Speaker 4: that that you know TJ. Watt play, we'd love to

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Speaker 4: forget that along the way, But you know, when you

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Speaker 4: when you get down to it, yeah, it's exciting. I'm

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Speaker 4: counting all those wins and I'm celebrating every one of them,

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Speaker 4: and that's all we should do every day.

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Speaker 1: But you were upset right away.

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Speaker 3: You don't you default is not I'm upset.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you were tried me nuts and look at that.

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Speaker 1: They're eight and three. They're winning games. They're winning games.

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Speaker 4: I'd like that, but I'd like to have a win

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Speaker 4: that for you know, is a pillar to post kind

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Speaker 1: But he just take a win. Okay, it's the Bear,

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Speaker 1: it's the bar. I take a win, no matter how

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Speaker 1: they want a gift rapid for me. Just take the wins. Man.

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Speaker 1: You're not at the time for style. You don't need style.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, this is.

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Speaker 4: Not college where we got to go to the pollsters

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Speaker 4: and have some knucklehead get in front of the podium.

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Speaker 4: They had to head win count. Yeah, maybe not this week.

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Speaker 4: You know that kind of thing, you know when we

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Speaker 4: talk about Notre Dame in Miami and all those fun

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Speaker 4: little permutations and the voting and we'll get the latest iteration,

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Speaker 4: the next iteration tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm celebrating the bears wins. There's oh no,

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Speaker 3: this is rare.

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Speaker 1: Man, you're defaulting to be in.

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Speaker 3: I'm just angry in general.

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Speaker 1: No, the Bears are better than the not Look the

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Speaker 1: night of the night. They're just not good.

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Speaker 3: Right, they got Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: that's great. Great. Wi McCaffrey is a great player. The

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Speaker 3: The division.

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Speaker 1: You know, they should be behind the Cardinals, but the

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Speaker 1: cardinalswice and the Cardinals are terrible.

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Speaker 3: So let's go, let's go break down their late game performances.

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Speaker 1: Shall and the Niners gona win the next two they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be They're gonna win two more games and have

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Speaker 1: ten wins because I mean, really, it's it's hard to

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Speaker 1: sit here and look at the Niners ago. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: really really good. At least the Bears at least the

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Speaker 1: Steelers are showing. Yeah, we're really not that good. I know,

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Speaker 1: you thought we were really not that good. We're giving

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Speaker 1: away this division to the Baltimore Ravens. Okay, just so

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Speaker 1: you know, that's six and five.

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Speaker 4: I was really sad to not see Aaron Rodgers out there,

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Speaker 4: just as a football fan.

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Speaker 3: And and with the history. Come on, nobody's ever said that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you wanted to see You wanted to see

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Speaker 1: Bears owner Aaron Rodgers out there, so you can beat

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Speaker 1: him and say you no longer own the Bears.

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Speaker 4: No, but like this was exciting because you also beat

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Speaker 4: these Steelers with six starters on your defense missing. They

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Speaker 4: was kind of fun. But Mason Rudolph doesn't bring the

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Speaker 4: same juice again. Take the w but you would have

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Speaker 4: liked your guys chasing Aaron Rodgers around that five feet

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Speaker 4: that he can move.

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Speaker 1: Buddy, why does it matter you won the game? Why

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Speaker 1: are you complaining about winning the game. Everybody's complaining about

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Speaker 1: winning the game, are you? I am from Mason Rudolf.

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Speaker 1: I am talking from holy bully pulpit of a Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports radio host. As a guy that watches a lot

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Speaker 1: of football, I would rather see Aaron Rodgers in a

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Speaker 1: diminished capacity than Mason Rudolph on the field. Okay, as

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Speaker 1: a Bears fan, bring me whoever and let me attack.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the two Mike Harmon's are getting

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Speaker 1: a little confused that I think you. I think your

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Speaker 3: It did just be there's some things that serve my fan.

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Speaker 4: I've got my uh my subscription. So that's that cuts

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because ever since Benny he has a bedtime.

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Speaker 1: Now. No, now, you got Benny and Bailey. I got

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Speaker 3: Supers stole the King's mask, didn't you.

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Speaker 1: We rescued another multipoo and it came with him.

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Speaker 1: They're dangerous, they're fun. They're just a fun team to watch.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Eagles up twenty one nothing and it's like,

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Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb with a big drop and then doesn't doctor reporters,

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Speaker 4: The pink Himalayan salt when it comes to playing the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: because what's that word? They stink. So it was good

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, nobody wants to play them. The offense is

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Speaker 1: NFL Week twelve. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best

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Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. You Aaron Rodgers. So I watch bad

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Speaker 1: football so you don't have to. And I say this

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Speaker 3: This is true.

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Speaker 1: And nobody knows bad football like mebodyence, you and I

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Speaker 1: both with bad football. Absolutely, you with good football. This

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Speaker 1: They are not rowing the boat. You stop them from

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Speaker 1: toe injury to the list of ailments for him, and

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Speaker 1: suddenly the Ravens look like, hey, they're gonna show up

434
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna run rough shot over this conference and

435
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Speaker 1: Lamar is back. Well, yeah, they got Pittsburgh, they got

436
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati coming up where you know, okay, Cincinnati twice the

437
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Speaker 1: next three weeks. Okay, but Cincinnati puts points on the

438
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Speaker 1: board and Burrow is coming back and it's gonna be

439
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Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult to stay with them. And

440
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Speaker 1: they had a tough time against a Jets defense that

441
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Speaker 1: didn't really have any playmakers that they're starting over on defense.

442
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Speaker 1: Then you have New England and Green Bay near the end,

443
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Speaker 1: you're at Pittsburgh at the end of the season. I

444
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Speaker 1: know that the Ravens where everybody's favorite come from behind

445
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Speaker 1: super Bowl team, But after yesterday, I don't know, man,

446
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Speaker 1: because Lamar Jackson just did not I mean, he looked

447
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Speaker 1: like he was fifty percent of the quarterback that he

448
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Speaker 1: normally was still enough to beat the Jets because you

449
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Speaker 1: know Jets, but he really was incredibly diminished.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we talked about what the defense has

451
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Speaker 4: been better, but as we talked about with Jason locking

452
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Speaker 4: for earlier in the show, he's out there in Baltimore

453
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Speaker 4: watching every snap. So you don't have to because it's

454
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Speaker 4: it's not a pretty it's not a pretty watch. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you have four games since he's returned. Lamar Jackson the

456
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Speaker 4: high of his past yards two four. Okay, that was

457
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Speaker 4: a four touchdown game against Miami, but that was also

458
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Speaker 4: a game where at that point we thought everybody was

459
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Speaker 4: being fired, traded or quitting. Instead, they've now rallied a bit. Minnesota,

460
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Speaker 4: they're not good Cleveland. Well, there you have.

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Speaker 1: It.

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Speaker 4: Took a Mark Andrews parrouette and a sprint to daylight

463
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Speaker 4: out of play that Lamar Jackson would normally take to

464
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Speaker 4: win that game twenty three to sixteen, and then you

465
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Speaker 4: got this game against the Jets. Since returning, he's got

466
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Speaker 4: a total of twenty five carries for a total of

467
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Speaker 4: what is it about fifty fifty eight seventy two yards.

468
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Speaker 4: That's not good because normally you were getting sixty yards

469
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Speaker 4: a game, and that's sprint out to daylight that you

470
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Speaker 4: had to be keep linebackers honest and create some space

471
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Speaker 4: over the middle for likely or for Andrews that's not

472
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Speaker 4: there right now. And while he's not taking a bunch

473
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Speaker 4: of sacks getting rid of the ball, the threat of

474
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Speaker 4: him getting to the edge and creating chaos downfield or

475
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Speaker 4: with his legs is just not there. And Derrick Henry

476
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Speaker 4: had had a good game this week.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Again, it's all relative at this point because he's a

479
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Speaker 4: guy you can't trust in short yarded situations. You get

480
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Speaker 4: no thrust up front. So going forward, Yeah, the schedule

481
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Speaker 4: has some pluses on it, you know, four division games

482
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Speaker 4: against suspect opponents, but Cincinnati will put points up on him, right,

483
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Speaker 4: it's a it's.

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Speaker 1: A j Burrow now Cincinnati. This is not Cincinnati with

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 4: By the way, that was that was a great press

487
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Speaker 4: conference from Joe Flacco though, I give him a lot

488
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Speaker 4: of credit, uh, talking about the time he's had and

489
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Speaker 4: the opportunity and everything else. But Bengals will be without

490
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Speaker 4: t Higgins concussion. That was a scary moment, uh in

491
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Speaker 4: Sunday's game. Hopefully he's back on the field and he's right.

492
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Speaker 4: Uh soon they get Jamar Chase back off his one

493
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Speaker 4: game suspension. He issued the lengthy apology uh in letter

494
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Speaker 4: form that we got. So you know, offensively there there's

495
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Speaker 4: still some cogs, right, Chase Brown's been better all of

496
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Speaker 4: those things. So for Baltimore, a very stiff test on

497
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Speaker 4: a short week, but a compromise, Lamar Jackson leads me

498
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Speaker 4: to believe, Yeah, they'll win the division, so you'll cash

499
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Speaker 4: that ticket.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then if you're you're drawn dead. If you got

502
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Speaker 3: him for anything further, Yeah.

503
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Speaker 1: Because he's got to keep playing. So it's not like

504
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Speaker 1: he's he's gonna sit back out. It's just gonna be

505
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna be one of those years where he's

506
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Speaker 1: always gonna be injured the rest of the way, and

507
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lesser version of Lamar Jackson than

508
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Speaker 1: you normally do because he's.

509
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Speaker 3: Been shut out back to back wins.

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Speaker 1: Man. I mean, it's it's amazing. It's amazing, And I'm

511
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Speaker 1: not watching the Jets defense do anything crazy. It's not

512
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Speaker 1: like they went nuts yet to go wow, here they

513
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Speaker 1: are with these exotic blitz packages and no, you see

514
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Speaker 1: they still struggled because he realized all I gonna do

515
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Speaker 1: is throw the ball up and they're gonna panic and

516
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Speaker 1: commit a pass interference penalty.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and that was really what it was, because the

519
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Speaker 1: Jets had this game right first, first possession of second half,

520
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are looking at the three and out. It's

521
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Speaker 1: like third and seventeen and Jackson gets chased out of

522
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Speaker 1: the pocket and he just chucks it up deep to

523
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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and it's an incomplete pass. There's no shot,

524
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Speaker 1: this passes any chance of being completed. But one of

525
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Speaker 1: the Jets, young Dbs, who's in there now because you

526
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Speaker 1: know sars Gardner is no longer on the team, commits

527
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Speaker 1: a bad pass interference penalty because he panics, and it's

528
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Speaker 1: a thirty four yard penalty, and that just put breathed

529
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Speaker 1: all kinds of life into the Ravens. They go down

530
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Speaker 1: and they score to take the lead, and then they

531
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Speaker 1: don't look back, even though they're not playing that great.

532
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Speaker 1: The Jets have a couple of turnovers, they have another

533
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Speaker 1: pass interference penalty there the Jet puts them on the

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Speaker 1: goal line, right. So, I mean, that's really what the

535
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Speaker 1: Ravens needed to win this game. That mean, they had

536
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Speaker 1: a D plus game yesterday and it was it was terrible.

537
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Speaker 1: It was it was absolutely this game was awful. It

538
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Speaker 1: was worse to watch the Monday night game. And that's

539
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Speaker 1: telling you something, man. I mean, it was worse to

540
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Speaker 1: watch than that. And but that's that's kind of how

541
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Speaker 1: it is and how it's gonna be for the Ravens

542
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Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson. He's not gonna be healthy the rest

543
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Speaker 1: of this year, and you're gonna get a diminished version

544
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Speaker 1: of him the rest of the way. This this AFC North,

545
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Speaker 1: I look at it and go, we have to take

546
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Speaker 1: a team out of here for the playoffs. Really, we

547
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Speaker 1: can't just say, you know what, listen, we got we

548
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Speaker 1: got some really good teams in the AFC West. We

549
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Speaker 1: want to take all three of these teams. Can we

550
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Speaker 1: can we do that? Not take a team from the

551
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Speaker 1: AFC North, because man, I mean, these these teams are

552
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: all these teams are all terrible. They all stink. I

553
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Speaker 1: mean really, I'm sure, and can't in Cincinnati where the

554
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Speaker 1: season's over. There, go we got Burrow back. We can

555
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Speaker 1: run the table and finish nine to eight. Why not?

556
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Speaker 1: We got Joe Burrow. That's how bad the division is.

557
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Speaker 1: You're thinking, oh, we can run the table. We have

558
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Speaker 1: the Ravens twice even though we're three games back, and

559
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Speaker 1: then we could win these two games. I mean, that's

560
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Speaker 1: how bad the division.

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Speaker 4: This is, well, but you still until you abolish divisions

562
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Speaker 4: and lump it all together and change up the formula.

563
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Speaker 4: Someone emerges as the tallest, strongest, best, because you know,

564
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Speaker 4: this is where we get to use the term best

565
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Speaker 4: and really not want to.

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Speaker 3: You know, it.

567
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Speaker 4: Feels uncomfortable and dirty to say the best in the

568
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Speaker 4: division because they will represent and look, might might this

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Speaker 4: just be a lingering thing that Lamar can work out of.

570
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Speaker 4: I don't know, but where we sit right now, it's

571
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Speaker 4: it's a tough watch compared to what we've seen, you know,

572
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: all these MVP races and chases through the years. I mean,

573
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 4: whatever we want to say about Buffalo and Josh Allen,

574
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Speaker 4: he doesn't look any of the worse for wear, right,

575
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Speaker 4: He's still doing his thing. You just got a lot

576
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Speaker 4: of issues around him. For Lamar, it's it's just one

577
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Speaker 4: of those Okay, we need to just put you and

578
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: let you get some rest here. You go watch some

579
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: movies and get ready for better days. But he's got

580
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Speaker 4: six weeks to try to slog through. Hopefully he comes

581
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Speaker 4: out not much worse for the wear, but they really

582
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 4: need to draw something up and get back on the

583
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Speaker 4: back on the whiteboard to come up with something creative

584
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Speaker 4: to maximize what he's able to do physically at this point,

585
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Speaker 4: because your entire offense has changed from what you've seen

586
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Speaker 4: from the last four years.

587
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but look at it this way they play Thursday

588
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Speaker 1: this week, they played, yes, every night, Like, what are

589
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: you going to get? Like?

590
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Speaker 4: Is he Fortunately the Bengals stink defensively Hendrick? That's true,

591
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 4: but wait, wait, wait, the Jets stink defensively to the

592
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 4: Jets are The Jets are awful on defense. Their best

593
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: two players aren't different. But people told me they were

594
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Speaker 4: a top five defense coming into.

595
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Speaker 1: Who told you that? That was when I saw that?

596
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: When I saw that the Jets broke up a top

597
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: five defense, I'm like, when four years ago they broke up.

598
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Speaker 3: A tough Mike? Was that the same guy who had

599
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: them in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Sure? I was? That was two two weeks ago. Yes,

601
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Speaker 1: okay two years ago. No, I did not, no, no, no,

602
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: two years ago it was did not say that, but

603
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Speaker 1: we were But what are you going to get when

604
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Speaker 1: when when Thursday night, it's a short week turning around,

605
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Speaker 1: Like I got a feeling this Thursday night that game

606
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Speaker 1: is going to be We talked about the ugly trend

607
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: of games we're having. You have Burrow back after a

608
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Speaker 1: long layoff, and Lamar Jackson banged up, trying to come

609
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Speaker 1: back on a short week. Oh man, I really hope

610
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Speaker 1: Chiefs Cowboys is good.

611
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Speaker 4: Fifty one and a half is the total for Cinzi

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore?

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Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah?

614
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Speaker 4: Fifty two and a half Kansas City and Dallas, and

615
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Speaker 4: then you get the early start the Green Bay and

616
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Speaker 4: Detroit game. I was still waiting to see what Josh

617
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Speaker 4: Jake has been able to do. I able to be

618
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Speaker 4: but he had a nice game from Emmanuel Wilson, who

619
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Speaker 4: was one of our ninja's in Week twelve.

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Speaker 1: Exit ob out a Fresca Exit swollen down The Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon time how

622
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Speaker 1: to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.

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Speaker 1: So someone who's been called the Joe Burrow of Fox

624
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. He likes to tool around with his batmobile too,

625
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Speaker 1: except it's a toy. It's Steve Desager.

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Speaker 5: And my toe hurts.

627
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Speaker 3: Is it the gout?

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Speaker 1: Really? It's really bad, Telly Meets.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned the Jed stefense. They still only have one

630
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Speaker 5: takeaway the entire seats. That's impressive. That's astounding. In eleven

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Speaker 5: games to start a season. They are the worst in

632
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Speaker 5: the NFL and turnover margin at minus thirteen. You know

633
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Speaker 5: who's the absolute best in the NFL this year and

634
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Speaker 5: turnover margin bears those Chicago Bears, even after.

635
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Speaker 1: Salt would get turnovers.

636
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Speaker 5: Still at a plus sixteen. Chicago forty nine Ers beat

637
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Speaker 5: the Panthers twenty to nine. Panthers fall to six and six.

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Speaker 5: You know they would have been alone and first in

639
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Speaker 5: their division with a win. Tonight This Sunday, Carolina will

640
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Speaker 5: host the Rams, the number one team in the NFC

641
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: Niners in Conference eight and two eight and four overall.

642
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: Brock Party in early touchdown pass then three interceptions in

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Speaker 5: the first half. San Francisco After this evening plays at Cleveland,

644
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Speaker 5: then a bye week, then against Tennessee. Brown's quarterback Dylan

645
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: Gabriel was cleared to play, but Shdur Sanders will start

646
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Speaker 5: again Sunday against the forty nine Ers. Gabriel is out

647
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Speaker 5: of concussion protocol. The Vikings place quarterback JJ McCarthy in

648
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Speaker 5: concussion protocol. Bucks quarterback Baker Mayfield has a sprain left shoulder,

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Speaker 5: but it's called a low grade sprain with no long

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Speaker 5: term concerns. Teddy brig Water would start this Sunday for

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay against the Cardinals if Mayfield can't play. The

652
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Speaker 5: New York Giants fired defensive coordinator Shane Bowen. The Raiders

653
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Speaker 5: promoted Greg Oldson to interim offensive coordinator after firing Chip

654
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Speaker 5: Kelly on Sunday night. The late NBA game is midway

655
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Speaker 5: through overtime at Sacramento, Kings and Timberwolves tied at one

656
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Speaker 5: oh seven four Minnesota Anthony edwards forty one points in

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Speaker 5: under forty one minutes on the court. Detroit won its

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Speaker 5: thirteenth straight game, a win at Indiana. Toronto won its

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Speaker 5: eighth game in a row, a win over Cleveland. Miami

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Speaker 5: won its fifth straight edging Dallas one oh six one

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Speaker 5: oh two, twenty four points for heat guard Tyler Hero

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Speaker 5: in his season debut after ankle surgery two months ago.

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Speaker 5: The New York Knicks got thirty seven points from Carl

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Speaker 5: Anthony Towns in a victory at Brooklyn. Denver got sixteen

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Speaker 5: assists from Nicola jokicchen a win at Memphis. Portland and

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Speaker 5: Houston each one on the road home victories for Golden

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Speaker 5: State and New Orleans. That Golden State win was one

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Speaker 5: thirty four one seventeen against Utah, Steph Curry thirty one points.

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Speaker 5: Draymond Green of the Warriors was out tonight with a

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Speaker 5: spring foot. Jonathan Comingo of Golden State still out with

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Speaker 5: a bad knee. As for the New Orleans win, it

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Speaker 5: was against Chicago one forty three to one thirties, Ion

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Speaker 5: Williamson twenty nine points Pelicans and a nine game losing streak.

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Speaker 5: A lot of college hoops in Vegas, including tonight number

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Speaker 5: seven Michigan beating San Diego State ninety four to fifty four.

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Speaker 5: Seaton Haul upset Number twenty three NC State Gonzaga over

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Speaker 5: Alabama tonight, Iowa State beat Saint John's eighty three eighty two,

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Speaker 5: and number three Houston in overtime defeated Syracuse seventy eight

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Speaker 5: to seventy four. Well Syracuse athletic department used to games

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Speaker 5: in the seventies. Purdue, It's still not Arizona is up

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Speaker 5: to number two in the new rankings. By the way,

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Speaker 5: Number twenty one Auburn beat Oregon eighty four to seventy three.

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Speaker 5: Oregon football was up to number five in the new polls.

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Speaker 5: For what it's worth, The new Playoff Committee rankings come

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Speaker 5: out on two Tuesday. This Saturday, on Fox TV number

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Speaker 5: one Ohio State at number fifteen Michigan. The Buck guys

687
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Speaker 5: have lost four straight to Michigan. College football selection Sunday

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Speaker 5: is December seventh, a week from Sunday. The regular season

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Speaker 5: ends for most teams this Saturday. In the NHL, Florida

690
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Speaker 5: eight three winners at Nashville, Utah five to one over Vegas.

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Speaker 5: Colorado Rockies interim manager Warren Schaefer will return next year.

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Speaker 5: He had been promoted from third base coach back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith Show with My

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Speaker 1: best friend Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next. What was gonna happen after the big

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders debut a day ago by the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: Was he going to get to play again? We have

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Speaker 1: a decision on that. That's coming up next. Right here,

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Speaker 1: we break it down, Jason to Mike.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: More from under Night Football coming up in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: But the big drama of today in the NFL has

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Speaker 1: already been solved.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: People. People woke up this morning going, if Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: doesn't get another gig, another chance to start a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I will tear this city apart.

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: How you you start a radio or TV show and

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Speaker 4: just say I want to go on three or four

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Speaker 4: hours early before there's an announcement.

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Speaker 3: What don's he's supposed to speak? Get me out before then?

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna know? Uh? And people were ready

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Speaker 1: to be upset. He deserves it like he threw for

718
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Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty yards and five touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I answered, Harry, how dare you the Jets?

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefane, No Jets two seventy five, two touchdowns and

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Speaker 1: a pick double? Oh no, No, I can't say a

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Speaker 1: pick because it Jets.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't know.

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Speaker 1: They touchdowns. That's it. Two touchdowns and a couple of

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Speaker 1: dropped interceptions. That's would be a couple of drop to this.

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Speaker 1: That would be the Chets. Uh No, no, we don't.

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Speaker 1: We don't have a interception.

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Speaker 3: No, don't have one.

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Speaker 1: We might be that we might We could finish this

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Speaker 1: year the only team in the NFL to not have

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Speaker 1: it never happened.

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Speaker 3: You hang a banner for that. That's really almost like

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Speaker 3: you're trying at some point.

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Speaker 1: Dude, it's really hard to do to not have one

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Speaker 1: understand not even like a hailman at the.

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Speaker 4: End of like week eighteen, if someone throws a pick

737
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Speaker 4: to your guy, they have to drop it on purpose.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, and Aaron Glenn's a defensive coordinator, turn

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Speaker 1: head coach. We don't have one pick, we don't have

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Speaker 1: one one interception, realm.

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Speaker 3: But remember that time you thought he was the guy that.

742
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of hope about culture attitude.

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Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I'm stuck. What does it matter? It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what even if we got a new head coach

745
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: and look at the quarterback wrong anyway, what does it matter.

746
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza could turn into Marrio Mendoza if if we

747
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Speaker 1: get him, and dude, that would make him an average

748
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Speaker 1: or and he could get he could go to another

749
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Speaker 1: team and he'd be Fernando Valenzuela the beginning his rookie year, fantastic,

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Speaker 1: we go everywhere, that's whatever the Jets do it. Fernando

751
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Speaker 1: was great, though, Fernanda was awesome, but Shador Sanders will

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Speaker 1: start again for the Browns this week, even though Dylan

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Speaker 1: Gabriel has cleared concussion protocol. And you could tell Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski making this announcement today like they were pulling teeth

755
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Speaker 1: to get him to say yes, Shador Sanders will start

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Speaker 1: again because you could just tell he wants nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with him. He wants nothing to do with him

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Speaker 1: as a Browns quarterback. But we drafted him. He's a

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Speaker 1: fan favorite, people love him on TV. Okay, but to

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Speaker 1: be honest, listen, we told you exactly how his game

761
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: was gonna go, and now we'll tell you exactly what

762
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: the what the break the fault of this is. We

763
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: told you on Friday, he's gonna make some good play.

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Speaker 1: He will make three or four really good individual plays

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Speaker 1: that will be enough to win this game because it's

766
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Speaker 1: the Raiders, because the Raiders stink and the Browns defense

767
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: is foaming at the mouth to get it. Geno Smith,

768
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Speaker 1: right at the end of the year, we're to look

769
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: back and the Browns are gonna go. Man, have we

770
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: just gotten anybody to move the football a little bit?

771
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Speaker 1: We could have won the division because the division stinks,

772
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Speaker 1: and we decided for whatever reason we're gonna tank for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, but the defense is that good, And

774
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what Shador Sanders did. He made a couple

775
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Speaker 1: of big plays and they won, right, that's all. He

776
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: wasn't unbelievable, He didn't go he was he was okay

777
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and okay at times.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the one big throw right rollout to his right,

779
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: big arm, big play. Unfortunately, dude falls short of the

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Speaker 4: goal line, so you don't get the touchdown to cap

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Speaker 4: it off. So for fantasy purposes, it was a nice play,

782
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Speaker 4: but not a huge play.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you were starting Shador Sanders in fantasy, you're

784
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Speaker 1: in a lot, You're your team is in a lot more.

785
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Speaker 4: Time, but it becomes the active desperation dollar daily fantasy

786
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Speaker 4: kind of play again, given the uh the opponent on

787
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: the other side wishing, wanting, hoping that you find and

788
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: catch the.

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Speaker 3: Lightning in the ball.

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Speaker 4: The other which was a big touchdown play, which was

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Speaker 4: sixty six yard yards, was a quick screen pass, you know,

792
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: a little flare out to the running back that he

793
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 4: did all the work, but you get the passing yards,

794
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: so you back those out of the two oh nine,

795
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: those two plays account for what was it about one

796
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one hundred and eighteen to those yards.

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Speaker 3: I mean they don't count just the same. But he

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Speaker 3: was eleven of twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was gonna make three or four plays that

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00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: were gonna be enough because again, because it's the Raiders,

801
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what happened. But he's given a little

802
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Speaker 1: bit of energy and excitement to Cleveland, give an excitement

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Speaker 1: to the fan base, excitement of the team because he's

804
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Speaker 1: a better downfield patch than Dylan Gabriel, who was drafted

805
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Speaker 1: in the third round. I know the other teams even

806
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: had him on their draft board and they took him

807
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Speaker 1: in the third round. But what's going on here is

808
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Speaker 1: absolutely what it should be. Nothing bad was done. The

809
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: right decision was made. Look, I'd love to be able

810
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Speaker 1: to tell you this was done wrong, this was here,

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Speaker 1: but the right decision was made. Shador Sanders won the

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Speaker 1: game Sunday. There's some excitement. He deserves to get the

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Speaker 1: start this week against the four forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I didn't need to earn no more, no less.

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Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't earn the right to be the

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Speaker 1: quarterback the rest of the season. He didn't the right

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Speaker 1: to be named the starter for the next month. He

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: earned you know what, he played well enough, you're gonna

819
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Speaker 1: start again against the forty nine ers, and depending on

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00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: the result, you will start again. Right, you would need

821
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: to be really, really bad to the tune of, you know,

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Speaker 1: no touchdowns, four picks and we lose thirty eight to

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Speaker 1: nine to not get another start after playing well against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. But that but this is exactly how it

825
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: should be handled. He played well enough to get the

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Speaker 1: start this weekast the forty nine ers, and let's deal

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Speaker 1: with it that way. Let's go one week at a time.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, when you see how he's responding and saying

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Speaker 1: things like I'm what they've been missing the whole time,

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Speaker 1: I get why Kevin Stefanski wants to slow play it.

831
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Speaker 1: Not gonna give him stuff yet, especially when he's talking

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Speaker 1: like this after one game where it's like, okay, it

833
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: was the Raiders. I get you're excited all of that,

834
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: but we're gonna slow play it. Everything has done the

835
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: right way. He has earned the right for another start.

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Speaker 1: He's not earned anything more than that, but he's earned it,

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Speaker 1: and so yes, you start him this week, and you

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Speaker 1: see how it goes the rest of the way.

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Speaker 4: You got a w you actually had at least some

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00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 4: verticality to it. Again, muted only a couple of big plays,

841
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: but you're at least challenging defenses. Now did you get

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 4: the results, Judy, And you know the Tillman and the

843
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: other receivers downfield that you thought no, I mean, Fannin

844
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: ends up still being your leader with four receptions, just

845
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 4: like he was with Dylan Gabriel. But your average air

846
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: yards per attempt is three yards better. Right, you're talking

847
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Speaker 4: top ten in terms of eight point four is where

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Speaker 4: Shador ranks limited time obviously, but he doesn't show a

849
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Speaker 4: conscience in terms of hey, I'm checking down. No, he's

850
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: gonna take and try for the explosives. Eventually that comes

851
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: back to bite you in the ass, and the turnovers

852
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: will be there. But it's the moment wasn't too big.

853
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: He went out and played well enough to at least

854
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: earn another look. See whether Stefanski wants it, whether the

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: front office wants it, doesn't matter. You got to give

856
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 4: yourself at least a puncher's chance downfield and against San

857
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 4: Francisco at home another opportunity to do so.

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Speaker 1: hour from now. Coming up next, two big collapses and

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Speaker 1: two coaches paid for it with their jobs.