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Speaker 2: Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura was.

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Speaker 3: So live on a Tuesday edition to clear the Brad's daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely Bo.

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Speaker 4: He is the great z.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me, let me hello.

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Speaker 4: Away.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that we are currently in the National

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Speaker 3: Football League with what four weeks ago, four games left

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Speaker 3: for everybody?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that we have officially seen a changing

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Speaker 3: of the guard in this sport? And I ask you

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Speaker 3: that with this as the caveat to it, the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs are not going to make the postseason. The

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens certainly are not Super Bowl contenders and may

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Speaker 3: or may not make the postseason. The only path is

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Speaker 3: to win the division. I hesitate to put the Bengals

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Speaker 3: in there, but I think if you go back to

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season, most people thought that they

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Speaker 3: would be in the mix, and they've played in a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl in recent years, and they are a lost

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Speaker 3: season for them. You watch the Philadelphia Eagles last night

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Speaker 3: and all the turnovers that they have. Now, they just

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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl last year, and so they've been

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Speaker 3: in the mix. I mean, these guys have been in

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Speaker 3: the mix.

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Speaker 5: They've been at three times in seventeen and one at twice.

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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, they've really been one of the model franchises.

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Speaker 3: They don't look all the way right, but especially in

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Speaker 3: the AFC, it feels like and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: the Bills don't feel like Super Bowl contenders to me either.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out this weekend they play New England. You'll

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Speaker 3: have a little bit of a better shot at it.

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Speaker 3: But I do kind of wonder if we're in the

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Speaker 3: middle of it, and I don't know if it's permanent,

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Speaker 3: like if it means cooked or if we're into second

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Speaker 3: incarnations of teams or what they're on their circumstances.

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Speaker 5: They would be on their like third or fourth incarnation

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Speaker 5: for sure, Yeah, right, I don't know. I mean I

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Speaker 5: think yes in the AFC, because it's been the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: have been in the AFC Championship Game every year, Yes,

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Speaker 5: every year, every year. Guy's never had a season that

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Speaker 5: hasn't ended either with a Super Bowl championship, a Super

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 5: Yep, So yeah, that is now. If it happens again

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Speaker 5: next year, then I would say, yeah, it's a change

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Speaker 5: of gard. They come back next year and the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: are you know, in the playoffs and all of those things,

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Speaker 5: and I would say no. But yeah, it also feels

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Speaker 5: like Baltimore's had a lot of injuries. They're struggling Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: It's hard because they haven't been consistently good, so I

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Speaker 5: wouldn't say them, But it's basically been the last few

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Speaker 5: years it's been KC versus Baltimore or KC versus Buffalo, Right,

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Speaker 5: are those any who else?

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Speaker 3: And then the couple of times one time when they

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Speaker 3: lost it, one time they got there. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 3: interesting on the Mahome side of it with I mean,

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Speaker 3: but it's been a little bit of a downward cycle

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Speaker 3: to do something relatively soon that to my recollection, Brady's

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Speaker 3: in December. Yeah, which when healthy, Brady never played a

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Speaker 3: meaningless game in December. I don't think in my head

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Speaker 3: they never missed the postseason other than the year that

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Speaker 3: that year of memory serves, or at least ten with

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Speaker 3: They won it the one year and the next year

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Speaker 5: So Brady, once he got rolling, he got hurt in

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Speaker 5: he missed the playoffs. He won the Super Bowl in one,

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Speaker 5: they did not make the playoffs the very next year

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Speaker 5: He made the playoffs. So three oh four, oh five,

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Speaker 5: sixteen seventeen, when the Super Bowl, eighteen nineteen, when the

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Speaker 3: I still think in O two they played meaningful games

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Speaker 3: though because they were nine.

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Speaker 5: And se sure they played beautiful games.

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Speaker 3: They just every game was in the mix. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that's what he's I mean, that's something that the Chiefs incredible.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the AFC Championship game in

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Speaker 5: Chiefs Bills, Chiefs Bengals, Chiefs Bengals, Chiefs Ravens, Chiefs Bills.

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Speaker 5: Those are the games. So Buffalo, you know, you have

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Speaker 5: to think if you're the Bills, right, your nemesis is

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Speaker 5: out KC. And then the other team that's given you

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Speaker 5: that's represented the conference or been in the Comerence Final,

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati is out. So Baltimore might not be out, they

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Speaker 4: Wounded right now.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Lamar is clearly not okay. This has to be

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Speaker 5: the Bills year but I don't know that the Bills

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Speaker 5: I think the playoffs this year actually gonna be cool.

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you I think that the NFC playoffs

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Speaker 5: to understand this league is very strange, Like Washington is

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Speaker 5: in the NFC CHAMPIONIGPU les year with Jane Dane, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this is a team that's gonna go yep, We're gonna

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Speaker 5: go get Deebo Samuel this now he's been banged up.

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Speaker 5: But they haven't been good at all.

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Speaker 3: Non, No, far from it. Yeah, I mean there are

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Speaker 3: I just as I was looking at it, I know

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Speaker 3: But it's as wide open as I can recall in December,

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Speaker 3: since I've been really paying close attention to league going back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've obviously been fantasy and I've been doing

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Speaker 3: doing this show with you since eighteen and really the

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Speaker 3: I've really followed the league very closely. I feel like

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Speaker 3: you could if I were to say to you, in

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Speaker 3: most of those years, you can either have the Patriots,

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Speaker 3: you can have the Chiefs, the forty nine ers, the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: or the field. You would take those teams like you

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Speaker 3: would be silly to ever go against some homes in

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Speaker 3: the post season. I used that was a bit for

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Speaker 3: seven years, like don't ever bet against mahomes. Can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Don't do it?

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Speaker 3: Well, do it? They're cooked, they really are. And it's

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Speaker 3: and and Baltimore too, And so I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think you're going to have a postseason where truly

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Speaker 3: anything can happen. You're right, there is a sense I

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Speaker 3: think a little bit like Buffalo this year. And I'll

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Speaker 3: just do a cross sports analogy real briefly, if you'll

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Speaker 3: permit it. It reminds me a little bit of where

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Speaker 3: the Cavaliers are this year in the East. With all

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Speaker 3: of the injuries, that Boston injuries and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 3: I know the Cavs are off to a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a rough start, but it's all about supposedseason for them. Like,

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Speaker 3: if they don't win the East this year, I don't

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Speaker 3: know when you do it. Yeah, now's the time. And

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Speaker 3: I think that with Buffalo, like this is the year

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Speaker 3: for Buffalo to represent the AFC and the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They've been building towards this. They probably have the best

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Speaker 3: don't know if he'll win MVP with Drake May and

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Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, but he's probably the most valuable in terms

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Speaker 3: of if you took him off, what is left. It's like,

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Speaker 3: right now you got to go. If you're Buffalo, you

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Speaker 5: You got to be able to prove those Patriots, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: prove he'd be the Patriots who beat you the last

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Speaker 5: time that those two teams met, right, you know. And

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Speaker 5: Buffalo has been a bad road team this year, three

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Speaker 5: right now. It's far fetched for them to get their

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Speaker 3: They could get it within a game in New England

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Speaker 3: if they win this weekend.

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Speaker 3: They're not going they won't be the one seed. They

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Speaker 5: Bill Houston is tough right now.

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Speaker 3: There, they're Bills at home at Ravens, at Jets, Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: I do not see New England losing two of those four. No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's but that that's by the way,

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence maybe had one of the best games he's

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Speaker 3: ever played this past weekend. Houston looks really good, kind

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Speaker 3: of out of nowhere. They flipped at Their defense has

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Speaker 3: been good all year really, but they're starting to hum

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Speaker 3: now they're getting healthy. It's crazy that they just and

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Speaker 3: I love Nick Chubb, but they did not add a

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Speaker 3: But yeah, they're Marks.

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Speaker 5: Are starting to play well, They're they're all.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just wide open. It's just completely wide open

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Speaker 3: this year, especially in the AFC. I think it's really fun.

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Speaker 5: The NFC is the playoffs are going to be nuts.

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Speaker 3: That the NFC is going to be loaded. All three

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Speaker 3: of those West teams can win the Super Bowl. The

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Speaker 3: Packers can win the Super Bowl. The Lions, if they

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Speaker 3: get in, can win it. I'm not ready to do

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Speaker 3: Bears yet that they can. And Philly, like, Philly's got

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Speaker 3: a little bit of the Kansas City thing and it's

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Speaker 3: just like we've seen him do it. And Lane Johnson

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Speaker 3: is coming back and that changes everything that they do.

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Speaker 5: Like the Bucks have a negative point differential by twenty

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Speaker 5: six for the season.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they've been bad.

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Speaker 5: The Lions are plus ninety lines have the second best

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Speaker 5: differential in the NFC, and they're out if it starts today.

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Speaker 3: I think third. But your point is valid, Oh.

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Speaker 5: Third, Yeah, you're right. Rams and Seahawks. Seahawks are one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's tough. I'm excited Philip Rivers. I don't

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Speaker 3: You see some of the notes in this So Rivers

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Speaker 3: him and Steike and spoke weakly about it discussing plays

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Speaker 3: From JJ Watt, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, fifth quarterback in NFL history started game age forty

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Speaker 5: don't think I'm sure. I don't think that I can

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Speaker 3: Is Brady? Yeah, Brady's obvious?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, far I think.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm pulling it up right now.

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Speaker 3: Brady is yes, what about de Burgh? Steve de Berg?

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Speaker 4: Steve de Berg is what? Yeah, yeah, that's what Steve

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Speaker 5: Lot of them really old.

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Speaker 3: All in our lifetime, in our lifetime? Uh plunket No, No.

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Speaker 5: Did Archie Archie Manning play for forever?

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Speaker 4: Not that long all our lifetime?

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Speaker 7: Move the time frame up, far of I said, no,

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Speaker 7: Brady's a burg.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be a backup. Yes, the starter game

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Speaker 3: Guess yes, good job at of you. That's number three,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, give me like a it's like a minor hint,

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Speaker 3: Would it be too obvious if you said where you

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Speaker 4: No? I probably should, but I don't, Okay, AFC.

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Speaker 5: Did Marino hang on long?

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Speaker 3: Enough, not that long. I don't think he was done

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Speaker 8: Three, eighties and nineties, Steve.

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Speaker 3: Grogan, that's a decent guess at it? Nope, Ken Anderson,

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Speaker 4: No, good guess though.

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Speaker 3: He won an MVP at like thirty eight. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 5: Hold on, give me all right, see give me, give me,

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Speaker 5: give me all right.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Let's play this. Play the game for a second. Okay,

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Speaker 4: For, stand by. It's a tremendous question.

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Speaker 3: And somehow played at forty forty four, So we didn't

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Speaker 3: Would that be a USFL guy Warren Moon.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 3: Warren Moon was still slinging it at forty four, and

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Speaker 4: Some Vikings ninety four to ninety six, Seahawks ninety seven

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Speaker 4: Actually started his career in seventy eight with the Edmonton Eskimo.

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Speaker 5: name how many of those teams that he played for

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Speaker 3: He Testaverdi, Bucks, Jets, Ravens, Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: How many did he play for?

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Speaker 5: He played for eight, started for seven.

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Speaker 3: Did he play for Miami Dolphins?

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Speaker 5: My mass run. He played for seven and started for six.

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Speaker 3: Did he play for Miami he did not?

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and seven, two thousand and seven, he's run.

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Speaker 5: He started six games. John Fox was the head coach.

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Speaker 5: They went seven and nine that year. Wow, starting quarterback

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Speaker 5: Vinnie played six games, David Carr played started four games

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Speaker 5: Steve Smith was a leading receiver at over a thousand

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Speaker 3: us that each week he takes another step and gets

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Speaker 3: better and more comfortable and fixes something that maybe is

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Speaker 3: a problem from the previous week. Are you seeing that

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Speaker 3: in film as well?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 10: I would say that's pretty fair if you kind of

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Speaker 10: throw away the Baltimore helter skelter second half appearance. I

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Speaker 10: think you look at what he struggle with, maybe in

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Speaker 10: in Vegas, and I think some of it was sitting

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Speaker 10: in the pocket, trusting protections, stepping up, sliding, doing some

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Speaker 10: of the mechanics stuff, keeping away from drifting. And then

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Speaker 10: I thought he got better at that, he got more trusting.

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Speaker 10: In the San Francisco game, thought he really started to

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Speaker 10: put together how to, like, Okay, hit the.

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Speaker 3: Top of my job.

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Speaker 10: Let's glide forward instead of fighting the propensity to slide

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Speaker 10: into trouble or create my own pressure Now, I don't

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Speaker 10: think in the San Francisco game he did a very

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Speaker 10: good job of seeing and trusting what his eyes were

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Speaker 10: showing him and ripping the throws. But I think we

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Speaker 10: can all agree that that moved in a really good

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Speaker 10: direction in the Tennessee game, where it started to feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 10: you know, if you layer in all the things that

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Speaker 10: you know, the stigmas, I guess that you would carry

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Speaker 10: of concerns for why this might not work for him,

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Speaker 10: maybe initially right, maybe he needs more time, etc. Et cetera.

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Speaker 10: I think you've seen the steps you want to see

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Speaker 10: across three starts where you know it starts out where

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Speaker 10: you're bringing in some of the things about the game

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Speaker 10: moving really quickly, so you revert to some of your

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Speaker 10: habits where we eliminate some of those habits. Then it's

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Speaker 10: about coverage being a little different than what you've seen.

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Speaker 10: So maybe we're afraid against the forty nine ers to

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Speaker 10: rip a couple throws that we're there, you're seeing it,

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Speaker 10: you're just not making the connection between the body process

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Speaker 10: and what the brain is seeing. And then that's stepped

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Speaker 10: in a great direction against the Titans. So all of

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Speaker 10: that is extremely, extremely encouraging.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 10: He still has things as any rookie does he needs

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Speaker 10: to work on. Right The time to throw is still

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Speaker 10: the highest in the NFL right now and had one

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Speaker 10: of the higher ones this past week. But some of

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Speaker 10: that will come with just knowing when to give up

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Speaker 10: on a play and knowing sooner than kind of creating

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Speaker 10: trying to create something that's not there. I think you'll

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Speaker 10: just get a a chance. You never want to say

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Speaker 10: anything's a guarantee, but you can start if you look

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Speaker 10: at some of the progress that's been made so far,

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Speaker 10: and he's sitting in the film room, him and Musgrave

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Speaker 10: and the other offensive coaches are talking about these little elements.

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Speaker 10: If he's aware of it, then he's starting to start

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Speaker 10: to get better. I actually thought he did a nice

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Speaker 10: job in the Tennessee game of hey Man one two's

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Speaker 10: not there. Let's get this thing into the back in

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Speaker 10: the flat and to let him create some opportunity. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: I think if you're a person who wants to see

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Speaker 10: the linear progression, you need to see it. What is

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Speaker 10: tangible about it. The film shows that this is the

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Speaker 10: week that he was able to process some things out

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Speaker 10: in the right way, step up in the pocket, glide

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Speaker 10: through some things the way you want to see mechanically

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Speaker 10: at work out, and then actually put some of those

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Speaker 10: accuracy things we know are true about him on display.

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Speaker 5: When do you watch this game? And what I one

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Speaker 5: things I've been encouraged by is the fact that so

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Speaker 5: far it seems like you take something from the week

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Speaker 5: before as a point of emphasis and then you're able

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Speaker 5: to work on it. And I think coming out of

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Speaker 5: that San Francisco game, it was, look, don't be afraid

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Speaker 5: to throw the little anticipation and rip it into the

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Speaker 5: middle of the field, and we certainly saw that saw

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Speaker 5: some great balls from him there. What's kind of as

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Speaker 5: you see you mentioned some of the things that need

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Speaker 5: to go forward, but have you kind of noticed that

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Speaker 5: it feels like there's one big point of emphasis, like

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Speaker 5: don't run out of the back after the Ravens game,

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Speaker 5: and then he cleaned that. Now now he's climbing the pocket.

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Speaker 5: But it just feels like he's clearly putting in the work.

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Speaker 5: Kevin Sefanski and the staff, Timmy Race and Bill Musker,

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Speaker 5: they're doing a great job with him as well week

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Speaker 5: to week. But do you see that that there's kind

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Speaker 5: of clearly one point of emphasis that's getting fixed and addressed,

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Speaker 5: you know, each week. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 10: I think it's fair. I think I think the things

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Speaker 10: that have hindered him through the year to get to

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Speaker 10: the point that he gets the trust to start is

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Speaker 10: just playing with better tempo, right, like believing what you see,

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Speaker 10: throwing what you know is open, making like you said

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Speaker 10: in your question, there a little more anticipatory decisions, and

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Speaker 10: I think.

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Speaker 5: We saw some of that.

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Speaker 10: The ball to Harold fannin up the right sideline against

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Speaker 10: man coverage was a really great throw where he's not open,

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Speaker 10: you're throwing it, putting it in a very precise spot,

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Speaker 10: giving him an opportunity. The ball to David, now there's

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Speaker 10: obviously a split second decision there where Harold Fannon's a little.

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Speaker 3: More open in the back.

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Speaker 5: But he's a little boy, but he's.

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Speaker 10: Making being generous. But he made a choice that he

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Speaker 10: could put it where only David could get it, and

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Speaker 10: that right, So like, I want him to trust what

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Speaker 10: he's seeing until that lets him down and he needs

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Speaker 10: to figure out another pathway because I think if he

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Speaker 10: can trust what he's seeing and it's not you know,

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Speaker 10: to the credit of the offense is keeping some of

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Speaker 10: those things simple for him, but he's also still able

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Speaker 10: to see what needs to be seen. We'll see what

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Speaker 10: the next three defenses do, which move a little bit

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Speaker 10: more in the back half, kind of give you something

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Speaker 10: pre and you know, change a little bit to the

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Speaker 10: post snap look, which is some of the harder, you know,

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Speaker 10: parts of quarterback plays. You think he got something, but

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Speaker 10: they alter it. We'll see over the next three weeks.

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Speaker 10: But what do you want to see from him? Well,

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Speaker 10: I want him to do the little things about the

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Speaker 10: mechanical stuff that the position demands. Right sitting in the pocket,

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Speaker 10: giving yourself a chance to hit the top of ear drop,

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Speaker 10: time up the top of ear drop with the place

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Speaker 10: you think is the best to go with the football,

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Speaker 10: simultaneously being willing to give your offensive line a chance

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Speaker 10: by gliding through the pocket with mechanics in the way

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Speaker 10: that need to be done. And then like we've kind

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Speaker 10: of hinted that here, believing the thing it is happening

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Speaker 10: in front of you and throwing it a beat sooner.

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Speaker 5: And I think that stuff happened.

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Speaker 10: I certainly do. Now there is a couple of plays

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Speaker 10: that I think he's going to start getting better at

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Speaker 10: these concepts. Right, So down on the goal line, I'm

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Speaker 10: going to talking about a couple of specific plays.

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Speaker 3: Down the goal line.

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Speaker 10: They tried to get Dylan out this week, who is

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Speaker 10: proving himself to be a very worthwhile receiving back, and

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Speaker 10: you could see it brewing throughout the yar. I'm glad

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Speaker 10: they're recognizing it and giving him more opportunity. They tried

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Speaker 10: to give him a little Texas route out of the

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Speaker 10: backfield down the goal line first and seven. Down there

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Speaker 10: at the goal line, the backside backer processes what's happening

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Speaker 10: and undercuts it. And I think Shador did a great

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Speaker 10: job of seeing that, processing that if he threw that,

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Speaker 10: either Dylan was going to get in concussion protocol or

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Speaker 10: possibly have that ball intercepted. He then eludes creates seven

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Speaker 10: yard touchdown run right another throw that I thought was

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Speaker 10: real or it wasn't a throw, it's another run. Was

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Speaker 10: really impressive. There's a backside dig the tillman that off

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Speaker 10: of a run action, and what I deem run action

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Speaker 10: is when you're under center and you're really everybody's selling runs,

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Speaker 10: so it is a true turn your back to the defense,

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Speaker 10: then step into the pocket read it out. It was

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Speaker 10: cover two and the safety to the place side drove

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Speaker 10: down on the dig. He did a great job of

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Speaker 10: feeling that out. Now in film he'll see that the

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Speaker 10: backside seem to Jerry Judy was running with nobody around him,

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Speaker 10: but he took off up the middle and gained fifteen

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Speaker 10: yards to create something positive.

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Speaker 11: What I like is that.

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Speaker 10: He's seeing some of these moving parts of the defense

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Speaker 10: and then still finding a way to create positives off

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Speaker 10: of that. Now he'll get to the point where he'll

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Speaker 10: come off of a primary, get to a secondary and

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Speaker 10: find some of those I do think that's going to

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Speaker 10: start clicking for him. But what you want to see

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Speaker 10: is can a quarterback see maybe what's not in his

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Speaker 10: line of sight, but understand the way that coverage is

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Speaker 10: moving and yo yoing and kind of working in cohesion.

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Speaker 10: And I think he did a pretty good job of

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Speaker 10: that on a couple specific instances. There's another third down

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Speaker 10: where he wants to hit a snag route on a

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Speaker 10: third and six feels it. You can you can you

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Speaker 10: can sense it if you watch it closely, you can

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Speaker 10: sense he wants to scramble.

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Speaker 9: But then the.

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Speaker 10: Light bulb comes on, Boom, checking into the flat to

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Speaker 10: set to Jerome Ford on a swing route. He picks

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Speaker 10: up the eight yards for the first down. So he's

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Speaker 10: he's working diligently on the things that he's done, and

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Speaker 10: he's talked about it, hunting big plays, these things, et

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Speaker 10: cetera said, and he has you know, there's still gonna

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Speaker 10: be a blip on the radar. The interception is something

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Speaker 10: he desperately wants back, and there's a reason I talk

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Speaker 10: about it in a phone breakdown. He's got he's got

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Speaker 10: an answer to the running back had a little brain

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Speaker 10: far but those are gonna happen as you get used

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Speaker 10: to the NFL speed and stuff. But I'm very encouraged,

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Speaker 10: guys by the little things he knows he needs to

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Speaker 10: work on, and it's clear the attention that he's giving

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Speaker 10: those in a mental and physical process each week.

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Speaker 3: Jake, what concepts and and what sets, what plays is

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Speaker 3: he most comfortable in?

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Speaker 10: Well, that's a good question. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 10: is most comfortable in the gun because that's what he

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Speaker 10: has done through his career. But I'll be honest, the

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Speaker 10: stuff under center, which is a place the NFL needs

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Speaker 10: to live. He's getting better mechanically at some of those,

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Speaker 10: and I'll give you another example as a bootleg in

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Speaker 10: the early I think it was the second quarter, maybe

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Speaker 10: late first quarter, there's a bootleg where he's selling the

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Speaker 10: play fake turn obviously back turn to the defensive end,

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Speaker 10: he boots out and then as he's booting out the

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Speaker 10: backside and stays home, and he does a great job

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Speaker 10: of feeling that, not panicking, stepping up and hitting his

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Speaker 10: intermediate backside drag to Cedric Tillman for a nice I

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Speaker 10: think it was Tilman for a really nice, nice catch.

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Speaker 10: So he's getting more comfortable inside of what they want

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Speaker 10: to do in their play action run action game, which

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Speaker 10: is very encouraging. I do think he's shown as you

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Speaker 10: saw on the glance route touchdown to Jerry Judy there

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Speaker 10: the sixty yards glance is an eight to eighteen skinny post,

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Speaker 10: really comfortable job of coming off the front side drag

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Speaker 10: high low to get to that because the safety really

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Speaker 10: what your quarterback is doing. If it's single high and

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Speaker 10: you have a backside glance. If the safety works sits

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Speaker 10: on the hash or works off of it, you've got

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Speaker 10: a window to throw it. He had a window. He

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Speaker 10: knew it. He came off the front side to that

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Speaker 10: backside glance, put it on the absolute perfect spot. Jerry

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Speaker 10: won the route. All those things come together, you get

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Speaker 10: a big play. He's comfortable and empty, which is encouraging

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Speaker 10: because as we know over the years, Kevin and his

658
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 10: structure of offense likes to have the West Coast staples

659
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 10: and the empty stuff. And I think he's showing improvement

660
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 10: in getting off of just being a one side of

661
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 10: the field reader. And that's hard, right, that's very hard

662
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 10: at the NFL level to get comfortable at the speed

663
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 10: of the game and all that and be working on

664
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Speaker 10: the little mechanical things he's working on and getting there,

665
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 10: so again, really encouraging stuff as far as his ability

666
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 10: to do the things that an NFL offense needs to do,

667
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 10: getting under center, handling the mechanic so that getting the

668
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 10: feel of how to drop a football off on a

669
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 10: bootleg and things of that nature, or set up like

670
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 10: he did and drive an intermediate route because it's taken

671
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 10: away on the front side and there's still some stuff here.

672
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 10: Like again, I don't know how many examples you want.

673
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 10: I could provide these all day, but they ran a

674
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 10: little insert play action concept where they took fan and

675
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 10: the credit of Tommy Reeve. He copy and pasted this

676
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 10: off Shanahan.

677
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: The week before.

678
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Speaker 10: So they'd like to take their wing with Kyle Uschek

679
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 10: and tilt him and then put him in the speed

680
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 10: motion in the backfield like a full back and then

681
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 10: insert him into the line of scrimmage and then get

682
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 10: him out on a route. If you remember the forty

683
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 10: nine Ers game, the first play of the game, they

684
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 10: did this exact thing. They took use check in a wing,

685
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 10: put him in the full back position on the fly,

686
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 10: he snaps it, he takes a corner route up the

687
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 10: right side. They get like twenty five yard It's tough

688
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 10: to defend. I think the Steelers also got the Browns

689
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 10: on the first play of a game on that with

690
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 10: Big Darnell Washington as well. But what I'm getting at is,

691
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 10: first of all, Tommy I like copy and pasting, really

692
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 10: good play callers, So that's great. But on that bootleg,

693
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 10: Schador did not properly fell out how the intermediate coverage

694
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 10: was playing to the corner because Fannin was pretty open,

695
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 10: and you could see him upset with himself about that

696
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 10: because he threw back kind of in the middle of

697
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 10: the field to the intermediate dragon it almost I think

698
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 10: it was probably grated as a turnover where the play

699
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 10: it got tipped and almost intercepted. But you can feel

700
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 10: exposure to these things getting used to it is something

701
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 10: he's getting more comfortable with. And those things in the

702
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 10: gun are what he's most comfortable doing, whether he's three

703
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 10: by one or two by two with a back in

704
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 10: the backfield. But I think the NFL stuff that I

705
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 10: think makes offense is really good. The ability to get

706
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 10: under center, the ability to get creative with run action

707
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 10: from under center is so much more nuanced when you

708
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 10: can get that quarterback under center. And I'm encouraged by

709
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 10: how well the little things seem to be being worked on.

710
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean I haven't really said anything negative here,

711
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 10: but that's because he has made some nice strides.

712
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think he's even increased. I think he's

713
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 5: sped up getting away from center. I thought some of

714
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 5: the first games he was kind of slow and it

715
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: kind of threw the timing off on some of those

716
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 5: play actions. And now he's he's doing that quickly and

717
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 5: I think he's doing he's looking really good. There are

718
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 5: two things that I liked about him on his tape

719
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 5: in college, Jake, and you know this, We've talked about

720
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: this for but you know, I didn't know any of

721
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 5: the other stuff. But I thought he was certainly a

722
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: first round quarterback on tape, and I was very excited

723
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: for the Browns to be able to opportunity to get

724
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: him early in the first round. Now that ends up

725
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 5: being in the fifth round even better. The two things

726
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 5: were one, his ability to and willingness to stand in

727
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 5: the pocket, look down the barrel of a rusher and

728
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: take a big hit. I mean to throw up the

729
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 5: right sideline to fan in and he gets absolutely crushed.

730
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 5: He knows that hits coming. I thought was big time stuff,

731
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 5: and that's what you need to be able to do

732
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: that in the National Football League. And then the second

733
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: is his ball placement. And you talked about, you know

734
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 5: where he probably didn't make the right decision to throw

735
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 5: the ball to a Joku relative. VI's a v fan

736
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: in right there. But when you can put the ball

737
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 5: right where you want it, sometimes it doesn't matter. And

738
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 5: I've seen you know, Lance Risen was saying, you know,

739
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: players overplays, and that's an example of that. But if

740
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 5: you can do those things, and that ball placement not

741
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 5: only does allow him to throw it in tight windows,

742
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 5: I think it also promotes yact. If you're a quarterback

743
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: that can have elite ball placement where you allow you're

744
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: helping your guys get up the field after they catch it,

745
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: and you're willing to stand there, you can have a

746
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: very long, successful career in this league. And those seem

747
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: to be two things that are kind of at the

748
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: core of what he does.

749
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: Well.

750
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Speaker 4: Do you agree with that?

751
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 10: I do? And to piggyback off what you're talking about,

752
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 10: he really is sneaky good in the screen game of

753
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 10: selling downfield before he moves his body and eyes to

754
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 10: the screen. That sounds very simple, but there are some

755
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 10: quarterbacks who are very rushed in that process who you

756
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 10: can just delineate that they're not throwing. There's not a

757
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 10: desire to three step five step throw down field, and

758
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 10: it ties into what the offensive line is doing and

759
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 10: then you can sniff out a screen. I think he's

760
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 10: doing a really nice job on that very small part

761
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 10: of the game. But obviously it's a part of getting

762
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 10: those screens to break open, so I think he's doing

763
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 10: a nice job on those as well. Really getting those

764
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 10: guys both a tight end obviously involved and they're specifically too.

765
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 10: So yeah, the placement of the football has been something

766
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 10: he's been very good at. That's the Colorado tape stuff

767
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 10: that you really liked. He tended to give his guys,

768
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 10: whether it was either jump ball opportunities or those you know,

769
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 10: those put the football out in front of them situations,

770
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 10: enough of those opportunities to get his you know, the

771
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 10: space to field in which it helped everybody, helped everybody thrive.

772
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think that stuff is carried over. I

773
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 10: think the thing that he's probably still saying in the

774
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 10: room is eliminating some of those over three second plays

775
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 10: where you know, if you're just dancing in the backfield

776
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 10: a little bit and you ultimately throw it away, which

777
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 10: he did a good job on some of those. You

778
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 10: could see him like, I don't know, five out of

779
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 10: six of those just saying all right, I'm just gonna

780
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 10: chuck this into the sideline. If you're doing a good

781
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 10: job of that, that is obviously going to extend your

782
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 10: time to throw because that's just the way the metric traces.

783
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 10: He'll get better at it. I think the Browns offense

784
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 10: providing him. More of those late delay checkdowns are getting

785
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 10: more encouraging because he can get to those in a

786
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 10: comfortable fashion. And I just was really, I'm like, this

787
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 10: is like such quarterback one oh one stuff, but it is.

788
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 10: You would be stunned how hard it is to be

789
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 10: looking downfield, trying to process four different things, five different

790
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 10: three hundred pound bodies trying to tackle you in the

791
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 10: backfield and then your brain tell you, oh, just check

792
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 10: this thing down to the back right here beside me

793
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 10: or in the flat It's just it's hard. It's hard

794
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 10: to get to mentally. So he's doing that, and that's

795
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 10: an encouraging thing to see. There's that, and I'll give

796
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 10: you that this last example of just like what is

797
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 10: shad Door need to do to be better on that interception?

798
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 10: If you get a chance, folks to go back and

799
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 10: watch it. What they're doing is they're running a play

800
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 10: action concept and what they're trying to do is get

801
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 10: an over route from the left side slot over at

802
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 10: an intermediate like five, climbing to fifteen over the top

803
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 10: of the corner. Now you release a back to the

804
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 10: flat light and what you have, opportunity wise, is a

805
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 10: chance to either throw if the corner sinks, or it

806
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 10: could be a crow flat defender, whatever the coverage is

807
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 10: with this was cover two, so cover two you got

808
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 10: two down corners. If the corner sinks and plays deep

809
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 10: underneath that overroute, just drop it to your back. It's

810
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 10: an easy five six yards. Let's keep it moving. It'll

811
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 10: be third and three. If he comes up and plays

812
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 10: the flat, then let's hey, let's rip that thing over

813
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 10: his head. Got a guy in trail position, put it

814
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 10: where we need to get it. We can maybe get

815
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 10: a chunk, play an explosive out of it. On that play,

816
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 10: the guy drops, he's thinking, and Chador does face a

817
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 10: little bit of pressure. The pressure takes them to the

818
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 10: right and he just has to flip that to the back.

819
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 10: He does do a nice job of getting away from

820
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 10: the pressure and creating extra time, but then he makes

821
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 10: that late decision to try to throw the gauge over

822
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 10: the middle and it's intercepted. It's just, hey, man, trust

823
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 10: the process. One two, three. Here's my one choice. Here's

824
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 10: my two choice. Let's get it to him. Let's keep

825
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 10: this thing moving. Let's keep the change move Because I

826
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 10: think if you went back and you and you really

827
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 10: study what made people hesitant about Shador from the tape

828
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 10: of college to translating to the NFL, it was extending plays,

829
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 10: drifting and try a big play hunt something he has

830
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 10: personally recognized he has to get better at. So if

831
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 10: you've seen encouraging signs there, which I have seen some

832
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 10: encouraging signs, I want to see more of it. If

833
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 10: you've seen some encouraging signs, some self recognition of hey,

834
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 10: I got to get better at this. If you eliminate that,

835
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 10: you get the time to throw down around the three

836
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 10: second mark, you're in the world of like you know,

837
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 10: getting below Jalen Hurt some of the real athletes at

838
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 10: the position Lamar, you g get it towards the three

839
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 10: second mark. You play on time, you know when to

840
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 10: check it down. He's moving the sticks forward. That's kind

841
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 10: of where Browns fans can get excited about. This guy

842
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 10: might be the answer. That gives them at least another

843
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 10: year to figure out if he's the answer, and then

844
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 10: you can draft some guys around him, as we know

845
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 10: they need to on offense and see what you got

846
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 10: the balls in his court if he goes out and

847
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 10: leads them to two or maybe even three wins the

848
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 10: rest of the way, he's going to make that decision

849
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 10: uncomfortable for the front office.

850
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 11: It's in his court.

851
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 10: He's got every opportunity to earn a twenty twenty six

852
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 10: starting campaign. He's got some good deal defenses to play,

853
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 10: some teams that are hungry for wins, You pull off

854
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 10: some upsets, you create some momentum in that locker room

855
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 10: going into next year, and you never know, You never know.

856
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: Jake.

857
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: Only correction I would make with what you said is

858
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: that would make the front office very comfortable because you

859
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to draft a quarterback and you would have

860
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: to sign one, and then you're great, Like that's gravy,

861
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: Like that's a lottery ticket in every other way. I

862
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: did have a question for you, non quarterback related. It's

863
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: been a struggle bust trying to run the football. Where

864
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: in your analysis is that are those problems coming from

865
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: most especially and is there a path to get the

866
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: run game back on track? And Quinjohn's still making a

867
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: lot out of not much. He's getting hit behind the

868
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage consistently. What are you seeing there?

869
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a group that is just underperforming

870
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 10: in the physical nature of the position and the interior.

871
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 10: I know that sounds so simplistic, but they are just

872
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 10: getting beat up too often at the line of scrimmage,

873
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 10: not maintaining some of those blocks that I will say

874
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 10: to me personally, and the data backs this up. They're

875
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 10: leading the league in eight man boxes that they're running against.

876
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: You can't live in that world.

877
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 10: You just can't unless you have an unbelievable offensive line

878
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 10: and slew of receivers who can step in and be

879
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 10: real physical blockers. And we can agree right now they're

880
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 10: not in that place. So what they need to try

881
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: to figure out. I would love to see them try

882
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 10: to figure out the rest of the way, as it

883
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 10: is clear because of David being beat up a little bit,

884
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 10: they're trying to live in a little bit more eleven

885
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 10: personnel with some three wide receivers and Harold on the field.

886
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 10: And we can agree that Harold is young, a dynamic

887
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 10: weapon in the past game, but as a blocker is

888
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 10: a work in progress. They are just getting beat up

889
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 10: too often at the point of attack. So the data

890
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 10: points that are concerning to me is that they're second

891
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 10: in the league in yards before our yards before contact,

892
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 10: which is an indicator that Hey, you know, the Browns

893
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 10: are at like point five to zero and the Bears

894
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 10: lead the legal two point six. So think about the

895
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 10: Bears getting two and a half yards of the head

896
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 10: start before anybody even contacts their guys. So the Browns

897
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 10: have to get more creative and how they try to run.

898
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 10: They have to get out of condensed sets so often

899
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 10: that it puts eight guys in the box. Often three

900
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 10: or four of those guys just a little better, a

901
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 10: little more physical, maybe a little younger than some of

902
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 10: the guys they're putting in their upfront, and create more

903
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 10: opportunity for Quinncheann to get into space. Because he's top

904
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 10: ten in miss tackles force, he's top ten in yards

905
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 10: after contact. He's really good. You just got to give

906
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 10: him a little bit more space to operate with. And

907
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 10: I think if you can create that space, either by

908
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 10: formation spreading, you can be an eleven personnel under center.

909
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 10: You can get more creative with motion and expanding defenses.

910
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 10: And I think if you can get more of those

911
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 10: bodies out of the box, I think he got a

912
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 10: much better chance to figure this out in the future.

913
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 10: So that's really the big challenge to me. It's hard

914
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 10: to rectify it right now, hard to rectify it the

915
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 10: rest of this year.

916
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 11: But if I'm in the the.

917
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 10: Business of fixing this offensive line and getting things in

918
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 10: the place next year, it's Hey, we've got a dynamic runner.

919
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 10: And I think we can all agree Dylan has proven

920
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 10: himself in the back half of this year to also

921
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 10: be a guy who if you get into space, it

922
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 10: can be a real weapon for you. We got to

923
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 10: create how do we create space, Bigger run lanes, bigger opportunities,

924
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 10: more matchups one on one where Quinn Shawn's one on

925
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 10: one with a corner in space, you're not tackling him.

926
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 10: It's the old.

927
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 5: Adage with Nick.

928
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 10: If you made Nick every carry, Nick was making one

929
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 10: guy miss, And if you make a corner miss, usually

930
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 10: there's nobody behind him. So let's figure out how to

931
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 10: have that happen more often.

932
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: And one of the ways you can also do that.

933
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 5: You mentioned fan and who's having a very nice season.

934
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: I think you know, we saw Jerry Judy have the

935
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 5: nice game, and I think people like you who watch

936
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 5: it tape certainly saw against a nine er se was

937
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: in line. He could have had a lot of bigger

938
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: games this season. I want to ask you about one

939
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: guy who I've just kind of been a fan of

940
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: the whole time, and it seems like he gets opened

941
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: deep at least once a game, which feels to me

942
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: like a very valuable thing the NFL is Isaiah Bond.

943
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: What do we need to do to kind of unlie

944
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: Kim Moore? And is he, you know, to develop into

945
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 5: a full receiver. I think he's got obviously some work,

946
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 5: but he's willing to make tough catches over the middle.

947
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 5: But this guy gets deep at least once a.

948
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 11: Game, right, he does?

949
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: He does.

950
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 10: He was open on that ball up the right sideline

951
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 10: and was just underthrown. And I think some of that

952
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 10: is like Chador is going to figure out the wind

953
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 10: on the lake front. Like it's not like he doesn't

954
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 10: have enough arm to get it down there. To him,

955
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 10: it's just it's just figuring out some timing, some releasing

956
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 10: that maybe two or three yards sooner, et cetera, et cetera.

957
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 10: I think you've pointed this out to me, Nathan throughout

958
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 10: the year, like he's doing it. It's going to happen

959
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 10: for him. I think the plays are going to be thrown.

960
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 10: There's gonna be enough recognition. I think playing quarterback accordion here,

961
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 10: like going back and forth, like like let's settle in

962
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 10: with the guy that's going to be doing it. It's

963
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 10: pretty clear that Shador is getting the rest of the

964
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 10: year now, and when you do that, I think you

965
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 10: can start to scheme up some specific ways for him

966
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 10: to get loose in the back half of coverage and

967
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 10: also have a quarterback be very heightened to what we

968
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 10: want to do. We get this single high look, this

969
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 10: is where we're going. We get the too high look

970
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 10: and it sits in open coverage where the safeties are split.

971
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 11: Let's go.

972
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 10: It's just they need time, they need reps together, and

973
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 10: I think if they get that with within the product

974
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,959
Speaker 10: of whoever's taking snaps and Shador is the guy who's

975
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 10: obviously doing that, I think that can trend in a

976
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 10: little better direction. I'm encouraged because I know earlier in

977
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 10: the year some of the banter we had was like

978
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 10: they're not even seeing him. I feel like they're seeing

979
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 10: him now and it's just a matter of like, let's

980
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 10: get it down there to him and let's let him

981
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 10: run away from people. So, yeah, his ability to lift

982
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 10: the lid is imperative in the modern game. And if

983
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 10: he can, if he can do that, and they can

984
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 10: turn him into you know, uh uh some sort of

985
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 10: some sort of version of his name is eluding me

986
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 10: with a New Orleans and traded to Seattle. But you

987
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 10: just if you can get a guy loose deep downfield,

988
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 10: and he's doing that, I think it's a matter of

989
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 10: time before you, you know, you find yourself connecting on

990
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 10: some of those, especially with the quarterback. I think he

991
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 10: was a little more willing to chase some of those

992
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 10: deep air yard shots.

993
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:56,479
Speaker 4: Jake.

994
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: This was awesome. Thank you so much for your time.

995
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Greatly appreciate you, Bud.

996
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 10: Guys anytime, my pleasure to be on the show.

997
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 5: Hey, good stuff.

998
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,000
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1010
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 3: thoughts on the game against the Titans, we turn it

1011
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: over to Duc to Zee.

1012
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 5: This game was really again it's we will look back

1013
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 5: on this hopefully as the beginning of you know, Shador

1014
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: Sanders and doing historic things. You know, over three hundred

1015
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 5: fifty yards, passing three touchdowns, passing ran for a touchdown,

1016
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 5: only one turnover in the game, something that only Joe

1017
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 5: Burrow has done as a rookie quarterback. We're talking about

1018
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: a performance, you know, where this guy's getting generating big plays.

1019
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 5: Only he and Aaron Rodgers have produced four plays of

1020
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 5: more than fifty yards or more pass plays and more

1021
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 5: than fifty yards are more in their first three starts

1022
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 5: in the NFL ever since the year two thousand. So

1023
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 5: he's doing some historic things and we want to keep

1024
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 5: building on this. To me, that's the takeaway in this

1025
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 5: Yey Miles got his twenty sack. Miles now is at

1026
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 5: thirty one tackles for a loss as well. That's awesome,

1027
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: But this was about Shaudor opening things up. Harold Fannon

1028
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 5: continues to impress. So it was good to get Judy going.

1029
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: Dylan Samson was good out of the backfield. Got to

1030
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 5: take care of the football obviously, and then the things

1031
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: that you know, our run defense that was rough and

1032
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: we just heard, you know, Chicago was one of the

1033
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 5: best run offenses in the league. They're gonna test that,

1034
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 5: especially in the freezing, bitter cold this weekend in Chicago,

1035
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 5: so that's got to get cleaned up. And then the

1036
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 5: other things special teams again, I mean a blocked punt,

1037
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 5: a long kickoff return to open the game. The block

1038
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 5: punt one, to me was just almost an excuse. I

1039
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: mean the guy was literally not touched and I don't

1040
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 5: know how that happens. It was just too easy. And

1041
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: that leads to three points that changed the whole dynamic.

1042
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 5: And then you know, you got a lot of young

1043
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 5: players involved. It's just the nature of the Beast is

1044
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: that you know, as you're going down the stretch here,

1045
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 5: everybody on the field's a rookie, with the exception of

1046
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: Jerry Judy. Yep, that's going to touch the football everybody,

1047
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: and you know those guys maybe aren't going to execute

1048
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: perfectly all the time, and we saw that on that

1049
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: two point conversion. But this is one to be encouraged about.

1050
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: It's one to be encouraged by. And the encouragement is

1051
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 5: this seasons all about trying to find out do we

1052
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 5: have a quarterback on this roster. And here's another thing

1053
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 5: that I'm just this is a I don't know if

1054
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: it's part of the minute or not, but it's more

1055
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 5: of a side is all these this talk of conspiracy

1056
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: theories and Kevin Stefanski, you know, trying to limit Shador

1057
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 5: and then now he's trying to Now it's a conspiracy

1058
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 5: that he's starting chaudor the rest of the way, which

1059
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: he can't have it. All that can all be true.

1060
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 5: There should be some credit given to this to two entities.

1061
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: One is this staff which is led by Kevin Stancy,

1062
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 5: and the others to Shador himself. People don't like to

1063
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 5: hear that it can both be true that Shador Sanders

1064
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: had a higher ceiling and is a more talented quarterback

1065
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 5: than Dylan Gabriel, and that Dylan Gabriel was ready to

1066
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 5: play earlier in his rookie season than Shador was. People

1067
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 5: think that that's like it's impossible, and what Chador is

1068
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 5: showing now means he should have started. And perhaps that

1069
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 5: might have been the case, but I know that his

1070
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 5: learning curve and the things that he had to do

1071
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 5: to get ready to play and be a quarterback the

1072
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: NFL level were large. And we've also heard that Kevin

1073
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 5: took extra time ever before and after practice and Shador

1074
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 5: did as well, Yeah, to get him even more and

1075
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 5: more prepared and more ready. And what we're seeing now

1076
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: is a young man making progress every week with a

1077
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 5: ton of talent. I mean, he was I loved him

1078
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 5: coming out in this draft, and now we're getting to

1079
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 5: see the reasons that people like me and all the

1080
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: guys who were you know, quote unquote the draft experts,

1081
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: even those who didn't like him thought he was an

1082
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 5: early second round player. You're seeing that talent. And I

1083
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: think there needs to be credit given to this staff,

1084
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 5: to Kevin, to Tommy Reese, to Bill musk Grave, and

1085
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 5: to Shador himself for putting in the work. But maybe

1086
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 5: this development plan that they put in place has worked,

1087
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 5: because we're seeing it now that doesn't necessarily mean that

1088
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 5: maybe he shouldn't should have started earlier. It means maybe

1089
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: this all happened kind of at the right time for him,

1090
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 5: because what we saw against Baltimore wasn't necessarily ready. But

1091
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 5: then what we've seen every week after that, it's gotten

1092
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: better and better and better. And I think that this

1093
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 5: is there should be some credit. This is handled well.

1094
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: It's not often that you get a guy now we

1095
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 5: need him to do it consistently, but no doing historic stuff.

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00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: Fifth round rookies typically don't.

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00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 5: The last time I can think of a rookie that

1098
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 5: was drafted that late, that in their rookie year, came

1099
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 5: in and was able to play a really high levels

1100
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 5: Brock Purty with Kyle Shannan. Yeah, and guess who got

1101
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 5: all the credit.

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00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: For that, right, Yeah, right, Kyle.

1103
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 5: Where everybody deserves credit for this. This is looking This

1104
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 5: is a lottery ticket that's looking like it has the

1105
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 5: potential to cash, and that requires great work from the player.

1106
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 5: That requires and the diligence to address the things that

1107
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 5: he needed to address because we knew about his talent

1108
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 5: throwing the football, and then from the staff helping with

1109
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: that development plan and giving him extra time. I just

1110
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 5: think it's weird to me that it's right now, this

1111
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 5: should be looked at as a success.

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00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: Dude.

1113
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: We are we live in a world and especially what

1114
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 3: you and I do that is incapable of nuance. It's

1115
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: incapable of shades of gray. Yeah, it's black and it's white,

1116
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: and there's no reason, there's no way that you can

1117
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 3: have a conversation. Yeah, that is nuanced, and it's a shame.

1118
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: There's also absolutely there is no accountability for words, yep,

1119
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: at all. You can say whatever you want, whenever you

1120
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: want without any retribution or any fact checking, and there's

1121
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: no way to prove any of it. And so yeah,

1122
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: I wish there was a more intelligent conversation around all

1123
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 3: of it, but there just isn't because no one really

1124
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: is interested in nuance. This is good and it's all good.

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00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: That is good. Yes, all right, we'll hit one thought

1126
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,920
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Speaker 3: every game in week thirteen to the twenty twenty? Is

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00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: it thirteen or four?

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00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 4: Was at fourteen?

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00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 3: I think that's it was fourteen fourteen.

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00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 4: We're on fIF fifteen. I've got thirteen fourteen fifteen. It's

1142
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: fourteen because of the bye week. Technically it's week fifteen.

1143
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: This week this we always played thirteen. We've only played that.

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00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: All right, my apologies, All good, All good. Give a

1145
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 3: time for one thought.

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00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 4: Uh, we do have a few new in house cleanings.

1147
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1148
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. The Browns have placed Ethan postict Achilles and running

1149
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 4: back Jerome Ford's shoulder on injured reserve.

1150
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 8: Okay.

1151
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 4: In addition, the team assigned center Darien Dalcourt and defensive

1152
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: tackle Keith Cooper Junior to the practice squad and released

1153
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 4: defensive ends. Uh. Mathis and linebacker Mark Robinson from the.

1154
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 5: Press, the great tires, the legend legend.

1155
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: So we haven't signed anybody up to replace those two.

1156
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna it's gonna be interesting to see.

1157
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: Like we have.

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00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 3: We have a couple. We have a couple of roster

1159
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: spots to fill starting offensive line. Looks like on Sunday, well.

1160
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 5: It'll be Whippler will be there and there at center.

1161
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll join the program Thursday. Who will whip maybe

1162
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 4: then yeah, uh, away we go. One thought from every

1163
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 4: game in Week fourteen of the twenty twenty five NFL season.

1164
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 4: The gutless Falcons. Congratulations they are still gutless. Seattle handles

1165
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: the Falcons thirty seven to nine. Bow Bishop One thought.

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: Well, the Seattle Seahawks are Super Bowl contenders. Their their

1167
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: defense is that good? They're offense is that dynamic? The

1168
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: season Jackson Smith and Jigbit is having is I mean,

1169
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: he might win Offensive Player of the Year. It's just

1170
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: stuff of legend, it really is. Yeah. I think the

1171
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: main story is just how good they are. And they've

1172
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 3: had to go across the country a lot. This was

1173
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 3: another flight across the country for them, and again slow start.

1174
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 3: This is a tie game at half, and then they

1175
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: just go nuts in the second half. The Atlanta side

1176
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: of it is just I don't know really where that

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: franchise is or what it's trying to be right now.

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: It's really weird. They had all these guys that were

1179
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 3: young guys and they just haven't done anything with it.

1180
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 5: Cooked and they made a mistake. They brought in a

1181
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 5: cooked Kirk Cousins and then wasted a first round draft

1182
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 5: pick on an older, injury prone quarterback. Who is I mean,

1183
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 5: poor Drake Lendon's been banged up. I mean they've just

1184
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 5: been They've been as a team that is just banged

1185
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 5: up right now. Not great, not great.

1186
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 4: Next AFC North right now, if the season ends today,

1187
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: the Squealer are in Pittsbuke beats Baltimore in Baltimore twenty seven,

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00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: twenty two?

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Speaker 5: Is the girl one thought? What are we doing with?

1190
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 5: What's a catch? What isn't a catch? What are we doing?

1191
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: Help me understand this? Riddle me this, okay, riddle.

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Speaker 4: Me this ready story.

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00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 5: You're a runner and you're running and you go like

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00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 5: this and the tip of the ball touches the lineup, touchdown, touchdown.

1195
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 5: You're a receiver you're in the end zone. To me,

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00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 5: the second that you catch the ball with both feet down.

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Speaker 3: Done in the end zone? Touchdown over? Yeah, catch it

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00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: and throw it for all I care. How two feet

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Speaker 3: down catch it?

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Speaker 5: So, how is somebody who's on the sidelines who catches

1201
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: one in the ends on the sidelines and just falls

1202
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 5: to the ground. How have they made a football move

1203
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: at any point? They've literally just caught it. But if

1204
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 5: you're in the middle of the end zone, you not

1205
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: only have to catch it take one step, two steps,

1206
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: you'd have to take a third step to No, you're

1207
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Speaker 5: in the end zone. I possessed the football in the

1208
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Speaker 5: end zone for my team. Gobye, let's see ya same,

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 5: that's a touchdown. Yeah, it's got Ravens got robbed. Isaiah

1210
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: likely caught a touchdown. That was a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1212
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 5: You could debate why he was holding the ball weirdly.

1213
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: He could have caught it and.

1214
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: Tucked it, but he caught it in the end zone.

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00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 5: I've got it. Two steps, it's over. You catch the ball,

1216
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: you have two feet down. I don't care what happens next.

1217
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: Neither.

1218
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: It's a touchdown.

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00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: No, that's a simple fix too, common sense. Yeah, we

1220
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: have to have some of it. Aaron Rodgers had a game.

1221
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: He was really good, twenty three to thirty four, two

1222
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 3: eighty four a touchdown in this one did so with Really,

1223
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 3: they have no run game. They can't run it at all.

1224
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: I really thought Caleb Johnson of Iowa would be a

1225
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: be a factor for them. He fumbled that he'd botched

1226
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: that kick return early in the season. He's never been

1227
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: out of the doghouse. They have no threat to run whatsoever.

1228
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: As a team. They ran at seventeen times for thirty

1229
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: four yards, so basically throwing all the time. They got

1230
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: dk Metcalf going. People want to run Tomlin. They're gonna

1231
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 3: win ten games and win the division. It's crazy, yep,

1232
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 3: because they're not good, but that's what's going to happen.

1233
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: Next. The Colts going one way, the Jags going another.

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00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: Jacksonville beats the Colts thirty six nineteen, Danny dimes out

1235
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Speaker 4: for the year. Jacksonville's won four in a row. Colts

1236
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 4: have now lost three in a row. In The Jags

1237
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: are in first in the AFC South. Bo Bishop One.

1238
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: Thought, yeah, I really thought it was one of the

1239
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 3: best games Trevor Lawrence has played as a pro. Statistically

1240
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: it's not gotty like its seventeen to thirty two, forty

1241
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: four and two touchdowns, but he made a lot of

1242
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 3: clutch throws in this one. They set the tone early,

1243
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: finally got Brian Thomas going a little bit, and I

1244
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 3: thought he was gonna have a monster year this year,

1245
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: but it just starts and stops. Hasn't been able to

1246
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: get going to the guy game, rolling the ball.

1247
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: What they spend in ten targets on Jakobe Myers for

1248
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 5: for thirty nine years, I.

1249
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: Do not know. But Lawrence played well and the Jaguars

1250
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: have played well, and you got to put some respect

1251
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: on on Cohen's name. He's done a really good job

1252
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: down there. They're probably gonna end up winning that division.

1253
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: It's hard. I don't think that Houston can catch them,

1254
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: just because of Jacksonville schedule.

1255
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Speaker 5: Any way, Shout out to our guy, Greg Newsom got

1256
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 5: his first interception as a member of the Jags in

1257
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 5: this one. Good job bye by him. Yeah, Jacksonville is

1258
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 5: they're playing well. Their defense takes the football away. They've

1259
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 5: got to get I think Thomas going. I think that'll

1260
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 5: be big for them. Etns run the ball really well. Yeah,

1261
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: they're good and Liam they like Cohen Men, they like him,

1262
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 5: they like etn gave an interview. I got the juice,

1263
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: so is the smoke. He's got some edge to him

1264
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 5: which you would not have seen after the weird.

1265
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: No, no, he does. He's got some juice.

1266
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1267
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 4: Next up the Viking, of course, very sad stave off elimination,

1268
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 4: taking down the Commis and sending Washington to the off

1269
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: season already Bikings thirty one, Commis zero.

1270
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 5: Nathan's the girl who in the world saw this coming.

1271
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 3: No, but this is the most stunning result of the weekend,

1272
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 3: not the Minnesota one, but just how it went last week.

1273
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 5: Saw Washington they had just played, didn't they play an

1274
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 5: electric game against somebody good?

1275
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Mario Denver against Denver it's Denver.

1276
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1277
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: They lost twenty seven to twenty six at home against Denver,

1278
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: and they get smoked in this one. Jayden Daniels looked terrible.

1279
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: You lose zach Ertz on one of the uglier hits

1280
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: you'll see. Yep, just brutal.

1281
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 5: On the other side, McCarthy's just calm, cool, sixteen to

1282
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 5: twenty three, one sixty three runs for twenty yards. They

1283
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,479
Speaker 5: get the ground game going a little bit. They still

1284
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 5: this is not the season for Justin Jefferson sad to

1285
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: say it, like Oz the goodness you don't even have

1286
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 5: to play him in fantasy now you'd say maybe I'll

1287
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 5: play him, just because I'd be more upset if he

1288
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: went off and I didn't play him. But his last

1289
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: five games four for thirty seven, five for sixty one,

1290
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 5: four for forty eight, two for four to two for eleven.

1291
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: He only has two touchdowns on the season.

1292
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 5: We're talking about the guy might he might as well

1293
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 5: be hurt. We're talking about the guy who was the

1294
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 5: all time leader in receiving yards per game at ninety

1295
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: one point six. In the first few years the league,

1296
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: go was eighty seven point five, ninety five point one,

1297
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 5: one oh six point four, one oh seven point four,

1298
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 5: ninety point two, and then this year sixty two sixty two.

1299
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am legitimate concerned about Jade and Daniels long term. Yeah,

1300
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: I think thin the run like two, he just puts

1301
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: himself in harms way way too much, and I'm really

1302
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: concerned about that. This was the best JJ McCarthy has

1303
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: played by one hundred miles in the league. But this

1304
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 3: was the most stupefying result of the weekend by far

1305
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 3: the way that this one was.

1306
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jas Daniels might be heard, but the commedy's defense

1307
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 4: isn't supposed to be that.

1308
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 5: No, and the Vikings offense had been so bad, just

1309
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 5: kind of a stunner.

1310
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, this one was.

1311
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: Don't look now, but here come to Miami Dolphins. We

1312
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 4: talk about him every week and the job Mike McDaniel

1313
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 4: has done turning things around there. Since that loss. Here

1314
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, Dolphin have won four in a row. They're

1315
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: six and seven. They handled the Jets thirty four to ten.

1316
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 4: Bo Bishop.

1317
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what they did since losing to Baltimore, gentlemen.

1318
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: What they did is they said, hey, tua uh, you're

1319
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: just gonna hand it off. We're just gonna run it.

1320
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 3: You're really not going to throw it at all. Two

1321
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 3: A tongue of I low is passing yards last four

1322
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: times out one seventy three, one seventy one, one fifty seven,

1323
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: one twenty seven. Never attempted more than twenty three passes

1324
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 3: in any of those four games that were all wins.

1325
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they have the exact same

1326
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 3: record as the Kansas City Chiefs.

1327
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 5: Devon Achan played twenty snaps in this game. He ends

1328
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 5: up leaving hurt. He had eight touches. They went for

1329
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 5: one hundred and five yards and a touchdown. My question is,

1330
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 5: what does he have to do to get more notoriety?

1331
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 5: You know what I mean? This is this guy's never

1332
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 5: even made the Pro Bowl. Okay, yeah, never made the

1333
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl. Last year he had fifteen hundred total yards

1334
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 5: and twelve touchdowns. This year in thirteen games already fifteen

1335
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 5: under nine total yards eleven touchdowns. He's leading the league

1336
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 5: averaging five point eight yards a catch. He's got eleven

1337
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 5: hundred twenty six yards rushing, seven touchdowns on only one

1338
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 5: hundred and ninety three carries. He also has fifty five catches,

1339
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 5: three hundred and eighty three yards and another four scores.

1340
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: He is a guy's unbelievable. And it's every week. I

1341
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 5: mean it's every single week herera is last. The last

1342
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 5: time he didn't have at least ninety yards total in

1343
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 5: a game was back in Week five against Carolina. He

1344
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 5: had forty six, but he did score a touchdown in

1345
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 5: that game. He's gone ninety eight ninety one in a touchdown.

1346
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 5: His last five games, one oh six, two twenty five

1347
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 5: and two, one sixty five, one thirty four and one,

1348
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 5: one oh five and one. I mean, the guy is,

1349
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 5: he's unbelievable. He had one hundred and five. He averaged

1350
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 5: thirteen yards of touch this last week.

1351
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 4: Thirteen yards touch. I don't know how Miami makes the

1352
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 4: playoffs round. I mean, I know the Dolphins have put

1353
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 4: themselves back into the race. But Monday night in Pittspuke

1354
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 4: home for the Bengals. That game, by the way, he

1355
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 4: got flexedt flexed.

1356
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 3: Out, flex out, flexed out.

1357
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 5: What's in like?

1358
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: Bill Ravens Patriots?

1359
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 5: Patriots, Ravens Patriots, Ravens.

1360
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then week seventeen they host Tampa Bay Week

1361
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: eighteen at New England. That's a lot to ask.

1362
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they're not going to make it, but it's

1363
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 3: a good job out of him flipping it because they

1364
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: were cooked.

1365
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: Yeah. In the more stupefying games of the week, the

1366
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 4: Saints that stupefying beat Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay is a

1367
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 4: reeling twenty four to twenty No look now, but Carolina

1368
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,479
Speaker 4: on the bye week is somehow moved into a tie

1369
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 4: for first with Tampa Bay. Bo Bishop's wallet might begin

1370
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 4: a little lighter on that. Nathan Zegara one thought awful.

1371
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield over the first six games of the year

1372
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 5: was an MVP candidate all of it. You know, he

1373
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 5: was thrown for a ton of yards. He had six, eight, ten,

1374
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 5: twelve touchdowns in one pick. The last four games, he's

1375
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 5: got four touchdowns, four picks. He has not thrown for

1376
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 5: two hundred yards in a game. He has been under

1377
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 5: fifty percent completions in two of those four games. It's

1378
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 5: just been absolutely dreadful. They barely beat Arizona, they got

1379
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 5: boat raced by the Rams, they got beaten badly by

1380
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills, and they just lost to the Saints.

1381
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: I mean, they are reeling. This is a team that

1382
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 5: started off five to one and they have lost now

1383
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 5: five of their last seven.

1384
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I you know, I know he's playing, he's

1385
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: dealing with injury or whatever, but like, just.

1386
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 5: When did that game happen? This wasn't that long ago.

1387
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 3: It was a couple of weeks ago. Like just stop,

1388
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: like it's enough, Like if you can't play, then don't

1389
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 3: you're not effective, don't play.

1390
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, all I know is this Carolina's last four Oh

1391
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 4: I know home. I'm sorry. In New Orleans, they have

1392
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay at their place, They have Seattle at their place,

1393
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 4: and then they go to Tampa Bay to close it out.

1394
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 4: That could be Sunday Night Football winning You're in.

1395
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: I think it. Yeah, if Tampa Bay can get there, Yeah,

1396
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: in that spot.

1397
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 4: But Bay schedule, they they're Thursday Night Football this week

1398
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: against Atlanta.

1399
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 3: Gross, that's awful. I'm taking that one off.

1400
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 4: Yep.

1401
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 3: I will not be watching.

1402
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 4: That at Carolina Miami home for Carolina.

1403
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 3: I et it the doing that.

1404
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 5: So what was the third one? It was Atlanta at

1405
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: Carolina for the Bucks. What's between the two Carolina games?

1406
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 4: Stand by Dolphins at Miami.

1407
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 5: I like Carolina's chances right now.

1408
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate to say it.

1409
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: Nine and eight's going to win that division.

1410
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 5: Well, you're gonna either have that game you're talking about,

1411
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 5: the win and get in game is either going to

1412
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 5: be Tampa Carolina or it's going to be Baltimore Pittsburgh.

1413
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Final one in the early window. The Bills take

1414
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: down the Bengals and put a series are serious damper

1415
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 4: on the Bengals playoff hopes. Thirty nine thirty four bubb.

1416
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: Bishop an absolutely brutal loss for Cincinnati. They weren't going

1417
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: to make the postseason anyway, but they were trying to

1418
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 3: have hope, fun and meaningful games in December. They led

1419
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 3: this game the whole way and watched it in there

1420
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter they were borrow with a couple

1421
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 3: of picks in this one. Allen was pretty unbelievable. Twenty

1422
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: three to twenty eight, two fifty one, three touchdowns, no picks.

1423
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 3: He was the best player on the field. The thing

1424
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 3: with Cincinnati, though, is so there's a lot going on

1425
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: off the field there. The Higgins stuff where he's gets

1426
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 3: hit plays and now is in concussion protocol. The Hendrickson

1427
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 3: staves back in concussion protocol, Oh yeah, oh yeah, and

1428
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: he kind a touchdown like at the end of the game, that's.

1429
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah.

1430
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 3: The Trey Hendrickson stuff where now he's going to need

1431
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: abdominal surgery, where he kind of delayed that for weeks

1432
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 3: and now he's going to get it. So he's done.

1433
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 3: So his career's over there, but he'll healthy in six weeks.

1434
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: Like the timing of that's not lost on anybody down there.

1435
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 3: And Burrows comments postgame were very pointed. He usually isn't

1436
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 3: as direct when it comes to frustration, as he was

1437
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: after this one. So they don't have much they can do.

1438
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 3: They kind of are what they are. But it's the

1439
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 3: first time that And I've known him since he was

1440
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 3: a I mean known him. I've covered him since he

1441
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 3: was a freshman in high school. I don't recall ever

1442
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 3: hearing him talk like the way he talked after the

1443
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 3: game Sunday.

1444
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 5: He can have to get out of there.

1445
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 8: They're going to waste his whole operation.

1446
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 4: Late window games, the Denver Broncos take down the Raiders.

1447
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 4: Raiders hung around twenty four to seventeen the final score,

1448
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 4: and the Broncos improved to eleven and two.

1449
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 5: Zeger As I said, we were lucky we had seven

1450
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 5: on this one. I know that that was not the

1451
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 5: final line. I know that it was seven and a half.

1452
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 5: When you look at what happened at the end of

1453
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 5: that game, yeah, there's there's there were officials that were

1454
01:09:59,240 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 5: helping it.

1455
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, seriously, like I'm not

1456
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 3: being funny, not scores, please, how is the NFL not

1457
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 3: investigating the end of this game?

1458
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 5: I really don't know. Pete Carroll can hide behind the

1459
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 5: logic that we needed a field goal, So we're gonna

1460
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 5: get the field goal, tried on side kick it and

1461
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 5: then throw hell Mary, I get that, But like, there

1462
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 5: was a lot of weird things that happened to the end.

1463
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 3: They're sure was. They're sure was, and there's there was

1464
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 3: a reason for the longest time that no sports leagues

1465
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 3: wanted to be in Las Vegas because he didn't want

1466
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: any part of anything. And to have this happen with

1467
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: the Vegas team where I mean, nobody in the league

1468
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: does that.

1469
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 5: No, but it was also there was after the one

1470
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: play the refs, they's like stop the clock for I.

1471
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 3: Know that doesn't make any sense to like enable a

1472
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 3: I mean to yeah, no it. Yeah, I think it's fishy.

1473
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it'll be anything that anybody knows about,

1474
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: but I have to imagine it's being looked at.

1475
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I can pick it looked pretty good. Eight of

1476
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 5: eleven ninety seven in a touch.

1477
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: Did he really? I didn't even see him in the game.

1478
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 5: He was the quarterback at the end.

1479
01:10:57,439 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 7: I guess I didn't pay that was Kelly because Gino

1480
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 7: left no left of the shoulder.

1481
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, came with pretty Yeah, I did well.

1482
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 4: America's Game of the week the Bears beat the Packers

1483
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 4: in Green Bay.

1484
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: No, no, they did not beat the Packer opposite Packers

1485
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: beat the Bears.

1486
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,520
Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, well that's wrong on NFL dot com.

1487
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 5: Shuck, I mean it's wrong.

1488
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: Won We literally took that off of the NFL's website,

1489
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 4: NFL dot com. What we tasted it now? Packers twenty

1490
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 4: eight Bears twenty one. I listened to the end of

1491
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: this game driving home on the Bears radio network.

1492
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 5: They had Jordan love Is flat out ball and making

1493
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 5: big time throws. Caleb Williams made a good decision at

1494
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 5: the end, just did not execute, didn't put enough on

1495
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 5: the pass and throws the interception. But you know, all

1496
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 5: of a sudden, the Packers are getting healthy. Jayden Reid

1497
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 5: was was finally back in this game, and they used

1498
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 5: him four catches thirty. He's only going to get, I think,

1499
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 5: more and more involved as.

1500
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 3: It goes on.

1501
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 5: So now they've got Red, They've got Watson is healthy

1502
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 5: right now and we know he can run. If they

1503
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 5: had Tucker Craft. I mean, this team I think might

1504
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: be the best team in the NFC, obviously with what

1505
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 5: Mica brings to that defense and everything they're doing there.

1506
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 5: But this is they're good and that was a statement

1507
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 5: ish Win.

1508
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: I think what I forgot that Johnson upon hiring with Chicago,

1509
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: so I forgot about that. He said it's fun beating

1510
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: the Packers twice a year, Like I forgot he did

1511
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Speaker 3: all of that.

1512
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 5: It was a quick handshake.

1513
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Laflora was that and I took that personally. Was

1514
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: Peter Lafleur on that one? Yeah, Green Bacon win the

1515
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? We thought so at the beginning of the year,

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: and there was a lull mid season where they were

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01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 3: kind of fine in their way. Well they found it now.

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01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 4: Yep, it's a long, long season. It is. Let's see

1519
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 4: if we get this one right. Rams forty five Cardinals seventeen.

1520
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: H's a girl. One thought.

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 5: This was an absolute beating from the Rep Jump Street,

1522
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 5: just a complete annihilation. I think the Rams and Sean

1523
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 5: McVay were saying, Okay, what happened against Carolina, we cannot

1524
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 5: let happen in this game just to beating efficient dominance.

1525
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 5: Blake Korum the guy that I really liked coming out

1526
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 5: and I thought that he was going to end up

1527
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 5: taking over for Kirraen Williams. It hasn't happened, but he

1528
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 5: is really starting to hit his stride. They ran the ball.

1529
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 5: They're three running backs because even rivers got in at

1530
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 5: the end of it. But their top two running backs

1531
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 5: ran twenty five times for two hundred and twelve yards

1532
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: and three touchdowns. Puka delivers every single week. This was

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01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 5: the first time DeVante Adams hasn't scored in I want

1534
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 5: to say at least sent a minute one, two, three,

1535
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 5: four or five six games. Last time he didn't score

1536
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 5: was on October twelfth against the Ravens.

1537
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:58,839
Speaker 3: Jeez, that amazing.

1538
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 5: Vonte Adams has not scored in four games this year,

1539
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 5: so that's it.

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01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 3: It's like a red zone He's like a red zone

1541
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: special machine. Matt Stafford's line in this is basically how

1542
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: his season is gone, except for the game in Carolina,

1543
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 3: which is just utterly even more stupefying based on this result, yep,

1544
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 3: twenty two to thirty one, two eighty one nine point

1545
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: one in attempt, three touchdowns, no picks, rating of one

1546
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 3: thirty one point two. That's what he's done.

1547
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: All ye good.

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: This was, by the way, this was the easiest one

1549
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: of all of the games to pick this one, and

1550
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 3: this was a big number, not a second of hesitation

1551
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: how this was going to go?

1552
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 4: Might be time just like in Atlanta for a little

1553
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 4: house cleaning and Arizona.

1554
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 5: By the way, can we also just wonder about this

1555
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 5: Michael Wilson third round pick in twenty twenty three for them? Okay, yep,

1556
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 5: he's been like a solid player, you know, five hundred

1557
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 5: and fiftyish yards, four touchdowns, sure, but never really like

1558
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 5: blew up his last four games fifteen for one eighty five,

1559
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 5: ten for one eighteen. Then he has a three for

1560
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: thirty six and then eleven for one forty two and two.

1561
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 3: Where'd it come from?

1562
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 5: Where did it come from? And maybe should this guy

1563
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,839
Speaker 5: have been playing more often and getting those kind of targets.

1564
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 5: He had never had a one hundred yard game prior

1565
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: to this stretch. He had never had a game in

1566
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 5: which he had received ten targets prior to this stretch.

1567
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,839
Speaker 5: In the three games in which he's received ten targets

1568
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 5: in his NFL career, he has picked up one hundred

1569
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 5: and eighty five, one hundred and forty two, and one

1570
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 5: hundred and eighteen. So that's what two sixty four forty

1571
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 5: five he has four hundred. He's aage one hundred and

1572
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 5: fifty yards and basically a touchdown a game. Crazy, like

1573
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 5: that's better than any three game stretch Marvin Harrison's had.

1574
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been tough for

1575
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: Marv out there, and I think they're going to have

1576
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: a very interesting offseason with Kyler and what they do

1577
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 3: with all that. Well he's got I know, but like

1578
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 3: how they are, how do they do it? How do

1579
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,560
Speaker 3: they manage it? Because he's under contract, so how do

1580
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 3: they trade it? What do they eat? It's going to

1581
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: be fascinating.

1582
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 4: Final one Sunday Night football. It was the Texans down

1583
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: in Kansas City twenty to ten. Folks, let me give

1584
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: you the final four games for the Houston Texans home

1585
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 4: versus Arizona home versus Vegas on the road at the

1586
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 4: Chargers home versus the Colts. Yeah that things are looking

1587
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 4: up in Houston, Bobo.

1588
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're I mean, they're great. Their defense is nuts.

1589
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: The this is the This was the death of the

1590
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs. Yep, that's what this was. This was

1591
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: the final nail on the coffin. They're cooked now. Mahomes

1592
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 3: was so bad in this one fourteen to thirty three

1593
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 3: one sixty three picks.

1594
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 5: I mean he's never one of them was off of Kelsey.

1595
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 5: Kelsey had one catch for eight yards.

1596
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 3: Kelsey was involved in just two. I mean, he's finally

1597
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 3: we love him good Cleveland, boy love it, but boy

1598
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: not it anymore. It's this is Houston is really good.

1599
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 3: They've been ascending their defense as nuts. But this is

1600
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,799
Speaker 3: really about the end of an era and a dynasty

1601
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 3: because they played in the FC Championship game every year

1602
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 3: since eighteen.

1603
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: Seeing the empty seats in the second quarter at Arrowhead Wild,

1604
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: just I what does that final month look like?

1605
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1606
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 3: They need to figure out what mahomes? What? Yeah, what

1607
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 3: happened here?

1608
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 4: That is one thought from every game in Week fourteen

1609
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 4: of the National Football League.

1610
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 3: All Right, Dylan Samson at the podium. Coming up nextuals

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Speaker 3: Here is Brown's Okay running back Dylan Samson.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Dylan, we heard from Kevin Stefanski today that he

1622
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 12: has named Shador Sanders the starter for the final four

1623
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 12: games of the season. And I'm just wondering what impact

1624
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 12: does that have on you personally and maybe you know

1625
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 12: you guys just as a football team.

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01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 6: I mean, we're still going to go and prepare the

1627
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 6: same way we've been preparing, Like how he's being named

1628
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 6: the start of these past two games. We're such a

1629
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 6: all we have is this week, you know, so we're

1630
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 6: just gonna prepare, like you know, we've been prepared and just.

1631
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 12: What I know, I talked to you a little bit

1632
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 12: about this yesterday, but just what have you seen Where

1633
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 12: have you seen the most growth in him over the

1634
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 12: past three starts.

1635
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 6: Just you know, him getting comfortable within the scheme and stuff.

1636
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 6: But I feel like mainly just building the chemistry with

1637
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 6: you know, just our offense, our skill players.

1638
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 9: You know, our offensive line.

1639
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 6: I could see that growing day in day out at

1640
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 6: practice and you can see it showing up.

1641
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 9: In the game bill.

1642
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 13: And you mentioned that the chemistry on the offense for

1643
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 13: you guys in the in the run game. How have

1644
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 13: you seen maybe in games that the run game isn't

1645
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,639
Speaker 13: able to get going? And you enter that next week

1646
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 13: of preparation, how do you see you guys kind of

1647
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 13: working together to try to try to build on that,

1648
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 13: to try to find maybe blocking lanes for you guys

1649
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 13: to create some of that chemistry to improve within the

1650
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 13: next week.

1651
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it just starts with the preparation.

1652
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 6: You know, have to you know, dissect Chicago's film and

1653
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 6: you know, really see what they do well and kind

1654
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 6: of what they lack against, and just taking every practice

1655
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 6: and every day intention, you know, meeting with the old line,

1656
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 6: making sure we're all on the same point. You know,

1657
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 6: when it gets time to Sunday, it's just you know,

1658
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 6: about effort and physicality and we have full trust that

1659
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 6: collectively will be able to do that.

1660
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 13: How big of a challenge then, is it, too? When

1661
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 13: you know all the all the injuries to the offensive line,

1662
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 13: Ethan Posick out for the season now and the kind

1663
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 13: of the change of tackles and guard How difficult is

1664
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 13: that chemistry and and what does that look like for

1665
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 13: you guys as you have swapped in offensive linement trying

1666
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 13: to work with them.

1667
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, nobody ever wants to see like an injury, you know.

1668
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 9: Like Poe's.

1669
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 6: You know, I pray that you know he heals up,

1670
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 6: you know, and you know in great time and quickly.

1671
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 6: But definitely, playing that oline position is a hard position

1672
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 6: to play, you know, especially that center position. You know,

1673
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 6: you kind of lead the charge, you make the calls,

1674
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 6: you know, and you bring all.

1675
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 9: Those guys together.

1676
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 6: So those five up front, you know, it's one of

1677
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 6: the only positions who don't about during the game. So

1678
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 6: it's a testament to the chemistry that you build, and

1679
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 6: you build from off season to the season, you know.

1680
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 6: So it's a physical position. It's a you have to

1681
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 6: be smart to play that position. But you know, this

1682
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 6: is this is the league. You know you're gonna deal

1683
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 6: with injuries, and you know, now it's time for guys

1684
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 6: to you know, step up and you know, take advantage

1685
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 6: of their opportunity.

1686
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 9: And we have full confidence that they will.

1687
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 14: Hey, Dylan, I know we talked to you yesterday about

1688
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 14: that next playment you have after a play like the fumble,

1689
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 14: and then you come back and you know, next Drive

1690
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 14: have some successful games, but like Quinn Shawn, since you've

1691
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 14: worked so much with him, when there's that moment with

1692
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 14: the wildcat, it doesn't work out at the end of

1693
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 14: the game like that, Like, how are you trying to

1694
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 14: pick him up as somebody you've spent a lot of

1695
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 14: time with and handling a moment like that.

1696
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 6: I think sometimes you know, it's just when you develop

1697
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 6: connections with players, you know. I mean, he's the type

1698
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 6: of person where you know, sometimes you don't need to

1699
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 6: say anything, you know. I know that moment kind of

1700
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 6: hurt because it was almost like there is no like

1701
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 6: next play mentality you know with that play But all

1702
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 6: you can do is come in the next day and

1703
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 6: you know, you you you let everybody know that we

1704
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 6: got your back, you know, the same way my teammates

1705
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 6: did with me. You know, nobody wants to mess up,

1706
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 6: you know, nobody. You know, we don't like do this intentionally.

1707
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 6: You know it's going to happen. You know, plays are

1708
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 6: going to be made, so you know, now it's about

1709
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 6: just adjusting and bouncing back this week, you know, and

1710
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 6: Quen shine, Like we build that relationship where you know,

1711
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 6: I know what it is with him, you know he

1712
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 6: know what it is with me. So we lift each

1713
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 6: other up, and you know, we just keep making sure

1714
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 6: we're ready to go mentally and physically.

1715
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,879
Speaker 14: And then just for you in the past game yesterday,

1716
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 14: I know you caught five of six targets, and you've

1717
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 14: had other games like that where you catch like all

1718
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,919
Speaker 14: your targets or all but one of your targets.

1719
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 11: Can you just talk about.

1720
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 14: Your your connection with Shador on some of those plays.

1721
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 14: And you know you've talked before about when you went

1722
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 14: through that stretch of not getting a ton of touches,

1723
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 14: how important it is for you to capitalize when they

1724
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 14: come your way.

1725
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know.

1726
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 6: So it's it's a fine line you got to walk

1727
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 6: because you don't want to make yourself feel too much

1728
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 6: pressure or make the moment bigger than what it is.

1729
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 9: You know, it just goes back to routine. You know.

1730
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 6: If there's certain routes that I have in a game

1731
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 6: plan and certain things that I know we practice on.

1732
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 6: Shador pulled me after practice and we work on them,

1733
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 6: you know, work on the landmarks, work on the different looks,

1734
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 6: you know, and so when it comes in the game,

1735
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 6: it's just a routine thing when we get the look

1736
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 6: that we want, you know, it's something we practice.

1737
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 14: You know.

1738
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 9: He talks in the huddle.

1739
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 6: He talks to me when we get out the huddle,

1740
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 6: you know, like go in, go in on this route,

1741
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 6: I got you, you know, and stuff like that.

1742
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 9: You know.

1743
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 6: So I mean we got somebody like that. It's like

1744
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 6: you got to make a play, you know. So it's

1745
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,600
Speaker 6: definitely nice having that, But it's just due to the

1746
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 6: work that we put in prior to game day.

1747
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 11: Hey hey, Dian, how would you chart your own progress

1748
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 11: through thirteen games? Now?

1749
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 9: You know, I could definitely see consistent growth.

1750
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 4: You know.

1751
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 6: It's been an up you know, kind of up and

1752
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 6: down by battle kind of throughout the middle of the

1753
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 6: stretch of the season with playing time and stuff. But

1754
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 6: I could definitely, you know, feel me getting my you

1755
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 6: just my feet and the ground, getting more comfortable in

1756
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 6: this league, you know. And I'm continuing to grow with

1757
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 6: each and every game, you know. So I'm learning from

1758
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 6: the positives and the negatives.

1759
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 4: You know.

1760
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 9: So I think I'm definitely trending in the right.

1761
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 11: Direction and then to pick up and the blocking that

1762
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 11: we don't concentrate on. How's that improved for you?

1763
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 6: I think when I do get an opportunity to either

1764
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 6: help Chip or pick up Blitz or recognize Blitz, you know,

1765
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 6: it's not a problem. You know, I'm gonna go in

1766
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 6: there and get my all to make sure that that

1767
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 6: person doesn't touch our quarterback.

1768
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 15: Hey, Dylan, you know we've the rookie classes. I've said,

1769
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 15: such a huge impact, but there's been ups and downs.

1770
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 15: We sow some of those yesterday. Do you think that's

1771
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 15: just natural that there's gonna be growing pains when you're

1772
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 15: playing as many rookies as you guys are.

1773
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 9: Yes, it's definitely.

1774
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 6: I mean, you you have at one point on the

1775
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 6: field all the skilled players or rookies besides Jerry Judy.

1776
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 6: I mean, but I don't think there's any other team

1777
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 6: whose rookies are contributing as much as this, just collectively. So,

1778
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, coaches understand it, but you know

1779
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 6: it's not an excuse.

1780
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 9: You know, we go to practice, we go to work.

1781
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 6: You know, it's time to grow, you know, and I

1782
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 6: believe that is what we're doing. You know, we week out,

1783
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 6: you know, but we got each other back, and we

1784
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 6: just gonna keep on growing and climbing, you know, and

1785
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 6: continue trying to impact this team in a positive way.

1786
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 15: You know, you hear that phrase, he's not a rookie

1787
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 15: anymore because he's been in the league, you know, because

1788
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 15: it's weak whatever. Do you still feel like a rookie

1789
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 15: though out there?

1790
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 6: I never even tried to, like feel like that. I

1791
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 6: just always felt like a football player, just trying to

1792
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 6: learn and it, you know, take my game to another level.

1793
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 6: And that's all it is, you know. I mean, even

1794
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 6: if you know it's not a whole bunch of rookies

1795
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 6: out there, you know, it's still other other people who

1796
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 6: are liable to make those same mistakes, you know, who've

1797
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 6: been in the league.

1798
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 9: For six years, seven years.

1799
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 4: You know, it's.

1800
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 6: Football, and ultimately it comes down to, you know, did

1801
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 6: you make the play when you needed to make the play?

1802
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 6: You know, that's the difference between a lot of these

1803
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 6: close games. And I believe we will continue to grow

1804
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 6: in that area and make those plays and I give

1805
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 6: up those negative plays, you know when they need to happen.

1806
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 3: Alright, good stuff from Dylan, and they're so much more

1807
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,240
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Speaker 3: In the National Football League, the other as ridiculous they

1818
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 3: were buys last week was absurd. Yeah, crazy for the

1819
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 3: last week. By the way, Beams Beamsy's league. Yeah, they

1820
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: did their championship last week. I go, what do you do?

1821
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

1822
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: And then I realize I'm talking to a twelve year old,

1823
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 3: But I'm like, what what are we doing? Why do

1824
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: we have championship?

1825
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 5: Are there be a champion?

1826
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,879
Speaker 4: How do you even how do you even have that program?

1827
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 5: What if you had a team that had Drake May

1828
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, mill probably.

1829
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:14,839
Speaker 3: Did he finished second doesn't have to wear the outfit.

1830
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 4: There's no shame. There's no shame, no there.

1831
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 5: It was a pretty shame in the way this league

1832
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 5: was put together.

1833
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: It is the pretty aggressive league rules. For those who

1834
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 3: don't recall, the penalty for finishing last was you had

1835
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:33,559
Speaker 3: to go to school in uh leggings? Yeah, as a boy,

1836
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 3: which is would be crazy to do. I will say

1837
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: I did.

1838
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 4: Outside the box thinking there.

1839
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 5: Was the first year at Emery. I think I've told

1840
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 5: this story. I first year at Emory for Dooley's Ball,

1841
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 5: which was our big Halloween party. Okay, campus, I was

1842
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 5: Robin Hood, Okay, and I was a man in tights?

1843
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 3: I bet you were Were you which Robinhood? Were you

1844
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: the man in tights version? Were you Costner's Robin Hood? Now?

1845
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 5: I was more, I was more Errol Flynn. Oh you

1846
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 5: went er Flynn old school a little more erl Flynn. Yeah,

1847
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 5: that's an old school.

1848
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1849
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: Tights, Robin of Locksley, the tights were something they were

1850
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 3: that was a scene.

1851
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 5: Man, there was a scene that was a scene.

1852
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 3: A scene they don't do. Is there any Robin Hood

1853
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 3: content anymore? Is the best series ever? That's serious, It's

1854
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: just series is very good. Yeah, I think there is something.

1855
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: There's something on one of the streamers that even a

1856
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 3: Russell Crowe, Robinhood I wanted that one was no good.

1857
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,759
Speaker 3: Coster One is. He got Morgan Freeman, you got Christian Slater.

1858
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 3: Coster One is absurdly flawed. But it's a fun watch.

1859
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the series is the best, that series

1860
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 5: that I was, that was that used to be on

1861
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 5: Showtime way back in the day. It's Robin of Loxley

1862
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 5: maybe that show the Now we're.

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01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 4: Back, now, we're back.

1864
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 3: Oh Red Bottles, nothing to see nothing he is he

1865
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: worried about salt.

1866
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 4: Nah, buy a new pair.

1867
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 5: A new pair.

1868
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 3: He's draper for the modern era.

1869
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 5: He's one. He's figured it out, sorted out. I'd like

1870
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 5: to have it sorted out.

1871
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I do think there is a series.

1872
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 4: There is something coming out. I know the other day.

1873
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 3: Rickman going from from that where he's pretty great, He's fantastic.

1874
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: He's so good in that that to die Hard, that's

1875
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,839
Speaker 3: pretty great, like he Hans Gruber. Yeah, he totally switched

1876
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 3: what bad guys were in die Hard.

1877
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 4: Why do you want to cut the heart out with

1878
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 4: a spoon because.

1879
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 5: So good, so that facial when he's falling. Yeah, they

1880
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 5: had him I saw like a behind the scenes thing

1881
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 5: on it. So they had him held there, and then

1882
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 5: they never told him when they were going to drop him,

1883
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 5: so that when they dropped him, it was like a

1884
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 5: natural reaction of his face being like, you know, your

1885
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 5: body would have whatever the natural reaction was. So that's

1886
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 5: how they they get that look on his face. I mean,

1887
01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 5: he's thinking about the holidays. He's Hans grueber Love actually period.

1888
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Although little nefarious, Yeah.

1889
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 5: Dark, what is it for dark deeds? It's involved in

1890
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,599
Speaker 5: some dark deeds. Unfortunately, they're just so dumbed to buy that.

1891
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 3: Just a bozo move, we do it.

1892
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about that world, but my mind

1893
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 5: would tell me there'd be better ways to go about

1894
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 5: what he was.

1895
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 3: Attempting to do, which he should not have been doing.

1896
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,679
Speaker 3: We don't condon which then made it a thousand times

1897
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 3: worse because he didn't actually do anything. No, he didn't,

1898
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 3: but he got all the all the trouble for it.

1899
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 5: Yeah right, which was he he bungled that big lee

1900
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 5: And then he's sever Snape in the Harry Potter series. Yeah, great,

1901
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 5: run there, he's he's in one of the great parodies.

1902
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 5: Here's a movie that does not around nearly as much

1903
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 5: as it should be. Galaxy quest Yeah, Galaxy Questions, great movie.

1904
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 5: It's an unbelievable movie.

1905
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 3: Yeah that is. You don't never see it.

1906
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 5: You also don't see a lot of Starship Troopers, which

1907
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 5: is a great movie which actually has a message.

1908
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 7: It's quite relevant.

1909
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: Quite red.

1910
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: Also, I think the lead in that is a Casper

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01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: Van Dean, and I think he was the only one

1912
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 3: who didn't really it wasn't in on joke. Yeah, everybody

1913
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 3: else hear what was going on.

1914
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 5: But he was not aware of it. At Denise Richards,

1915
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 5: she was.

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Speaker 3: Throwing one hundred and eight painting the pain in the

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