WEBVTT - Ep. 142 - Juli Inkster 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.600 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:10.000 Shane Bacon, and this week we have a Hall of 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.160 Famer Julie Ankster, one of my favorite people in all 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.040 of golf, talk some Solheim Cup a couple of months 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:19.200 after talk about her golf game and just open to 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:21.040 some issues. It was. It was a lot of fun 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.480 and I asked her at the end, have you figured 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.640 out golf? Do you know the secret? And you'll have 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.680 to listen and hear the answer. Does she have the 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.400 secret to the game or is she still searching for 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:35.199 that secret? This week's Clubhouse Podcast, as all of the 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.120 Clubhouse podcasts, are brought to you by my good friends 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.720 at titlist, and this week I'm gonna talk to you 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.000 about the pro v one. The pro v one and 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.800 the pro Vo one X have been redesigned for more 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.720 speed which is awesome, more precision, very helpful, and more 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.320 consistency than ever before. And if you're gonna compare the two, 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.680 the pro v one has a softer feel and a 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.720 lower flight than the pro v one X. The pro 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.360 v one X has a higher flight with more spin 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.680 and a firmer feel. That's the golf ball that I play. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:07.319 Both models continue to provide proven drop and stop greenside control, 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:12.320 lasting durability and unsurpassed quality and both and this is 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.959 what I love. Both now available in yellow. I've been 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.679 playing the yellow pro v one X for months. I 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.760 just got back from Bannon Dunes. I had my entire 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.800 bags stocked of the yellow pro Vy one x. Nobody 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.400 else in my group, none of my buddies brought a 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.640 yellow golf ball. I always knew which one was mine, 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.600 always if it was in a fair way of bunker 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:36.200 green wherever. You know which golf ball is yours. I 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.720 love the yellow golf ball. I am not switching back 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.920 anytime soon. And the good people of titlists they printed 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.560 bacon on the side of my yellow titleist two's and 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:47.800 I'm a fan of them. I don't have to put 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:49.880 I don't even have to put a sharpie marker on them. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.520 That's how awesome. The yellow pro v one X is 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.760 a sevent thinner cover and a larger casing layer create 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.400 the fastest pro V one and pro v one x 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.000 yet check those out. Give the yellow a try. Do 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.960 it for me. I mentioned coming back from band and Dunes, 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.960 got a chance to play the Sheep Ranch. Nine holes 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.400 on that golf course. It's opening next year. It's gonna 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.200 be awesome. It's it's already awesome, mind you. It is 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.639 going to be, in my opinion, a top ranked golf 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.720 course at Bandon Dunes. I think anybody that's gonna get 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:21.400 a chance to play it or see it in pictures 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.600 is gonna agree with me. I mean, it's just the 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.320 piece of property. It's on the ocean. Views, how many 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.760 greens are on the ocean, the places meant. We had 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.760 an unbelievable time, as we always do. Abandon Dun's, got 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.680 a chance to an NFL game last weekend, did Bucks 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:37.240 at Titans on the sideline. Definitely a different speed than 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.680 doing golf tournaments. A lot of fun anytime I get 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.079 a chance to do another sport. But yeah, we're we're 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.280 in that time of year in golf where there's certain 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:49.040 golf events on TV, but not it doesn't consume your day. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.040 And then we'll obviously roll into the President's Cup. This 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.359 weekend at my country club, Phoenix Country Club is the 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.520 end of the Champions Tour, the Charles Schwab Finale. I'm 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.160 gonna go out there a couple of days and get 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:00.760 a chance to check it out out. The golf courses 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.880 in great shape. The greens are ridiculous. We played it 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.799 in an event the club had on Friday where we 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.600 all got to go out there and and and smack 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.120 it around. And I'm telling you, I'm not sure I've 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.720 ever seen greens as smooth as the Phoenix Country Club. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.680 Green's all right now, So check that out. I know 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.200 it's on TV this weekend and that's enough for me. 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.920 Let's get to Julie Inkster and we welcome back into 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.240 the clubhouse. It's been a while, Julie Inkster, the Hall 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.320 of Famer of course, Uh, a busy year. I was 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.280 thinking you are part of the announcing team with us 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.600 at Fox. You still play in a I'd say, I 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:35.840 don't know half a dozen dozen of events. You had 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.640 a Solheim Cup captaincy this season. Are you finally getting 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.160 to kind of relax and chill. Yeah, it's actually been. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.520 It's been very nice. Um you know, I'm not playing 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:49.640 much right now and Solheim done. Um it Fox, I'm 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.280 I'm actually trying to find things to do during the 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.840 day when when you're I mean, you did that, you 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.960 were a captain for the Solheim Cup three times. And 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.600 I was around you early in the summer midsummer and 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.280 then as you got closer and closer to having to 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:08.600 make picks. How much time a week when it's a 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.480 Solheim Cup year are you spending just doing stuff, researching, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.040 looking at how you know people are playing, having to 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.440 do interviews and conference calls. How busy are you? Well, UM, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.839 the year after the Solheim you're not too busy. You 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:27.520 do uniforms and and stuff like that. But UM, leading 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.960 up to the Solheim every day you're kind of checking 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.880 in with UM. I have a main guy named Dave 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.599 Dennis Begett who works for the LPGA and he runs 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:41.839 the Soulheim So he and are constantly UM talking each day. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:47.600 You know, whether it's UM, you know, UM lunch menus daniem, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.799 dinner menus, UM you know what time do you guys 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.200 want to have lunch? UM? Practice schedule? Do you guys 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.960 want to go first? You want to go second, off 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.560 the front, off the back. Just this constant stuff that 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.560 UM behind the scenes that no one really looks at. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.919 And we go over a year before and do like 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.960 a site check. Uh, so you know you check out 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.360 the golf course. You check out the locker rooms. Um, 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.440 you know, are we staying on campus? Um? Or are 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.920 we staying off site? Uh So stuff like that. Logistics, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.920 you know, buses, cars, so stuff like that. But it's 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 it's all fun. I mean, it's really like I call 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.440 it like planning a wedding, Like six months out you 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.359 have to do this, you know, five monthsality you have 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.320 to do that. So um and being my third time 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.200 and I kind of knew what to expect. Well, we're 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.719 a couple of months removed from it. I mean, obviously, 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.359 I know you would have liked the finale to finish 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.960 a little bit differently. But when you look back at 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.640 it as a golfer, as a golf fan, as a 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.480 fan of women's golf, as someone that has competed and 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.920 obviously captained in Solheim Cuffs in the past, it has 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.600 to be one of the most exciting finishes, not just 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.640 in Solon Cup history, but in golf history. I mean, 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.760 to have a putt. I think the put that Suzanne made. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.760 I feel like people don't totally understand that it was 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.680 a make and you win, missing you lose put. I mean, 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.400 there wasn't any in between ground and for that to 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.320 kind of conclude the Solheim Cup. I mean again, I 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.560 know you wanted the USA to walk away with a trophy, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:22.400 but it was an unbelievable event, especially late in that Sunday. Yeah, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.800 I have no regrets. I mean my team played the 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.800 heart out, um, you know, and for Suzanne it was 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:31.279 it was you know, she makes they win to she 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:35.360 misses they lose. And you know, and that's the thing 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.800 with um, the Ryder Cup of the Solheim Cup. It's 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.880 not about the money. I mean, okay, you make you 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.800 win the tournament, and she celebrates. I mean you saw 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:51.360 when she made it that put. Um, how everybody celebrates. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.120 It's a team event and that's what's what to special 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.760 about the Solheim Cup and the Ryder Cup is you know, 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.160 you're not playing for yourself, You're playing for the US 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.480 and next to you. And yes, I mean we I 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.760 would have loved to win, but um, I have no regrets. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.880 My team played their heart out. I mean we had 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.920 six rookies and three first time players that were playing 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.320 overseas for the first time in Solheim Cup. I thought 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.840 they played great, um, And it was great for women's golf. Yeah, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.600 it was. It was so exciting it, and you obviously 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.760 are are so focused on certain matches. You're driving around, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.560 you're bouncing between certain people, you're talking, you know, you're 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.680 motivating certain players that need it. Maybe you're you're just 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.600 kind of talking to other players that might need it. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.600 During the matches. As someone that was watching, you know, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.760 simply on my couch, there was a moment that just 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.160 kind of flipped and it was really really late where 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.600 I was I was thinking, you know, USA has got this, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.040 USA has got this, USA has got this, and there 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.800 was just this quick moment where I went, wait a minute, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.920 you know, Europe might actually win this. Did you have 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.040 something similar out on the golf course. Was there a 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.840 field that the momentum was kind of changing or was 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.880 it just a couple of matches late flipped? Yeah, a 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.040 couple of in the matches late, but I mean, I 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.040 I mean, I think it was close, um pretty much 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.000 all day. You know, there was a couple of matches 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.800 that we're going to go US USA way, no no doubt. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.440 And there's a couple of matches that were gonna go 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:21.320 Yeurope's way, no doubt. So it was those in between 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.880 matches that were just close all the time, and it 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.800 was kind of Fronte Law and Alan McDonald's match that 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:33.240 really flipped. Um. I think on the fifteenth hole she 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.160 left in the bunker. Um, Fronte Law left in the 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.520 bunker and then ended up getting it up and down 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:42.640 making like a ten footer for bogey to tie Alley 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:47.440 and then she blready sixteen and that kind of flipped there. Um. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:53.160 The um Susanne Petterson match was always close, back and forth, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.120 back and forth. So and and the thing is, you know, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.280 I don't think anybody knows this. As a captain, I'm 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:04.240 the only one that can give advice. So um, someone 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.280 can call in and say, hey, can you come out 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.560 and talk to ANGELI in or hey, and I could 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.440 be this golf course was so spread out. I could 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.840 be on the front side and take me fifteen minutes 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.199 to get over on the other side. So um it 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.440 was there was a lot of logistic problems, but uh, um, yeah, 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.800 it slipped quick. But in match play, as you know, 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.920 it can flip. Yeah. I mean we we we get 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.160 a chance to cover you know, these amateur events together 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.240 throughout the summer, and I mean that that happens all 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.680 the time, and when we see it from the broadcast booth. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.760 You obviously, as you're saying, see it as a captain, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.719 you're one of the more competitive people I've ever met. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.280 I think that's fair to say. When you're in the 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.840 golf cart and you're watching these things, I mean, I 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.080 can only imagine you're itching to be out there playing 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:52.800 or wanting to hit a put. I mean, how hard 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.800 is that three years into being a captain, three captaincy 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.439 is in. When you're in this position, how hard is 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.079 it to kind of keep your emotions in check? Considering again, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.520 how how fire you've always been out on the golf course. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.080 It's hard. I mean it's hard. Um. You know, as 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.280 you know, golf is a really tough game, and you 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.440 put the pressure of being on the Solheim or the 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:21.080 Ryder Cup or whatever it is, and it's intensified. And 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.360 I've been there and I know how tough it is, um. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.120 But you know, watching um players, whether it be the 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.520 European team or the American team, you know, and you know, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.079 depends on the right and there's no way you can 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.080 miss it right. It's shortside yourself, and they miss it 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:40.120 right and you're like, oh my gosh, you just hit 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.520 the middle of the Green, you know, so stuff like that, 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.959 stuff like that. But I know, I believe me, I 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:51.840 know how tough it is, and so I would never ever, um, 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.839 you know, get down on anybody, whether you know they 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.680 had a good day or a bad day. Um, you know, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.760 I'm just I'm just there trying to moral support and 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.880 and really my job is to make it a fun week. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:09.800 And I think, um, we had probably the best loser 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.760 party ever that we've had. Um, I mean it was epic. 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.960 And um, you know, having six rookies on the team, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.200 they go okay, I can't even imagine if we won 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.480 what it was like. So, um, they have good memories 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.040 and that's what it's about. Yeah, I mean you you, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.679 you and I talked a lot about just the the 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.280 youth of this American team, and as you were going 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.520 into it, you were kind of eyeballing some of the 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.520 veterans that we're having good weeks or maybe we're trending 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.640 possibly in the direction of making the Solheim Cup team. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.960 When you have all these young players, I mean, are 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.040 you talking to other people in other sports that have 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:50.760 dealt with, you know, youthful programs before youthful organizations, or 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.440 you're talking to other captains that have worked in the 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.840 similar positions before, trying to find ways to make these 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.240 people as comfortable as possible because you know you're there 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:01.840 on the first team. I mean, Brad Faxton tells a 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.560 great story at the Walker Cup where his partner couldn't 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.560 even pull the trigger on the first tea and his 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.520 first ever Walker Cup team and Brad dad hit the 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.760 tea shot. I mean, it is a different type of pressure, 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.520 way different than a major championship or trying to win 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.960 an event for yourself. Well and Shane, everybody handles it different. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.920 You know. Some people say like a Daniel King, I 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.439 mean they reliship and they they want to be on 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.040 the first tea. Um, they want to be hitting the shot. Um. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.240 And then you know, everybody's personality is different. Everybody handles 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.839 it different. But I can kind of see what's in 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.000 their eyes, you know, if if they need a little 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:44.400 pep talk, and really, I mean you can tell them 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.679 what is going to happen, but until they experience it, 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:52.240 until they go through it, um, you know, you don't 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.040 you don't really know what to expect. I mean, had 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.800 a really good conversation with Marine Alex, who I thought 0:12:57.800 --> 0:12:59.959 I played great all week. M she was kind of 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.120 just under the radar but very consistent. Um. I played 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.240 her with more compressive for a couple of alternate shots. UM. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:13.520 And we were having breakfast and and uh, she goes, she's, UM, 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:20.040 this this golf is so much harder than individual golf. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.959 And I said it is. I said, but you realize 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.240 how much more you have in yourself when you play 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.120 in something like this, and how you can go to 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.040 the next level. And she goes, You're right, She says, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.920 I never knew that I could play like this, um, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.360 under this much pressure. And you do. You learn a 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.959 ton about yourself, whether it's you know, good or bad. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:51.000 And um, that's what the Fulham Cup brings out in players. Yeah. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.120 And and every time the soul Him Cup happens, I 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.080 feel like the l P g A and women's golf 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.800 gets a big boost and it's exciting. It's a must watch. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.040 If you like any sort of sport, you know, competitiveness 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.920 in any regard, you've got to watch it. What could 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.160 the LPG do, What could women's golf do to kind 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.439 of piggyback off of Solheim Cup so that they kind 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.160 of ride that momentum Wave for a couple of months 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.720 for you know, basically into the into the next season. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.040 Is there something they could do to kind of attach 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.200 themselves to the Solheim Cup and how many eyeballs are 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.000 on it to help push the tour a little bit more. Well, 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.360 the problem is it's like, you know, we have the 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.360 Solheim Cup and then I think they had a couple 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.120 of domestic and now they're over in Aga for four months, 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.520 four weeks, so they kind of lose a little momentum 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.800 on that, you know, especially being at the end of 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.360 the year. But um, I I really don't know. I 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.960 I think we're you know, we're a global tour and um, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:56.640 you know, over and Malaysia and Korea and Taiwan and Japan, 0:14:56.840 --> 0:15:00.240 women's golf is huge. I mean the crowds they all 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:06.680 over there is unbelievable. Um and you know over here, Yeah, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.080 I hate to say it, but you know, women's sports 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.360 is not valued like it is over in other countries. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.920 And you know, it's not only just golf, it's you know, basketball, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.680 it's um, you know, um hockey, it's you know other 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.120 sports that women play college sports all the way up 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:27.080 and then they get done and they got nowhere to go. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:32.800 So um, it's it's a slow processing, but I think 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.760 it's getting better, especially with the women's initiatives that are 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:40.200 coming out right now. Well, I wanted to ask you 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.120 for your memory. I know you've got a lot of them, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.360 but you've captained three teams and you also said you're 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.360 done what you said after Iowa, by the way, but 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.560 I actually believe you this time and say you're not 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.160 doing You're not doing this again. But is there a 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.160 memory that sticks out? I mean, you played in so 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.240 many Solheim Cups, and I always know how important that 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:02.040 that part of the competition was for you. You're a 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.200 captain three times, you went twice, you lose in this epic, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.200 epic finale across the pond. Is there a memory that 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.520 sticks out to you that you'll always carry with you 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:16.120 as a captain of Team USA, that you'll never forget. Well, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.920 I think the dinners at night are the things that 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.600 I will treasure. You know, a player standing up and talking. 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.800 I think probably one of the best times is my 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:34.560 first one over in Germany with Angelo Stanford and Christie 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:40.080 kerr Um. They weren't best of friends, um, two completely 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:47.360 different personalities, but they they really kind of bonded that 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:51.560 week and and really kind of sorted out why, um, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.360 why they've never really got along, and they finally understood 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.280 that they're just different personalities handle things different ways. And 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.520 Christie Kerr every day on the bus would get up 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:10.280 and read a quote from somebody and Angela was then 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:14.040 interpret the quote and it was it was pretty cool 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:19.280 to see two gals that really never got along, um 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:24.480 really uh learn to respect each other and respect um 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.400 how they go about different things. And that's something I'll 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:32.679 never forget. I I can only imagine two months after 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.639 this Solheim Cup wrapping up that you've probably had time 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.800 to kind of look into yourself at this point in 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.119 your career, because I mean, as I said, you were 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.560 an unbelievable Solen Cup player. What was your record as 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.239 an individual? Were you twelve and one? I don't know 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.720 it was good? Yeah, I only lost one to know that, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.320 but I don't know how. I think I was eight 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:58.320 and one, eight one, seven one and one A tyed 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.679 Laura Davis seven one one. So you know, you you 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.440 play in so many, you're a captain three times. You 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.879 kind of got a chance to see it all. Is 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.760 this going to be something that four or five years 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.800 from now that you're really really gonna miss or is 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.600 this something you think you'll always be you know, I 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.800 mean you know, if Captain's call you, or they need 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:19.920 advice or they want to help, you'll always kind of 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:23.080 be there to help out. No, it's something I'm gonna 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.479 miss definitely. Um, you know, I would definitely do it. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:30.159 I do it for the next you know whatever Solheims. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.879 But it's such a great experience that other people should 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.120 be able to experience it. And um, you know I've 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.119 kind of I've done it, and I think the Solheims 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.600 had a great place right now. And you know there's 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.280 there are the Christie you know, the path Hurst, the 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:51.240 Christie Kerr's, the Angelo Stanford's, Paula and Morrigan that are 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.439 are really in line now, you know, Michelle, we that 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.760 are in line to kind of do this now. And 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.200 there was kind of a gap where you know, um, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.720 you know Christie and Angela were playing and it wasn't 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.080 really anybody that was next in line. And I think 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.480 that's why, um they gave me an opportunity to do it. So, UM, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.720 I am gonna miss it, but I am also um 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:18.719 always going to be a big part of sohim. I mean, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.760 I won't miss one. I'll be over there. Um and uh, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.680 you know, hopefully they'll let me be a helper and 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:29.440 I can walk in the roads and uh watch a mattitude. 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.359 But uh, it's a big part of my life and 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:36.240 and it's something I'm proud of and and um, I'm 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.960 I've always been a team um kind of player. I 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.000 I grew up playing team sports, and um, it's kind 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.400 of funny I play an individual sports because I love 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.720 team sports so much. But uh, um, it's yeah, it 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:51.520 will definitely always be a big part of my my life. Yeah, 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.440 I mean I feel like you're I always say there's 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.199 two types of pros, you know, people that that have 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.320 played professional golf for decades. You know, there's the player 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.879 that had it. It was their job, it was what 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.200 they did, and once they're kind of done with it, 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.080 they don't part ways, but they're not passionate about playing still. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.840 And then there's the people like you who still play 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.199 and still grind and still look for the answer in 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.080 the secret to golf. And when I'm with you throughout 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:22.000 the summer, I mean, you're out there before the broadcast 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.399 with Brad Faxton on the putting green, going over stuff. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.719 You're always hitting range balls. You're I would say, you 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:32.480 kind of define what a golfer is because you've obviously 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.880 got the pedigree in the resume to back it up. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.720 But you're always searching, still at this point in your career, 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.320 to perfect your craft in your game, and and you're 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.000 still competing, You're still playing a lot of events. It's 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:49.040 it's still something that you do day to day. I 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.080 I I am so weird and I love the game golf, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.320 and you know it's it's weird. I mean a lot 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.920 of people, like you said, once they get done, they're dead, 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.720 they hit their last ball. They don't want to play, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.080 they don't want to compete. I love playing. I just 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:10.320 you know, it's weird. But I'll play with anybody as 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.879 long as they're fun. They have to be fun and 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:17.320 they like have to be able to banter. But you're right, 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.439 I like tinkering. I liked um. I think that um 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.879 the solidarity of just being on a range by yourself, 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.120 listen to some music. I mean really, I mean that's 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:33.480 a pretty cool office. And UM, I have no I 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:36.040 mean I look forward to getting up and going out 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:39.720 and hit ball. Yeah, it's it's fun too. It's fun. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.560 I I brag about our Fox Golf team a lot 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:46.160 because we have a group that really does enjoy each other, 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:50.280 and we enjoy not just on air and working and 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.960 preparing and getting set for the week, but you know, 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:55.800 we have a lot of fun off air. I mean, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.199