WEBVTT - 3X First-Team All-Pro Kick Returner Devin Hester Talks About Breaking Deion Sanders Record And Being On The NFL 100 All-Time Team 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:05.680 Are you ready for this? Jean Merriman A one hand 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:10.079 effeck boom boom boom, out go the light. This is 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.920 Lights Out with Sean Merriman. What's up, guys, Welcome to 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:18.600 another Lights Out podcast with me Seawan Merriman. And uh, 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:20.640 we got a great one today. When I mean great, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.200 one of the greatest guys who's ever done it? Um 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.919 part return to kickoff return to specialists. Throw him on 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.600 the offense side of the ball. I hate it. I 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.400 mean any defensive player let me tell you if you 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.879 don't hate this dude, to play against him because he's 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:37.279 so damn dynamic. Um. He has had so explosive, so 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.520 creative and just make you know something from nothing. Devin 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.479 Hester man one of the best kickoff return specialists, best 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:50.199 special teams guys ever. Uh, definitely is a Hall of 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.200 Famer when it's when it comes in time. Broke Dion 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.960 Sander's record. Uh, just so many different things and anyway 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.720 it's gonna be a good one. Devin Hester. You know 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.200 what school we're part of, the What part of the 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.320 world are you in right now? Man? In the Orlando 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:06.640 you're on the Lando. What what you got going on 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.200 down there? Um? Man, you gotta stay in on Orlando now, 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.840 so you know, just kind of just located here, settled down, man, 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:19.679 got kids going and school and all that, so making 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.880 it my home now. I would you know what's funny. 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.119 I was in Orlando probably about six months ago. Well 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.120 my boy Mojo, who uh who's in the w W E? 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.080 And so we're out there going around and everything was 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.480 wide open. This was like five Is this like five 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.640 months almost five months ago? Yeah? Yeah, that side, isn't 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:42.400 that pretty much? This one open? Now? Hey? So so 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.959 that's so you're down there for like permanently, right, because 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:46.800 I saw your kid. You were just telling your kids 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.400 when I when I seen that the first post that 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.840 social media uh video your son going viral, the first 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.760 thing I I saw my it's probably a couple of 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.960 years ago. I think it was. When I saw it, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.160 I said, man, this world got another another Devin Hester 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.960 like like, come on, it can't be no more. You 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.519 around like so many I'll tell you. That's when we 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:11.720 used to watch film and do all this, and week 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.920 you always you always gonna try to, you know, play 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.120 your best against the best, right, So you're like, okay, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.280 you told what he did the week before you're sitting 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.920 there watching like, Okay, he ain't doing that that, So 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.079 this is what we're gonna do. Man, we go out 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.720 there and still do this. Man, I ain't nobody got 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.680 no nobody got nothing to say with what Man, what 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.440 kind of stuff do you hear like over over the course, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.880 like when you came in uh in No. Six you 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.119 had I mean, you bawled out your rookie year. How 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.200 did how do people start looking at you and like 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.440 preparing for you now? Because then you already was on 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.880 the map. So at first no one knows about you. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.280 Then you know they you kind of get put on 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.080 the map, right man, I mean to prepare like like 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.440 what we did. Man. It it's when like film, film 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.799 tells a lot, you know, and when you watch film 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.239 and then you see the guys that you know what 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.040 I mean, hit him for twenty thirty yard point return. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.280 And then you look at the speed team United Black Man, 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.040 those guys you're hit him for twenty third yards they 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.280 didn't even have as good as we are. We're gonna 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.000 kill them. And so with that right there, it really 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.920 really motivated us when we play against because you at 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.200 the end of the day, when you watched you. You 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.560 can tell who has a good special team unit and 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.639 who has a terrible spec team unit. So I think 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.040 that right there alone. My my speed team coach Day 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.040 told man, you did a hell of a job man 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.919 preparing us man weekend and week out for that situation, 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.560 because you know, and you appreciate that respect, because I 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.000 know we had the respected just watching you. But you know, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.320 I go into games, I'm looking like, man, this this 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.720 dude is on another level. And I remember when you 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.640 when you broke Dion's record. Was he? Let me ask you, 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.840 because I always always say this, was he somebody that 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.400 you you like you wanted to breaking record? Did you 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.440 ever have it known? I was a person like when 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.640 I played ball, I didn't really look into a ruggers 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.520 until somebody mentioned it to me. Like it wasn't somethinghay 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.600 I googled every week. Okay, let's best most return yards? 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.560 Who has the most kickoff return touchdown? It was always 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.480 brought to me, so you know what I mean, Like 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:09.640 we have like you know, the guys that sold that 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.240 work in the office, They will come up to me 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.040 and say, hey, you know you four yards away shot 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:16.279 from moving up to the fifth place and most yards 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.520 are this week coming up. You know, if you have 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.359 you know what I mean, physicide yards, you break somebody 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.239 else rek. So I never really looked into it until 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:28.400 somebody brought it to my attention. So when they got 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.279 closer that time for the record for Den, it was 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.240 more so okay, you three now you three tonsdowns away 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:37.720 from it. So when they told me that fast when 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.880 it it starts settling, Okay, man, I'm getting closer and closer. Yeah, no, dude, No, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.000 The thing is no one really want to talk about 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.440 it and be saying okay, that's that's the guy looked 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.160 at and I want to break his record. And even 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.240 though it's not all about records, but I tell you 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.000 when I my first year, when I got to the 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.240 charges to Know five, all I heard is about Junior Say, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.800 you know, I just heard about out and I was like, man, 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.080 if I can do and break any kind of record 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.880 of Junior say I'll have around here, then I know 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.520 that's how I'm how I'm gonna be judged and looked at. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.600 So you know what I mean, Like you don't want 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.160 to go out and intentionally just say I'm trying to 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.240 break this Dow record. But you you couldn't help me. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.359 I got close. You're like, man, this Dion Sanders, you 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:21.160 know what I mean, Like, that's that's for us. Man. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:22.640 You know, at the end of the thing, you know, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.960 you as flayers, like Flair's that lovely game of football. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.159 Guys to him that that set the temple, Like we 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.520 honored up to those guys. Those guys are like the 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.839 Chilles and the Chores of the ancient world, you know 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.520 what I mean. So we we admire those type of guys. 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.560 So and your sis, your situation with Junior said, so 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.320 when you get closer, you know what I mean, accompanying 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.520 something that he had, it's amazing, it's big, you know 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.960 what I mean. So for me and in that situation 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.400 of breaking Dion, man, it was more so of the 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.400 relationship that we dealt that man. We did it, you 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.560 know what I mean. We put these these stats up 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.359 on the map, you know what I mean, and have 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.520 players him then at a young age trying to try 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.040 to achieve these these type of records. But at nd day, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.640 as a unit, Manda came together as as as one 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.560 and said, hey, we did it, you know what I mean, No, no, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.039 a hundred percent. And then the next step to be, 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.159 to be honest, since we're on that we're talking about 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.560 it is that is that jacket? You know what I'm saying, 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:22.599 Like the next thing is that? And for me, you know, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.640 when I retired and I got a chance to work 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.640 at the NFL Networks, my first like broadcasting gig when 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.000 I when I retired, and I remember sitting up there. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:34.160 I was up there with Dion Sanders, Michael Irvin, Marshall 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.560 Falk and uh and the l T. And the l 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.760 T at the time didn't have it, you know, he 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.920 wasn't enough for his jacket yet. But I was like 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.040 I was sitting up in the company like, damn, you know, 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.600 I'm the only one sitting up here without a jacket. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.719 And I went to uh La Damien's Hall of Fame speech, 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.000 I went to Ray Lewis's and I'll probably be going 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.440 to Antonio Gates and possibly Philip Rivers. If you know, 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.240 if it's up that time, does that ever click to 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.560 you at some point now, like it's that part of 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.400 it is right around the corner. What's that gonna mean? 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.680 It's it's uh, it's it's it's so over women. I 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.320 got an opportunity to Uh, exparience and close close like 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:16.800 that situation. Uh. We had the ceremony um in Miami 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.760 with the Super Bowl when they announced the top one 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.840 hundred and so um making that list. We uh had 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.720 like pretty much a whole week prior to the Super Bowl. 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.360 We up to the Super Bowl where we had like 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:32.000 seminars and banquets and stuff like that where it was 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.040 presenting our jackets and getting opportunely meet a lot of guys. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:40.080 So sitting in that room amongst all those guys man 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.880 that made the top one hundred in all long with 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.760 Hall of famers, you know, and then it was like, Wow, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.640 I'm in that situation that where all these guys right 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.840 here a hall of famous you know what I mean. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:53.920 And now we're talking about the top one hundred gritist 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.640 with all the time, and I'm in the room right 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.800 now and I don't even have I don't even I 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.240 didn't I'm the only one that didn't made the Hall 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.760 of Fame year and I'm sitting in the room amongst 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:05.600 the greatest top one because the NFL history, And it 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:09.240 was like I felt like a rookie all over again. Man, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.440 to be honest with you, No, I know what. Let 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.520 me tell you I was. I was in the um. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.680 I was in the room with Ray Lewis while they 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.880 knocked on the door and your your your time coming up. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.160 So I'm gonna go ahead and break. I'm gonna be 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.600 a little spoil alert. Man. That knock. That knock is 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.440 different that you know, like you get a regular knock 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.520 at the door, like somebody coming to you know, you know, 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.920 turn your bed over and clean your room. You might 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.079 get somebody to come up. But that knocked, man, when 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.000 they're coming knock on that door, dude, is next level. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.320 It's one of them. It's almost I think that that 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.640 right there is almost a knocker. Getting that phone call Drift, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.640 it feels like that's high phone be that that phone 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.319 call you get when you're sitting that way in the 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.520 room for your drugs and then get called for draft. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.200 That's like I would say, ten times more extrange and 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.679 more pressure and the draft with just up, the draft 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:03.560 with just up, you know what I mean. So I 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.720 got a great story, man. I remember when your name 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.440 came up and I was with the Chargers and obviously 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.280 we got you know, we had during sprows there with 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:12.920 episode I knew that I was when I was in 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.000 the draft room and they were talking about you your name, 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.960 it came up. But they were also talking about different 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.120 positions too, So what what what what was that like 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.120 when you kind of were you always asking to get 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.840 on the other side of the ball and play, you know, 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.040 play different positions and stuff too. Well, that's something they 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.120 just that kind of came along, because I don't think 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.000 it would have came along moved me to the office 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.720 side of if I didn't do what I did my 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:39.000 first year at kickoff and return um aspect. It was 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.280 it got to the point where it was like that, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.160 like you said, coaches, coaches read by into like new stuff, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.800 like they what they here, like like all of coaches 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.080 doing they see something the news paper, people talking about 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.679 why this is the best weapon they got on offense, 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.000 you know what I mean, on the office side of 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.800 the ball. This is the best bird. So it started feeding. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.400 They start feeding too and saying, man, we got a 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.520 moved that got offense. You know, it was something I 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.760 didn't want to do. I didn't want to move offense. 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.080 I wanted to dB, you know what I mean, and 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.840 settle and make a name for myself at dB. But 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.360 when teams started kicking the ball away from me and 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.199 taking me out of the game. For us me getting 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.360 my hands on the ball, the coaches said, we don't 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.040 have no choice but to move your offense. And so 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.200 that's why I got pushed it offense out of the ball. 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.800 That's always crazy to me, Like I would sit back 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.160 and why the hell teams are still kicking to this dude. 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.080 That that was the That was the first thing that 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.120 came to my head, like this, these people are crazy. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:35.160 They're still kicking and you already took one or two 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.760 to the crib. There's no way you're touching that ball 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.280 again for the rest of the game, right man. I 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.720 mean that's that we we kind of deal with, you know. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.120 And then the more I got talked about, I guess 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.240 teams started realizing that a man, we gotta kick it 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.520 out of We gotta kick this ball away from this guy. Man, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.200 It's no it's no no other scenario. Fox Sports Radio 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.120 has the best sports talk lineup and the nation. Catch 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.520 all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.200 and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.199 R to listen live. And last thing though, before we go, 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.439 because I got I got an eleven year old son. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.840 Because I always asked other other guys that I either 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.600 play with the played against and then my son played 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.720 quarterback and they play safety, right and what And I 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.680 saw the social media post that went viral on your son? 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.440 Does he do you how much pressure? Because you obviously 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.679 played at the highest level possible, you're gonna, you know, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.120 hall of famer. You know you've you've done your thing. 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.160 How much pressure do you put on your because and 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.079 I'm curious because I don't you know some of these 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.560 cases like I don't know, I don't know whether to 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.920 stay back and you know, let the coach doul to 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:44.160 step in there and sometimes his coaches black Man Sean 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.400 go you know, do you know do you think go 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.400 go talk to the team and coach And I kind 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.680 of wanted to sit back because I already know the 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.679 pressure is there for him to go out and do 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.040 what I did on the football field. Do you do 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.600 you know your son ever had that conversational just like, yo, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.920 he's a freak athlete. Let him go and do his thing. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:06.000 To my son, he was he was I got three boys, right, 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.400 So my oldest son, I don't want to do anything 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.200 with the ball. Nothing with anything with the ball. He 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.520 don't want to do it. And you know, I said, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.360 you know, I'm not gonna be that that father that 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.840 because I grew up with kids, a lot of friends 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.280 that fathered pressing him into doing this and being trying 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.199 to be like they wanted to be in life, say 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:25.880 you know, I'm not gonna do that, because I've seen 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.680 the relationship those kids be at what their father in 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.480 their dad. But my middle one was he was just 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.000 he was just specially like for Christmas at the age 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.600 of two or three years old, like all his gifts 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.760 from Christmas came from Dick's, Dick's and Sports Cada type 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.480 of stores. That's all he wanted. That's all he wanted. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.880 He don't want tout a no trains, no trucks, no car. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.800 He didn't want to watch, no TV, none of that. 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.400 All he wanted to do and play with balls and 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.319 go outside and play. That's all he wanted to do. 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.400 And so he got to the point where we was side. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.880 If I would find myself now outside just playing kiss 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.840 with him, start coaching him up on you know, shape 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.400 moves and how to do the cone drives and how 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.400 to do the lodder drills. And stuff like that. So 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.080 I I stepped to him one day and I say, hey, man, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.079 if you really want to be special, you know what 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.480 I mean, let me know and I can coach you. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:20.960 Because I was. I was, I'm in his coach, so 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.040 I always was his coaching every sport he played for 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.400 much and so I actually like men him. Were driving 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.200 home one day for practice and I say, um, do 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.280 you feel like i'd be hard on you like when 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:36.199 I'm coaching you? He said, I feel like you don't. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:40.360 When when when I make mistakes, you you you more 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.040 and more mad and you get more louder than I 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.200 for another kid beside me do the same thing. You 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.439 don't really ask, you know, you don't really really get 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.480 on him like that, But when every time I make 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.600 a mistake, you get on me. I say, man, it's 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.280 a point. It's a time and the point where it 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.480 coaching has to decide who to get on, you know 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.240 what I mean, who can handle it or at the 0:13:58.280 --> 0:13:59.640 end of the day, that's really not my kids. So 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.520 I can't really get hard on him. I say, but 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.719 you know what you still you are right now, right, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.360 so you let me know, and I promise you I 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.640 won't be mad, I'll back away a little bit. I 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.599 stepped back a little bit if you want me to 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.520 back away from you, But if you want me to, 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.920 if you want to be great, I gotta continue to 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:16.720 coach you like this. And I said, you make it 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.240 to say. I say, listen, this is a dad Is 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.160 this a dad and side talk? It's not a coach 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.920 coach coach has and drake and talk this right now. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.200 It's it's a dead and father sign talk right now. Okay. 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.640 So I promise you I won't be mad as I 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:30.800 if you want me to just come down a little bit, 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.280 back away, because I understand you still young. He looked 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.400 me in my eye and said, Daddy, I want you 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.680 to coach me hard. I want you. I said this, aw, 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.440 you really really won't dred. I promise you I won't 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:46.520 be mad. He said, Dad, continue to coach me this way. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:52.800 And tears ran from the top of my head all 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.960 the way to the tip of my pinky toe. And 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.480 he looked, man, his eyes got watery. That's when I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.880 knew here for real. He said, don't let up on me. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.120 Do not let up on the coach me the way 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.920 you've been coaching me. Because I want to be great. Yeah, 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.920 I got chills right now, man. That because that you know, honestly, man, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.600 and you know it too when you when you hear that, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.200 that's different because that's that's not talent no more. That's 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.640 not him being a freakish athlete. That's him actually wanting 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.800 to be really like wanting to be wanting to be great, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.080 wanting to be great. Man, I I do. I have 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.760 a quarterback coach that comes trained him once a week, um, 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.720 just to work on his fundamental is a little bit. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.440 And um, the guy that does it, he does like 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.920 the top top ten. I think they have like an 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.960 episode every year for the top ten quarterbacks and he going, 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.760 he does training for all the quarterback and he goes 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.440 around to a couple of colleges and work out with 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.520 some of the kids. But he's actually training my my son, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.160 like once a week. And he said, you know what, 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.160 he said, you're a son. I only coach two kids 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.480 that's under eight, your son and another son because he's 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.400 my close friend. He said, it's hard to coach eight 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.360 years because way I coach. After the first day they 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.800 break down crime and they said they don't want to 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.600 do it no more. It's too much precious, too much thinking. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.000 He said, I was so shocked. He said, I did 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.000 all I can to break your son to make your 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.360 son said he's not ready for it, and he didn't. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:16.840 He said, all your son did with pout, but he 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.200 never quit. He said, that's that's that's shocking right there, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:21.840 that he really really wants to do it at the 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.240 early age and you know early too, man, because that 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.480 because because that you can't teach them that there there's 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.640 no way for you to make him tough, no made up, 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.600 but no way to make them want to go out 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.800 and do that. So if he got if he had 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.280 that mentality now and when he was you know, eight 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:40.400 years old, Yeah yeah, man, Hey, So so what else, man? 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.000 What else you got going? You're coaching, you got you know, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.360 some business, some businesses going. Uh. Man, I'm really really 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.880 like you. We both know when you in the game 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.840 of sports, man, it's really no faminize. So the minute 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.040 I returned, Man, I said, you know what it's is 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.560 for me as the fartherest time of me to have makeup. 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.440 Tip says, I wanna make up time, like I want 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.640 to really really be able to see my kids go 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.800 to school, like when I played ball. I've never seen 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.560 my kids go to school on the first Dale school. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.720 I never seen him get dressed for school, you know 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.159 what I mean, Only little school classes and little shows 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.480 that I devil got a chance to attend. It. I 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.800 say no. For me, it's more makeup time. And I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.320 just had another one. He's three now. But I'm at 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.720 the point right now where I'm just it's it's it's 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.000 all that that. It's all about the kids now, so 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.320 I'm more relaxed. I got to own a couple of 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.720 commercial spots, a couple of running properly home. But other 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.840 than that, I'm just shipping back. Man, just and join 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.679 my family. Doe doe, he my dude. Man, appreciate you 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.840 for coming on. I'm gonna be out there too that 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.520 when that jackets, so look in the crowd. I'll come 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:43.280 find you, okay. Man, appreciate you, guys, have me man 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.800 my dog man appreciate you. Okay, y'all gotta take it easy. 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.720 Thanks guys for listening. Then to another lights out podcast 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.440 with me Sean Merriman. Uh and that was dope. Man. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.320 You're a couple of things right. So the cool thing 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.040 about me doing this podcast is you know you you 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:02.680 play with a lot of guys. You play against a 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.840 lot of guys. It's some some guys here and there. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.600 You don't get a chance to be around that much 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:08.600 because you don't get a chance to talk to him. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.760 And you see what they're doing a football field, You 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.639 see how great they are and what they do in 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.000 their craft. But to hear what they got going on 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.280 and and uh, Devin Heston has a ton of going on, 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.359 and I'm glad he's getting that chance to spend with 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.840 his kids. Uh right after they finished going FIRA. I 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.880 mean he he has some explosive athletic kid. Man. It's 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.800 all in the gene, so defensive players, ten fifteen years 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.600 from now, you're gonna be hating another Haster out there 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.159 in the field. So I appreciate Devin Haster for coming on. 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.320 Thank you guys for listening. Then to another Lights Out 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.040