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Speaker 1: This is the Earth at a time when the dinosaurs

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Speaker 1: roamed a lush and fertile planet. A piece of rock

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Speaker 1: just six miles wide changed all that. It happened before,

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Speaker 1: it will happen again.

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Speaker 2: Uh, that would be nice.

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Speaker 3: Louis Heel had a terrific for a few innings. His

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Speaker 3: stuff was electric movement on his fastball. He was putting

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Speaker 3: a sudden he hit that crunch and the Reds took

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Speaker 3: total advantage of him. And that was what we saw

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Speaker 3: in the last few starts. I agree with you one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent. Louis Heal should be closed down, shut down

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Speaker 3: the bullpen because we need some bullpen help. That would

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Speaker 3: solve a problem. It solved a big problem. And please

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Speaker 3: kill Ferguson. I've had enough of him.

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Speaker 2: I know that the Yankees insist that Luis Heel is fine,

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Speaker 2: but it's evident from the eye test that he's not

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Speaker 2: He's running out of gas. And if he keep running

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Speaker 2: him out there to get lit up, not only are

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Speaker 2: you going to hurt his confidence, you're going to hurt

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Speaker 2: him physically because his body is not prepared to take

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Speaker 2: on this kind of innings limit. And as for Caleb Ferguson,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they saw in this guy. He

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Speaker 2: is terrible. He's one of the worst, most unreliable relief

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Speaker 2: pitchers that I've seen the Yankees pick up in years.

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Speaker 2: He gives me Steve Howe vibes. And if you're a

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Speaker 2: younger fan and you don't remember Steve Howe, look him up.

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Speaker 2: He was awful.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Derek nichrom South Carolina, just one of other comment

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Speaker 4: like I've always have on our pitching. You know, when

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Speaker 4: we can't get five innings out of our pitching staff,

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Speaker 4: it puts a lot of pressure on our bullpen and

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Speaker 4: and our bullpen just to me, they're just they're just

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Speaker 4: not there. And guys like Scott Efros coming back and

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Speaker 4: Ian Hamilton, these are not the answer. These guys are,

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Speaker 4: really that good. They're they're they're they're fluky. One night,

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Speaker 4: what you're getting with them. They're not consistent on a

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Speaker 4: on a game the game basis we need to get

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Speaker 4: I have one guy in mine that I've talked to

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Speaker 4: and we need to get a closer so we can

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Speaker 4: we'd have him for six years. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: he'll blow his elbow out, because that's why you have

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Speaker 4: a coaching staff. That's why you have a pitching coach,

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Speaker 4: a guy who teachers. Think the kids had to throw hard,

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Speaker 4: but how to save some of that so he doesn't

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Speaker 2: If it were possible to teach that, I think everybody

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Speaker 2: get hurt. It seems like the UCL is snapping more

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Speaker 2: and more often because guys are throwing more max effort,

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Speaker 2: and if you take away his max effort, he's not

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Speaker 2: going to be throwing one hundred plus. Also, I don't

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Speaker 2: think the A's are going to trade Mason Miller. I

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Speaker 2: He's becoming a fan favorite out there in Oakland and

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Speaker 2: or wherever they decide to play next. But yeah, we

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Speaker 2: got to get some pitching, man.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tonkin's been okay, Luke Weaver's been okay, but

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Speaker 2: we've had some missues. We mentioned it last night on

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Speaker 2: the on the postgame show. Ferguson is a complete miss

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Speaker 2: He has got to go. And you know, Victor Gonzalez

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Speaker 5: Hi, Dak, this is Kendall from New Jersey. Love your show.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, it is time to send Lewis Heel

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Speaker 5: to the minor leagues. It's been six ineffective starts in

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Speaker 5: him up for Will Warren or whatever. Probably well a

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Speaker 5: and make a training for the next Cameron Small or

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Speaker 5: somebody else's team for cheat that will give you four

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Speaker 2: So a couple of things. I don't disagree that Louis

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Speaker 2: Yesterday he went four innings, gave up four runs. And

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Speaker 2: that's exactly what you're advocating for, as somebody who pitches

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Speaker 2: very effective out of the bullpen if you get him rested.

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Speaker 2: But he's already thrown more innings than he's thrown in

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Speaker 2: clearly gassed, and it's just this is a product of

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Speaker 2: the Yankees not having enough depth. We've seen it with

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Speaker 2: the position players. We don't have the depth to make

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Speaker 2: in the pitching. The player development system has got to

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Speaker 2: do a better job. Now the Yankees do trade away

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Speaker 2: a lot of their guys. You know, there's no JP

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Speaker 2: you can move to get some depth. Maybe somebody needs,

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Speaker 2: you know, something that we have in abundance. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: need a catcher. We got three catchers, We've got a

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Speaker 2: Platinum Glove winner, Juan Jose Travino. Let's get some depth.

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Speaker 2: Let's move Austin Wells into the starting role. Let's call

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Speaker 6: Gone there, good little comeback there came up just short.

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Speaker 6: Just wanted to say, I think the Yankees missed on

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Speaker 6: a real opportunity, honestly, to actually pass on Louis Heal

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Speaker 6: that would have been his start day. If they just

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Speaker 6: they could have probably went a round through the rotation

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Speaker 6: Because to a lot of fans it does seem obvious

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Speaker 6: he's got a stuff. But the dude just a little

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Speaker 6: of a missed opportunity. Wasn't sure what you thought. Also

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Speaker 6: I kind of agree. I like Lucas airisag I think

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Speaker 6: just looks good and keep up the good work man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Yankees totally missed an opportunity to rest Louise Heal.

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Speaker 2: They could have done it without disrupting the rotation, and

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Speaker 2: instead they watched him run out of gas. Yet again.

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Speaker 2: It's just another dumb move. The Yankees continue to make

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Speaker 2: dumb move after dumb move. They get in their own

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Speaker 2: I would have definitely skipped him this trip through the rotation,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I'd find a way to skip him

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Speaker 2: three times. It's clear to me that he needs a break.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how the Yankees don't see this.

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Speaker 2: I wonder sometimes if they actually watch the games or

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Speaker 1: We got some boat be daughters.

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Speaker 7: He's hitting the thirty to forty points over he did

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Speaker 7: last year, and he's breeding off and he's done a role.

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Speaker 7: I hate did it, man, But I missed Stin. I

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Speaker 7: never thought those words when it came out of my mouth,

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Speaker 2: I don't blame anybody who wants to pull Anthony Volpi

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Speaker 2: I think he'll come around, but I'm not opposed to

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Speaker 2: You know he's banged up. And yeah, I miss John

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Speaker 2: Carlow too. But here's the thing. You knew he was

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Speaker 2: He guaranteed he's gonna get injured every single year, and

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Speaker 2: we got nobody to back him up. They were counting

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Speaker 2: on the Martian didn't work out, and you know you

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Speaker 2: gotta be more prepared. I mean, why is Augustine Ramirez

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Speaker 2: You got to Andrea's Shaparro. This would have been a

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Speaker 2: provide depth when the Yankees need it.

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Speaker 7: In regard to Luis, heel thinking about putting that guy,

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Speaker 7: maybe giving him a little bit of a rest, and

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Speaker 7: you know, after they all sort of break, maybe putting

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Speaker 7: him in the bullpen as our closer. They Clay Holmes

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Speaker 2: I think if the Yankees do move Luis Hill to

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Speaker 2: Yankees closer. The Yankees wouldn't do that to Clay Holmes.

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Speaker 2: What I think they'll do is they'll put him in

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Speaker 2: whether that's a phantom Iel trip, whether that's a trip

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Speaker 2: Not only has he thrown more innings than he's ever

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Speaker 2: thrown before, but there's all the spotlight of being, you know,

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Speaker 2: all this attention. It's got to wear on him, not

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Speaker 2: All right, ladies and gentlemen, I will see you after

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Speaker 2: tonight's game. Thanks for all your calls. Continue to call

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Speaker 2: you next time.