Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal I'm that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State.
Speaker 2: Is that? Whoo whoo? And then and Tie, welcome back
Speaker 2: to the solid urbal boys and girls. My name is
Speaker 2: ty Hid the brand joining me over there in steamy
Speaker 2: New York City. My man, the one, the only Dan Rubensteins.
Speaker 1: Sir, how are you?
Speaker 3: I have been waiting for this show for a good
Speaker 3: amount of time. Have you really have that?
Speaker 1: I've given it, I've given it some thought.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is because this is the perfect time to
Speaker 3: do our dude preseason watch list. Yes, and I got
Speaker 3: I know, I know, and I just got even more
Speaker 3: hot and bothered. Whoa subtle that's a solid verbal cannon.
Speaker 3: Now as a phrase. I just watched the trailer, the
Speaker 3: initial whatever it is teaser trailer for the New Top Gun. Okay,
Speaker 3: it ended with such a dude line. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you watched it.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet. Don't spoil it for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not saying the movie ends with this line.
Speaker 3: I'm saying the trailer ends with this line. But it'll
Speaker 3: get you, it'll get your sweaty tie. So that just
Speaker 3: added to my excitement for this dude show. And so
Speaker 3: you can take it from here. Yeah, but I've got
Speaker 3: waves pulsing through me.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I want you to give yourself a moment,
Speaker 2: maybe go a little cold compress here, to compose yourself
Speaker 2: as we progress forward. As Dan mentioned, tonight's going to
Speaker 2: be our dude watch list, and we will explain momentarily
Speaker 2: a little bit more about what that means and how
Speaker 2: it fits into the war of this show. This wonderful
Speaker 2: podcast is soliverbal that we've built over there.
Speaker 3: We're not at all making up this concept as we go,
Speaker 3: not at all making it out as we go. This
Speaker 3: is part of a well hatched plan. We can promise
Speaker 3: you that while we are figuring out how to describe this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I would like to take the opportunity to remind folks
Speaker 3: that we now have tickets on sale for not one,
Speaker 3: but two live shows that we are going to be doing,
Speaker 3: literally on the same weekend, Boys and Girls, starting in
Speaker 3: Dallas on August the seventeenth. That show is at the
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Speaker 2: We've had an incredible outpouring of support and excitement around
Speaker 2: that Dallas show, and then the very next day, before
Speaker 2: you ask, yes, we did book a flight to get
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Speaker 2: Tickets to do Slash DC. We're going to be doing
Speaker 2: our Fantasy Things show, the Fantasy Things draft that we're
Speaker 2: super excited about every year. Yeah, going to be doing
Speaker 2: that in both places. We're also going to be putting
Speaker 2: together a different show in some capacity for both audiences.
Speaker 2: So it's not going to be like a comedian going
Speaker 2: on the road doing the same stick night after night.
Speaker 2: Dan and I are going to put a little bit
Speaker 2: a little bit more muscle into it. What that is yet,
Speaker 2: we haven't decided, but we're working on it. We're excited
Speaker 2: about it. If you are in the general DC area, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Until we did, until we announced the DC show, or
Speaker 3: until we announced the Texas show, DC tickets were moving
Speaker 3: faster than any show we've ever released tickets for. Yes,
Speaker 3: and then we release Texas tickets and they're moving even
Speaker 3: faster than DC. So these are flying off the shelves
Speaker 3: and we cannot stress enough how much we want to
Speaker 3: hang out with you, which is to say, also, we're
Speaker 3: going to do a show for you, and then we're
Speaker 3: going to go somewhere nearby or just stay there and
Speaker 3: hang out and drink beer and hashtag tendos tenders with
Speaker 3: tie we'll eat chicken tenders and whatever else is around.
Speaker 3: Because it's incredible to put faces to names and just
Speaker 3: to meet listeners. It's the coolest thing. I say that genuinely.
Speaker 3: So if you are on the fence, we are telling
Speaker 3: you it's a great time and we can't wait too personally,
Speaker 3: thank you for listening. And because we are doing a
Speaker 3: Saturday then a Sunday show, it has like a tour vibe,
Speaker 3: right yeah, yeah, can we get one of those giant
Speaker 3: road cases and that has like stenciled on Soliverrble nineteen
Speaker 3: tour even though we have no gear all the gear
Speaker 3: will already be on the venues. That's how we'll transport Taylor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be Taylor will be in tow by
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, he's coming with us to both locations.
Speaker 2: We need our guy in the production booth to make
Speaker 2: sure things go smoothly.
Speaker 1: Should we figure out how we're doing today's show.
Speaker 2: Today's show is what we're calling the Dude watch List. Now,
Speaker 2: as you know, if you've listened to the show for
Speaker 2: any period of time, you're probably pretty familiar with this sound.
Speaker 2: By now, it's one of the most popular things we do.
Speaker 2: We've incorporated it into every Sunday show. Looking back at
Speaker 2: the week that was calling out the dudes that were
Speaker 2: people get into it. So we started thinking much in
Speaker 2: the spirit of the Bolitnikoff watch List or the Ray
Speaker 2: Guy watch list, the Banski Yeah, all of these watch
Speaker 2: lists that come out that we make a lot of
Speaker 2: fun of, quite frankly, because everyone's on the watch list,
Speaker 2: we decided we're going to put together our own dude
Speaker 2: watch list, but with a few very simple provisions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, by a few.
Speaker 2: I mean one, and that one is you can't use Tua,
Speaker 2: you can't use Trevor Lawrence, you can't use the guys
Speaker 2: that are super duper obvious on your dude watch list because,
Speaker 2: to be honest, everyone already knows that they're on this list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're saying no dubos, and dubos are dude bonafides
Speaker 3: bona fides.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: So if you are Jonathan Taylor, for instance, you've got
Speaker 3: your dubos, you got your dude bonafides, you have your
Speaker 3: your gold dude jacket. No sleeves, by the way, absolutely
Speaker 3: no sleeves, often dude bonafide jacket. So there are certain players,
Speaker 3: previous All Americans, previous guys who have torn it up
Speaker 3: and you know, are clear dudes. If we leave somebody
Speaker 3: off that has produced like crazy these past few years
Speaker 3: and has received a ton of attention, this isn't what
Speaker 3: this show is about. It's not a preseason All American show.
Speaker 1: It is not.
Speaker 2: So I want to act this from a couple different perspectives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first and.
Speaker 2: Foremost, I tried to identify a slew of sleeper dudes.
Speaker 1: What is a dude to you?
Speaker 2: A dude to me is someone who's out there on
Speaker 2: the field with a presence, Okay, a game impacting presence.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they're scoring all the touchdowns, but it could
Speaker 2: mean that they're so effective in the passing game that
Speaker 2: they draw the attention of defender and make somebody else
Speaker 2: get open.
Speaker 1: It's just somebody.
Speaker 2: It's just somebody who opens up the game in a
Speaker 2: meaningful way for his team, somebody who goes out there
Speaker 2: and has a very positive impact in a way that
Speaker 2: if you're watching at home, you look at it and
Speaker 2: you say, yeah, that guy's that guy's a baller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at it.
Speaker 3: There's something about him that's a wrecking ball, Yes, something
Speaker 3: you know it's It always comes back to Miley Cyrus obviously,
Speaker 3: but somebody where I will watch your mixtape where I
Speaker 3: will question the music choices on the mixtape and.
Speaker 1: I will think to myself, damn, I want him on
Speaker 1: my team. That's right.
Speaker 2: Maybe one of those guys that you hate, yeah play against.
Speaker 2: I used to have this thing with Dustin pedroia as
Speaker 2: a Yankees fan. I know that you saw yourself and him.
Speaker 2: I didn't see myself in him. It was ever that
Speaker 2: good at baseball. But Dustin pedroya classic example of someone
Speaker 2: who you hate from the outside, but if you were
Speaker 2: a red sox fan. I'm sure you loved him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all right. So definitely we and by we I
Speaker 2: mean Dan put together just this little sound to signify
Speaker 2: the occasions. A little bit of Chainsmokers, a little bit
Speaker 2: of z in there. I think I heard it's it's
Speaker 2: a dude mood.
Speaker 1: Ty. That's what we're all in now. It is a
Speaker 1: dude mood.
Speaker 2: I approached this from the standpoint of trying to find
Speaker 2: sleeper dudes on varying levels, some more notable than others.
Speaker 2: I may have inadvertently included a dude bow in mine,
Speaker 2: but we'll cross that bridge when we get to the SEC.
Speaker 3: It's always you know, there's gonna be a scattered doobo
Speaker 3: here or there.
Speaker 2: Which conference do you want to start with first? Or
Speaker 2: how do you want to list your dudes off?
Speaker 1: Let's start out with America's conference, the PAC twelve. How
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 3: All we do is take questions about can the PAC
Speaker 3: twelve ever get its respectability back? Can they make it
Speaker 3: the playoff? Let's start out with some PAC twelve dudes,
Speaker 3: how about that? Let's do it? Who you got first?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Top of my list? And this is no particular order,
Speaker 3: it's not alphabetical. It's just people I thought of when
Speaker 3: I was scanning rosters and depth charts. I have Josh
Speaker 3: Kelly at UCLA, Okay, I think he has a really
Speaker 3: nice year. He put Ucla and they didn't make a
Speaker 3: bowl last year, but they were pretty frisky by the
Speaker 3: end of the year. He put them on his back,
Speaker 3: putting up major numbers. And I believe their new offensive
Speaker 3: coordinator is former offensive line coach. So I just I
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be an identity built around the run
Speaker 3: for UCLA that is going to benefit Josh Kelly. The
Speaker 3: UC Davis transfer, go ags and so enormous dude qualities
Speaker 3: built to carry this team. I think he's going to
Speaker 3: do damage. Okay, who else? My next dude, Max Borghie.
Speaker 3: I believe that's how you pronounced it. If we pronounce
Speaker 3: something incorrectly, it's the off season for us too.
Speaker 1: Yep. It definitely is.
Speaker 3: Max Borgie's sort of an all purpose offensive weapon for Wazoo.
Speaker 3: And I remember watching Wazoo against Oregon and a number
Speaker 3: of games where he just keeps getting open and keeps
Speaker 3: making and she's.
Speaker 1: Like, Damn, I like that kid.
Speaker 2: I like him a lot.
Speaker 3: So Max Borgy especially with some new faces on offense
Speaker 3: and Gaje goubrud for for Wazoo. I like him a
Speaker 3: lot to be consistent. Piney Sewel. I hope they pronounced
Speaker 3: that right offensive tackle for Oregon. He's just a monster.
Speaker 3: It's the most talented player on that offensive line, a
Speaker 3: very good offensive line. But they're going to be running
Speaker 3: behind him a lot. He's protecting Justin Herbert's blindside. Started
Speaker 3: at left tackle for Oregon as a true freshman. Incredible
Speaker 3: Bradley Ane for Utah. The defensive end is the anchor
Speaker 3: of the best defensive line in the Pac twelve. He
Speaker 3: is just an unstoppable weapon off the edge. Evan Weaver always.
Speaker 1: Terrible Evan Weaver. You have Evan Weaver.
Speaker 3: He's a Cali crush, your Cal crush, big linebacker at
Speaker 3: like six three, two fifty and I think he wears
Speaker 3: a tight he like Whear's like eighty nine or ninety nine.
Speaker 3: It's very confusing, like he accidentally ran on the field
Speaker 3: at the wrong time. But he is everywhere making plays
Speaker 3: and is really the anchor. It's a really good secondary
Speaker 3: for Cal, but the anchor of that defense. And then
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try for this one, ty, I swear to you,
Speaker 3: I'm trying Paula Ea. Paula EA.
Speaker 1: Now Tayote, now Tayote.
Speaker 3: I mean that's already better than I would do. Okay,
Speaker 3: I think a star in the making for USC. AT
Speaker 3: linebacker is going to be a stud for them. They
Speaker 3: have a young defensive lineup front, and let the rotation's
Speaker 3: pretty young as well. I think he's going to make
Speaker 3: a lot of plays and I think he's the next
Speaker 3: great USC linebacker.
Speaker 1: And I don't.
Speaker 3: Love that USC. He's going to have another incredible linebacker.
Speaker 3: But he's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 2: So let's start with Evan Weaver for me. Evan Weaver,
Speaker 2: the linebacker from KEL one hundred and fifty nine tackles
Speaker 2: last year, which put him second in the nation. That'll
Speaker 2: he could have gone pro if he wanted. He decided
Speaker 2: though he didn't want to go out on that losing
Speaker 2: note in the cheese At Bowl.
Speaker 1: Dan O No, who does who among us wants.
Speaker 2: That as their legacy? He decided he's coming back. Our
Speaker 2: friends over at Pro Football Focus love the guy. They've
Speaker 2: got him as the highest graded returning linebacker in the
Speaker 2: Pac twelve. Cal has done a pretty good job on
Speaker 2: defense the last two seasons, and I'm excited to see
Speaker 2: what he can do in his final season at cald
Speaker 2: So that is a point of overlap for us. I'm
Speaker 2: assuming Laviscus Chanault is too much of a dude bo
Speaker 2: to put him.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's a dude du bona fide. Yeah, dude bona fide.
Speaker 3: Leviscashanalt might be the best receiver in the country. He
Speaker 3: has been recognized as such. I understand because not a
Speaker 3: lot of people watched a ton of Colorado football last
Speaker 3: year and he gets hurt in the middle of the year.
Speaker 3: But yes, clearly a dude establishment. What about your boy
Speaker 3: Troy Die from Oregon. Oh, he's real good, Troy Die.
Speaker 2: You know more about him than I do. But I
Speaker 2: know he's led the team in tackles three straight years.
Speaker 2: In fairness, it is easier when you're playing on a
Speaker 2: defense where nobody tackles. But that being said, Troy Dye
Speaker 2: has been very productive. They were good in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay for Orgon and I don't think he gets enough press.
Speaker 3: Yeah, came back this year. The two clear dudes to
Speaker 3: me on that Oregon defense are Troy Dye. It's up
Speaker 3: the middle, Troy Dye and Jevon Holland that's safety who
Speaker 3: led the team in interceptions. I believe last year a lot
Speaker 3: of decent players, but those two guys are special. I
Speaker 3: think where do we stand on Khalil Tait as a dude?
Speaker 3: Is he fringe dudebo? Two years ago he had it?
Speaker 3: Last year he had dude moments, but he wasn't that
Speaker 3: obvious dude for a number of reasons, health and otherwise.
Speaker 3: So if you were predicting big things, big production, and
Speaker 3: a redudness of Khalil Tate, I'd say for.
Speaker 2: Sure, cause, like you said, two years ago, we were
Speaker 2: launching an impromptu Heisman campaign for the guy. Last year
Speaker 2: had a new coach, didn't run as much, and he
Speaker 2: was pretty banged up for half the season. But even still,
Speaker 2: even in spite of that, he showed flat. This year,
Speaker 2: he's got JJ Taylor back in the backfield with him
Speaker 2: as well. We know he's a playmaker. He could be
Speaker 2: on this list. Backfield's going to be a ton of fun.
Speaker 2: I think they'll get a ton of chances to make
Speaker 2: plays because the defense will be awful, so he's gonna
Speaker 2: put up stats. I think Khalil Tate's in a good
Speaker 2: position here to be to regain his dude noss.
Speaker 1: As you said, it's a good dude reminder. I think
Speaker 1: that's fair.
Speaker 2: And then the final one, I have a question about
Speaker 2: what about Eno Benjamin.
Speaker 3: That's a great one. He was a dude at times
Speaker 3: last year, but he's a great underrated dude to talk
Speaker 3: about going into this year because I think he's probably
Speaker 3: one of the best, probably five or six running backs
Speaker 3: in the nation.
Speaker 2: Keep this in mind when you talk about EEno Benjamin
Speaker 2: again running back Arizona State. He ran the ball three
Speaker 2: hundred times last season, which was the third most of
Speaker 2: any back in college football, over sixteen hundred yards on
Speaker 2: the ground, nineteen touchdowns, also caught thirty five balls out
Speaker 2: of the backfield, and scored two more receiving touchdowns. Clearly
Speaker 2: a dude from a stats perspective. Yes, consider the fact
Speaker 2: that all of that was with Manny Wilkins who's now
Speaker 2: gone and Nikhil Harry who's now playing for the Patriots. Yes,
Speaker 2: both those guys are gone. He's gonna be the whole
Speaker 2: offense dan for Arizona State.
Speaker 1: They're gonna figure it out.
Speaker 2: Herm Edwards had at a nice and normal season last year.
Speaker 1: It was fine.
Speaker 2: But eno Benjamin is the offense as they break camp,
Speaker 2: as we go into September, certainly, I think he stands
Speaker 2: to maybe be worked to death here just as a
Speaker 2: football player.
Speaker 1: But if he stays healthy, he's going to have.
Speaker 2: Ample opportunities to establish his dudinas in twenty nineteen. Who's next,
Speaker 2: Let's go to the SEC next. Oh, okay, let's get
Speaker 2: it out of the way. Well, I want to start
Speaker 2: with Braiden Man. Okay, new Braidman. We brought him up
Speaker 2: last episode. Yeah, I want to start with him again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Braiden Man punter Texas. A and M won the Ray
Speaker 2: Guy Award last year, average fifty one yards per punt.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get picked in the draft in April.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And remember a couple episodes ago we talked about in
Speaker 2: our Bama LSU book report, how having Brad Wing in
Speaker 2: a key spot can flip the game and really have
Speaker 2: an impact. A good punter is not something that grows
Speaker 2: on a tree.
Speaker 3: A and M replacing a lot on defense, so you know,
Speaker 3: an ability to pin a team back and force them
Speaker 3: to drive eighty one yards seventy three yards ninety yards
Speaker 3: pretty important as a and m revamps things a little
Speaker 3: bit under Mike elcho on defense revamps in terms of
Speaker 3: it's obviously a second year, but some new faces there.
Speaker 1: I have more. But who do you go?
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to see if we have any overlap?
Speaker 3: I have Kylon Hill.
Speaker 1: Ooh, good one, I don't have.
Speaker 3: I really think if Mississippi State is able to get
Speaker 3: anything through the air this year with Tommy Stevens or whoever,
Speaker 3: that Kylon Hill is going to be the big beneficiary.
Speaker 3: He was an underrated back last year, and I don't
Speaker 3: think it's quite a fantasy thing because I don't think
Speaker 3: this conversation will happen a lot. But if he's good,
Speaker 3: and if he's good in an all purpose way, it's
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of well look what Joel
Speaker 3: moorehead dead first, say Kwon Barkley as he do.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: Kylon Hill runs hard, he runs, he's fast and should
Speaker 3: have better lanes this year. I anticipate a really nice
Speaker 3: year for Kylon Hill and nice games in general. I
Speaker 3: think he'll explode a couple of times like he did
Speaker 3: against Kansas State last year.
Speaker 2: I have Tommy Stevens because I'm biased.
Speaker 1: WHOA, Okay, so you're all in. I'm all in.
Speaker 2: I have I have him and it is because I'm biased.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: You just think the familiarity with Morehead and he was
Speaker 3: returning pieces on both sides.
Speaker 2: They were splitting him out wide for Penn Stee. They
Speaker 2: were trying. Now granted it was a bit of a
Speaker 2: gag play, sure, but he's clearly athletics. He caught some passes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he wasn't totally useless. He was waiting his turn. It
Speaker 2: didn't quite work out at Penn State. I'm glad he
Speaker 2: was able to latch on with Joe Moorehead and I
Speaker 2: just really like the familiarity he has with that offense.
Speaker 2: He would have been a perfect fit for the Joe
Speaker 2: Moorehead offense at Penn State if Morehead hadn't left, and
Speaker 2: if Trace wasn't in his path. So I am willing
Speaker 2: to stake something of my dude draft here, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to call this on Tommy Stevens having a very
Speaker 2: positive impact for Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: Writing this down to come back to later on in
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: Okay, next, next, Next, I want to go to well
Speaker 2: Michael p RN for FLOORDA.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. I have a different Florida
Speaker 3: player on offense, but by all means.
Speaker 2: Well, Michael p Rn was essentially a backup last year,
Speaker 2: still had almost a thousand yards from scrimmage. Now as
Speaker 2: a senior, the Florida offense is going to continue to
Speaker 2: improve under Dan Mullen. And I think that means more
Speaker 2: touches for I think it means better stats. I think
Speaker 2: it means more of a chance to have a very
Speaker 2: positive impact.
Speaker 1: He ran hard.
Speaker 2: I liked what I saw from him when we saw
Speaker 2: him on the field, kind of split carries with Jordan Scarlett.
Speaker 2: If you look at the numbers.
Speaker 3: I have Kadarius Tony sort of an all purpose weapon
Speaker 3: for Florida, And while he doesn't have the top end
Speaker 3: speed of Percy Harvin, while he doesn't have the top
Speaker 3: end ability and versatility of Percy Harvin, he has been
Speaker 3: and will continue to be used in a similar fashion
Speaker 3: out of the backfield, reverses, hitches, you know, in the
Speaker 3: return game and the best of Kadarius Tony is pretty incredible.
Speaker 3: And I was watching a bunch of clips and it
Speaker 3: reminded me of something that I would not have remembered
Speaker 3: unless it were football season that I cherish shown so much,
Speaker 3: not directly about Kadarius Tony, but about Gary Danielson, who
Speaker 3: I think he was calling a long kick return against
Speaker 3: Georgia for Tony, and that that is that Danielson's replay
Speaker 3: voice is different than in the moment voice. In the moment,
Speaker 3: he'll say something like great play by you know, uh
Speaker 3: Kadarius Tony as okay, yeah, But when it's a big
Speaker 3: play and they're going back in slow motion, his voice
Speaker 3: is such that he's describing it to somebody upstairs, like literally,
Speaker 3: you're watching it in the living room and somebody's in
Speaker 3: the bedroom asking you what's going on, and his voice
Speaker 3: is like, Kadarius Tony, he just okay.
Speaker 1: It's a really good run and okay, no he's still
Speaker 1: in bed. Look like it went out of bounds, but
Speaker 1: he's still in it.
Speaker 3: And it's wonderful the way his voice changes, like describing
Speaker 3: it to somebody thirty eight feet away, nice with a
Speaker 3: higher register shout shout out Gary.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love those guys who you can get creative. Dan
Speaker 3: Mullen continue will continue to get creative with Kadarius Tony
Speaker 3: and Great First Step great like turning three into seven
Speaker 3: and a half yards.
Speaker 1: I love all of that.
Speaker 2: I want to go a bit off the radar here. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's talk about Lynn Bowden Junior from Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Okay, fill me in.
Speaker 2: Lynn Bowden Junior, a wide receiver. It's spelled Bowden, but
Speaker 2: he pronounces it Boden. Kentucky was pretty run heavy last year.
Speaker 2: You might remember Benny Snell. We talked about Benny Stell
Speaker 2: pretty much.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Between him, Terry Wilson, and AJ Rose, they had four
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven carries. Snell is now playing on
Speaker 2: the Steelers, so he's gone.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Mark Stoops clearly saw something in Stell. He gave him,
Speaker 2: gave him a ton of carries. He fed the beast.
Speaker 2: But now he's gone, and I think that means the
Speaker 2: offense gets a bit more balanced, which may mean good
Speaker 2: things for my boy. Lenn Bowden Junior, far and away
Speaker 2: Kentucky's best receiver caught sixty seven of his eighty three targets,
Speaker 2: had seven hundred and forty five yards and five touchdowns.
Speaker 2: What I really like, though, I'm gonna remove the bubble
Speaker 2: wrap from this, just like you have your points per
Speaker 2: drive or whatever that is aanalytics. My new favorite stat
Speaker 2: is a dot average depth of target statistics.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: His a DOT last year was nine yards nine yards,
Speaker 2: which is really solid. Mark Stoops said he wants to
Speaker 2: get him the ball more. That's obviously somewhat dependent on
Speaker 2: Terry Wilson taking a step forward in that line holding up.
Speaker 2: But I think Lynn Boden's in a really good spot
Speaker 2: to emerge as not just an option because he was
Speaker 2: already a threat, but as more of a part of
Speaker 2: that Kentucky offense, someone that they're looking to get the
Speaker 2: ball to on a more frequent basis.
Speaker 3: Kentucky bottom half of the conference last year in terms
Speaker 3: of passing.
Speaker 1: But very run heavy, really running.
Speaker 3: They were very run heavy. But I'm even talking yards
Speaker 3: per attempt and they're they're rating when they did throw it,
Speaker 3: it was not always terrific. This was a team led by,
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, Benny Snell in the defense, so would
Speaker 3: love to see things opened up. It was nice that
Speaker 3: they were able to hold on to Eddie gran as
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, So yes, I anticipate hopefully ascending to average.
Speaker 1: Who else do you got in the sec? Anybody? I
Speaker 1: love a good bowling ball.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows this about me, and that means Kishon Vaughn Vanderbilte.
Speaker 3: It's tough to really fully feel confident in the Vanderbilt
Speaker 3: offense against the better teams on their schedule. But it's
Speaker 3: my feeling that we are going to see a lot
Speaker 3: of We all need to watch this run immediately, tweets
Speaker 3: on Twitter on Saturday afternoons because he does something ridiculous
Speaker 3: and he did it in the bowl game the Illinois transfer.
Speaker 3: I feel good about Kishan Vaughan's ability to generate dude highlights. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: I've got Big O Alberto for Miszoo. I think he's
Speaker 3: the best tight end in the conference. Certainly a new
Speaker 3: look without Drew Locke, but Kelly Bryant looks he should
Speaker 3: be above average. He should be pretty good for Maszoo,
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna find Big O' good deal.
Speaker 3: Who was an incredible weapon, you know, outside of what's
Speaker 3: Jay Sternberger for texts A and M was a class
Speaker 3: above other tight ends I would say in the conference.
Speaker 3: So Big Oh, I think is gonna have a good one.
Speaker 3: I have Andrew Thomas for Georgia, who I think sort
Speaker 3: of has dubo dude bonafides. Yeah, he may be a
Speaker 3: top five pick in the NFL draft, but you will
Speaker 3: see DeAndre Swift, who most certainly does have the dude
Speaker 3: bona fides, running often behind Andrew Thomas because he seals
Speaker 3: things in a pretty incredible way for the Dogs.
Speaker 2: It's easy to go dude bo when you're talking about
Speaker 2: offensive lineman because they just don't get the recognition correct
Speaker 2: of a skill player. I'm gonna throw Derek Brown out
Speaker 2: there from Auburn.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's right under Andrew Thomas. Another possible DUBO with
Speaker 3: how good he's been and how high he'll be drafted,
Speaker 3: but worth noting.
Speaker 2: For one of the best ten players in college football.
Speaker 2: But a beast in the middle. Six five three twenty.
Speaker 2: He's athletic, he's good against the run. It's a physical conference.
Speaker 2: He's going to be gone after this year. He's almost
Speaker 2: certain gonna be gone, So enjoy him while he's by
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: They would before we move on from Derek Brown, they
Speaker 3: would line him up on the edge in certain packages. Yeah,
Speaker 3: six five three twenty. He moved all over the line,
Speaker 3: and he was throwing out pass rushing moves from the
Speaker 3: edge and just demolishing quarterbacks, and I can tell you
Speaker 3: as an Oregon fan, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what they're gonna do with them. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: I am not looking forward to the Derek Brown solution
Speaker 3: because the track record of Oregon, even with different coaches
Speaker 3: and figuring out a dominant defensive lineman of Auburn not
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 2: He probably qualifies as a Dubo, but I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm putting him in there, the other Auburn guy, and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna move on Booby Whitlow. Sure he Okay,
Speaker 2: we don't know what Auburn is gonna look like on
Speaker 2: offense this year. Jared's Didham's gone. They're trying to figure
Speaker 2: out if it's gonna be Joey Gatewood, who some have
Speaker 2: called a a mini or a baby version of Cam Newton,
Speaker 2: which is high praise. Okay, it's going to be bo
Speaker 2: Nicks a quarterback. I see that uncertainty, and I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: it's Booby time, baby.
Speaker 3: Please fresh isolate the sound of ty saying it's Booby
Speaker 3: time baby.
Speaker 2: Freshman year, seven touchdowns, seven and eighty seven yards. It's
Speaker 2: a system that we know, at least used to be
Speaker 2: kind to the running backs. I don't know what it
Speaker 2: is anymore, but with that kind of debut season, he
Speaker 2: figures to be in line, given uncertainty elsewhere on the offense,
Speaker 2: to have a really good season.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what Booby Witlow hasn't tore.
Speaker 2: Real first name is Jitarvius, which is equally as amazing,
Speaker 2: but Booby Witlow is the official moniker.
Speaker 3: It's a wonderful year for SEC running backs. By the way,
Speaker 3: Jay Harris, I.
Speaker 2: Had a hard time going through that list looking at these.
Speaker 2: I wanted to say something nice about all of them.
Speaker 2: There's so much amo there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Where are we going next? Dan, Let's go the
Speaker 2: Big ten?
Speaker 1: How about that? This one was tough for me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to start with I'm gonna start with a
Speaker 3: Big ten player who I know for a fact.
Speaker 1: We'll get to you and continue to get you hot
Speaker 1: and bothered.
Speaker 2: You're giving me the vapors here, going big ten. I
Speaker 2: have a healthy list.
Speaker 3: Pat frarm youth baby baby so was a what a
Speaker 3: freshman last year? Not freshman All American?
Speaker 1: Very good.
Speaker 3: He was a ridiculous end zone weapon in big games,
Speaker 3: scoring I think in eight or nine touchdowns is a
Speaker 3: true freshman. Whether it was true or red shirt, I
Speaker 3: don't remember. But he is the heir apparent to Mike
Speaker 3: Kasiki in terms of doesn't matter who the quarterback is,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter the situation. I think he's going to be
Speaker 3: crazy dependable. I know some Penn State fans call him
Speaker 3: like baby Gronk.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I assume that's a compliment.
Speaker 3: Sure, but I think he is going to be pretty
Speaker 3: significant for Penn State this year and will become a
Speaker 3: household dude.
Speaker 2: Name my dude for Penn State is Robert Windsor Okay,
Speaker 2: along the defensive lines, defensive tackle he tore Gross Matos
Speaker 2: is gonna get a lot of the attention this year
Speaker 2: at end, for sure. He had eight sacks last season.
Speaker 2: Micah parsons he's going to get a lot of attention
Speaker 2: because he led the team in tackles as a freshman. Rightfully,
Speaker 2: so in general, Penn State's defense looks like it's going
Speaker 2: to be crazy good. But don't forget about Robert Winsor
Speaker 2: up the middle. He had seven and a half sacks
Speaker 2: last year. He's very good against the run. He's going
Speaker 2: to be a key cog in the works. They're still
Speaker 2: trying to figure out. I think, who's going to be
Speaker 2: that DT number two that lines up next to him.
Speaker 2: But he's a senior. He's going to be anchoring the
Speaker 2: middle interior portion of that defensive line for Penn State
Speaker 2: and should have a pretty good year.
Speaker 3: And as far as you can tell, people are not
Speaker 3: necessarily bullish on the Penn State offense in the way
Speaker 3: that they were two to three hour years ago.
Speaker 2: And how could you be trace Picks, You're winning His
Speaker 2: quarterback in program history is walking out the door. That's
Speaker 2: a year after Saquon Barkley. Maybe the best running back
Speaker 2: to ever come through your system walks out the door.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to replace. This is a really pivotal
Speaker 2: year for James Franklin and Ricky Ronnie.
Speaker 3: I gave kJ Hamler some thought because he is one
Speaker 3: of probably I don't know eight players nationally who's an
Speaker 3: extra gear guy. I was like, oh, he's got a
Speaker 3: little Oh he's gone. Oh, he's just gone. He is
Speaker 3: that kind of player, and so I gave a thought.
Speaker 3: But he is closing in on dude bona fides for sure.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Anthony McFarlane, Oh from Maryland.
Speaker 2: Now our backstory history. Our backstory on Anthony McFarland is
Speaker 2: that we thought, at least for a moment in time,
Speaker 2: and by we, I definitely only mean me, but maybe
Speaker 2: you that Anthony McFarland was the actual son of one
Speaker 2: Booger McFarland, who you see on TV.
Speaker 1: Anthony Booger McFarland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we went with that. We ran with that, and
Speaker 2: unlike a lot of the other factual mistakes that we
Speaker 2: inevitably make during the season and off season, it took
Speaker 2: a while for someone to find this one. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: wasn't immediate like it usually is. It took to like
Speaker 2: Thursday after a Sunday show for someone to say, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think so wait a minute.
Speaker 2: It turns out they're not related. But Anthony McFarland is
Speaker 2: still a very good football player. He plays running back
Speaker 2: for Maryland. He rushed for over a thousand yards as
Speaker 2: a freshman. That includes a monster game against Ohio State
Speaker 2: late in the year when he almost ran for three
Speaker 2: hundred yards on just twenty one carries, which is remarkable.
Speaker 2: They've got a new coach at Maryland. Now we'll see
Speaker 2: what that offense looks like. But anytime you can have
Speaker 2: that kind of impact as a freshman in a very
Speaker 2: tough conference on a not so great team. That's something
Speaker 2: that a coach can build around, and I think they will.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see what chapter two of the
Speaker 2: McFarland Earra looks like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no more Ty Johnson, who was quietly excellent for
Speaker 3: the Terps and so it is his backfield.
Speaker 1: Okay. I have Josh ucha Ucci Michigan. Ooh good one.
Speaker 3: A lot of options there, but I think he's gonna
Speaker 3: get after the quarterback in a pretty significant way for
Speaker 3: the Wolverines. They're just they reload. They're going to be
Speaker 3: excellent on defense. One more time, two more times, three
Speaker 3: more times. He is going to be excellent for them.
Speaker 3: He's long, he's rangy, and he flashed in a rotation
Speaker 3: role last year, which is always a good sign. Do
Speaker 3: you have a Michigan player here?
Speaker 2: I didn't pick a Michigan player.
Speaker 1: Okay. I have Patty Fisher.
Speaker 2: Ooh good name. I love that. That's Patty with two d's. Right,
Speaker 2: that's Patty with two d's who is everywhere for Northwestern.
Speaker 2: A receiving corps that loses a couple of key coggs
Speaker 2: receive a linebacking corps that loses Key Coggs. But he
Speaker 2: is Every year Northwestern has this is appropriate. They have
Speaker 2: a dude. They just year over year, the Northwestern defense
Speaker 2: always has a like, Oh, this this person is significant.
Speaker 2: This person is all Big Ten, if not all America.
Speaker 2: A token Pat Fitzgerald, right, a token Pat Fitzgerald a grinder,
Speaker 2: that's right. Patti Fisher is going to be that do
Speaker 2: everything guy this year for Northwestern. Would not surprise me
Speaker 2: if he led the Big Ten and tackles that kind
Speaker 2: of player. I've got Tyler Johnson on here from Minnesota. Okay,
Speaker 2: I like that wide receiver. Not going to talk too
Speaker 2: much about him.
Speaker 1: Consistent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, passing games should be better. He is the guy.
Speaker 2: He's the target they're gonna if they're going to take
Speaker 2: a step forward. Some people were really bullish on what
Speaker 2: they could do on offense this year. Tyler Johnson would
Speaker 2: have to factor in there, so he's a big one.
Speaker 2: I have two guys from Indiana because I'm always pretty
Speaker 2: high in Indiana.
Speaker 1: Whoo, who's yours? I want to start with.
Speaker 2: If I had to pick one guy, one guy of
Speaker 2: all the names that I'm throwing out here, the one
Speaker 2: guy that I would have picked over everybody is Nick
Speaker 2: Westbrook from Indiana.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm always a little high on Indiana, higher than
Speaker 2: I should be, but I'm really intrigued by the Indiana
Speaker 2: offense in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: They've got really good skill talent.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, I've got two names and I'm going to
Speaker 2: call out here, but let's start with Westbrook. This is
Speaker 2: a system that's thrown a lot over the last two years,
Speaker 2: and that's not likely to change since Tom Allen went
Speaker 2: out and hired Kaylin de Bor from Fresno to run
Speaker 2: the offense. De Bor is on the record. You can
Speaker 2: go on YouTube, you can go on newspapers. You can
Speaker 2: find plenty of references to him talking about how they
Speaker 2: want to generate more explosiveness and how that's his top priority.
Speaker 2: This is a really big deal if you're looking.
Speaker 1: At Nick Westbrook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whether it's Peyton I almost said Peyton Manning, He's
Speaker 2: definitely not Peyton Manning, Peyton Ramsey at quarterback, whether it's
Speaker 2: someone else, they just had a lot of trouble throwing deep.
Speaker 2: If they can get better at all in that area,
Speaker 2: that's a big deal for Nick Westbrook. He's in line
Speaker 2: for a big year. He led the team with seventy targets.
Speaker 2: He led wide receivers with a dot. He wasn't quite
Speaker 2: to the nine yard level that we mentioned earlier like
Speaker 2: Lynn Bowden, but he was at eight point four. If
Speaker 2: they go deep, Nick Westbrook is going to be the guy.
Speaker 2: They're going deep too. We know they're going to throw.
Speaker 2: I think the future is very bright for him in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: I like that pick.
Speaker 2: The other guy, the other name is Stevie Scott. Okay,
Speaker 2: Stevie Scott's the running back for Indiana. The issue for
Speaker 2: Indiana is going to be offensive line outside of quarterback
Speaker 2: on offense. The other issue is going to be offensive
Speaker 2: line where they're replacing three of five starters up front.
Speaker 2: That's going to have an impact on Stevie Scott. But
Speaker 2: this is another big kid with a lot of promise.
Speaker 2: Rushed for over eleven hundred yards, had ten touchdowns in
Speaker 2: his freshman year, and again another guy on that Indiana
Speaker 2: roster that's due for a pretty big year.
Speaker 3: I definitely have a dude bona fide with my final
Speaker 3: pick for the big ten, aj Epanessa for Iowa. Very
Speaker 3: good who just laid waste to left tackles across the conference.
Speaker 3: He's another he might go top ten something like that
Speaker 3: in the NFL draft. He is, He's a technician. He
Speaker 3: plays angry, he disrupts. He had a million tackles for
Speaker 3: loss and sex. He was productive and he will become.
Speaker 3: If he's not already a household name within the Big ten,
Speaker 3: he might be the best. Chase Young is probably the
Speaker 3: best pure talent. But in terms of just how impressed
Speaker 3: I am, because Chase Young is just off the charts,
Speaker 3: I think he has the dude bona fides after winning
Speaker 3: the Penn State Game. Essentially at the end, I'm going
Speaker 3: with aj Abanessa, even though there is some dubo to him.
Speaker 1: I have one more dubo.
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Speaker 2: which conference you want to do next? We've knocked off
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Speaker 3: I'd like to add this as a nice little disclaimer.
Speaker 3: After three of these conferences, we know there's one hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty teams. Oh yeah, we know there are potentially hundreds,
Speaker 3: if not thousands, of potential dudes. So what we're requesting
Speaker 3: is if we left somebody off of our dude list,
Speaker 3: that's so glaring, so impossible to think of as being
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Speaker 3: late July, just keep it to yourself. No, you can
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Speaker 3: how could we not include bliberty blobbity JK. Dobbins, who
Speaker 3: obviously has this dude bona fides for Ohio State. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can, you know we will. We will accept all
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Speaker 3: dudes right now. This is just a watch list.
Speaker 2: This is a watch list. I was going to offer.
Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't, No, I was gonna I was going
Speaker 2: to offer to compile a master list of missing dudes
Speaker 2: and then put it together in some sort of Bohemian
Speaker 2: rhapsody style singing poetry.
Speaker 1: Really half jokingly.
Speaker 3: Okay, so is that the lowest descaparasidos dudes? The missing,
Speaker 3: the forgotten dudes? Sure disappeared dudes.
Speaker 2: Which conference you want to go to next? Let's go
Speaker 2: to Big twelve, Dig twelve. I got three names in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got like seven.
Speaker 2: I could have done seven. Three really jumped out to me. Okay,
Speaker 2: I want to start with my boy, Charlie Brewer from Baylor.
Speaker 1: Okay, why is it your guy?
Speaker 2: I you know, I've had this weird thing for Charlie Brewer.
Speaker 2: He came on in the Matt Rule era. It's clearly
Speaker 2: been a bit of a rocky go As Baylor tries
Speaker 2: tries to rebuild, he's gotten better each year. He's the
Speaker 2: definite starter this season for the Baylor Bears. Lock it
Speaker 2: in yep through three hundred and ninety balls last year
Speaker 2: and had only nine interceptions.
Speaker 1: Like that, nice and say, probably.
Speaker 2: The fourth best quarterback in the Big Twelve behind Ellinger
Speaker 2: Hurts and Brock Purty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, yeah, depending on I mean, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: able to pencil in whoever starts for Oklahoma State is
Speaker 3: probably being very good because that's the reputation that Oklahoma
Speaker 3: State quarterbacks have had these past few years. You know,
Speaker 3: for good TCU, Kansas State, Kansas, Texas Tech. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get some production there. If British
Speaker 1: Allen Legends.
Speaker 2: Alan Bowman would be would be someone who would challenge
Speaker 2: I think for that number four slot. But Brewer is
Speaker 2: in the discussion. I like the fact that he's shown improvement.
Speaker 2: I like the fact that Baylor as a team has
Speaker 2: played with so much heart the last two seasons. I
Speaker 2: think that that helps. It speaks to the leadership on
Speaker 2: the team. The guys who are obviously prominent, like Brewer,
Speaker 2: play into that.
Speaker 1: So let's start with Charlie Brewer for.
Speaker 2: Me, Okay, fair enough, I'm going to go to Brock party.
Speaker 2: As long as we're starting at quarterback. Good one for him.
Speaker 3: To come in as young as he as young as
Speaker 3: he was in taking over. I was just crazy impressed
Speaker 3: with him all season long. Big games, small games, medium
Speaker 3: sized games. He performed. He got the ball to receivers.
Speaker 3: Obviously his receiving corps is going to look a little
Speaker 3: bit differently this year. But I have nothing but confidence
Speaker 3: that he's going to be even better for Matt Campbell
Speaker 3: and Iowa State, and it's gonna be a fun year.
Speaker 3: He usually is in the Big Twelve, but Iowa State,
Speaker 3: especially with how they're building up depth. I have another
Speaker 3: Iowa State player on here.
Speaker 1: I have one too, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Have Greg Eysworth, who is I guess does he qualify
Speaker 3: as a former land shark. He came in when they
Speaker 3: were actually good to Ole miss transfers to Juco ends
Speaker 3: up at Iowa State. Is you know, as versatile as
Speaker 3: safety as there is in the Big Twelve. I'm a
Speaker 3: big fan of his and has has helped this defense
Speaker 3: not just become pretty good, but good like just absolutely
Speaker 3: inflicting pain on a number of teams. This Iowa State
Speaker 3: defense has been really great at times, So I think
Speaker 3: he's a big reason why. Up the middle he's been great.
Speaker 2: I've got Jaquan Bailey. Okay, the defensive end for Iowa State.
Speaker 2: The theme this season will be Iowa State's front seven.
Speaker 2: They're really good. Chiquan Bailey is the big name, but
Speaker 2: he's not a household name, right. He had eight sacks
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half tackles for loss last year. He's
Speaker 2: already tied the Iowa State record for career sacks and
Speaker 2: he's got a whole year to go.
Speaker 1: Is a really good player.
Speaker 2: If you're not going to tune in specifically to Jakwan Bailey,
Speaker 2: I mean you're missing out if you're not, but tune
Speaker 2: in for the Iowa State defense.
Speaker 1: The Iowa State.
Speaker 2: Defense, yeah, is going to be as good as advertised
Speaker 2: this year, especially in that front seven, and Bailey plays
Speaker 2: a pretty big role there. So I'm excited to see
Speaker 2: what Matt Campbell has in store on that side of
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 3: Let's just score some more points for the Syhawk Trophy
Speaker 3: this year, what do we say, ty, Let's let's do
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Iowa State last year thirty third
Speaker 3: in defensive points per drive allowed minus garbage time, So climbing.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Caden Sterns? Is he too high level? No?
Speaker 1: I think that's good. He was young.
Speaker 2: Caden Sterns, safety for Texas, Freshman All American, four interceptions,
Speaker 2: one of six guys to have more than fifty tackles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got hurt.
Speaker 2: Got hurt clearly, Sam Ellinger, Colin Johnson gonna get a
Speaker 2: lot of love on that offense, a lot of the tension.
Speaker 2: But this guy here, I think everyone has acknowledged after
Speaker 2: seeing him one year on the field, he is a
Speaker 2: clear start in the making, someone to really go back
Speaker 2: there and play center field.
Speaker 3: Had a great game against SC I believe had a
Speaker 3: blocked kick, was all over the place. Loved watching him
Speaker 3: in that game. You know what, Let's stay with Texas
Speaker 3: and I'll go Lucas Niang for for TCU. Another name
Speaker 3: that will become household. Could be the second offensive lineman
Speaker 3: taken in the draft, but was so good and played
Speaker 3: whistle to whistle time nice No, he's an aggressor for
Speaker 3: TCU for a TCU unit that was pretty rough at
Speaker 3: times last year, there was a ton of effort from him.
Speaker 3: Six to six I think three point thirty just enormous
Speaker 3: and should come up big plays right tackle and will
Speaker 3: pave the way for a good amount for the Frogs.
Speaker 1: Anybody else in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Dan Jalen Rager, I know, maybe has dude bona fides,
Speaker 3: but somebody that fast. He is an extra gear guy
Speaker 3: you know, would disappear at times, has been a little
Speaker 3: bit beat up, But my god, when Jalen Rager has
Speaker 3: the fire under his feet, he is as exciting a
Speaker 3: player with the ball in his hands as anybody in
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: Tylan Wallace is probably one of the best five receivers
Speaker 3: in the country. Goes after balls. Is just an aggressor
Speaker 3: a really really nice route runner, whether it's think it's
Speaker 3: Spencer Sanders or Drew Brown who will be battling out
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys starting quarterback job. Tylan Wallace is a
Speaker 3: luxury for a team that keeps year after year and
Speaker 3: they still have Dylan Stoner, but year after year developing
Speaker 3: these top flight receivers. He's the dude.
Speaker 1: Once again.
Speaker 3: I have just on the topic of Oklahoma State, Chuba Hubbard.
Speaker 3: He was especially later on in the season, came on
Speaker 3: very very strong in the backfield. Is I mean, looking
Speaker 3: at the running backs, maybe Kennedy Brooks is better, but
Speaker 3: Chuba Hubbard is probably my guy. Just overall in the
Speaker 3: Big twelve. I fully anticipate him in this new offense,
Speaker 3: this what do we call it? The Peter Hoffman offense
Speaker 3: for Princeton, for Oklahoma State. I think he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a huge year Chuba Hubbard.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: Kenneth Murray, who, aside from just having to do everything
Speaker 3: for this Oklahoma defense, do I have to do everything?
Speaker 3: That kind of player. I think he kind of saved
Speaker 3: somebody's life last week. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 3: this story. Oh yeah, that's crazy, but he administered CPR.
Speaker 3: A couple was somebody was not breathing in a car
Speaker 3: in front of him, and his girlfriend called nine to
Speaker 3: one while Kenneth Murray administered CPR.
Speaker 1: So just cool story.
Speaker 3: And he had something like one hundred and sixty tackles
Speaker 3: last year, so everywhere for Oklahoma, and I anticipate him
Speaker 3: thriving in the Alex Grinch defense. And thus concludes my
Speaker 3: list of Big twelve dudes.
Speaker 2: Let's move on to the acc Yeah, have you taken
Speaker 2: a peek at Syracuse's defense this year?
Speaker 3: I must admit ty, I went away and secluded myself
Speaker 3: to study Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Now I did not. I have not.
Speaker 2: Syracuse has some manpower on that defense. Okay, you're gonna
Speaker 2: hear a lot about Andre Cisco, who as a true
Speaker 2: freshman last year was ridiculous, ridiculous and is only going to.
Speaker 1: Get better as safety. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Want to call out Alton Robinson along the Syracuse defensive line.
Speaker 1: He got real good.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did last year ten sacks, seventeen tackles for loss,
Speaker 2: twenty and a half runs, stuffs if you want to
Speaker 2: use some of our friend Bill Connolly's numbers. He can
Speaker 2: rush the passer, he can stop the run. You can
Speaker 2: find all sorts of clips of him roasting Notre Dame's
Speaker 2: offensive line last year.
Speaker 1: I could tell you that much.
Speaker 2: It's exciting to see this. Alton Robinson is a different
Speaker 2: maker up front. I mentioned Cisco, he had something crazy
Speaker 2: like seven interceptions as a freshman. It's like an All American.
Speaker 2: So this is exciting if you're a Syracuse Orange fan.
Speaker 2: I know we have a lot that listened, but I'm
Speaker 2: really excited to see what this kid does along the
Speaker 2: defensive line. He's got a ton of promise, and I
Speaker 2: think the kind of guy who makes a difference in
Speaker 2: some key spots for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a couple of guys in that defensive backfield.
Speaker 3: I like their line. A lot linebacker will be different
Speaker 3: for Syracuse that might be a step back situation, but yeah,
Speaker 3: Syracuse defense is pretty good.
Speaker 2: The other name that I have in the ACC, it's
Speaker 2: my only other name in the ACC. Can you believe
Speaker 2: that two names? I have two names? These two jump out?
Speaker 2: Can I put them above everybody?
Speaker 1: Sure? Is it Hassis du bois? No, it is not.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I considered him but ultimately did not go
Speaker 1: with him.
Speaker 2: Let's go with Xavier Thomas for Clemson. So he's a
Speaker 2: defensive end. Clemson's entire line has gone from last year,
Speaker 2: which no, which means there are definitely snaps to be had.
Speaker 2: Clemson's line this year is going to be super young
Speaker 2: and a ton of fun to watch as an encore
Speaker 2: to what we saw last year. This guy, to Xavier Thomas,
Speaker 2: isn't a deep sleeper. He was a five star recruit.
Speaker 2: Last year as a freshman saw sometime at three and
Speaker 2: a half sacks a bunch of tackles for loss. But
Speaker 2: now he really gets the opportunity to step into the
Speaker 2: limeblight and take over, take control of that defensive line
Speaker 2: and I expect him to do. So. I think he's
Speaker 2: in line for a big year. We know Clemson's reloading,
Speaker 2: They're not at a point where they ever have to
Speaker 2: rebuild the foreseeable future. But you put the X man
Speaker 2: up front there, and he's going to change games.
Speaker 3: I have John Simpson on the other side of the ball, okay,
Speaker 3: mostly because I've seen his name more than anybody else's
Speaker 3: this week in college football news circles.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 1: He showed up at ACC media.
Speaker 3: Day wearing a giant wig as Trevor Lawrence long hair,
Speaker 3: and then he also claimed Notre Dame was a tougher
Speaker 3: out than Alabama. Yeah, which, my man, good for you,
Speaker 3: John Simpson. You beat Notre Dame by twenty seven. You
Speaker 3: beat Alabama by twenty eight. If math recalls and math
Speaker 3: math is math ty, yep, it's gotta be true. So
Speaker 3: John Simpson did a terrific job paving the way for
Speaker 3: Traves etn Last year. The line was a strength once
Speaker 3: again for Clemson. So John Simpson did a great job
Speaker 3: inside for them. They rotate a ton of guys, but
Speaker 3: he is, He is now going to be anchoring that
Speaker 3: line this year. So love John Simpson, and I would
Speaker 3: be terrified of him if I were anybody in the ACC.
Speaker 1: Anybody else in the ACC.
Speaker 3: I got Marvin Wilson, who may not be terrified of John.
Speaker 3: If you watch Marvin Wilson play, maybe he's not super
Speaker 3: terrified of John Simpson. But he's one of the very
Speaker 3: few comes in as what like the number one player
Speaker 3: in the country defensive tackle up in the nose, sometimes
Speaker 3: gets into the backfield. Is crazy athletic for his size,
Speaker 3: and I think he's going to have a breakout here
Speaker 3: Florida State, mostly because he's not going to be on
Speaker 3: the field nearly as much because the offense has to improve.
Speaker 3: They must at this point, so he will get a
Speaker 3: little bit more in the way of breathers. But Marvin
Speaker 3: Wilson was at his best a crazy interrupter last year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've got basically the entire Miami defense. But I just
Speaker 3: love Shaq Quorterman. He was somebody else who whether it
Speaker 3: was in coverage or rushing the quarterback, he was just
Speaker 3: another I mean, crazy interrupter. If I'm going to use
Speaker 3: the same verbiage. Loved watching him, and I mean whether
Speaker 3: it's pink knee, whether it's God, who else is on
Speaker 3: that defense this year. That's back again, Trajan Bandy. I
Speaker 3: really like this Miami defense as Manny Diaz takes over.
Speaker 3: And not that their defense is gonna be any different
Speaker 3: he was running it last year, but there's the familiarity
Speaker 3: there that I think they're gonna thrive.
Speaker 1: We still have a group of five guys to do.
Speaker 1: We do have group guys. Who do you have in
Speaker 1: the group of five? Can I be honest with you
Speaker 1: for a second. This is the time.
Speaker 2: This is a show about honesty. As you know, Dad
Speaker 2: would try You and I talk pretty frequently, wouldn't you say,
Speaker 2: throughout the course of a day to plan the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to check in his friends, right.
Speaker 1: At a minimum. I think that's true.
Speaker 2: We came up with this concept on Tuesday afternoon. I
Speaker 2: was all for it.
Speaker 1: I still am.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this show. Tuesday evening, I went
Speaker 2: home after the mysterious day job. I worked hard. I
Speaker 2: mind dudes from all corners of college football.
Speaker 1: Dude minor Yeah. And then at.
Speaker 2: About one am I got to the group of five.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it was at one am where I wrote up
Speaker 2: an elaborate, gushing, flowery description of how I am so
Speaker 2: excited for twenty nineteen version of Tyree Jackson from Buffet Boom.
Speaker 2: I have it all written here. They went seven to
Speaker 2: one conference last year, ten and four overall, Lance Leipol,
Speaker 2: the guy can coach. Yeah, Whitewater seven national championships at
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Whitewater, right, mm hmm, Tyree Jackson six seven to
Speaker 2: forty five?
Speaker 1: What's not to like?
Speaker 2: Not accurate always, but a big dude. Uh huh. And
Speaker 2: it was at that point that you shared with me,
Speaker 2: not at one am, but on Wednesday on our g
Speaker 2: chat session that you had some alarming news for me
Speaker 2: regarding Tyree Jackson.
Speaker 1: Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: And that alarming news den is that Tyree Jackson now
Speaker 2: plays for the Buffalo Bills of the NFL, not the
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bulls of college football.
Speaker 1: That's correct.
Speaker 3: He entered his name into the transfer portal and then
Speaker 3: entered his name into the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: So sorry about that.
Speaker 2: So Tyree Jackson here, I still kept on my list
Speaker 2: because again this is a transparent show. Yeah, but now
Speaker 2: have five bolded x is next to his name.
Speaker 3: One of my all time favorite like he made plays,
Speaker 3: he was definitely good. Buffalo was really good last year,
Speaker 3: but one of my all time like the scouting reports
Speaker 3: of him are like, really impressive athlete, crazy good arm, accuracy,
Speaker 3: understanding on a level of NFL. So yeah, he was
Speaker 3: very fun.
Speaker 2: Let's stick with a quarterback though, in the group of five,
Speaker 2: and let's talk about Jordan Love from Miles Stage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jordan Love threw for thirty five hundred yards and thirty
Speaker 2: two touchdowns last year ran for seven more touchdowns. So
Speaker 2: this is this kid's a stud. You just haven't heard
Speaker 2: about him. If you're used to watching the Big Ten
Speaker 2: or a Power five conference every week, he should be
Speaker 2: poised for a monster year. The only reason I hed
Speaker 2: you a little bit is because Gary Anderson is back
Speaker 2: and coaching, and I don't know what kind of tweaks
Speaker 2: he's gonna make to that offense.
Speaker 3: Do you know who their offensive coordinator is, Mike Sandford.
Speaker 3: What did Mike Sandford do in year one of Deshaun Kaiser?
Speaker 1: He did pretty good things, and you did a pretty
Speaker 1: good thing.
Speaker 3: He coached Andrew Luck and Kevin Hogan at Stanford. I
Speaker 3: think it was the Grant Hedrick hed year for Boise
Speaker 3: State and Deshaun Kaiser took a step back for sure
Speaker 3: his second season, But year one Deshaun Kaiser was I mean,
Speaker 3: I think Mike Safford has a pretty good reputation, a
Speaker 3: little strange, a little bit, yeah, that you go from
Speaker 3: Western Kentucky not working out as a head coach to
Speaker 3: Utah State that there wasn't a softer landing spot. But
Speaker 3: that's who Jordan Love has, who's known to be a
Speaker 3: good quarterback whisper.
Speaker 2: That would be an optimal situation. We'll see what the
Speaker 2: tweaks look like, see how the offense changes, if at all,
Speaker 2: But Jordan Love is a name to keep on your radar.
Speaker 2: Utah State needs to get its offensive line figured out. Offense,
Speaker 2: You've got to get a lot of stuff figured out,
Speaker 2: but particularly the offensive line. That'll play a role in
Speaker 2: how Jordan Love does in twenty nineteen. But he's definitely
Speaker 2: a name to keep on the radar.
Speaker 1: And you know who his offensive line coach was last year?
Speaker 1: Was it last year? Yes?
Speaker 3: Last year, as I'm losing my mind, it was mister
Speaker 3: flat foot casual dress, James Franklin's offensive coordinator. And so
Speaker 3: Jordan Love had a little bit of flat footy moments
Speaker 3: while succeeding, but he had those moments. So there's a
Speaker 3: lot to like about Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: I have Love. I have Richie Grant, the safety at UCF.
Speaker 1: I call him.
Speaker 2: Richie six picks after his make up yourself I did,
Speaker 2: I think I did unless I saw it somewhere and
Speaker 2: inhaled it subliminally, subliminally through osmosis great and center field.
Speaker 3: It was a very very strong pass defense last year.
Speaker 3: I expect the same for the Knights in UCF. Their
Speaker 3: weakness has been, or was last year, the run nothing.
Speaker 3: He was mostly playing back and not really a box safety,
Speaker 3: but I think he has NFL talent written all over him.
Speaker 3: I have Patrick Johnson from the American who is the
Speaker 3: joker outside linebacker for two Lane. He was a tackle
Speaker 3: for Lost Machine, good size for that sort of rush
Speaker 3: drop end type outside linebacker into coverage as well. And
Speaker 3: the good news about him one, well, there's two bits
Speaker 3: of good news. One, that's a very strong line up
Speaker 3: front for two lane this year and they're going to
Speaker 3: lead the way for the Green Wave. And then they
Speaker 3: have Auburn week two, Houston week four, and they're at
Speaker 3: Army week five. So he will have an opportunity to
Speaker 3: show out against some some top flight competition and become
Speaker 3: an even bigger household name.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, who do you have next?
Speaker 2: I want to start with Alvin Davis the safety, Tyree Jackson,
Speaker 2: No more, Tyree Jackson, he's on the rushmore have the
Speaker 2: dude watch list. Alvin Davis safety Akron he is five
Speaker 2: to nine, one seventy five. Wow, it's not exactly a
Speaker 2: tank back, so you're stunt double. That's right, But back
Speaker 2: to back all mac honors. Every site, strangely has a
Speaker 2: different number for his total number of tackles over the
Speaker 2: last three years. Let's just say it's at least two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four in the last three years. Super productive,
Speaker 2: excited to see what he can do. He comes streaming
Speaker 2: down from center field. Not the biggest guy in the world,
Speaker 2: but another one who has a ton of impact.
Speaker 1: On the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you have next? Michael Warren the second?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no brainer, no brainer. Running back Cincinnati rushed
Speaker 2: for over thirteen hundred yards last season, had nineteen touchdowns
Speaker 2: as a sophomore. This is an offense that ran the
Speaker 2: ball a ton last year. They ran even more than Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: He's got most of his line back. He's got another
Speaker 2: year with Desmond Ritter back there, who had a pretty
Speaker 2: good freshman campaign at quarterback, A duel threat guy. I
Speaker 2: think under Luke Fickle last year kind of a surprise
Speaker 2: year for Cincinnati. They've got a lot of key pieces
Speaker 2: back on offense. This year, I need to take another
Speaker 2: step forward. Remember they were led by defense last year,
Speaker 2: so now to hopefully take.
Speaker 1: That offense pretty incredible one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take that offense up a gear could make all
Speaker 2: the more difference for the Bearcats.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with your Mac pick.
Speaker 3: Because I really liked watching Levante Bellamy play last year.
Speaker 3: I didn't watch a ton of Western Michigan, but I
Speaker 3: watched some of the Michigan game, and I watched some
Speaker 3: of the Syracuse game the shootout, and he was good
Speaker 3: versus Michigan. He found he found grass and then just obliterated,
Speaker 3: just demolished Syracuse. He had like something like ten yards
Speaker 3: of carry, was all over the field. Gives me like
Speaker 3: a Michael James vibe. Doesn't have the upper end speed,
Speaker 3: but even at a somewhat diminutive with a somewhat diminutive frame,
Speaker 3: runs hard between the tackles, you know, turns three into
Speaker 3: seven and a half. Like I've said to I think
Speaker 3: for Kadarius Tony, but in a more traditional running back role.
Speaker 3: Really strong runner. Really liked watching Levante Bellamy last year
Speaker 3: goes for over a thousand yards. My final dude is
Speaker 3: from the Mountain West. Kiava Tazino.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe how.
Speaker 2: You would pronounce for punishment with these names.
Speaker 3: He's just so good. He's anchoring the San Diego State defense.
Speaker 3: They're looking for a bounce back year this year. John
Speaker 3: Washington is an interesting name, of course, for the for
Speaker 3: the Aztecs. He should go over a thousand yards this year,
Speaker 3: but in a defense replacing some guys. I think he
Speaker 3: is going to be You're gonna be able to set
Speaker 3: your watch to Kiava Tazino. So give me San Diego States.
Speaker 3: And by the way, the Mountain West has been turning
Speaker 3: out linebackers pretty quietly in a really good job. Last
Speaker 3: year was what Jeff Allison for Fresno State. I think
Speaker 3: he was like a preseason dude of some kind that
Speaker 3: we mentioned. And this year Kiava to Zino. How about
Speaker 3: that Kiawa to Zino. Yeah, Okay, there you have it.
Speaker 3: Our long list of sleeper dudes and fringe doubos and
Speaker 3: just fun guys out there on the field to pay attention,
Speaker 3: to write them down, send in your own lists if
Speaker 3: you want. Maybe we'll do a Bohemian style singing poem.
Speaker 1: Maybe we won't.
Speaker 3: It's like our hipster dudes, like, we could just go
Speaker 3: with the obvious guys exactly, or we could dig.
Speaker 1: A little bit deeper. These guys are gonna be reckon
Speaker 1: column B.
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