1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone. 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we are 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about Violet afflex message to the world, 4 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: about masking, a circus performer who plummeted to their death, 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: and the dangers of amusement rides. All that and more 6 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: on titday's episode. Let's get started with Violet Affleck. 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: So, for those of you who aren't familiar, she is 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: the nineteen year old daughter of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner. 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 2: So she went to the UN last week to discuss 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: clean air and urge the government to bring back mask mandates. 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this? 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: I just I actually feel bad for this kid because 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I think that she's completely out of her mind and 14 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine that her parents are letting her 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: do this. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and there's a lot like there's really like, 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: are there people right now that are just like you 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: should be wearing a mask at all times? 19 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: I mean I know there are, but. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: Everywhere I go I see people, not everyone, but I 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: see a handful of people wearing them when you go out. 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: It's sad what has been done during this pandemic to 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: people to make them think that they need to wear 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: a mask all the time. 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: I just feel really bad for people like that. See, 26 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: It's like I could get behind her with the Clean 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: Air Initiative, right, And she's using the example of how 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: positive it was when we took smoking out of indoor 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: areas like restaurants, airplanes, et cetera. And I understand that, 30 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: and I get behind that, But I think the mass 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: criticism she's getting is a that her father is like 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: a Cereal chain smoker, always smoking in every single environment. 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: And how are you trying to urge the government to 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: make changes when you can't even convince your dad to 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: make a change. And then I also saw Megan McCain 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: was criticizing her, saying, you know, she's also the daughter 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: of famous people, and her parents would have never let 38 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: her go up on a stage at such a young age, 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: with having no background at all and talk about such 40 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: serious topics. It's so I think, you know, she could 41 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: potentially have a good message with the Clean Air Initiative, 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: but I think a lot of people are just looking 43 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: at it as she's this NEPO baby with no background 44 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: whatsoever in the science behind all of this and she 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: has no reason to be up there talking to these people. 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: It just the whole thing of it just kind of 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: blows my mind because you're like, they're only there X 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: amount of minutes and you're giving this person with this 49 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: message this time to talk. There's nothing else in the 50 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: world that was more pressing than this right now. Well, 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: I think the big question too, is how did she 52 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: even get there? Because her parents are Ben Affleck and 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: Jennifer Gardner like that, I know, but. 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: That's like the criticism is that a normal person that's 55 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: she's she's marked as a youth advocate there right, A 56 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: normal youth advocate that's a regular, everyday person would not 57 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: be able to go up there and speak like that. 58 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: So it's just like, I think a lot of people 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: are seeing it as something embarrassing, not just she was. 60 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't it doesn't like you're saying the whole clean air 61 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: thing and all. It just doesn't make any sense to me. 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, lady, if you want to wear 63 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: a mask, wear a mask. Like she's trying to tell 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: the government that everybody should wear a mask at all time, 65 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: Like she's out of her mind. That's that's out of 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: your mind talk. 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: But also if you have, if you have like a 68 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: breathing issue because of poor air, don't live in Los Angeles, 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: which has notoriously horrible air pollution. I just see it 70 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,559 Speaker 2: as ridiculous. 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I just see it as not think if you want 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: to if any person like you see people all the 73 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: time in their car by themselves with a mask with 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: the windows up, like, if you want to do that, fine, 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: go ahead. But but like for the rest for the 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: rest of us seeing people here, no, and there is 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: there is definitely a time and a place for it, 78 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: that time and place being people who are immunosuppressed and 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: need to have wear something like in n ninety five, 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: like one of one of the guys that goes to 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: my kid's school has cancer, right, and I saw him 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: at one of the back to school events the other 83 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: night wearing one. Totally appropriate because you're immuno suppressed and 84 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: you should be wearing one. Everyone else like, absolutely not. 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: And it it really you know, if COVID never happened, 86 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: people would think that vilet afflic was completely out of 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: her mind, right, Like every single person would be like 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: this is this is outrageous that this girl's even saying that, 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: but now that COVID happened, which by the way, is 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: just as transmissible as like so many other things that 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: occurred before COVID, Like, it's just not it's nothing to me. 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: And the fact that so many people are just actually 93 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: sitting there and even listening to it is really disturbing 94 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: to me that they're letting her do that and she's 95 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: embarrassing herself. 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and I think of you know, when people 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: have a lot of issues with NEPO babies. I think 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: situations like this. I don't think in every case just 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 2: because somebody has famous parents doesn't mean they haven't worked 100 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: hard and haven't earned where they are in their spot 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: and whatever. But when you see situations like this, you're like, 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: why is this kid up there? What is she talking about? 103 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: And from the news outlets I've seen in the social 104 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: media response, I don't think very many people thought she 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: was being this hero that she thought she was being. 106 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: It's it scares me. 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm saying, I feel terrible for her, 108 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: I really do, and her her it's her parents' responsibility 109 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: to be like sweetheart. 110 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Now, No, well I don't. The way it comes across 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: to me is that Jennifer Gardner's totally behind her with this, 112 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: and I don't know how present of the parent Ben 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: Affleck is there anything, but like he's clearly not taking 114 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: your advice. He's always photographed smoking cigarettes everywhere he goes. 115 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: The funny thing is is that she keeps saying that 116 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: I guess she's suffering from symptoms of long COVID, which 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: I've like, honestly, I've never looked into enough to know 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: if it's you know, people say they're having all these 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: symptoms or whatever she's saying, and you know, some of 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: the symptoms that she's having include shortness of breath and 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: trouble concentrating in these things. And I'm just like, could 122 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: it be because you're wearing a mask all day? Is 123 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: that possible? Well, I wasn't just putting it out there, 124 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: Like listen, I've had to wear one for work several times, 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: like for actual reasons, for to prevent getting TB from 126 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: either a specimen or an autopsy, And it's just more 127 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: difficult to breathe when you're wearing them all day long 128 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: at work. Like I don't care what anybody says it is. 129 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, when I think back to the height 130 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: of COVID the summer of twenty twenty. I'm working at 131 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: the restaurant. It's hot outside. We had to wear them. 132 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: It was terrible. Everybody felt like they were going to 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: pass out all the time. 134 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, I just think I think a 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: lot of people do it because they're just I think 136 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: of a lot of the times. It's sometimes like I 137 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: like to wear my glasses, like I feel like if 138 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't have them on, I feel like naked or something. 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: It's just weird. Maybe that's how they feel. They just 140 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: feel like safer with it on their face. And like, listen, 141 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: like I don't give a shit if people wear them, 142 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: they could do whatever they want. But to come on 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: there and try to act like like like were they 144 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: actually listening to what she was saying. She wants all 145 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: children to be wearing those things all the time. Well, 146 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I think nobody should have even let that get said 147 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: out loud on a stage. 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: It's just outrageous. Well, I think that's why, in part 149 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: why she's get you know, criticized, because I think if 150 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: you had a legitimate scientist go up there and be 151 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: like we've conducted all these studies and provided all this 152 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: scientific backing and presented a credible argument, you would be 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: taken a little more seriously. I mean, of course you 154 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: should still take the consideration it under. 155 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: There's no scientist that's ever going to get up and 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: say that, because it's so outrageous, Like you're the teenage 157 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: child of two movie stars, so and you're, yeah, you 158 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: go to Yale, but for what. 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't I just I don't know. I just think 160 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: it was ridiculous, Okay. On Saturday, a twenty seven year 161 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: old circus acrobat was doing a solo trapeze act in 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: front of one hundred people when suddenly she fell sixteen 163 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: feet and died. Did you see the video? I didn't. 164 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: I saw it. 165 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: It's you know, I was thinking when when I read it, 166 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: sixteen feet isn't really that high. I mean it's high, 167 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: Like I don't ever, I don't want to from sixteen 168 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: feet for sure, but usually that results in maybe some 169 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: kind of traumatic injuries, broken bones, death is I don't 170 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: really know. But I mean she was swinging trapeeze, so 171 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: it's not a very clear video, so I couldn't see 172 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: exactly how she fell onto the ground. But if she fell, 173 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: I guess on her abdomen or her head. Even then 174 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: that could have definitely caused more severe problems which actually 175 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: happened to her because she's dead. 176 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: But I think there is speculation that maybe she had 177 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: like a health issue or something, because they're trying to 178 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: say that she was so experienced that in general, she 179 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't have necessarily made a mistake like that, even though 180 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: she wasn't wearing a safety rope. But the fall wasn't 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: that high, So I think that's where everybody's kind of 182 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: coming in saying this seems unusual that she would have 183 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: just fallen. I mean, but you could fall from a 184 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: short distance like that and just hit your neck the 185 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: wrong way or something. Yeah, totally, yeah. 186 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: It just we have another story actually in this episode 187 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: talking about someone that fell for a much greater distance, 188 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: which you could understand, you know, would cause life threatening injuries, 189 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: but in this case. You know, I've been a couple 190 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: of these acrobat shows and they're so good, they're just 191 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: so amazing, and I just watch the people and think, 192 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: if you really watch these people that right walk on 193 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: the tightrope and all this stuff, and they don't have 194 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: any kind of harness, it's just it's really, really amazing 195 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: that there's not more things like that that happen. 196 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: Oh totally. This episode is brought to you by the 197 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: Grosser Room guys. 198 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: This week's high profile that the section was on the 199 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: DC Sniper. I highly recommend you read that one. And 200 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: we also have a crazy case of an IUD gone wrong. 201 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen this particular side effect of an IUD 202 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: or complication, I guess you would say. And we have 203 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: a very unusual way a woman killed herself. All that 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: and more in the gross Room for only five ninety 205 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: nine a month. 206 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: Head over to the grossroom dot com now to sign up. 207 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: All right, So now we have a string of stories 208 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: about things that happen on recreational rides. 209 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: All right. So back in twenty twenty one, the six 210 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: year old girl went on the Haunted Mind Drop at 211 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: Glenwood Cavern's Adventure Park in Colorado with some family members. 212 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: So when they were getting on the ride, there's this 213 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: safety feature built into the ride that'll let the operators 214 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: know if something is off with the seatbelts or the ride. 215 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: So that system was going off and they kept repeatedly 216 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: checking it but didn't see an issue, so then they 217 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: over they ended up overriding it and sending the ride 218 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: along its way. But they didn't realize that this girl 219 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: was sitting on top of part of the seatbelt and 220 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: not fully strapped in. So then when the ride went 221 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: it operates kind of similar to Tower and Terror, you know 222 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: those free fall drop rides. Okay, so when the ride started, 223 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: you know, everybody's screaming, they're not really paying attention. The 224 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: ride comes to an end, and then her family members 225 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: realize she's not in her seat, and then they see 226 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: her at the bottom of the ride because she fell 227 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: out of the seat. 228 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't even imagine. Like the uncle 229 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I turned around to see if 230 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: she was enjoying the ride, to see the little look 231 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: on her face, and she was gone. Could you freakin 232 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: imagine that? 233 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: No, So they think she fell about one hundred and 234 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: ten feet to the bottom of the ride, which is 235 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: so far. But yeah, the family at that time had 236 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 2: filed a wrongful debt suit and they've now been awarded 237 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 2: two hundred and five million dollars. Well, another worst part 238 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: of it is is that when they discovered that the 239 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: girl was missing, they started screaming to stop the ride, 240 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: and they still brought them back up again to do 241 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: the drop again. Could you. 242 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: I just can't even imagine. And I'm glad that they're 243 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: winning a lawsuit because this is one hundred percent lawsuit 244 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: where the you know, every this is the thing every 245 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: single time my kids go on rides. Like people might 246 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: think that I'm a total crazy person, because I am, 247 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: but I checked to make when they get on. I 248 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: just checked and say pull your seatbelt up, pull your 249 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: harness up, like I want to physically see that this 250 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: is checked because you have especially down the shore. It's 251 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: all kids that are running these rides. They're teenage kids 252 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: that are running it, and they're just not paying attention 253 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: like that that you would hope they were. So even 254 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: though this ride took into account for that and had 255 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: safety mechanisms in place, they still got they still got 256 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: overlooked and missed. And then this kid ended up dying 257 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: from it, which is just it's so terrible, what a 258 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: terrible thing for the whole entire family to go through. 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: Well, personally, I don't think that you should be able 260 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: to override the system's settings. You should just shut the 261 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: ride down if it's not letting you operate it or 262 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: it says there's an error, Yeah, you should not be 263 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: to override that and keep it going. 264 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: This is what we were talking about this weekend when 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: we had Caroline and Lyle over and their kids. 266 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: When we were talking about. 267 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: I said, I personally feel safe for going on rides 268 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: at Disney World because I feel like they have so 269 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: much to lose if someone gets hurt. And it's I 270 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's true because there I just maybe it's 271 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: a false sense of security, but I think that they 272 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: just overdo everything to make sure that nothing like that 273 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: ever happens because of imagine, imagine now with the social media, 274 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: the visual of something like that happening and that being 275 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: caught on film, it would ruin somewhere like Disney or something, 276 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: you know. 277 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: So they have like the PR. 278 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: They don't want the PR crisis, so they go out 279 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: of their way with just extra safety features and rules 280 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and things like that. And this particular case is just 281 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: especially that the kid was was with the with her 282 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: uncle and not the parent, you know what I mean. 283 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: Like it's just think about like going on after that 284 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: and all the what ifs, and like I shouldn't have 285 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: taken her on that ride. And this is my fault, 286 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: and she'd be alive still if I didn't bring her, 287 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, just like I can't imagine what the family 288 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: went through with that. 289 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: Well. I don't know if you looked up pictures of 290 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: the park, but it is this gorgeous amusement park in 291 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: the middle of Colorado in the mountains. It's so cool looking. 292 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: But after hearing an incident like this and it's seeming 293 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: like total negligence on behalf of the park, I don't 294 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: know if I could ever trust going on anything there. Yeah, no, 295 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: I agree, all right. So this TikTok is going viral 296 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: showing a woman on a cruise water slide with part 297 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: of the slide hanging over the edge of the boat 298 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: and she appears to be stuck. I can't imagine how 299 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: terrifying this must be. 300 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: It looks so scary and she's like scooting her body 301 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: trying to get through. And the comments are hilarious on this. 302 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Actually some person said that it was did you. 303 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: See that one? I'm trying to see. 304 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh, so it's a water slide that goes over the ocean, 305 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and someone called it a death. 306 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: Tube over shark soup. It really, it really is. 307 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: So I guess this particular water slide. Although it wasn't 308 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: mentioned in the TikTok, many people figured out which cruise 309 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: ship it was from, and they describe it as hanging 310 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: eleven feet off of the side of the ship and 311 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty nine feet above the ocean, and 312 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: it's a clear tube, clear ish tube that you could 313 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of see through. So the company offered a statement 314 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that said that the slide shows in the footage features 315 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: and escape patch for guests who exit safely when they 316 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: cannot complete an experience due to factors like not wearing 317 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: the recommended swim attire or weight of the guests, et cetera. 318 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, why would you let those people on If you 319 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: know there's potential issues that you have to have a 320 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: safety escape patch, then why let those people go on 321 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: this slide? So that's the escape patch that sis in. No, 322 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: she probably had to crawl a little further because I 323 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: assumed the escape patch had to be on the ship 324 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: somewhere in the ship. You can't get out over the ocean. 325 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: That's that's what I was confused about. 326 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: But on top of that, I mean, obviously I didn't 327 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: get to analyze this situation one hundred percent, but just 328 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: based on the video, she doesn't look too skinny or 329 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: too fat. She looks like she's wearing a normal bathing suit. 330 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: What the problem looks like to me is that there's 331 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: no water in the frickin' tube. There's no water coming 332 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: through the tube, and usually it's gushing. 333 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, you know what. It reminded me too of a 334 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we had the story that 335 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: there was that giant hole in the water slide. Oh 336 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: my god, and thinking about you know, that potentially happening 337 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: and falling into the ocean. I mean, at that point, 338 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: you're just a gone. I just don't like water slides. 339 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't like cruise ships. I don't like going outside. 340 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't like fun. Well, your mother is going on 341 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: another cruise, so we can make fun that we're not. 342 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: Lily sent me some video the other day of all 343 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: this water I guess coming from the pool deck because 344 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, all these cruise ships are out right now, 345 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: but those two hurricanes are in the middle of the 346 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: ocean right now, so the water is really rough and 347 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: they're just showing like all these dishes flying off the wall, 348 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: this pool water spelling, and people, you know, just not 349 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: being able to gain their balance because the boat is 350 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: rocking so bad, and I just don't understand the appeal 351 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: of it. It was nice the boat. The boat ride 352 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: was nice, yeah, because we had perfect water. Imagine if 353 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: it was rocky. 354 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. 355 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it, all right. So 356 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: your favorite ride, the Zipper, had a major malfunction at 357 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: a carnival in Las Vegas over the weekend where one 358 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: of the carriages just fell off the ride in the 359 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: middle of it and slammed into another one. 360 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: I hate that ride. That's like one of my right 361 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: story when I was thirty. Yeah, when I was thirteen 362 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: years old. So this is uh fa, I guess you 363 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: would say it's a Ferris wheel that goes a little bit. 364 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? It's it's similar, Yeah, it's 365 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: half Ferris. It's it's like a Ferris. Yeah, it's like 366 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: a smaller Ferris root wheel, but it goes around in 367 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: that motion, but it goes fast. 368 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: And the canes flipped too. Yeah. 369 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: Each individual car is like a cage and it flips 370 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: upside down as it's going around the circle. So of 371 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: course I went on one at a carnival ride when 372 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old and through my mouth filled 373 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: up with vomit and I had to let it out 374 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: and it went all over my friend next to me, 375 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: who's not my friend anymore. So I could imagine how 376 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: that went down. But I remember, you know what, it 377 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: was in the parking lot at the Chelon Mall when 378 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: the Chelon Mall was the thing, and I remember that 379 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I went up to a couple of the stands that 380 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: were like selling popcorn and stuff and no one had 381 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: napkins and I had to go in Boss Gobs or 382 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: whatever the store was at the time and get something 383 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: because I had puke all over me. 384 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: It was terrible. 385 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: And that was I didn't have a phone or anything 386 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: because that was you know before that, so I had 387 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: to call momm and pop up on a payphone and 388 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: tell them to come pick me up. It was just 389 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: so anyway, every single time I saw that ride, I 390 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: was like, that's like extra spinny. 391 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: I can't go on that thing. Like kind couldn't believe 392 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: it because they it looks really bad in the video 393 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: and they said no injuries were reported, yeah. 394 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: And it just said that there was a malfunction, and 395 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, the car fell off of the ride. 396 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what the malfunction is. It looks like 397 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: they were slamming into each other. I mean, I'm sure 398 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: people got banged up in bruises, but luckily nobody got 399 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: seriously hurt. 400 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. I know everybody already makes fun of 401 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: me for the way I am, But whenever I see 402 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: those rides, do you ever see them driving on the 403 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: highway when they're going to set up? I'm just like, 404 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: these rides are getting set up and broken down so often, 405 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 2: how are they possibly stable? Well? 406 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: I actually wanted to mention that big because there's so 407 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: carnival rides, which I don't think many people know. They 408 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: don't have federal inspections like other rides do. So we 409 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: were talking about the ride in the first case, which 410 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: was terrible, which those rides actually have federal inspections, and 411 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: there were safety features on that ride, but you could 412 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: still see that human error took a part in that, 413 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: and it was there's nothing wrong with that first ride 414 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: that we talked about at all. It was functioning properly. 415 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: It was an operator error that caused that child to die. 416 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: There was nothing wrong with the ride itself. Because of 417 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: these federal regulations, whereas with amusement rides, they not only 418 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: don't have federal regulations so they don't have to have 419 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: safety inspections like that, but on top of that, they're 420 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: being assembled and reassembled all the time, and they're in 421 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: different environments which we know, like, for example, the rides 422 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: down the shore are more prone to getting erosion because 423 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: of the salt quality in the air. But if you're 424 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: going from like an environment that humid with a high 425 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: salt quality in the air, and then you go to 426 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: the desert with the same rides, like you're the materials 427 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: expanding and contracting and things like that, like that all 428 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: has to be taken into consideration. So there's just an 429 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: increased risk in general of those types of rides having problems. 430 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: And on top of that, there was this journal done, 431 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: this journal called the medical Journal Clinical Pediatrics, and they 432 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: found that merry go rounds and carousels and rides that 433 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: are considered to be like safe account for twenty percent 434 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: of the accidents that are seen and the injuries that 435 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: are seen with rides. And so when you go to 436 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: a carnival, you always look and you're like, Okay, they're 437 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: not like super major If I fell off one, it 438 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: wouldn't it would hurt, but I wouldn't die or something 439 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: like that, you know, and that actually accounts for more injuries. 440 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, guys, Well, we're going to be at 441 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: the Wildlife CSI I linked to Bias Wildlife Park this 442 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: Friday evening and then the following weekend will be sponsoring 443 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: the golf Carts and Keeping Hope Alive Golf Classic. And 444 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: after that on the eighteenth, will be at Darkside, New 445 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: Jersey in Edison. Awesome. See you guys. Yeah, head over 446 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: to avla, Spotify, leave us for review scripture YouTube channel, 447 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: and as always, if you have stories for us, please 448 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: sumit them to stories at mothernosdeath dot com. 449 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder, 450 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. 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