1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The court has ruled against Donald Trump. No shocker there 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: and his gag order appeal. Clearly it is election interference. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: The fact that Michael Cohen can make money off of 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: attacking Donald Trump as the starlying witness of this entire 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: court case pending on hinging on his testimony, and it 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: has been a total you know what show during his 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: time in front of the court. Now, let's go back 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: to the gag order that I started with a second ago. 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Former President Trump will remain and gag during his criminal 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: trial in Manhattan. The New York Appeals Court has ruled 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Trump can now petition. However, the New York Court of 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Appeals the gag order prevents Trump from making public comments 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: about witnesses participating in the trial. That obviously means he's 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about Michael Cohen, even though Michael 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Cohen is allowed to talk about him, do a podcast, 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: make money attacking Trump anywhere they'll put him on TV, 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: and he's doing it a lot, So. 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: That's number one. 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Also, he is gaged from talking about the council other 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: than the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, members of the 21 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: court's staff, and the District Attorney's staff. Or the family 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: members of any council or staff member, if those statements 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: are made with the intent to materially interfere with the 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: councils or staff's work on the case. It also encompasses 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: prospective jurors. The order reads, we find that Justice Merchant 26 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: properly waged Petitioners' First Amendment rights against the Court's historical 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: commitment to ensuring the fair administration of justice in criminal 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: cases and the right of persons related or tangibly related 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: to the criminal proceedings from being free from threats, intimidation, harassment, 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: and harm. Yet all of those things can happen to 31 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the former president of the United States of America, 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: while he's the front runner running for president, and while 33 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: everyone else can rip on him, he can't defend himself. 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they say the judge did it great. 35 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: Justice Merchant properly determined the petitioner's public statements pose a significant. 36 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: Threat to the integrity. 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: The order goes on to say of the testimony of 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: witnesses and potential witnesses in this case as well. Donald 39 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Trump's team argue that the gag order is unconstitutional. You 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: asked my question, ask me questions I'm not allowed to respond, 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: is what Trump told reporters Tuesday morning before walking into 42 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: the courtroom. Quote, the gag order has to come off, 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: the President said, I've got a lot more on this, 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: but let me tell you real quick about my cell 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: phone provider. 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: And an important notice for you. 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: If you have a cell phone, you may not realize 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: that when you pay your bill every month to Big Mobile, 49 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: you are funding the left. 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Ben 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: you'll get free activation as well. Nine to seven to 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: two Patriot. Now, let me go back to what Trump 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: had argued in this gag order, saying it is quote unconstitutional. 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Earlier in May, New. 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: York court judge Merchant ruled for a second time that 93 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: Trump violated his gag order during the trial, holding him 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: in criminal contempt and threatening to jail him for any 95 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: further infractions. Merchant find Trump one thousand dollars for a 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: single violation, previously fined Trump for nine different violations. 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Trump's tenth contempt defense. 98 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Occurred before the last order and not afterwards. Trump did 99 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: not push the boundaries after the gag order ruling. Apparently 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: he was looking for the state to step in or 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: this appeals court, and they did not. 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: Now, obviously he can appeal. 103 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: Now we'll see what the president decides to do, which 104 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: brings me back to this court case. James Carvill. He's 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: a former Clinton strategist. James Carvill is a guy that 106 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: is well known in democratic circles to give brilliant advice to. 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Democratic candidates and. 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Causes losing his mind now because he says what we 109 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: were hoping was going to happen in this court case 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: is not working. Take a listen to what he had 111 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: to say, and then also what tw Shannon had to 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: say on the Trump hush money trial as well on 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: Fox Trump's. 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: Boy ahead than he's ever been more fewer people think 115 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: January sixth was of any kind of What it was 116 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: was an assault on the temple of democracy to a constitution. 117 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: I don't know, whatever you want to say, it's going 118 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: the wrong way. It's not working. Everything that we're throwing 119 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: is spaghetti at a wall, and none of it is 120 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: sticking me. 121 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 4: Included are you seeing and believing what you're hearing from 122 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 4: democratic and we. 123 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Know who he is. 124 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 4: James Carville, analysts, strategists, wear's a lot of. 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Hats right now. 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: He's wearing the hat of saying the quiet part out loud. 127 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: I thought the justice system was justice system, but he 128 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: says everything that Democrats are throwing at them, well, that's 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: an admission that this is all part of what some 130 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 4: kind of a game against Trump, and it's not working. 131 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: TW Shannon, former Oklahoma House speaker and attorney himself. When 132 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: you lose, James Carville and Al Sharpton saying similarly, like 133 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: how can democrats talk about January sixth. If all the 134 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: protesting is going on and so on and so forth, 135 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: we look like what we say we hate. 136 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: Or whatever I'm paraphrasing here. 137 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 5: It's like animal farm Haris where you know, we've all 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: become the pigs in this country now the very thing 139 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 5: we say we hate, the Democrats have actually become. I mean, listen, 140 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: this is what you've got to believe if you believe 141 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 5: this case. Because the Democrats can't be Donald Trump at 142 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 5: the ballot box. They're trying to beat them in the 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 5: jury box. But the truth is, this case is built 144 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: on two things. It's built on a liar, a professional liar, 145 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: and a whore. And I use that as a biblical 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: term because she's accepted money for sex. But you've got 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: the liar now who's actually horing himself out selling merch 148 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: and propaganda the trial. 149 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 6: And you've got the whore who's actually become the liar. 150 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: I mean, this whole case in and of itself flies 151 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 5: in the face of our very democracy, our republic, our 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 5: founding fathers are turning over because at the end of 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: the day, what you've got to believe, if you believe 154 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: the case of Alvin Brad's is that Donald Trump should 155 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 5: have used campaign funds in order to obtain this agreement 156 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 5: that he had with Stormy Daniels. As part of the 157 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 5: agreement that they have as a non disclosure. This is 158 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 5: not a campaign expense. Cohen even admitted it. Yes, Yes, 159 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: So the fact that this case has fallen apart, we 160 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 5: see it happening before our very eyes. And I'm so 161 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: glad we've got the Speaker of the House and others 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: there because this is a constitutional crisis that we're facing, 163 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: and these people have taken an oath of office. They 164 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: should be there in support of our president. Anybody should 165 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 5: who cares about this country in the constitution. 166 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 167 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, he did admit to that yesterday. 168 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: He admitted he paid for it. 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: He admitted that he did this the way that Donald 170 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Trump said it was done, and that he's also a 171 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: serial liar. 172 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: In Michael Cohen. 173 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: And yet the entire case hinges on his testimony. Many politicians, 174 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: by the way, on the Republican side are now stepping 175 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: up and showing a very focused support strategy for Donald Trump. 176 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson saying this earlier today 177 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: about the entire case. 178 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 7: President Trump is a friend, and I wanted to be 179 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 7: here to support him. I'm here speaking with you outside 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 7: because the court won't allow us to speak inside the building. 181 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 8: That's just one of the many things that are wrong here. 182 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 7: This is the fifth week that President Trump has been 183 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 7: in court for this sham of a trial. They are 184 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 7: doing this intentionally to keep him here and keep him 185 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 7: off of the campaign trail. I think everybody in the 186 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 7: country can see that for what it is. I'm an attorney, 187 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 7: I'm a former litigator myself. 188 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 8: I am disgusted by what is happening here. 189 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 7: What is being done here to our entire system of 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 7: justice overall. The people are losing faith right now in 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 7: this country, in our institutions. They're losing faith in our 192 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 7: system of justice. And the reason for that is because 193 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 7: they see it being abused as it is being done. 194 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 8: Here in New York. The facts here are very important. 195 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 7: Facts are always important in a trial, or at least 196 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 7: they're supposed to be. The President's actions in this matter 197 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 7: were previously reviewed and no charges were filed. Why is 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 7: that because there's no crime here. Now eight years later, 199 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 7: suddenly they've resurrected this thing. They brought it back, And 200 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 7: why is that we'll just apply common sense. Everyone can see. 201 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 7: It's painfully obvious that we are now six months out 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 7: from an election day, and that's the reason, that is 203 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 7: the reason why they brought these charges here and across 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 7: the country. 205 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Eight years later, they brought it back. 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson absolutely rat right where he said, the facts 207 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: are very important. The facts are important in this trial, 208 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: at least they were supposed to be. And this is 209 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: a witch hunt. There was no crime, right, that's what 210 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: he said. The President's actions in this matter were previously 211 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: reviewed by the DOJ and no charges were filed. Why 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: is that because there was no crime here? Now eight 213 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: years later, suddenly they resurrect this saying they brought it back. 214 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: And why well, because it's six months out from an election, 215 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: and that's the reason. That's the reason why they brought 216 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: these charges here and across the country to try to 217 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: have real interference in this election. 218 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: Which brings me to Alan Dersowitz. 219 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz went on Newsmax and he said this about 220 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: the Democrats and what they're doing. 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 9: Purpose of this trial is threefold. Number one, to convict 222 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 9: him down and dirty before the election. Although we'll get 223 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 9: reversed after the election. Number two, to have a gag 224 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 9: order on him, and number three to keep him locked 225 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 9: up in the courtroom so he can't That's a campaign 226 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 9: and those goals may very well be accomplished. This is 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 9: election interference at its most obvious. And every American, no 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 9: matter whether you're for Trump or against them, I'm not 229 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 9: you know, I voted for Biden. Whatever your political affiliation is, 230 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 9: I'm a Democrat. You should be equally concerned about how 231 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 9: this legal system is being weaponized and abused for partisan purposes. 232 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Alan Dirtzewitz, by the way, is no massive Trump fan. 233 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: To be clear, this is a guy that's been more liberal. 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: He's a guy that is a Harvard law professor. 235 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 2: But he is right. 236 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: The three reasons convict him down and dirty before the 237 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: election is to say, look, he's a convicted guy. Right, 238 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: This guy's a criminal. Donald Trump's a criminal. You don't 239 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: want a criminal, believe the president of the United States 240 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: of America. 241 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 8: Never. 242 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: By the way, don't let's not talk about comparing contrast 243 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: with the Biden crime family and what they've gotten away with. 244 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: But he's right that that's number one. Number two, he's 245 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: right to have a gaggard on him. So he can't 246 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: defend himself against the attacks from Michael Cohen or anyone 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: else in the left that is involved in this trial, 248 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: which is also again disgusting. And as he said number three, 249 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: which I actually think is the Democrat's most important reason 250 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: for doing this, and the timing of it, is to 251 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: keep Donald Trump locked up in the courtroom so he 252 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: can't go out on the campaign trail, and those goals 253 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: may very well be accomplished here. He said, this is 254 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: election interference, and it's most obvious in every American, no 255 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: matter whether you're for Trump or against him, you should 256 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: be able to see it. And I agree with him, 257 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: by the way, this is something that everyone should be 258 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: able to see. 259 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: Now. 260 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Republicans are coming to his aid. I 261 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: think this is a smart response. If you can't be 262 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: out there campaigning, then at least have people that are 263 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: out there at campaigning on your behalf, making statement on 264 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: your behalf, have a united front here to talk about 265 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: just how egregious all of this is. 266 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: Having the Speaker of the House. 267 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Go to New York to this court to do this 268 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: press conference and to answer these questions and to bring 269 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: up these different things that he just did. Is exactly 270 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: what the conservative movement should be doing for Donald J. 271 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: Trump because he cannot campaign right now. And everybody knows it, 272 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: like every like, the Democrats know it, the media know it. 273 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: They all know it. 274 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Byron Donald's said this outside the courthouse as well as 275 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: he was sitting there with Vivik Garramswami and others. 276 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 10: Listen, ladies and gentlemen of America. This this trial is 277 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 10: a joke. This thing is a farce. We were in 278 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 10: there all morning. Michael Cowen basically sat there and said, yeah, 279 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 10: he did voids legal expenses. The Trump campaign, the Trump organization, 280 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 10: not the campaign, paid out money in legal expenses. Where's 281 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 10: the crime. There is no crime. The crime that's happening 282 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 10: here is this Democrat judge and the Democrat Party prosecuting 283 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 10: their political rival right in the middle of a presidential election. 284 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 10: The crime here is that the issues facing our nation 285 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 10: are not being addressed by the Democrats, but they want 286 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 10: to go after Donald Trump. 287 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 8: And there's nothing wrong. 288 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 10: There's nothing that has been wrong here, nothing that has 289 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 10: been done poorly by President Trump. The only thing that's 290 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 10: being done wrong is by this judge. His daughter's making 291 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 10: money raising money for Democrats, and all of the fundraising 292 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 10: emails and all the fundraising things are about this trial 293 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 10: that his daughter is using. He will recuse himself. This 294 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 10: is a travesty of justice, This is a misuse of 295 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 10: the justice system. And look around New York. New York's 296 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 10: got plenty of issues. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. You 297 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 10: have all of NYPD's finance down here because of this 298 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 10: travesty going on in that courtroom. Meanwhile, the citizens of 299 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 10: New York are less safe, and the district attorney in 300 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 10: New York is not prosecuting real crime. 301 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 8: He's a sorrow's. 302 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 10: Back da going after his chief political rival in Donald Trump. 303 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 10: America is better than this, and so unfortunately it's going 304 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 10: to take the American people this November to let their 305 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 10: voices be heard on this travesty of justice that's occurring 306 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 10: and making sure that Donald Trump is the forty seventh 307 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 10: president of the United States. 308 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: Byron Donald's, I think brings up some really good points here. 309 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: And look, the media is filling this as well. George Stepanopolis, 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: former Press Secretary, White House Press Secretary, Bill Clinton, a 311 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: guy that you now know on NBC News or is 312 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: it CBS. I can't even remember because I never watched 313 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: it anymore, but he hosts that, you know, Good Morning America, 314 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and he was on MSNBC and one 315 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: of the things that he said on MSNBC is that 316 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: if Trump wins, the situation room quote unquote will be uncontrolled. 317 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: This is exactly what the media and the left said 318 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: last time. Trump was going to if he became president 319 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: in sixteen, Right, Oh, he's going to take us into 320 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: World War three? 321 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: Did he put us in any wars? No, he didn't. 322 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: He did not put us in any wars. 323 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 10: Oh. 324 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: He can't be trusted with the nuclear codes. 325 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 8: Right? 326 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: What are the checks and balances that the president decides to, 327 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, shoot a nuclear weapon in another country? Is 328 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: are people in place to stop him? 329 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 10: Right? 330 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 2: Those are the That was the media coverage. 331 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: You can't trust Donald Trump with nuclear weapons. He may 332 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: just wake up one day and decided to start blowing 333 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: up the world. I guess Democrats think, all right, well 334 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: we got to go back to that. It worked last time, 335 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: we might as well do it again this time. Listen 336 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: to George Stephanopol. Listen his own words. 337 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 11: It's going to be uncontrolled. 338 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 10: You know. 339 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 11: One of the things that I point out, and others 340 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 11: pointed out as well. But I pointed out in my 341 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 11: chapter on President Trump is the most damning testimony of 342 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 11: his confidence and character comes from those who had the 343 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 11: most senior level positions in the White House situation where 344 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 11: he was supered under them. From James Mattis, Defense Secretary, 345 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 11: From John Bolton, his National Security advisor, From John Kelly, 346 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 11: his White House chief of staff, who all talk about 347 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 11: how frightened they are by the prospect that he would 348 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 11: become president again, apparently with no guardrails, without the kind 349 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 11: of people who are serving him in the first term. 350 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 11: Instead of having guardrails, it appears that he's going to 351 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 11: have a bunch of enablers like those who see you 352 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 11: sitting with him in the courtroom over the last several days, 353 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 11: and something that is chilling to many of those who 354 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 11: served in the situation room and during the first administration 355 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 11: but are no longer supporting President Trump. 356 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: I love, by the way, how the left they do this. 357 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: They start bringing up all these guys like John Kelly. 358 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: They hated John Kelly, by the way, they hate John Bolton, right, 359 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: these people that they bring up now acting like they're 360 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: great statesman and James Mattis. These guys were the biggest 361 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: scumbags in the world when they were working for Trump 362 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: in the eyes of the media, and now they're like, oh, 363 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: well there's some sort of great heroes here. These are 364 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: patriots and Donald Trump's not going to have them around him. 365 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Do you remember how much they ripped on Donald Trump 366 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: and his National Security Advisor John Bolton? Do you remember 367 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: that they're like, oh, he's a racist, is a bigot 368 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: his NFO. 369 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: Remember that. 370 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now they're like, oh, he's a great patriot because 371 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: he's speaking out against Trump. Let me also play for 372 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: you something that I think is interesting. And Jonathan you 373 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: was on Fox News. He's a law professor, and he 374 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: was talking about the Trump trial in general, and Michael 375 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Cohen being there and saying, you know, Mike Cohen confirms 376 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: he threatened to sue companies on behalf of Trump. Remember 377 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: he was the man, right, He was a big man 378 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: with a big stick, who now is making money off 379 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: of attacking his former client. Actually not making money, making 380 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: a living off of being a Trump hater. He's a 381 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: guy that's also been convicted of line. So if you 382 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: want to know if you should trust this guy, look 383 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: at his rap sheet. But listen to what he has 384 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: to say a out this trial. It's very interesting perspective Nation. 385 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 12: It's good to have you, John. I want you to 386 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 12: listen to President Trump. This is right before court today 387 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 12: declaring his innocence. 388 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 11: There's a political witches and nobody's ever seen anything like that. 389 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 9: I tell you what the Abello Division on the judges. 390 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: You step in because this judge is getting away with 391 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: this racial including the. 392 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 13: Fact that we have thousands of people, we have one 393 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 13: hundred thousands of people in the jujus they would like 394 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 13: to show their support. 395 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: John. 396 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 12: Is it possible that the appellate division would step in here? 397 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 12: I mean that seems highly unusual, but it's not totally 398 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 12: out of the question, is it, Teane. 399 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 6: I think it's unlikely. 400 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 13: I think what the Court's going to do is let 401 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 13: Judge Merchon finish out the trial, get to a verdict, 402 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 13: and then hear all the legal issues at the same time. 403 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 13: And part of that is because this case is so 404 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 13: riddled with mistakes and problems that the appellate Court would 405 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 13: have to pingpong this quick case back and forth with 406 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 13: this trial judge repeatedly if it was going to try 407 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 13: to fix all the errors. As I went on. 408 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 6: Part of that is the trial judges. 409 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 13: I think strategy here is just to steamroll through all 410 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 13: the problems, all the ones you've been hearing about on 411 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 13: your panel this morning, with the failure to find any 412 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 13: kind of legal crimes that have been committed, the failure 413 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 13: to connect what happened last week with that explosive Stormy 414 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 13: Daniel's testimony with the actual charges, the problems with ambiguity 415 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 13: of the indictment, not even telling President Trump what the 416 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 13: real crimes are. So I think this is going to 417 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 13: have to wait for a pellet review before it could 418 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 13: be fixed. Maybe Judge Child will come to a census 419 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 13: and it quit Trump before they even have to add on. 420 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 12: So I know, I know, I just had to ask 421 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 12: in case how the president brings it up. I like 422 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 12: to ask a smart person about it, and that would 423 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 12: be you today. 424 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 14: Cohen is now describing how they communicated with each other. 425 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 14: He says Trump never had an email address. Cohen says 426 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 14: Trump made comments about people quote getting in trouble or 427 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 14: gone down as a direct result of using emails because 428 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 14: prosecutors can follow the paper trayal So that's Cohen, I's 429 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 14: wrong I thought, as we have seen time and time again, 430 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 14: Jonathan Turlely, jump on back in here, because it seems 431 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 14: pretty straightforward now, like the trial's been clarified, and it's 432 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 14: been clarified to this point. It's Cohen's word against everybody else. 433 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: Do you see it that way? 434 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 6: Well, well, we've already learned a couple of things. 435 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 15: One is that a vortex did not open up the 436 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 15: minute Cohen took the oath, and I have the entire 437 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 15: courtroom disappear into another world, so we can check that off. 438 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 15: Because the fact that Cohen is taking yet another oath 439 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 15: itself was quite an attraction. And obviously he's going to 440 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 15: get queasin arted on cross examination. But it was really 441 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 15: interesting before his testimony to watch this effort to get 442 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 15: in the agreement of the accountant. That was such an 443 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 15: obvious and dishonest move by the prosecutors. 444 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 6: You have to under whether this judge. 445 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 15: Is having second thoughts about his failure to stop this 446 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 15: case or at least force the prosecution to be clear 447 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 15: about it. There's nothing stopping the prosecutor from calling that accountant, 448 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 15: So the introduction of that agreement was clearly intended to 449 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 15: suggest to the jury they have some smoking gun evidence, 450 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 15: but because of this agreement they can't present it. That's 451 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 15: entirely untrue, and so the Merchant was right to say, 452 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 15: I'm not going to let you do that. But it 453 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 15: goes to how this is a potent and village of 454 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 15: a case. They're proving stuff that's not an evidence while 455 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 15: leaving suggestions of stuff that is an evidence with the jury. 456 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 6: So the thing to keep in mind is when. 457 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 15: The prosecution wraps up its case, the defense will stand 458 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 15: up and make a standard motion for a directed verdict 459 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 15: to say that there's insufficient evidence to support a i'm 460 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 15: in this case. That's an extremely powerful argument because you've 461 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 15: seen we're still debating what that crime is. Even on 462 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 15: this network, you have people disagreeing as to what the 463 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 15: theory of this case is, and the prosecution is about 464 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 15: to wrap. Now what the prosecution is worried about is 465 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 15: that even Judge Merchant may just say, you know what, 466 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 15: I gave you a shot and you didn't sink it, 467 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 15: and so I'm going to direct this verdict. 468 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: I'm going to issue an acquittal. 469 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 15: The way they're going to get around that is to 470 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 15: just get Cohen to say this happened, that he intentionally 471 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 15: wanted me to put out and wanted this to be 472 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 15: a legal expense. He intentionally was committing fraud. He was 473 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 15: trying to conceal campaign violations, even though very few people 474 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 15: on Earth would believe Michael Cohen. 475 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 6: The prosecutors will then. 476 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 15: Argue to the judge, that is a credibility question, judge, 477 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 15: and you need to let this go to the jury. 478 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 15: Whether you believe him or not, that is a fat 479 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 15: question for the jury. That is their entire strategy. And 480 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 15: so as unbelievable as Cohen may be, I don't think 481 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 15: the prosecutors think he will be believable. 482 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 6: They just want him to check a bog. 483 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: Now, if you just listen to what Turley said there, 484 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: and you listen to what the other law professor said. 485 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: At the very beginning, they're saying, Okay, you've got to 486 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: hope right that this jury is smart enough to understand 487 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: when they're being misled. You have to hope that this 488 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: jury is going to be honest and isn't a jury 489 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: stacked with Trump haters. Remember, they picked Manhattan on purpose, 490 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: and they picked Manhattan on purpose because they knew that 491 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the people they're voted against Donald Trump. 492 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: So they thought, I think it would be easy, right, 493 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: It would be really easy for them to be able to, 494 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, find a bunch of people. They're like, yeah, 495 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: let's put Donald Trump in jail. And if we can't 496 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: do that, at least let's find him, you know, find 497 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: him guilty of of committing a crime. So then the 498 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: Democrats can run against him and say, see, he's a criminal, 499 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: because the appeal wouldn't happen and the case will be 500 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: overturned on appeal. I have no doubt about it in 501 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: a higher court. Every legal scholar has said that, on 502 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: the left and the right, and they want to be 503 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: able to. 504 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Use this to run against him for the election. 505 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: And plus, now he's in court being mandate to stay 506 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: in New York in this court. 507 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: Now it's been. 508 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Five weeks, So for five weeks, Donald Trump has not 509 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: been on the road campaigning. And that's the most valuable 510 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: thing to the Biden campaign. This is basically a massive 511 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: in kind contribution to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for 512 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: president twenty twenty four. 513 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: Now, there was one. 514 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: Other question that was asked of Jonathan Turley, and I 515 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: want you to listen to this because I think He 516 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: brings up a great point about this judge possibly having 517 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: second thoughts. 518 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 14: You're arguing that the judges having second thoughts about previous 519 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 14: decisions that have been made in this case. And I 520 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 14: would just add to that, Jonathan, it came from the 521 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 14: bench on Friday afternoon when the judge told the state 522 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 14: to tell Michael Cohen. 523 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: To stop talking, And that was after all the tiktoks 524 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: came out, all the tweets, etc. 525 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 6: Etc. 526 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 14: You're making a case now that the judge thinks they 527 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 14: may have gone too far. 528 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 6: No, I'm not saying that judges having second thoughts. He 529 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 6: might be. 530 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 15: I can't imagine that any competent lawyer at this point 531 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 15: would not be embarrassed by what has happened in this courtroom. 532 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 15: This is an utter disgrace that this case has gotten 533 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 15: this far, and I would. 534 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 6: Hope that he would have second thoughts. 535 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 15: But keep in mind when he told when he told 536 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 15: the prosecutors, can you tell Michael Cohen to cut it out? 537 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 6: Stop the antics? Am I going to tell you I 538 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 6: was not. 539 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 15: One of those complimenting the judge. Why wouldn't you do 540 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 15: that at the beginning of the trial. You were doing 541 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 15: that weekend before he testified. This guy has been out 542 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 15: there with a three ring circus going on, and you 543 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 15: haven't said a thing, and then suddenly said, it'd be 544 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 15: nice if we can go through the weekend without him 545 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 15: trolling for dollars on TikTok. 546 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 2: Jonathan Turley is absolutely right. 547 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: Don't be impressed by this judge saying that the week 548 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, days before he's about to testify. Hey be 549 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: impressed right by by by the fact that this judge 550 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: is said to knock it off to Michael Cohen, who's 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: the entire basically case against Donald Trump. 552 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: He should have done it at the very beginning. 553 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: But you've got to understand, this judge is all in 554 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: to go down in history as the guy who got 555 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: a conviction against Donald Trump and then got to sentence him. 556 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: That's his motivation here. 557 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: Now is he embarrassed by maybe just how bad the 558 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: prosecution is done here? 559 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: There is a chance of that. 560 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Is he embarrassed at the fact that how bad this 561 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: case has been this court, his court, he has run 562 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: this case there also, I think you could argue was 563 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: a chance of that and maybe he realizes, now, hey, 564 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I got to live with this, right, I have to 565 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: really live with this the rest of my career, that 566 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I had this you know what showcase, and I was 567 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: interfering with an election, and I was allowing the prosecutor 568 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: to politicize my courtroom to a point where I couldn't 569 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: even defend it anymore. And their case was so weak, 570 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: which again I go back to what I said earlier 571 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: about this. This case was so weak that eight years 572 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: ago the FED said there is no case here. They 573 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: resurrected it only to go after Donald Trump and to 574 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: try to turn him in to some sort of criminal, 575 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: so that Joe Biden could barely walk onto a stage, 576 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: read a teleprompter and go that guy's a good felling 577 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: you don't want to that guy's been convicted, or that 578 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: guy's going to jail right like. They needed to give 579 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: him that talking point. And even if it didn't work, 580 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: the question is did it Because if your ultimate goal 581 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: is to keep Donald Trump out of the White House, 582 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: taking him off the campaign trail for five weeks could 583 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: turn into six weeks or even longer, we don't know yet. 584 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: But if you can take him off off of the 585 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: campaign trail, did you accomplish your ultimate goal, which was 586 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: to weaken and not give him the advantage of being 587 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: able to travel and campaign for president of the United 588 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: States of America. 589 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep covering this trial. 590 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: I can promise you that I'll keep giving you my thoughts, 591 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: and we'll give you the best analysis we can from 592 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: others they're talking about as well. Make sure you share 593 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: the show with your family and your friends, and I'll 594 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: see you back here tomorrow.