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Speaker 1: should be. Who should walk in today? Aaron Torres in

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Speaker 1: the house. Aaron, what's up. I've done a lot of

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Speaker 1: shows over the years. Man, they're spaced out too much though,

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Speaker 1: me and you. Yeah, I mean, you know, I enjoy

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Speaker 1: going down the Aeron Torres path.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, your buddy Rich Hornberger, he's too responsible.

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Speaker 2: He shows up every week. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get a more irresponsible co host. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean he normally does. He'd be down in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Aaron is here today and we got a lot of

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Speaker 1: ground to cover. Look, I want to get this out

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Speaker 1: of the way right now. Okay, let's do it. So

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Speaker 1: we have Chris Purfett. He is the resident Olympic fanatic.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we talked about there's a difference to

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Speaker 1: actual fanatic. He is a fanatic about the Olympics. We

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Speaker 1: had a heated discussion yesterday, much to the chagrin of Patrick,

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Speaker 1: our producer, who basically gave it a cease and desist,

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Speaker 1: stop it, stop it right now. But Chris explain to Aaron,

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Speaker 1: because Aaron, I would imagine you're pretty much like me.

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Speaker 1: You'll sample the little Olympic, you know, once in a while.

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Speaker 1: It's great background noise, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: That was exactly how I described it on my Saturday

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Speaker 2: of maybe a t USA basketball game, expecting to have

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Speaker 2: to talk about it on air. So it's fun you

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Speaker 2: kind of have it onto the background. But it sounds

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Speaker 2: like Chris Purfett does not live.

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Speaker 1: The no no. This man literally if he had a

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Speaker 1: ticket to, as you've told me, Chris, any single Olympic event,

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Speaker 2: We had it on in the studio last night and

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Speaker 2: it came out all the different venues for the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Olympics in twenty twenty eight. You know they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have swimming at so far whatever. You know, I a

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Speaker 2: million years ago, believe it or not, I actually covered cycling,

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Speaker 2: so Velodrome is gonna have sight and I literally I

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Speaker 2: I'm on team Perfet on this one. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like I like it. I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 3: but go ahead. Yeah, I'm quick, quick background. I've been

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Speaker 3: to two in my life and my father. I've been

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Speaker 3: But you're not far off from the mark is when

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Speaker 3: I was in Sydney, it was very much so Adhd.

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Speaker 3: It was we're checking out this event this one day.

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Speaker 3: Go over here for table Tennishich. By the way, if

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I said, hey, who's winning the ping pong match

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Speaker 3: But there's there's so much to do.

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Speaker 2: And but why do you say that ping pong, table tennis,

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Speaker 3: The atmosphere is extremely energetic there, and just the he

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Speaker 3: I love a lot of stuff there. I love swimming,

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Speaker 1: Look here here's my thing and Chris, God bless you.

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Speaker 1: I was there obviously, and I did not attend a

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Speaker 1: middle of the day. But you didn't go to any events.

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Speaker 1: Those sports are defined by what you do in the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: No one says that in soccer, don't even send their

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Speaker 1: My daughter's boyfriend is a soccer player, and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about it last night. I mean it's I said,

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Speaker 1: the World Cup. It's a completely different thing. I mean,

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Speaker 3: But I do think that is the one exception in

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe you can say Olympics, but that's always

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Speaker 1: But the only relevance in Olympic basketball is if the

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Speaker 1: Because again, nobody, when you evaluate somebody's Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: how many gold medals did you win? No one's saying that.

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Speaker 1: to me, he literally defines a four letter word smug.

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Speaker 4: He is.

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Speaker 1: Smug he is. But when you look at anyone that

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Speaker 1: But that's okay. Neither here nor you have voted Penix

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Are you a proponent of

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Speaker 1: moving the heisman until after all the game?

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Speaker 2: Because I think we would, because people can say all

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Speaker 2: the right things, we would default to the best player

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Speaker 2: on the best team, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well, and to be like, what did

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Speaker 1: the last It's always that last moment to remember? And

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Speaker 1: of course that's what I'm saying. You know, when Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young engineered that upset of Alabama over Georgia and the

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Speaker 1: se championship game, that was a very close race. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Aiden Hutchinson was definitely in the mix

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Speaker 1: after his three sacking and against Ohio State, and I

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Speaker 1: was on the bubble to the end and that was it.

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Speaker 1: Look at Bryce Young, he.

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Speaker 2: Didn't play well in the championship game against Georgia. That

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Speaker 2: would have been absolutely held against him. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know who he was queshed up against, you know, But

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Speaker 2: it's like, you know, and I think the other thing too,

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Speaker 2: is especially in this twelve team playoff era, if you

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Speaker 2: do have the year where there is a player that

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Speaker 2: is exceptionally good that isn't in the playoffs. So like

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Speaker 2: you go back to the ear, Lamar Jackson won it.

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Speaker 2: He was so good that year, but he would have

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Speaker 2: been out of site, out of mind for four weeks.

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Speaker 2: And whoever, again, I don't remember who was in second

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Speaker 2: or third place that year, but if they're the best

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Speaker 2: player on the best of Sean Watson was, Oh I've

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Speaker 2: heard of him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, there goes then and they went on

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Speaker 1: to win the national championship. A lot of people said

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Speaker 1: they had regrets that they voted for Lamar Jackson. I did.

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Speaker 1: I voted for Lamar Jackson because of what DeShawn did it.

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Speaker 2: But again, I mean, it's a regular season award that

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Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to get promise stay on

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Speaker 1: track next time. My apologize, but we need to find

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Speaker 1: out what is trending right now. Martin is in the house. Martin,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Steve?

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Speaker 4: I hate to offend your on American sensibilities a little

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Speaker 4: k if I update the Olympic.

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Speaker 1: Scores, yeah, I give more anti Steve Kerr than you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm exactly I am not. I'm never anti America. I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly not against our men playing for the Olympics. Big

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Speaker 1: fans of all of them. But Steve Kerr should never

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Speaker 1: have been Eric Spolzer should have been the coach of

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Speaker 1: the national team, not Steve Kerr.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with you there, I just you know, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's good that we're gonna get Dan Hurley as the

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Speaker 4: head coach.

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Speaker 1: Feng Dan Hurley, either anybody but mister smug Steve, anybody.

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Speaker 4: You know a g to your point, I know you're

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Speaker 4: college basketball locked in Dan Hurley being the coach. I

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Speaker 4: called her when I was on the a couple a

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Speaker 4: couple of days ago. Uh, I said, Mike, Mike Krzyzewski

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Speaker 4: ran a much tighter ship about Team USA basketball, And

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Speaker 4: it made me think maybe because Mike Krzyzewski doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to deal with anybody from Team USA, you know, during

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Speaker 4: the regular season of his name.

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Speaker 1: Point, you know, you know, like Steve Cole look at Brown,

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Speaker 1: who is one of my favorite people on the planet.

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Speaker 1: Going back to my UCLA days, it was a disaster

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Speaker 1: in two thousand one, I mean an absolute disaster and

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Speaker 1: they ended up losing the gold medal, and we don't

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Speaker 1: ever want to go there again. But again, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to pick an NBA coach, in my opinion, the

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Speaker 1: best coach in the NBA is Eric Spulzer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's much disagreement about that. It's

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Speaker 4: definitely not Steve Kerr. But the team, the men's team

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Speaker 4: did win today one ten to eighty four. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 4: coming off the bench with twenty three points, five for

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Speaker 4: five from three. That's his first action of the Olympics

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Speaker 4: as he was not cleared from his capturing until earlier today.

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Speaker 4: Lebron had twenty one points, eight rebounds, nine assists, just

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Speaker 4: sort of a triple double. Nikola Jokic twenty points, five rebounds,

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Speaker 4: eight assists.

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Speaker 1: I saw so where he was.

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Speaker 4: Serbia was minus nine in the like seven minutes. He

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Speaker 4: didn't play in this game, and he ended up being

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Speaker 4: a plus minus of zero. So it's pretty much Jokic

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Speaker 4: and the Pips in terms of Serbia basketball. Coco Golf

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Speaker 4: one of the two FLA bearers of the United States.

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Speaker 4: She made her Olympic debut today, defeating her first round

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Speaker 4: opponent in straight sets.

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Speaker 1: Did not lose a single game.

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Speaker 4: Simone Biles qualified for the all around gymnastics final despite

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Speaker 4: battling left calf discomfort.

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Speaker 1: Biles and soon E Lee, who's.

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Speaker 4: The reigning gold medal winner in the all around, will

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Speaker 4: represent the United States and the event. Team USA Gymnastics

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Speaker 4: also qualified for the team final. Women's mountain biking saw

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Speaker 4: the best result we've seen for the United States. Haley

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Speaker 4: Batton took home the silver medal. Men's water polo lost

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Speaker 4: in group play to Italy twelve to eight, and women's

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Speaker 4: soccer stars group play against Germany in about half an hour.

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Speaker 4: Lawrence Scruggs won the semifinal bout in fencing. She earned

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Speaker 4: the chance to compete for the gold in the individual foil.

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Speaker 4: It's her Olympic debut as well. Scrugs only twenty one

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Speaker 4: years old and one a few, I think so as

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Speaker 4: one male and one female blacks to have the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to qualify for a gold medal, Lawrence Ruggs is one

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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 1: Back to the wh Wow. Interesting by the way, Marshawn,

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Speaker 1: the French swimmer who broke many of the records. He's

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Speaker 1: ready to get into the pool right now. Oh, there

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Speaker 1: you go. See and you said there were no stars. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I only heard about this guy because he's

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Speaker 1: broken a lot of Phelps's records. I guess he broke

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Speaker 1: the last record that Phelps held. The Swimming's weird. They

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Speaker 1: constantly break records like it never ends. It just break record,

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Speaker 1: break record, break record constantly. It's not like track and field,

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Speaker 1: where some records will stand for Like, is anyone ever

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Speaker 1: going to break nine point five to eight in the

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Speaker 1: one hundred meters, which is the world record by Usain Bold?

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Speaker 1: I doubt it, probably not. And Leon Marshaun, Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this guy is expected to win a lot of gold

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Speaker 1: at these games in his home country of France. Martin,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much. We'll check in with you a little

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Speaker 1: bit later. On Steve Hartman, Aaron Toarres here Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to some college football. We went down a

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Speaker 1: little rabbit hole with the Heisman Trophy again. I could

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Speaker 1: do that all day, all night, but I want to

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Speaker 1: get back to just the basics of what we should

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Speaker 1: expect in twenty twenty four and whether or not because

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Speaker 1: this is something near and dear to me and you,

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Speaker 1: and that is college football and its future. Is this direction,

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Speaker 1: which is a stark misdirection from where we've been in

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Speaker 1: the past. Ultimately good for the sport.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, like I think it's go. You know, it

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Speaker 2: certainly modernized the sport. As you said, this is the

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Speaker 2: first year there is a true playoff, and listen, I

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Speaker 2: think the postseason is going to be really, really.

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Speaker 1: Really awesome. I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: But I also don't think there's any way you can

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Speaker 2: heighten the postseason without in some way taking away from

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Speaker 2: the regular season. And so this has been a topic

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Speaker 2: since playoff expansion started. I get it, we're here. I'm

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Speaker 2: not complaining about it, but it is a reality. Is

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Speaker 2: and I've said this on my Saturday show a million times,

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Speaker 2: is every other sport in America except for the NFL,

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Speaker 2: is trying to figure out ways to get you interested

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Speaker 2: in their postseason. We have the NBA mid season tournament.

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Speaker 2: We have baseball changing basically every rule in the history

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Speaker 2: of or whatever we have. I mean, you know, WNBA

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Speaker 2: doing whatever. College and by the way, in college basketball,

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Speaker 2: I love college basketball, but I know that nobody watches

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Speaker 2: college basketball till March. Because I remember I uce to

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Speaker 2: get in this argument every year with Arnie Spaniard. We

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Speaker 2: would fill in during December, right around Christmas. Ah, these

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Speaker 2: ball games are too much blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And and make the playoff bigger. And I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: make the playoff bigger, You're you're gonna devalue the regular

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Speaker 2: season now, I'm And he's like, well, you love college bass,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, yes, in college basketball is now a

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Speaker 2: postseason sport where we only care when the postseason begins.

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Speaker 2: I don't think college football is going to get the

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Speaker 2: But again, by definition, when you expand the playoff, when

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Speaker 2: you make it more about the postseason, there's no way

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Speaker 2: the regular season would be is meaning let me.

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Speaker 1: Interject a second on We have and have had an

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Speaker 1: expansion of the nca basketball teram is called the conference tournaments.

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Speaker 1: How many schools are not eligible for their conference tournament?

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Speaker 1: What are the percentage of schools that are not eligible

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Speaker 1: for the conference tournaments? Every team enters March with a

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Speaker 1: chance to win the national tach every single team, every

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Speaker 1: single team. You could win your conference tournament to qualify

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Speaker 1: for the nca tournament. Look, we had a Yukon team

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Speaker 1: go five games and five nights to win a big

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Speaker 1: East Tournament and then rattle off six straight wins to

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Speaker 1: win the national championship. So this idea of expanding the

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Speaker 1: nca basketball tournament, you don't have to. You already have

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Speaker 1: an expansion. It's called the conference tournaments, where everybody has

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Speaker 1: a chance if they win their conference tournament to earn

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Speaker 1: a chance to be in the Big Dance. So, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's always been a ridiculous argument because you already

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Speaker 1: have a fully expanded college basketball all right. So getting

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Speaker 1: back to the college football scene, one of the things

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Speaker 1: I really want to get into with you, Aaron, is tradition,

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Speaker 1: rivalry sarch oh Okay, So when we think about college football,

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Speaker 1: college football, for most of his existence is very regional,

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Speaker 1: very regional. One of the exceptions of that was the

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Speaker 1: USC Notre Dame Gee which was created by new Rockney,

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Speaker 1: his wife like coming to California, right, and his dear

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Speaker 1: friend Howard Jones, who had been the coach at Iowa

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Speaker 1: before coming to the University of Southern California and making

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Speaker 1: them a powerhouse. And new Rockney was so ahead of

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Speaker 1: his time. I mean he understood for this little school

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Speaker 1: in South Bend, Indiana to get noticed that he needed

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Speaker 1: to take it on the road, and so they would

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Speaker 1: play Army in New York and he would go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: But he created this rivalry coming to southern California with

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Speaker 1: the help of his dear friend Howard Jones, to create

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Speaker 1: what is if you look at the history of this

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Speaker 1: rivalry is on par with obviously, I mean there's great

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Speaker 1: you know Auburn, Alabama, and you know Ohio State, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: all these great rivalries, but Notre Dame US. He is

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Speaker 1: very unique. And now now Lincoln Riley, the coach of USC,

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Speaker 1: is starting to cast some doubt about the future if

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Speaker 1: you were to take away these rivalries. I remember Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Nebraska when I grew up with certainly it was the

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Speaker 1: Big Eight championship for years and years and it was

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Speaker 1: a huge rivalry. Nebraska bolted for the money in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten and that game was gone. So if we

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Speaker 1: do see the elimination of some of these rivalries which

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Speaker 1: are a big part of the tradition of that score, right,

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Speaker 1: could it be? Because people will make the argument and

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Speaker 1: people say, just make new rivalries? Who cares about that?

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Speaker 2: Well I could agree, but no, you're right. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 2: and I'll say this. It takes another sport. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Yukon guy. Biggest rival Yukon has ever had in basketball

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Speaker 2: is Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: They don't play Syracuse anymore. It sucks.

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Speaker 2: And you can't just well, they're in the Big East. Now,

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Speaker 2: Creton's good, Oh, Creighton's arrival. No, it doesn't work like that.

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Speaker 2: And it's and you know, and and that's where I

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Speaker 2: think it is interesting. Like you look at these Big

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Speaker 2: Ten schedules, it's like, yes, it's cool that Penn State

650
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: is playing at USC, that Ohio State is playing at Oregon,

651
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: that Oregon is playing at Michigan. But but it like

652
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: it's cool, it doesn't mean that it's not gonna take

653
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: some getting used to that that's a conference game that

654
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State in Oregon or Oregon in Michigan or Michigan

655
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: in USC could play for the Big Ten championship. And

656
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: I do think again, a lot of what makes us

657
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: law sports it is regional. It is the rivalries and

658
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: those are going away. You mentioned Oklahoma Nebraska. How about

659
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Oklahoma State? As Chris Blank about that, that's out

660
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: the door. In football, you know they're gonna still play

661
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: the Apple Cup in the Civil War in Oregon, in

662
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: Washington or Washington Oregon, respectfully, they're at the beginning of

663
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: the year.

664
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Speaker 1: They're like week three.

665
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: It's not the same as like I think two years

666
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: ago or a few years ago, Oregon State knocking Oregon

667
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: out of the Pac twelve Championship game.

668
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: It's just not the same. And so it's the new world.

669
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Speaker 2: As I said a minute ago before we got to Martin,

670
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: it's the evolution. This is professional sports on a minor

671
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: league level. But I do think the fan is the

672
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: one that suffers more than anybody.

673
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Speaker 1: All Right, coming up on the other side, I want

674
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: to get to a decision that was made and the

675
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: impact it's going to have, not just on college football,

676
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: but just college sports in general and ultimately Olympic sports

677
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: as well. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve hartin tours here.

678
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday. Got some swimming.

679
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: Going on right now, saw some team handball, men's men's

680
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: field hockey, yes, women's soccer Group B.

681
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: So we got the Olympics on in the background, but

682
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: right now we are focused in on Well, I'll tell

683
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: you what. This part of the story could have a

684
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: major impact on Olympic sports as we move forward. So

685
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: there was this ruling, and long story short, basically, they

686
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: were trying to set some guidelines in terms of money

687
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: to be distributed equally from university to university in terms

688
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: of their collegiate athletics, also limits on scholarships. And well,

689
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: hold on, let me preface this by saying it actually

690
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: wasn't limits on scholarships. We'm talking about college football. It

691
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: was limits on roster size. Sure, So to give you

692
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: an example, they had roster limits or scholarship limits of

693
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: eighty five. And maybe you had one hundred five players

694
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: on the teams. He had twenty walk ons. So they

695
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: didn't say, all right, we're raising the scholarships to one

696
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: hundred and five. They didn't say that. What they said

697
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: was your roster sizes one hundred five. Now, if you

698
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: do decide to have one hundred and five scholarship players, great.

699
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: And so, when we talk about revenue generating sports which

700
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: have kept alive, Olympic sports generate zero revenue. It's all

701
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: about money, folks and duch as. It pains me to

702
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: say that that's exactly what it's always been about. But

703
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: think about it. If you have an opportunity with this

704
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: money to buy yourself a five star quarterback to put

705
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: your football team over the top, and the amount of

706
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: revenue that would ultimately generate for the university. You're going

707
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: to do that, and what then happens to the non

708
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: gen revenue sports. I mean, it's it could be a

709
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: catastrophe at the collegiate level for these Olympic sports that

710
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: have survived because of the revenue generating sports all these years.

711
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: This is you know, listen about four or five years ago,

712
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: and I think you and I neither of us is

713
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: anti paying college players. It's just but anyone who just

714
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: screamed just pay them and figure it out, Well, you

715
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: got what you wanted. And anybody who knows college sports

716
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: the way that you do, the way that I do,

717
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: you knew there were going to be unintended consequences. And

718
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: this is one thing that I remember saying in like

719
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, when it became clear that we

720
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: were head of this direction. It's like, Okay, that booster

721
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: that now gave say two million dollars a year, be

722
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: nice to have that money. I don't whatever, but say

723
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: you gave two million dollars a year, that might fund

724
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: the entire softball team all season.

725
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Long. Well, now that's going on.

726
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: Pay the quarterback because I'm at an SEC school and

727
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't want my team to fall behind, so screw softball.

728
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: And so these were the unintended consequences. And I'm so

729
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: fascinated as these Olympics get underway. You know, I can't

730
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: speak for every swimmer, every diver, every field hockey player,

731
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: every whatever, but my guess is that most of them

732
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: came through the collegiate system, most of them. Thankfully we're

733
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: able to get scholarships, and I just don't know that

734
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: those opportunities are going to be there going forward.

735
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Speaker 1: So we everybody wanted to pay the players. Pay the players,

736
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: pay the players.

737
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 2: That's fine, but there are unintended consequences, and that's one

738
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: of them.

739
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Well, and then you also have title nine. Yeah, on

740
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: the books. I'm confused about that, and Title nine is

741
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: very simple. It's been read the same way for fifty years,

742
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: equal on both sides. Well, when you weren't paying anybody, well,

743
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: neither side's getting paid. Yeah, I mean there was under

744
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: the table stup, but I mean board. Now, the way

745
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: I look at it is, if you have twenty million

746
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: dollars and you are spending that if I'm the ladies,

747
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying, fine, ten million for US ten million for

748
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: the men. Look, unless you have a Caitlin Clark who

749
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: obviously becomes the biggest revenue generator for your university, I'm sorry.

750
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: And then what they're gonna do is simply this because

751
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: everything has to be equal. So if we need to

752
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: eliminate programs, they're gonna be on both sides. So if

753
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: we realize we have a lot of women's sports that

754
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: aren't generating any revenue, we have a lot of men's sports,

755
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: they're just gonna hack hack hack hack, and all of

756
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: these sports are gonna come off the books. It just again,

757
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I when this started in California and people are like, wow,

758
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be isolated. Yeah, maybe USC is going

759
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: to have an advantage. They'll be able to pay their

760
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: isolated What are you talking about? This is gonna go explode.

761
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: Pandora's box has been opened and there's no going back. Yeah.

762
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: I think there's two sides to it. Is we're all

763
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: for people getting paid. There were clearly unattended consequences. I

764
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: will say a lot of this is on the end.

765
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: Though they had years where they were in court fighting

766
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: this knowing it was coming, and I just remember it

767
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: was about you know, I think it was July one

768
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, the date was coming, and about

769
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: June twenty eighth, they just threw up their hands and said, okay,

770
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: nil's allowed. And there was no rules and there's no this,

771
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: and there's no that. And what's been crazy is they've

772
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: tried to implement guidelines. You know, it can't be paid

773
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: for play, then it can be paid for play.

774
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: You can't get.

775
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Paid directly from the schools, the schools can't be involved

776
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: in the collectives. Now they are, and so it has

777
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: been fascinating. It has been frustrating, and I know, you

778
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: know college sports, it's like I think the frustration from

779
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: coaches whatever is that every six months something's changing. First

780
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: there was a one time transfer. Now it's an unlimited transfer.

781
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: You just go on and on and on down the list.

782
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Here we are crazy, which is why Nick Saban's on

783
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: the sidelines and j Wright and coach k and Roy Williams.

784
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: I think there's a couple other guys that aren't far

785
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: behind either. It has changed dramatically. I mean, I honestly,

786
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: when you think abou it in college or or you

787
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: have the good fortune of the University of Texas. So

788
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: arch Manning is still on the bench sure, and most likely,

789
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: barring injury, is going to spend another year on the bench.

790
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Two years on the bench when you're the number one

791
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: high school quarterback in the country. How's that possible for Texas? Simple?

792
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: Their money is parking with a ton of money to

793
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: stay sure, and they can afford to do that. I

794
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily bad. I guess people are just

795
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: having to understand. But when you when you have to

796
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: recruit a high school class and then you also have

797
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: to figure out which recruits you're going to keep, and

798
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: then you're going in the transfer portal to get other

799
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean that is well, that's a lot.

800
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Speaker 2: And Mark Stoop said this this week. I disagreed with Lapa.

801
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: What he said is accurate. Every player is a free agent.

802
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Every six months that opens and every player is a

803
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 2: free agent, and every player now has an agent and

804
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: they're coming back to the school asking for more money.

805
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: It's crazy, world, Be nice, be nice, if we had

806
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: that all right coming down in there, so we will

807
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: get back to the college football playoff.

808
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: Because there's certain aspects of the college football playoff that

809
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: I think people really didn't think about the idea of

810
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: a real playoff. Thumbs up, But how we get there

811
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: might be a little more complicated. Plus we got a

812
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: lot more on NFL training camps. Keep it right here.

813
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,480
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Speaker 1: our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider, will be joining us

821
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: all the latest. With the trade deadline counting down here

822
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, we're gonna have any blockbuster deals.

823
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes they come out of left field. You don't see

824
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: him coming.

825
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: It seems like every time I look up, I see

826
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: one of the insiders tweeting about something. So it seems

827
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: like it's an active trade deadline.

828
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Speaker 1: It will be, and we got some NFL to get

829
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: to now with training camps opening up, can you believe it? Folks?

830
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame game is Thursday. It's crazy. Oh,

831
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a second, we just started training camp

832
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: and the Hall of Fame game is this Thursday. I

833
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: will say this.

834
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: It feels like because we were talking about this on

835
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: our show on Saturday with the Olympics about you know,

836
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: is the Olympics as important blah blah blah. But part

837
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: of it is there's just so much sports on now

838
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: where I just remember it used to be, even like

839
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: ten years ago, NBA Finals would end June twenty fourth,

840
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: and then you're just doing nothing for like seven weeks.

841
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: And this year, I know it's a little bit different

842
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: because but Summer League is a thing. It's on every night,

843
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: you're something to watch whatever. We had the COPA Tournament

844
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: this summer, which was actually very entertaining. It's just like,

845
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't feel like there was this this major gap

846
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 2: where there was nothing to talk about.

847
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy how much the sports calendar is change.

848
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: You should have been around the days that I remember

849
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: when NFL training camp started the beginning of July. Wow, okay,

850
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: that's good. Two a days. In fact, you know, I

851
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: was in the nineties at the legendary six ninety we

852
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: were the flagship of the Chargers. Sure, and we would

853
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: do our broadcast from Charger training camp during the week

854
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: out at UC San Diego every day sitting on some men.

855
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: We have a canopy so we don't bake in the sun,

856
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: and they would have two a days. And this is

857
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the whole month of July. Wow, they have a full

858
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: month of full blown before you even got to the preseason.

859
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: I thought you were just I thought radio back like

860
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, is just you just argued about Pete

861
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Rose being the Hall of Fame for the entire month

862
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: of July.

863
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Speaker 1: That was all you did. I did that with my

864
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: old partner, Philly Billy Warrendelle, although we were on the

865
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: same side of that back in the day. Let's get

866
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: let's get back to this college football playoff for a moment. Here.

867
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Here's something I was thinking about, and I talked about

868
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: this over the last couple of years. So let's okay,

869
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: you got a college football playoff, and I understand that

870
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: players are getting paid nil, but this still gets a

871
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: little tricky to navigate. Let's say, for instance, let's use

872
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: LSU from a year ago. Let's say instead of nine

873
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: to three, they were ten and two. Sure, And let's

874
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: say that LSU, with their Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Jaden

875
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: Daniels projected to be a high pick in the draft,

876
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: is the five seed. Sure. So in order to get

877
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: to the championship or win the championship, they would have

878
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: to play four games. So you know, the top four

879
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: teams will goe to buy and that's the way it works.

880
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: And I'm Jadeen Daniels thinking, do I really want to

881
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: play four more games? You're gonna have to up the

882
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: ante because actually I've decided I'm not going to risk

883
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: it because I'm getting ready for the NFL drafts. So

884
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: good luck on your way. I'll be rooting for you.

885
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: But you want I don't think, Well, I know this.

886
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: If I were a top level quarterback, I would have

887
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: it structured in my nil money. That's why to get

888
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: now that we have that twenty million in the bank,

889
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: all right, for every game I play and win, there's

890
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: another million dollars in my bank account because that's how

891
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: much money is being generated for the university. So I'm

892
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: your star quarterback and you're asking me to win four

893
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: games to win a national championship. I'll tell you what

894
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: before we even play that first game, we're gonna have

895
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: a financial understanding that for every game I play, because

896
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm putting myself at risk that I ultimate play in

897
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. But again that's different.

898
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: That might be put into contracts, like the way a coach,

899
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: you know, if you win the SEC regular season, if

900
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: you win the SEC. You know in basketball, if you

901
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: make an Elite eight, if you make a Final four,

902
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: theirs bonuses.

903
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: I could see that.

904
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: The opposite reason is why I don't think guys are

905
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: going to opt out of the playoff is I think

906
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be structured into contracts, like, hey, you

907
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: gotta play through the end of the season. What I

908
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: thought you were gonna go with when you started with

909
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: all the extra game Big Ten media days today or

910
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: this week?

911
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

912
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: A couple of those coaches were pretty vocal about, you know,

913
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: if it gets late into the year, right, so remember

914
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: the four teams that win the conference get get the

915
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: first round by so like hypothetically, let's say Ohio State

916
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: is undefeated going into the Michigan game this year, and

917
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 2: they know that they're in the Big Ten championship game,

918
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: and even if they lose, the Big Ten championship game,

919
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: they're gonna be in the college football playoff, Like are

920
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: you now resting guys for the Michigan game to get

921
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: ready for the Big Ten championship game because you know

922
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: you get the first round by.

923
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: So coaches were all asked about that.

924
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: That was another one where Lincoln Riley kind of put

925
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: his foot in his mouth, but essentially they all kind

926
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: of said, like, it's stuff that we're monitoring, like you know,

927
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: it might come down to a week. And by the way,

928
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: I think this is also why Lincoln Riley doesn't want

929
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: to play Notre Dame last game of the season. But

930
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: it's stuff that they're monitoring of like, hey, if we

931
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: got two or three guys that could probably go. But

932
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: we know we're in the conference championship game, and we

933
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: know we're gonna be in the playoff. Even if we

934
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: lose this game, we might turn our attention to the

935
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: conference samionship game. And I know you led the segment

936
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: by talking about unintended consequences of an expanded playoff. What

937
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: you're talking about when I'm talking about these are certainly

938
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: some of them. Oh yeah, I mean again, think about it.

939
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: If you play in your conference Curnam a championship.

940
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: Game, that's thirteen. And then you lose that game. Now

941
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you don't get a first out

942
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: by and you that's four more. Guess, seventeen game seventeen

943
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: game season. We're already there in the NFL, but the NFL.

944
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: Remember when the NFL eventually goes to eighteen games, there

945
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: will be two by weeks. I promise you it's going

946
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: to be eighteen games over twenty weeks. You're expanding how

947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: many weeks of regular season football for the networks? They'll

948
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: eat it up college football? I mean with you do

949
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: they still go to class? Well, well, it's so funny.

950
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: Is that still in the equation anymore?

951
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: Well that's the crazy part about Like, first of all,

952
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: you mentioned an intended consequences.

953
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: This is all them.

954
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: But yes, it is funny like we talk about, you know,

955
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: even like the transfer policy. Oh if if they're not happy,

956
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: let them go. It's like, okay, cool, you go to

957
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: three four colleges. Guess what a lot of us did.

958
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: I transferred to college credits. Don't transfer you go to

959
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: three or four? And you know, of course if you

960
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: mentioned this and oh you oh, pretend you're pretending like

961
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: you care about the kids.

962
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: You don't care about the kids. But it's like it's

963
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: the truth of like, if you're Steve.

964
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: Hartman, you're a five star quarterback, doesn't work out at UCLA,

965
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: You transfer up to Washington, doesn't work out there, Like

966
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna le, You're gonna run out of eligibility without

967
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: getting your degree. And so I always joke because it

968
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: does feel like we kind of forgot that this is

969
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: ultimately supposed to be some level of an academic enterprise.

970
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: Now to your point, you're playing sixteen seventeen games. Uh,

971
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: you could be on.

972
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: The road for all.

973
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: And by the way, this was this was a big

974
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: reason why they didn't expand previously was because that three

975
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: to four week stretch in December. The reason we didn't

976
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: play any games during that stretch is because there's these

977
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: crazy things, Steve.

978
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: They're called, uh finals, it's finals week.

979
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: And graduation time, and a lot of guys graduated at

980
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: the semester breaks. So hey, you know who needs a

981
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: degree when you could go travel up to play Penn

982
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: State on Saturday?

983
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 7: Right?

984
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When I was sports editor

985
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: of the Daily Bruin, our UCLA basketball team with our

986
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: first year coach Larry Brown, was not expected to get

987
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: out of the first round. We were going to have

988
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: a matchup against number one to Paul Mark McGuire that

989
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: that team, and we pulled the upset. And the next

990
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: week was the regional finals, which were in a Tempee

991
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: or Tucson. They were actually in Tucson, and so I

992
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: couldn't go even all those sports out of the paper

993
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: because it was finals week. Sure, and so I didn't

994
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: expect them to win anyway. Clark Kellag Ohio State was

995
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: playing them in the sweet six. Team thought they would lose,

996
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: and they won. Next thing, you know, I'm on a

997
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: flight to Indianapolis for the Final four and it was

998
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: very exciting. But I just remember there was a lot

999
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: of logistics because of the final schedule. Mike, I can't

1000
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: I got to actually take finals. I can't pee. I'd

1001
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: love to be there, but I can't do that. Here.

1002
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: Here's another thing when we talk about just how this

1003
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: works in terms of this college football playoff, So the

1004
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: idea that more schools get an opportunity to get into

1005
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: the mix, sure, this is one of the big arguments.

1006
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: In other words, by expanding the tournament. Now more schools

1007
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: than ever will have that opportunity to get to the top.

1008
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: And I remember when they went from the BCS Championship

1009
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: game to the made for TV Four School Playoff and

1010
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I said, I said, it went before before it even started.

1011
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: I said, I know where this is going. So first

1012
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: of all, we're not necessarily going to get the four

1013
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: best schools. They're going to be hand picked who is

1014
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: going to get the most eyeballs. It was a made

1015
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: for TV event, which is fine. Potentially got some great matchups,

1016
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: other times not so much. But the teams that are

1017
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: there the very first year Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, and

1018
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: what happened if you look at the history of the

1019
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: four School Playoff, what three teams were most dominant during

1020
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: that time? Alabama, Clemson. I mean Clemson literally was put

1021
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: on the map. It's not that Clemson football didn't exist

1022
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: before I did, but their inclusion in these early playoffs

1023
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: set in motion Clemson to somehow become a superpower in

1024
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: college football. And now with the expanded playoffs, I think

1025
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: it's going to narrow the field even more in terms

1026
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: of what schools ultimately can win a national championship.

1027
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: So I agree one thousand percent. And that was the

1028
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: funny part. First of all, most years of the four

1029
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 2: team college football Playoff, we couldn't even find four teams

1030
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: that were good enough to win a championship. I mean,

1031
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 2: there would be like you said that one dud. Every

1032
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: year Alabama plays Michigan State, it's a route. Alabama plays Cincinnati,

1033
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: it's a route, Ohio State play whatever.

1034
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

1035
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Notre Dame was on the wrong side of a

1036
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: couple of those routes. So yes, you know, and so

1037
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: like so that that's a fact. But then you look

1038
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: ahead and one, first of all, that was just fundamentally false.

1039
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: Like I'll give you an example. Last year, the team

1040
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: that finished in eleventh place in the final standings was

1041
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: Ole Miss Okay, great season, ten and two whatever, oh

1042
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff.

1043
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: They're in. They got a shot. You know.

1044
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: The two losses were two got destroyed by Georgia and

1045
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: got destroyed by Alabama. Well, those are the two best

1046
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: teams of the SEC. We don't need an expanded playoff.

1047
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: But what I think you're not what I think what

1048
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 2: you're saying, and what I think that the audience misses

1049
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: is that more games doesn't mean more teams really have

1050
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: a chance, because ultimately, in reality, it's actually the opposite.

1051
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: Exactly what you just said is, now you have to

1052
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: get through four postseason games, five if you include a

1053
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: conference championship game, if you don't win it, and the body,

1054
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: the wear and tear on your body. There's just not

1055
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: enough teams that are built to win all those games.

1056
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: You know, you look at TCU a few years ago.

1057
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,919
Speaker 2: They beat Michigan. It's a thriller. Oh my god, they're

1058
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: playing for a championship and they get smoked by Georgia.

1059
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: But let's say they beat Georgia.

1060
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: Now they gotta go play Ohio State, or they gotta

1061
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: go play Alabama, they gotta go play LSU. So it

1062
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: it's expanded. I'm not complaining. I'm over it. But all

1063
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: of the reasons that they said they were expanding, you

1064
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: could kind of punch a hole in every single argument.

1065
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: I also think about when I was in Glendale, Arizona,

1066
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: January two thousand and seven for the Fiesta Bowl between

1067
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: Boise State and Oklahoma, and I was there because Vinnie Peretta,

1068
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: one of the players for Boise State who would actually

1069
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: play a big rollie through the pass on like an

1070
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: half back option to win that game, and of course

1071
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: one of the most remarkable games in college football history.

1072
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: Would that game still have the same impact if Boise

1073
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: State was in a playoff where the next week they

1074
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: had played Florida exactly and gotten forty one and nothing well,

1075
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: and that has actually been my argument against expanding the playoff.

1076
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Speaker 2: Right, So this bowl system that we had, including even

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00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: including the fourteen playoff. But you take a team, so

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00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of who won all the big

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00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: bowl games last year outside of you know, Ole Miss

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00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: is a great example, right, Uh, they win ten games

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00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: in the regular season. You know, they lose to Alabama,

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00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: they lose to whatever, but then they go to the

1083
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 2: Peach Bowl and annihilate freaking Penn State.

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Speaker 1: Or look a few years ago, Ohio State.

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00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: They lose to Michigan, they're frustrated, whatever, They go to

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00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, they play Utah in that thriller that's

1087
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: back and forth video game, and they have some positive

1088
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: momentum going into next year.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State is probably not a good example.

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Speaker 2: But Ole Miss last year, or Baylor the year remember

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00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: Baylor went, they win the Big Twelve, they go to

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00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl, they beat Ole Miss that year. They

1093
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: feel good about themselves, they feel great, they go into

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Speaker 2: the offseason. There's momentum, there's this, there's that. Now, compare

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00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: it to the twelve team playoff era, where oh, you

1096
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: win your conference, You're You're in the Big twelve, You're

1097
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: in the twelve.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's so happy.

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00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: Squashed like a bug on a windshield by Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Well, and use the nca basketball tournament for an example,

1101
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: and coaches that complain this forever. You have a thirty

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Speaker 1: win season, you get upset in the second round of

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00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Nobody remembers thirty game season that you won

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00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: the conference conference. Nobody remembers any of that. What did

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00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: you do in the NCAA tournament, Honey's the only thing

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: that they remember. And I was, you know for years,

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00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I did you know I would go to the final four.

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00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: The NABC obviously would have their conventions. You see all

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00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: these coaches. That's way back in the day when we

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Speaker 1: actually had access to all these coaches, and they every

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Speaker 1: one of them would come by. Of course, obviously they've

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Speaker 1: all been eliminated, they're not in the final four, and

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00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: they would just complain about how unfair. It was. We

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Speaker 1: had a tremendous season. We had one bad night in

1115
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, and that's all the people remember. Oh yeah,

1116
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: I remember that year you lost in the second round. Yeah,

1117
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: we won thirty games, he won the conference chant and

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00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: we put up ninety lesson that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Rick Barnes is still known because he didn't

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Speaker 2: make the Sweet sixteen with Kevin Durant. That was like

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00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: right fifteen years ago.

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00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what's gonna happen now in college football.

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Speaker 1: Great call, So that's what's gonna happen there all right,

1124
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Speaker 1: coming up in there said let's switch gears to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw something. I've been throwing this out as

1126
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Speaker 1: one of the all time dark horses, because could anyone

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Speaker 1: have predicted at this time of year ago the Houston

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Speaker 1: Texans would make the playoffs? Come on, now, Houston Decks

1129
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 1: are gonna make that. Even the Rams think the Rams

1130
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Speaker 1: are gonna make the playoffs. But things can happen. Pukin Nakua,

1131
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: Kiram Williams, no one believes these things that happen. I

1132
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Speaker 1: have a team that I am touting that will make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Oh, Wow, make the playoffs that nobody's say.

1134
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Speaker 1: We'll find out who that is. And then obviously Aaron

1135
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: will have some choices of his own of surprise teams

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Speaker 1: to watch in twenty twenty four. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Steve Harman, Aaron Torres. Here, Fox Sports Sunday. We are

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Speaker 1: live from the tire iraq dot com studios. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little NFL football right now. And this

1140
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: is a thing a lot of people do. And again,

1141
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: can you believe Hall of Fame game coming up here

1142
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: on Thursday? So the season very much upon is So

1143
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: it happens every year. Every single year there is a

1144
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: team or two or three that is on nobody's radar

1145
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: in terms of making the playoffs, and they make the playoffs.

1146
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean last year, I predict that we have a

1147
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: master list here of all of our preseason NFL predictions,

1148
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: and one of the NFL predictions is who will have

1149
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL. Okay, My prediction was

1150
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: based on a conversation that I actually had with a

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: member of that team and that was the Rams. Oh,

1152
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: and I was at sure Rams were coming off a

1153
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: bad season. They were in cap hell because they had

1154
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: spent everything to win a Super Bowl, which they got.

1155
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford appeared to be in decline and they had

1156
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: no depth. I mean that was the knock on the Rams.

1157
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: They literally, because of the roster and the cap restrictions,

1158
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: had lost all depth, any injuries at all, forget it.

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: They're wiped out. So I predicted Rams would have the

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00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: worst season of any team they made the playoffs, not

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00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: only the playoffs. What happened Pooka Nakua? Anybody have him

1162
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: to be Rookie of the Year or certainly setting wreckers

1163
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: from wide receiver Kyron Williams. Could anyone have predicted he

1164
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: would actually end up leading the NFL in yards rushing

1165
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: per game. Nope, that Matthew Stafford would make his first

1166
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Speaker 1: legitimate Pro Bowl. The only other Pro Bowl he made

1167
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: was as an alternate. Oh I don't know. So this

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00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: is his first time that Matthew Stafford in his entire

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Speaker 1: career actually got named to the Pro Bowl. No one

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Speaker 1: could have predicted that. So based on that, I'm looking

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00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: at the roster of teams and there was one team

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Speaker 1: who won eight games last year and they're over under

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00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: this year is five and a half. So that is

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Speaker 1: a team obviously trending in the wrong direction, and this

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: team I believe is going to make the playoffs. Can

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Speaker 1: I guess or said, go, let's see your guess Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, and I'll tell you why. There's so many

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Speaker 1: reasons why. Okay, let's talk about a year ago, Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton takes over. We know he's not comfortable with Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: We also know three games into the season they not

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Speaker 1: only have the worst defense in the NFL, they're historic

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Speaker 1: after giving up seventy to Miami, and yet by the

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00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: season's end, that team's defense was in the upper echelon

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Speaker 1: of defenses in the NFL. They flipped that entire defense,

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Speaker 1: and even though Russell Wilson put up respectable numbers, it

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Speaker 1: was clear I'm the get go And ultimately the way

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Speaker 1: it played out that John Payton had no confidence, no

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Speaker 1: interest in keeping him as his quarterback. So now they

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Speaker 1: draft Bo Nicks. Bownicks started a record sixty one games

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Speaker 1: in what I still term his Division one football That

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Speaker 1: is the all time record, sure five years as a starter,

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Speaker 1: three in the SEC two years at Oregon, so his

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Speaker 1: experience is very unique for any player coming in. But

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Speaker 1: obviously he has a skill set that John Payton can

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Speaker 1: work with. And the thing about Sean Payton is not

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Speaker 1: only did he rid of himself of Russell Wilson, by

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Speaker 1: by Jerry Judy. In other words, I'm putting he has

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Speaker 1: more power than any other coach in this league. The

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Speaker 1: Walton family gave him whatever he wanted to take that job.

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Speaker 1: He has complete control to form that team in his manner.

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Speaker 1: So they won eight games last year? Is it saying

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Speaker 1: too much in a division that has a Raiders team

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Speaker 1: that is nondescript right now we still don't even know

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Speaker 1: who their starting quarterback is. And I'm a Jim Harbaugh fan,

1205
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: but it's a mess with the Charger. It's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. People say, well, you know, he's

1207
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Speaker 1: always had immediate turnarounds everywhere he's gone. Really, he lost

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Speaker 1: six straight years to Ohio State before he won it.

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Speaker 1: That was not an immediate turn win total. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they were still on the same level where Brady

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Speaker 1: Hoak was his first year at Michigan and they and

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Speaker 1: they leveled off for those six years. You can't say

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Speaker 1: that's sixth year. They were two and four ress I

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Speaker 1: mean they ow w in six against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to say any year two they were

1216
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: a bad spot away from beating him. But oh and

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Speaker 2: it took a while.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's got much more challenging, uh for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So there are a couple of years away. He'll get

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Speaker 1: the job done a couple of years away. So then

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Speaker 1: I'm like, in looking, they're not going to beat the Chiefs,

1222
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Speaker 1: but could they win nine or ten games and sneak

1223
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Speaker 1: in as a wild car. Absolutely, So that is my team,

1224
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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. I ain't gonna call them the surprise

1225
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: team again. The over runners five and a half over

1226
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Speaker 1: over over. I have faith that Sean Payton will figure

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Speaker 1: this out. And by the way, the last team that

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Speaker 1: got rid of Russell Wilson was predicted to be awful.

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Speaker 1: That was the Hobby and then Gino Smith comes off

1230
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Speaker 1: the scrap heap and they made the playoffs. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand the bow Knicks backlash the day after

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01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: the draft. I think people were just looking for something

1233
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Speaker 2: to complain about, and so bow Nicks just took the arrows.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't understand it. So what is there not

1235
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: to like about what bow Knicks did at Oregon, completing

1236
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Speaker 1: almost what passes. He had like fourteen rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He's I think he's gonna be excellent, and I think

1238
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: he fits what Sean Payton wants.

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: So did you do you want my team?

1240
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: So I'll be so I have two, but I'll be

1241
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: quick on the first one because it's pseudo obvious.

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Speaker 1: I hold it right now, I got it. I mean

1243
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: I can't wade. I gotta tease this, Aaron. This is

1244
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: what I got to do and got two teams. Pull

1245
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: out your app all right, let's find out what is

1246
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: a trending right now? Is Martin is here to give

1247
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: us every single happening at these Olympic Games.

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Speaker 4: And also first I'm going to give you a little

1249
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: bit of my opinion here too, Aaron. The reason why

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01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 4: I think people were really crushing on bow Knicks. Bow

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01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: Knicks caught a lot of strays, but it was more

1252
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: seeing six quarterbacks taken in the top twelve picks, like, but.

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Speaker 2: Everybody was projecting that going into the draft, maybe not

1254
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: top twelve, but like first round, everybody was saying those

1255
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: guys were gonna go first round. I think people thought

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: bo Nicks was back half a first round.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's what it is. It's like, you mean,

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Speaker 1: with the twelve overall, Denver was going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm just saying, I'm just trying to explain.

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Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I'm trying to do, and I'm

1261
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Speaker 1: not trying to attest all. Right, let's ask the Michigan

1262
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: guy who is going to have a better NFL career,

1263
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy or bow Knicks bow knicks Wow from the

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Speaker 1: Michigan I will say the.

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Speaker 2: One thing about JJ, I think there's too much slander

1266
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: because the one thing that nobody accounts for is that

1267
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: in half of his season, his head coach was not

1268
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: available to him, who was also a former NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And it's like the two biggest games of the year,

1270
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Speaker 2: the play the primary play caller became head coach an

1271
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: hour before the game against the best defense in the country,

1272
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Speaker 2: and they found a way to win. So I don't

1273
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: think both JJ McCarthy's gonna be great. I don't think

1274
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: he gets enough credit for what he actually did last season.

1275
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not knocking the kid.

1276
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: I just watched every game last year and found myself

1277
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 4: getting increasingly more and more upset.

1278
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: When they dropped back to pass.

1279
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: He had a lot of fluky stuff like that crossbody

1280
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Speaker 2: throw against Ohio State.

1281
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Speaker 1: But still when they needed him to make plays because

1282
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: they were blowing people out, you know, all over the place.

1283
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: But when they needed him to make a play, he

1284
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: made a play.

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Speaker 4: Very much like if Kevin Durrant shoe was smaller, who

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Speaker 4: knows where the Brooklyn nets would have been, If Caleb

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Speaker 4: Downs Shoe was smaller, who knows how to rosebow would

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Speaker 4: have went. Because that first pass he threw to Caleb Downs, look,

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Speaker 4: Caleb Downs with the intended target, JJ McCarthy tried his

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Speaker 4: best to throw it a deception and on the very

1291
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: first snap that he threw the ball on and after that,

1292
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Speaker 4: I was this.

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Speaker 1: Guy came win a championship. First name, the most baby.

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Speaker 1: Then he was unbelievable. After that, man, Sam Darnol's about

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Speaker 1: to be the starter of Minnesota. So there you go.

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Speaker 4: Women's soccer right now, tied with Germany in Germany tied

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Speaker 4: in a twenty second minute the fencing foil of the

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01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 4: fencing final in Foil, say that five times fast. The

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Speaker 4: fencing final in foil between USA is Moren scrugg and

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Speaker 4: Lee Keefer assured the United States a silver and gold medal.

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 4: Only question is who's taking which one home. Keiefer is

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 4: the defending gold medalist. Scruggs in her Olympic debut, American

1303
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: women finished first and second and a hundred meter butterfly,

1304
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 4: with Tory Husky taking the gold.

1305
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: Gretchen Walsh took the silver. You can't tell if that's

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01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: any relation to VJ. Husky. I was wondering. I was

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: actually asking that seems like the spelling is the same.

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Speaker 1: Though what I think swimming, I think VJ. Coco.

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Speaker 4: I'll let you have that one, said Cocoa. Go Off

1310
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Speaker 4: is one of the two flag bears for the United State.

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Speaker 4: She made her Olympic debut today. Her first round opponent,

1312
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 4: she beat him in straight sets without losing a single game.

1313
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 4: Men's Olympic basketball started off pool player with the one

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Speaker 4: ten to eighty four went over. Serbia kd off the

1315
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Speaker 4: bench with twenty three five for five from the floor

1316
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Speaker 4: a five to five for three rather than Lebron twenty

1317
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Speaker 4: one points, eight rebounds, nine assists. Jokis twenty five and

1318
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Speaker 4: eight in the loss. Someone Biles qualified for the All

1319
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Speaker 4: Around Gymnastics final despite fighting off some left calf discomfort

1320
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Speaker 4: her and soon e Lee will represent the US and

1321
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Speaker 4: the event. Soon he lead the reigning gold medalist Team USA.

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Speaker 4: Women's gymnastics also qualified for the team final. Women's dodges.

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Speaker 4: Never mind, just updated that score. It's one to one

1324
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Speaker 4: right now. Men's water polo lost to Italy twelve to

1325
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 4: eight in group play, and women's mountain biking Haley Batton

1326
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: took home the silver medal. That's the best sash that

1327
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 4: women's mountain biking has seen in the Olympics thus far

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Speaker 4: for the United States. Hey go back to you guys.

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Speaker 1: So we're making predictions on teams that are not on

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01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: the radar of most people to end up in the

1348
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: postseason twenty twenty four NFL season. I have made it

1349
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: clear over the last several weeks at the Denver Broncos

1350
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: are my pick. Now we're gonna find out who Aaron

1351
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: Torres says is a team that nobody's talking about, but

1352
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: they should be in terms of being a playoff contender.

1353
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: I have two One isn't really fit that mold of

1354
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: what you just said, but I think the narrative around

1355
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: them is wrong, controversial.

1356
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: The New York Jets, Oh, I'm with you.

1357
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: People are like, I mean, look at the offense. Aaron

1358
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers he was in Egypt. It's like, first of all,

1359
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: does everybody come down? They won ten games last year.

1360
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 2: I would add, if you look at the schedule, Okay,

1361
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: so obviously there were two teams from their division that

1362
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: made the playoffs last year. One I love too. I'm

1363
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 2: happy he got paid, but I think it's worth noting one.

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01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: They kind of melted down down the stretch last year.

1365
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: Two kind of melted down. How about losing at home

1366
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 2: in the last game. They really melted down.

1367
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: So it's like you have that.

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: I think Miami is probably like like what I would

1369
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: say about two of it. Nobody wishes injuries upon anybody,

1370
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: but last year being healthy was actually the outlier season.

1371
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: Like history tells us that he's not making it through

1372
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: a seventeen game regular season. I think the Dolphins take

1373
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of a step back. Then you look

1374
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: at the schedule. Everyone's so focused on Week one at

1375
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Week two, Titans, Okay, well, levis is he

1376
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback? Week three? Patriots rookie quarterback? Week four,

1377
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 2: Your Denver Broncos rookie quarterback. Week five, Minnesota Vikings potential

1378
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: rookie quarterback with JJ McCarthy I know Sam Donald, to

1379
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: Martin's point, is starting so a very nice start for them.

1380
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: I think they can start probably four and one and

1381
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 2: then it's go time. And I just think there's gonna

1382
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: be a little bit of a regression from the Dolphins's team.

1383
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: The defense carried him last year to seven wins, and

1384
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't think they can win a super

1385
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: Bowl because there's too many other good quarterbacks in the

1386
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: AFC to get to a super Bowl. But I think

1387
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna be the playoffs this year. The Jets, that's

1388
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: not a hot one though. I got a real point,

1389
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: But first of all, I am not a Jets believer.

1390
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh you hate it at all. And again, if you.

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01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: Were to take a look at a team's quarterback statistics

1392
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: year to year, sure from twenty twenty two to twenty

1393
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: twenty three, the team that may have had the biggest

1394
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: upgrade at quarterback a year ago was the Green Bay Packers.

1395
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: If you look at the numbers, he was hurt the

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: year before, which that was he hurt. Everyone said he

1397
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: was hurt the year before, really, because what I saw

1398
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: was a guy that lost zip on the fastball, that

1399
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: he was making throws that I had never seen Aaron

1400
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers make in the past where he was late on throws.

1401
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: There's only so many he throws in an arm. It

1402
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: varies from guy to guy. Tom Brady is an outlier.

1403
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: I know that Drew Brees at the end they had

1404
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: a constant restructure of the offense because he literally could

1405
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: not throw the ball down the field. I don't think

1406
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It was interesting. I just saw an interview

1407
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers two days ago on the NFL Network

1408
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 1: and it was talking about throwing the ball to Wilson

1409
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,559
Speaker 1: and that he was under throwing him like he had

1410
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: to get used to his speed. It almost sounded like

1411
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: he was saying, there's gonna be ups and downs. His words,

1412
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna be ups and downs with our team. You know,

1413
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 1: I believe there'll be more ups than downs. But I

1414
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: don't think that the Jets. Everyone talks about their defense.

1415
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: Final and again, Robert Sala, does he impress you as

1416
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: a good head coach? I know he's really respected as

1417
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator. I don't see it. I think the

1418
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: Bills obviously are the favorites, and I think Miami's still

1419
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 1: better than the Jets.

1420
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will just disagree on that one because I

1421
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 2: listen when I say improved, I think they're playoff team.

1422
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 2: I think they're a wildcard team, maybe get to seven

1423
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: eight wins. But I think part of it is the schedule.

1424
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: They think that Aaron Rodgers is gonna stay up right

1425
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: for seventeen games this year after blown achilles a year ago.

1426
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and you just said two years ago

1427
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: your spin on him, his subpart play was his injuries.

1428
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: And now he's forty years old. He's thirty nine.

1429
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: He won't be four. He's not forty just yet. But

1430
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: the other one, how about this one? Real quick?

1431
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: Yes, and this is partly again schedule, by the way.

1432
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: The Jets, by the way, play two teams outside of

1433
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 2: their division that made the playoffs last year, one this week,

1434
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: one at San Francisco, the other one. I think they

1435
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: sneak in as a wildcard because I hate one team

1436
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: in the division.

1437
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: And another way. Excuse me, Aaron Rodgers turned forty last December.

1438
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I'll actually be forty one.

1439
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what I thought. You said, forty one. I couldn't,

1440
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting old.

1441
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't.

1442
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm almost forty one. I couldn't hear that the

1443
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: other one? Tell me if I'm crazy. Okay, the man

1444
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: that Steve Hartman refused to vote for for Heisman Trophy

1445
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 2: last year, Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders bottom line, Yeah,

1446
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 2: here's why. Okay, it's because you're gonna beat Giants twice.

1447
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 2: You have a last play schedule.

1448
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: That all.

1449
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: That's the part that nobody ever talks about.

1450
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: You don't have to be like significantly better if you're

1451
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: playing all of the worst teams. And so look, you

1452
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,839
Speaker 2: play the Titans, you play the Saints, you play the Falcons,

1453
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: who I don't believe in. You play the Panthers, you

1454
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: play the Cardinals like like their wins on the schedule,

1455
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: two wins against the Giants, And I think this, this

1456
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: Dallas thing is a ticking time bomb.

1457
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 1: I know they've won twelve twelve.

1458
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 2: Games three years in a row. They're incredible paid tack

1459
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: pay everybody. I think they knows dive. I think Washington

1460
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: goes like ten and seven to mixed playoffs. I think

1461
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: they make the plaff.

1462
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: You're a believer in dan Quinn.

1463
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: I am a believer in dan Quinn being a CEO

1464
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: and letting Cliff Kingsbury run the offense because remember when

1465
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan was running his offense.

1466
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: Uh, there was a Super Bowl? All right. I will

1467
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: give you a team. I'm not one hundred percent with

1468
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: this team, but I'll give you a team that I

1469
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: think actually has a better chance of making the playoffs

1470
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: than the Washington Commanders in the division. The New York Giants. No, okay,

1471
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: good because I don't have a Carolina Panthers. Ew why

1472
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: because the division is because of their division. I'm with

1473
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: you on Atlanta. I don't see it. The Saints. What

1474
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: are the Saints? I don't even know what they are? Yeah, Tampa,

1475
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: where are they? I mean, I mean Baker Mayfield has

1476
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: this habit of having these big seasons when he needs

1477
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: it to keep his career alive, and then all of

1478
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: a sudden he takes a step back. Plus he lost

1479
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator to by the way, the Carolina Panthers

1480
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: their new coach. I think that I'm still a believer

1481
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: in Bryce Yew Okay, I'm still obviously you're not. No, no, no,

1482
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: it's not that. And when when people bring up sides,

1483
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: I harke him back in two thousand and one. I'm

1484
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: down in San Diego and they had drafted Drew Brees

1485
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: heard of him in the second round, but they needed

1486
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback and they signed Doug Flutie, who started

1487
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: every game by the way the year for the Chargers.

1488
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: So I had many conversations with Doug Flutie and this

1489
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: is you know, he'd already he's seventeen years removed from

1490
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 1: winning the icemand trophy. You know, it failed start in

1491
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: the NFL, It goes up to Canada, comes back with it,

1492
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: it makes a Pro Bowl. I mean, it was unbelievable, right,

1493
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: And I'm standing there because I'm five eleven, you know,

1494
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm like, how tall is this guy? Really?

1495
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Speaker 1: You know, he's a shade under five to nine. And

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Speaker 1: what I remember in the conversations with him was, how

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,799
Speaker 1: do you see? I mean literally, you've got offensive lineman

1498
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,799
Speaker 1: six foot five across the board. How can you actually

1499
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: see down the field? And he says, we have to

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: understand this. I've always been this hype. Yeah, so my

1501
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: perspective on the field has never changed from high school

1502
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: to college of the NFL. Everyone in front of me

1503
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: is taller. Same thing with Bryce Young when we talk

1504
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: about his stature, his size and everything else. He's always

1505
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: been this size and he's had success everywhere. I thought

1506
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: it was a horrific situation. Frank Reich was not the

1507
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: right coach for him last year. I think that they

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: have a chance in that division. I mean, you can

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: win that division at eight to nine. Ah, that division works.

1510
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a possibility. I got a thought on

1511
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: that we can all right, Well, on the other side,

1512
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: will continue on as we're talking a little NFL. We'll

1513
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: get excited about the season. Keep it here. This is

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01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harmin and Aaron Torres here Fox

1515
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. We're live from the tirerac dot Com studios.

1516
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: So we're just throwing you know what at the fan

1517
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: these No, we're not well. I mean we're trying to

1518
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: reason because we do know that a team is good team.

1519
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: One or two teams is literally not on the radar

1520
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: right now to be in the playoffs, and they're gonna

1521
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: make it. You're right. I don't remember any of us

1522
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: sitting down saying, oh yeah, c J. Stroud, first year

1523
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: head coach. No names in terms of you know, skilled guys,

1524
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody, nobody, nobody, picked the Houston Texas make well,

1525
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: so every year there is that team. So I threw

1526
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: out the Denver Broncos. You countered with the Washington Commander.

1527
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: I immediately said, well, I'll tell you if you're gonna

1528
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: go there, I actually think the Carolina Panthers because of

1529
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: the division they play in, because I still believe Van

1530
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,879
Speaker 1: Bryce Young could actually have a better chance than the Commanders.

1531
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: Then you were ready to jump on that, and well

1532
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: we had to take a brief break.

1533
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 2: So you said, you're not a believer in the Jets.

1534
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 2: And this doesn't really have to do with it, but

1535
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: Jets have basically been irrelevant, you know, more or less.

1536
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: You know my whole life, right, Yeah, what is the

1537
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: one constant of late It's Woody Johnson. And so I

1538
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: bring it up because Dave Tepper third third head coach

1539
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: in three years. And you can argue you you said

1540
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: Frank Greg wasn't the right guy for the job. Whatever,

1541
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: but first year head coach Dave Tepper is a mess.

1542
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean every day he's like the the Jackson Mahomes

1543
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,639
Speaker 2: of owners. He's just in the headlines every single week

1544
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 2: for doing somewhere on Tepper one n And so I

1545
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: just think there's a lot of chaos and like, okay,

1546
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: if the art okay, so let me let me put

1547
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: it this way. If the argument is the division stinks, okay,

1548
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: but like the Washington Commanders, in my opinion, like they

1549
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: did get better, improvement at quarterback, improvement at head coach,

1550
01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 2: improvement at offensive coordinator. Where did Carolina get better? And

1551
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm not being a jerk, maybe I'm missing something, but

1552
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: where do you believe they got better? Or is it

1553
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: just a division?

1554
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: So again, when we talk about the most inep offense

1555
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: we had seen in the National Football League and I

1556
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know forever, like I say, it really has to

1557
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: do more with the division. I think the problem with

1558
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: the Commanders right now, even though I'm with you on

1559
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,799
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. First of all, they haven't had a repeat

1560
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 1: division winner in twenty years since Andy Reid and the

1561
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: Eagles rattled out four in a row from zero one

1562
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: to four. You also have to figure out the Giants.

1563
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: They're so bad. They are bad, but they weren't that bad.

1564
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a head coach of the Giants

1565
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 1: that was one of the most highly touted head coaching

1566
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: hires in the league a year ago and then the

1567
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: Giants get into the playoffs and they win a playoff

1568
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: game on the road, no less, and then a year

1569
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: later the whole franchise is right into the You know what,

1570
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know I have I feel like I have

1571
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: a better feeling about the Commanders, and this has nothing

1572
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: with Jade and Daniels. I think Jadan Daniels has a

1573
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: bright future in the NFL. I don't know what to

1574
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: make of the Giants. Yeah, are they as bad as

1575
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: they were a year ago? And then sa Quan's gone,

1576
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know everyone's like, you know, Daniel Jones, man,

1577
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: he sucks. I don't know. Well, one, Daniel Jones does suck.

1578
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: But two, let me ask you a quick question is

1579
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 2: do you think the Hard Knocks is Like I think

1580
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: that one, it's obviously a distraction, but two they were

1581
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: bad and I don't think it's helping the perception right now.

1582
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: I still don't understand why Hard Knocks is still on

1583
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: the air well the off season. Hard Knocks is great, though, Yeah,

1584
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: but every week it's giving us some story. It's not

1585
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: raising the profile the NFL, is it. It's hurting the

1586
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: profile the Giants is what I think.

1587
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: Everybody say, Like dope. No team wants to be part

1588
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: of it. Whether it's the end season, nobody wants a

1589
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: part of and what is it doing to help the profile?

1590
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: I understand when they launched it, it was sort of

1591
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: pull back the curtain, even though it was very contrived

1592
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: in the way it was produced almost from the get go.

1593
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't understand why it's still around the off season.

1594
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks is great because it's over like a six

1595
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: month period. Now, the Trading Camp one kind of stinks

1596
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: because it's like almost in real time this one, though, No,

1597
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 2: but I do think there's something too. It's just like

1598
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: I actually feel bad for the Giants, the GM and

1599
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: Brian Dable because every week it's just like negative headline

1600
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 2: after negative headline after negative headline. This is supposed to

1601
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: be the time of year where everybody's excited about your

1602
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: team and you gotta go to the podium and answer

1603
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 2: questions about Hard Knocks from four months ago when say

1604
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: Kwon Barkley left.

1605
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: All right, so you're what the commanders said, Yeah, that's

1606
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: my team. It's a squad. They're gonna make the play.

1607
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: They have to win ten games right.

1608
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 2: Two against the Giants, split with the Cowboys, and then

1609
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 2: it's a mediocre schedule from there. The last play schedule

1610
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: is part of it. They play your Carolina Panthers, Gonna

1611
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: beat them.

1612
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: Bryce, Bryce Young will be the most improved player in

1613
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: the league this year. Okay, now, let's write it down.

1614
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: I just said that I'd be as it came out

1615
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: of my mouth. They didn't say, yeah, you were, you

1616
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 1: were chuckling. I was just trying to defend my Panthers.

1617
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm not picking the Panthers. I'm packing the Denver Broncos

1618
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 1: with offensive Rookie of the Year bow Nicks coming up.

1619
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: On the other side, the Chiefs are still on top.

1620
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: Can they win a third straight Super Bowl? Make history?

1621
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Sunday. Oh hav a lot of

1622
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,960
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1630
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 1: latest on the hot trade rumors around Major League Baseball.

1631
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: This week is the week of the trade deadlines. A

1632
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 1: lot of things going on right now. Of course, you

1633
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that the NFL Hall of Fame Game

1634
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: is Thursday, and by the way, we're gonna get to

1635
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: see Caleb Williams. I would imagine this is one of

1636
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: the most bizarre things that happened. Headlines that I saw

1637
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: over the last month or so is that Eberflus was

1638
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: the favorite to win NFL Coach of the Year. Because

1639
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: when I saw he was the odds on favorite, just

1640
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 1: that part of it, I thought, odds on favorite to

1641
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,879
Speaker 1: not last beyond this year. He's the odds on favorite

1642
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: to be fired okay, either during or at the end

1643
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four season, and he may still

1644
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: well be that yep. And yet at the same time

1645
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: he is also the favorite to win NFL Coach of

1646
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: the Year. Well, the only time way that's going to

1647
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 1: happen is if the Bears win ten games and actually

1648
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: make it into the playoffs. You've seen as much of

1649
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, more so than I have, so You've watched

1650
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Caleb william I feel like your husband, Well,

1651
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: I watched plenty of him, But I want to get

1652
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,480
Speaker 1: your perspective here, because again we saw him at Oklahoma.

1653
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: He put Rattler on the bench, and then the next

1654
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: thing you know, he shows up at USC made about

1655
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. I had two years there and well

1656
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: worth it in terms of winning a Heisman Trophy. And

1657
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: then it's hard when you have to spot a team

1658
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: fifty points every week, as sc did a year ago.

1659
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, the comparisons are made about him and Patrick Mahomes.

1660
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: By the way, he was the first, the only other

1661
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: player other than Patrick Mahomes I believed to have at

1662
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: least thirty touchdowns and ten rushing touchdowns in consecutive years.

1663
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: Mahomes doing that at Texas Tech. So are you a

1664
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: believer that Caleb Williams This is the graveyard at quarterbacks.

1665
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 1: They haven't had a quarterback make the Pro Bowls since

1666
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon, wow, some forty years ago. So is Caleb

1667
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: Williams going to break that trend for the Bears and

1668
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: lead them to the Promised Land.

1669
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 2: My thought is he will be a go pro. I

1670
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 2: don't like this argument. Oh, this is the best situation

1671
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: that any rookie quarterback has ever walked into, because, as

1672
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: you said, coach on the hot seat, defensive head coach,

1673
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 2: and I know they've restructured the offensive staff, but it's

1674
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: like it's like, you know, he could be with a

1675
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: second head coach and a second play caller next year

1676
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: going into this. So I don't believe it's the best

1677
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 2: situation ever. I do think he I think he took

1678
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: too much criticism for these struggles of USC last year

1679
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: because you go back and look at his stats. Okay,

1680
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: and I remember talking about this around the draft, but

1681
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: the guy that everybody told me was wildly overrated a

1682
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: year ago, Okay, this is what he did last year

1683
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: in the season we deemed him wildly overrated. You referenced

1684
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 2: a lot of these stats he finished, how about this

1685
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 2: little ho hum sixty eight percent percent.

1686
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not that big of a deal.

1687
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: Thirty touchdowns, five interceptions, eleven rushing touchdowns.

1688
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: And those numbers were down significantly for the year before.

1689
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: Seventy two total passing touchdowns in two years at SC

1690
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: twenty one total rushing touchdowns. And here's the kicker that

1691
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 2: nobody really talks about. Okay, last year they the year

1692
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: one they had Jordan Addison. Okay, yeah, year two they

1693
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 2: had we should reference this. First off, they had the

1694
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 2: one hundred and nineteenth ranked total defense in all of

1695
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 2: college football, So that's out of one hundred thirty three teams.

1696
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: Not good.

1697
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 2: And they had one offensive player drafted in the first

1698
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: two rounds besides him, and that was a running back

1699
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 2: at pick number eighty eight. So the offensive line stunk,

1700
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: he had no go to wide receivers, the defense was

1701
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 2: historically bad, and so like you know, I was on

1702
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: air for a lot of those games he lost to

1703
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, when he lost to Washington, and I said,

1704
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 2: I've never encouraged a player to opt out, but I said,

1705
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 2: his team's letting him down. Is he just supposed to

1706
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 2: sit back there and get the crap kicked? And he

1707
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: did to his credits. So I think it's going to

1708
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 2: be a lot better than people. I don't understand the

1709
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: criticism of he's overrated. I don't know if he's generational.

1710
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: I hate anyone comparing him to Patrick Mahomes. I don't

1711
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: even know if he's you know, in that Andrew luck

1712
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: Tier but I think he's gonna be a really good info.

1713
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: I agree with you, he has obvious talent.

1714
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: An eyeball test, Yes, what happened the eyeball I'm a

1715
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: stat fanatic, but sometimes I take the step back and

1716
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,879
Speaker 1: I just used the eyeball test. When I watch Caleb Williams,

1717
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: I see a guy that can literally do anything he

1718
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 1: wants on the football field if given that opportunity. You

1719
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line was subpar a year ago, and

1720
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: just the pressure of knowing that we almost have to

1721
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: score every time we have the ball in order to

1722
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,799
Speaker 1: keep up with that historically bad defense.

1723
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: How about by the way, they went one in five

1724
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: down the stretch. Okay, last year, the one game that

1725
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: they won, they beat that was Cal. They beat Cal

1726
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: fifty to forty nine. Fifty to forty nine, because that

1727
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 2: was the game, because I vividly remember I remember that

1728
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 2: game like it might have been out of the studio.

1729
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: But they had lost too in a row, so they're

1730
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: they're they're basically out of everything.

1731
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

1732
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh, Caleb Williams quit on the team and

1733
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: I watching them, and every single possession, like I said,

1734
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 2: he's just throwing ninety yards down the field.

1735
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: That is not exactly a talented cal offense, by the way, exactly,

1736
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it was ridiculous. Yes, And

1737
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: by the way, that's on Lincoln Riley. I I Lincoln

1738
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 1: Riley to me is Cliff Kingsbury. Sure when people were

1739
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 1: saying Lincoln Riley a head coach in the NFL, no, No,

1740
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback coach, that's what he is. For them

1741
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: to go into last season with the reigning Heisman Trophy

1742
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,799
Speaker 1: winner and all the expectations, knowing they needed to upgrade

1743
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: that defense and instead put it in reverse, that's on

1744
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: a hick final three wins for USC last year gave

1745
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: up forty nine points forty one point points. Those are

1746
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,799
Speaker 1: in the wins, in the wins. This is the university

1747
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: than California. You can't get any defensive talent. Really. All right,

1748
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: let's quickly switch gears and talk about the AFC right now,

1749
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: the real Patrick Mahomes not together. So the real Patrick

1750
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes has a chance to make history. The Chiefs are

1751
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: the nineteen to win back to back Super Bowls. The

1752
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 1: other eight failed to make it three in a row.

1753
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: Some came close, some not. So when you look at

1754
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: this season coming up. The Chiefs to me are still

1755
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: the clear favorite. Yes, the guy was on record two

1756
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 1: years ago when Tyreek Hill left for Miami that that

1757
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: was the last we're going to hear of the Chiefs.

1758
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: I hate to say I still get emails about that,

1759
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 2: but yes, yes, I said bye bye because I thought,

1760
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 2: all right, well now you can you used to you

1761
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: had to pick your poison, Kelsey.

1762
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 1: Tyreek, which where you're going to go? Now you can

1763
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: forget that Mahomes. In my mind, I was trying to

1764
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: downplay Mahomes. He is the franchise quarterback of this league

1765
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: right now. But that being said, you look at the

1766
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 1: AFC right now. I'll give you three teams. You got

1767
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: the Ravens, you got the Bills, and you got the Bengals.

1768
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: One of those teams most likely is going to face

1769
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: off against the Chiefs in an AFC championship game. The

1770
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: question I ask you, Aaron Tarres, which one will it be?

1771
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Or do you have another team instead? The Jets? No, no, no,

1772
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: not the Jets.

1773
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: But download the podcast we just talked about JA So

1774
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: this is fascinating because listen why it's a fascinating question.

1775
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 2: You could punch holes in all three. Yeah, I will

1776
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: say a couple of things. I'm out on the Bills

1777
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,560
Speaker 2: more so because of McDermott than i am because of

1778
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. There's only so many big games in a

1779
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 2: row that you don't win it. Josh Allen was pretty

1780
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 2: good in that game last year against the against the Chiefs.

1781
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 2: By the way, Lamar Jackson, I'll defend him. I thought

1782
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 2: Todd Munkett just choked offensive court. Well, it was the

1783
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 2: worst game plan. You wouldn't or even guys like you

1784
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 2: and I can see. Well, I'm sitting here with Kerrie Rhodse, Yes,

1785
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: Louisville guy.

1786
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: He had talked to Lamar Jackson that week, so we

1787
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: were ties because you've talked to Lamar? How does he feel?

1788
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 1: And we were saying, the one thing you do not

1789
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: want to do is you know, match, you're not going

1790
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 1: to do out do mahomes doing mahomes. Okay, we know

1791
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 1: they're not going to do that. That would be ridiculous. Yep.

1792
01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they did. I know in a

1793
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: one score game. It wasn't like they were down three

1794
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns where hey, we gotta we gotta throw the football.

1795
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: That was it was the worst game plan.

1796
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when when guys like you and I could

1797
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: just sit on the couch and see, like what are

1798
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 2: you doing?

1799
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 1: Like you don't need to be an next player next?

1800
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 1: It was so obvious. So I defend I defend Lamar.

1801
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: I think that the Lamar narrative is nonsense because I

1802
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 2: think he got you know, his his coaching staff failed

1803
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 2: him last year. I don't buy McDermott. I think mcdermom

1804
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 2: should have been out whatever. So the answer to me

1805
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: is Joe Burrow, and I understand that the listen, the

1806
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: argument's one way or the other. Obvi, the argument against

1807
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow kind of gets hurt a lot. Two of

1808
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 2: is what four full seasons in the NFL he has

1809
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 2: not finished. The counter is, uh, beat him head to

1810
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: head and went and and just straight up. I mean

1811
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: that AFC Championship game where he lost was an all

1812
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 2: time classic. So that's my answer. But if you're asking me,

1813
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: do I feel really good about it? Am I pushing

1814
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 2: all the chips in the middle that that this is

1815
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 2: gonna happen? I can't say that I'm going to I'm.

1816
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: With you, I'm with you, I am I agree with you.

1817
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: I mean the bills you know again, I you know,

1818
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: when when teams seem to just plateau, which is where

1819
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the Bills have been. Yeah, I mean we've been talking

1820
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 1: about the Bills now for four years like they're they're

1821
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: on the cusp. Their best win is a close loss.

1822
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: That's a fact. They shootout against the Chiefs. So McDermott

1823
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 1: has not, for whatever reason, been able to get them

1824
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:58,280
Speaker 1: to that next level. The Lamar Jackson situation. Again, he's

1825
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:03,919
Speaker 1: what two and four now in playoff games, He's Dak Prescott.

1826
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Well you got to do it on the

1827
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: biggest stage. Joe Burrow won at Kansas City, he did

1828
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: in an AFC championship game, and easily could have won

1829
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: another one too. Right, So I agree with you. But

1830
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 1: as far as Burrow's health is concern, it's gonna be

1831
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: in question. There's no question about that, all right. Coming

1832
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 1: up on the other side, we're gonna switch gears. I

1833
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 1: had a question for you, Yes, oh no, no, no,

1834
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: we covered it all right, We have it on the

1835
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 1: other side. But on the other side, we're gonna switch gears.

1836
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: Get ready for the MLB trade deadline just days away.

1837
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 1: What blockbuster trades could be made our MLB insider John

1838
01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: Paul Morosi will tell us. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1839
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and air tours. Here Fox Sports Sunday. We

1840
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 1: are live from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. All right,

1841
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things going on. We have the Olympic

1842
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 1: Games going on right now. The NFL Hall of Fame

1843
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Game is Thursday, and oh yeah, Major League Baseball is

1844
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 1: zeroing in on the trade deadline. Are we going to

1845
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: see a blockbuster deal? We're going to see a game

1846
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: changing deal to alter the course of the remainder of

1847
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: the MLB season. One guy knows the answers to all

1848
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: those questions and more. He is our MLB insider here

1849
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio, the one, the only, the Great,

1850
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: John Paul Morossi. So, JP, let's get right to it.

1851
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 1: What are you hearing? Are we going to see any

1852
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: kind We've seen some trades already been made. Uh, but

1853
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: are we going to see that big blockbuster trade that

1854
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 1: every once in a while actually happens at the trade deadline?

1855
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,680
Speaker 7: Well, Steeven Aaron Happy trade deadline weekend and week of

1856
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 7: course it is six pm Eastern Time Tuesday, three pm

1857
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 7: Pacific Tuesday. I think we've already seen some impactful moves.

1858
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 7: Randy or Rosarina going to Seattle really stands out to me.

1859
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 7: The Orioles adding Zach Eflin to help their rotation are

1860
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,879
Speaker 7: pretty interesting thing. Contender with contender trade between the Phillies

1861
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 7: and Orioles as well. But I'll say this, it would

1862
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 7: not surprise me if the biggest name who has moved

1863
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 7: between now and Tuesday is Blake Snell, the reigning Cyung

1864
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 7: Award winner. Of course, he's now pitching for the Giants. Now,

1865
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 7: if you look at his era for the full season,

1866
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 7: it is deceiving because he wasn't really one hundred percent

1867
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 7: ready to go when the season began because of being

1868
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 7: late signing and getting started, and then he had a

1869
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 7: physical ailment that he had to work through. But his

1870
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 7: last four starts have been magnificent. Yesterday he struck out

1871
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 7: fifteen batters in six innings, which means only three batters

1872
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 7: were as talented enough to actually record it out on

1873
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 7: a ball hit in play. So he is dealing on

1874
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 7: a level that we have rarely seen in baseball this

1875
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 7: season from anybody. And now the Giants, who would look

1876
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 7: like sellers, they could be to move his contract, which

1877
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 7: interestingly has a twenty twenty five component to it at

1878
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 7: thirty million dollars, but he can opt out of it

1879
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 7: after this season, so that might make it a little

1880
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 7: bit unique for teams to have to navigate to know

1881
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 7: that he could opt out. But in general, I think

1882
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 7: Blake Snell's market has really developed in recent days, whereas

1883
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 7: I think it's becoming very unlikely that Garrett Crochet of

1884
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 7: the White Sox is going anywhere.

1885
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 2: So what would be a couple teams that are realistic

1886
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 2: for Blake Snell.

1887
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 7: JP Well, I think the Yankees, we know Aaron. They

1888
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 7: had a lot of dialogue with Blake Snell's camp during

1889
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 7: the offseason. I think they are one team to watch.

1890
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 7: The Houston Astros are another team to watch. It's interesting.

1891
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 7: I would not necessarily expect him to go back to

1892
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 7: the Padres. The Padres, as you know, are always up

1893
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 7: to make a trade, but in this case, I don't

1894
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 7: think he would go back to San Diego after leaving

1895
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 7: their last off season. One team that I don't think

1896
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:03,759
Speaker 7: will get Snell, but will likely get a starting pitcher

1897
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 7: of some quality would be the Milwaukee Brewers. They have

1898
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 7: been able to be the leaders in the nation League Central,

1899
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 7: despite a lot of injuries for them with their pitching

1900
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 7: staff this season. So I think the Brewers could make

1901
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 7: us splash. The Twins could make us splash as well,

1902
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,080
Speaker 7: though I doubt the Twins would be in the market

1903
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,439
Speaker 7: for Blake Stell, and I think both of those teams

1904
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,600
Speaker 7: might be a little more amenable to a Jack Flaherty

1905
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 7: from the Tigers or a yuse Kakuchi from the Blue Jays,

1906
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 7: both of whom are going to be free agents when

1907
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 7: this season is over.

1908
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,759
Speaker 1: Well, one team that knows the pressures on is the Dodgers.

1909
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean when you when you lay out over a

1910
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of new contracts in the offseason, coming

1911
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: off disastrous first round losses each of the last year

1912
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: two years to in division rivals winning the World Series

1913
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Speaker 1: or else, and there's been so much uncertainty with this

1914
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Speaker 1: Dodger pitching, still a lot of question marks moving far forward.

1915
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Speaker 1: So do you expect them to try to make a

1916
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: deal to add to their pitching or are they satisfied

1917
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: with the idea that those guys that have been on

1918
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 1: the sidelines are on the man will be back in

1919
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Speaker 1: the fold in time for the postseason.

1920
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Speaker 7: Well, I do think that they will look to add

1921
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 7: one more starter, although you've got a credit River Ryan

1922
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 7: out there again today fitching with a lead now against

1923
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 7: the Houston Astros, another quality start for the rookie at

1924
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 7: twenty five years of age. The River Ryan might be

1925
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 7: part of the answer that they do hope to get

1926
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 7: continued quality from Glass now and kershaw Stone obviously has

1927
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 7: been one of their more consistent arms, and which is

1928
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 7: why they were comfortable moving on from James Packson, who

1929
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 7: was dealt back to the Boston Red Sox. I think

1930
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 7: those Theeves, they have to find a way to get

1931
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 7: one more arm. Maybe it's not going to be as

1932
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 7: splashy as a Trek Scooble, but I would think that

1933
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 7: Eric Fetti from the Chicago from the Chicago White Sox

1934
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 7: could be an option. I think they're a team the

1935
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 7: White Sox that I mentioned a moment ago, Garrett Crochet

1936
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 7: and likely not getting moved. But Eric Fetti, because of

1937
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 7: the consistency that he brings, I think he's a really

1938
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 7: interesting pitcher for a lot of teams to look at.

1939
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 7: And so in general, my point of the Dodgers is

1940
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 7: exactly what you're describing. They have been so aggressive in

1941
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 7: spending in the offseason that you almost to justify the

1942
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 7: previous spending, you have to keep spending. I'm not sure

1943
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 7: that actually works in real life, but it does work

1944
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 7: in baseball to an extent. And if the Dodgers are

1945
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 7: intent on maximizing this window to your point, I don't

1946
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,680
Speaker 7: know what they can expect to get from Yamamoto or

1947
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 7: anybody else's coming back from the IL. Bobby Biller is

1948
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 7: still in the minor leagues. Walker Bueler is not yet

1949
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 7: close to getting back to the big league, So I

1950
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 7: think they have to find a way to add one

1951
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 7: more arm, whether it's Flaherty or Kakuchi or potentially again.

1952
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 7: I'd be really surprised if they went with the Blakes now,

1953
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 7: just based on being in the same division and art rivals.

1954
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 7: But I do think Eric Fetti and the Dodgers could

1955
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:55,839
Speaker 7: be another really good combination.

1956
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,800
Speaker 1: Jap let me ask you, maybe an inderer question.

1957
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: Every time I log on social media, I'm being told

1958
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 2: how terrible Aaron Boone is as the manager of the

1959
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: New York Yankees. Now, I understand they just got swept

1960
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 2: by the Mets, but you know, a game out of

1961
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 2: first place comfortably in a spot for a wild card.

1962
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 2: They make the playoffs basically every year that he's there.

1963
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,280
Speaker 2: Why is there so much disdain with him, or seemingly

1964
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 2: so much disdain with him.

1965
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: In New York?

1966
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 7: Well, Aaron, I think it just has to do with

1967
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 7: with the demands of the New York fans more than

1968
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 7: anything else. I'm a big believer in Aaron Boone. And

1969
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 7: one of the reasons that I'm a big believer in

1970
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 7: Aaron Boone is that Aaron Judge is a big believer

1971
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 7: in Aaron Boone. And Juan Soto has come in and

1972
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 7: had a phenomenal year, And so I look to those

1973
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,520
Speaker 7: types of players and say, is there a good environment

1974
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,679
Speaker 7: for the elite players to thrive? And the answer is yes.

1975
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 7: The people that really make the big decisions, those who

1976
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 7: are the drivers of the culture.

1977
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: There.

1978
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 7: Garrett Cole is one more example. They're on board with

1979
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 7: Aaron Boone. The issue with the with the Yankees is

1980
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 7: that their lineup revolves so much around Judge and Soto. Now,

1981
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 7: of course, with the addition of Jazzism, maybe that role

1982
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 7: and the responsibility are going to be evened out a

1983
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 7: bit more. But in general, Aaron Boone has gotten his

1984
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 7: guys to play, and Aaron Boone is not to blame

1985
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 7: for the diminishment in Glabor Torres, the diminishment in DJ Lemayhew,

1986
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 7: Anthony Rizzo being hurt a lot. These things are not

1987
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 7: his fault. And if I was looking at this team

1988
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 7: and saying, Wow, they're totally listless, they're not playing hard,

1989
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 7: they don't have it, they're not cohesive, it'd be a

1990
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 7: different story. I think they are. They have been, in

1991
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 7: a lot of ways doomed by two things, a bullpen

1992
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,280
Speaker 7: that's been inconsistent and a lineup that really is too

1993
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 7: dependent on two players. And I really have a hard

1994
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 7: time blaming Aaron Boom for either of those things. If

1995
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,600
Speaker 7: he had the Nasty Boys reincarnate in the back end

1996
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 7: of the bullpen from nineteen ninety and then it was

1997
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 7: the best play than ever and he was continually misusing them,

1998
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 7: I would have a different answer for you. But I

1999
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 7: just think that he's actually done pretty well with what

2000
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:11,040
Speaker 7: he's with what he's had, and he can handle the

2001
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 7: pressure of New York. Whether he's won a World Series,

2002
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 7: obviously he has not been to one in his tenure

2003
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 7: as the Yankee manager, but he has consistently gotten this

2004
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 7: team to the dance, and there's as much as there's

2005
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 7: a high standard on this team and people Yankee fans

2006
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 7: expecting a lot from them. When I think back at

2007
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 7: the Boone era, so from twenty eighteen to now, I

2008
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 7: really can't come up with many years in which they

2009
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,000
Speaker 7: were knocked out by a team that I thought was

2010
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 7: clearly inferior to them. Most of the times that they've

2011
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 7: been knocked out, it's been against the team that I

2012
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 7: thought was clearly better or at least as good and

2013
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 7: was on a mission. And that again is what I'm

2014
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 7: seeing from the New York Yankees. They look like they're,

2015
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 7: unfortunately for them, somewhat poised to have a similar fate.

2016
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 7: But the part of their salvation here is the Baltimore

2017
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 7: Orioles have come back to the tack a little bit too,

2018
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 7: while the Red Sox have surged. So I think we're

2019
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 7: all of a sudden looking at a really fascinating three

2020
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 7: team race down the stretch of the American League East.

2021
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: Well, JP, it's always amazing we're up against it, but

2022
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: I know we know at this point if you say

2023
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 1: we always had that snapshot, like, well, if the playoffs

2024
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: started today, this team is in or this team is out.

2025
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 1: We know that at this time every year there's a

2026
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: team not in the playoffs that once we get the

2027
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: playoff time, they're in the playoffs. So over the next

2028
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, we'll see how it shakes out with

2029
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, will start zeroing in on teams maybe

2030
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 1: poised to make a run over the last couple of

2031
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 1: months of the regular season. JP, great stuff. We'll see

2032
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 1: what happens with the big trade deadline coming up on Tuesday.

2033
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 7: You got it, my friends. And by the way, four

2034
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:51,759
Speaker 7: good candidates for that status Red Sox, Mariners, Mets, and Cardinals.

2035
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 7: None would be in the playoffs that they begin today.

2036
01:42:54,520 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 7: It's pretty good case that all of them could could

2037
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,759
Speaker 7: find their way into the dance. So wild card races

2038
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 7: are going to be amazing the stretch this year.

2039
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I love the Mariners to eighteen team batting average to eighteen.

2040
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 7: We'll get better. Add one more bat Jerry to Poto

2041
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,759
Speaker 7: do it in the next thirty six hours.

2042
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: Wow man, all right, man, Hi jape w. Well, see

2043
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 1: how it shakes out. Thanks so much for checking with

2044
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 1: you next week.

2045
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:16,639
Speaker 7: Looking forward to it. Thanks.

2046
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: That's Sean Paul Morosi, our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider. Now,

2047
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,919
Speaker 1: speaking of insiders, let's find out what is a trending

2048
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: right now. A man that has been immersed in thousands,

2049
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: literally thousands of medals being handed out at these Olympic.

2050
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 4: Games, a lot of them going to Americans too, Steve

2051
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 4: Ryan Murphy. He advanced to the men's one hundred meters

2052
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 4: backstroke finals. USA is Lily King moving on to the

2053
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 4: women's hundred meter breaststroke finals. If she's able to get

2054
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 4: a medal, it'll be her third in a row, taking

2055
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 4: the bronze in Tokyo and the Golden Rio. So we'll

2056
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 4: see if the American can make it three for three.

2057
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,960
Speaker 4: US women's soccer leads Germany three to one in the

2058
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 4: second half. Leif Keefer has defended her gold medal in

2059
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 4: the fencing individual foils, beat American Lawrence Scruggs, who took

2060
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 4: home the silver in her Olympic debut. Usa is Nick

2061
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 4: Fink ties for silver in the men's one hundred meter breastroke.

2062
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Great Britain also finished the second place.

2063
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 4: Italy won the gold, American women finished first and second,

2064
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 4: and a hundred meter butterfly Tory Husky gold medal Gretchen Waltz,

2065
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 4: the silver Coco golf, made her Olympic debut today. She

2066
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 4: defeated the first round her first round opponent and straight

2067
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 4: sets without losing a single game. The United States Men's

2068
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 4: Olympic basketball team started pool play with an eighth one

2069
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 4: ten to eighty four went over Serbia.

2070
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, in his first Olympic.

2071
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 4: Action so far, looked great, twenty three points, five for

2072
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 4: five from three off the bench.

2073
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 1: Lebron twenty one to eight to nine.

2074
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 4: Jokic for the losing side, had twenty points, five rebounds

2075
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 4: and eight assists. Simobiles qualified for the all around final

2076
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 4: despite dealing with left calf dis comfort. Files and soon

2077
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 4: e Lee will represent the United States in the events won.

2078
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 4: He lead the reigning gold medal winner Team USA is

2079
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 4: also qualified for the team Women's of NASA's final. Women's

2080
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 4: mountain biking saw the best result we've in the United

2081
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 4: States history. Haley Batton took home the silver medal. Men's

2082
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 4: water polo lost to Italy twelve to eight in group play.

2083
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: And there you go. That's all. I got a lot

2084
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 1: of different things going on.

2085
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 4: That's it, I know, right Well, Beach volleyball is going

2086
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 4: on right now, the United States with a one two

2087
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 4: game lead.

2088
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: Here, I said, one game in and they're eight to

2089
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 1: five in the second set. Here here you I think,

2090
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure if beach.

2091
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 4: Volleyball goes by the same rules as tennis. All these

2092
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 4: scores with you know, different frames. Give me a clock,

2093
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 4: Steve and points, and that's how I know how to

2094
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 4: keep track. O.

2095
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: The worst is the judges cards, those sports that are

2096
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:48,440
Speaker 1: incited by judges cards. That's where really really is unbelievable.

2097
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: All right, thank you Martin, so much good news. There

2098
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2115
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Speaker 1: who is now the head coach at Arkansas for exiting Kentucky.

2116
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Speaker 1: And I saw an interview that he did a few

2117
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Speaker 1: days ago and words came out of his mouth that

2118
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2119
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: speaking of college basketball players should stay in school. Now,

2120
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Speaker 1: this is a guy who literally when he went to

2121
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Speaker 1: Kentucky told Boogie Cousins and John Wall you're out. And

2122
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Speaker 1: the part was Boogie Cousins wanted to actually stay, and.

2123
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Speaker 2: Boogie Cousins before the final road trip, said don't give

2124
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Speaker 2: away my scholarship.

2125
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Speaker 1: I'm coming back, and he tore you know, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a fact. And and it's a fact that Cali Perry said, no,

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Speaker 1: you're leaving. Yes, yes, So this guy obviously has been

2128
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Speaker 1: a big proponent of the one and done. He did

2129
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: admit last year's team was, even by his standards, insanely young,

2130
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 1: and he paid the price. Especially now with nil money

2131
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 1: being handed out, more and more players are staying the

2132
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Speaker 1: extra year of college. Look at Haimi hake as a

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01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 1: UCLA great example. Uh look how dicidingful he was by

2134
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: staying and increases draft stock and obviously to pay dividends

2135
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: with a great rookie season with the heat. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see more and more veteran teams and look at

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01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 1: the final force the last couple of years. Look at

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01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: that San Diego State team that made it the championship game.

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Speaker 1: I got a six years. It was ridiculous.

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01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 7: But is that.

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01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: The way we're moving forward? If a Cali Perry is

2142
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: now saying I need guys to stay in school, encouraging

2143
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: guys to stay in school, and now we can because

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: we can legally pay them, is I mean? Because it's

2145
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: been frustrating to me as a college basketball fan, especially

2146
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 1: coming from a school like UCLA, the one and Dunn's

2147
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 1: and just the constant turnover of talent that we've seen

2148
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: in Bass college basketball for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: Are those days over?

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Speaker 2: So it's funny, and I know I'm the college hoops guy,

2151
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 2: but I think there was about a six to seven

2152
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 2: year stretch where it wasn't cool to be a college

2153
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 2: basketball player. You come and then the second that you're

2154
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 2: even considered a pro prospect, even in the second round,

2155
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 2: you gotta go to make your money.

2156
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Now I think it has completely flipped the other way.

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Speaker 2: We're listen the guys that are no doubt about it,

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01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 2: first round guys, not not first round, like top fifteen

2159
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 2: guys like yeah, you gotta go, Like Paolo Bankaro was

2160
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 2: awesome at Duke ched Holmgren was awesome at Gonzaga. Even

2161
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 2: this year reached Sheppard. I think there was a half

2162
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 2: a second where he thought about coming back, but he

2163
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 2: had to go. I think those guys if because if

2164
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 2: you're like a top ten, top fifteen pick, it really

2165
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 2: is life changing money that even nil can't pay. Right

2166
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 2: and you can even go back to remember the NFL Draft,

2167
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: there was like a half a second where people were

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01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 2: like Marvin Harrison, could he stay nil? And it was

2169
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 2: like when you really broke down what a rookie contract

2170
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 2: was gonna be for Marvin Harrison. It was like, yeah,

2171
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 2: Ohio State, even Ohio State can't compete with that. Where

2172
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 2: I think it gets interesting is late first round, early

2173
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 2: second round. You're not guaranteed to get a first round selection,

2174
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 2: you're not guaranteed money. Then the whole calculus changes. I'll

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01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 2: use my alma mater as an example. Alex Caraban was

2176
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 2: like the fourth leading scorer on this year's team this

2177
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:07,839
Speaker 2: university Connecticut. I think he would have certainly been drafted,

2178
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 2: and I don't think it's out of the rum of

2179
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,240
Speaker 2: possibility that he would have been a first rounder. But

2180
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: at the same time, he didn't know he was going

2181
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: to be a first rounder. He's a semester away from

2182
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,920
Speaker 2: his degree, and so for him, he sat there and said,

2183
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: I can go, but I'm not guaranteed money. I'll come

2184
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,879
Speaker 2: back to Yukon. You know, Yukon doesn't have the nil

2185
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 2: war chest that some of these other schools have, but

2186
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 2: they he's not. You know, you know, he's doing okay,

2187
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 2: he's doing just fine. So he's making money. He can

2188
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: develop at his own pace. He was a little bit

2189
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 2: banged up this year. He didn't really put his best

2190
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 2: foot forward, and I think We are seeing that in

2191
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 2: both college football and even college basketball. Even college football

2192
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,799
Speaker 2: as well. I mean you look at Ohio State. Will Howard,

2193
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 2: the quarterback that transferred there could have been maybe a

2194
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 2: six to seventh round pick, goes to Ohio State. Riley

2195
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,679
Speaker 2: Leonard the new quarterback at Notre Dame. He was projected

2196
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 2: as a first rounder at Duke. He gets hurt, his

2197
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: coach leaves. He says, let me come back to college

2198
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 2: for another year. So I have been a little bit

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Speaker 2: negative on NIL because I think it has become a

2200
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: thing that it wasn't supposed to be. But that's a

2201
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,439
Speaker 2: very long winded way of me saying I think it's

2202
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 2: helping kids stay in school longer than they would have otherwise,

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01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: and I like that.

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Speaker 1: Of concern to me, though, is the transfer portal? Well,

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01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. So where are we

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01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: going with that? I mean, what is the idea of

2207
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 1: literally total free agency whenever you want, if you want

2208
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: to play five schools in five years. It's we've got

2209
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Speaker 1: to figure out a better way than that, well really quick.

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Speaker 1: So two things.

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Speaker 2: One, it was funny because you said I didn't like

2212
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 2: where college basketball was with all these guys leaving college.

2213
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 2: It's like, well, now they're coming back. You just got

2214
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 2: to understand that they still might only be at your

2215
01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 2: school for one year.

2216
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Speaker 1: So that's that. But I will say, by the way,

2217
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 1: I am happy that of the transfer portal to rebuild

2218
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 1: mc cronin's UCLA program. Oh yeah, now when the players

2219
01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: are good, you know, mind that's funny. Let all the

2220
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: Euros go and say except for the seven three guy Marrow,

2221
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 1: but I've read something he said bye bye and have

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01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 1: you know, don't let the door hitch on the way out.

2223
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Speaker 2: We're going to bring in an entire new team. Well

2224
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 2: it was funny when you said, oh I don't like

2225
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 2: the one and done. It's like, I bet you liked

2226
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 2: it the year that Lonzo was there and they won

2227
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 2: thirty games. But right, anyway, so the portal is interesting,

2228
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 2: and listen, I don't think there's anything they can do

2229
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: until athletes actually become literal employees of a university because

2230
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Speaker 2: the NCAA.

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01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 1: Listen, everybody wants to blame the NCAA. The NCAA follows the.

2232
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Speaker 2: Supervision of you know, the coaches are the ones that

2233
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 2: vote on this stuff and put this stuff into place.

2234
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Speaker 1: So all the coaches wanted the one time transfer.

2235
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, they got a guy who's

2236
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Speaker 2: transferred for a second time, he's not eligible.

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Speaker 1: They start throwing fits.

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Speaker 7: You know.

2239
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Speaker 2: I think the best example of that it was funny

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Speaker 2: this week at ACC Media Days, Mac Brown comes out

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01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 2: and says college sports isn't even recognizable. There's been more

2242
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: change in the last three years than in my first

2243
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 2: forty seven. Okay, Mac Brown, Well, guess what the NCAA

2244
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 2: tried to put into one time transfer rule last year.

2245
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 2: You had a wide receiver named tes Walker who was awesome,

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01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 2: who was ineligible, and you threw a fit and you

2247
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 2: went on every national talk You know, Ben Mallard could

2248
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 2: have gotten him at three am to do an interview

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Speaker 2: because he was on every talk show that he possibly

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Speaker 2: could have. That's not a shot at Ben Mallard's just

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Speaker 2: Mac Brown would have woken up at two am to

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01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 2: do an interview because he was so mad about it.

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01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 2: So blame some of the coaches, But as far as

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01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 2: the portal is concerned, nothing's changing until these players are

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Speaker 2: actual employees. Because you can just use the whole you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever the term is. I don't even know the legal

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01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 2: term that there's it holds him backs.

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01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Well. I used to say this about coaches, the elite

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01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: coaches in college football and college basketball, that if you

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: get to that level, he used to be the cushiest

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Speaker 1: job in America. I mean, from a recruiting standpoint, maybe

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01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:57,360
Speaker 1: there are one or two five star recruits that need

2263
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: to close the door and you walk in. Paterno did

2264
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,599
Speaker 1: this at Penn State. I remember talking to Freema McNeil,

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Speaker 1: former Jet running back, great player at UCLA. Woody Hayes

2266
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 1: showed up as his house in Banning, California. Sure, but

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Speaker 1: that was it. The assistants did the majority of the group. Now,

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01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: there is so much on your plate to be a

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01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 1: head coach of these schools, and it's so competitive. Don't

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Speaker 1: be surprised again, for you know, Mac Brown came out

2271
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,920
Speaker 1: of retirement, already inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: to return to North Carolina. He's not long for the

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01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: It's tough. If you're openly complaining about it, you're gone. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to head coach Power four. I guess

2275
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: it's now Power four Conference. He said that since he's

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01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: going on vacation this week, and he said it's the

2277
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 2: first vacation I've had since before last season started, because

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01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: the season starts and then you immediately have to go

2279
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 2: into the portal stuff. Then you immediately have to go

2280
01:54:58,360 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: into summer recruiting. You get your team back on campus.

2281
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 2: Now you can have eight weeks of practice. So August

2282
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 2: is the first time that he has had a vacation

2283
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 2: since last dougs. Now, maybe you know he got away

2284
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 2: for a day or two fourth of July. I don't

2285
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 2: want to oversell it, but first time that he's been

2286
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 2: away for more than two or three days for non

2287
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 2: work related stuff in a year.

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Speaker 1: Well as someone that did a seven day work week

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Speaker 1: for over two years. You know, it's not a bad thing.

2290
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: You gotta have something to do, you know. On the

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 1: other side, what kind of week ahead is it going

2292
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: to be? In a very very busy, busy sports week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down for you. This is Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin airon Tourist, Fox Sports Sunday Live

2295
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: from the tai Iraq dot Com studios. Want to thank

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01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 1: our fearless crew today Martin jumping in all over those

2297
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: Olympic results that will be going on for the next

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks VJ. Husky's cousin won some sort of VJ. Yes,

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Speaker 1: exactly in swimming, no less, yeah, exactly associate the Husky

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01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: family with swimming. But that shows you, well, you know Chris.

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01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: I got to ask Chris who is I mean, he

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Speaker 1: is the real deal when it comes to fandom for

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Speaker 1: the Olympic Games. So have the games been up to

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01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: the level you would expect being a connoisseur of the

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01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: Olympic Games?

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Speaker 3: I think there is something to be said that it

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01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 3: is in our time zone makes it a little bit

2308
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 3: easier to not quite our time zone, but at least

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Speaker 3: more tolerable than some past years, like Beijing Tokyo. Like

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Speaker 3: Beijing Tokyo, those are rough when that all comes on.

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01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 3: You know, it's twelve hours a were oute away from

2312
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Speaker 3: East Coast time.

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Speaker 1: Or Citney was tough, but you were there. I was six,

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01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: I was fourteen. He dropped that early. Oh yeah, I was.

2315
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's funny I think the Sydney Games

2316
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:42,840
Speaker 1: were in because obviously their seasons are different. Was that late?

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Speaker 1: That was late September two? About this, So in fifty

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Speaker 1: six the Summer Games are in Melbourne. They were in

2319
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 1: December in fact, Bill Russell, having just won the national

2320
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: championship at the University of San Francisco back to back years,

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: he wanted to be on the Olympic team the latest corotar.

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01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 1: So that's why if you look at the record books,

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 1: he missed over thirty games.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now he ultimately won the championship that year. But that

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01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 1: is why Tommy Heinz and his teammate and not Bill Russell,

2327
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: was named the NBA Rookie of the Year because he

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01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: actually played a full year. Bill Russell did not because

2329
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: he had to wait for the Olympics that weren't until December.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting because I don't think they're

2331
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 3: doing that offset at all for Brisbane, which is coming

2332
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 3: up after the LA Olympics, so it might be very

2333
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 3: cold down there. But no, I think Paris is completely

2334
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 3: as a venue has lived up to it. I really

2335
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 3: wish we had could have seen Tokyo with people there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think that would have been fantastic. I still love

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Speaker 3: that they had a giant Gundam hanging over the cycling

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Speaker 3: course and everything on the streets.

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Speaker 1: But Paris has been It's Paris. You really cannot compete

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Speaker 1: with Paris. Paris is an incredibly beautiful city. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons my daughter is named Paris. And by the way, Bo,

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Speaker 1: you heard earlier Aaron taut the Washington Commanders as a

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Speaker 1: possible upset team to make it into the postseason. As

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Speaker 1: our resident Eagle fan, Uh, do you have that kind

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Speaker 1: of belief in the Commanders being approved? With Jade and Daners,

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Speaker 1: can you also share your thoughts on him? We have

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Speaker 1: a big contry.

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Speaker 8: You kind of stole my flow word for word on

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Speaker 8: the Carolina Panthers because we did this. We did this

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Speaker 8: with VJ a couple of weeks ago, and everything you

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Speaker 8: said about the Panthers is what I said about the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Well, but you did. And then what added to it

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Speaker 1: was what Jeff Short said yesterday. So Jeff obviously living

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Speaker 1: down there in the Carolina area, and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about teams that could surprise, and he brought up the

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Speaker 1: Panthers as well.

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Speaker 8: I think we're all just scared of Big Mike and

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Speaker 8: his Panthers fandom, so we don't want to upset him

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Speaker 8: Big Micah.

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Speaker 1: But you have to understand, and Aaron's right on with this,

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Speaker 1: Tepper is oh nightmare.

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Speaker 8: He might be the worst owner in sports.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it hasn't taken long for him to be

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Speaker 1: like Daniel Snyder et. I mean, throwing ice and drinks

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Speaker 1: at fans like to.

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Speaker 3: Think you had a very easy role. Just come over

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Speaker 3: and take over from Jerry Riggs, and you've ruined it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is a disaster. Oh you're right,

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Speaker 1: that's a great point, Professor. The bar was so low

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Speaker 1: post Terry Vituals.

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Speaker 8: I will say, though, the one thing I disagree with

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Speaker 8: Aaron on with the Commanders is the division games are

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Speaker 8: never gimmes. Ever, so it's tough for me to say like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 8: they're gonna win too, They're gonna sweet Giants, and they could.

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Speaker 8: They could because they almost did last year, and but

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Speaker 8: and they could beat the Cowboys, and.

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Speaker 1: The possibility, in your guys opinion that the Giants are

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Speaker 1: not going to be the absolute disaster that everyone thinks

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Speaker 1: are going to be awful. They're there's nothing lost it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy was the most highly data coach

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Speaker 3: in the league year. I still think he's a good coach.

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Speaker 3: But they have just tied their They've tied their roster

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Speaker 3: to these just anchor Stones and Daniel Jones and these

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Speaker 3: got that deal.

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Speaker 1: Because Brian Dable, who's convinced he was that guy.

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Speaker 8: I feel like the maybe Dable like didn't quite make

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Speaker 8: Josh Allen. Maybe Josh Allen made Brian Dable.

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Speaker 1: Well that that's the reverse of what everyone thought. Because obviously,

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Speaker 1: when you look at what Josh Allen had been for

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Speaker 1: two years in Buffalo, we've never seen a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: through college in his first two years was a blow

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Speaker 1: sixty percent passer and then in one year suddenly he's

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Speaker 1: completing sixty eight percent of his pass The thing it

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Speaker 1: has never happened.

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Speaker 2: The thing that's unfortunate is every guy that has come

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Speaker 2: out since is like, well, you know, I mean this

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Speaker 2: guy completed fifty four percent of his passes at Purdue,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, you know Josh Allen did it.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, there's an exception to every rule, and

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Speaker 1: the exception of the rule makes the rule. There's all

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Speaker 1: you want Josh Allen is there is There is no

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Speaker 1: no player, no quarterback with a statistical comparison of Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: It's complete anomaly out there, all right. So this week,

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Speaker 1: sure Fame game, does this have more interest because of Cayler?

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Speaker 1: Better play least a series I would assume he won.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to play quite a bit in

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Speaker 1: this preseason. That's a new system he's got to get

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Speaker 1: used to, right. I'll be there Thursday watching football's back, baby.

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Speaker 1: It is all right. And with that and all the

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Speaker 1: other news, including all your Olympic news, keep it right here.

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