1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Thank you Dannage. On the day when you get opportunity 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: in the game, they can play, Oh don't do it? 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: What touchdown? Kansas City? The Chiefs all right in the 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: thick of a baby. Welcome once again, one and all 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: throughout the Chiefs Kingdom. It's time for another edition of 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom. Brotching by three sixty Vodka, official vodka 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chief's Kingdom. We 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: appreciate those folks. Mitch Holters with you the Voice of 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,959 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, along with Matt mcmulland Chief's Reporter. And I've 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: already received some tweets from folks that what they're doing 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: when they listen or watch Defending the Kingdom. I got 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one from the leader of the Irish Brigade. Wow, yeah, 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: he's he is a Army veteran, full bird colonel, but 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: he loves defending the Kingdom. But he said, here's what 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: I was doing. He's riding his bike, had his helmet 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: on a long bike ride like our John Matthews. So 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: let us let us know what are you doing when 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: you're listening to Defending the Kingdom. Maybe we don't want 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: to know anyway, This edition of the Chiefs Kingdom deals 20 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: with preseason game number one against the forty nine ers 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: on Saturday night, and we're gonna title it. There's more 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: than meets the eye and ear with preseason football, especially 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: this game, so let's dive right into it. You and 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: I have both seen preseason football end careers. We have 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: both seen him enhanced careers. Sure, and I would say this. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's an outlandish comment, Matt that the 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs probably wouldn't have won Super Bowl fifty four had 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: it not been for preseason football, especially in twenty eighteen. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: It's a crazy thought, isn't it. But every single year 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: we see guys elevate in the preseason, make this team, 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: and at some point make a play either that season 32 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: or later on down the roads. I think of the 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: guys that have made this team out of the preseason, 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: guys like Byron Pringle in twenty eighteen. He was injured 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: but still eventually made the team on I R and 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: then we've seen what he's done in the year since. 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: But he blew up in a Green Bay game. He 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: did yet, and so it was like, wow, Okay, he's legit. 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: You knew he had something and I think he got 40 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: hurt on that play, I think, but ended up making 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: the team on I arm made the team the next 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: year and made some huge plays later on for this team. 43 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: We've seen him do that. Ben Nieman in two and 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: eighteen made this team, remember the pick six against the 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. And now he's I mean a quasi starter 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: on this team. A lot of starts, a lot of 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: big place for him over the course of his career 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: here in Kansas City. Darrell Williams in twenty and eighteen. 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: I think how big Darrell's been on this team over 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. I mean, he's been kind 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: of the steady force in that tailback room and other 52 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: guys have been injured. I mean, Darrell's been hurt a 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: few times, but still Darrell's always the guy you can 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: count on. One of my favorite stats have been up 55 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: putting out there recently is the Chiefs four different times 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: last year put the ball in Darrell's hands on fourth 57 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: and short and he converted every single time forty five 58 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: yards and scrimmage and a touchdown. So you find that 59 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: guy in the preseason. And lastly, Andrew Wiley forget about him, 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: but he wasn't a name. No one knew who Andrew 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Wiley was way back in twenty seventeen. He made this 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: team out of camp because of what he did out 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: here on the field and in the preseason. So yeah, 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: basically just bounced around practice squads exactly. Yeah, And this 65 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: is finally your chance to go out there and show 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: that you belong in this league, you belong on this 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: team when we've seen it time and time again. Guys 68 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: that everyone knows now are just part of the team 69 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: they started in the preseason, and we'll see who it 70 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: is this year. And I love that you mentioned those 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: guys in specific. Let's just take Pringle and Nieman in 72 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four, like, why are you talking about 73 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: preseason football and Super Bowl fifty four. Nieman and Pringle 74 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: made two of the most underrated plays in that game 75 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: with their kickoff coverage plays when the Chiefs were putting 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the heat on and on the drive that was critical 77 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: for defense to get him off the field. Again, he 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: came on the blitz, remember San Francisco wanted a helmet 79 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: hit and basically jack the jaw of Jimmy Garoppolo. And 80 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: then I apologize to the Chiefs Kingdom for all of 81 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: these years. In Super Bowl fifty four and all of 82 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the months on the road Runday Immortality by Damian Williams, 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: I talk about sausages block that would not be a 84 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: touchdown had it not been for Buyer and Pringle taken 85 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: the San Francisco corner and running him into the Atlantic Ocean. 86 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so again, it's the preseason football pay attention, 87 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: like who were the who's gonna shine in this game 88 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Friday night? That would lead to even a Super Bowl 89 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: victory either this year or next year. First of all, 90 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: that's the thing that's awesome about you is super Bowl 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: fifty four was what two years ago now almost two 92 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: years ago, and he's still going back and watching these 93 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: plays and realizing this guy made a play right here. 94 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: I remember, like two days ago you brought that up 95 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: to me. And that's what I think it's so awesome 96 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: about you. There's always plays to find when you're looking 97 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: back at film, and yeah, he definitely deserves credit for that. 98 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: But you're right, who's going to elevate this year? And 99 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: it's a big difference between doing it in practice and 100 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: doing it in a game. And I know that it's 101 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: just the preseason doesn't count, but it's still live football 102 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: against another team that doesn't know what you're doing, and 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: this is your opportunity to go out there and show 104 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: that you belong. And I asked Tyrn a few minutes ago, 105 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: what are you looking for from the young defensive players, 106 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: not in the first half, in the second half, the 107 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: guys in the third and fourth quarter that are playing 108 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: trying to prove that they belong in this league, trying 109 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: to make this team. And he said, make sure that 110 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: the world knows who you are. And that's all you 111 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: can do. Just go out there and try to make 112 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: sure the world knows who you are. Make a play, 113 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: make sure you're on your assignments, be proud of what 114 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: you put on film, and a big, big opportunity for 115 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: these guys on Saturday night. I thought it was great 116 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: that you asked him that question because one thing I 117 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: like about this team that's overlooked is when they come 118 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: out of the game. Because coach said they're gonna play 119 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: a quarter. The ones will play the first quarter, the 120 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: twos will play the second, threes, threes, and the remainder 121 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: of finish. But when our guys come out of the game, 122 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and this hasn't always been the case some of him 123 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: in the league twenty eight years. Usually guys can check out, 124 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: like I'm done for the night. I'm just say looking around, 125 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: what's going on? Our guys coach the young guys. Tyrn 126 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Matthew will coach the young guys on the field. Yeah, 127 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: and he's not the only one. And just it's something 128 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I know that you'll talk about on your sideline debut 129 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: on our Chiefs telecast coming up on Saturday night, and 130 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: of course I'm excited to have our radio broadcast too. 131 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: There's more to this game than meets the eye or 132 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: the ear. That's what we're saying. You don't have to 133 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: be a football nerd to get into preseason football, because 134 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: this is where winning teams are made. All right, Let's 135 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: jump into probably the biggest area that the Chief's Kingdom 136 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: is excited or curious about, and that is the offensive line. 137 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you can essentially have three rookies that will 138 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: start in this game and play the first quarter with 139 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: the ones with Patrick Mahomes against the good San Francisco 140 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: defensive front. They're not going to play all their guys, 141 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: but they're they're deep. Okay, Now, what about the intrigue 142 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: of those young guys in specific and even throwing Orlando 143 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: Brown junior Joe Tuoney's the veteran but rookie rookie basically 144 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: a rookie to start this game. Well, once again, we 145 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: know what they can do in practice. We've seen it. 146 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: We've seen all of those players grow throughout practice, which 147 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: is super exciting, especially a guy like Trey Smith who 148 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: was a sixth round pick and looks like he could 149 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: have been a first round pick out here. Very exciting. 150 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: But now it's about can you do that in a game? 151 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: And once again, I know it's preseason, but you're going 152 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: against the San Francisco forty nine ers and some of 153 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: their starters at least for a bit, and you have 154 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: a chance to show what you can do on tape 155 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: in a live, real football game, your first pro game 156 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: ever for these rookies, and then on a larger scale 157 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: for guys like Orlando Brown Junior. It's about the cohesion. 158 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's been the story of the offseason, right. 159 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Ten new guys added to this offensive line room that 160 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: we're not with the organization last year. So how can 161 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: everyone come together and be cohesive as a unit. And 162 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: you're playing in front of Patrick Mahomes, how can you 163 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: block for him? How can you work in your communication? 164 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Things like that, And that's what it's really all about 165 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason for these guys who were starters, guys 166 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: that we knew are going to make the team. It's 167 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: how can you figure out how things are going to 168 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: work when it's the real thing just a few weeks 169 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: later against Cleveland. So the communication, for me is the 170 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: biggest thing that we're looking for, and also learning from mistakes. 171 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: There's gonna be mistakes early on. I mean, this is 172 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: a group that's brand new together. But can you learn 173 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: from those mistakes? That's what I'll be looking for. Coach 174 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: was just talking about. I've heard communication a lot the 175 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: last forty eight hours here at training camp. Now, Matt, 176 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: people are excited about these young offensive linemen, but it 177 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: opens the door to me to one of the more 178 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: intriguing things I've been not only about this game, but 179 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: maybe in my entire twenty eight years span as a 180 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: voice of the Chiefs for preseason football. And here's why 181 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: there's four guys. Let's put the injured guys up on 182 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: the shelf, all right, Mike Rammers, LT's out four to 183 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: six weeks. Long's up there. Okay, Now, four guys, Nick Elligready, 184 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: Austin blythe you sere durant to some extent, and then 185 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiley. Of that group, they have combined to play 186 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: one hundred forty six games in the league with ninety 187 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: six starts, and three of the four have started Super 188 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: Bowls and they're the backup. Yeah, they have combined for 189 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: six thousand, eight hundred and fifty two snaps. But it's 190 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: like I've been on the varsitat, but you're going to 191 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: play the Monday night game now. I mean to me, 192 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting how they will perform and how they will 193 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: respond because I'm not sure you can keep all these guys. 194 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: You're only going to keep nine offensive lineman at the most. Yeah. Well, 195 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: that's what was so interesting for me about the offensive 196 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: line rebuild. It wasn't just about the starting five. It 197 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: was about the depth behind the starting five. And if 198 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: you look at the starting five and Week one last year, 199 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: that wasn't the same starting five, that wasn't the Super Bowl. 200 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: And it's because injuries happen. They're inevitable. They're going to 201 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: happen over the course of a long season. On paper, 202 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the starting five for the Chiefs right now is really good. 203 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: But you're going to have things happen over the course 204 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: of the year. It's a seventeen game season. You're hoping 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: to play deep into the playoffs. It's going to happen. 206 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: So the impetus is, can you have guys who can 207 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: slide into rolls who would be starters elsewhere? And you 208 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: just said it. All those guys have been starters either 209 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: year or elsewhere. Think about guy like Andrew Wiley thirty 210 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: five career starts, Nick Alagretti nine starts last season. If 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: you look at Pro Football focuses the grades, he was 212 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: a top guard on this team last year. Now he's 213 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: a death guy. Austin Blythe has missed just one game 214 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: the last three years. And then the injured guys that 215 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: you briefly mentioned, they'll be here at some point. And 216 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: you have Laurent DuVernay tardif fifty seven career starts, Mike 217 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Rimmer's eighty eight career starts, and Kyle Long seventy six 218 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: career starts. So you can count on the fact that 219 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: these guys will be available later on in the year 220 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: when you need them. If you have an injury, if 221 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: someone goes out, you can plug a guy in there 222 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: who started at some point in his career, played well 223 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: and could be a starter elsewhere. That's the beauty of 224 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: this offensive line rebuild. It's not just the first five, 225 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: it's the second five as well. But they've got a 226 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: play and they're gonna be up against some guys from 227 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers who are in that same category. 228 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: The Niners picked up some guys like Mohurst from the 229 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Raiders who'll be playing in this game at that time. 230 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: And you're gonna have varsity against varsity. I mean, it's 231 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: very intriguing in this preseason game. Again, this Defending the 232 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: Kingdom episode brought to you by three sixty Vodka. Also 233 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: we're entitling it. There's more than meets the eye and 234 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: ear in this preseason football game. Another thing to pay 235 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: attention to, and I call it the crowded room, and 236 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: that is wide receiver. All right, we know the usual suspects. 237 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: Tyree Hill got him on your fantasy team. I hope 238 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: there's DeMarcus Robinson then you can go. You've got Byron Pringle. 239 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: We talked about him earlier and how important preseason football 240 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: was in getting his career going, and McCole Hardman. But 241 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: now what you're only gonna keep six on this team. 242 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: There are thirteen on the roster, but there are four 243 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: guys in particular that I think come into play for 244 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: this game against the forty nine ers. We'll put Antonio 245 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Callaway because he's injured playing won't playing this game. But 246 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: Gary Dieter, who's been around for quite a while in 247 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: this program. Then you look at Marcus camp same he's 248 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: been a very effective performer. Maurice French you don't know about, 249 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: but he's had a very good camp up to this point. 250 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Are all guys that merit this discussion. And then rookie 251 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Cornell Powell. So four guys there that again it's like 252 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the backup whole line. Not everybody's going to make this team, 253 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: but who shows in this game against San Francisco and 254 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: who can flash? This is the one bad part about 255 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: having a really good team with a lot of talent 256 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: is that you have good players who they're just hasn't 257 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: room for him at the end of the day. But 258 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good talent in this receiver room, 259 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: like you said, and they all kind of come from 260 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: different directions, which I find interesting. Deeter and Camp are 261 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: the first two guys I want to talk about here 262 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: because while they haven't played a ton on the field 263 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: offensively for the Chiefs, they've been around more than just 264 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: about anyone, I mean, other than Tyreek Hill. And to 265 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Robinson, Garret Deeter and Marcus Camp, who joined this 266 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: team way back in two and seventeen, think about that. 267 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: They've been around this playbook, this culture, this organization for 268 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: a very long time. Also chipped in quite a bit 269 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: on special teams. Look at a couple of years ago, 270 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: Marcus Kemp at the third most special team snaps on 271 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: this team. Dave Tobe has talked about numerous times how 272 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: good he is on special teams, and now he's making 273 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: a ton of plays offensively out here in camp. And 274 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: then with Garreg, there's a reason Garreg is stuck around 275 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: all this time. It's because the coaching staff believes in him. 276 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: They trust him. He's prepared, he comes out to practice 277 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: every single day and plays good football, and they know 278 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: that if there was injuries orf they needed to count 279 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: on him, they could. And he played in four games 280 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: last year and log sixty percent of the team special 281 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: team snap, so you can count on him to go 282 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: in there and play special teams. If you're going to 283 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: be the final receiver on this roster, you have to 284 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: play special teams that contribute, so Kemp and Deeter have 285 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: both done that. Then you have other guys like Maurice French. 286 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: You mentioned him. He was a UDFA last year, on 287 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the practice squad all year last year. Now this is 288 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: your chance to show in the preseason what you can do. 289 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: He's a fun player. He was kind of a gadget, 290 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: jack of all trades kind of guy at the University 291 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh and really really solid player. He averaged eight 292 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: point seven catches per game his senior year that led 293 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: the nation. Also had ninety six grabs at pitt his 294 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: senior year that broke Larry Fitzgerald school record. So you 295 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: have guys in this camp that can do things, maybe 296 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: guys you haven't heard a lot about or seen a 297 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: lot on the field, but there's a very real chance 298 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: one of these guys can make the team. And a 299 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: couple of things French has done in this camp already. 300 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: He's made some red zone plays. We saw him play 301 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: an ad lib. Hey keep on running play and it 302 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: was one of the better plays in camp. Now sub 303 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: point under this crowded wide receiver room. Before we get 304 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to your Charles j Of this interview deals with let's 305 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: have some fun and who knows what's going to happen, 306 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: because two Kansas City high school players will be in 307 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: this game. Look for them. Number two Dalton Shone, who 308 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: walked on at Kansas State after being at Blue Valley 309 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: Northwest Husky and at k State he ended up being 310 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: one of their top receivers. He's seventh in school history 311 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: and yards per catch, and after Byron Pringle left, he 312 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: was the number one receiver, all right. Second is Darius Shepherd, 313 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: a Blue Springs wild Kat, was with the Green Bay 314 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Packers for a while, played against the Chiefs in the 315 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen preseason. He wears number nine. All right, let's 316 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: have some fun and follow these guys. Pay attention to them. 317 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: They're local high school players, but who knows. Yeah, they're 318 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: both talented enough that they could be much more than that. Well, 319 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: a couple thoughts here. First of all, it's the preseason, 320 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: so truly, you're right, who knows? You never know? We 321 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: talked about the guys at the top of the show. 322 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: That came out of nowhere to make this team. See 323 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: truly never know, but no matter what happens, what I 324 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: love about these kind of guys is that at its core, 325 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: even though this is the NFL, it's the top sports 326 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: league in the world, it's about the love of the game. 327 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: These guys love football, they love playing football, and it's 328 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: a blessing. It's a dream country to be in the 329 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: NFL at all. But for these two guys, they get 330 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: to play for their childhood team on Saturday, which I 331 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: think is just the coolest thing. And these guys grew 332 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: up watching the Chiefs, and not only do they get 333 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: a chance to plan the NFL, they get to play 334 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: for their childhood team with the arrowhead on their helmet. 335 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: And I asked Darrius Shepherd a few days ago, what's 336 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: that going to mean to you? And he said, Well, 337 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: when you're an elementary school and your teacher asked you 338 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: what do you want to be when you grew up, 339 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: you say, I want to be a football player for 340 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Both of these guys get to 341 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: do that on Saturday. Yep. And interesting here we're out 342 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: if those of you watching us, we're out here in 343 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: the sun. Do you realize that this table now is 344 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: hotter than the temperature and mercury? Yeah? Well, you know, 345 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I have my notes here and it's pieces of white paper, 346 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's like I'm tanning. Yeah, it's gonna be bad. 347 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: It's a million degrees, but hey, we're grinding through. It's 348 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: day sixteen. It's defending that King. Come on, brought to 349 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: you by three sixty Vodka and let us know how 350 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: you listen or watch to DTK. It's gonna be kind 351 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: of fun. You can send it to either one of 352 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: our Twitter sites. All right, let's transition here. You had 353 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Charles Davis, who I just 354 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I love his analysis. He's great at covering the National 355 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Football League. But we're gonna pivot here to talk about 356 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: what he thinks of this defense. Yeah, and former defensive 357 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: back obviously a start at the University of Tennessee, now 358 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: one of the voices in Madden. So when you talk 359 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: to him, you're kind of looking around, you know, wondering, 360 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: like am I in a video game? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, 361 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: it's all coming back. But yeah, awesome guy with some 362 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: great perspective. I'm playing defensive back and it was a 363 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: perfect segue into our conversation we'll have on the other 364 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: side about the unique nature of the defensive backs on 365 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: this team. All right, we're joined by one of the 366 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: best in the business talking about Charles Davis, and Charles, 367 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the versatility of this 368 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: defensive back room, because, Steven Spagnello, we really don't have 369 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: corners and safeties. We have defensive backs. These guys are 370 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: really versatile and can do a lot of different things. 371 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: You're a former defensive back. Just how important is that 372 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: versatility in this room. It's beyond important. I love the 373 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: way you phrased it. You know, we just have defensive backs. Now. 374 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: In certain situations, guys will have to assume roles, especially 375 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: on the corner because the speed element of the game 376 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: out on the perimeter. The difference of those guys running 377 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: versus those guys running down the middle of the field 378 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: is usually like the auto bond versus your regular interstate 379 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: here in the United States. But overall, you're talking about 380 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: mixing and matching. Do corners go inside and play in 381 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: the nickel in the slot, to safeties drop down in 382 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: the box? Do they play high? Do they play some 383 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: linebackers spots in certain defenses. You're exactly right. It's positionless 384 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: football that's kind of become in vogue, and it's really 385 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: important because now it gives the offense more that they 386 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: have to prepare for, and maybe it'll cut down on 387 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: what they can do against you, and it gives SPAGS 388 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: some chances to do a lot of creative things defensively. 389 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: We talk about how coach Andy Reid on offense to 390 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: so many creative things, but SPAGS is the same thing. 391 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: We see a lot of three safety looks, four safety looks, 392 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: even in some dime packages. When you're looking at those 393 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: things in practice today, what stands out to you when 394 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: other teams just can't do that. What stands out to 395 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: me is that when you have all those different safeties 396 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: and some of those guys are linebackers who look like 397 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: safeties are safeties who look like linebackers, is if you 398 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: feel comfortable that they can tackle against the run, especially 399 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: in long yard situations. Now you can really do a 400 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of those things. You're throwing a lot at the offense. 401 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: They have to interpret it, decipher it, try to work 402 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: against it. And you're also giving a lot of roles 403 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: to players, a lot of guys. If they're not playing, 404 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: they'll check out on you in the meeting room. You 405 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: know they won't be there, and then all of a sudden, 406 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: a guy gets her. Hey, you gotta Davis get in 407 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: there and play it. I haven't studied my playbook, coach, 408 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: but if he has a role throughout the season, Hey, 409 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna be in this package, You're gonna be in 410 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: that package. You're gonna be on the field on these downs. 411 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: Now they study harder, they're more prepared, and then if 412 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: something does happen, they step into the roles a little 413 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: more seamlessly. Well. Having a guy like Tyron Matthew in 414 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: a STV room certainly helps with that as well on 415 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: guys constantly in practice, yelling guys, keeping an energy level up. 416 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Last question for you, though, I want to ask about 417 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: corner and to have that versatility in those defensive packages, 418 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: you have to have corners that are willing tacklers. And 419 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: we've seen that over the years here in Kansas City, 420 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: guys like Bashad Breland, Trevarius a Ward currently on this 421 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: team with willing tackler. How important is having a willing 422 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: tackler at corner and when you want to play these 423 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: different kinds of defensive looks. It is beyond important because 424 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: as much as the game is about throwing it down fields, 425 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: and that's what we talk about in the NFL and 426 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: that's why Patrick Mahomes is a star because he does 427 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: it so well. Also, the ability to run the football, 428 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: control the clock, beat some people up, and you're gonna 429 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: have to go against that. So having co owners who 430 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: are willing tacklers. Think about your own division. All right, 431 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders are going to come at you with Josh 432 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: Jacobs and now Kenyan Drake is there. You're going to 433 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: look at Denver. They just they just invested in a 434 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: second round pick in Javonte Williams out of North Carolina. 435 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon is already there. Look at the top contenders 436 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: in the AFC. Cleveland runs the heck out of the football. Tennessee. 437 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we know Derrick Henry is coming. So when 438 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: you look at it in total, you have to have 439 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: those corners. They can't just go out there and run 440 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: down field with people. If they're willing to tackle them, 441 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: be the first line of defense on the corner and 442 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: on the perimeter. That just makes your defense out much 443 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: more stout worst case. You can still see that, right, Yeah, 444 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: but if I do, I'm gonna call some people their jobs. 445 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: Not a coach out there's funny I talk with coach 446 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: of David Merritt the but he go, come on, give 447 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 1: me a couple of reps of the coach. I'll get 448 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: you fired. He said that, kids, you stay right over there. 449 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Arles, you take care. Love that interview. Love him. 450 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: But he talked about positionless football. I see it more 451 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: and more, not only out here, but throughout the league. 452 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: We just we gotta be reluctant to pigeonhole guys into 453 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: this guy's a d or linebacker, safety or corner. Sometimes 454 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: it's all blended together like a really nice stew I 455 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: keep putting my hands on here, and I burned my 456 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 1: hands every time it so I keep pulling him up. 457 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: But you're one hundred percent Right's positionist football, and it's 458 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: a It's a beautiful thing with this defense because Steve 459 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Spagnolo can, like we talked about in the interview, truly 460 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: take advantage of the versatile nature of this group because 461 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: they can play so many different positions. Think of all 462 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: the different things Tyrn Matthew does for example, he plays 463 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: in the slot, he can play free safety, he can 464 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: play in the box, play in the line of scrimmage. 465 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: He can play outside corner if you need him to. 466 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: Lagerius Sneed is the same way he played safety his 467 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: senior year at college just because Louisiana Tech needed him 468 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: to play safety, and then no big deal. He can 469 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: come in this year after a great rookie year last 470 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: year and not just play outside corner, but also slot 471 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: corner in a nickel. So when you have guys that 472 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: can do a whole bunch of different things, it just 473 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: opens up what you can do in your toolbox if 474 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: you're Steve Spagnolo, and really, at the end of the day, 475 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: this group is athletic. That's what they are. They are athletic. 476 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: They are athletes, and it's defensive back room and they 477 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: can do a ton of different things for you. And 478 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: that's just not the case or on the league. We're 479 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: kind of spoiled with it. And we're going to close 480 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: this way and talk about the corner store. I mean, 481 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: think about it. The corner store. You gotta have it, 482 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: whether you know you just gotta run and get bread 483 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: and milk or whatever. You gotta run there and quickly 484 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: and get it done. So the corner store here to 485 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: me in this game, why this game is more than 486 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: meets the eye in air, and why you just can't 487 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: just oh, gush, it's preseason football. Let me know when 488 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: I can play fantasy football. Now. You need to pay 489 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: attention to this game because there's four corners that I 490 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: have under my eye, and that is when you look 491 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: at Mike Hughes, who right now is a starting corner, 492 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and when the Chiefs are and Nickel, you look at 493 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Rashad Fenton who's been good for this team, DeAndre Baker, 494 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: and then also Bopee Keys who went up the hill 495 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and injured on Thursday, so I'm not sure his status 496 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday data field play. And then I 497 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: got named Devin Key, who kind of fits what we're 498 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: talking about, like what is he? He's out there and 499 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: he where's number twenty four? But these are all guys 500 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: to watch to me on Saturday night because it becomes 501 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: very important as it perchanged to the twenty twenty one season. Sure, 502 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: and what a Brett Beach special the duo of Mike 503 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Cues and DeAndre Baker is because you have two guys 504 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: each of which was taken with a number thirty overall 505 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: pick in twenty eighteen and in twenty nineteen. These are 506 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: two players that have played before, they've shown that they 507 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: could play at this level. They were highly tied of 508 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: prospects for a reason. And in the case of Hughes, 509 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: here's a guy who was really good in Minnesota, just injuries. 510 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: He couldn't stay healthy on the field. It was freak injuries, 511 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: things with his neck and also at torn acl And 512 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: now he has a fresh start here in Kansas City 513 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: and since OTAs we've been watching him wondering how does 514 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: he kind of mix into things, because the Chiefs traded 515 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: for him in the spring and he's looked pretty good. 516 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw some plays today. Made a great 517 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: play in coverage against Tyreek Hill in the end zone. 518 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: It was a red zone route that Tyreek makes look 519 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: easy on a regular basis, and Hughes stayed with him, 520 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: made a play on the ball, had an interception later 521 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: on in seven on seven as well. So I'll be 522 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: watching Mike Cues in the preseason and you want to 523 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: see what happens when he's actually out there on the 524 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: field in a live game. And also Rashad Finn what 525 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: can he show now entering this year with the Chiefs. 526 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: He's had limited snaps during his career, but when he's 527 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: been out there, he's been really good. He's shown that 528 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: he can play on this team. So it's a great 529 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: opportunity for these guys. If you're looking at the nickel package, 530 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: who can be that other outside corner like you mentioned 531 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: opposite Trevarius Ward. You have Lagarius Need in the slot, 532 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: probably the best slot corner in football this year if 533 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: we're being honest. Trevarious Ward incredible to say this, but 534 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: he has the most experience of all the corners in 535 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: this room. So who can be that other guy? And 536 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: that's what this preseason will be all about. And right 537 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: now Mike Hughes might have the inside track at that 538 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: looking really good, but the preseason will tell the story 539 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: of that later on. Rashad Fenton's kind of your ben 540 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: niem into that cornerback room. Yeah, all right, as we close, 541 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are gamers or you 542 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: want to design video games, you can design a new 543 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: video game called Surviving Defending the Kingdom on a table 544 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: surface that is two hundred and seventy five degrees. What 545 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: a great video game. It'll be touch, touch, It'll be great. 546 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: He's Matt McMullin again. Let us know how you listen 547 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: or watch Defending the Kingdom and how you can survive 548 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: you know this heat. Anyway, we look forward to this 549 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: game on Saturday night. There is more than meets the 550 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: eye or ear play attention to this game. It may 551 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: be more important than you think. Toss down, walt it down, 552 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: and the celebration begins to their head