1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: Karen, we are seeing stabilization in the markets this morning, 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: but it follows another selloff on Wall Street. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 4: The numbers are not pretty. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: Tech stocks experienced their biggest one day plunge since twenty 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 3: twenty two, erasing one point one trillion dollars in market value. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Let's get the very latest with Bloomberg's John Tucker, John 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: and Nathan. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 5: Monday's market plunge came as the Trump administration warrens of 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 5: a period of transition and detox for the economy. Economist 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 5: Denis Gartman sees it this way. 14 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 6: I think that the economy, no question is going into recession. 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 5: The Nasdaq one hundred index plunge three point eight percent. 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: Amy wou Silverman at RBC is waiting for the other 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 5: shoe to drop. Are we going to get to that 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 5: second tier of fear? The Nasdaq one hundred down twelve 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 5: point four percent from its market high. That's a correction. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 5: The S and P five hundred flirting with correction, down 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 5: to eight point six percent from its record, said only 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: last month. Max Wasserman at Mira Mark Capital says investors 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 5: are still trying to gauge the impact of the Trump 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 5: trade war. 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 4: In the meantime an uncertainty. 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: Who wants to pay thirty forty times for these tech 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: earnings right now? 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 5: The Bloomberg Magnificent seven Index, an equal weighted gauge of 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 5: the biggest US tech stocks, tumbled five point four percent 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: to bring its round from a December record to more 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 5: than twenty percent. Tesla alone tumbled fifteen percent, widening its 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 5: lost this year to forty five percent, while Nvidia lost 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 5: five point one percent. That has to raised more than 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: one trillion dollars in market value in just two months. 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: The unpredictable terror policies also spurring risk aversion Government bonds 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: globally their rallying as bents on US exceptionalism start to fade. 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 5: In New York On John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you. What we are seeing the 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: fallout from the recent US stock selloff. City Group is 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: downgrading its view on US equities while upgrading China to overweight, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: citing attractive valuations, government support for the tech sector, and 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: a technology breakthrough that divergence in outlook between the US 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: and China is growing, with Chinese equities performing well this 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: year while US equities have lost four and a half 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: percent so far this year. Well, Nathan. When Donald Trump 46 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: took office on January twenty if, he was flanked by 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: some of the wealthiest people. Now new figures from Bloomberg's 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Billionaire's Index show five of those billionaires have lost to 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: combine two hundred and nine billion dollars in wealth since 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: inauguration day. Elon Musk has been hit the hardest, losing 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: some one hundred and forty eight billion. Amazon founder Jeff 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Bezos is down twenty nine billion. Google co founder Sergei 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: Brinn is worse off by twenty two billion, while Mark 54 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: Zuckerberg and LVMH boss Bernard Arnault are both down five billion. 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: Dollars and those losses Kring Coum is is it in. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: Trump gets ready to meet today with the country's top 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: business leaders. Mary Nichol is a Bloomberg Markets Live strategist. 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 7: He needs to highlight his pro growth policies heading into 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 7: the Trump administration and after he won. Businesses were actually 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 7: quite optimistic about the future given deregulation and what some 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 7: of his policies would be that would be favorable to businesses. 62 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: But businesses are now worried. 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 7: They're now worried about the outlook of the economy, they're 64 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 7: worried about tariff. So he'll need to address these recession 65 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 7: concerns and that his plans will be more limited. And 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 7: it really is a short lived adjustment period, because otherwise 67 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 7: you could see this spiral into something even bigger and 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 7: deeper losses for the markets. 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Mary Nichola notes that President Trump will meet today 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: with the Washington based Business Roundtable. Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: chairs the organization, JP Morgan Chases, Jamie Diamond, and City 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Groups Jane Fraser among the bank leaders on the round 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: tables board of directors. 74 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Nathan, Now, let's get to the latest on the war 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. In Russia says it shot down three hundred 76 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: and thirty seven Ukrainian drones overnight, including seventy four aimed 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: at the capital Moscow. It appears to be the largest 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: attack on Russian territory in the three year war, and 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: it comes as Ukrainian officials meet with the US and 80 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia to discuss ways to end the conflict again. 81 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: Those talks are underway right now, but Bloomberg's Greg Sullivan 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: reports the US is downplaying anything major coming out of 83 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: this meeting. 84 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 8: We saw a Secretary of State Marco Rubio come out 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 8: and say, look, look, we're not looking for a major 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 8: breakthrough here. The US is basically in a position where 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 8: it's listening, trying to see what's possible, especially in terms 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 8: of concessions. He did say that he expects concessions from 89 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 8: both sides, and that could include territorial concessions from Ukraine, 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 8: which will be quite hard for them to swallow. 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: And as President Trump pushes for a ceasefire, Bloomberg's Greg 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: Sullivan reports he's sending Middle East Envoy Steve Wikoff to 93 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: Moscow this week to meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin Karen. 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: Talks between the US and China on trade maybe getting stuck, 95 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: sources tell Bloomberg News discussions are bogged down at lower levels, 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: with both sides talking past each other on how to proceed. 97 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: Officials in Beijing say the US has not given detailed 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: steps on what it needs to do about fentanyl to 99 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: have tariffs lift it. President Trump's team says it has 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: been clear that it wants China to stop sending precursor 101 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: chemicals to Mexico, to give smugglers the death penalty, and 102 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: to run a front page article in the People's Daily 103 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: newspaper condemning the fentanyl trade. 104 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: Well in Washington, Nathan, a stop gap funding bill, or 105 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: clean cr looks likely to pass Congress today and avert 106 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: of government shutdown on Friday. Bloombergs Amy Morris has the 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: details from Washington. 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 9: The Republicans spending bill is designed to keep government agencies 109 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 9: open through September thirtieth. Representative Don Byer, a Democrat from Virginia, 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 9: talked about the options and the worries that the President 111 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 9: will unilaterally delay or cancel appropriations called impoundment. 112 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: Unless there are meaningful guardrails to keep Trump from impounding it. 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: We should vote note in the Democrats in the Senate 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: and hope with some Republicans of the center. 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 9: Virginia Democratic Representative Don Byer on Bloomberg's balance of power. 116 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 9: House Republicans could pass this on their own if they 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 9: get enough votes from their own caucus, but even after 118 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 9: it passes the House, it still has to get through 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 9: the Senate. In Washington, Amy Moore as Bloomberg Radio. 120 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: Amy thank you. 121 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: A federal judges rule elon Musk's Government Efficiency Project must 122 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: comply with records demands from a public interest group. The 123 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: ruling rejects the Trump administration's position that the office created 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: by the president is exempt from US transparency law. The 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: decision would mean the Department of Government Efficiency is required 126 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: to disclose emails, memos, notes, and other internal records about 127 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: its operations, staff, and structure. 128 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Well. 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Speaking of Musk, as mentioned earlier Nathan, his personal wealth 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 2: has taken a big hit recently. In fact, with yesterday's 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: fifteen percent decline, Tesla's shares have lost more than half 132 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: of their value since mid December. This morning, Musk is 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: getting some support from Donald Trump. The President says that 134 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: he will buy a new Tesla as a show of 135 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: confidence and support for the CEO. Musk, who is now 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: the face of the president's efforts to cut the size 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: of the US government, responded with a simple thank you 138 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: on x and shares a Tesla there hire this morning 139 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: at more than four and a half percent. 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: As for some other stocks on the move this morning, 141 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 3: Karen worsh watching shares of Oracle. 142 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: They are down almost two percent. 143 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: The company reported disappointing quarterly results and gave a sales 144 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: and profit forecast for the current quarter that fell short 145 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: of analyst estimates. 146 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: Shares A Delta are down almost ten percent. The airline 147 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: cut its profit expectations for the first quarter roughly by 148 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: half on weakening travel demand. The carrier also said economic 149 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: volatility and concerns of our flight safety have weighed on 150 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: the US industry in recent weeks. But it's time now 151 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: for a look at some of the other stories making 152 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: news in New York and around the world. And for 153 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 154 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 10: Good Morning caaren. A federal judge has temporarily blocked the 155 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 10: deportation of Mackmood Khalil, the pro Palestinian activists and Columbia 156 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 10: University graduate, was arrested by ICE agents over the weekend. 157 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 10: He helped organize last year's pro Palestinian protests on the 158 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 10: Columbia campus. Meanwhile, hundreds demonstrated in Lower Manhattan Monday to 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 10: protest Khalil's arrest. Demonstrators say the arrest violates free speech 160 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 10: rights and is unconstitutional. At a press conference, Professor Unan 161 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 10: Cohen of Columbia Center's Jewish and Israel Studies compared Khalil's 162 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 10: arrest to tactics used to detain Palestinians in Gaza. As 163 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 10: an Israeli American, I'm extremely troubled that such practices have 164 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 10: been important to the United States and manifests themselves on 165 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 10: our campus. Meanwhile, President Trump said the arrest was in 166 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 10: furtherance of his policies against anti Semitism. Israeli negotiators are 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 10: in Cutter and restarting talks with Moss on what phase 168 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 10: two of the ceasefire agreement will look like. Eighty Alexander 169 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 10: says his son Eden is still being held in Gaza 170 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 10: and hopes the negotiators will come to a consensus. 171 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 11: We have to be back into the Surboggan and table 172 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 11: and keep talking and get everybody out as soon as possible. 173 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 10: It comes as Israel has cut off electricity to Gaza. 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 10: Police in Montvale, New Jersey, are investigating a bus crash 175 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 10: on the Garden State Parkway that left several children injured, 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 10: including one in critical condition. Official say thirty one people 177 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 10: were on board. The bus was heading to New York 178 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 10: State when it flipped last evening global news twenty four 179 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 10: hours a day and whenever you want it with the 180 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 10: Bloomberg News. 181 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: Now, I'm Michael Barr, and this is Bloomberg Karen. 182 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you. It's time now for 183 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Sports out Date, brought to you by Tri 184 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: State Houdie. 185 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 6: Here's John Stanshawer. 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: John, good morning, Good morning. 187 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 12: Care of the Yankees hopes for a second straight American 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 12: League Pettant Delta severe blow. Garrett Cole will spend today 189 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 12: having season ending Tommy John elbow surgery. He was on 190 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 12: the vand last week in Tampa didn't go well, gave 191 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 12: up two home runs. He had an MRI, then got 192 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 12: a second opinion. Now wi see Cole in a Yankee 193 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 12: uniform until sometime in the summer of twenty twenty six. 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 12: The Jets having new quarterback. It's twenty six year old 195 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 12: Justin Field. Spent three years in Chicago. This past season 196 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 12: with Pittsburgh Steelers wanted him back. He chose instead to 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 12: throw passes to his former Ohio State teammate, Garrett Wilson. 198 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 12: It may end up being a swap of quarterbacks with 199 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 12: the Jets. Fields is replacing Aaron Rodgers word as Rogers 200 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 12: could be closestunting with the Steelers. Sam Darnold cashed in 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 12: on his breakout season in Minnesota, three year, one hundred 202 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 12: million dollars deal to play QB in Seattle. 203 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 4: The Giants still the end of quarterback. 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Karen Lincoln. 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio nationwide on Sirius XAM 219 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot com and the 220 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 221 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: Good morning. 222 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager, and we are seeing futures bounce back 223 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: this morning from one of the biggest multi day selloffs 224 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: on Wall Street in years. The SMP five hundred just 225 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: yesterday fell two point seven percent, nearing a correction. The 226 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: tech heavy Nasdaq is already there, and many analysts are 227 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: readjusting their bullish views, with tariffs and government spending cuts 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: adding to fears that the US could be headed for 229 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: an economic slowdown. Joining us this morning is Baired investment 230 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: strategist Ross Mayfield. 231 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: Ross, Good morning. Are you changing your view on this economy? 232 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you have to a little bit. Right. 233 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 6: You come in with and then you take a look 234 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 6: at what's actually occurring, and you have to readjust the bit. 235 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 6: I wouldn't say that we're in the recession camp yet, 236 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 6: but I think an economic slowdown is likely, if only 237 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 6: because you know, we're at the middle of the late 238 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 6: point of the cycle and the Trump administration is clearly 239 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 6: more bite than bark when it comes to the tariffs. 240 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 6: So far, so you kind of have to readjust your 241 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 6: priors for what growth could be. 242 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: Now, what do you make of the selloff that we've 243 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: seen over the last few days, this eight point six 244 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: percent plunge in the S and P five hundred in 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,119 Speaker 3: just the last few days. 246 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the first obvious thing is 247 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 6: to look at the economic growth scare, the potential for 248 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 6: tariffs and broader and wider tariffs and previously we're expected, 249 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 6: and then also look at well, you know, the set 250 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: has the dry powder to come to the rescue, but 251 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 6: are they going to be willing to if they think 252 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 6: tariffs are inflationary? So all that makes sense, but then 253 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 6: you have to look at the driver of the selloff 254 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 6: and look to the mag seven and kind of wonder 255 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: how big Tech is caught up in any of that. 256 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 6: I mean, they're largely economic growth agnostic, they're not particularly 257 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 6: tariff sensitive, So what's driving that? I mean, you could 258 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: say valuation, You could take a look at the Japanese 259 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 6: yen and see the rise there, and look at the 260 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: carry trades all off we saw last August, But the 261 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 6: reality is it's probably just a combination of all the above. 262 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 6: A bad moment for markets. But a healthy correction that's 263 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 6: going to reset sentiment a bit as well. 264 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Does that point to a buying opportunity for the tech 265 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: stocks that had been fueling the rally for so long? 266 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 6: I think it totally depends on time frame. I mean, 267 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 6: technically they look pretty broken, or at least most of 268 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: them do. But over a one plus year time horising, yeah, 269 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 6: would I would still be adding to secular growth themes 270 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 6: like AI. I think if we're hitting a period where 271 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 6: US economic growth is coming back to trend and we're 272 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 6: still in this higher for longer rate environment, I want 273 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: to be buying the high quality companies that are still 274 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 6: bringing their own kind of growth themes to the table. 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 6: I still very much think AI is one of those. 276 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 6: Over the next half decade decade plus, you just have 277 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: to have the time horising to ride out what could 278 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 6: be more weakness in the near term. 279 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: Talking about timing, we heard from Kevin Hassett over at 280 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 3: the White House saying that he expected a negative first 281 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: quarter with tariffs and President Biden's policies, but he says 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: the second quarter is going to take off with tax cuts. 283 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 4: Should investors be pricing that in? 284 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 6: You know, I do think that the potential for tax 285 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: cuts has been pushed to the back burner. You know, 286 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 6: the first Trump administration, this this calculus was reversed. We 287 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 6: got the tax cuts. In twenty seventeen, markets had one 288 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 6: of the best and kind of calm mist years in 289 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 6: recent memory, and then twenty eighteen was very valid on 290 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 6: the back of the trade war. I mean, look, if 291 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: we got to the second quarter and a lot of 292 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 6: the trade and tariff policy was at very least settled, right, 293 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: I do even think that most companies would be fine 294 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: with tariffs or you know, some level of import duty 295 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 6: if they just knew the rules of the game and 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 6: then could move on to focus on the things about 297 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: the Trump administration that they liked so so much in 298 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: the you know, immediate post election euphoria, which was deregular, 299 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 6: the potential for tax cuts, lower energy prices. So if 300 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 6: we could just get some tear of certainty and move 301 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 6: on to the second quarter, I think the market would 302 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: welcome that for sure. 303 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: In our last thirty seconds, really interesting call from City 304 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: Group downgrading US stocks raising China to overweight. 305 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: Is that the right call? 306 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 6: I mean, that's certainly the momentum trade right now, You've 307 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 6: got a lot of momentum behind Europe and China, and 308 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: you're losing momentum in the US. But I still think 309 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 6: over a one plus your time horison. 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