WEBVTT - Drake, RICO, and a Messy New Year

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a homegirwl that knows a little bit about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody, you know, if you don't lie about that. Right, Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Lauren Rosa and this is the latest with Lauren

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<v Speaker 3>and Rosa. This is your Deli dig on all things

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<v Speaker 3>pop culture, entertainment, news and all of the conversations that

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<v Speaker 3>shake the room. So this is episode two from Ghana,

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<v Speaker 3>not Day two. I've been here for some days with

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<v Speaker 3>This is the second episode where I'm speaking to you

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<v Speaker 3>guys from the Motherland, and we had a great night

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<v Speaker 3>last night behind the scenes of the Grind. If I'm

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<v Speaker 3>checking in, New Year's Eve came in amazing. Twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six is going to be a great year, and we

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<v Speaker 3>kicked it off with some really great energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you guys in our.

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<v Speaker 3>Last episode, please go take a listen to our end

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<v Speaker 3>of the year recap episode one if you haven't already.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you guys in that episode that we were

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<v Speaker 3>headed to a mountain area with Bozma Saint John of

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<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and her feetyonce Keeley, who

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<v Speaker 3>we talked a lot about on the Breakfast Club, and

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<v Speaker 3>she talks a lot about him on the show as

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<v Speaker 3>well too. But we got a chance to meet her

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<v Speaker 3>family and just you know, some amazing people here in

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<v Speaker 3>Ghana where she is from, and partake in dinner and

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<v Speaker 3>fireworks as the new year came in. She gave like

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing toast before we started the dinner, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Great way to kick off No matter of.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact, we're not gonna kick off that episode with it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think it's very uplifting, very positive, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>how I'm feeling behind the scenes to the grind. But

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<v Speaker 3>we do got some news we got to get to

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<v Speaker 3>that's breaking, So let's do that first, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>end the episode with Bosma and maybe a little recap,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little rewind, and throw it back to another

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<v Speaker 3>one of our top ten episodes from twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>as we move forward into twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Now breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>I just actually reported on this story via x If

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<v Speaker 3>you guys, of course want to follow me on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Lauren L. Rosa everywhere that's r E N l

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<v Speaker 3>O R O s A.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was a document it's actually twenty two pages long.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a federal civil rico that was filed on

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<v Speaker 3>New Year's Eve, so not everybody's twenty twenty six is

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<v Speaker 3>coming in as amazing as mine did.

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<v Speaker 2>Against Drake Steak, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>The online gambling platform Aiden Ross, who is a streamer,

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<v Speaker 3>and a guy named George.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy named George Nuegen. I'm probably saying his name

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<v Speaker 2>wrong because y'all know I'm hord what names.

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<v Speaker 3>But this class action Federal RICO is filed by two

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<v Speaker 3>women out of Virginia, out of Alexandria, Virginia, who are

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<v Speaker 3>alleging that Drake and others the other people named are

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<v Speaker 3>using the tipping feature on the Steak website. First of all,

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<v Speaker 3>they say Steak is just a bunch of bs anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they alleged. And they alleged that because they

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<v Speaker 3>feel as though it's not fair that someone like a

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<v Speaker 3>Drake or an Aiden Ross can be given basically house

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<v Speaker 3>money to then use to make money on the app,

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<v Speaker 3>making it seem like they're gambling their actual money and

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<v Speaker 3>winning money. And you know, but realistically, according to this lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 3>in others file like this, this is not the first

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<v Speaker 3>lawsuit claiming that specifically it's not fair because if what

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<v Speaker 3>these consumers are alleging is happening, You're really not missing

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<v Speaker 3>out on much because you're not gambling your own money

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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning. So that's one part of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>even bigger in this lawsuit, specifically, in this class action

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<v Speaker 3>Federal Rico specifically, there are two plaintifs who say that

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<v Speaker 3>Drake used a tipping feature to be able to transfer

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<v Speaker 3>money as money was being made on this gambling website

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<v Speaker 3>between him and other people mentioned in the lawsuit, which

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<v Speaker 3>that money was then used to That money was then

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<v Speaker 3>used to fund various things that helped to artificially inflate

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<v Speaker 3>his streaming numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>So it goes into a lot of detail.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's exactly how the Here's exactly how the lawsuit reads.

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<v Speaker 3>In addition, through stakes tipping function, defendants that's Drake, Aiden Raws,

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<v Speaker 3>and the George Nuigian Guide have financed their combined artificial

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<v Speaker 3>streaming boding to create fraudulent streams of Drake's music, fabricate popularity,

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<v Speaker 3>disparage competitors and music label executives, distort recommendation algorithms, and

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<v Speaker 3>distribute financing for all the foregoing while concealing the flow

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<v Speaker 3>of funds. The filing continues to allege that at the

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<v Speaker 3>heart of the scheme, Drake, acting directly and through willing

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<v Speaker 3>and knowledgeable co conspirators, has deployed automated bots and streaming

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<v Speaker 3>forums to artificially inflate play counts of his music across

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<v Speaker 3>major platforms such as Spotify. These and authentic stremes, according

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<v Speaker 3>to this lawsuit, injected via interstate digital pathways were calibrated

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<v Speaker 3>to mislead royalty and recommendation engines manufactured popularity. So basically,

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<v Speaker 3>everything that he accused Kendrick Lamar of doing, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>everything he accused Universal Music Group of doing for Kendrick

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar is not like us. There are these two women

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<v Speaker 3>who are saying not only is who are alleging that

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<v Speaker 3>not only a stake bs to consumers because you have

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<v Speaker 3>these influencers and these big celebrities who are using money

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't even theirs to then gamble and make money

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<v Speaker 3>and encourage you to come and do it. But on

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<v Speaker 3>top of that, there's money being transferred within that app

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<v Speaker 3>which is encrypted, and it's you know, encrypted in a

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<v Speaker 3>way where it's not knowledgeable to people that are not inside,

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's an inside trader situation where they're able to

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<v Speaker 3>transfer money between each other, which is disclosed. Those transfers

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<v Speaker 3>are then used to set up these botforms and all

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<v Speaker 3>these like you know, machines and engines to then inflate

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<v Speaker 3>numbers according to them, and allegedly of Drake's music. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not the first class action lawsuit against Drake

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<v Speaker 3>and Steak and you know claiming these things on the

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<v Speaker 3>gambling side, but the claims of the bodying and the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, fabricated streams and using Steak as basically like

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<v Speaker 3>a front to be able to do that, to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to hide the money that you're using to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the first of that nature. So there will

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<v Speaker 3>be more on that for sure. I'll be back with

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<v Speaker 3>more again if you guys want more news while I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hearing Ghana, because you know, I'm ripping and running, bringing

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<v Speaker 3>you guys as much as I can. Make sure you're

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<v Speaker 3>also following me on social laur and the Rosa everywhere. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get back to a positive twenty twenty six for

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<v Speaker 3>somebody for me. Okay, shout out to you know Drake's team,

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<v Speaker 3>though I did reach out to his rep and they

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<v Speaker 3>have no statement as of now, but they said that

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<v Speaker 3>if anything was to come, they would let me know.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully the boys having a good New Year. Let's bring

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<v Speaker 3>it on back over to Ghana. Bozman Saint John before

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<v Speaker 3>we kicked off our New Year's Eve dinner and before

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<v Speaker 3>the fireworks happened here in Ghana, she gave an amazing speech.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just about the table that she brought together to.

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<v Speaker 3>Bring into the year and why it was so important

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<v Speaker 3>for her and has been for years now, since the

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<v Speaker 3>first year of the Big Return, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>you guys will remember. I know Essence covered it like amazingly.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the first time I'd ever heard of people

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<v Speaker 3>coming over to Ghana for the holiday that weren't actually

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<v Speaker 3>from Ghana. But let's say a listen to Bozma and

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you guys are still enjoying your New Year.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be back tomorrow with another episode somewhere good rewinds.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell y'all every episode, you guys could be anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>with anybody talking about all these things, which y'all choose

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<v Speaker 3>to be right here with me. And I appreciate you, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>My low Riders. Check you guys tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, y'all, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura La Rosa the latest with Laura le Rosea and today,

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<v Speaker 3>as you guys see, I'm not outside of the court room.

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<v Speaker 3>I am actually in the back of an suv because

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<v Speaker 3>I left court trying to make my flight. But y'all

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<v Speaker 3>know I am here to give y'all the latest because

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<v Speaker 3>I had to get this update in. You know, your

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<v Speaker 3>girl love to take y'all a court, lot to take

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<v Speaker 3>y'all a court.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kid Cutty took the stand today.

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<v Speaker 3>As I've told you guys that they mentioned in court

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday the testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be sure and it was very much that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very to the point of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Alleged arson, a bit of background about the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And then boomed moved on.

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<v Speaker 3>So Kid Cutty took the stand as the prosecution as

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<v Speaker 3>one of the prosecution's witnesses, and began to testify about

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<v Speaker 3>an incident that he claims went down with him, Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>and Cassie.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>He took the stand around ten forty am finished not

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<v Speaker 3>too long after that. He says that he met Cassie

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<v Speaker 3>some years back at an event in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>They dated briefly in twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>He says that he was aware that she was dating Diddy, however,

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<v Speaker 3>well previous to him, because he says, look, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>she was dating him before, but when you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>linked up, she said that that was over, that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Done with, so he thought that it was all go.

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<v Speaker 3>So then the prosecutors asked him about an incident that

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<v Speaker 3>took place at his home December twenty eleven where a

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<v Speaker 3>police had to be called to his home and they

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<v Speaker 3>asked him what was the incident. He says, someone broke

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<v Speaker 3>into my house. Now, we have heard about this alleged

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<v Speaker 3>arsonn incident for a very long time through civil lawsuits,

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<v Speaker 3>through the indictments, but this was the first time me

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<v Speaker 3>hearing this was the first time I heard about the

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<v Speaker 3>home breaking, the alleged home breaking that he is also

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<v Speaker 3>trying to connect to Diddy. So he says that somebody

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<v Speaker 3>broke into his home, so police sad to be called

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<v Speaker 3>to his house. He said he got a phone call

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<v Speaker 3>at like five or six am from Cassie and she was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, very upset, and he could tell her she

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<v Speaker 3>was very shaken, so he didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But as they're on the phone, he says that Cassie

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<v Speaker 3>says to him that Diddy had allegedly found out about them,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, I was confused because at that point

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<v Speaker 3>I really thought that she was no longer dealing with Diddy.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he said that, I already knew where this

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<v Speaker 3>was going because of how scared she sounded on the phone,

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<v Speaker 3>especially because she was mentioning too that like Diddy had

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<v Speaker 3>said that he was going to go to Kid Cutty's

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<v Speaker 3>house and all these things. Allegedly, he was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to go pick her up and make

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<v Speaker 3>sure she was safe. Specifically, he said that she sounded stressed, nervous,

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<v Speaker 3>and scared, so he says he went and picked her up.

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<v Speaker 3>He took her to the Sunset Marque. The prosecutors asked him, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well why did you go to the Sunset Marquee. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, you know, no reason, but the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>that's just a hotel that I used to frequent.

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<v Speaker 1>In LA And they're like, well, why did you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a hotel?

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, well, I took her to a hotel

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<v Speaker 3>because I figured that.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be safe, and they're like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean that would be safe?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said that. He alleged that Cassie explained that did.

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<v Speaker 3>He was really really upset that did he plan to

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<v Speaker 3>go to his home? And he had already known the

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<v Speaker 3>background info, or some background info of the domestic violence

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<v Speaker 3>that Cassie was experiencing, because he says Cassie had actually

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<v Speaker 3>come out and told him that Diddy would get physical

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<v Speaker 3>with her. So he was like, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>just nervous for her. So he got her.

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<v Speaker 1>To the Sunset Marquee.

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<v Speaker 3>They introduced Capricorn Clark again, who has been coming up

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<v Speaker 3>in court almost every single day at this point, and

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<v Speaker 3>Kid Cutting. So they asked Kit Cutty who was Capricorn Clark.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's like, oh, that was a friend of Cassie's.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they show a photo to him to identify her.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, okay, is this Capricorn Clark? Like yes, so

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<v Speaker 3>they bring the photo up, they show the drawers and

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<v Speaker 3>all of us the photo. So he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they would all hang out a lot because she was

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<v Speaker 3>a good friend of Cassie's. So the day that all

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<v Speaker 3>of this happened, Capricorn Clark in him ended up on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone. Capricorn Clark and Cutty ended up on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>The prosecutors asked him like okay, Well, normally when you

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<v Speaker 3>talk to Capricorn Clark, how was it? He was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>normally it's on speakerphone. And she was like, but what's

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<v Speaker 3>her like demeanor? He was like, you know, normally, like

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<v Speaker 3>just regular, like she's on speakerphone. You know, me and

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<v Speaker 3>her and Cassie are talking and they say the night

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<v Speaker 3>the day that all of this happened, that did he

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<v Speaker 3>found out about all this stuff? And you know the

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<v Speaker 3>alleged breaking and cops coming into your home. Then that

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<v Speaker 3>time when all of this happened, how did her demeanor sound?

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<v Speaker 3>And he said that she entered the phone and she

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<v Speaker 3>and Capricorn Clark allegedly sounded very scared. He described it

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<v Speaker 3>as Capricorn Clark being on the verge of tears. He

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<v Speaker 3>says that while she was on the phone, Capricorn Clark

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<v Speaker 3>told Old kit Cutty that she was allegedly forced to

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<v Speaker 3>go with Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>She was forced into a.

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<v Speaker 3>Car to go with Diddy to kit Cutty's house, and

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<v Speaker 3>that Diddy was going to be at his house when

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<v Speaker 3>he arrived there, our secutor said asked kit Cutty, like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>how did did.

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<v Speaker 1>He even know where to go?

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<v Speaker 3>How did he know where your house was at in

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, Cassie gave him my address. So, he

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<v Speaker 3>says after he talked to Capricorn Clark, he then got

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<v Speaker 3>in the car and went to his house like he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't duck in no smoke. He got in the car

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<v Speaker 3>went to his house. While he's driving, he says he

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<v Speaker 3>had Diddy's number and he called Diddy. Allegedly he said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna be candid. I said, hey, motherfucker, you at

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<v Speaker 3>my house and Diddy said, I just want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you. And kit Cutty said, wal I'm on my

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<v Speaker 3>way right now, and Diddy said, okay, I'm here waiting

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<v Speaker 3>on you. Allegedly, so Diddy, he says, his voice was

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<v Speaker 3>calm the whole time on the phone. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>very calm demeanor, and kit Cutty was telling the prosecutors like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because they asked him like did you have

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<v Speaker 3>cameras out front of your house?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I did have cameras.

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<v Speaker 3>But he alleges that when he got to his home,

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<v Speaker 3>he realized that the cameras had been They normally angled

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<v Speaker 3>down to the door, to the front door, and he

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<v Speaker 3>realized that when he got to his house, the cameras

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<v Speaker 3>were angling away from the door, so they didn't capture

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<v Speaker 3>anything Quickarly, he was a legend that this was done

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<v Speaker 3>because of whoever went into his home, and he alleges

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<v Speaker 3>that Diddy was who went into his home. So he

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<v Speaker 3>said when he got into his home, there were like

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<v Speaker 3>some gifts that he had brought for his family from Chanel,

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<v Speaker 3>so that stuff was opened. He said that his dog

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<v Speaker 3>was allegedly locked up in a bathroom and that was

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<v Speaker 3>weird because he normally lets his dog roam all over

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<v Speaker 3>the house, like he never locks his dog in the bathroom. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the police at the police, the prosecutors asked, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>after this incident, how was your dog like, how did

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<v Speaker 3>your dog act? And he said, well, after this incident,

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<v Speaker 3>my dog was like very jittery, very on edge all

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<v Speaker 3>the time. So now kit Cutty leaves his home, he

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<v Speaker 3>gets in his car, he's calling Diddy allegedly and he

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<v Speaker 3>says Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Answers, and kit Cutty was asking him like, yo, where

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<v Speaker 1>you at? Did?

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<v Speaker 3>He keep saying to him, I'm on my way. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on my way like Diddy is telling him allegedly, he's

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<v Speaker 3>on his way to his home, and Kit Cutty hangs

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<v Speaker 3>up and he's like, you know, I took a second

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought about it because I started thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know who he's with, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>he has on him, I don't know his intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't make any sense for me to try

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<v Speaker 3>and like try and find him right now, decided to

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<v Speaker 3>just chill. He went back to his house and then

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<v Speaker 3>he called police again. Now, when he called police, he

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<v Speaker 3>did make a report for the break in, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said he saw Cassie after that, after all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>and that she was stressed out. Now that we move on, right,

0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:43.520
<v Speaker 3>So now Christmas comes along. So after all of this,

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<v Speaker 3>Cassie and Kid Cutty head to Cassie's parent home. Not

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<v Speaker 3>too shortly after this, head to Cassie's parent home in Connecticut.

0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Now we've heard about this visit to Cassie's parent home

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<v Speaker 3>in Connecticut multiple times. We've heard about it from Cassie

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<v Speaker 3>from her point of view. We've heard about it from Ki,

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<v Speaker 3>his mother as well briefly, and now we're hearing about

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<v Speaker 3>it from Kit Cutty. Now Kit Cutty is saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she needed to be around family. He says while he

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<v Speaker 3>was there, did he allegedly text him a few times?

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<v Speaker 3>Because remember Diddy was saying, like I want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Because at this point, now Diddy is trying to have

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<v Speaker 3>a conversation allegedly about what their relationship is, like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, okay, like I need to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of it this.

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<v Speaker 3>So kit Cutty is like, you know, did he allegedly

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<v Speaker 3>text him a couple of times, but he didn't give

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<v Speaker 3>them too much so it stopped. So then going into

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<v Speaker 3>New Year's of January twenty twenty. January twenty twelve, their

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<v Speaker 3>relationship like just dies out. Cassie on you Know, on

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<v Speaker 3>her testimony, said that she broke up with him going

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<v Speaker 3>into the New year. Kit Cutty said it just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like faded out, like they just stopped talking. And

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<v Speaker 3>for him, he said, it was just a lot going on,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he felt like it was best that they just

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<v Speaker 3>stopped talking because it was a lot of drama. January

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve, right, so we're into the new year, kick

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<v Speaker 3>Cutty says he's at his ex girlfriend's sister souse just

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<v Speaker 3>chilling and then he gets a call from his dog

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<v Speaker 3>sitting around like six seven o'clock in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 3>a dog sitter is like, hey, your car is on

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<v Speaker 3>fire in the driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like what, So he goes home.

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<v Speaker 3>While he's on his way home, he has one of

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<v Speaker 3>his friends send him a photo of the damage of

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<v Speaker 3>the car. Now here is the photos of some of

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<v Speaker 3>the damage from the car. So as you see here

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<v Speaker 3>you have his ragtop a Porsche at that time, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a ragtop.

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<v Speaker 1>The ragtop was split.

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<v Speaker 3>He says it wasn't like this before he left his house,

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<v Speaker 3>that it was split, and he did say that, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>he felt.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this was done on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>So he says that the top was split as we see,

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<v Speaker 3>and a hottail was thrown into the car which then

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<v Speaker 3>caused the fire. Fire, as we see, effected the immediate inside.

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<v Speaker 3>It was drawn and a lot that was thrown on

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<v Speaker 3>the driver's side of the car. So here's some of

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<v Speaker 3>the damage. So the roof was cut on the soft

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<v Speaker 3>top of the Porsche. There's smoke damage to the driver door.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a seat burned up. So you gotta see the

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<v Speaker 3>red has turned black on the driver's side.

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<v Speaker 1>Kit Cutty said that when he got back home to

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<v Speaker 1>his house.

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<v Speaker 3>The cops were at his house when he arrived, and

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<v Speaker 3>the cops had, you know, verified that the cocks that

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<v Speaker 3>had been thrown into his car which caused the fire,

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<v Speaker 3>and that they actually like showed it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when they asked him who.

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<v Speaker 3>He thought was responsible, he of course said that he

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<v Speaker 3>felt like it was intentional, and he you know, reiterated

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<v Speaker 3>that he believes that the damage was intentional, and he

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<v Speaker 3>said the last time he saw Cassie just in general,

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<v Speaker 3>up until the day that we're seeing him on the

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<v Speaker 3>stand was twenty twelve at the Soho House. Now, he

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<v Speaker 3>then goes into this meeting that we've been hearing a

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<v Speaker 3>lot about. So Cassie had testified that Diddy was still

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<v Speaker 3>upset allegedly and wanted to sit down with her and

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<v Speaker 3>Kit Cutty.

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<v Speaker 1>So they sat down at a restaurant. Kitcutty is like, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We sat down at the Soho house, but before this,

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<v Speaker 3>and this wasn't in twenty twelve, right, because in twenty

0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.359
<v Speaker 3>twelve we ran into her at the Soho house. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're like, wait, you were at the Soho house another

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<v Speaker 3>time and you ran in the castie. Can you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to us about that meeting. So he's like, it was

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<v Speaker 3>the next day after the car on fire incident. He

0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.159
<v Speaker 3>had reached out to Diddy because at this point, he says,

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.240
<v Speaker 3>he was just tired of all of the drama and

0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:17.560
<v Speaker 3>he was like by the time it got to like

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<v Speaker 3>the car getting set on fire, He's like, Yo, this

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 3>is too much. We just need to talk. So he

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<v Speaker 3>alleged he reached out to Diddy. They met up at

0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the Soho house. He reached out his manager actually reached

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<v Speaker 3>out to d Y, who we know has been identified

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<v Speaker 3>as Diddy's security. So they meet up, he says, he

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<v Speaker 3>alleges when he comes in the room they met in

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<v Speaker 3>like a like a conference room in one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Soho houses in La But he says that those conference

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<v Speaker 3>rooms are not there anymore. But he comes in and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, Diddy is standing allegedly at the window.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a huge window on one side of the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy is standing at the window with his hands behind

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<v Speaker 3>his back like he was like a superhero, like a

0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Marvel super villain.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how he described that. Everybody in the court room

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<v Speaker 1>of course to go laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>So then they started having a conversation and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from the conversation, the alleged conversation, he was able.

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<v Speaker 1>To take away that Diddy felt away because they were

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<v Speaker 1>homies at one point.

0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 3>And Kit Cutty is like, well, you know, I thought

0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it was all fair game because I had been told

0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.959
<v Speaker 3>that y'all were no longer together, that y'all had broken up,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what.

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Cassie had told me.

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.760
<v Speaker 3>So then he says, into that conversation, Cassie arrives into

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.920
<v Speaker 3>the meeting, and Ki Cutty, of course, he's like, y'all,

0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I was upset because basically, like the story was fun

0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 3>to me, completely.

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<v Speaker 1>Different, and you know, she was a little upset as well,

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 1>but she was just explaining how they met, how they

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love.

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.920
<v Speaker 3>And again, kick Cutty keeps missing that Diddy's demeanor allegedly

0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 3>was like really calm throughout all of this stuff. He

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 3>said that his demeanor was calm during the meeting to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where like it was almost like eerie a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he.

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<v Speaker 3>Says, at the end of the conversation, Kit Cutty is like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he stood up. He allegedly goes to shake

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.680
<v Speaker 3>Diddy's hand because at this point, now in the the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, all right, whatever, we're moving on, and Ki

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Cutty's like, well, what about my car allegedly?

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.920
<v Speaker 1>And Diddy is like, I don't know what you're talking about.

0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:09.400
<v Speaker 1>He says.

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<v Speaker 3>A few of the years later, he saw Diddy at

0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the Soho house again. Diddy was with his daughter, one

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 3>of his daughters, and he came on to him and

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<v Speaker 3>just apologized and was like, yo, man, I'm sorry for

0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.119
<v Speaker 3>all that drama and blah blah blah blah blah, like

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.800
<v Speaker 3>all those things, and then the prosecution rushed.

0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>So Brian still comes on Cross.

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>And he is asking questions instantly, right, He's like, okay,

0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.879
<v Speaker 3>let's point to the fact that there were.

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Fingerprints and DNA took from the car.

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Correct, And Kit Cutty's like correct, and he's like, Brian

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.359
<v Speaker 3>still instantly points to Brian instantly points to the fact

0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.919
<v Speaker 3>that there were allegedly findings that these DNA you know,

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff pointed back.

0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 1>To a woman. So now we're all like, wait, what

0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>they objected it.

0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 3>He tried to act to the up bunch of different

0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 3>ways and it just it just was a mess.

0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.360
<v Speaker 1>So we didn't really get too far on that.

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 3>But Kit Cutty did say that he tried to stay

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 3>in contact with the police so he could figure out,

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, more from the investigation and the information from

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<v Speaker 3>the investigation, but he never gotten anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He never got any more information.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Kit Cutty goes into having the conversation about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Brian still just establishing his career and all of the things,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like, you know, just making a point to

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<v Speaker 3>let it be known that both of them were major

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<v Speaker 3>music artists at the time, around twenty twelve, and he

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<v Speaker 3>talks about the tour that Kid Cutty was on. But

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<v Speaker 3>then he makes a point where I'm like, I get

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<v Speaker 3>what they're trying to do, but I just, again, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how this is gonna fare for the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian still makes it the point to bring up the

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<v Speaker 3>burn the phone that Cassie had, which is what Cassie

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<v Speaker 3>had admitted that she was communicating with Kit Cutty on

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<v Speaker 3>while they were dating because she just didn't want Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>to find out certain things or find out about him,

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<v Speaker 3>because she just didn't think he would be safe and

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<v Speaker 3>she just didn't want the drm of him finding out allegedly.

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<v Speaker 3>But Brian still leaves with a mic drop of like

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<v Speaker 3>she played both of y'all right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, right, and that was it. That was all.

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<v Speaker 3>Now from the prosecutor side, you're looking at this like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>slam dunk. We got Kitcutty on the sand testifying first hand.

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<v Speaker 3>So what he went through, the alleged arson, the phone

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<v Speaker 3>calls with Diddy, the back of her with Cassie, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and showing that you know, she was trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>away but she just couldn't allegedly, and all these things

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<v Speaker 3>on the defensive side, right with Brian still when he

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<v Speaker 3>comes up, because he goes into this line of questioning

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<v Speaker 3>about because Kit Cutty kept mentioning that Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so calm. Diddy was so calm, Diddy was so calm.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and we had heard and other people's testimonies about

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy allegedly carrying firearms and you know, just different things

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<v Speaker 3>to intimidate and to get his way and to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do these different things.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brian still asked him like, you know, you was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Meet up with him, you didn't wonder or think if

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<v Speaker 3>he might have been carrying of firearm And he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't really think about it. And then he's like and

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<v Speaker 3>you saying Diddy was like he was calm, He was

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<v Speaker 3>calm and demeanor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they talk about even the homebreaking, They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>so there was no forced entry.

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<v Speaker 1>They just left your door locked. What Brian still was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to set up was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was downplaying the you know, this big, crazy, aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>in nature gun slinging man that the prosecution is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to set up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me know how y'all feeling, y'all, how y'all feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>This is gonna play me myself personally my point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it pays a picture of an incident that happened,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, I think it would have been a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more got him on Diddy for the prosecutors on Diddy,

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<v Speaker 3>if they had been able to say that the DNA

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<v Speaker 3>evidence came back and said or something on the cameras,

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<v Speaker 3>or if there was a phone conversation or something that

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<v Speaker 3>did he admit it to. I mean, you have Kit

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<v Speaker 3>Cutty's testimony, of course, and he's there and he went

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<v Speaker 3>through it. But kick Cutty didn't see Didd he throw

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 3>that cocktail in his car that caused the fire. Kit

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 3>cut he didn't see Diddy or anyone involved, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, do these things. So it's like in

0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 3>the prosecution subtly, very subtly leaned into there was DNA allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>Found, even though they had to strike that right. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>This calm demeanor, trying to make you know, did he

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<v Speaker 3>not see like this big bad guy that the prosecution

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Him out to beat.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you guys in the next episode. I tell

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<v Speaker 3>you every episode because I really mean it. At the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, there is always so much going

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<v Speaker 3>on and so much to talk about. Y'all could be

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere with anybody talking about it, but you are right

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<v Speaker 3>here with me every single episode, and I appreciate y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's keep going strong, little riders. Bring the people on

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<v Speaker 3>in the community. Okay, Invite your homegirl, invite your bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's asking about Biddy and let them know I'm right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in the courthouse. I can bring you all the

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<v Speaker 3>details right here on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>To invite them.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell a friend, to tell a friend it's the Ladies

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<v Speaker 3>with Londa Rosa. I will see you guys in my

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<v Speaker 3>next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>M