WEBVTT - Hour 2 - NBA Player Stagnation, Joe LaCava

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Oh, I'm still laughing from last night's Espie's

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<v Speaker 1>all right, maybe not. I always like it when the

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<v Speaker 1>camera goes on somebody as they're getting a reaction from

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<v Speaker 1>a joke that somebody's telling, and then they're not laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they see the camera goes on him, and

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<v Speaker 1>then uh, Steph Curry was cutting up last night. He

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<v Speaker 1>took yeah wow, Um here's here's his shot at Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>James last night. Lebron James. He hosted the Uh This

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<v Speaker 1>Award show back in two thousand and seven after losing

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA finals. So yes, uh you guess that this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels better, This feels okay. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it would should have listened to that kind of response.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've been in the room where you've had

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<v Speaker 1>some famous comedians and they don't even get that reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's Hey, I got all dressed up and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be entertained tonight, and and I'm I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to whether I'm entertained or not. Yeah, Paul, going back

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<v Speaker 1>to that last one, there is no joke in a sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like saying, you know, Kevin Durant left the Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>and he hasn't won since. Nah, a fact, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>spouting facts. Uh, A'll stop, Todd. We're not. Nobody's saying

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it's observational humor. Without the humor, that's that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work out on a on a comedy stage. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph also dis the Lakers super Bowl champions. I know

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds great. I know that sounds great. Uh it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so inspiring watching y'all play, watching y'all win

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<v Speaker 1>a super Bowl, watching y'all celebrate, and it's just inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>to see that strategy of you know, buying old superstars

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<v Speaker 1>pay off for a local team around here. Okay, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like uncomfortable, Yeah that one? All right, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. It's our two on this Thursday, Dan and

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<v Speaker 1>the Dana. That's yesmar whoever wrote that joke, think are

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<v Speaker 1>they thinking to themselves? And I thought that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to land a little bit better. Yeah, I've I've stood

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<v Speaker 1>with one of Letterman's writers and when Dave will do

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<v Speaker 1>his opening monologue, and you can, they feel every every joke.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it kills, they're like yeah, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't like oh man, so their reaction is different.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would imagine the group of writers that we

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, and there's nothing worse than when they

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<v Speaker 1>write a joke for you and you go this, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't gonna work. I did a presentation at the SP's

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<v Speaker 1>with Bill Murray. Now the back drop was we never

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsed because Bill didn't show up for rehearsal. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we're fifteen seconds away from going on stage and Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Murray's not there. Other than that, everything's going well that night,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to hand out an award, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I go, well, do I do Bill's joke? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What do I do? And they go, just play it straight?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm getting ready to go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>play it straight. Bill shows up, Bill walks in, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>was I late? I go no, And they go and

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<v Speaker 1>here to announced the Best Team Award for the Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray and Dan Patrick, or it probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>been Dan Patrick and Bill Murray. And we go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and Bill just add libs. Bill thinks he's given

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<v Speaker 1>an award out to somebody and they're not getting the award.

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<v Speaker 1>And it worked out because Bill's a you know, comedic genius.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get done, we walk back stage. Shani goes,

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<v Speaker 1>how did that feel? I said horrible? He said, now

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<v Speaker 1>you know what Saturday Night Live felt like? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god. So you get these moments

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<v Speaker 1>there where you think something's funny or you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to try to be funny, or they're gonna write you

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<v Speaker 1>a joke and you go, oh, this is this? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this not good? And you get a couple of those

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<v Speaker 1>moments last night. But for the most part, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I give Steph Curry a lot of credit. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>does have a show, what is it, Whack a Mole

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<v Speaker 1>or something on ABC? Is that what it's called? Holy

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<v Speaker 1>Moley kind of might have been Whack a Mole? Whack

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<v Speaker 1>a Mole? Yeah, So you get that partnership there. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's how they bring in It's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you want a network show? Yeah? Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>hoast the ESPs? Uh? Yeah, yeah, that's the right answer. Yes, Polly.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went back and found the clip with you

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<v Speaker 1>and Bill Murray give Michael Jordan the Comeback Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year Award? Is that what it was? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting because uh, Jordan wasn't at the Spy's but

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<v Speaker 1>you guys give the award. You and Bill have some jokes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you actually went back and forth and talked

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<v Speaker 1>to Jordan versus remote. You're like, you asked him some

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<v Speaker 1>question about where he's gonna put the award, and Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Murray goes, because Michael, all the words you got, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes a comeback Player of the Year. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of my kicking. Where'd you coming back from? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we didn't rehearse any of that. Nothing, no rehearsal,

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<v Speaker 1>no rehearsal with Jordan. Nothing, And I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blanked it from my mind because it was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those where I'm, you know, I'm starting to

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<v Speaker 1>panic a little bit because Bill was not backstage and

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<v Speaker 1>he shows up. I swear fifteen seconds to go and

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<v Speaker 1>we're ready to go out there on stage and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a hat on, had some goofy western hat or

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<v Speaker 1>something on. But uh yeah, painful moments there with the sps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good. We're gonna get this clip because you and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Murray go back and forth like six minutes with Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, it's really good. Yeah, here's Steph Curry talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Tom Brady last night. After celebrating three kids' birthdays

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<v Speaker 1>in two weeks, I finally understand why tom Brady keeps

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to work. Well, the relaxation. Sometimes it's exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>So tom Brady speaking of he's the only guy I

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<v Speaker 1>know on Earth who'd rather get hit by Aaron Donald

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<v Speaker 1>than hang out with a supermodel. We all make choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they don't understand some of them. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry last night. Weekends are better. MLB Sunday leadoff

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<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty am Eastern only on Peacon Basketball News. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden signs with the seventy six ers two year deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Took less money. Feels like it's less money for one year.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he'll probably with the player option, decide that he'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to get a new contract with the seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>ers or somebody else. But as I said in the

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<v Speaker 1>first hour, yeah, not fat shaming. I'm just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>in shape shame here that if he wants to help

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<v Speaker 1>the team, it may not be about salary or money

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<v Speaker 1>you'll save. Just get in shape. That's all get in

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<v Speaker 1>shape because he's going to be thirty three, and he

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<v Speaker 1>certainly lacked that explosiveness. And Kevin Durant even remarked that

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<v Speaker 1>when they got hardened, they're like, man, you're not the

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<v Speaker 1>same guy. Well, you're stuck with him. The Nets are

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<v Speaker 1>in a tough spot because Kevin Durant is requested to trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows what Kyrie wants, and that's led to speculation

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<v Speaker 1>with the two stars. And I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 1>play their final game with the Nets, but to start

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<v Speaker 1>the whole process, Brooklyn was expecting a big haul for KD.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't happened, not going to happen anytime soon. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like and Brooklyn's taking its time with this decision. And

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<v Speaker 1>I still think if Kevin Durant realizes maybe that market

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<v Speaker 1>is not out there for him. What the Nets want

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<v Speaker 1>in return, Well, what are my options? I have a contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta play Kyrie. Kyrie, it feels like you can

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<v Speaker 1>trade him whenever you want to. Do you want a

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick from the Lakers. The Lakers aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to negotiate against themselves. They're not gonna go u.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are gonna trade Kyrie for one first round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick in twenty twenty seven. Nope, all right, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a second first round pick twenty twenty nine. But it

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<v Speaker 1>felt like this has gone to a screeching halt because

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like this is inevitable, this is happening right now,

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<v Speaker 1>Something's gonna happen. Katie wants out Kyrie once out, Ye

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<v Speaker 1>wants to go to the Lakers. Katie to the Phoenix Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, well, I can't go there,

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<v Speaker 1>to the Miami Heat, can't do that either. Now nothing Crickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're hearing Washington Wizards. So it lacks a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of the man he's going to the Suns are

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<v Speaker 1>going to he'd go on the Wizard, and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not even getting Bradley Beale in return. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>the Nets, I get at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Nets owe it to their fans, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, hey, we we tried, it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we have as we move forward. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I could say long suffering fan base

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<v Speaker 1>with the Brooklyn Nets, but I would say, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we tried, it didn't work, and this is the team

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put out there. Yeah, more Dan, this is exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>Who said the Wizards? Like somebody said it with a

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<v Speaker 1>straight face, like, Oh, there's a chance he can go

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<v Speaker 1>to the worst. He's from Washington, d c PP. He

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<v Speaker 1>went to Texas for college. I know, well, where's he

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<v Speaker 1>going to go in? DC? Georgetown, Maryland? No, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a basketball what careful van Pelt. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>worried about this, Scott van Pelt backlash. He doesn't play

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<v Speaker 1>with Maryland. Adrian Branch was that his name? Left hander?

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland team national title? Yeah? Steve Blake, gritty and guts.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the big gravest Vascas fan, that guy. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Wilcox, Okay, all right, you're putting me. I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>saying guys from twenty years ago, Joe Smith, throw him

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Lanta Elmore, Tom McMillan, John Lucas, left Grizel.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now say somebody from the past five years now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like Fritzie, I'm stuck in the seventies. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his career always freaked me out how it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really work out. Remember Steve Francis when he was

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<v Speaker 1>at Maryland. He was like, I thought he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be Dwayne Wade, and he felt like he was for

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<v Speaker 1>about four years and he just fell off the cliff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he would have been Dwayne Wade, would have been

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie Francis, right, you know who you remind me of?

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<v Speaker 1>Dwayne Wade? Who's that You're gonna find out years later?

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<v Speaker 1>This guy Marv went to Rutger League last night. I

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<v Speaker 1>did you didn't get to play? No, no, no no, I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't disrespect Hollywood Ground like that, No, thank you, No.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was good though. It was one of those places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on my bucket list, and we talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>during the look in and I never got to play.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to shoot there. I never got to play there.

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<v Speaker 1>I got two layups at the end, okay, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't there wasn't a game going on, so it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like I was frozen out. When I went to West

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<v Speaker 1>Forest Street, when they froze me out, that was different.

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<v Speaker 1>But at Rucker, I just went there and I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, take a couple of jumpers and a shooter. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a shooter. I always love that that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if all you have to do is hit the first shot,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're a shooter. You make a couple of shots,

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<v Speaker 1>who's guarding here, they'll call you some white guy, who's

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<v Speaker 1>guarding Dan Marley? Come on, shooter. Yeah, I know, just

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<v Speaker 1>give me a label white guy. Hey, who's got the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Marley guy? But that would be the big compliment

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<v Speaker 1>if you got to play and uh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>hear the brothers go shooter and I'd be like all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then they'd lock me down, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you know, wouldn't make any other shots. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>especially during your era. Somebody got keke vanderwy over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, Hey, who's got Jerry west over here? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Trpua, man, who's gardening man? Come on? Uh? But yeah, Rucker,

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<v Speaker 1>that's uh. I was there. You know, it wasn't as nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's nice now. They really made it nice

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<v Speaker 1>and stands there, But back I was there in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties and uh, a little different environment there I went

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<v Speaker 1>during the day. You can say that New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know there are moments like I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>my kids and we start walking down the street and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be like, now you think, now this used to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bad area. I go, yes, used to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad area. But like the meatpacking district, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, no, no, they didn't have restaurants here. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>went here at all. It would bed bath and beyond

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<v Speaker 1>bad if you know what I mean. Now, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bed bath and beyond the grave it gets

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<v Speaker 1>of avocado toasts. Let's go down the meatpacking All right,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the poll question for the second hour, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take a break. We'll talk to Tiger woodsuck Henny, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we could do another one here about the

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<v Speaker 1>team that should trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. Oh yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>Dore's a lot of names being thrown should, should, should, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks obviously, right, Brown seem to be a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the Seahawks strategy is, like, there

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a bigger picture. You got a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>year old head coach, you're in a rebuild, You're in

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<v Speaker 1>a division with the defending Super Bowl champs, the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona is good too, all right, so Seattle Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>only if Deshaun Watson's down for the entire year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've already said that they're not interested, which means they

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<v Speaker 1>firmly believe Deshaun Watson's not going to be down for

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<v Speaker 1>maybe half the year. Yample. Yeah, the Miami Dolphins still

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of draft capital in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. I think they have two first two thirds.

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<v Speaker 1>They've still got backload of draft picks. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't I don't want a quarterback making thirty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars. I'd rather get my quarterback in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>And unless you say we can't pass up Jimmy Garoppolo,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think there's a team that says that.

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<v Speaker 1>And two has got one more year, all right, then

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<v Speaker 1>you go back into the draft and find somebody. Yes, Seed,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the Texans? I think the Texans are If

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<v Speaker 1>you said the logical landing spot, I'd say the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>that Jimmy Garoppolo will end up there. Got Davis Mills

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<v Speaker 1>get out of Stanford, who I thought played pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>Given everything going on with the Texans, Jimmy Garoppolo I

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<v Speaker 1>think will end up with the Texans. Kind of feels

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<v Speaker 1>like that you can almost see the uniform already. H

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make any uniform look great. Yeah, could Garoppolo?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the worst looking uniform? Could Garoppolo make the worst

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<v Speaker 1>looking uniform better? Yes? So he makes his team better,

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<v Speaker 1>he makes so. Yeah. All he does is make uniforms

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<v Speaker 1>look better. All right, we'll take a break. Tiger Woods

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<v Speaker 1>Caddy will join us. Coming up next, more phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>cards to The Dan Patrick Show. We're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger Woods caddy. Joe Lacava on and PAULI goes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>can we ask some caddy questions? Yeah? I mean, Joe

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<v Speaker 1>is reasonable man, He's an expert. What do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to ask? Joe? Here's one. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>fascinated by little things with caddies. Okay, for most pro caddies,

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<v Speaker 1>do they pick a shoulder and always carry the bag

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<v Speaker 1>on that shoulder for like all eighteen holes? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>they switch from hole to hole? Weight of all the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you could ask Tiger Woods caddy, I love the

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<v Speaker 1>minutia is it did you pick a shoulder and stick

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<v Speaker 1>with it or do you try to balance it out?

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<v Speaker 1>And how does that process? One? Right? Oh, asked Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in a minute, Todd, you have a question, caddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Question they do if he ever had a second guess

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<v Speaker 1>himself on a big shot where he's agonizing over which

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<v Speaker 1>club and then finally he goes with the one convinces

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger or wherever he's worked with over the years, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden the leaft minute, he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have give him a different club that one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Seaton. When a player doesn't make the cut,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the like balance between bad advice or poor execution?

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<v Speaker 1>Like so the like like a show of blame. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I I from the caddy's perspective, like I told

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<v Speaker 1>you the right club, you just hit it poorly. Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it the wrong club? All right, what's your biggest

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<v Speaker 1>purchase with your winnings? Oh? Okay, all right, let's bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Joe Lacama the Tiger Woods County. Where do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to start, Joe, you tell me, I'll start with

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<v Speaker 1>the right shoulder, left shoulder. Okay. So PAULI wanted to know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you carry the bag on the right shoulder left

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder or does it matter? Well for me, I'm right handed,

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<v Speaker 1>so I do everything right handed. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>could carry the bag from here to my front door

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<v Speaker 1>left handed. Okay. So there's a quick story behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>So my best friend Bones was one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>guys to go double strap, and he told me for

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<v Speaker 1>years and years and years, you got to go double strap,

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<v Speaker 1>And for years and years I denied it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't do it. It just looked funny to me. It

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<v Speaker 1>felt funky the whole nine yards. And then I think

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<v Speaker 1>when I got to Tiger's bag later on, I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting older, obviously, and Tiger was encouraging me the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta go double strap, double strap. It looks seas

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<v Speaker 1>maybe look awkward at first, but you'll be fine to

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<v Speaker 1>get used at the whole nine yards. So finally, in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, Tiger actually showed up in Philadelphia, third leg

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<v Speaker 1>of the playoffs at Aeronomic with a double strap on.

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<v Speaker 1>He got it himself and he actually hooked it up

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<v Speaker 1>to the bag. So I said, oh man, now I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give it a go. So I give it a go.

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<v Speaker 1>On Tuesday, we playing a nine old practice round with Rory.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very uncomfortable. I can't stand the thing. Wednesday pro am,

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. I'm struggling with this thing. I'm dropping the

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<v Speaker 1>towel because now it's hid me. I can't really see anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid of club's gonna fall out the whole nine yards.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm aggravated, but I figured I gotta suck it

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<v Speaker 1>up and do it for the entire week. We get

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<v Speaker 1>to Thursday, Tiger shoots I think sixty two or sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>He's either in the lead or one off. The league

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<v Speaker 1>played great, never missed a shot. So now when Tiger

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<v Speaker 1>plays well, obviously I get a million texts. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the texts I get is from my son Joe, who

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<v Speaker 1>we had just gone to James Madison maybe a month ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He went down to middle of August. His middle of

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<v Speaker 1>September and we hadn't heard from him since in a month.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I maybe got one text from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>finally I'm going through my text and I see my

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<v Speaker 1>kids's name. I'm so excited that he texts me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking myself, he needed watched the golf, heard about to score,

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<v Speaker 1>saw some highlights the whole nine yards. So I go down,

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<v Speaker 1>scroll down and see my kid's name. I scroll down,

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<v Speaker 1>read the text, and all I get is double strap,

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<v Speaker 1>question mark soft. So there's your there's your strap, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's your right and left shoulder. Okay, what do you have, Seaton?

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<v Speaker 1>When Tiger misses the cut? What's the ratio of blame

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<v Speaker 1>for Tiger execution or you in the role that you played.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when we missed the cut, which isn't often.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank guy with Tiger and Fred over the years. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of those guys. I'm the first guy to

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<v Speaker 1>say I've never hit a chip, I've never made a put,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had a drive, So all the credit goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the player. However, when things go bad or south,

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<v Speaker 1>we missed the cut on that Friday night, I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over the stuff that happened for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six oals, and I might have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do better. I always put more of the blame on

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<v Speaker 1>myself because as a caddy you just feel so often

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<v Speaker 1>that you missed the cut. And there's no worse feeling

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<v Speaker 1>the world. On Friday night and Fritzie you were saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>do your second guess yourself? Has Tiger been in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a swing and you think to yourself, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have said seven instead of eight. Well, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you see a flyer come out of the roff

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to gauge how fast it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out, and as soon as he makes contact, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, please get down. That's like in the

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<v Speaker 1>next towny kind of thing. So you do have that

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<v Speaker 1>another roff when you're kind of guessing as what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I make plenty of mistakes. I got to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to my fred. Couple days we were playing the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy first hole of the Canadian Open at glenn Abbey,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen fold. It's a very long green pins all

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<v Speaker 1>the way in the back. We're going back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>seven iron, eight iron, seven iron, eight ron and seven

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm thinking myself, let's get it back, or let's

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<v Speaker 1>make a birdie. Let's win this golf tournament. So I

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<v Speaker 1>talk him into a seven iron. He one hops it

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<v Speaker 1>into the back bunker. Now, of course you're feeling awful,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it always goes with the caddies, when you

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<v Speaker 1>make a mistake, they can never get the ball up

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<v Speaker 1>and down to fredch Credit had a beautiful bunker shot

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<v Speaker 1>to about seven eight feet and of course missed the putt,

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<v Speaker 1>goes on to birdie eighteen, and we missed the playoff

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<v Speaker 1>by one shot. That was in the middle of nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think about that every day every day pretty much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that just you know, I mean, I make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mistakes, don't get me wrong, But that

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<v Speaker 1>was what I felt like, really actually cost my guy

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<v Speaker 1>at least a shot at the tournament. He makes part there,

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, he's in a playoff. If he makes

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<v Speaker 1>birdie there and birdie's eighteen, then he wins it outright.

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<v Speaker 1>So that one stuck with me for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Still does clubs have to stay with you at all

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<v Speaker 1>times that it's your job to get it from the

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<v Speaker 1>course back and then you know, the hotel back to

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<v Speaker 1>the course every single day for twenty years. Yes, with

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<v Speaker 1>Fred the last ten years. But they have club stories

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<v Speaker 1>at these places. But he does not leave his clubs

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<v Speaker 1>here because if there's one hundred and fifty six has

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<v Speaker 1>the clubs and club storage, who are who's the ones?

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna mess around with the Tigers obviously, so we

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<v Speaker 1>take them every day. Normally, I'll just load him into

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<v Speaker 1>his trunk and then he hikes him up to the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel of the house that he's staying yet, but they

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<v Speaker 1>stay with him all the time. Back in the Fred days,

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<v Speaker 1>if I went to play golf, i'd actually use his clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you have you taken inventory of Tigers clubs and

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<v Speaker 1>something's been missing? Um no, not really, but I'm a fanatic,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll go on the first tea and he'll look

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<v Speaker 1>at me like really, like I'll count to clubs four

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<v Speaker 1>or five different times just to make there's sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen in there. And then I'm always peeking in the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom to make sure Charlie didn't leave one and there,

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of times they'll play golf together. Not

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<v Speaker 1>so much now because he's gotten older and bigger, but

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<v Speaker 1>those little clubs get stuck down and then you never know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well that happened, didn't Ian Woosen him try to take

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<v Speaker 1>a club out? He had two drivers in the bag

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<v Speaker 1>at a major and they try to like disregard it

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<v Speaker 1>on the first tea. What's funny you say that because

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<v Speaker 1>it happened at the British Open, and you know most guys,

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.399
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's usually an extra wedge. It's usually if you

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.160
<v Speaker 1>have an extra club, it's using an extra wedge, maybe

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a putter, because sometimes you don't we see the putter

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 1>with the with the head covers going on. But to

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>have two drivers in there and not noticed that, that's

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 1>a big blunder. I tell people all the time, and

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell this on the ear. If there's fifteen clubs

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>in here and I notice that on the third tea,

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pretend like I'm going to take a leak

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 1>with a bag and I'm gonna get rid of that

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>club in the week and no one's gonna know about

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>trust me. He's Tiger Woods caddy, Joe Lacava? Does it?

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Is it weird? Though? Like? When did you get to

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the point where you go, I'm Tiger Woods caddy? Like

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.919
<v Speaker 1>how does that work? You? Get the phone call, because

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.199
<v Speaker 1>you've caddied for a lot of great people. You mentioned

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Freddie Couples, But now all of a sudden, here's the

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>second half of Tiger's career and he's putting it in

0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>your hands. Yeah, that's a great question too. You know,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess being around these guys, you know, you really

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:02.360
<v Speaker 1>on all of the guys, and I have a little

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.919
<v Speaker 1>bit of a reputation as being very tough on my guys, Like,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>unless it's a very spectacular shot, I won't give him

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>any credit at all. Like I have very very high expectations,

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 1>and I think the guys know that, and I think

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>actually Tiger appreciates that because he doesn't want to cheerleader

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.479
<v Speaker 1>out there. But I'm kind of rambling on. I mean,

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a great phone call and get from Tiger

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>in the fact that he was interested in me. And

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, ten years later, I understand

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm on the back half of the career of the

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>whole nine yards, but I was around when he you know,

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>we tie Jack necklace and career victories at the Memorial

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>happened to be his tournament, and then when he tied

0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Sam Sneet and stuff like that and obviously the Master's

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen, so a lot of special moments. He treats me.

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, the greatest thing about Tigers, he treats me

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>like a friend and a buddy. I understand that I

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 1>work for him, and I get that, I get that

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>relationship part of it, but I'm more like a friend

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 1>than an employee to him, which is fantastic. When's the

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.159
<v Speaker 1>last time you got yelled at my Tiger? You know,

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>I can honestly say I probably worked one hundred, ten

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifteen tournaments. He's never yelled at me once.

0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Not on the golf. Of course, he may give me,

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe give grief if I if my team's beat his teams,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's the only time he gives me grief. He's

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the easiest guy in the world to work for. Takes

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>ownership of everything. When you're walking up eighteen, or you're

0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 1>letting Tiger walk up eighteen at the Open Championship, you

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>know it's been a struggle. You've seen it firsthand. What

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 1>is your role? And then you've got to get Tiger

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of back into the moment here of you know,

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.480
<v Speaker 1>let's finish this offense style. Yeah, Well, my first point

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.040
<v Speaker 1>is to stay the writer, stay behind the lit him

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and enjoy the moment. You know, he appreciated that moment

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>a bunch. You know, he gets the history of golf.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>He loves seeing Andrews, he loves everything about the golf tournament,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that he won there twice, the home of golf,

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards. I mean, part of him obviously

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>is very disappointed the way he played. He's nine over

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>a part. That's not the way he wants to finish

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>up on Friday afternoon. He'd preferred to be Sunday afternoon.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>In contention, I get that part of it. But he's

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>smart enough and now he's old enough and wise enough

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to appreciate the moment standing ovation on both sides, the

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 1>whole nine yards give him the tip of the hat

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>over the bridge. It was a phenomenal momentum. You know,

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it would be one thing. We're trying

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>to make the cut. Yeah, you gotta get back there,

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to embarrass yourself. You had a

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:06.479
<v Speaker 1>good ship with a four and up there about three

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>and a half four feet and then obviously you're hoping

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>he makes the cut, which he doesn't. But it didn't

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>ruin the moment. I thought it was a fantastic moment

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>for him and golf. When did you realize that you

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>weren't going to be competitive at the Open Championship? Um, well,

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, it's one of those things where

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>we just never got even going the first day. It

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like he played poorly, obviously MC double on the

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 1>first hole, hidden to Divo, no excuse, seas hid and

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Divot's before, but the putting just didn't seem to be.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>The short game wasn't quite there. I think he's working

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>so hard to get stronger and healthier. You know, he's

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>working on his long game, he's working as an endurance,

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's just think the short game has been neglected

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit at this point and that show it

0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>over there. But you never give up. You know, we're

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>sitting there six over par on the first team to

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>second day, you're still thinking you can shoot six under

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>par and make the cut. You know the puss is

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna be even par, so you're still optimistic. But then

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we got to the turn at you know, seven or

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>eight over, you knew it was over. So you just

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>try to enjoy the last nine holes. What role do

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you play. You find out Tiger has been in a

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>life threatening car accident, what's the first thing that you

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>do when you hear that news. Well, the first thing

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I do is try to reach out to him and

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>you know the people around him. I did want to

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>go visit him in the hospital in LA and they

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>said no, it was the height of the virus, so

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>they said, you know that the hospitals don't want any

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.439
<v Speaker 1>extra people, and so on and so forth. So I

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>was communicating pretty much with him every other day, and

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>after the first two or three days, he's communicating pretty

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>back and forth with me pretty regularly. So I just

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>stayed in touch with him, and then my wife and

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I went down I think in April, a couple months

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 1>after the fact, just to go down there his friends

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>and let him know he's still got a great friend

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and ourselves and we're supporting him through and through regardless

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of what happens with the golf. We just wanted to

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>make sure that he knew he had a friend around.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And then for the rest of that year, the same

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing with down or visiting him a couple

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>more times, and just wanted to know that we're in

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>his corner whatever happens or doesn't happen. But the mental

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.719
<v Speaker 1>aspect to this, because you can't do anything physically for him,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>but mentally that role that you're playing, how would you

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>describe that well? Against it goes back to the friendship thing.

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to know he's got a friend regardless, and

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not leaving anytime soon. You know, I want him

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to know that I have faith in him. The good

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>news about Tiger is he actually likes to rehab aspects,

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>but he likes to be in the gym and that's

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>what he likes to do. So he's got a good

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>attitude in that respect. And you know, there's there's obviously

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>some dark days when things aren't going well. Maybe as

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a setbacker too. And I and I told him, I said,

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>anytime you wanted me to come down, We'll go fishing

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. We'll go hang out, or I'll go watch

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Charlie play golf the whole nine yards, or go watch

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Sam play soccer. I just want to be there as

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a friend and support him that way. And then mentally

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>you just got to get in his grill. And even

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>when he was coming back from the back injuries and stuff,

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 1>he lost some confidence in his games. So it's all

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>about building up his confidence again and letting him know

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that he's the best player in the Did you have

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to get approval from Tiger to do this interview? No?

0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I never even asked him to be honest with him,

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and I just figured, you know, he knows you and

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>he loves you the show and stuff like that, and

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>he knows you weren't going to throw me under the

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.600
<v Speaker 1>bus or anything, so it's all good. What do you

0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>get when he wins AUGUSTA? Well, I get a nice

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>check um, and then you know, as a cat, and

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>we take the flag off of eighteen. That's kind of

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like our Silvan Air, which is fantastic for us. And

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>when Fred won it in ninety two, I said, you

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want I'm gonna try something different here and take

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the entire flag and stick. And I did the same

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>thing in nineteen when Tiger one. So I have two

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>of those sticks along with two of the flags. Where

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>are those? You get a nice page check? Are they

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>in there? They're they're yeah, they're in the room. Can

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we can we see him? Sure? You want to grab

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>that one in the plot? Actually, I think I have

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the the why the tiger flag, the flag part in

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the safe deposit box case somebody case of health burns down,

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>which could have happened. But I got the fred one

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>right here. I'll show it to you, okay, if you

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>can get it on the computer. So here's the flag

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>part of it. But Freddie didn't want that. Here's the stick.

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:55.080
<v Speaker 1>He didn't have any choice. I got news for you,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'll tell you. I'll say a funny story. So

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 1>this is ninety two when I was at actually a

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit younger. So I'm walking off eighteen and the

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>scoring tent at that time was right behind the green

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm so jacked up. So I'm coming off the

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>green and they have Pinkerton as security there and a

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>pinker teen guy comes up to me goes, you can't

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>have that as private property, and I'm like, I'm just

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>baffled that he would say that too. I mean, I

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>understand he's doing his job. And I said, I'll tell

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>you what, if you can get it from me, you

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>can have. And I was so jacked up at the time.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So anyways, I kept two of these and actually fred

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Ridley was kind enough to send me a nice picture

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of Tiger and I on eighteen mounted in a nice frame.

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>So they've been very good to me. And when the

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>two times that my guys have won there. What's the

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>most interesting thing in Tiger's bag aside from the clubs? Wow,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a good question. Nothing really too interesting. I mean

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>us people don't realize it's been using the small ts saces,

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>drivers says are so big he used as the small ones.

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Not that that's anything unusual. I always have a couple

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>of peanut butter and banana sandwiches on pumper nickel. It's

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a little different. And other than that, really nothing unusual.

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>What do you do now leading up to the Masters?

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Between now and the Masters, yeah, I'll probably play a

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of mediocre golf. But what do you do with Tiger? Oh? Okay,

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I don't remember what I'm i gonna do it.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares about what you're doing, Joe, Isn't that the truth? Yeah?

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm hoping that he will play maybe in

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>December at the Hero and the Father's Son and maybe

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the Nis. I'm still hoping. It's three maybe four terms

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>before the Masters. Well, like I won't do much, I'll

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing. Listen, I'll see Tiger, listen, if

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to feel better, you know, maybe October November,

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll come down for a couple of weeks. We'll

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>hang out. You don't have to play every day to

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>practice every day. I'll be there and maybe give you

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a little motivation. We'll go down and play and practice

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and there and maybe get ready

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>for the hero to get ready for following year or

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, and get them ready in any any respect

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>that he needs. If I said that the pro had

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to play with his caddie and his caddy's score counted,

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>if you were going to handy camp, who would be

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the best pair one tour? Wow? Great question. I know

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Max Homer's caddy is very good, and I obviously Max

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the heck of a player. I think Scottie, Scheffler and

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Teddy would make a good twosome, and I think JT

0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>and Bones would would round out to top three that

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I can think of. I know a lot of these kids,

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't even know that well, the good young players.

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>If we had a scramble, I think Tiger and I

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>might have a shot, but it was counting our own ball.

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>I have no chance to Tiger no matter how good

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he played. Joe, great to talk to you and enjoy

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the offseason. Maybe we'll cross pass backstage at some concert there.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like a plan. Thanks Dan, I appreciate it. My

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>best to your family. Thank you, Joe. Thanks Dan. That's

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Joe Lacava, Tiger Woods caddy. I've seen him backstage at

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>some Darius Rucker Whody in the Bluefish concerts there. But

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>understanding what your role is and and Bones was Phil Nicholson's.

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Jim McKay was, you know Phil's caddy. Now he's with

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas, but they don't win championships. They don't win majors.

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Remember when Steve Williams came out and it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we wont all these majors When he was with Tiger

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and I asked Bones, I said, how many majors have

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you wont? He goes none. I'm just a caddy. But

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Williams was like, hey, no, we do this as

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<v Speaker 1>a team. I'm guessing Tiger could have won a couple

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>of majors if I was caddying for him. I'm just

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>guessing as long as I could carry the back. I'd

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>had one of those electric carts when he had just

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:36.479
<v Speaker 1>kind of push it. All right, we'll take a break.

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>That was fun. I appreciate Joe joining us. I text

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 1>him right after, you know, probably not the best timing.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:47.279
<v Speaker 1>So Tiger misses the cut at the Open Championship. I

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<v Speaker 1>wait an hour. I go very emotional, you know, but

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>still wonderful to see love to have you on the show.

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 1>And then I didn't hear from him. And then all

0:34:57.680 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, he's like, what day you do? What

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 1>do you want? I said, how about Thursday? He said,

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, sounds good. Yeah, poet, that does seem like

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one of those jobs where I would not do a

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of interviews if I was in that role. Yeah,

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be careful because Fluff, who was Tiger's caddy,

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>um and Stevie Williams. You gotta be careful what you

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:22.360
<v Speaker 1>say publicly because all of a sudden, you know, Fluff

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 1>talking in an interview and then Tiger Tiger fired him,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and then you got Stevie Williams and it felt like Stevie,

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get out over your skis there. Joe

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was with Fred Couples. Joe is a veteran. Joe knows

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>what you do, and you don't do uh. And you

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>know same with bones who's now with Justin Thomas Like,

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it's what do they say? It's show up, keep up

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and shut up. That's that's the role of the caddy. Yes,

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I caddied for Peter Jacobs and the Part three at

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the Masters and I and what do I need to know?

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>He said, show up, keep up and shut up. I said,

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. We'll take it. Break phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>up top of the hour. When I was with Bill Murray,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>we were presenting the Comeback Player of the Year at

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the SPS. This was nineteen ninety six. My hair is

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>in midseason. That's postseason form right there. But understand this

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>with Bill Murray, you can have something scripted, but it

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.959
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go as scripted. And when he came out, he

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>was handing out a Comeback Award to a country artist

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>named Kinky Friedman, and I didn't know what he was saying.

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I just played the straight guy and trust me, there

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 1>was nothing that was scripted about that. But we did

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>hand out the award. Well we'll have that for you.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>We'll play it back. But some good stuff with Bill Murray. Alrighty.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>A couple of phone calls in here Tony and Baltimore. Hi, Tony,

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today? Hey? What's going on? Damn?

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>That are we doing today? Great tone? What's on your mind? Hey?

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Mane listen, I don't know what what what your former

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>employees got going on, man, but last night was an

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 1>absolute travesty what they did with the Comeback and Player Award.

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Much love to Claint Thompson and other nominees, but what

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>everybody knowing, it's actually trending right now. You're gonna look

0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>at a couple of posts trade man see was robbed

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>last night. Man of the bottomorial's first baseman less seldom. Yeah,

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he was straight up rob My Man beat stage three,

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>conan cancer brother, came back, had a decent season and

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>which is actually laid up to the season he's having

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a right now. They're surgeoness right now. Well and Tony,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I gave out the Comeback Player of the

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Year with Bill Murray. And keep in mind the nominees

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 1>were Michael Jordan, Ron Gant, who suffered a broken leg,

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and Monica's Dallas who got stabbed on the court during

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a tennis match. And guess who won. Michael Jordan, who's

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>comeback was from baseball. He somehow survived to come back

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>from baseball from a horrible decision. Monica Sellis got stabbed

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>in the back on the court. Not as impressive as

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>no no baseball down there in double A. Yeah, Paul,

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I have a theory, and now we're gonna play the

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>sound a little bit. I believe Michael Jordan one comeback

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year because he said he would accept

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the award live during the SP's Yeah, because he wasn't

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.520
<v Speaker 1>even there. We had him VIA's satellite and I had

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>to interview him. We'll have that for you coming up

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>top of the hour. It's one of those where you're

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>going and the nominees are Ron Gant, who suffered a

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>near career ending injury with a broken leg, Monica Sellis

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>who was stabbed during a match, Michael Jordan, and the

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>traumatic comeback from minor league baseball is a grind. It

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>is a grind. Yes, if you have Monica Selson, you're

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the audience, or do you blurt out as

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>soon as I was stabbed and stabbed like some psycho

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.759
<v Speaker 1>stabbed me while I was playing the game. Like you

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>can't say I was robbed. You go a step further

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and say I was stabbed, literally stabbed, was stabbed. I

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>had to take a bust all the way eight hours

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to Ashville, North Carolina. Though Dan during a three games

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.880
<v Speaker 1>set with the Asheville Tourists thoughts and prayers for Michael Jordan.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever tried to hit a curveball? Though? I

0:40:35.040 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't think so. Man, that is wild, But I like,

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.319
<v Speaker 1>you're doing it, and you're going are they gonna buy this? Like?

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Is the audience gonna buy this? That? And the winner

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>is Michael Jordan. Monica Cellus got stabbed, stabbed. She's sitting

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>there and she hears it, and the winner is Michael.

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>She's starting to get up. But because the bandages, man,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I get to Jordan. Wait, holy smokes, I hosh, you've

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>been a second. I mean, like we just could hit her. Yeah,

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>we didn't. We didn't tabulate the bill. I don't even

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>know if anybody voted. I think it was like, how

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>do we get Michael Jordan award? He came back from baseball?

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? Like you get a dramatic reading? Had

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the piano they're playing, had to play in Birmingham for

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>four months to take the bus ride eight hours to Asheville,

0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. He played in temperatures over eighty one degree,

0:41:53.600 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>leaving the Ferrari behind. He had to bat four times

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>in a game. One time he played both ends of

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a double hunter. Yes, Dodd, if you're Michael Jordan. That situation,

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>he's got all He's got all these he doesn't really

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>need the ASP's on the mantel. How cool would that

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>be if he said, I don't know what it must

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 1>be some kind of miscount. This is a little ridiculous.

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>As soon as I get a chance, I am sending

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>this to Monica. What if he said, I'm going to

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>send this to ron gann? Wow? Yeah, uh all right,

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna play that the interview we did with Michael Jordan,

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and this is live at the SP's and we with

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>a straight face said Michael Jordan comeback Player of the Year.

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