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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noa.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben.

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Speaker 4: We're joined as always with our super producer, Dylan the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee pal Fagan.

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Speaker 3: Most importantly, you are you. You are here.

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Speaker 4: That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist. This is

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Speaker 4: July tenth, twenty twenty five, and as always with our

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Speaker 4: much beloved superproducer returning from adventures out west in the Territories.

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Speaker 4: He couldn't think of a better way to start tonight's

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Speaker 4: program than to learn a little bit about Ruda Bega's

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Speaker 4: Dylan if you could, yes.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sure you knew.

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Speaker 4: When I Bega, I could.

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Speaker 5: Shoot Wow, more Rude Bega than I could choose. That's

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Speaker 5: a mouthful.

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Speaker 2: I was really hoping you would, uh, you would try

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Speaker 2: and match the voice there, Dylan rue to Bega.

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Speaker 6: Dylan Dylan is uh tremendously gifted vocalist here and Dylan.

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Speaker 3: I gotta thank you man, first for.

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Speaker 4: Going with that weird idea, and second for being the

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Speaker 4: grown guy in the conversation who said, we don't need

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Speaker 4: to do the whole parody version.

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Speaker 5: Of the song, just get to just get to the

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Speaker 5: the matter.

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Speaker 6: We we do have the full here if you are interested.

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Speaker 3: That Sinatra.

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Speaker 4: They that was oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, big

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Speaker 4: Rudabiga fan of days of.

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Speaker 5: Your big energy from Sinati, right.

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Speaker 4: And we we are fans of yours, folks. We are

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Speaker 4: gonna hear from Faye, from Chef Ben, from Wayne Kevin.

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Speaker 4: And before we do any of that, we're gonna pause

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Speaker 4: for a word from our sponsors, and we'll get to

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Speaker 4: a conversation, an Avian discourse with our pal.

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Speaker 2: Sloth, and we'll be right back with sloughy.

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Speaker 5: And we have returned with slough. We haven't teasted enough. Boy,

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Speaker 5: oh boy, here it comes. He said. You know, actually

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Speaker 5: their name is not necessarily sloth, but they start the

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Speaker 5: email out with hey you guys and said to read

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Speaker 5: it as sloth. So I've just taken a little bit

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Speaker 5: of creative liberty and decided to bestow the nickname of

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Speaker 5: Sloth onto this individual.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to.

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Speaker 5: Read that, like Sloth I did. The Goonies is one

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Speaker 5: of those movies that I've seen like in pieces over

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Speaker 5: the correct order. So I need to do something about that,

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Speaker 5: because it's a fun movie. Sloth goes on. I've been

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Speaker 5: watching and listening to you for like thirteen years now.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for your service, Sloth, and for your time invested.

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Speaker 5: As Ben would say, time is the only currency that

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Speaker 5: we truly have even gotten the oldest to the point

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Speaker 5: very much, and part of the reason we try to

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Speaker 5: keep it pg. Thirteen. I'm trying to be linear with

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Speaker 5: my following, so sadly at this moment, I'm still stuck

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. I think we all are a

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Speaker 5: with lots of window time traveling to and from work now,

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Speaker 5: I'll get caught up. Anyways.

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Speaker 3: I always thought.

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Speaker 5: Noel was a bit nutty, how dare you when he

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Speaker 5: this meme had to share it. Keep up up the

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Speaker 5: great work, and said meme is as follows. It is

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Speaker 5: a infographic with three columns, and in column one we

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Speaker 5: have a little image of every planet in the Solar system.

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Speaker 5: the heading for that colm Column two is deaths. Column

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Speaker 5: three is has birds? Can you guys guess where this

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Speaker 5: every planet except for Earth, no birds. Earth has birds,

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Speaker 5: Are they onto something here? Should we wake up?

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Speaker 5: There, I've got it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's true. And uh, you know, I've always found

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Speaker 5: after being inspired by Sloth's email. We did recently discuss

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Speaker 5: on a previous Strange News episode the climate change implications

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Speaker 5: on migratory birds, Ben, I believe that was one that

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Speaker 5: the warning being that climate change is rapidly making the

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Speaker 5: We've got the Ecological Restoration Fund partnering with this organization

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely a herculean struggle, right, and it's uphill

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Speaker 4: that statement, but it is true. You've nailed it their nol.

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Speaker 4: As we discussed previously, human scientists are still trying to

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Speaker 4: which is super fascinating, but also due to the nature

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Speaker 4: you see the same thing with the mysterious eel. Due

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Speaker 4: to this human made rules and human systems require a

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Speaker 4: it's asking a lot for policymakers and for world leaders

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Speaker 4: to say, hey, I know we're fighting about everything else increasingly,

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Speaker 4: you know, water rights, but let's cooperate to make sure these.

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Speaker 3: Geese get home safe.

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Speaker 4: It's just unfortunately it's a low priority for a lot

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it would seem so. And it also obviously there

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Speaker 5: are positive climate activities that themselves can be a hazard

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Speaker 5: and we know those can cause real problems for migratory

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Speaker 5: Where I come to you from. In New York City,

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Speaker 5: new legislation from the New York City Council would ban

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Speaker 5: the sale of birds in pet stores city wide. A

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Speaker 5: council Member Diana Ayala this week. This would amend a

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Speaker 5: species such as parrots, finches, parakeets, cockatils, stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: and we'll still be able to sell birds. Only stores

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Speaker 5: in the city would be barred from displaying, selling, auctioning,

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Speaker 5: the president of Voters for Animal Rights at Taylor, who's

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Speaker 5: because I don't know, it's funny that a lot of

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Speaker 5: definitely have historically had this fear of birds. But I'm

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Speaker 5: really only half joking when I say that, through the

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Speaker 5: enjoyment of the board game Wingspan, I really have begun

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Speaker 5: to appreciate our avan brothers and sisters. Truly. Like it

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Speaker 5: sounds silly, but the way this game works, it teaches

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Speaker 5: my way to becoming a proper birder in New York City,

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Speaker 5: in Brooklyn in particular, there are some parks here where

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Speaker 5: birders are absolutely in heaven. I believe Prospect Park is one.

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Speaker 5: A friend of mine told me that that's a spot

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Speaker 5: I might get myself a pair of binoculars and get

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Speaker 5: to burden. But anyway, they respond, don't mess with the

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Speaker 5: birders exactly. Thanks Ben, You're absolutely right. But Ali Taylor,

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Speaker 5: migratory birds and how it is cruel to keep them

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Speaker 5: fly hundreds of miles every day. They're crossing rainforests, savannahs,

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Speaker 3: I just everything's legal in New Jersey, that's true.

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Speaker 5: A drop in the bucket. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did stumble on something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've talked about this for ridiculous history,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, ridiculous history. But we got deep into the

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Speaker 5: We a birdman of Alcatraz, right.

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Speaker 3: He owned he befriended.

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Speaker 5: What is happening? Saying what a daredevil?

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Speaker 3: It's a cool thing.

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Speaker 4: You love to see those stories that pop up, especially

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Speaker 3: In the Grand Canyon.

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Speaker 4: Back in those days when your editor was a lot

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Speaker 4: more into improv and just sort of yes, ANDed you

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Speaker 3: Would say as long as they sold the papers.

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Speaker 4: Look, birds are amazing, and they are not quite like

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Speaker 4: We are in global mass extinction event as we record.

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Speaker 4: But birds, I would say, especially the migratory ones, are

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Speaker 4: are there so many idioms like canary in a coal mine?

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Ben, and I do appreciate that point

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Speaker 5: this very morning in the Washington Post bird Lover's flock

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Speaker 5: to adopt parrot who is rated R Parental advisory required.

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Speaker 5: He says thank you, and you give him snacks, but

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Speaker 5: One day he will call you baby, and the next

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Speaker 2: I clicked on something that was clearly an ad, but

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Speaker 2: like a post, said Dice Legend going out of business.

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Speaker 2: Everything on sale zero dollars. Just pays shipping costs.

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Speaker 5: And I said, Dice, we're talking like like twelve sided dice,

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Speaker 2: Like twenties?

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Speaker 5: How is how many?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, all the sides.

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Speaker 2: So I said, oh my god, let me get in

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Speaker 5: It's too good to be true? If it seems too

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Speaker 5: So I did, just like the Columbia House deal, the

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Speaker 2: I did a little search and I found a couple

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Speaker 2: I didn't crack the conspiracy. It's just somebody's offloading really

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Speaker 2: cheaply made dice. And you know, I don't know.

438
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 4: A good friend of the show who plays Dungeons and

439
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 4: Dragons with Dylan and myself, a guy named Joe McCormick

440
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: from Stuff to Blow your mind. Uh, he got a

441
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Speaker 4: deal on a gigantic mason jar of a sortid die

442
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 4: and it's Uh, it's fascinating because I had no idea

443
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: what a big industry this is. For a lot of us,

444
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 4: this may be a somewhat familiar experience. A company you

445
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: don't know from a can of paint will offer you

446
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: a deal that, as he said, Matt, may seem a

447
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: little too good to be true. I ran into this

448
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 4: recently with some COVID communication devices. I cannot believe that's

449
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 4: a real sentence. But one way that this can happen

450
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 4: is that the item itself, this will be familiar to

451
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: anybody on say eBay, the item itself is of free

452
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: or of negligible cost, but the shipping is extravagant and

453
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: they're counting on you not to pay attention to the shipping.

454
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: And then the other more sith Lord side of it

455
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: is to obtain banking or financial details or maybe even

456
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 4: just your home address. Yeah, so it's probably something like that.

457
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Speaker 2: It feels like it. It's got a giant sign on

458
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Speaker 2: the top that says hurry up, sale ends in, and

459
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Speaker 2: it's got a counter that starts at sixteen minutes or

460
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Speaker 2: so every time you reload the website every time.

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Speaker 5: I will just say that I am often taken in

462
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Speaker 5: by appealing Instagram ads and nine times out of ten good,

463
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Speaker 5: but I have been taken by some like really poorly

464
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: printed T shirts for example, or like just just something

465
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 5: that was not as advertised. I ordered something that was

466
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 5: supposed to be a fully manipulatable lament configuration from the

467
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 5: hell Raiser movies, and it looks real cool, but the

468
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 5: pieces do not move, y'all. And in the video on

469
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Speaker 5: the ad, it was somebody moving it around and flipping

470
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Speaker 5: all the pieces like the puzzle box from the movie.

471
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Speaker 5: And it came and there are no movable joints in

472
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Speaker 5: this thing, so I would argue that's a bit of

473
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 5: a rip, but it still looks badass. But it was

474
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Speaker 5: a bit of a bait and switch.

475
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Speaker 3: Micro Whistle works awesome.

476
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 5: Heck yeah, it just took forever to gay awesome.

477
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Speaker 2: I really want that now.

478
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: It's way better than my natural accent.

479
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Speaker 5: Anything that you do see on Instagram or things like

480
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Speaker 5: that that ship through Shopify or a similar app like that,

481
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 5: you can usually rely on as being decent quality, something

482
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: that's like, you know, legit to just saying, don't be

483
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Speaker 5: completely turned off by the idea of getting things like

484
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Speaker 5: based on those ads, because sometimes they're really cool things.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just do do like you did, Matt.

486
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: Realize that caution is often the better part of valor

487
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: and get out of the act now, sandbox right, don't

488
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: let them psychologically push you, and just check on those

489
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: reviews because odds are Now, if you're seeing an ad,

490
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 4: you are not unique in seeing that ad.

491
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: You should always check right what what? What is? Somebody?

492
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: Reddit is actually really great for this. What do people

493
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 4: on Reddit say when they bought that jacket? Or what

494
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: did they say when they applied for Let me pull

495
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 4: up a sponsored ad, an easy way to this is

496
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: what I got today, an easy way to gain residents

497
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 4: in Paraguay. What do we know about that country? My

498
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: sponsored ads are getting super weird.

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Speaker 5: Now, sorry, guys. Last thing I just wanted to say.

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Speaker 5: I have recently been getting a lot of texts that

501
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: are exactly the language from Scam Factory that we talked

502
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: to Denise Chan, the incredible creator and host of that show,

503
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 5: about exactly the same type of language, talking about pay

504
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 5: ranging from five hundred hundred dollars a day, almost the

505
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: exact same setup, and saying things like oh, I found

506
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: you through a recruiter, and I had not been getting

507
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 5: those in the past. So just guys, be careful. Scams

508
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: are very real, and some of them are are going

509
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 5: to take more than your money.

510
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's not a scam If you happen

511
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: to be rolling through certain parts of our great country here, guys,

512
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: you stop to get some gas, fill up the old car,

513
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: and you walk inside and there's actually a bar in there.

514
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: That's not actually a scam. I thought it could be,

515
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: but it's not, at least.

516
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Speaker 5: In the gas stations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this stood out to be too.

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Speaker 2: Cool, at least according to our listener Faye.

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Speaker 8: Hey, y'all, this is Fay. I was listening to y'all

520
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 8: current episode about gas stations, and I thought it was

521
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Speaker 8: really funny because you guys are debating currently about how

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Speaker 8: gas stations don't serve alcohol. I'm from western North Carolina

523
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 8: and there's a gas station out in the var that

524
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 8: serves alcohol like it's a whole, Like there's a bar there.

525
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 8: They have a bar at a gas station, and everybody

526
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 8: knows you need to go to get pizza and some

527
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 8: drinks and chill. It's right by the river. But it

528
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 8: started out as a gas station and then morph into

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Speaker 8: the bar. But there is a place in western North

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Speaker 8: Carolina where you can crack the cold line on the

531
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Speaker 8: premises or they'll pour you a cold line. You can

532
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 8: buy your six packs and go on the porch and

533
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Speaker 8: start drinking. So I don't know what it's like in

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Speaker 8: the cities, but out here in the hallers, our gas

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Speaker 8: stations are our bars. Well, thanks, guys, and you can

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Speaker 8: use this if you want. I call y'all all the

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Speaker 8: time and I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 6: Bye, awesome, Okay, see you there.

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Speaker 5: Faith, Thanks for the tell you there.

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Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: So look, guys, I don't know if I located the

542
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: exact one that Fay is talking about, but I did

543
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: find a place called Riverside Bar in Pizga Forest, is

544
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Speaker 2: how you say that? And I was looking all around

545
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: trying to find a gas station that just you know, says,

546
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Speaker 2: at least on Google Maps when you search it up,

547
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: hey we have a bar here too and gas, and

548
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: it's great, but I couldn't. I did, however, find three

549
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: particular places in somewhat western North Carolina that I want

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Speaker 2: to shout out because they just fit the bill perfectly.

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Speaker 2: The first one is called the Brew Pump. It is

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Speaker 2: in fact a gas station in Asheville, North Carolina, and

553
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: it is also a bar restaurant, which is kind of cool.

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00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: There's also the old Haywood filling Station out in Mills River,

556
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Speaker 2: North Carolina. That one seems just super cool. And finally,

557
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: the Mountain River tap Room in Fletcher, North Carolina that

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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: appears to have gas and a bar.

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Speaker 3: I think that's look.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are gonna say that's problematic, right,

561
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Speaker 4: because a gas station is directly associated with operating operating

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00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: a motor vehicle. But also, you know, we did point

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00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: out that a lot of gas stations already sell packaged alcohol.

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00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: So where's the line there?

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Speaker 4: You know, are they near hotels matt or are they

566
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Speaker 4: near like places where people could walk to sleep.

567
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't know. But I mean again,

569
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Speaker 2: any any establishment that is selling alcohol like that, you

570
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: gotta imagine there's a ton of risk there. That's why

571
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: designated drivers exist. All of us who have taken up

572
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: the mantle and said I shall drive this eve. We're

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00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: doing God's work out there.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

575
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 4: I love it, you know, for some reason, when it's

576
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: not like your full time job, when it's an act,

577
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: the voluntary heroism, you get that little shine to your

578
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 4: soul on.

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00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: It, right, that's right, that is right. And honestly, the

580
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: pictures are beautiful. On some of these, there's an exon.

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00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: It's got exon gas, so it's exon. We talked about

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Speaker 2: this in our episode on gas stations. Xon's company, the

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00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: gas company that's providing the gas there. But then the

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Speaker 2: other part of it, where the convenience store would be.

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00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: That's all separate thing like at the brew pump. But

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: it's funny to see a big old shell sign out

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00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: there with a bunch of people hanging out just enjoy

588
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: and brew.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if there's a service station attached to these

590
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 4: as well, because now I'm constructing my own kind of

591
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 4: like headcannon origin story. Let's say we've got this amazing mechanic,

592
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 4: maybe he's the owner, operator or she or what you know,

593
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: and and eventually they they get in a fight at

594
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 4: the at the local bar and they say, screw you,

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Speaker 4: you guys, I'm going to build a bar of my

596
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 4: own at my job. I'm so tired of, you know,

597
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: walk it up the street to you all. So here

598
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: by the way, if you come in and you need

599
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: your oil change, you know, grab a beer while you're

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00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: at it, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, well remind you too. In Atlanta, I mean, I'm

602
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 5: sure this is the case in other places. I'm certain

603
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: it is, but there are a handful of Kroger locations

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Speaker 5: that have a proper tap room connected to them. You know,

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00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 5: they actually jokingly in Atlanta, we sort of have like

606
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: shorthand for the different Krogers. There used to be, of course,

607
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 5: the famous Murder Kroger, which they tried very desperately to rebrand,

608
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: but one was called Crowbar, and that was again these

609
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: are just locals calling it that, But that was the

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Speaker 5: one that had like a whole, you know, bar situation

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Speaker 5: in the back. So I don't see how, at least

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00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: regulation wise, it's that different. As we mentioned too, grocery

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Speaker 5: store chains often have gas stations as well connected to them.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the crowbar on glen Wood Avenue in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: That's the lamp.

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Speaker 2: They call it the crowbar.

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Speaker 6: They do, they leaned into it because I think it

618
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 6: started as a local shorthand that's funny.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know they didn't, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're careful about what they what they adopt, right,

621
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Speaker 4: and they like Kroger. Kroger chain really took it on

622
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: the chin when they were trying to rename Murder Kroger

623
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Speaker 4: to Beltline Kroger.

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00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: You guys know, he's lived very.

625
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: Very close to there, and the local population just didn't

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00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: accept it. So maybe they learned a lesson and decided

627
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: to lean into crowbar. The disco Kroger as it was

628
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: called in Buckhead also started to lean into those Appalachians

629
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: apple Machian appalations. I'm going to use that phrase for something,

630
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: I just don't know what yet, but fae, that's awesome.

631
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Speaker 4: We've got to learn more about gas station bars. I'm

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00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: kind of ethically on the fence. I just feel like

633
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: I have a lot of questions about this. Imagine musco

634
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: state by state dat aside. This is a great way

635
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: to make money, you know what I mean? So too

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00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: total income streams.

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00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much Fay for sending us that message.

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00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: But speaking of ethical quandaries, we're gonna play a really

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Speaker 2: quick message from the returning champion, Chef Ben. I call

641
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: it that because I've at least been using a lot

642
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: of his messages, so it's not favoritism. Chef Ben just

643
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: always chimes in with the bangers. So here here is

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00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: another one. Oh, parental advisory for this. He doesn't use

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00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: language that is upsetting. It's just some of the concepts

646
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: that might go into your mind after listening to his

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Speaker 2: message may not be for kids. So here we go.

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Speaker 2: Parental advisory.

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Speaker 7: Chef Ben Fellos, Good morning, Chef Ben and Chicago. As always,

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Speaker 7: feel free to use this on your lovely show if

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Speaker 7: you find this to be titillating in any sense. Again,

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Speaker 7: catching up on pack episodes. Doing a lot of driving

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Speaker 7: these days with my new job, so I'm three years behind,

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Speaker 7: but I did just listen to your neuralink episode. The

655
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 7: first thing that popped into my head about that is,

656
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Speaker 7: I wonder how far away from those things generating a

657
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 7: local network really is. Right, So, like they would talk

658
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 7: directly to each other via proximity. Right instantly, my brain

659
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Speaker 7: get my brain goes to military applications of that. If

660
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Speaker 7: you've got a squadron that are all neuralink to each other,

661
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 7: there's no need for hand signals or radio commands or

662
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Speaker 7: any of that. They're just talking directly to each other

663
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Speaker 7: through their brains. If that sounds like the borg from

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Speaker 7: Star Trek, Yeah, that's what direct we're going. So that

665
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 7: was my first thought. Now I am also like nearly

666
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 7: a professional dirt bag. So here was my second thought,

667
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Speaker 7: and this one, maybe there is a benefit to humanity

668
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 7: in this potential technology. Let's say you've got the neuralink.

669
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Speaker 7: Let's say your romantic partner has the neuralink and you

670
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 7: take your romantic partner to Poundtown. Amazing benefit there potentially

671
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 7: sure to be able to at least partially join with

672
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Speaker 7: your romantic partner in receiving some of their sensations during

673
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 7: your trip to Poundtown. What you're trying something new, man,

674
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 7: don't like trying something new. You'll know right away if

675
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 7: it's having the desired effect or not.

676
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 6: Right.

677
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 7: Uh, we're all all about instant gratification these days. Anyway,

678
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 7: that's the next step. That would be the way. That's

679
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 7: the way to get to that, you know, if the

680
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 7: thing you're doing is working. So that's my thought. I

681
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 7: went directly from neuralink, which sounds weird, to Boord to Poundtown.

682
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 7: You're welcome, thanks for shuttling me around Chicago, fellas.

683
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: Take it demolition man first reference. Oh yeah, would they

684
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: have sex? And demolition man ideal when they do something

685
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: very much like neurallyin, but they don't have physical activity.

686
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: So Chef, it's always great to hear from you. I

687
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: got to recuse myself because I'm cartoonishly pro.

688
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Speaker 5: Bit, y'all. It really does remind me of the episode

689
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: of Black Mirror Striking Vipers, where I believe someone is

690
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 5: able to gender swap and engage in virtual sex in

691
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: very interesting ways that impact their actual real life relationships

692
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 5: because they kind of can't function anymore outside of this

693
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 5: neuralinky kind of augmented reality situation. It does address some

694
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Speaker 5: of the things that Chef Ben was talking about. I

695
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 5: do recommend checking that one out. It's season seven, episode four, amazing.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to play that because I enjoyed the

697
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Speaker 2: way Chef Ben navigated talking about all of those things

698
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Speaker 2: together in Without Downtown, Well, specifically the way he described

699
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Speaker 2: the act of loves.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I agree, Chef Ben's the best.

701
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Speaker 2: There we go. Hey, well that's it for now. Thank you, Faye,

702
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, Chef Ben. We'll be right back with more

703
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: messages from you.

704
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Speaker 4: And we have returned a little peak behind the curtain,

705
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: friends and neighbors, fellow conspiracy realist. We record our Strange

706
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 4: news and listener mail segments on Wednesdays typically, and as

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Speaker 4: we're recording on Wednesday, July second, twenty twenty five, a

708
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Speaker 4: for our weekly listener mail segment that will publish on

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Speaker 4: the tenth of July. And here's what happened. And it

710
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: happened just a few minutes ago as we were hearing

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00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 4: from Fay. As of noon local time, we are closer

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00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: to the year twenty to fifty than we are to

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Speaker 4: the year two thousand. Jeez, the times.

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Speaker 3: I don't make people do things. Kevin, as he would say,

715
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Speaker 3: the Devil's Advocate. It's its own thing, but the.

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Speaker 4: This is this is one of those fascinating things, at

717
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Speaker 4: least on my end, I wanted to share with all

718
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Speaker 4: of us tonight because between the year two thousand and

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00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: noon today July second, there are eight thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 4: and sixty days from two thousand and one to twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. It's a weird milestone. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: we do with it. It's the kind of thing that

723
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: would interest our pals at Mental Floss or aj Bahamas Jacobs,

724
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: the legend. It's just it's strange. And I was looking

725
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 4: into this because I remember a previous episode or maybe

726
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: just a conversation held about the nineteen nineties and how

727
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 4: far away that was right nineteen ninety is now Gosh,

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Speaker 4: people born in nineteen ninety are.

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Speaker 5: Thirty five. God, oh god, you're doing it again. Then no, no,

730
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Speaker 5: it's me, it's me.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, just so for my perspective personally, I

732
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Speaker 4: just wanted to share that, and I hope everybody feels

733
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Speaker 4: maybe inspired. If you're hearing this, you've made it this

734
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 4: far and can't wait to have some more new strange

735
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: math in twenty fifty At which point we hope that

736
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 4: podcasts are still being made somewhat by humans. With that, Nope,

737
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: why possibly right, or maybe our ghost will will be

738
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Speaker 4: part of it. With that, we wanted to share a

739
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Speaker 4: message from you.

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Speaker 3: Kevin.

741
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Speaker 4: You gave us the go ahead to share your message.

742
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna end up pitching you some cool official nicknames

743
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: or monikers at this, but first let's let's share what

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00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: you wrote. You said Hello. First, let me say that

745
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 4: I love your show. Thank you, Kevin. The way you

746
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: take seriously sometimes absurd claims and dive into the unknown

747
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: is delightful. Oh my gosh, keep going. We love validation.

748
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: Stop go please, so Kevin, you continue, you say more importantly,

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00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 4: I have a suggestion for a show. The West Virginia

750
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: Mine Wars where the Battle of Blair Mountain. If you

751
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 4: are not familiar, this was the result of an organizing

752
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: push over one hundred years ago in West Virginia and

753
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Speaker 4: ended with all out warfare between miners, m I n

754
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: ers and the companies supported by the US military, which

755
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: even used planes to bomb these miners. It has a

756
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: lot of random connections to other things. Sid Hatfield of

757
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 4: the Hatfield McCoy's feud was killed during it. Mother Jones

758
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 4: was involved, not the magazine, the person, the historical figure

759
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: that the magazine's named after. Kevin, you continue, you say

760
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: there was also a literal attempt to remove this from

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Speaker 4: the history books of West Virginia. The governor of West

762
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: Virginia fought with the WPA to have it removed from

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Speaker 4: the history of the state. And then Kevin, you go

764
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Speaker 4: on to mention the fantastic West Virginia Mine Wars Museum.

765
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: We love a specific museum, and you sign off with

766
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: hope you like this idea. So with that, but before

767
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: we dive in, I gotta be honest. I think this

768
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: is a full episode. We just need to figure out

769
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Speaker 4: what show we want it on. Have either of you

770
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: guys heard about this incident before.

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Speaker 2: It's new to me.

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00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 5: No, But when you first said it, I pictured it

773
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Speaker 5: as the Mine Wars, which sounds terrifying and amazing, but

774
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: not what's going on here? But please do tell.

775
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so.

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Speaker 4: This is the at the time, it's the largest armed

777
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: uprising we could call it since the Civil War. This

778
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: happens from August to September of nineteen twenty one. It's

779
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: pretty short. It's like late August August twenty fifth to

780
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Speaker 4: September two. But it fundamentally rocks the nation's understanding of itself.

781
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: It evolves worker rights, it involves, you know, the powers

782
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: of monopolies and government suppression. We're talking like ten thousand

783
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Speaker 4: coal miners who strapped up and got armed because they

784
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: were tired of the horrific conditions they were forced to

785
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Speaker 4: work in. And earlier I did say miners with an E,

786
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: but the way child labor laws functioned at the time,

787
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: a lot of these miners were probably under age as well.

788
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Speaker 4: These ten thousand, the small army of miners, they beef

789
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 4: up with three thousand strike breakers, and then that number

790
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 4: also includes local authorities. A lot of this comes about

791
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: because the miners were attempting to unionize, and you know,

792
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: the US has always had a complicated relationship with unions.

793
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Speaker 4: It reminds me of I don't know this. This story

794
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: might sound like an interesting historical footnote if not for

795
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: what Kevin pointed out, the concerted efforts to the powers

796
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Speaker 4: that be to remove this story from history. And it

797
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: seems like it's pretty effective. Right, Like, if you're outside

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Speaker 4: of West Virginia or you're not like some of our

799
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 4: other pals deep into studying the history of unions.

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Speaker 3: You might never hear of this. There's a reason it's

801
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: not in your textbook.

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Speaker 2: I realized I have heard of this before, guys. I

803
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: I was doing research on this thing called the Molly mcguires,

804
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: which oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a secret society. But it

805
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: was much earlier than this, than this event in West Virginia.

806
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: But it was specifically about organizing within communities of right

807
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: and then having this kind of secret society thing going

808
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: on in the background where you could fight back against

809
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Speaker 2: the establishment a little bit.

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Speaker 4: And was to be clear, I love that you're bringing

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00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: that up, Matt. To be clear, the secrecy was absolutely necessary.

812
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 4: The conspiracies were real. The companies controlling mining in particular

813
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 4: at this point, and to a lesser degree even now,

814
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 4: they had compromised the legal structure of the United States.

815
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Speaker 4: So if you are maybe too much of a union leader,

816
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 4: forget getting fired, you could they beat the tar out

817
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: of you war then they would just kill you, you

818
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean, maybe your family as well. So

819
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: these are very very high stake things, and the conversation

820
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: about the concept of workers' rights and unions has been

821
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: so heavily politicized, especially in recent decades. Right that the

822
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 4: U word feels like depending on your personal framework, the

823
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 4: U word can feel like a curse word at.

824
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Speaker 3: Times, like saying poundtown for instance. Right. But the.

825
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: Reason it's important to remember this sort of stuff is

826
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: that it directly informs pretty much everything you enjoy if

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Speaker 4: you work in the United States today. Like the reason

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00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: you have some days off, it's unions. Right, The reason

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00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 4: there are certain holidays are also unions. Like this is

830
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Speaker 4: how effective the cover up has been. Remember the formation

831
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: of Labor Day. A lot of people growing up now

832
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 4: in the modern United States, I'll include myself in that number,

833
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: incorrectly assumed that Labor Day was not about workers' rights,

834
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Speaker 4: but was just like commemorating the incredibly difficult experience of

835
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Speaker 4: being a mom going through labor total. I thought it

836
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: was like another version of Mother's Day. You know, I

837
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: could get behind that.

838
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 5: I could too.

839
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 4: It's not I'm not the brightest crayon in the box,

840
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: but I do feel like that's a reasonable assumption. And

841
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 4: so I come to you guys humbly here with this idea,

842
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 4: should we do a full episode on this? I think

843
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 4: it's stuff they don't want you to know, and it's

844
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: stuff more people should know, especially now.

845
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: I feel like, didn't we talk about minds on the show,

846
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Speaker 2: like pretty extensively in some episode.

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00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: We definitely did, because of just the absolute brutal conditions

848
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 5: and so many of the deaths and black lung disease

849
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 5: and all of that stuff, and the fact that that

850
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: was an industry that really did lead to a lot

851
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: of labor movements because of its inherent, you know, brutality.

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00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 5: I'm certain we did talk about it maybe in the

853
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 5: history of labor movements, but this specific topic I think

854
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 5: might be worth it.

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00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's plenty here.

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna so that sounds like a unanimous vote here, guys.

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Speaker 2: It was the Ludlow massa when he talked about the

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Speaker 2: masker back in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: You can find that, yeah, and that is related in

860
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: the same milieu. But the Battle of Blair Mountain, I

861
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: think can be its own standalone thing. So we want

862
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: to hear about that. We want to hear always about

863
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: cover ups and moments where the powers that be attempted

864
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 4: to erase history. You could argue with that in the

865
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: age of information, it's more difficult to stop the signal,

866
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: as they say in Serenity recently rewatched Banger, But it

867
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 4: turns out as counterintuitive as it may sound, there's a

868
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 4: solid argument that it's easier now to erase history. It's

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Speaker 4: easier to change the presence understanding of the past. Heady stuff.

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Speaker 4: Heady stuff, folks. We're so grateful that you are with

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Speaker 4: us on this journey. We've got one last thing as

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Speaker 4: we're wrapping up here, and it is from our pal Wayne. Wayne,

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Speaker 4: you say I'm super behind on my podcast. Work has

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Speaker 4: gotten busier. Congratulations, by the way, so I can't jam

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Speaker 4: out to your velvety tones as much as I'd like.

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Speaker 4: I'll catch up eventually, but I wanted to share some

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Speaker 4: random thoughts I had recently. Other possible meanings the acronym

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Speaker 4: st d WYTK, show them danger, warn your trusted kid,

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Speaker 4: send the data? Would you take knowledge? Those are just

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Speaker 4: two great acronyms to send us on our way, I think,

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Speaker 4: So tell us your favorite acronyms, tell us your favorite

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Speaker 4: stories of hidden history, your neurolink demolition Man experiences. Please

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Speaker 4: do rewatch demolition Man and put a link to that

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Speaker 4: weird love scene I mentioned.

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Speaker 6: Sea shells, right, sea shells. That's that's the poop part,

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Speaker 6: which is also ageless and increasingly relevant.

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Speaker 4: As anybody who's met a Japanese toilet, we'll understand.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I never met a Japanese toilet. I didn't

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Speaker 5: like that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Guys, kind of do a shameless plug really fast, just

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Speaker 2: really fast. We're talking about Serenity and Firefly in that series.

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Speaker 2: If you are, if you're a fan of those things,

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Speaker 2: get ready because this summer coming to a podcast near you.

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Speaker 2: Listen to the show Havoc Town that's coming out in August.

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Speaker 2: It stars Jewels State as one of the main characters

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Speaker 2: in that who played Kaylee on Serenity and Firefly.

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Speaker 5: I love Kaylee. What a great series. Can't wait to

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Speaker 5: hear that, Matt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Havoc Town's going to be a banger. Full disclosure,

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Speaker 4: we are met matter you ep on that show.

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Speaker 2: Everyone of the Manky Verse World series.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and our good friend, the legendary Nick Takowski I

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Speaker 4: believe is involved as well writer director. Yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah, And he's not paying us to say that.

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Speaker 4: We are actual fans, so check that out. Thank you

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Speaker 4: to and Manky. Thank you to Nick. Thank you to

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Speaker 4: you Matt. Thanks also again to Kevin Twayne de chef

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Speaker 4: beIN de Fay and to Sloth. Hey you guys, if

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Speaker 4: you want to be part of the show, why not

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Speaker 4: join you up with us for our weekly listener mail segment.

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Speaker 3: You can always find us online.

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Speaker 5: Why not top off your social needs at the hand

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Speaker 5: there's more.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we have a phone number that goes to a

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Speaker 2: voicemail system. Please call it and give us your take

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Speaker 2: one eight three three std WYTK. When you call in,

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Speaker 2: the message if we can use your name and message

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Speaker 2: on the air. If you'd like to send us words, pictures, links,

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Speaker 2: anything of the sort, why not instead send us an email.

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Speaker 4: We are the entities that read each piece of correspondence

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Speaker 4: we receive, be well aware yet unafraid. Sometimes the void

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Speaker 4: writes back, uh. Following up on our conversation with Wayne,

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Speaker 4: we might we might talk about this later.

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Speaker 3: But hey, Wayne, this is for you.

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Speaker 4: A little quote from our friends are half Baked. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna take your little Mexican friend here and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: kill him.

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Speaker 3: Yo, I'm cubanb ha.

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Speaker 4: Yes, cubanbe, Cuban be Conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.

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Speaker 2: Stuff they Don't Want You to Know is a production

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