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Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 1: So I'm getting a dog in a week. You had

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Speaker 1: to be close, right, So I'm I'm getting a dog

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Speaker 1: in a week. Um. I'm so excited because I feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm like ready now to have a dog. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, I think you're ready. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: great with dogs. I love dogs. I've had dogs my

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Speaker 1: entire life. I mean I I had Sandy when I

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Speaker 1: was Jolie's age. No, I was Cocoa was Jolie's age,

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Speaker 1: and then now and then I had you know, my dogs.

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Speaker 1: I had both dogs like Sophie Dog Like, shoot, my

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Speaker 1: my band guys are paid from Sophie Dog Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: so um so I um yeah, no, I'm just like

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited because it was hard in the very

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Speaker 1: beginning too. I didn't want to separate the dogs. It's

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Speaker 1: like Waffles was my dog, Chance was Mike's dog, and

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Speaker 1: for me, I was kind of like, all right, I

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Speaker 1: have seventy kids, and he's like, well, we can just

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Speaker 1: like trade off the dogs. And then I'm like I

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Speaker 1: don't want seventy kids and seventy dogs like I And

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Speaker 1: that was like when I couldn't like take care of myself.

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Speaker 1: And like the first month of like the divorce, so

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's the last thing. Like we tried

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Speaker 1: it for a week and I'm like I can't do it,

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Speaker 1: like you have to take because like the dogs. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm like falling apart. The kids are falling, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just the dogs. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if I've fed them for a week, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I mean I did, but you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like they probably didn't have water

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Speaker 1: like one full day because I just couldn't even think

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Speaker 1: about them. Dogs just add as much as we love them,

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Speaker 1: they just add another element that just makes your life

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Speaker 1: a little bit difficult. As much as I love them,

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Speaker 1: I have three, So don't come at me. Wait, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing with your divorce and the dogs? Well,

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Speaker 1: in theory, mostly the older bulldog is going to go

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Speaker 1: back and forth because he is attached to Emmy and

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Speaker 1: Emmy is attached to him. I don't know how that's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's just the other two. I don't know how that.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're keeping the other one, Macy, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: she's so old, poor thing, like she can't go that

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Speaker 1: surprises me. Well, I don't really have it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we all have choices, Kathe, Well, the reason I don't

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Speaker 1: really have a choice is because he's renting and they

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Speaker 1: didn't really want dogs anyway, and she sheds really bad,

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Speaker 1: so that would not be very good. But she's easy.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of this totally makes me think of something.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, we got another leopard,

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Speaker 1: Get go. Oh my god. Okay, so we have a leopard,

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Speaker 1: Get go, Get go. Skippy love we love Skippy, least

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Speaker 1: maintenance pet of all time. Yeah, they're so easy. But

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Speaker 1: the agreement was that Skippy would I don't know kids

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Speaker 1: who knows, I honestly don't know, um, but that Skippy

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Speaker 1: would go with Nick okay, because he will only eat cricket.

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Speaker 1: Worms are easy. Crickets I don't really do. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: a long story short. Worms you'll do crickets you want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: worms are easy because they're like, you keep them cold

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Speaker 1: so they barely to move until they get in there,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, you know, it's like a dead worm.

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Speaker 1: Crickets are like all over the place if you like,

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Speaker 1: we'll find them on Caden's wall. But anyway, so that

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Speaker 1: was the agreement. He's like, yeah, that's great. He loves Skippy,

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Speaker 1: he's easy. Whatever, that's fine. Skippy can come here. Fast

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Speaker 1: forward like a week and we're like, all right, well

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Speaker 1: we're going to get another leopard get go for my house. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so because you just love Skippy so much, or because

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Speaker 1: the kids love Skippy so much, or like both kind

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Speaker 1: of both. And they're easy. Again, they're not expensive, they're easy.

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Speaker 1: Where where does find a get go? Well, we just

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Speaker 1: go to pet smart. You can find them all over

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Speaker 1: the place, but they're like thirty bucks at pet Smart.

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Speaker 1: We save them from pet Smart. So anyway you save them.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's gonna go after you like I am,

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Speaker 1: like if anyone thinks they're gonna come after me, like

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Speaker 1: I'm breeding, like I'm going to a breeder, Like I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's I don't think there's rescue geckos. Well

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Speaker 1: this is what makes emmy feel better, situation my, you know.

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Speaker 1: So any who, fast forward we go and get another one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Skippy hasn't really hasn't hadn't left yet, but it's fine

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Speaker 1: because they're easy. Is the new gecko's name, jis no

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Speaker 1: his friends naming his j that's because of it. No,

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Speaker 1: heyn miss sun chime you but listen to this. So

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Speaker 1: I posted on Instagram. I know he's listening to this,

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Speaker 1: but sorry Nick, oh he listens you think? Yeah? Still? Yeah? Hello?

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Speaker 1: So I post on Instagram, which we already kind of

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Speaker 1: told him we're gonna do it, and he was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a bad idea, but whatever decision because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So Catherine is wired up right now. He texts Cayden

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Speaker 1: and he's like, what did y'all do? Basically? And he

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Speaker 1: was like, I wish y'all would have ran a run

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Speaker 1: it past me? But okay, I was like run what

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Speaker 1: past you? Getting sunshine? Yeah? Why first? Like big? Like

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Speaker 1: not doing so well the moment. Caden's like, don't text

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Speaker 1: him because I don't want him to get mad at me.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, definitely won't. Why would you say

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Speaker 1: something like no? No? I want like, like, can you

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Speaker 1: can tell me what they said about me? I want

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Speaker 1: to texting me like how the why would you say

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Speaker 1: that about me? Like not something that has to be

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Speaker 1: run by you. He's like, well, you leave town all

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Speaker 1: the time, and I'm like, and you have like eight pets,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, um, it's still the same amount you're taking, Skippy,

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Speaker 1: I have sunshine, Like I have to get a house

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Speaker 1: sitter anyway, you know. Anyway, I just lost my mind.

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Speaker 1: And then it moved into like, you know, all the

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Speaker 1: figuring out money, and it went just great. Wow. I'm

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Speaker 1: first of all, I'm shocked for sharing this a little no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's a it's a it's interesting that because

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Speaker 1: it's about control, right, which I didn't think he was

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Speaker 1: really like a control person, but he lost control, right,

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Speaker 1: And so when someone loses control in a divorce, you

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Speaker 1: see where they are like kind of going to put

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Speaker 1: their hands in because you're right, you didn't, you do not.

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Speaker 1: And I did not have to tell Mike that I

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Speaker 1: was getting a dog. I did just because like, hey,

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Speaker 1: if the kids mentioned Leo like I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: a puppy, and he's like, oh my god, that's so awesome,

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Speaker 1: like so happy for you. Um so like, but I

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Speaker 1: don't need his permission. You do not need Knick's permission

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Speaker 1: to get running it by get go nor a pig,

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Speaker 1: a dog or a donkey. Do you know what I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do after that? What literally like a monkey,

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Speaker 1: Like you know what, take that monkey and any shove

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Speaker 1: it up your ass. I'm gonna believe it. That is.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know someone's reasoning, like why, Like

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Speaker 1: I I couldn't imagine calling my ax and saying like

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Speaker 1: you can't, how dare you get goldfish? Because that to me,

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Speaker 1: even like a cat, Like I thought for sure Mike

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Speaker 1: was going to get a cat because I can't have

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Speaker 1: cats because my whole entire family is allergic to them,

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Speaker 1: and like my my mom's husband could never come, so

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Speaker 1: we were going to get a cat. We ended not

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Speaker 1: getting cats. I'm like, oh, I bet you, Mike's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get them like a kitten or something. And because

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Speaker 1: Joey has been like begging and like a little part

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Speaker 1: of me was like a little jealous thinking about it. Um,

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Speaker 1: but I can't control it. I don't think it's his jealousy.

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Speaker 1: Then what is that? What is it? Then? Like what

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Speaker 1: is the what is the like rational rationalization behind his

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Speaker 1: issue with it? I think let's call him. I would

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Speaker 1: love to know. I think he still sees it more

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Speaker 1: like not as separate is it gonna be? And so

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Speaker 1: he still kind of sees it as like a family

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Speaker 1: in a way. And that's why I'm kind of like marrying.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get this legal process going, like I needed

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Speaker 1: to be separated at no offense. It's just like that's

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Speaker 1: not how I function. He's being a sweet man by

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Speaker 1: being like, you know, he thinks it's gonna fall on

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Speaker 1: him end of the day. He thinks I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: him and say, hey, can you take a responsibility more? No,

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Speaker 1: that's what they have to pay for them. You can

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Speaker 1: ask like I would. I would never ask Mike too,

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Speaker 1: but I'm like, if I got into a hunch, you

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Speaker 1: can always ask, and they have a right to say no. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I just got a sitter a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: does it again. It's going to be the same amount

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Speaker 1: of pets. But when I get the monkey, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be calling him. Oh my gosh, that's just so funny.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's why I said to you the

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Speaker 1: other day, like, you guys have been amazing through this

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Speaker 1: divorce process. Like you guys have been so good and

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Speaker 1: letting things and co parenting. Everything's been great. Like actually,

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Speaker 1: how it's been the last. However, many guys have been

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Speaker 1: You've been doing this for a long time, but it's

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Speaker 1: almost like you sometimes have to do like the legality

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Speaker 1: It's separate because it's like almost like the two kosher

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Speaker 1: a sense. We're hitting that point. We're definitely hitting that point.

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Speaker 1: We kind of had a you know, we're working on

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Speaker 1: the legal stuff. It's not going to great as a

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Speaker 1: lot it would, but we'll get there. But that's because

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Speaker 1: the emotions are still there and you're still and because

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Speaker 1: it's run so smooth. It's like, unfortunately there's illegal. There's

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Speaker 1: a legal um portion for a reason because the law

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Speaker 1: is going to protect both of you, just like the law,

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Speaker 1: yeah there, it's going to protect both of you, guys.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes it's doesn't. But yes, and I am learning

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Speaker 1: that how I say things is definitely triggers and I'm trying.

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Speaker 1: I've been so good, but I made the mistake of

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Speaker 1: saying what I'm owed as like being in a marriage

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years, and that did not go over well.

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Speaker 1: But what I meant was, when you calculate, it's based

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Speaker 1: on how long you're married, looking at mirror right there,

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Speaker 1: this one, but anyway, maybe you can say that all

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Speaker 1: my time. If if you're so, alimony is based on

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Speaker 1: how long you're married, you're going to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more or for a longer length of time, the

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Speaker 1: longer you're married. Um, so that's what I was trying

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Speaker 1: based on the amount of time we were married. But

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Speaker 1: it came back with what you're owed from being married,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, who I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 1: But that just where it went out for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I could see that, I mean, I get both sides

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Speaker 1: for sure. And let me just say this too. You

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Speaker 1: don't have to like I always say, like, well, I

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Speaker 1: have to be nice, and my amy our therapist always like,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to. You don't have to manage his

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Speaker 1: emotions about how you say you shouldn't be mean and like,

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Speaker 1: but like, you don't have to. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: we had family healths ruggles going on, It had to

420
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: do with money and pressures of career and all and

421
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: and so the things that were said had nothing to

422
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: do with what we were actually fighting about. The analogy

423
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: that we I make is it's like when you walk

424
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: through uh and you see it when you're walking on

425
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: the sidewalk and you see cracks in the sidewalk, that's

426
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: because the tree roots, right, the roots caused this problem.

427
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: You just see the crack here, you just see your

428
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: broken sidewalk, But it's because of the stuff that's underneath there.

429
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: So that that's the one that comes up for us

430
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, that's so interesting that you said that.

431
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: And I love that analogy too with the cracks and

432
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: the and the cement, because it's so true. It's like

433
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just the crack and the cement,

434
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: it's it's what's underneath that. Yeah. I love that, Like

435
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: that's such a great way to look at it. And

436
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: it's so funny too. Remember with my ex husband and I,

437
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: one of our biggest fights was it was it was

438
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: we were fighting over a lamp and it was like

439
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: it was not about the lamp, you know, it was

440
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't about that lamp at all. It was just

441
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, well I would just drain the lamp off,

442
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it's it was just it

443
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: was like at the end of the day, it was

444
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: like we end up laughing about it. Um, you know,

445
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: six months later, but we're like, remember that time we

446
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 1: fought about a lamp. It's like, it wasn't about the lamp.

447
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: But people just get stuck. I can't I can't think

448
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 1: of a better synopsis of relationship fights than that quote.

449
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: It's not about the lamp. We're obviously not fighting about

450
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,239
Speaker 1: the lamp. We're fighting up about the history and the

451
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: tension and everything that's happening right now and that's leading

452
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: up into this moment right here. But I will fight

453
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: over a lamp, There's no doubt about that. We've had

454
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: lamp fight not that long ago. We've had lamp fights.

455
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: You know. It's another Another good fight that I've heard

456
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: is men and their ceiling fans. Like a man wants

457
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: to have a ceiling fan, a woman wants to have

458
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: a chandelier. It's like, that's actually a fight that's actually

459
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: that's not just about the underneath stuff that is just

460
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: like is that for you to like, why do men

461
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: have to have a ceiling fan? Yeah? I don't know

462
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: what it is. That is a great question. I guess

463
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: it's just they need something to tinker with their like

464
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: just something or or there were were you know, it's

465
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: something to like look at something when we get bored

466
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: to just I will say that one of the one

467
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: of the great simplicities of just being just you know,

468
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: a dumb man is you can sometimes just sit there

469
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: and look at a fan and and kill an hour.

470
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 1: And if somebody comes up and just go, what are

471
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: you thinking about? Nothing? I'm thinking about this fan, and

472
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about nothing else. I like the way it moves.

473
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I like the way the air fields on me. Don't

474
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: try and take this fan away and put diamonds there.

475
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: Just let me have the fan. Uh yeah, I mean

476
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: we get it. Just let us have our chandelier. You know.

477
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: As a comedian, though, how do you because I gotta

478
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: I feel like the comedians that I've met. Um, I

479
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: did a movie with Adam Sandler way back in the day,

480
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and I've met like Smashing Maniscalco and every every comedian

481
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: i've met, they've always been very a lot shyer than

482
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: I thought they would, be more quiet, more reserved. And

483
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: is that because do you guys feel like you have

484
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: to put so much of yourself out there on stage

485
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: that you're just like by the time that you're done,

486
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: because because you're putting on such a like you want

487
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: people to laugh, you have to be um, maybe exaggerate

488
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: a little bit more like do you come back and

489
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: you're just like, is it is it safer to just

490
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: like not be as Yeah, I do think that there's

491
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: absolutely an element of that is that you are, you know,

492
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: you're the show in a lot of ways. You're you know,

493
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: you're why people are coming out. You are or even

494
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: if you're not the reason they came out, you're there

495
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: kind of for their entertainment, and you have to, you know,

496
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: you have to operate on kind of such a high

497
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: capacity during that that sometimes you're a little drained. I

498
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: also think that, you know, the majority of comics that

499
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: I've met are very introverted, and a lot of it

500
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,439
Speaker 1: is just because we aren't super comfortable in the world.

501
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: We don't you know, there's that's a that's the real question.

502
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: We're all trying to figure out why do we need

503
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: to get on stage and have strangers validate us each night.

504
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think there's there there. I mean,

505
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: the reality is is there's a validation proof there, there's

506
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a kind of from the majority of

507
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: comedians would attest to something, whether it's childhood or trauma

508
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: or just uh, you know, mental illness or whatever may

509
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: be that that that's kind of ultimately like for me personally,

510
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: if we want to get deep on it, like I had, Yeah,

511
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, my my parents split when I

512
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: was five. I was an incredible mama's boy. Uh my

513
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: mom was immediately out of the picture for the majority

514
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: of my childhood, and the thing that I loved most

515
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: and validated me the most was no longer there and consistently.

516
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: And I was raised by a single parent, so long

517
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: before I got on stage to go do stand up comedy,

518
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: was always seeking for validation, was always looking for someone

519
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: to tell me that I'm worth something, you know, And that,

520
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: by the way, is stuff that goes into the relationship too,

521
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: because my my wife has said many times, like I

522
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: understand that, and I want to be here for you,

523
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: But I also can't heal that. I can't I can't

524
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: make you love yourself more. I can't make you value

525
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: yourself more. That there's the amount of own work that

526
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: you have to do there. So the good news is

527
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: a stand up comedy is a nice outlet for that.

528
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: And I have a friend who says, you know, those

529
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: laughs a lot of time are just tiny hugs, hugs

530
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: from strangers each night, you know, so there is That's

531
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: just me though. I do think that each of them,

532
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I would never name names because it's

533
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: there to tell them, but um, even of the ones

534
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: that you've named so far, I know there is a

535
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: history of similar stories like that for them. Um, so

536
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: you know. And we also just kind of uh and

537
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: and like there is sometimes that when you operate on

538
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: such like a high level of adrenaline like that, you know,

539
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: the just like you're I'm in front of strangers and

540
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: people are looking at me and saying, dance, joke, monkey dance,

541
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: Like that's such a high pressure thing that sometimes, you know,

542
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: sometimes people are gonna be a little boring after that too.

543
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: We'll disclosure. No, I mean, I I can kind of

544
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: get that. I mean, Cat, you could probably attest to

545
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: it too, where it's like after I come off a

546
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: show or something, or if I'm on stage, it's like

547
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: you have all this adrenaline and then you kind of

548
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: just like you want to be quiet, you know, and

549
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: you want because you have so many people like that.

550
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: You know, you have a hundred people meeting greets, and

551
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: you've got all these are things and you're just kind

552
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: of like you don't really have much left to give.

553
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: So it's like you're kind of um like before, like

554
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times, for example, like what I'm filming

555
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: a movie, like I've I've I've always eaten my lunch

556
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: in my trailer, and people are like, why don't you

557
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: eat lunch with everyone? Like it's not that I'm trying

558
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: to be rude, It's like that's just my one time

559
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: to just be quiet and like not have to like

560
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: make conversation because I'm like I'm drained, Like I got it.

561
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: I want to save it for for X, Y and Z,

562
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, and so yeah, you end up living for that.

563
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: The best part of my day every day is after

564
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I dropped my youngest off at school and then I

565
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: come home and I sit quietly on my phone drinking

566
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: that first cup of coffee or usually about thirty to

567
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: sixty minutes and do my word all and and just

568
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: casually graze the internet, not work version of the internet,

569
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: because you know, you know the exact difference. There are

570
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: there are places that I can go onto the internet

571
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: that are going to be worked for me, and there

572
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: are other places. And I'm just I'm grazing, I'm just consuming. Hey,

573
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: what's happening in the world. And that is like a

574
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: total Like I go to bed looking forward to that

575
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: in the morning. I can't wait for it. It's better

576
00:29:52,880 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: than sleep for me. I love that. Well. I mean,

577
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: you wrote a book, you know, how to be married

578
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: to Melissa, your wife, but how how how do you

579
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: be married to you? Like? What do you do for yourself? Um?

580
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: That makes you happy? M hmm. Besides the coffee in

581
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: the world. I mean, that's a big part of it.

582
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: That if I were marrying me, I would put that

583
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: in my wedding vows. But what's a what's a what's

584
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: a guide for Melissa? Because you you know, for for you,

585
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: because I mean you you gave the guide for her. Yeah, yeah,

586
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: we we do talk a lot about that in the book.

587
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: There is um uh my, I have, so I have

588
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: a d h D. I'm I'm scattered constantly, I'm losing stuff,

589
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting stuff. I am just uh, you know, like

590
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: to have a conversation with me. I've I've every once

591
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: in a while, I've I've wanted to see like a

592
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: math of just how I bounce around, Like if we're

593
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: like on a hike or something like that, and you're like,

594
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: I think I just covered a thousand topics in an

595
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: hour and you just had to sit there and receive it,

596
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: and and then the other part of that is like

597
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: it's then, but it can be hard to have deep

598
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: conversations with me. And my wife is just a well,

599
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: my wife like wants more so than anything in her

600
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: heart and soul, her main desire is to feel understood.

601
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: She wants she wants her friends, her family, her partner,

602
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: her kids, she wants them to understand her. Which is

603
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like if you were to say,

604
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: like I want to feel respected, Like that's hard to quantify.

605
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: There's no metric of like whether or not you feel.

606
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: But like one thing that we learned really early on,

607
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: like we we talked about this in one of the

608
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: communication or in the communication chapter is you know we

609
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: always do that have routine. You know, you get the

610
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: kids down and then you come and you it's time

611
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: to talk, it's time to vege, it's time to do

612
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: whatever Mel needs. That time of where are you at,

613
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about? What? And and that would

614
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: be like draining to me because I'm tired sitting down

615
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: and having just an intentional conversation. It's like when you

616
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: have a d h D. It's like just pulling, you know,

617
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: like hair. I don't know why I reached a pull

618
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: hair out of my back brokes. Yeah, that's disgusting. But

619
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: we one night, very unintentionally, I was on my phone

620
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: just dinking around doing a brainless game. I was playing

621
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: Angry Birds. It is the years two thousand and seven

622
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: and and unintentionally I proceeded to have probably the most

623
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: deep heartfelt conversation with her I've ever had while never

624
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: looking up, because this was like a little brain trigger

625
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: for me that you know how they say like you

626
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: have your best ideas in the shower, and it's because

627
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: you're kind of occupied but not fully occupied. That's what

628
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: having a d h D is like for me, is

629
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: that if I can, if I can do something on

630
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: my phone that's slightly an attaining me, But I don't

631
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Speaker 1: have to think about it. I'm actually pretty great right here.

632
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Speaker 1: So it's a lot of like little things like that

633
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Speaker 1: that we've just got to learn along the way of

634
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Speaker 1: like you know what, actually I know from the outside

635
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Speaker 1: looking in that that looks like I'm being rude and

636
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Speaker 1: disrespectful and how dare you be on your phone? But

637
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Speaker 1: Melissa gets out of that what she wants, which is

638
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Speaker 1: me being engaged and you know, going deep with her.

639
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Speaker 1: And I get what I wanted to because I do

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Speaker 1: it desire to have that conversation, but it's in a

641
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Speaker 1: way that isn't isn't pulling out my back hair? Right? Well,

642
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Speaker 1: that makes sense, So are you? I guess like for

643
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Speaker 1: the people that have been married a long time too,

644
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Speaker 1: I mean being a high school sweetheart, how do you guys,

645
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Speaker 1: like what's been the thing to keep you guys? Because

646
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Speaker 1: I can imagine through that getting married so young, like

647
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Speaker 1: you're kind of going in and out of like you're

648
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Speaker 1: growing right right, that's like what how how have you

649
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Speaker 1: guys managed to stay together? And now we we go

650
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Speaker 1: out of like our way in our life and I

651
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Speaker 1: go ruight Away in this book to say, I don't,

652
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't define a successful marriage is one

653
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Speaker 1: that like last or don't last. I hate that. I

654
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: hate every piece of that. I hate the shame that

655
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Speaker 1: comes with that. I hate that words like failure and

656
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: success are thrown around in the terms of relationships because

657
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: they're not. They're living organisms that have a lifespan to them,

658
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: and some last longer and some don't. And some it's

659
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: the best thing, like every other relationship in our life.

660
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Speaker 1: Some it's the best thing that it could end. That's

661
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: the that's what that thing needed to do. It's it

662
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: had run its course. So we I really do think that,

663
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Speaker 1: and I only talked about this. There is, especially having

664
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Speaker 1: getting married so young, there is a dumb luck to it.

665
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Speaker 1: There's a good there is for we have grown in

666
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Speaker 1: ways that have remained compatible and not combatible, like we are,

667
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: our personalities meshed well then then and even though we've

668
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: changed into you know, when you look at those old pictures,

669
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Speaker 1: you're like, I don't even think I am that person anymore,

670
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Speaker 1: But we have still we were fortunate and again just

671
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Speaker 1: lucky enough in a lot of ways that we still

672
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Speaker 1: kind of we we meshed together nicely. And I don't

673
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Speaker 1: think it's because we did this, this and this. I

674
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Speaker 1: just think that there was an amount that of of

675
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Speaker 1: just our life's kind of went that way, and um,

676
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Speaker 1: you know we were of course we put in the

677
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Speaker 1: work and that other than you know, we have the

678
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Speaker 1: communication all that kind of stuff. But I I know

679
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Speaker 1: that's not the answer that a lot of people want,

680
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Speaker 1: but I will say that for us, I do think

681
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: that there is an element of just you know, dumb

682
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Speaker 1: luck to it. That's your next book, dumb luck, dumb luck. Honestly,

683
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Speaker 1: it's so good. I think that's I think that's like

684
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Speaker 1: I was just texting Cat because you know, she's gonna

685
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Speaker 1: going through a divorce right now because she married very young,

686
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Speaker 1: and as a cat, I was a cat. Yes this

687
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: like this is so interesting, you know, and she's like, yes,

688
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: it is so interesting. He says. It's like it's it's

689
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Speaker 1: not a failure that you know, I've gotten divorced, You've

690
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Speaker 1: gotten divorce, and it's like it's just it's don't like

691
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: not to look at it in that way. And I'm like,

692
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Speaker 1: it's such a good reminder. It's something's work, something's don't

693
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Speaker 1: and um, something's last and some things won't you know.

694
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that turned into a beautiful little Doctor SEUs.

695
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I didn't even I didn't even plan that.

696
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Speaker 1: I've like now just I've quoted Doctor SEUs and apparently

697
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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey. This is just really touch in there. That's

698
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Speaker 1: when you try. Um, well you are so so I

699
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Speaker 1: can't wait to read the book because it sounds like

700
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Speaker 1: it's going to be just entertaining to which you know

701
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Speaker 1: is good. Where can our listeners find you? And just um,

702
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Speaker 1: do you have tour dates? Are you coming out to

703
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Speaker 1: on the road? What's going on? Yeah? Yeah, so anything

704
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Speaker 1: that As far as I know, I'm the only Dustin

705
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Speaker 1: Nickerson in show business. So Dustin Nickerson and I see

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Speaker 1: k r SO and Ductor that'll have show dates on there.

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Speaker 1: Uh when my seasonal headline outs tour is we stop

708
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Speaker 1: next in San Diego and then I'm out really until

709
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Speaker 1: midfall and then my specials on there and then also

710
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Speaker 1: links to the book wherever you want to buy it

711
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Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, bite at uh local

712
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Speaker 1: indie bookstore or Amazon, whatever you want to do wherever

713
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Speaker 1: books are sold on the internet. At least you can

714
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Speaker 1: get him there. Well, Thank you, Dustin, I really appreciate

715
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Speaker 1: you coming on Wine Down and thank you for being

716
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Speaker 1: vulnerable as well. So it's it's very nice to see

717
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Speaker 1: when I when a guy can get there, so well,

718
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Speaker 1: thank you for having this nice of course, thank you

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Speaker 1: Justin