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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, forty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of DIR Days. Like Guys, the production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially,

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Speaker 1: off the top, fuck the Cooke Brothers, Fuck Fox News,

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Speaker 1: fuck Rush Limbah, fuck Bux Sexton. He uh rowling rolland

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Speaker 1: rolling rowling, what bowling? Bowling? Bowling? And on today's guest,

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Speaker 1: a little sneak peek. That's what we call it tease

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Speaker 1: in the biz, little and bowl in action Tuesdays. That's

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Speaker 1: a good a k uh. It's Tuesday, July twenty. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jack O'Brien a k a baha bah bah

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Speaker 1: bah bah bah bah baha bah baha baha. Cool blast

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Speaker 1: baha bah a cool blast. Everything I host is like

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Speaker 1: the podcast host cook, but Jackob from Crack with Baja

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Speaker 1: Blast Caffee's got me shook. How you like O'Brien, bro

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Speaker 1: files are out and shining. Bro not to turn my

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Speaker 1: mic on up plate, I'm not recording ship ah. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy of Christie. I'm a Gucci man and I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles what it is? Cove, what's U? What's can

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Speaker 1: the player get? Test? Risults your brain like it ain't

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Speaker 1: even hurt. Don't cry, Just get some dessert. Just get

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Speaker 1: your number and they'll call. And make sure to steer

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Speaker 1: clear of the mill. Stay at home, just play with

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Speaker 1: your dolls going crazy, stare and there at four whiles. Okay,

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Speaker 1: shout out to Trillville, shut out to uh at Anna

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Speaker 1: Claire Hodge. I believe that's this above all, to thine

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Speaker 1: own self, trill I believe it is your I g

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Speaker 1: handle if I recall correctly, and then if I go

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Speaker 1: even further back. We were at podcast movement. UH. The

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Speaker 1: homeboy who was like selling like microphone accessories, was like,

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Speaker 1: hey a friend ando sit game? Can I get a

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Speaker 1: video U? And it all comes together, so shout out

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Speaker 1: to you, shout out and miles. We are filled to

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Speaker 1: be joined once again by the Man, the Myth, a

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Speaker 1: legend in the game, the host of Ridiculous History, uh many,

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Speaker 1: a podcast on our network. He is Mr Ben Smoking

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Speaker 1: Bowling O. Yes, bol Ban Bolins. What's up? Man? Oh man?

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Speaker 1: You you know? Uh? Third time around? Feels good to

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Speaker 1: be back. Uh as a site for sore eyes, I

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Speaker 1: feel like, hey, thank you. I feel like a lot

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Speaker 1: of us can agree. Peek behind the scenes. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: might not always be a period on each other's shows,

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Speaker 1: but as Myles and Jack point out before we rolled today,

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Speaker 1: we pretty much see each other there every Tuesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: duly Thursday, that's right time dilation. Ben is the face

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Speaker 1: of the executive producers meeting in the podcast division. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's always like for some reason. Uh, he's just pinned

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Speaker 1: to the top left. He has that realistic steaked out

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Speaker 1: real estate out and uh yeah, it's great to we.

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Speaker 1: We we get to just kind of see see his

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Speaker 1: spit takes every time there's a new announcement. It's great.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry, Jack, all right, it was in

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Speaker 1: my contract. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Speaker 1: I fu up. Okay, I know, I know at one

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Speaker 1: time when they announced a new show and you fell

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Speaker 1: backwards out of your seat, those amazing physical comedy Ben.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit

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Speaker 1: better in a moment, but first we like to tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of the things we're taught talking about. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking to Robert Evans in Act two,

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Speaker 1: of the show about you know, what he's witnessed on

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Speaker 1: the streets of Portland these past You know, he's been

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Speaker 1: out there most nights of the uh fifty six consecutive

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Speaker 1: nights of uprising on the streets of Portland where the

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Robert who has been witnessing that firsthand.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Netflix shows that we promised

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Speaker 1: we would watch and review for you guys. Uh, they

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Speaker 1: I watched Old Guard, The Old Guard with Charlie's there

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Speaker 1: on uh and uh when that was I picked that

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Speaker 1: when that was number one on Netflix. And then Miles, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you picked The Fatal Affair. Oh my god, yeah, baby,

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Speaker 1: which has been borrow one ever since you picked it,

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Speaker 1: So I have to assume that it's number one. That's

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Speaker 1: the zeit guys. Bump, Yeah, weekend, see what happens. You

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so fatal It's not fatal attraction. That's a

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Speaker 1: point out Miles stormed out when you said fatal attraction. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Just direct upload um. All of that plenty more. But first, Ben,

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh? Man, uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I thought about whether I should

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Speaker 1: these in our troubled times. But really this is a

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Speaker 1: what we'll do if there's a world without a lockdown

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Speaker 1: people now. Uh so my search history is pretty deep

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Speaker 1: in uh falconry. It's a thing you can do. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Turns out it's a little bit complicated. Yeah, a little

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Speaker 1: you could be using a falcon, sir, which is way cooler,

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Speaker 1: way more badass. Just breed a bunch of full falcons

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Speaker 1: ship you have these like al assassin's and ship, yeah, staircase, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: For Miles show has peaked um. But yeah, the stats

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Speaker 1: So those are just facts, Jack, And that's why I

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Speaker 1: love about this show. That's right. I saw a guy

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Speaker 1: got in over my head. I gotten too deep. I

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Speaker 1: And I was like, this is not this is not

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Speaker 1: some real headbanding stuff. Wow literally wow? Okay, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: me to someone's yum all respective falconers. It's just anybody skill.

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Speaker 1: But on what I mean, the videos and the falcons

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Speaker 1: It looks like the hat and then this one looks

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Speaker 1: like I think a training hat or something. Anyway, this

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Speaker 1: will be a whole other episode. Will do no I mean, sorry, guys, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: That's why I got out of it. You can't do

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Speaker 1: a search history that deserves to be its own, like

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Speaker 1: part of part series. What is? What is something you

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Speaker 1: think is underrated? Okay? Honestly, I think the damaging, your

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Speaker 1: delatorious effects, the callousness of people on social media. And

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Speaker 1: I never thought I would be a hardcore advocating for

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Speaker 1: something like this. I'm not a mental health expert or something.

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Speaker 1: I know probably talked about it on Daily Seitgeist. But

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Speaker 1: the Kanye West presidential bid. For example, Like the guy's

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Speaker 1: actually filing paperwork. You can see it. He's filed for

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and stuff, and people are you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's like, we have to remember we don't

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Speaker 1: in Portland as all hell has broken loose and Trump

423
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Speaker 1: has started using that city as his fascism testing ground. Yeah.

424
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: That part's actually been great, um lately. Yeah, it's like

425
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: you're the test kitchen for whatever white supremacist fascism the

426
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: Trump administration wants to try out. Yeah you there, Yeah,

427
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: like yeah, they tried that there and it's not working great.

428
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: So like Robert, you know things, I think people have

429
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: known that for the last you know, over fifty five

430
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Speaker 1: days or so. Uh, it hasn't stopped in Portland. Although

431
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: the media is typically only focused on times it's violent,

432
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: there has been not much coverage of many of the

433
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: peaceful protests that have continued in this country because you know,

434
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: it's not gonna get eyeballs. But with Portland's I think

435
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: many people were know anyone who follows you can tell

436
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: that the situation was not improving. And then around the

437
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: fourteenth of July as when we started seeing these reports

438
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: of just federal goons hopping out of unmarked you know,

439
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: car unmarked vans and disappearing people. So what, um, I

440
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: guess to put it professionally, what the fuck is going on? Man?

441
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's been an uprising against the police.

442
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: So the national focus has been on the Feds because

443
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: the Feds, number one, are pretty visually spectacular. They have

444
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: a funkload immunitions and they just toss them out like

445
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: goddamn candy, um And they dress exactly like soldiers and

446
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: they do violence in the way that soldiers do and

447
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: it's pretty spectacular to watch. Um. So that has captured people,

448
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: and that and like the snatch vans, have captured attention

449
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: but like the vast majority of the violence done during

450
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: this uprising has been by the Portland Police Bureau, and

451
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: that's still what most people in Portland are most pissed about,

452
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and that's why this has gone on so long. Like

453
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Speaker 1: before the President started making Portland the centerpiece of his

454
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: reelection campaign, the size of the demonstrations had dwindled to

455
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: like a good night would be three hundred people, but

456
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: they were three hundred like hardened activists who were at all,

457
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: who had all completely lost their fear of police, and

458
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 1: we're like willing to give up their lives standing up

459
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: against them in a riot line and like fucking getting

460
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: shot at for hours, and we're just doing that every

461
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: single night. Like it was fucking relentless, and it was

462
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: like the press corps a lot of us up until

463
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: these last the last three or four days have been

464
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: great because now there's all this attention and the big

465
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: crowds have come back, and like the police are on

466
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 1: the back foot, but like we were all starting to

467
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: fucking break down, just as kind of the movement itself was,

468
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: because it seemed like this whole thing was dying. Yeah,

469
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: I noticed you were interviewed by this small time out

470
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: of town newspaper, the New York Times. Yeah, so they're

471
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty interested in, uh in the whole thing.

472
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: You've been there for, like you said in that interview,

473
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: like probably thirties something of something man, Yeah, yeah, most

474
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Speaker 1: of them. I was there on the very first night.

475
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I've I've I've seen most of it. What what sort

476
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: of this interplay between the narrative that the right is

477
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: using to say, Okay, because it seems like if you're

478
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: if you're tuning into Fox, their line is, look at

479
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: these left wing Democrat mayors and governors let their towns

480
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: get ripped up by anarchists. How do you think all

481
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: of this, all of these visual elements, the you know,

482
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: sort of escalation with federal officers coming in, how that

483
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: all plays into this sort of narrative that the White

484
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: House wants. Well, you know, here's the thing I do

485
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: want to push back against. Now. You know, the big

486
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: demonstration last night was fueled a lot by Donald Trump.

487
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: But um, as a rule, the reason that's got this

488
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: far is not because people hated Donald Trump. It's not

489
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: because people hated the Feds. It is because people in

490
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Portland recognize that their police bureau is particularly violent and problematic.

491
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Fifty eight percent of use of force cases by the

492
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: Portland Police is against the mentally handicapped. Right. They had

493
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: very recently an officer named Krueger in two thousand ten

494
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 1: he was caught basically like, he was caught building and

495
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: maintaining shrines to dead Nazis, um, And he got in

496
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: trouble for it, and the police union sued and got

497
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: him an apology and he retired eventually with a full pension.

498
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: A guy named Krueger. Yeah, shocking the Portland Police union.

499
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: When a Kwanis Hayes was killed by the Portland Police

500
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: bureau like blamed his mom for his death. Um, and

501
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: obviously like argued to let that Nazi cop get you know,

502
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: an apology. Um. The so the previous two chiefs ago,

503
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Outlaw, who's now the Philly police chief went in

504
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen, Portland police shot a man in

505
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: the back of the head with a grenade and nearly

506
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: killed him. Um. She went on a far right podcast

507
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: and laughed about how this was an example of like

508
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: Antifa getting the fight that they wanted. And on another instant,

509
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: so like, you know, she left and then we had

510
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: chief Rush for a while about six months, and she

511
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: left after all this started because of how badly the

512
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: initial police response to the demonstrations is. We got a

513
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: new guy, Chief Lavell, who's a black man and who

514
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: like when they made him the new police chief, everybody

515
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: was talking about how good it is that now this

516
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, we've got this black man who's really tied

517
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: into the black community and he's going to be a

518
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: good police chief. Immediately, a local journalist finds a story

519
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: from when he was a school resource officer a few

520
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: years earlier and a girl talked back to him and

521
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: he choked her and he got suited for choking a

522
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: fourteen year old. So it's like, yeah, Portland Police good bureau.

523
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: So again, like the Portland police have earned a huge

524
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: amount of hatred by repeatedly assaulting people and showing like

525
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: a dis day. I've watched them drag people on their

526
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: backs over asphalt into clouds of tear gas like they

527
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck they are they are a bad

528
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: police bureau. Um, can you talk about riot ribs? Uh?

529
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah, I can talk about right that story

530
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's the kind of side of

531
00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: the protests and uh, community action that isn't getting covered.

532
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: This old man Lorenzo showed up on July four and

533
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: started cooking a shipload of ribs for people. Um and

534
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: like one of my friends, Donovan Farley, who's a local

535
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: journal or who's a journalist here, doesn't running for Rolling

536
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Stone a vice and stuff. Like when the police came out,

537
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: So the July four everybody laid siege to the federal

538
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: courthouse with illegal fireworks. So like people were just firing

539
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of dollars worth of like commercial grade

540
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: fireworks into the side of a courthouse while federal agents

541
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: inside shot out at them and dumped tear gas like

542
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: it was fucking burning pitch down the sides of the castle.

543
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: It was quite a night. Um. And so eventually all

544
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: these Feds and cops like charge out and start trying

545
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: to clear the parks and stuff, and like the crowd

546
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: fought with them for hours. But like Donovan and a

547
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: couple of other people who were just like clustered around

548
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: this guy Lorenzo like protected him with their bodies and

549
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: we're like, you're not gonna funk up the ribs, And

550
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the cops basically looked at like this old black man

551
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: cooking ribs, and we're probably not gonna be great for

552
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: us if we just beat the ship out of the

553
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: guy tonight. Like probably we should probably focus on beating

554
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: the ship out of these teenagers. It's not like he's

555
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old child. Yeah, he's not like he's

556
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old child. Um. And yeah, Lorenzo the

557
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: whole time was just being like, I got enough pork

558
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: on here, piggies, I don't need you out here too,

559
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: And it's like it's very funny. Um. So Lorenzo becomes

560
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: something of like a fucking monument to the community, and

561
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: Riot Ribs get started, and Lorenzo, actually he's an older guy.

562
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't been out as often. But like Riot Ribbs

563
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: has become its own like self reinforcing organization. So there's

564
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of different cooks. There's a mix of like

565
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: folks who are just like motivated to the cause, a

566
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of houseless people. Um. And so it's become both

567
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: like a twenty four hour basically kitchen where you can

568
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: eat your fill um. But also they have like clothing

569
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 1: donations set up. They have like you know, food and

570
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: water that's outside of the Ribs. Um they have like

571
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: they do like resume writing and like you know, trying

572
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: to help people get like showers and clothing to like

573
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: get work and stuff. Um. So it's become like this

574
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: community mutual aid organization too, and the police fucking hate it.

575
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: They arrest the riot Ribs guys most nights. Um they've

576
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: done ship like slash their tires, steal their food and

577
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: throw it away a bunch of times. And we have

578
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: another there's a guy who has a van that's become

579
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: called the BLM Snack Fan And it's just like a

580
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: van covered in graffiti full of snacks that will drive

581
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: around with the protesters while they're fighting the cops. And

582
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: on July four, he wasn't breaking the law, but the

583
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: cops just slashed his tires while he was driving. It

584
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: was this like it was this wild thing. I'm just like,

585
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: are you guys just cutting is You're not even trying

586
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: to arrest him, You just fucking cut his tires? Like

587
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? They hate people with snacks. Robert,

588
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: you reported on the Ukraine kind of civil war, the

589
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: uprising in the streets of kiv Uh. What can you

590
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: talk about? Just like how this well, first of all,

591
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: just explained like what happened there briefly, and then talk

592
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: about like what you're seeing now in the United States. Um,

593
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, in Portland it has when this all started,

594
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: there was this because everybody was very um enthusiastic when

595
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: they started in Portland, but there was not a lot

596
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: of like deep knowledge about how to There's a lot

597
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: of knowledge about like how to coordinator march had to

598
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: block off streets, how to like keep a crowd of

599
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: people kind of safe in the streets as they prepare

600
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: to confront the police. Folks weren't very good at confronting

601
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: the police initially. That took a lot of time. Like

602
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching even we've been watching this fucking crowd

603
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: get better at it and like going from like getting

604
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: tear gas once and everybody scatters through the streets to

605
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: like holding up and fighting in groups of multiple hundreds,

606
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: sometimes over a thousand for hours, um, which is where

607
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: we are now at this point. It is a like

608
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: it is a hardened crowd of street fighters. And yeah,

609
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: there's definitely you know what you haven't seen the situation

610
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: they had in the Idon, which is where people actually

611
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: occupied semi permanently you know, a massive chunk of this

612
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: of the central city and refused to leave, and we're

613
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: willing to like die and deploy physical, hardcore physical violence

614
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: against the police. We still have not seen that. We

615
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: have seen protesters throw stuff and shoot fireworks at police

616
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: and federal agents. We have not yet seen in an order.

617
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: We've and we've seen a few dear rests. You know,

618
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: there have been some like you know, fights with sticks

619
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: and stuff, but very little of that comparatively, like, there

620
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: has not been yet the kind of thing that will

621
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: happen at some point of this continues where a police

622
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: or federal riot lion charges with beat sticks and they're

623
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: met by a crowd who starts swinging sticks back at

624
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: them and trying to like knock them down and tack like.

625
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: That has not we haven't had that moment yet. And

626
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: to be clear, the part that has happened is the

627
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: cops just tackling the ship out of people and being

628
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: hit with sticks, yeah, all the time leading them in

629
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: the face. Yeah, Yeah, it's bad. There was what, uh

630
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: seemed to be a like an actual human giant who

631
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: was being confronted by a bunch of cops and just

632
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: got that they were hitting him, and it's a fifty

633
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: three year old local activist and navy veteran. He was

634
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: actually a Naval Academy veteran who like stood up while

635
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: these federal agents beat him with sticks and just like

636
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't move and didn't move what they mazed him, and

637
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: like they actually fucked him up really bad. His arms

638
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: broken in a few places. He's getting pins put in

639
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: his hand, like they messed him up bad. He just

640
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: didn't want to be seen flinching from them, Um, because

641
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: he's a tough son of a bit. Yeah, it's all over.

642
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: You meet these people like that who just have been

643
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: doing this, who are just like like one of our

644
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: local reporters who has done like some of the most

645
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, standing in the streets and being horribly tear

646
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: gassed and shot at. Is this young woman, Lindsay, who

647
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: is a fucking kindergarten teacher who just started coming out

648
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: like seeing all police brutalent. He was like, well, I

649
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: guess I should come out and film this every night

650
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: in between like teaching small children. Um, yeah, it's it's

651
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: pretty amazing, like what's been happening in the streets of

652
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: Portland's Okay, So I think with any of these protests

653
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: that we've seen that are going up against police violence

654
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: and like just the systemic oppression that is being aided

655
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: by the federal government as well. What is sort of

656
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: the end goal for the protesters in Portland to begin

657
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: seeing some kind of shift like that begins to feel

658
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: substantive to the point where it's not just gestures or

659
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: empty you know, nonsense. So what's been achieved already is

660
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: that about twenty four million dollars have been cut out

661
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: of the Portland Police Bureau budget UM and the a

662
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 1: couple of programs have been into. The Gang Task Force,

663
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: which is probably the most violent chunk of the Portland

664
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Police has been shut down. The school resource officers are

665
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: being removed from Portland's schools UM. So there have been

666
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: some changes like that that have been made. Um I

667
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: would say most of the crowd, that is, the regular crowd,

668
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: are complete abolitionists, right, even the ones who weren't at

669
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: the start of this. They don't want there to be

670
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: a Portland Police Bureau. They want to they want to

671
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: get rid of them and do something else, and they

672
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: want the Feds out. Everybody wants the Feds out. Um

673
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: I would say of the folks who are kind of

674
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: have been coming out less and have been coming more

675
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: since like the Trump stuff started. There's a lot of

676
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: kind of reform the police, but kind of broad understanding,

677
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: like you know, the cuts need to be more like

678
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. Uh, it needs to be possible to

679
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: sue police officers directly, like some of these people need

680
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: to go to fucking jail. There need to be investigations

681
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: in the use of force, and there's a growing consensus

682
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: that like all charges against protesters need to be dropped. Um. Yeah,

683
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: I would say, like those are the kind of things

684
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: everyone agrees on, and like then there's kind of some

685
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: sticking points between the people who want to reform the

686
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: police and the people who are like, we don't want

687
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: to have police anymore. Again, everyone who's been out here

688
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: for most of the fifty days, they're all kind of

689
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: on the let's not have any fucking cops in the

690
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: city anymore, let's replace them with something, Let's figure something

691
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: else out, because this like fuck these people, Um is

692
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: the attitude I would say I see the most. And

693
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: also like I don't know, I would prefer they not

694
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: exist anymore. I've seen them shoot enough people who in

695
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: the body and beat enough people in the face that like, yeah,

696
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: we don't need those I don't I don't think those

697
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: are necessary in my community, Like I don't like them here.

698
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: So Robert, I think one thing is probably on a

699
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: lot of the on the mind of a lot of

700
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: people listening to this episode is going to be uh

701
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're saying, I'm not in Portland, I

702
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: support this. I want to in some way help or assist,

703
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, even if I live in pot Keepsie or

704
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: in I don't know, Jakarta or something. Just pulling names

705
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: out of a hat. What could people do people based

706
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: outside of Portland's to somehow support others during this uprising.

707
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: You know there's the yeah, the PDX Protest Bail Fund is,

708
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: you know, putting in money to help people get out

709
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 1: of jail. Um. You know, there's a couple of different

710
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: um organizations that are attempting to like help folks who

711
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: have been you know, um uh uh affected. You know,

712
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: like like who have charges against them, who are coming

713
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: out of jail and stuff. Everybody's gonna have PTSD, I'm sure,

714
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: like or a lot of people are going to be

715
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: suffering from PTSD. After this PTSD, Like, yeah, everybody, like

716
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: everybody who's really been out here has PTSD, and like

717
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty well known. And again, part of what's part

718
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: of what's bringing people out every night is kind of

719
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: this understanding that like, oh my god, if we stop,

720
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 1: when this finally ends, is when we're all gonna fucking

721
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: have this ship hit us like a mountain because that's

722
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: how PTSD works. Um, and that's not gonna be easy. UM,

723
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: So people are kind of dreading that. I think you

724
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: can also end my money to Portland's riot ribs. Right, yes,

725
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: you can absolutely been the money to Portland Riot ribs.

726
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: They rule. Um. And then just so like we kind

727
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: of talked about what you guys goals are on the

728
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: on the side of the people. UM. From Trump's perspective,

729
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, it seems like you know, he it. Yesterday

730
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: afternoon it was announced that he was defying the mayor's

731
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: order to get the feds out and actually just ordered

732
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy five federal troops in Chicago. Um.

733
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: Like it, it seems to me like he's trying to

734
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: start a civil war before he gets voted out of office.

735
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: And like, I don't like just they knowing what we

736
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: know of his like the way he thinks, like there's

737
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: literally no reason he wouldn't try to do that because

738
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: he wants death, he wants carnage, and he wants power,

739
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: and those are all things that he could accumulate if

740
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: if this escalates. Like how how are you thinking about that?

741
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: As somebody who has some expert teas and kind of

742
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: writing about and reporting from civil wars around around the world,

743
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm certainly concerned about, you know, the the potential for

744
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: fatal violence, right, that was the thing when people first

745
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: started really fucking with the Feds, before there were big

746
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: crowds again, it was like, based on the wording of

747
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: the executive order he put out to protect the statues,

748
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: they could just be shooting people every time people get fucking,

749
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: you know, into a statue or a federal park to

750
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: mess with it. Like they have that right according to

751
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: the and the eos are probably illegal, but like you know,

752
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: up to that point, like they don't have to, you know,

753
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: they they they're they get to do kind of what

754
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: they want to. So they have made a choice essentially

755
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: not to start shooting at people, right, not to fire

756
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: live rounds yet, but they're out there with them fours

757
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: every night, Like they have the weapons and they bring

758
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: them out when they are shooting at protesters with the

759
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: non lethals, and the way that they use the non

760
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: lethals is the way they would be using live rounds, right,

761
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: because they're not trained in how to use non lethals

762
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: the way police do, which is why they hurt people

763
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: so much. Um So, it is this kind of dicey

764
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: situation where, you know, the City of Portland has continued

765
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: to call the president's bluff in and I think everyone

766
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: is hoping that like if if this key like, he

767
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: won't have the fucking guts to start shooting people because

768
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: of how badly this has gone for him so far.

769
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: And it is at this point, like there's this kind

770
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: of level of I think understanding in Portland that like

771
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: if if, like the the only way for us to

772
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: be safe is to keep this up, right, Yeah, I

773
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: really worry about Yeah, any any assumption that is on

774
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: the side of like, you know, him not doing the

775
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: most desperate and violent thing, yea. Um So stay safe

776
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: out there. I know and said that to you a

777
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: number of times, but seriously, seriously, yeah, you know, it's

778
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: the thing that it is. Yeah, it's in this Yeah. Yeah,

779
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, man, I appreciate it, and I

780
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: know yeah uh yeah, hopefully you have some resources lined

781
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: up for once once this all settles down, because I know,

782
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: just experiencing and witnessing and then reliving it for assholes

783
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: like us can't be can't be good for you. So

784
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: I hope you're you know, taking care of yourself. Yeah,

785
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: we're all doing our best here. You know, we've got

786
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: a pretty good crew um who goes out, so that

787
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: helps you know you're not alone. Yeah. Yeah, I did

788
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: want to say I'm a little disappointed that the woman

789
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: is getting all the press for yeah. Yeah, and you

790
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: were three ft tour right am, I right, and doing

791
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, but nobody took that picture and

792
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: put it on the Yeah, you know, all of the

793
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: all of my nudity has been edited out of the

794
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: national story. And you know, everyone who's tired of knows

795
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: that my nudity has been a major part of this movement.

796
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that wasn't on any of the dhs like

797
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: Justification Scrolls or like Robert Evans violent nudity. Yeah, they're scared,

798
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: they're scared of the rampantness of my nudity, the magnetic South.

799
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: All right, man, take care, stay safe, great talking, Thank

800
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: you later. A guys, we're gonna take a quick break

801
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: and we'll be back to talk Netflix. And we're back

802
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: and Miles and I uh watched the top two Netflix

803
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: movies of the past week. Uh, and as our writer

804
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Jam McNab pointed out, they do kind of represent this duality. Um.

805
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: We talked at the end of last week about how

806
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Netflix put out their list of the top ten movies, uh,

807
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: top ten original Netflix original movies so far like in

808
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: their history, and it was all these like kind of

809
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: slick action movies like Extraction with Chris Hemsworth and uh,

810
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: Spencer Confidential, uh, which I think it is post Malone

811
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: and it's about a crime solving dog. I think, Uh

812
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: that's what J. M. Rhode kind of agreed that name

813
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: is terrible, but it's Mark Walbert. So it's like these

814
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: kind of things that seem like, oh, that's a type

815
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: of movie that used to come out in the theaters

816
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: like three years ago, and now it's just moved on

817
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: to Netflix. And so they actually recently came out with

818
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: a press release saying the old Guard, which also fits

819
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: into that category. Charlie's there on Big Star and it's

820
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: a big, slick action movie with like, uh successful director.

821
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: They were like, that's been stream seventy two million times.

822
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: That's on pace to be one of our biggest movies,

823
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: if not our biggest movie. Um. But they did not

824
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: mention the movie be that supplanted it Fatal Affair, and

825
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: I think that you know, they're they're not talking about

826
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: the fact that three and sixty five Days has been

827
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: their most popular movie because it's just you know, cheap, tawdry,

828
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: uh TV, it's a skinnamax. Man, Yeah, it's Skinner's Three

829
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: sixty five Days was skinn imax, and Fatal Affair I've

830
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: heard described as like a more of a lifetime movie. Yeah,

831
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: so why don't we start off with Fatal Affair? Miles?

832
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: What what I mean? Look, I go into it. Nia

833
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: Long Love Her oh Man, Higher Learning one of my

834
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: favorite films. Uh, Like, I was like, this is great

835
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: it for me, it fits everything. I'm like two stars

836
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: that I've have, you know, have loved over the years. Uh,

837
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: they're back, they're a little older, you know, what the hell,

838
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: we're all a little bit older. So let's let's let's

839
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: just sit down and watch this like grimy, musty film,

840
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: and it's essentially like about like you know, it's like

841
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: one of those like love on requited things turns into

842
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: stalker sort of situations, and it's I was I watched

843
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: the trailer before we were talking about watching it, and

844
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: when I watched films like oh, it's the trailer is

845
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: actually the whole film, Like you don't miss anything if

846
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: you watch the trailer. So it's like Nia Long. She's

847
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: a high powered attorney with the perfect everything, husband, new

848
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: home daughter in college until one day this man comes

849
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: back into her life who she went to college with,

850
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: and at first it seems like it was a coincidence

851
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: that they're working together, and then they go to a

852
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: bar and things get a little bit hot and they

853
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: almost have sex, and she's like, you know what, I

854
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: have the perfect everything, and as much as I like

855
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: you and enjoy your company and your passion, and how

856
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: much comparatively you may be better than my current husband,

857
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: I cannot go through with this. Cut to now Omar

858
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: Epps becoming a stalker with hacker skills, and it's like

859
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: it plays out like how all these things do where

860
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: it's like suddenly, like he shows up as someone as

861
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: someone's guests to a dinner party and she's like, it's

862
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: like he won't get away, and he's playing golf with

863
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: my husband. You know. It's like very very formulaic how

864
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: the Stalker then just sort of seeps into the life

865
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: and the trailer basically yeah, and then the yeah, this

866
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: is all the trailer and then YadA, YadA YadA. Eventually

867
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: people's lives are on the line, and then he has

868
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: to die because he's the bad guy. Like it's very

869
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: you know what it is when you sign up. So

870
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: I was fine with that, and you know what, it

871
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: is so bad, But that's okay because you know, when

872
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: you watch the trailer, it does not look good. If

873
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: you're watching it, it's because you got to spare ninety

874
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: minutes and you you foc with knee along and omar apps,

875
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: like I don't have anything to do, let's check it out.

876
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: And plus we're on an airplane now. Everything is an

877
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: airplane film, so the bar is very low. I was like, okay.

878
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: The thing though, is that the sex scenes do not

879
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: compare to three sixty five Days or didn't he sorry

880
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: the European title, the Polish title. There is it like

881
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: one with nudity, Like does it have no No, it's

882
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot of like and I'm not saying you need nudity,

883
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: but like it felt like, you know, they're getting a check,

884
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: like they don't, you know, just get some close up

885
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: to you, like taking off your underwear and like that's enough.

886
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: And I was reading a review of it. That's actually

887
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: really true how they're pointing out. I think it is

888
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: in the route that this director or cinematographer loves insert shots.

889
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: So like anytime something happens, there's like an interaction. Maybe

890
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: omar EPs is like touching Nia Long's back, like oh,

891
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: let's go over here. Insert close up of hand on

892
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: small of back. Insert close up hand on hand, Insert

893
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: close up hand turning off lamp. Insert close up. There

894
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: are so many inserts that you're like, okay, everything has

895
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: so much meaning, but it doesn't. And the whole thing

896
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: that the thing that actually made this hard somewhat hard

897
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: for me to watch it wasn't the bad writing or

898
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: cinematography or directing or lighting. It was the fact that

899
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: omar Eps's character sort of felt like a person that

900
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: exists in real life. Where it's like, yeah, it's like

901
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: this dude who's like won't let go, and it starts

902
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: like meddling in their life and it's like really intense

903
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: and it Normally like these films have a little bit

904
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: more of like I don't know, it's like whimsy, but

905
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: there's something a little more fantastic about it. This just

906
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: felt like a dateline episode, you know, where I'm like, yeah, yeah,

907
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: that that tracks. This guy's a hacker, yep, and then

908
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: he figured it out and then he manipulated your homegirl

909
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: to get Yeah, really you hate to see it. So

910
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: it became like less of a film and I was like,

911
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: this ship is like, this feels like real life. And

912
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: not to say like I think with a lot of

913
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: those lifetime films there's always an element of like you'd

914
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: walk out and being like could you imagine if that

915
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: happened this, I'm like, oh my god, that's probably happening

916
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: somewhere right now. That could happen. Like there's nothing too yeah,

917
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: there's nothing too far off. I mean, yes, there's some

918
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: ridiculous stuff, but as a premise, I'm like, it wasn't

919
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: enough to make me like be like, oh, this is

920
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: just one of those bad movies. I was like, reality

921
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: does not have insert shots, and that is what we

922
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: look for in our entertainment, is it would it be

923
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: like if I could just like get real close up

924
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: for a split second on at hand. And yeah, it

925
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: was a hard thing to think of. Like you know,

926
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: some some performers age well, like men and women. But

927
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: Omar Epps I'm putting in that category of not aging

928
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: well like he. I think he had his he had

929
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: his time when he was young. I mean he's always

930
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: just like kind of he seemed cool. So like as

931
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: a fifty something, Like it's like a cool person doesn't

932
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: age in two necessarily, Like a cool person, Well you're

933
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: you're a dad. Now you're going golfing with it? Well,

934
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: like I would say, like a dress, Elba, you know

935
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like he's bringing he brings the silver

936
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: fox evolution to like I've I've I've seen it. But Elba,

937
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: from the start, you were like this. The thing that's

938
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: cool about this dude is he like has that gravity

939
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: about him that like you know, he's like I don't know,

940
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: like you would get you would hire him to be

941
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: the CEO of your company. Whereas Omar Epps just always

942
00:52:55,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: seemed cool, yeah, in the A dress level, but also

943
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about you guys, but as

944
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: an uncool person, those dudes give me a ship ton

945
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: of hope. I'm like, you know what, if I make

946
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: it six sixties, I'm gonna shine man. I I think

947
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: also with the insert shots, yeah, you know, I think

948
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: we can safely define a good film by the following.

949
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 1: It's a good film if you see the people's hands

950
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: close up more than you see their faces. You know,

951
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: that's how the industry works. The last thing I'll add

952
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: is like Omar EV's like you're saying he's such a

953
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: like a cool guy or like nice guy. There are

954
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: moments where like he didn't even he didn't come off

955
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: as believably a guy who had murdered his ex wife

956
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: who looks like Nia Long and you should be afraid

957
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: of him. Like I was like, oh, what's up, Omar

958
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: Epps And he's like, there's like one moment where Niah

959
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: Long is trying to like, you know, create boundaries for

960
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: his stocking, and he's like, her name is Ellie in

961
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: the thing, and he's like, who do you think you're

962
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: talking to? Deborah, which is his like dead ex wife,

963
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: but he does it in this way where he's like

964
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: he can't even I think he's like he's never actually

965
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: been that angry in his life. Yeah. Yeah, so even

966
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: when he has to play like this like maniacal guy

967
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: who murdered his ex wife and his stalking this woman,

968
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like, I'm just sorry, Omar.

969
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's in your wheelhouse man. Yeah,

970
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: but man, he was uh yeah, the strength of Willie

971
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Mays Hayes. You know, you gotta watch it seriously, all right,

972
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: old guard, he was William Mays His Did they in

973
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: the second one recast it or did they just say

974
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: he was like his cousin because it was with Wesley

975
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Snipes in the first one. He's Willie Mays Hayes in

976
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: the first one, and then in the second one, yeah,

977
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: he's also Willie Mays Heyes, So they just didn't really

978
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: say they were just like, yeah, they just did the

979
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: uh what do you mean now? Same? Are you sure? Yeah?

980
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: But I mean Snipes is could have probably pulled that

981
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: roll off, right Snipes, Yeah, because we know we've seen

982
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: Snipes he's I mean not that he's like the best,

983
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: the greatest, actor, but being a little off is definitely

984
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: in his wheelhouse. Being cool, like you know, Omar Epps

985
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: is like in the wood, you know, and like loving basketball.

986
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: Like there's just things where I watch out of respect

987
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: for the body of work, you know what I mean. Well,

988
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: I I'm waiting for the Blade reboot. Anything that doesn't

989
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: take Snipes away from the Blade reboot I'm on board with.

990
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: But anything that distracts him, I'm a million percent against it.

991
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 1: Who is the lead and the Blade reboot? Uh? I

992
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: don't you know? I wish it was Wesley Snipes Jack

993
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: to the point where I refused to google it because

994
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, we all need a dream to hold onto.

995
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I I don't think it's Leslie

996
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: Snipes though, unfortunately, do you know anything about it? I

997
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: just know there is a reboot Itchelity that's gonna be dope. Uh.

998
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Academy Award winner, That's the other thing. Does mirchel ality

999
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: be like, hey man, look, I kind of I know

1000
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: I told you all yes to this kind of win

1001
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: the Academy Award. I mean, like, you know, when I

1002
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: was down here, I could do those Blade reboot type roles.

1003
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of up here now. So if it's

1004
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: not about like, uh, you know, maybe a a vampire

1005
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: hunter who's also a driver for a problematic jazz musician,

1006
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: uh driving through the sixties South, maybe we could do

1007
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: something well. Speaking of love and basketball, because The Old

1008
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: Guard was directed by the same director as Loving Basketball,

1009
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: so the Old Guard is um It's basically the idea

1010
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: is that there's uh like four immortal people or five

1011
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: immortal warriors on the planet. It's a dope concept. Is

1012
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: basically like one of those like modern like Peter Berg

1013
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: action movies like warr movies mixed with Highlander, so like

1014
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: the Back in the Day battle scenes. Like it's a

1015
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: solid like Taken sequel level action movie where it's like

1016
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: it was fun to watch, Yeah, Taken sequel, not original takeing.

1017
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: It's not like a classic. It's just like, I just

1018
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: like the way I'm gonna watch it, just off the

1019
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: strength of that description. She does something really cool. It's

1020
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: so good you don't even want to describe it. You

1021
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: just want to tease that is cooled. So they like

1022
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: do cool things with the action premise of these people

1023
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: can't be killed. They know it. Unfortunately, everybody who they're

1024
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: fighting against also knows it, and yet it's like, you

1025
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 1: know how in a kung fu movie the bad guys

1026
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: keep coming at the hero one at a time and

1027
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: you just have to ignore that. Now, imagine if that

1028
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: happened in slow motion, because every time, like these bad

1029
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: guys who the one thing they know about them is

1030
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: that they can't be killed, they keep killing them and

1031
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: then turning around and being like, well, that did it,

1032
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: or or being like killing them and then leaving the room. Um,

1033
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: And it's just you really have to suspend uh disbelief

1034
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: and also like have to wonder why they're not just

1035
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: beheading them because like we don't know, like they they

1036
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: literally like can just heal, but they don't. It's not

1037
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: like you can be behad. You can like put yourself

1038
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: back together or not. It would take a long time

1039
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: to put yourself back together, or if you were blown up,

1040
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: like I don't know what how how that would work.

1041
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: And they hope you don't ask that question during the movie, um,

1042
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: because no one else did. Um. But they there's also

1043
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,479
Speaker 1: some really corny ship where they like at one point

1044
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, let's go San Paolo in this

1045
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: final raid. Uh San Paolo thirty four what happened in

1046
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: San Polo in nineteen thirty four, and Charlie is throns

1047
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: like eighteen thirty four, you'll see because like she would

1048
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: specify nineteen thirty four, it's just one of thirty four

1049
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: know nothing before that, zero four three four it it

1050
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: like it really. The thing that is a bummer is

1051
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: if you gave this movie like more thought and a

1052
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: little bit more budget, um, it could have been so dope,

1053
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: like the the way that they treat like So it

1054
00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: turns out like she's been doing this since like basically

1055
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: way before the Crusades. Yeah, since um, and she's been

1056
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: like she has this like she's kind of woven this

1057
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: web through history where she's saving people like two generations

1058
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: before they're offspring, like cure polio or diabetes or like

1059
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: all these different things. So it's like this cool idea

1060
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: where she's like an instrument for God and like all

1061
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: these people are. But like the they have like these

1062
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: historic battle scenes that are like Xeno Warrior Princess level,

1063
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: Like they just look like people wearing hats and wigs,

1064
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: like riding around me in Kansas, it's just so bad.

1065
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: Fly off when they're riding a horse, you're like the

1066
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: Week flew Off. Um. Yeah, it's I don't know, it's

1067
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: pretty It's a dope premise, and I could see them

1068
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: like now that it's been a big success, like really

1069
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: devoting some time to to it, um and like making

1070
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: it if it gets better and better, like the Fast

1071
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 1: and Furious franchise, like it could go in some really

1072
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Speaker 1: cool directions. Even though Charlie's thrown is a little bit

1073
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: of a I don't know, she's like just kind of

1074
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: serious and boring, Like I wish she had like you

1075
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: could have gone right, she's the old head, but like

1076
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: you could have gone in the direction of like she

1077
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: like all of her historic experience like just makes her

1078
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,439
Speaker 1: this like genius because she knows everything Like I would

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01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: have preferred like a Tony Stark like level, like I

1080
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: just like am on fire with all the knowledge of

1081
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: history that I've lived through. But instead she just seems

1082
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: like bummed out by it. It's like, yeah, it's she's

1083
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: just like ship. There's also like the central question of

1084
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: the movie is like wait, why why don't you just

1085
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: let them like study your d n A and then

1086
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: we can like make everybody like like cure all these diseases. Yeah,

1087
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: if you know, if you have this knowledge, like why

1088
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: just sit on it? And their answer is because the

1089
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: the pharma company that like what they're the main bad

1090
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: guy bad guys is a pharma company. Yeah, it's called

1091
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Smith Klein called Merrick, which is basically just like guy

1092
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: is Mr Merrick. He's like a young, funny looking guy

1093
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: played Yeah. Yeah, basically he's supposed to be screlly and

1094
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: uh he's just like impossibly evil and he's just like

1095
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: I will torture them as much as I want. Who

1096
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: says I can't dump toxic waste in the ocean? Okay,

1097
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: So like with the premise like this where people are

1098
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: fucking invincible, usually like with Superman whoever, we know that

1099
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: people have a weakness, you know, like everybody, even if

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01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: you're invincible, you have a weakness because otherwise we're just

1101
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: watching God's fun it up. And while that can be fun, uh,

1102
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't always create enough conflict. So what they do

1103
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: they have a weakness? I know, you're like, why don't

1104
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: they cut their heads off? Is that the thing like

1105
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: decapitation or what's not even Yeah, the their weakness would

1106
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: be that like they can like they die for momentarily

1107
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: and then they're able to like heal like Wolverine like

1108
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: the bullets, like they spit the bullets. Yeah, that that

1109
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And also eventually their time is through

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01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: and Charlie is thrown who is the oldest of the

1111
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: of the Old Guard. By the way, this seems like

1112
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: it should be the title for like a movie starring

1113
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood and Tommy Lee Jones as like old cowboys

1114
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: who like called space cowboys actually, but she eventually like

1115
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: stopped healing, so like that is something that can happen. Oh,

1116
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: so it's like the Star and Mario, like it wears

1117
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: off at a certain point, and then you're after thousand

1118
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: years and they have not there's no rhymer reason. So

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01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: it's not really a weakness as much as it's just

1120
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: like an eventuality, right, because you think they'd be like, well,

1121
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that will knock them out of their

1122
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: immortal immortality is this, because then you usually that's what

1123
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: those films are building towards. So at a certain point,

1124
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: it's like if these people already killing them and not

1125
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: doing anything about it and not even knowing what to do,

1126
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: then I'm like, yeah, I guess it would become a

1127
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: little like you just get irritated. You're like, well, they

1128
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: don't even die, they don't even have to do. There's

1129
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: a million weaknesses because like you could bury them alive

1130
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: and they'd just be underground four thousands of years in

1131
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: the worst situation, have superhuman strength, like you could put

1132
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: superhuman strength at all, Like they come back pour them

1133
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: into the foundation of a building. Yeah, that's shot space,

1134
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: that's what the fuck. Then, So they're irritating. They've been

1135
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: kind of like going along like in secret and that

1136
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: they've just been discovered. That's sort of the inciting incident

1137
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: is that the CIA discovers existence or one of the

1138
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: guys from the CIA um but one of the people

1139
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: has been underwater in an Iron Maiden for like five years,

1140
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: just drowning repeatedly. So they do kind of address that

1141
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: as like this could really suck, Like this could be

1142
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: very bad. All right, this person is just like the

1143
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: O A over and over and over again. Yeah, yeah,

1144
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: just over and over and overwning and over. Yeah. Yeah,

1145
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: there will be a sequel, right, I think Charlie's their

1146
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: own was talking about it. Yeah. So it ends with this,

1147
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it ends with a pretty cool like oh

1148
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: ship that Basically, it's the well I won't I won't

1149
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: spoil it for people, Like they're clearly trying to make

1150
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: a cinematic universe, and it could be a cool cinematic

1151
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: universe if they give the screenwriter, like find a new screenwriter,

1152
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: or give them more than like ten minutes to be like, okay,

1153
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: just something with Charlie Charlie staring, yeah yeah, or build

1154
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: build the world a little bit because there's no offense.

1155
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad people are working in any creative aspect,

1156
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: but uh, some of what you describe sounds a little

1157
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: bit like a four thirty PM on a Friday meeting,

1158
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Like there's definitely some of that. So

1159
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, do does he ever dismember them or

1160
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: cut their heads? That's like how where was the nerd

1161
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: the resident nerd geek person to hold it down for

1162
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: all geek them and nerd um to be like how

1163
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: the fund do they die? How can then somebody should

1164
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, then I could just put them

1165
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: in concrete. There's a script right there? Boom done. Huh.

1166
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: I feel like too much of pitching in Hollywood. This

1167
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: is the theory I'm coming up with on the spot.

1168
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like too much of being a screenwriter,

1169
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: a successful screenwriter is being good in a room, Like

1170
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: you have to be able to be charismatic and pitch stuff,

1171
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you're going to be good at

1172
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: in fact, it like think about how many yeah, think

1173
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: about how many people who are like brilliant nerds who

1174
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: would make like a script like this really sing, but

1175
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: like like can't be in a room with other people

1176
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: without you know, uh, swiling himselves. I think about it

1177
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: all the time. Man, any time you see an interview

1178
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: with uh, like tremendously talented writers and respect and stuff.

1179
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name names because I do love

1180
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: these people in their work, but it's so often i'll

1181
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: watch an interview on video or watch them, you know,

1182
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 1: interacting contemporaneously and uh and uh then I have to

1183
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: think or extemporaneously rather and then I have that moment

1184
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: where I go, oh shit, that's why you write it down, bro,

1185
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: just now got it off. But also like think about

1186
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: like Quentin Tarantino, like in a room for fifteen minutes,

1187
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna blow you away because he's just like, you know,

1188
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: just like speaking a million miles minute and like just

1189
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: hitting you with all the ideas. But there's probably like

1190
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: ninety Quentin Tarantinos, who first of all aren't white men,

1191
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: so that was all cut blocked from the business for

1192
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: most of history. But also like are awkward and like,

1193
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: you know, ship then when it's time to pitch as

1194
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: opposed to just like yo, like I just emailed you

1195
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: a great idea, why do I need to come in

1196
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: and sit in front of you like the jock from

1197
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: high school who from the studio, the royal court, you know,

1198
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: of artists, that's where it's like I I'm the gatekeeper.

1199
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: Now bring me your wares so I may cast my

1200
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: gaze upon your putrid offerings and say we'll get back

1201
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: to you, you know, like it's I think there's that

1202
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: there is a feeling of like the court, you know,

1203
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 1: like where you're like and then you will pitch to me.

1204
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: And even though I'm only in this job because I

1205
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: came from the marketing department and had some good like

1206
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: marketing ideas for the launch of a film, I found

1207
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: myself in the development position and now I'm like, m

1208
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: this feels good, but I don't I don't know the

1209
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: first thing, I mean, what do we do here, So

1210
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 1: sounds like it'll do well. Charlie's there, and I like

1211
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: that it's got enough plot to it so real. It's

1212
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: like it's like the finished the pitch and then somebody,

1213
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: somebody kind of like turns around and they're there and

1214
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, the fingers right steeply. Other figures

1215
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: you know. Um My cousin watched Highlander three? Have you

1216
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: heard of that? I think we do Highlander. My four

1217
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: year old like lizards. I want a lizard with a Highlander.

1218
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get who's not dead? Philip seymore Hoppin.

1219
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: Do we have him? Okay, we need to update the

1220
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: wheel everyone, Yeah, because it does feel like I don't

1221
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: I remember in blank Man, that fantastic comedy film with

1222
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: Damon Wayne's and David Allen Greer, there was a moment

1223
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: where he works for this like hard copy type show,

1224
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: and the way they were writing there still is the

1225
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: literal dartboard, which is like adjective verbs now, and they're

1226
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: like mutant garbage man are exposing themselves. Like it was

1227
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: just like that sort of like sort of scattershot way

1228
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: of making a news story that so many times I

1229
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: think just with the way we look at all these

1230
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Netflix films, it's almost like they know this. It is

1231
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: sort of like there are certain pieces that we can

1232
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: interchange with anything. As long as like these two to

1233
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: three things are always consistent, then we know it'll be

1234
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: enough to lure someone in for the two minutes we

1235
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: need for the view. Yeah. Man, Yeah, I'm still gonna

1236
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: watch both of these, though, I just want to be

1237
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 1: clear about that. You guys sold me off the Kiki

1238
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: Palmer ending the how cool it is what she does

1239
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: to the boss at the end, I said, the main

1240
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: bad guy. I thought it was like whatever we we got,

1241
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: we got time, you know. And also with the beauty

1242
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: of fast Forward, I could just go to that part.

1243
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: Uh all right, right, well, Ben, it's been a pleasure

1244
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: having you. I need to obviously let you go to

1245
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: go watch The Old Guard. And fatal Affair is that

1246
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: what we're calling it? Yeah? Uh, because that's the name

1247
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, fatal affair. I mean that's so close

1248
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: to fatal attraction. It's no wonder that he wrote fatal

1249
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: attraction on your summary miles that it was did Yeah,

1250
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: it was between risky attraction, right about infernal? How about

1251
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: infernal affair? I think that's infernal an internal affair. Yeah,

1252
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: it's the what the department is based on. Ben. Pleasure

1253
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: having you? Where can people find you? Follow you here? You? Ah? Yeah,

1254
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: so thanks for having me and guys, always a pleasure

1255
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: you can find you can find not just me, but

1256
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: also the Daily Zeitgeist own Miles Gray and Jack O'Brien

1257
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: making an appearance on Ridiculous History. We may have even

1258
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: more of more cameos in the future. That's a show

1259
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: about everything that is ridiculous throughout human history. Spoiler, We're

1260
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: never gonna run out episodes on that one. Uh. You

1261
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: can also find me at stuff they don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know, which is all over the internet. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: can find me personally as an individual on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Ben Bolan on Instagram in a burst of creativity,

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Speaker 1: and I'm at Ben bullin hs W on Twitter. M

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Speaker 1: And is there a tweet or some other work of

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Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. I have been enjoying, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the a tweet recently by our our colleague or you

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Speaker 1: love our Bridget Todd Bridget Marie on Twitter. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you guys probably may have already talked about this but

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Speaker 1: she came up with them. She came up with a

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Speaker 1: tweet I really loved about the passing of John Lewis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that blew up our reddit. Actually, oh did it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. It was great and it seems like

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing that, uh, the man himself would

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Speaker 1: really enjoy. Uh he I didn't know this for a

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Speaker 1: long time, but uh, later in life he went into

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Speaker 1: comic con cause played as himself during the Civil rights

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Speaker 1: are and and lead children on the march, and I

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Speaker 1: just thought that was beautiful. So I like that tweet,

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Speaker 1: and it was you know, I tried to do the

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Speaker 1: right thing and not pick a dick joke for this tweet. Hey,

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Speaker 1: so that that was not the right thing, but it

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Speaker 1: was a good tweet that you picked. So um, we

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Speaker 1: we do appreciate dick jokes. Miles where could people find

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Speaker 1: you and follow you? Yes? Oh, before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: I do want to mention the No Ban Act, which

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Speaker 1: will be voted on the House floor on Wednesday. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is going to essentially repeal the entire administration's Muslim

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Speaker 1: travel band and also keep other travel bands from taking

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Speaker 1: place that are based on race or religion. Uh. If

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Speaker 1: you know, if you can, please leave a message, email

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Speaker 1: your representatives and let them know that you want them

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Speaker 1: to support this act because we're we're we're fighting on

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Speaker 1: so many dimensions right now. This is a little bit

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Speaker 1: you can do that can go a long way. Now

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Speaker 1: if you want to find me Twitter and Instagram Miles

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Speaker 1: of Gray. Also my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance,

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Speaker 1: where we talk about ninety day Fiance. Let's see a

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Speaker 1: tweet that I like. Okay, this is from at Oky

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Speaker 1: Corey c O R r. I. It says, I personally

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Speaker 1: think Cinderella should have lived a happily happy life with

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Speaker 1: all her animal friends rather than settle for a man

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Speaker 1: who had to try on his shoe because he didn't

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Speaker 1: recognize her without makeup. That is amazing that like that

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Speaker 1: is we always talk about how dumb it is that,

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Speaker 1: like we can't people couldn't tell Superman and Clark Kenner

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Speaker 1: the same person despite classes. Cinderella is the same person.

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Speaker 1: She's just got an up do versus her hair down,

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Speaker 1: damning indictment of the patriarchy. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying from

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Speaker 1: Zach Fox, He tweeted moaning during sex as primitive. Both

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Speaker 1: people should just say bra at a gradually increasing volume.

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Speaker 1: So we got the falcon in there. Uh. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at daily Zekeeys, were at d

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Speaker 1: Daily zycheis on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zikeys dot com, where we post

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Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnote link off to the information

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Speaker 1: that we talked about today's episode, as well as the

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Speaker 1: song we ride out on mild What are we gonna

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Speaker 1: write out on today? Look? I just like a good cover,

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Speaker 1: and I like a cover that takes a song sort

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Speaker 1: of like in another direction. This is a track from

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Speaker 1: I Believe. He's a Dutch artist is from Amsterdam, uh

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Speaker 1: named Benny Sinks, and it's a cover of passion Fruit

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Speaker 1: from Drizzy. But it's like if the beat is already

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Speaker 1: kind of corny obviously, but this guy really kind of

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Speaker 1: takes it to like almost like animal crossing soundtrack level,

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Speaker 1: like flipping it to the animal to a passion fruit.

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Speaker 1: So it's just a fun little way to sort of

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Speaker 1: get your shoulders on, and it's not too intense. It

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Speaker 1: just feels like a nice soothing salve for your ears.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we are going to ride out on

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Speaker 1: that the daily zeitgeist of the production of My Heart

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for this morning.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye, past seeing you got me too listed cansing

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