1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of four, 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah hart Hunger. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing position and blogger. On 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode forty seven, which is 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: originally airing in late June, and it is summer at 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: least for our listeners in the Northern Hemisphere. I forget. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes we get emails from all over and it's great. 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: So we love our international listeners and I guess for 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: that are Australian listeners who are entering winter as we're 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: talking here. But yeah, so are you doing a lot 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: of summer reading? Sarah, Yeah, I was. I was just 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: putting together my summer reading list. It's not really a 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: formal list. It was more just like I realized I 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: needed to put in a lot of library holds, so 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: I did. I used the Modern Missus Darcy Summer Reading 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: Guide mostly and picked several that looked really juicy, and 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: I put them all on hold, and I figure, whatever 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: comes up from the whole list is what I'm going 25 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: to read, because I a lot of them had like, 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 1: you know, forty seven active requests already. But it fast, 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. Yeah. So with that though, 28 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, because there's like this whole management strategy then, right, 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: because what are you going to do if like six 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: of them come up at the same time. Oh god, 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they will. I don't I don't have 32 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: a strategy if that happens. Yeah, I guess I'll just 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'll return them and get on get on 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: the list again. That's my strategy. Yeah, I guess you 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: know what I thought. I don't have a good library 36 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: hold strategy. But every side you can sort of see 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: from that. If you were really really sad about not 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: able to read a tod then you could just go 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: buy that one. Yes, absolutely, if I was like, oh, 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: and it's true. Actually, I'm most excited probably for Frederick 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: Bachman's sequel to bear Town that's coming out. I forget 42 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: what the actual sequels called. But it's very exciting because 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: I loved Beartown and I actually didn't love some of 44 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: his I read A Man called Ove and wasn't a 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: big fan, but then I loved Beartown. So the fact 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: that he decided to expand those characters made me excited. 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: And then there's been a lot of buzz on the 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: An American Marriage by T Gary Jones, and so yeah, 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: if I don't get those by I would say mid 50 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: July or August, I will be buying them. Yeah, and 51 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: you just had your first parenting book club, right, Yes, Well, 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I guess this goes with our goals discussion because it 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: was one of our goals we did our first parenting 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: This is something I've had, like on the list of 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: things that I've wanted to do for probably a year. 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I got the idea for my friend Erica in Chapel 57 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: Hill who listens hi Erica, and she was part of 58 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: this quarterly parenting book club, and I was so jealous 59 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be in one too, so I 60 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: figured I would have to start one. And we had 61 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: our very first installment at our house last weekend, and 62 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: we actually had a babysitter just to kind of control 63 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: the big kids so that we didn't have to hold it, 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, super late, like past their bedtime. We did 65 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: take out pizza to be a pizza, pizza, sushi, I 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: forget something, and so we made it super easy and 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: then we all hung out and drank wine and talked 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: about our kids in the book. And our first installment 69 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: was using Naomi Schaeffer Riley's Be a Parent, Please, which 70 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: focuses a lot on you know, the use of technology 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: and kids. And I picked it because I figured it 72 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: had a lot of fodder for debate and it was. 73 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: It was awesome, and everyone wants to keep doing it, 74 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: and we already have a date picked for July, and 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: another member has offered to hosts. So I would, I'm 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: I would consider the launch of success how many how 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: many people? Is it like couples or is it just Yeah? 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: So the first one was three couples in addition to 79 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: Josh and I. One of the spouses actually couldn't make it, 80 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: so it was like two and a half couples, so 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: seven people total. I think the next one's going to 82 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: be bigger because there were a couple that were really 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: interested that couldn't make it to this one, and one 84 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: that had just had a baby that you know she's 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna be ready soon but wasn't quite ready. So I 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: think it'll probably be five couples. For the second, we're 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: trying to keep it fairly intimate so that it's I mean, 88 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: to some extent, it's just sort of an excuse to 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: all get together. But adding the fact that we're reading 90 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: the book is fun. And at the first one there 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: was the most hilarious discussion of like, you know, how 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: to get your husband to read the book because some 93 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: are different than others. Josh was like super happy to 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: do it. He loved the idea, although he also says, Okay, 95 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: if we're doing a parenting book club, I'm also starting 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: a sci fi book club, and I want you to 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: help me do that. So now, I mean, that's fair. 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: But so he happily read the book and so did 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: you know one of the other spouses and then one 100 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of them, the wife, had put a post it note 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: on the book that was like book club, please read 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and he announced that like he's like, I'm not going 103 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: to read that effing book because there was a post 104 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: it on it. So you know, we all had. Then 105 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: a discussion we spun off into a discussion of Gretchen 106 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Rubin's Four Tendencies, because clearly that guy was a total rebel. 107 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: Like it was a really it was a really fun night. 108 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: It was. I highly recommend doing something like that if 109 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for a way to get parents together to 110 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, all those kinds of issues in 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: a fun setting. Oh gosh, well, I'm about to, like, 112 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: when we're done with this, I'm gonna email Naomi until 113 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: tell her you did that, because she'll be, oh, yeah, 114 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I should have done that. Maybe, you know, because I 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: have a little bit of connections at this point with 116 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: the podcast, maybe in the future I'll see if I can, like, 117 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, get get an author to give me a 118 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: SoundBite or something rightly good. That's definitely of the parenting 119 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: books I've read recently, I would say that was one 120 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: of the more would create good discussion fodder because I 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: think people would have strong feelings about it. Naomi never 122 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: mince his words, and so she was definitely telling people like, 123 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: just stop being like wishy washy about what you want 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: to do, Like, if you want to ban whatever from 125 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: your kid, just do it. Do it. Just do it. 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: So that was Yeah, that's that's awesome. I'm impressed you're 127 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: starting book clubs. That's just I'm not doing any book clubs. 128 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: In fact, that my summer reading is somewhat Yeah. I 129 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: bet you're going to read a ton this summer, though. 130 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any special picks? I don't know. I 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: just I haven't put a whole lot of thought into 132 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: it because I've been putting all sort of discretionary time 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: lately into work with my own book launch. Off the 134 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: Clock came out as we're recording this in early June. 135 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: The book came out last week and so, and there 136 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: were so many positive reviews and mentions like it seems 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: like everyone is loving it. That's I hope. So if 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: people are listening to this and haven't purchased it yet, 139 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: please go do. It'd be a nice way to support 140 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: our podcast, which you know, we we we don't give 141 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: you ads at this point, but it would be great 142 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: if you could buy the books, and Stera will have 143 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: something in the future that you can you can purchase. 144 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the plan at least, but yeah, no, So 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: I just actually I finished Scott Jerrek's book North, which 146 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: is a cool runner Jenny Jerrick, his wife Jrek It. 147 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: It was interesting. It took me a while to get 148 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: into because I don't know. At the beginning, it was 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: just a bit like, oh, why are we a bit 150 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: overwrought to like what we're going to do with the 151 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Apple Chic Joe. But then I got really into it 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: as he's on the trail running, which if you think 153 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: about the craziness of this, this is a twenty one 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: hundred mile trail from Georgia to Maine, and he to 155 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: get the record had to run it in forty six 156 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: days and eleven hours I think was the record, and 157 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: he wound up running it forty six days and eight hours. 158 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: So it was very cool. It was good, yeah, And 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: he was so exhausted by the end of it because 160 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: he wasn't sleeping right. He was sleeping like two hours 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: a night for the last three or four days in 162 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: order to hit that goal at the end. So it's 163 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: sort of fascinating to hear about the mental game that 164 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: is involved in getting through something like that. And I've 165 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: interviewed Amelia Boone, who is a well known ultra or 166 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: slash obstacle course racer, and the way these people talk 167 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: about suffering and pain and sort of mentally tre just 168 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: getting over it is fascinating. I knew Jerk had hit 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: the record, so it speaks to a book that even 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: though though you know exactly how it comes out, like 171 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, you can just look online and see that 172 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: he got the record right, but yeah, you're still at 173 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: the end like, oh my gosh, is he actually going 174 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to be able to do that? So I actually really 175 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,479 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. Yeah, I feel like even yeah, the logistics 176 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: of it and hearing what the emotions were like through 177 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: that would be really fascinating. So now I got to 178 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: figure out my next book. I need to set some 179 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: time on top side and figure out what I'm going 180 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: to spend some time reading this summer. But well, speaking 181 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of reading, you don't set specific book number goals, do you? 182 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember, did you for last year? No? I don't. 183 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: I think last year. Once I realized I was closed, 184 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I read at least one 185 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: hundred books round number. But it wasn't like I had 186 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: a specific number, partly because the thing with books, there's 187 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: a number of very short books out there in the world, 188 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: and so if you're just trying to hit a number. 189 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: You can be a little silly about the goals and say, well, 190 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm only going to read these tiny books, those pamphlet 191 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: pampoot type books that should have been just a online 192 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: story and somebody convinced somebody to turn it into a 193 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: printed book, so you could always do that. So I 194 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: guess I wasn't so focused on the book number itself. 195 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to have a better reading life, and I think, 196 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, I've been satisfied with that, but I can 197 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: see myself flipping into these certain habits of not putting 198 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the thought into well what am I going to read next? 199 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: And when I don't put the thought into it, that's 200 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: when I wind up reading a lot of the magazine 201 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: stuff or just you know, whatever is sort of sitting around, 202 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: which may not be what I really want to read. 203 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: I get sent a lot of books just through work 204 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: related stuff, and some are good and some are not, 205 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: but you know a lot of them are kind of 206 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: this stuff that I I would pick up to read 207 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: that I don't really want to be reading more of. 208 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: So I want to read more of the novels. Yeah, 209 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: so I need to put more time into that. But 210 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: this is a good transition to our goals, which I 211 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: forgot to mention is actually our topic today, our twenty 212 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: eighteen goals, How are coming along on them, how we 213 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: would like to do them? So remind our listeners, Sarah, 214 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: how did you set your goals for this year? So 215 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I kind of decided to divide the year into quintiles, 216 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: which is a little unusual, but it was a sort 217 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: of a natural decision just because I thought about, how 218 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: while I have attorney leave, and then I have that 219 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: sort of back to work piece, and then there's the summer, 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: and then I felt like the rest of the year 221 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: was too big to be just one giant quarter. So 222 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: I figured that there would be kind of like a 223 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: back to school quintile and then like an end of 224 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: the year one. So yeah, I set my goals, my 225 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: overarching goals, just I didn't do any like yearly lists really. 226 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Instead I did Q one and Q two, and we're 227 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: actually coming to the end of Q two, so this 228 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: is good timing and it is kind of amazing to 229 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: think we are halfway by the time this airs through 230 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, so it's nice milestone, you know, to see 231 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: if there are things that I'd love to get done 232 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: this year. What needs to happen between now and the end. Yeah, Well, 233 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: I had set mine quarterly, which I guess is slightly 234 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: which is similar, but yeah, but more normal, but more 235 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: normal than the quintile. And I realized as I was 236 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: putting together in the notes for this episode that I 237 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: had never blogged or written or shared my quarterly goals 238 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: for twenty eighteen. And I think I was feeling a 239 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: little bit gold out or something at the end of 240 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the year and didn't feel like putting them out or whatever. 241 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: So I had to go back hunting through my notebook 242 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: to find where they were, which sells shows you right 243 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: there that I probably wasn't that keen on them in 244 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,359 Speaker 1: the first place if they weren't posted somewhere like prominently 245 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: on my desk, like these are things I really wish 246 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: to do this year. So I guess I could just 247 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: run through some of them, now, should I do that? 248 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: And reminder listeners how you divide into different categories. Yeah, 249 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: So for each quarter, I set a personal goal, a 250 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: relationships goal, and a career goal, and that's just to 251 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: sort of have broad I did it. And the reason 252 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: to do it quarterly as well is that I guess 253 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: it's more things you can put in. And then it's 254 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: also you don't feel like you have to do them 255 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: all at once. So if there's something I know that 256 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: I want to do but I feel like the beginning 257 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: of the year has too much going on, I can say, well, 258 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: that's something i'll do in the summer. Ll that's something 259 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: I'll do in the fall, and you get these four 260 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: fresh starts as opposed to thinking you have to do 261 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: everything in January, which is never really going to work. 262 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: So for Q one, I don't necessarily go for all 263 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the goals. Then I set down so clearly again this 264 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: wasn't all that well thought through, like I really honestly 265 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: want to do these things. So for Q one, for 266 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the personal I said I wanted to do a personal 267 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: record for a mile, and I did not. Did you 268 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: have a plan for training for that or you thought 269 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: it would just no? And I think partly the reason 270 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: it isn't is because I don't actually have to train 271 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: to get a personal record, because I run so slowly 272 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: that I can. In fact, I could probably go downstairs 273 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: on my treadmill right now and set a pr like 274 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: just today to decide to do it, which because the 275 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: fastest my life. Ever, run is seven thirty five, and 276 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I know that is actually not the fastest I can 277 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: run a mile, you know, so you should beat that today. 278 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I could beat that today. I could walk down and 279 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: set the treadmill on eight miles per hour and just 280 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: keep it at that, and that would be seven thirty. 281 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: But I so, why didn't I do it? That's that's 282 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: a fascinating question. I don't know. I guess maybe because 283 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at these goals. But I did not 284 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: do that. In Q one, so I can analyze that relationships. 285 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to do our spring break trip with the 286 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: big kids. We went to London and the UK and 287 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: we did that, so that was fun work. I said, 288 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: write a dozen sonnets. I keep telling myself, I want 289 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: to do a collection of sonnets, you know, fourteen lines 290 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: them pentameter poems. I did three, so I guess three 291 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: is better than none. But it's not twelve. Problem of three. 292 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: Pretty good setting very specific goals. Maybe I should have 293 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: said right one. Then I would be like, look, I 294 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: beat my goal three times over, and like I've only 295 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: did twenty five percent of my goal. Q two personal 296 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: complete home renovation. That is a big yes. We had 297 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: all sorts of ridiculousness with the house this spring, and 298 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: I guess I was at least rational with that that 299 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I've set that as a goal for Q two as 300 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: opposed to Q one. In my mind, I thought we 301 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: would get through it quicker. And it's not that they 302 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: took a long time once they started. It was mostly 303 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: a five week project with a handful of visits later. 304 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: But we didn't break ground until March twenty three on it, 305 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: which was almost the end of Q one. So I 306 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: kind of all that pre work would have happened faster. 307 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I know everyone says the projects take longer than you 308 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: think it will, but it wasn't that we were out 309 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: of our kitchen for longer than we thought, we were 310 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: out of my master bathroom for longer than we thought. 311 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: It was just that the prep work seemed to go 312 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: on for a while. So yeah, I think that is 313 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: actually really fast from our experience, at least down here, 314 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of I guess there's more people wanting 315 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: work done than there are workers to do it, So 316 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: people will like sign up to start a project and 317 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: like something better will come along, they'll disappear for three months. 318 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: You like can't reach, like, so I think you're I 319 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: think you were really tight. Actually well, and I don't 320 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: think this is random either. So I had three groups 321 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: of contractors come in to give bids, and I think 322 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: all of them were great, but one seemed sort of 323 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: more professionally organized than the other, Like it was a 324 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: big company been here for years. It seemed that they 325 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: were more like when you asked for something, it got 326 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: there very quickly, Like they had multiple people assigned to 327 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the administration of it. Like it's though the prep work 328 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: took a long time. But I felt like they weren't 329 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: going to disappear, and they didn't. I mean, once they 330 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: assigned people to it, they were there. And so that 331 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: was a key thing because you know, and I'm not 332 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: even sure that people mean, you know, nefarious things, it's 333 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: just you know, some other job. There's a problem. They 334 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: have to get somebody over there, and so then they're 335 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: not at your place, or the permitting process takes longer 336 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: than they think it will. And what actually happened for 337 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: us is the permits of course took longer than they 338 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: will because you're dealing with municipal government. But you know, 339 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: they actually still had the people there here and they 340 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: would work on something else while they were waiting for 341 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: the inspector to get over. So, to give you perspective, 342 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: we were having some outside work done and they started 343 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: it before the hurricane and then it got finished cut 344 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: that was last September and it finished in May because 345 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: they they had a lot of hurricane related work. I 346 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: guess that was very lucrative and more more and more 347 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: exciting than all right, well, okay, so I'm happy about that. 348 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: That has been good. You did good. Mark on the 349 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: relationship goals, I said, run a half marathon with Michael 350 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: and we we I had signed up for one that 351 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: was this past weekend, June three, and it just was 352 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: not going to work with the schedule for me to 353 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: run a half marathon on that day without various other 354 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: things not happening. But we had run the Broad Street 355 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: ten miler together in early May, so I think that 356 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: counts running a distance race together. And one of the 357 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: good things of setting these as goals, like as specific goals, 358 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: is I mean, I was just sharing this with you 359 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: and our thousands of listeners quietly here. He may have 360 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: been undertrained for it, so he's running a bit, you know, 361 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: slower than I think I would have for that particular race, 362 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: but because it was a goal to run with him, 363 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: like I said, well, let's just finish it together. You know, 364 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: he was saying like, why don't you run ahead? And I, no, 365 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: I'm not going to run ahead because we're going to 366 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: run this together. So we did. That's so cute though, 367 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: So we did that. Career for Q two, of my 368 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: goal is to launch off the clock, which is launched, 369 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: So I guess that was going to happen regardless of 370 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: what I did. Big check, Big check. So now you 371 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: know Q three. Couple things. Personally, I want to come 372 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: up with a philanthropy plan that I want to be 373 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more intentional about giving money to organizations 374 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: what I intend to do with it. And it's not 375 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: like I'm giving away millions here, but I think, you know, 376 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: it's enough to be no good because it's easy to 377 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: sort of just get like, oh, I'll give a little 378 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: of that because they asked, or a little bit of 379 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: and but it's like, wait, what are my real top 380 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: priorities to make sure that you're actually covering what you want, 381 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: not just who's the loudest asking for it. Yeah, yeah, No, 382 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: So I'm going to do that relationships with the Yellowstone 383 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: trip with the family later this summer, career, figure out 384 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: next book. But that's already done, got done actually in 385 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: Q one. So my next book is coming out in 386 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: March of twenty nineteen. So are you off the hook 387 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: or do you have to figure out the next book? 388 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't seem fair. I don't know. I guess 389 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: you get to decide. Well, I could, I could put 390 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: some time into think about it. Or maybe I'll just 391 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: work on finishing the novel I've been working on. So 392 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: that would be another another option. Q four personal celebrate 393 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: my fortieth relationships. I thought I'd take at least a 394 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: short trip with my husband, and then career. Well, see, 395 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: here we go. Career, I said, write something during National 396 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Novel Writing Months. That's when you do fifty thousand words 397 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: and thirty days. So maybe combine what I would be 398 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: working on the novel in Q three with Q four. 399 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: So maybe that's what I'll do. We'll see exciting. Well 400 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: that's excellent. I feel like you you did really well. 401 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there were a few randoms in there, so 402 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's like sort of like that soul searching 403 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: of like did you really want to run that pr 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: prob I guess, but otherwise I feel like, yeah, you 405 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: did really well. All right, how about you. I'm just 406 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: like realizing mine are like too complex, but don't summarize. 407 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I did really got time. We're only twenty minutes half 408 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: of this episode, that's true. And you know, interestingly, we 409 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: appreciate listener feedback, and we did get some feedback after 410 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: a couple of our sort of conversational off the cough 411 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: episodes that you really like those. So I mean that 412 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: made me happy because they're really fun to do. And 413 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: I also kind of know what you mean because in 414 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: some of my favorite podcasts, I really enjoy those episodes 415 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: as well. So even though to us, I'm like, is 416 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: this going to be boring for people, at the same time, 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I love listening to other people talk about 418 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: this kind of specific stuff, so I am hopeful that 419 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: it will not be terribly boring, but you can let 420 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: us know nicely. No, I'm just kidding either way. So Okay, 421 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: So again, I had two quintiles that have gone by 422 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: and three to come, and I'm going to mostly just 423 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: talk about what went on and not that much of 424 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: the future because I haven't really decided yet, but I 425 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: will say Q one was really good. The time that 426 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I was home with childcare. It was amazing. But you 427 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: can get done when you're was one not working and 428 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: you also have full time childcare. Yes, not sustainable, but 429 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: it was really wonderful. I feel like I got. One 430 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: of my goals was to spend focused time with the 431 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: big hits every day. I definitely did with my older one. 432 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: I did with Cameron sometimes I had tons of baby time. 433 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: I was shockingly well rested, even though she didn't sleep 434 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: that much. It was just a great time. My other 435 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: goals were to have family dinners on Sundays, and I 436 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: did do this, and I will say that the main secret, 437 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: not secret, but my main factor of success was to 438 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: have our nannygo shopping on Friday to have the ingredients, 439 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: because it was always like, oh, it's Sunday and I 440 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: didn't have the time to go to the store and 441 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: make something. But if I already had the ingredients, I 442 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: would generally use them because of course I didn't want 443 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: them to go bad, and it's much easier to cook 444 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: when you already have stuff there. So yes, Number three 445 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: was to get back into exercise and complete something called 446 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: the DM method, which was sort of to help with diastasis. 447 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: I did that for a few weeks. I then switched 448 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: to something called Mama Strong, which is similar, and I 449 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: did her core camp program and I finished it, and 450 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: so I would give that a success. I mean, did 451 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: I like get a six pack. No, but I would 452 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: say I learned a little bit about like targeting those 453 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: muscles in the right kind of a way. I would 454 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: give myself a check because I was pretty consistent with 455 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: exercise outline a future ebook or book or whatever it's 456 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: going to be. I did write a chapter list and 457 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: sort of a mini proposal and was sort of shocked 458 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: and thrilled to get contacted by someone in the industry, 459 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: which you know, nothing is in the works formally at all, 460 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: but even the fact that there was a contact with 461 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: slightly thrilling, So you know, I moved to move on 462 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: with that in the future. Kan Mari the home, I 463 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: did the essentials, I did the clothing, I did the 464 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: kids stuff, but I would not say I did a 465 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: complete job. I wrote Laura, I think you're rubbing off 466 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: on me because some of it. I was just like, eh, 467 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: maybe I don't care that much, So you know, there is. 468 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: I definitely still feel calmer when what is around me 469 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: is is fairly spare and not all over the place. 470 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't know that I 471 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: want to devote hours to like that deep clean out, 472 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: because I just I guess, you know, that's an hour 473 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: you're not doing something else. So good. Yep, combine the 474 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: kids rooms. I was dreading this, but Annabel and Cameron 475 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: are now sharing a room, and honestly, Josh has done 476 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the work to kind of get it fixed, 477 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: all of the work to get it fixed up and 478 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: ready for them, But I I helped push them along, 479 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: I guess, and it is done, and it's gone much 480 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: better than expected. Actually, I thought it would ruin the 481 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: bedtime routine, and you know, they were so I was 482 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: so used to putting Cameron to bed and then having 483 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: time with Annabel, But now we do it at the 484 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: same time. A lot of times Cameron falls asleep while 485 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: we're reading to Annabelle, so that works. But it's been 486 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: much more successful than I thought. So if you are 487 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: going to have to combine kids, don't be scared. It's okay. 488 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: And then I sort of set separate habit goals and 489 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: I tend to do this on a monthly, but I 490 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: guess I also kind of looked and saw what I 491 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: wanted to get for a quarter done, and I just 492 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: put to read something daily, which I did. I read 493 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: a lot in Q one, and to try to keep 494 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: the minutes on my phone less than ninety minutes, and 495 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: I was pretty successful during that quarter. And then finally 496 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: I had some bucket list items. One was to take 497 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: the big kids ice skating, and it didn't happen. My 498 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: husband was not that excited about it, so we didn't go. 499 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: And you know, with me having to strap, I wasn't 500 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna be able to skate with Genevieve, So if he 501 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: wasn't into it, it it wasn't gonna happen. But I'll do 502 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: it next winter because I'm excited about it. To read 503 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: ten books. I read way. I think I read like 504 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: sixteen or seventeen during that quarter. To listen to an 505 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: album daily. I did that at least through most of 506 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: January and I think part of February, and listen to 507 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: at least thirty of the top albums of twenty seventeen 508 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: according to certain websites. So that was cool. And then 509 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I had a three date nights as a goal, and 510 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I think we did two, and Genevieve might have been 511 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: present for one of them. So unfortunately, that tells me 512 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I need to I mean, I really do enjoy date nights, 513 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: but I wasn't really I wasn't really ready to leave. 514 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: I had more issues with the f eating of Genevieve 515 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: than I did with the other kids, and I just 516 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: wasn't ready to leave her. So there you go. But 517 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to work on that now that she's older. 518 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: That was q. Q one was like really good, like 519 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: I felt very on top of things. Q two, I'm 520 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: that's sort of that fifth trimester period. I went back 521 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: to work on March fifth. It's now June seventh, so 522 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: it's been three months. And I will at least say 523 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: that I set the bar really low, like I did not. 524 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I mostly put things on the list that I knew 525 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: would have to happen anyway, like Annabelle's birthday party. And 526 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: you'll see these are my goals. Were like to work 527 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: on establishing rhythms that work for that time. And I 528 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: will give I'm like, what kind of goal? What was that? 529 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: Was in a weird mood with these, But I will say, check, 530 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: I figured out I kind of have to go to 531 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: bed at like nine, and if I get it at five, 532 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I can get a little bit done before Genevieve works 533 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: wakes up, to get in any work out early because 534 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen later, and to read while 535 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm pumping. So I would say, those are the things 536 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: I've figured out that work for right now, So check. 537 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: Continue work on positive parenting. I think I'd just read 538 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: some parenting book and I don't know this is terrib well, 539 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: it might have been after the Catherine Renaldo, which I 540 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: love for philosophy, but it was too vague of a goal. 541 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll leave it to day to kind of 542 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: be really to try not to panic at work about 543 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: overload and really look at the day's plan and try 544 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: to avoid frenetic multitasking and distractions. Too vague again, and 545 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: I would say fifty to fifty. I was better at 546 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: delegation with some things, but the residency is approaching and 547 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: that's led to a lot more of these kind of 548 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: just little things that seem to pop up all the time. 549 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: While I'm also seeing patients and trying to keep up 550 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: with the documentation and trying to call patients back and 551 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: trying to pump. So it's just been really it's been challenging, 552 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's a failure on my part. 553 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: It's just a tough situation and I'm just getting through it. 554 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: Number four was to pump five times a day, and 555 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: I just accept the outcome, and shockingly, I don't even 556 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: pump five times a day. I pumped three to four times, 557 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: three at work, sometimes one at home, and it's the 558 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: outcome's been fine, better than the last round with my 559 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: second child. I'm keeping up. I still have a lot 560 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: in the freezer and I don't even really use it 561 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: in the freezer. I haven't even thought about the freezer 562 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: in a while, to be honest. And so I will 563 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: give myself a gold star because this was an epic 564 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: struggle a couple of months ago. And then number five 565 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: good nutrition, rest, like try to take care of my body. 566 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: I would say, yes, I could eat better than I 567 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: have been, but it's not been total disaster, and I've 568 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: really done well with exercise and found a routine that 569 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: I like with the workouts i'm doing now. And then 570 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: the habits were to read daily, yes, because I read 571 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: one pumping so that's kind of a forced yes. To 572 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: continue to work on staying off my phone, No, because 573 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: I also go on my phone while I'm pumping, So 574 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: there you go. To try to meditate for five minutes 575 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: a day, Nope. To cook on Sundays a few I 576 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: did it, but not consistently. And then to do like 577 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: a gratitude practice daily. I was trying to pick things 578 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: that would center me through this tough time, but no, 579 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: none of them really worked for me this time. If 580 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: you're trying to get off your way, let me back 581 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: up at this. If you're trying to be off during 582 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: the pump time, like what what would you be doing? 583 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: And is set? Are you trying to increase? Like I'd 584 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: rather I'd rather be reading And I'm happier to be 585 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: reading a book than having just then scrolling through Instagram 586 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: and the other time that I've been rolling that, I 587 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: don't really like it, and I feel better if I 588 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: was reading a book like on the Kindle app, but 589 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: instead it's been social media stuff. Is after I put 590 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: the kids to bed, I tend to lie down on 591 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: the couch in the room because they're dependent on that, 592 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: and then I end up getting sort of stuck on 593 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: the couch and either I fall asleep or I'm like wasted. 594 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just the thing. I'm actually not that 595 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: mad at myself. That's the funny thing. Even though I 596 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: didn't make my goal, I'm like and whatever, this is 597 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: what I had to do these past three months. But 598 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: I did write it down as a goal, so I 599 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: have to say I feel I don't know. I think 600 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: I think that's fine. I mean, yes, it's better to 601 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: read the e book, and I felt so. I often 602 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: have to sit in my three year old's room while 603 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: he falls asleep too. It's just either that or I'm 604 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: sitting outside the door trying to keep him from running 605 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: out and running outside, which just happened. But so you know, 606 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: when I'm good about it, I'm reading a book on 607 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: my kindle lap when I'm not thinking about it. Then 608 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm on social media and honestly it's it's like makes 609 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: it slightly nicer versus what it would be. So I 610 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: don't know, I think that's okay. Yeah, maybe my failure 611 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: was making that a goal, right, So there you go. 612 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: And then finally my sort of bucket list items I'm 613 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: really happy with. So Annabell's first drop off birthday party 614 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: check big success. Have a our Disney trip. Round three 615 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: was a success, although we were both sick and then 616 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I had like vertigo, which sucks, but it's over planning 617 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: makeovers to complete those. I did three, which was awesome 618 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: and fun, and I'm gonna actually do some follow ups 619 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: with those people parenting book Club to launch yes as 620 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: we discussed and revisit note yoga which I I didn't 621 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: because I pivoted to those beach body workouts which I 622 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: love so much, although there is a yoga workout in 623 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: there and I've been doing it, so there you go. 624 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that was pretty much it. I 625 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: don't really have Q three done yet, so maybe we'll 626 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: update you at the end of the year. How about 627 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: I've enjoyed listening to some other people's goals podcasts, so 628 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: the Am Writing Podcast with jess On kJ talking about 629 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: their writing processes and all that. They all set goals 630 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: for the year and we're talking about them. In a 631 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: recent episode, they had an interesting framework they were trying 632 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: to set. I think like three goals you can control 633 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: and three you can't, which makes me a little ant say, like, 634 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't like this idea of goals. I can't control. 635 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: But you know, because I don't even read all this 636 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: of the smart goals right that they're specific, measurable, achievable, realistic, 637 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: and time targeted or whatever. The last one is time bound, 638 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: and the achievable and realistic are important, I think in manews. 639 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: But because I guess I just don't like to set 640 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: a goal and then do everything I can and fail 641 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: at it, I guess that's the reality, and it's true. 642 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: It's like, should they really be goals? Like get my 643 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: book published? Is that a goal? Or like create an 644 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: proposal that I'm proud of, Like I can control one 645 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: but I can't control the other, or like commit to 646 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: exercising X amount of days versus like have gorgeous apps, 647 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I can control one, but I can't necessarily control 648 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: the other. So I tend to prefer the process type 649 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: goals versus the pie in the sky. It just kind 650 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: of depends on the look. Although I do understand that 651 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: people find big goals motivating sometimes, and in the sense 652 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: that if you're trying to do something which is a 653 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: huge stretch reach and you can't actually control everything, sometimes 654 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: you are really thinking hard about it. You're trying lots 655 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: of different things, and that can motivate you to do 656 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: things you wouldn't otherwise. But yeah, or even like a 657 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: race goal, like if you're like, I'm going to run 658 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: this race in this time, that's kind of a you 659 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: can't control that, but at the time same time, it 660 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: may shape your behaviors in a way that just saying 661 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: trained really hard. Yeah, So I guess there's something to 662 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: be said for that. I think you just need to 663 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: know yourself and if you're going to find a goal 664 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: that you cannot be sure you would achieve, to be 665 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: motivational or to be demotivational, and it just makes you 666 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: feel bad about yourself. So because I think, I mean, 667 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: goal setting is about feeling better about yourself, and in 668 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: my mind, maybe for other people it's not. Maybe you know, 669 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: other people think it should be solely about results and 670 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: if you don't achieve them, you should feel bad about it. 671 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's just never interesting. Yeah, I 672 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. Goals tend to make me happy whether 673 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I make them, whether I reach them or don't. If 674 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: you reach them, it's happy, and if I don't, it 675 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: sort of like helps me tailor myself for next time. 676 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: But having the active goals and the process of sitting 677 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: down and creating them definitely makes me happier. And that maybe, 678 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: I mean, some people are built differently and may not 679 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: feel that way. Yeah, so we'd love to here for 680 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: you listeners, like what you think about goals. Are you 681 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: into sort of the doable process goals, which it sounds 682 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: like mostly Sarah and I are, or do you like 683 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: this idea of setting I guess what is Jim Collins 684 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: called the big, hairy, audacious goal. You know that you're 685 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: not sure you'll reach and it has to you know, 686 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: you change all your processes and stuff to make it 687 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: even possible for that to do. If you find that motivational, 688 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: let us know, because I bet there's two goals setting 689 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: camps here in the world. We have to create a 690 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: little dichotomy for that, and maybe someone who's entirely anti goal, 691 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: that's true, that could be the third. All right, Well, 692 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: moving on to the Q and A. Yeah, so this 693 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: question is from Alison. She says I'm a little bit 694 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: behind both you in life stages. She's thirty, married, working 695 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: full time, fellow lover of planning excellent. She finds the 696 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: podcast so interesting in a looking ahead kind of way 697 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: side note, I've been fascinated at the number of notes 698 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: we've gotten from people who don't have children, who are 699 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: in sort of a pre kids stage of life, but 700 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: are listening to this podcast as I don't know. Yeah, 701 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: that's impressive, although maybe they're they're trying to make you know, 702 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: we're sort of like a goal, not a goal, but 703 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: like one vision of what it could possibly be, and 704 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: they're trying to decide if they really want to do that. 705 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, in some ways it could be hope. We're hope. 706 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, that's really cool. So she says, 707 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: my husband and I are looking to try to start 708 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: a family soon. Eventually we want multiple kids. I have 709 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: heard a lot from friends, colleagues, even this podcast about 710 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: balancing life and work after baby. But in a couple 711 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: of months before you first got pregnant, what do you 712 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: wish you had known? Are there ways you would have 713 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: organized your life, schedule, et cetera to prepare you or 714 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: do you wish you'd just all out embraced your freedom? Also, 715 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: how did you cope with early pregnancy at work, especially 716 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: when that involves travel, conferences, events, et cetera. Dealing with 717 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: low energy reduced output while keeping the pregnancy somewhat under 718 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: wraps and a demanding work sphere. So yeah, I definitely 719 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: had a few thoughts on this one. Supposed to embrace 720 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: the freedom, did you did you and your husband like, 721 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: did you guys purposely take any big I mean we 722 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: did like some trips, and I remember like we would 723 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: try to see as many like I think I went 724 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: to lots of movies while I while I was pregnant, 725 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: because it's true, either are things that are going to 726 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: become so much more difficult later, and you should try to. 727 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: If you have a buckalist destination that you don't see 728 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: being fun to do with kids, do it. So I 729 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: do think there's something research. Yeah, I mean certainly you 730 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: can travel when you have kids, either with them or 731 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: without them, So I certainly am not you know, one 732 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: of my least favorite genres of blog posts or like 733 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: the thirty things you should Do before having children, because 734 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: it implies like your life is over when you have kids, 735 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: and that is not true at all. Yes, things may 736 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: require more planning, you might require more logistical things, but 737 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: you know it was stuff on that list is always 738 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: like your skydiving. You know, I didn't want to skydive 739 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: before kids. I don't want to skydive after kids. There's 740 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: no difference, just like you're right, You're right. I would 741 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: say only if there's something like like I sort of 742 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: do wish that we had we didn't really have the 743 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: money because we were too young than never real jobs, 744 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: but like if you did, like if you know, I'd 745 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: really like to go to New Zealand. But I don't 746 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: really feel like doing that flight with kids anytime soon, 747 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: So I kind of like that would have been a 748 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: fun thing to have done before, like that kind of really, 749 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: but I mean we certainly will do that kind of 750 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: thing later with kids. It's just that in the baby 751 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: years it is a little bit more challenging to go 752 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: on a you know, eighteen hour flight. So if there 753 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: are big things, then get it out of your system. 754 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: But you're right, it is not. And I do hate 755 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: the narrative that your life is over. And I also 756 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: hate the narrative that like just wait, you'll everything's just 757 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna be horrible, like even then everything will change, Like 758 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: I this is the like, yes, I was Laura before 759 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: having kids, and I'm Laura after having kids. And I think, 760 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, if you know yourself you're going to know 761 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: yourself after you are going to be the same person. 762 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: Certain things may wind up magnified just because there are 763 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: so and stressful situations with children that don't exist without them. 764 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: But you know, people are like, oh, when I first 765 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: saw my baby's face, everything changed, Like I think you're 766 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: just a little bit dramatic, Like, you know, you're still 767 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: the same person. And you know the fact that this 768 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: person is thinking about all this stuff, probably this means 769 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: that she knows herself and it's going to be the same. 770 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you want to go to 771 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand, I guess go to New Zealand. But so 772 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: she travels for work, maybe she travels for work internationally anyway, 773 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: Like you know, so she's going to keep doing right, 774 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: so she may be having to go to New Zealand 775 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: matter or not. I think we both thought that. I mean, 776 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: once the pregnancy is definitely a go, you might want 777 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: to think about childcare strategically, what you're gonna need. Yeah, 778 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: people fixate on like the bottle warmer and like decorating 779 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: the nursery and honestly all that stuff. I'm not kidding. 780 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: You could literally sit in your hospital bed pick up 781 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: an Amazon Prime and ship at all your house in 782 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: forty eight hours and like have the stuff you need 783 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: delivered prior to I mean, I'm not recommending that necessarily, 784 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: but I think there's some misplaced efforts, And I think 785 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: the biggest thing you can do is figure out your 786 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: childcare situation. Like think about, like you know, finding out 787 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: from your friends if there are good daycares or even 788 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: like you know, finding out if someone has a great 789 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: nanny that's going to be not needed at a certain point, 790 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: Like that is one thing that if you get that 791 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: in place, you're golden. So I think doing that and 792 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: not doing that early is a great way for setting 793 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: yourself up for massive stress when you're trying to go 794 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: back to work. You know, the people like, oh, well, 795 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to think about childcare because I'm not 796 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: sure what I want to do, like put it in place, 797 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: Like that's setting yourself up for not going Like if 798 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 1: you're thinking that, like you're not going back to where, 799 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: Like that's an entirely separate issue. Don't sabotage yourself by 800 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: them being like, oh, couldn't find good childcare, so I 801 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: looked for jas, I went chose daycares for oldest for 802 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: Josper when I was four months pregnant, because that way 803 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: I knew I would get a spot when I wanted it. 804 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: I did it when I had a line on the stick, 805 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: like literally because I knew it was a very like 806 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: I knew this specific the Duke Daycare was like, and 807 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: all the faculty member would steal up all the spots, 808 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: and I was a resident and it was like, I 809 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: get in a spot spot. So yes, yeah, as much research, 810 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: and I had done the research prior to getting pregnant 811 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: so that I knew I could get on the list 812 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: as soon as I saw the line on the stick, 813 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: So now we there you go. Because it was one 814 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: that was a quarter mile from our house and was good, 815 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: and so that was what I wanted like that, because 816 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know it's going to be you're 817 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: going to be dealing with it daily, so you want 818 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: to minimize the difficulties involved in it. Like certainly, if 819 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: you're thinking about this that your kid will be in 820 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: for a few years, I mean, you might want to 821 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: look for places that actually have cafeteria facilities, like so 822 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: they're making the kids like lunch, so you're not having 823 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: to pack that daily for instance, that would be a 824 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 1: good thing to look into. I was going to say, 825 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: if you have friends that have kids that you admire 826 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: and seem happy and well adjusted, hang out with them 827 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: for brunch or something with the kids, because I do 828 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: think that, and you know, be careful of who you're choosing. 829 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 1: You want to choose people that seem to enjoy that 830 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: time a life, because I think a lot of people 831 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: would talk you off. The ledge of how much you 832 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: might be worried about things, and seeing them in action 833 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: and how they're still enjoying their lives and having fun 834 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: and fitting everything together could be really valuable. Like I 835 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: definitely some of Josh's friends were a little older and 836 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: had kids and just I don't know, getting to see like, oh, 837 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: you know, this looks really fun actually kind of takes 838 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of the anxiety away. Took a little 839 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: bit of the anxiety away from it. Yeah, it's interesting 840 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: because I feel like in the past, people spent more 841 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: time around more kids. It seems to me that a 842 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: lot of people have not really spent extended amounts of 843 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: time caring for kids until they have their own. I 844 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: guess I did a lot of babysitting my little brother 845 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: I was old enough when he was born that I 846 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: remember a lot of the babyhood. And then my older 847 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: brother had kids relatively young. He and his wife did so, 848 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 1: and I was in the same town as them when 849 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: their kids were little, so I saw a lot of 850 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: their babyhood as well. And so I think a lot 851 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: of people are not familiar with it, and so it 852 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,879 Speaker 1: becomes this big sort of disorienting thing in a way 853 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: that it wouldn't necessarily if you'd had sort of more 854 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: extended family experience around kids. Yeah, any tips for early pregnancy. 855 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: I will say I did the like non conventional thing 856 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: and told my practice manager super early because I really 857 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: did feel like crap, and I prefer to get the 858 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: sympathy rather than just show look, you know, I mean, 859 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: I think they were going to figure it out anyway. 860 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: So I guess that really depends on your job. You know. 861 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: Some people also have a great pregnancy. Not everybody has nausea. 862 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: You might be really lucky and feel completely fine. Literally, 863 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: some people are asymptomatic, so keeping under wraps might just 864 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: be a matter of some loose or until Yeah, they 865 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: may not have extended nausea. It might be like just 866 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: a few weeks like not. You know, some people it's 867 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: longer into into the first and second trimester and all that. 868 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, and especially if it's your first pregnancy, people, 869 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,279 Speaker 1: I guess it takes a little bit longer to pop 870 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: out as they say done. And I actually found with 871 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: my first pregnancy that I could I was almost up 872 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: to six months before you could look at me and 873 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: for sure be like, yeah, that's happening. So uh, you know, 874 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: you can you could be more discrewed about it if 875 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: you want. Even actually after that, I would wear like 876 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: a blazer and a scarf, and you know, nine months, 877 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: yeah you can tell, but like six months maybe not. 878 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: If you wear black and everything's draping, it's not so obvious. 879 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously by that point many people want 880 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: to be telling people. But if there's certain things like 881 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to. Like I remember, I had some 882 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: meeting at one point while I was pregnant, and I 883 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: was I was trying to get a group to like 884 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: give me some work. I was meeting with them. I 885 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be working with them, and I thought that 886 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: walking in like six months pregnant would not be the 887 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 1: first the best way to start that off, And so 888 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: I just didn't mention it right, and you know, it 889 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: never came up, Like people, if they're polite, are not 890 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: going to ask. So yeah, now I think you can. 891 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: You can strategically drape the it's not something you're you're 892 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: willing to share. Yet. As for traveling, I don't know. 893 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: I guess my big thing was always making sure I 894 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: was in your bathrooms. Yeah. Yeah, travels. I mean I 895 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: think I flew to Veil at like thirty three weeks 896 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: pregnant when my husband broke his leg with Annabelle. So 897 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: travels travels fine while pregnant. You're gonna be miserable wherever 898 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: it is interesting places all good, exactly exactly. Yeah, No, 899 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: we actually went to I flew to South Africa when 900 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Jasper. I flew to Denmark as 901 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: well too. I definitely wear some long trips in there, 902 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 1: I remember that, all right. Love of the Week, Yeah, okay. 903 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: Mine is an app called song Kick because you know 904 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: how like you find out a group you let, a 905 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: band you like is coming to the area it's like 906 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: too late and the tickets are all gone, or you 907 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: hear from a friend that they saw this group that 908 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: you really like and you're like, damn it, I didn't 909 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: even know. Well you can like again non sponsored sorry disclaimer, 910 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: have to say it, but this is an app where 911 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: you can enter your area and like it will look 912 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: at all the music on your phone and you can 913 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: add any groups that you like, and it sort of 914 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: learns your taste and then it'll do a pop up 915 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: notification when somebody announces a tour, which I mean, I 916 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: guess it depends when you live. If you're in New York, 917 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: that might get annoying, like maybe you'd get a pop 918 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,919 Speaker 1: up every day, but in Miami it only happens every 919 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: week or so, and it's been really helpful. Like my father, 920 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: John Misty is coming. I don't know if anybody knows him, 921 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: but I'm super excited and I already got the tickets 922 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: and I don't think I would have known if it 923 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: wasn't for the app. That's cool. So, yeah, you're a 924 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: music fan. That sounds like a great way to plan that. 925 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: I had to make sure that you can get the 926 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: tickets and not have to necessarily, you know, pay a 927 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: lot for resale tickets. Yes, you can get them straight 928 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: off a ticket masters fast. Well. My love of the 929 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: week I'm gonna give a shout out to this one 930 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: school fundraiser my kids did. It's called Original Works, And 931 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: I really am not a big fan of school fundraisers 932 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: in general. This is like the we could do a 933 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: whole episode on how much the bake sale concept is 934 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: that we overpriced wrapping paper or whatever. Like the bake 935 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: sale has just become this like touchstone of like manufactured 936 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: guilt or something. But you know, people sell overpriced wrapping 937 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: paper that you don't really want in the first place anyway, 938 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: or the little tins of popcorn, and then the kids 939 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: want you to buy it so that they can get 940 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: those prizes. Just it's all bad in so many ways, 941 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: but this one it's it's basically the kids do original 942 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: artwork and then the company takes the pictures that they 943 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: draw and puts it on stuff that's basically like conference 944 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: swag items, right, so t shirts or mugs or you 945 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: know all that kind of thing. And so I got 946 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: three jumbo size nice coffee mugs like dishwasher microwave safe, 947 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: one with each of my three elementary school kids artwork 948 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: on it, and so I actually use them, like these 949 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: are good mugs and they have my kids art on it, 950 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: and that's so much better than like the ten of 951 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: cheddar popcorn that I shouldn't be eating anyway. So I 952 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: was a fan of that as an option. Then they 953 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of other stuff that would have 954 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: I think this was like the loan. I love that, 955 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: Like that's something I'd actually want to buy for family members. Again, 956 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: the little wrapping paper type of a thing. That's right. Yeah, No, 957 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean I think it takes it took a little 958 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: bit more effort in the sense of you had to 959 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: have which I assumed that the company had sent their 960 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: consultants and to help with this like that they had 961 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: the art come in certain sizes, and they had the 962 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: carve out time in the class to do it. But 963 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, they do art anyway, so it's not like 964 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: they had to suddenly do art when they wouldn't have otherwise. 965 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: And then, yeah, you know, this stuff is actually useful 966 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: if you choose the right Again, it's like conference swag 967 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: type stuff, so you have to choose the ones you'd 968 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: actually use versus stuff you wouldn't. But the mugs was 969 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: a good option, so we have that. So that's my 970 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 1: love of the week. All right, Well, this has been 971 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: Best of Both Worlds Episode forty seven. We have mostly 972 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: been talking our twenty eighteen goals and then also the 973 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 1: question of things to do before your kid first kid comes. 974 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: I guess we put to New Zealand on the list, 975 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: unless you know you're already going to New Zealand for 976 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: work anyway, and which case you'll be doing that afterwards, 977 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: so don't worry about it. We'll be back next week 978 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: for more on making work in life fit together. Thanks 979 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: for listening. You can find me Sarah at the shoebox 980 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 1: dot com or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and 981 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 982 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: This has been the best of Both Worlds podcasts. Please 983 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: join us next time for more on making work and 984 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: life work together.