Speaker 1: What's up everyone. I'm Devin Simone.
Speaker 2: And I am Davion Rogers and this is MTV's official
Speaker 2: challenge podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh My Coming to you Live.
Speaker 1: This episode was hot. It was also sad and yeah
Speaker 1: it had oh but a lot of competition and elimination,
Speaker 1: which was like interesting of eliminations.
Speaker 2: We have to do this more often. And I can
Speaker 2: say that as somebody does not anticipate going back, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't walk off to continue to see Nights of Eliminations
Speaker 2: because baby, that was an episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a goodness, so good and I love
Speaker 1: the way that they threw it back to the different
Speaker 1: iconic eliminations right how they were like, okay, each of
Speaker 1: these we're talking haul brawl, we're talking balls at Like,
Speaker 1: I that was cool. That was ball done, beautifully done,
Speaker 1: cool to see. What wasn't cool to see was like
Speaker 1: the teams have to eat each other. There are so
Speaker 1: many iconic players. I understand why it has to happen.
Speaker 1: Forty people is a lot, but man, like so many
Speaker 1: good people. We had what Era three went with balls
Speaker 1: in so we had Naya eliminate Amanda, Tony eliminate Leroy
Speaker 1: min I know Erae.
Speaker 2: Amanda and Leroy in one episode that was very early.
Speaker 1: That was hard.
Speaker 3: You do know how, Oh my goodness, that was hard.
Speaker 1: Just when Amanda was sort of playing nice, I mean,
Speaker 1: not with Tory, but can we talk. We did take
Speaker 1: our advice. I'm gonna take two percent credit of that
Speaker 1: because we told her in Vietnam. What did we say, go.
Speaker 2: Make things right with Kara Golden and you know what,
Speaker 2: and when you're coming here, it's okay to show them you.
Speaker 2: It's okay to be vulnerable, it's okay to come in
Speaker 2: here and be the Amanda then you know, well.
Speaker 3: You you're getting to know her.
Speaker 2: But the Manna that I know and the one that
Speaker 2: you thought in her homecoming episode right.
Speaker 1: That aftermath, she's entertaining. She like, she's entertaining, she's fun.
Speaker 1: And really we were like, look, wasn't it you who
Speaker 1: said the enemy of your enemy is your friend? Yeah? Right,
Speaker 1: I told her. I said, look, y'all both got an
Speaker 1: issue with Tory.
Speaker 2: Look, you gotta do what you gotta do to make
Speaker 2: it happen, okay, And I understood And that moment that
Speaker 2: was the only way that I could get through to Amanda.
Speaker 2: I got to speak her language, so you to.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna start there. Okay, let's go ahead.
Speaker 2: Use that and you go ahead and you make this
Speaker 2: thing right with Kara because I really feel like as
Speaker 2: a duo they could have been Powerhouse if they would
Speaker 2: have gotten on the same page. And they did and
Speaker 2: we didn't get to see how it played out. Her
Speaker 2: and Paulie was like, it was, oh, it would have
Speaker 2: been so good.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, it.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, it was a lot.
Speaker 4: It was a lot.
Speaker 1: And then we had Paul wrestle right eir one, Derek eliminating,
Speaker 1: Mark a Nissa eliminating. It's tough because there's just so
Speaker 1: many greats on this season that, I mean, just great
Speaker 1: all around greats, like not sometimes you have people who
Speaker 1: are great competitors, not great in confessionals, right, or great
Speaker 1: in confessionals, not great in politicking. These are people who
Speaker 1: were great at it all, which is why they made
Speaker 1: season forty. So to see them get eliminated so soon
Speaker 1: just hurts.
Speaker 2: It hurts that Derek and Mark was something serious right
Speaker 2: right there? Then flips flipping, Yes, I thought mark neck
Speaker 2: was broken at one point.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't mess with the wrestler, right, that's Sarasota
Speaker 1: wrestling or whatever he's been doing.
Speaker 3: My uses it was.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely insane, and I have to take a
Speaker 2: moment and give my girl Katie the flowers because I
Speaker 2: thought Anissa was about to just run right through with
Speaker 2: this snatch this pole, like taking candy from a baby.
Speaker 3: This is what I thought. But my girl came in
Speaker 3: and Katie made her work.
Speaker 1: She did the legodd almost split. She did's neck like.
Speaker 3: I got to.
Speaker 2: I got to give it to her. I got to
Speaker 2: give it to her. My girl didn't work, and I
Speaker 2: was so so proud of her.
Speaker 1: These all braw girl.
Speaker 2: Oh oh was I don't even know I was.
Speaker 1: I'm not over it. I'm not over it. It's a
Speaker 1: sort of subject. I'm not over it. Paullie. The way
Speaker 1: that THEO did break dance moves on Pollie's face at
Speaker 1: the end of that, at the end of the second
Speaker 1: well he dan't, I mean he I just I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I almost couldn't watch. I had to like turn away
Speaker 1: from the gir Wait, you cried over THEO and Pollie.
Speaker 1: I didn't, you know, Paulie.
Speaker 2: Is like my brother, and so watching him get trample
Speaker 2: like that, and then also knowing how bad Pollie wants
Speaker 2: this thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, and how much.
Speaker 2: He wants to fight for this thing and how much
Speaker 2: he want to get it. But at the same time, Poullie,
Speaker 2: you gotta stop bucking.
Speaker 3: Up to people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, the way you was bucking up to THEO
Speaker 2: and think that he not gonna call you out like that,
Speaker 2: And I hate to see him go out like that.
Speaker 2: And what really hurt me was when he was having
Speaker 2: that moment and the OTF when it was over and
Speaker 2: he was like, it hurts and I ain't even watched
Speaker 2: it yet, so my body and watched this episode.
Speaker 3: That my goodness, like my heart breaks for him.
Speaker 2: But Pouty, if you listen to this, you hold your
Speaker 2: head high because you stayed in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stay in it, yep.
Speaker 3: So PAULI like, I'm proud of you, man, I'm very,
Speaker 3: very proud of you.
Speaker 2: But I hope you and THEO settled it because I
Speaker 2: think you guys are a force stronger together.
Speaker 1: Than whatever yours. Is a long time to hold a grudge, man,
Speaker 1: It's like long, just let it go. Just it's done,
Speaker 1: leave it out there on the sand. The same way
Speaker 1: Olivia and the recent now that's where I want to
Speaker 1: tear up. And that was hard because honestly, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to see either of them go home because I
Speaker 1: think they're just excellent. They're they're entertaining, their fierce women
Speaker 1: and competitors, like to me their anchors on Era four,
Speaker 1: So to have any one of them gone, especially so early,
Speaker 1: just was h man.
Speaker 2: I feel like as the season progressed, I mean, of course,
Speaker 2: next episode, I feel like the void is going to
Speaker 2: be there, especially for Harassio.
Speaker 3: But even if it was Olivia, we would still have
Speaker 3: a there.
Speaker 5: Know what.
Speaker 1: I'm both they are both exceptional women and have really
Speaker 1: made names for themselves in the last few seasons of
Speaker 1: being there, Like both of them have shown that they
Speaker 1: are fighters and and they're entertaining to watch. I do
Speaker 1: hate this is a good job on casting, because you've
Speaker 1: created a season where were you kind of like you're
Speaker 1: struggling people. Yeah, you want all of them to just
Speaker 1: kid now. You know eventually they have to go home,
Speaker 1: but ye, you just want to see so much more
Speaker 1: of them playing out, and that's very much the case here,
Speaker 1: and I love to see Olivia and Nourice sort of
Speaker 1: leave it out on the sands. Right like that. That
Speaker 1: was just really cool to see. And then you have
Speaker 1: take shelter for Air two. And this was kind of
Speaker 1: the equalizer of the four eliminations, right, It's the one
Speaker 1: that could kind of go either way. Who did you
Speaker 1: take it?
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be Car and Brandon, That's
Speaker 2: what I thought. And she was gonna be Kara and Brandon.
Speaker 2: Reason being, I know when Car gets into eliminations, especially
Speaker 2: if it's physical, specifically, if it's physical, she gonna lock in,
Speaker 2: like she's going to lock in, not Kelly An. Ain't
Speaker 2: no you push over either. You know, she's gonna go
Speaker 2: into the Senate. She's gonna do work too. But I
Speaker 2: really thought that Kara had this one branded. The way
Speaker 2: he was talking to his confessionals. I thought, strategically, you know,
Speaker 2: he was over there doing his thing, like really working
Speaker 2: it out, and you know, making sure that Ryan wasn't.
Speaker 1: Gonna come through.
Speaker 3: But Ryan, no, don't don't count me out.
Speaker 1: I felt like that confession was a sign I felt
Speaker 1: Brandon's confessional. I was like, Nah, this feels a little suspect.
Speaker 1: I feel like Brandon's going home.
Speaker 4: I feel like if I feel like there's some justification
Speaker 4: and not.
Speaker 1: That I wanted Brandon to go home. I did. I
Speaker 1: was like, He's like, and then I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 1: to the right, and then I put a log in there'
Speaker 1: make an ex I'm like, ah, nah, you going home?
Speaker 1: In it? Yeah, he's talking a little too much. I
Speaker 1: feel like he ain't gonna make it. Oh. So that
Speaker 1: was tough to see. But people seem to underestimate Ryan.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy that Ryan got to show what he's
Speaker 1: capable of. But I love me some beat, so I
Speaker 1: hated to see Brandon. Although I will say this, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you peeped it. So towards the end
Speaker 1: when Ryan was close to opening up the door right
Speaker 1: like it was kind of jiggling, but he couldn't like
Speaker 1: fit in it. So that means so I would think
Speaker 1: if that were you, or if that were me and
Speaker 1: the you know, competing against him on the other one,
Speaker 1: you naturally start moving a little faster, right because you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, like this is this person my competitor is
Speaker 1: very close. If you go back and rewatch that scene,
Speaker 1: Ray Brand's still standing there like he is waiting at
Speaker 1: the mall food court for them to call his number
Speaker 1: to step up and get his chicken nuggets. There doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to be a sense of urgency at all in
Speaker 1: that moment, and I don't know what's going through his mind.
Speaker 1: I might have to text him to be like hey, brou.
Speaker 2: But he just and then he was so mad when
Speaker 2: he lost. It was so like delicate pinkies in the.
Speaker 1: Air, Like I'm like, sir, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: then he had the audacity to throw his hat. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you had taken a fraction of that energy towards
Speaker 1: like towards you know, we saw Ryan trying to use
Speaker 1: his teeth on that rope, I'm like, well, I hope
Speaker 1: he didn't ship it to Meanwhile.
Speaker 2: Brandon was like, right, like all of the things that
Speaker 2: Brandon put in front of the wall, you know, to
Speaker 2: keep him from getting to the like Ryan was launching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan had it.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. It was it was crazy. Some something
Speaker 3: some clicked. The TJ put something click inside of Ryan
Speaker 3: and you know, you better watch out.
Speaker 1: He wanted to get back in that pull naked like
Speaker 1: he did in the previous episode. He was like, I'm
Speaker 1: ready to party. That's what he was going for. And
Speaker 1: then Kelly Ann I agree with you, because Kelly Ann
Speaker 1: is fierce and in so many ways and also propsically
Speaker 1: and talking about I'm going she went on it right
Speaker 1: before her wedding, which is wild, and maybe it was
Speaker 1: meant to be that she didn't go further, so at
Speaker 1: least she didn't hurt herself, because I just can't imagine
Speaker 1: anything works than coming back with the challenge battle Wounds
Speaker 1: and then getting married right after that. So props to
Speaker 1: her though for going. It was tough to watch but
Speaker 1: so entertaining all at the same freaking time. Yeah, so good. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now you know, we're going to do our rankings right, gold, Silver,
Speaker 1: Bronze participation, and then we're going to do gold Star
Speaker 1: and Timeout. So I'm not going to comment on TJ's
Speaker 1: wardrobe this time because it was a little bit disappointing.
Speaker 1: So four, but I love you.
Speaker 2: Teach it.
Speaker 1: Who day gets your gold in I have golds across
Speaker 1: the board. I have ls across the board, okay.
Speaker 2: And and this is strictly none about the you know,
Speaker 2: twenty four hours earlier and all of the drama that
Speaker 2: was and this is strictly about the night of eliminations
Speaker 2: because I feel like every single Era went in and
Speaker 2: did their work right, every single last one of them
Speaker 2: went in and did their work, and I was extremely,
Speaker 2: extremely proud of them, and just you know, the other
Speaker 2: eras well, the rest of the members of their era
Speaker 2: who was up there watching.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody had their person that was rooting for,
Speaker 3: they were helping.
Speaker 2: It was a lot of team stuff going on, and
Speaker 2: I was just like this right here, I can't break
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: I have to give golds across the board to every
Speaker 3: single ERA. This episode ain't gonna last.
Speaker 2: This episode golds across the board. Yeah, how about you?
Speaker 3: How did you break it up? Because I just know
Speaker 3: that I know that, I know.
Speaker 1: I agree, it's really tough to break it up. I
Speaker 1: will say that in terms of just strategy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go ahead and give ERA won the gold. Okay, this time,
Speaker 1: I think it was well played. I think it was
Speaker 1: well handled. I think Rachel was smart to do it
Speaker 1: the way that she did. I think the outcome was
Speaker 1: best case scenario. Not saying like again, I hate c
Speaker 1: kt go because she's freaking entertaining, but like I think overall,
Speaker 1: when I look at how their team is still at
Speaker 1: the end of it, I'm like, all right, they didn't
Speaker 1: do too much damage to their own team, right, because
Speaker 1: it's tough when you've got to cannibalize your own team.
Speaker 1: So like, all right, fair, then I'd have to give
Speaker 1: the silver to Era four because that was tough because
Speaker 1: they did essentially cannibalize their own team. But I'd say
Speaker 1: that's one of the teams where really there is no win,
Speaker 1: like particularly with the women, right, like there is no
Speaker 1: win in who you get, who you elimit, like they
Speaker 1: are all exceptional and it was Casey. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. There really isn't there
Speaker 1: There isn't There was nothing they could have really done differently.
Speaker 1: They're because they're all exceptionally talented with like they to me,
Speaker 1: i'd say consistently, yeah across the board, there isn't a
Speaker 1: disparity there, So I'd give them the silver.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now this is when we get into the we go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that I'm going to give the bronze
Speaker 1: to Era three because while I understand why Tory would
Speaker 1: want to get rid of AMANDAM, they don't know how
Speaker 1: this game may mix up down the line, and so
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if that was the smartest even
Speaker 1: though Amanda does have it out for Tory, like I
Speaker 1: get it. But Corey, on the other hand, that just
Speaker 1: didn't seem smart, like usually the same way we saw
Speaker 1: with Era one, right, where it's kind of like, look,
Speaker 1: the dudes usually want to get rid of what they
Speaker 1: deem to be the weaker females, right, and the women
Speaker 1: want to get rid of the weaker males in case
Speaker 1: there's ever a guygirl pairing whatever, like get it. I
Speaker 1: would not have so quickly tried to get rid of Amanda.
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You didn't even give her a chance to see, Like,
Speaker 2: you didn't get a chance to see if she was
Speaker 2: really Ryan, would you like that?
Speaker 1: Or Well, when I'm looking at that list, I don't
Speaker 1: know that Amanda's where I would have gone. I just don't,
Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think it was the smartest move.
Speaker 1: And I think they were letting emotions get ahead of
Speaker 1: real strategy, because yes, you're going against your own team
Speaker 1: right now, but you teach is diabolical. We've been over this.
Speaker 1: You don't know how that's going to switch up. So
Speaker 1: I think in the beginning you kind of want to
Speaker 1: keep your team strong in case or for when you
Speaker 1: start going against these other teams. And then the participation
Speaker 1: for similar reasons goes to Ara. Two. I get that
Speaker 1: they don't like Kara. I get it, but Kara is Kara.
Speaker 1: Although to be fair, when I look at that list,
Speaker 1: it is tough of who they also have very jacked women,
Speaker 1: so there's really there. It was kind of out of
Speaker 1: their hands a little bit. But I don't love the
Speaker 1: way they targeted Kara in that particular instance. I really don't.
Speaker 1: It did seem they're not beating the allegations of always
Speaker 1: like I don't love when Kara does the woe is
Speaker 1: Me thing, but in this scenario, they're not beating the
Speaker 1: allegations of consistently going after Kara, going after her and
Speaker 1: she called it out. Oh yeah, it makes you.
Speaker 3: Think, like putting her in there is one thing.
Speaker 2: Putting her in there is almost like saying, hi, we
Speaker 2: can still do it righting her in there. But then
Speaker 2: it also makes you think who was the target, because
Speaker 2: did you know, Shaye? I love Kelly An, I promise
Speaker 2: I do, and I think she's a powerhouse. But did
Speaker 2: you did you did you think that if it was
Speaker 2: a real physical that Kellyn was gonna take her out.
Speaker 1: That actually is a really good you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So are they just picking I'm not gonna say picking
Speaker 2: on her, but picking at her just to show her like,
Speaker 2: we can still put you in because it was.
Speaker 3: Against Kelly Yann.
Speaker 1: That's actually a really good point. That's a real you're right.
Speaker 1: And I conversations around that behind the scenes, because I
Speaker 1: feel like, if anything, I could see conversation being like, hey, yes,
Speaker 1: we're picking you. No, it's not ideal, but we want
Speaker 1: to get Kelly in out. Not saying that they did,
Speaker 1: but you know whatever, they were like yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: did they think there's too many cooks in the kitchen?
Speaker 1: The same way, Rachel said that all of Era one
Speaker 1: was rooting for Kara because and they started laughing when
Speaker 1: Kara won because they want car to come back in
Speaker 1: because they know Er two might implode.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was all a lot of mess. Now let's get
Speaker 1: into our gold Star of the week and our time
Speaker 1: out of the week. I think mine might surprise you,
Speaker 1: but I want to know yours first, all right, So
Speaker 1: my gold star, of course I broke it up. You
Speaker 1: know what this is not Hunger Games.
Speaker 2: Okay, I break it up because all of these people,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm a sucker for the Little Engine
Speaker 2: that Could, the Chicken Littles, if you will, I'm a
Speaker 2: sucker for them. And I'm gonna give my pieces of
Speaker 2: my gold star to Amanda, Pauli, Thereice, and Katie. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna split it up and give it to them because
Speaker 2: I just felt like they went in there with situations
Speaker 2: where it's like, I don't think anybody expected them to
Speaker 2: win and come back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And so they went in there and they gave it.
Speaker 3: They all like literally was like the odds.
Speaker 2: Are completely stacked up against me and I might get
Speaker 2: beat up, but you're not gonna walk out clean.
Speaker 3: And that is what I like to see. You might
Speaker 3: beat me up, but you won't have a black eye too,
Speaker 3: right Like that, Right, That's what I like to see.
Speaker 2: And so I'm going to go ahead and divide my
Speaker 2: goal star among them. My time out, I had to
Speaker 2: give my time out to Corey.
Speaker 3: And here's where I need to maybe have.
Speaker 2: A conversation, you know, maybe he can come on the
Speaker 2: podcast and we can figure out what the motive was,
Speaker 2: because I don't like the conversation that happened.
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna do this for Nelson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't like that because that made me feel
Speaker 2: like if we had that, if you guys had that conversation,
Speaker 2: and you you know how close Amanda is to Nelson,
Speaker 2: and I know how close you are to Nelson as well,
Speaker 2: but I feel like if that was a conversation where
Speaker 2: you were maybe pulling at her heartstrings to pull her
Speaker 2: in as a number for you, and then when you
Speaker 2: realize that there were a lot of people inside the
Speaker 2: house that really wasn't messing with Amanda like that, then
Speaker 2: you threw her to the wolves.
Speaker 3: Why have that conversation?
Speaker 2: Where the right and the way she was just sitting
Speaker 2: there that do you know when they were having a conversation,
Speaker 2: she was like, we sat here and we talked and
Speaker 2: we agreed that we were gonna work together and we're
Speaker 2: gonna do this for Nelson.
Speaker 1: He tried to make it seem.
Speaker 3: Like he didn't know what she was talking about, if
Speaker 3: she was having a conversation with the wall.
Speaker 2: And then he's like, that's all we have, though all
Speaker 2: we have is Nielson, Like we don't have anything else,
Speaker 2: And I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, what was then?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was disappointed for that too.
Speaker 3: Right now you have time out because I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was definitely disappointed in Corey for that too.
Speaker 1: I will say my nominees for gold Star, there are
Speaker 1: a couple of nominees, but I'm giving nominees day and
Speaker 1: then actually awarding. Here we go the gold medal. So
Speaker 1: my nominees are marking that flip. I thought that was
Speaker 1: very impressive, very Derek winning. Also very impressive. Katie putting
Speaker 1: up one hell of a fight, Yes, also very impressive.
Speaker 1: And the hug between Olivia and Nourice so good. Touch
Speaker 1: my heart, like just seeing that. I know things will
Speaker 1: probably never be the same, but I do hope that
Speaker 1: it really is squashed and that they can come back
Speaker 1: and be powerhouses as a team, you know, like if
Speaker 1: she joins the right squad. But then they got to
Speaker 1: get through Michelle, but you know, whatever, we'll get it.
Speaker 1: All of them are nominations, but no one gets the
Speaker 1: gold Star. Like that m F and Karma vote that
Speaker 1: gets the gold.
Speaker 3: Star for me because I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the theme. I love this so much. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited. I have said for years, people have side
Speaker 1: eyed me. When I was like, you don't have to
Speaker 1: be an ass to win this game. Not get it.
Speaker 1: I've never won the game. I understand that, but that's
Speaker 1: mainly because I'm allergic to the gym. But I have
Speaker 1: always said, you don't have to be you really don't,
Speaker 1: and I do believe that. And we've seen some people
Speaker 1: win without being an ass, right, And so I love
Speaker 1: that that seems to be a theme now of like
Speaker 1: you need to be true, like oh, and it just
Speaker 1: it allows these great players when they do get eliminated.
Speaker 1: It was nice to see that they still have some
Speaker 1: impact because they impacted the show, They've impacted our lives.
Speaker 1: Like I love that. So the people who thought of
Speaker 1: that production all y'all, TJ. That is my gold star.
Speaker 1: I am so thrilled and so excited to see that
Speaker 1: play out. And then the one that gets my time
Speaker 1: out is whoever decided on that comic sands ass spawn
Speaker 1: on the helmets. It was so distracting. I couldn't stop
Speaker 1: staring at it. All eliminations, it was bothering me so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I appreciate that they're trying to bring shouts.
Speaker 3: We're gonna add a little razzle dazzle.
Speaker 1: So that's my time. But I did like everything else
Speaker 1: by this episode. And you guys are going to really
Speaker 1: like this guest that we have on right day.
Speaker 2: Yes, we got the one, the one, our girl, Nourie,
Speaker 2: and we love.
Speaker 3: When she come and talk to us on the podcast.
Speaker 2: The girl come in and she don't bite that tongue
Speaker 2: and she gives us the team.
Speaker 1: So it' stick around. You not gonna want to miss it.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the show. All right.
Speaker 1: That was one hell of an episode. This is going
Speaker 1: to be one heck of an episode because we have on.
Speaker 1: I don't care what we just watched because in my heart,
Speaker 1: she is still the people's champ. Last season, she is
Speaker 1: still very much that girl. We got to hang with
Speaker 1: her a little bit and chat with her in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: and now we get to hang with her and chat
Speaker 1: with her a little bit on the podcast. Please give
Speaker 1: it up for one half of Nourassio.
Speaker 4: I love you guys.
Speaker 5: You guys are First off, you guys are always so
Speaker 5: nice to me and I appreciate you so much. Like
Speaker 5: I said, when they told me, do you want to
Speaker 5: go on the podcast? I was like, Oh is it?
Speaker 4: Devin and Devon and they're like, yep, okay, call me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We love to hear that. We love to hear that,
Speaker 1: and we love I feel like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: feel like you're a sister. Day tell me if you
Speaker 1: feel the same way. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just that's my cousin. We've already locked in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're a sister, which means if
Speaker 1: you ever do some dumb stuff, you know, like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna keep you honest on it, right, We're
Speaker 1: gonna call you out on it, but it's always with love,
Speaker 1: and we always support and ride for you and so
Speaker 1: love to see you. When I literally was screaming at
Speaker 1: the commuter, oh my gosh, oh my, this was this
Speaker 1: was hard for us to watch.
Speaker 3: I can only how did it feel for you watching
Speaker 3: the episode?
Speaker 5: I I literally at first, I was watching the episode
Speaker 5: and we are at like the pull wrestle, and so
Speaker 5: I'm like, I know that it's about to turn into
Speaker 5: the hall brawl. And I literally turned the while I
Speaker 5: was watching with Rossio, and I literally turned to him
Speaker 5: and I said, thinking about to cry, and he's like,
Speaker 5: I just stay's quiet, and I turned my head away
Speaker 5: and I'm like bowling. I'm like, ah, it was a
Speaker 5: very interesting episode for sure. I will say though, I
Speaker 5: am glad to see that I did a halbrow and
Speaker 5: I did not get rocked the way that Paulie did it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean he really did.
Speaker 4: I was like something was happy that you at least
Speaker 4: held your own a little bit.
Speaker 3: You did, and I have to eat my words.
Speaker 2: So in the last podcast, we were talking about the
Speaker 2: hypothetically if you and Olivia word to going to a
Speaker 2: hall bor. Devin and I were speaking about it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think that Noursee could go
Speaker 2: toe to toe with Olivia in a hallbrow. You didn't win,
Speaker 2: but you definitely went toe to toe, okay, Like you
Speaker 2: was right there with her, and I was so poud watching.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's my cousin.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean my cousin.
Speaker 1: You really had a moment too, Like I was yelling
Speaker 1: to just run because when in the second round, when
Speaker 1: she had a hat onto your foot and you managed
Speaker 1: to move her back towards your side like where you
Speaker 1: needed to go, and I was like, run the reach,
Speaker 1: just run because at that point it came to shoe right.
Speaker 1: So if you could just get out of my anables
Speaker 1: on lock.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, you guys, let me know.
Speaker 5: No. But I mean, I just remember like being in
Speaker 5: that moment and like there's always that little voice in
Speaker 5: my head that's like it usually is more bad than good,
Speaker 5: and everything told me.
Speaker 4: Like kick her, kick her in the face.
Speaker 5: But I couldn't do it, Like there was just like
Speaker 5: I wish now looking back, I do wish. I guess
Speaker 5: I played dirty because I know how much I did
Speaker 5: want it. Yeah, So I think that's the only thing
Speaker 5: I kind of regret that, like not going a little
Speaker 5: harder because I knew that I was capable of it,
Speaker 5: but I just something told me like, don't do it
Speaker 5: and it won't look. I don't know what it was,
Speaker 5: but I'm either way, I'm pretty proud.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about a moment of growth though, because
Speaker 1: when we first were introduced to you and Reice and
Speaker 1: I know, I actually rode you pretty hard because I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I want to like her so much.
Speaker 1: She's so beautiful, she's so funny, but man, she can
Speaker 1: be mean. In earlier seasons, like man, and you would
Speaker 1: pop off on Twitter girl like just I mean, some
Speaker 1: of it was kind of funny. But to see that
Speaker 1: and where you are now though, and I know you
Speaker 1: wish you played dirty and obviously we want, like I
Speaker 1: wish you're still in the game. But I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: Like I just I really am proud of you and
Speaker 1: seeing you hug Olivia at the thing, especially after all
Speaker 1: you've gone through and last season, Like, to me, that's
Speaker 1: why you're the people champ. And I just I am
Speaker 1: really really incredibly proud of you.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: And it's actually, you know, it's funny because after we hugged,
Speaker 5: I was kind of like walking away and she's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I love you, and I was like kind of like
Speaker 5: taken aback, and so I just like didn't I like
Speaker 5: didn't say anything because I was kind of like frozen.
Speaker 5: And then I came around. I turned back and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, like love you too. But it was
Speaker 5: just like I said, it was a nice moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So where do you guys stand now after that
Speaker 1: and watching that, Like, are we at least on neutral
Speaker 1: ground or did things heat back up? No?
Speaker 5: I think we we we actually when we first got
Speaker 5: into the house, when we realized that we were going
Speaker 5: to be a team, we knew that we had to
Speaker 5: have a actual, like a new conversation, try to find,
Speaker 5: you know, some understanding between everything, and like she was
Speaker 5: very apologetic and I was forgiveful. I was like, you
Speaker 5: know what, I will forgive you. I won't forget obviously,
Speaker 5: right I will. I will forgive you though, not only
Speaker 5: for my own mental but also for the sake of
Speaker 5: the game and the stake of the team, because I knew,
Speaker 5: like I went into forty, I was like, I want
Speaker 5: this badly, and I was gonna do whatever I needed
Speaker 5: to do to make sure that I could go.
Speaker 4: As far as possible.
Speaker 5: And if that meant making amends, like that's exactly what
Speaker 5: I was gonna do, like I needed it for myself
Speaker 5: or Rodaskia on my team. Like I was like, we
Speaker 5: are here to represent. We are not here to cause
Speaker 5: drama within our team. Like we're here to.
Speaker 4: Cause drama within us and everybody else.
Speaker 2: Right, I have to ask because before you even go
Speaker 2: into elimination, right, you guys are doing the OTF and
Speaker 2: Olivia is like, you know, like she's about to go
Speaker 2: into the boxing ring, right if she's hype, she's ready
Speaker 2: to go, And baby, you are sobbing like you are
Speaker 2: like completely torn over with emotions and what was that about?
Speaker 3: Why were you so consumed what was going on?
Speaker 5: Well, first off, I will I'm Dasia was going through
Speaker 5: like his own like tough mental battle so for him,
Speaker 5: because I was like, dang, like if I am, I'm
Speaker 5: going into a hall, bro. I mean, if you already
Speaker 5: ask almost anybody there, you would have everyone who said
Speaker 5: Nuris is going home. So I kind of was already
Speaker 5: in that mindset of like, yeah, most likely you can
Speaker 5: put up a fight, but most likely you're going home.
Speaker 4: And I was more feeling.
Speaker 5: So like sad that I was like, dang, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: have to leave him here like playing this game that
Speaker 5: he doesn't play very well by himself. I am literally
Speaker 5: his piece in this moment and he doesn't, you know.
Speaker 5: So I was just feeling really sad to like leave him.
Speaker 5: And then also we had only spent about two weeks
Speaker 5: in the real world before going to forty together because
Speaker 5: he was gone filming except on.
Speaker 4: For four and a half months.
Speaker 5: Two weeks together in the real world from being apart
Speaker 5: for four and a half months with no contact, no
Speaker 5: communication to then going in there, and I know, like
Speaker 5: I see tours like oh, you know, like they are
Speaker 5: like the typical challenge couple, Like they're just thinking to
Speaker 5: themselves and I'm like, yeah, but it's very different circumstances.
Speaker 5: Like I think if we wouldn't have been apart for
Speaker 5: four and a half months, we would have spent time
Speaker 5: with other people and doing other things, but we were
Speaker 5: still playing catch up on that time.
Speaker 4: That we had lost.
Speaker 5: Like, so we took every second of that of being
Speaker 5: on forty two be together because there was just can
Speaker 5: you imagine four and a half months of stories that
Speaker 5: I haven't told you about things that have gone on
Speaker 5: into my life, and just right to.
Speaker 1: That point to Nurice, because when we saw you in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: the feedback we had gotten from some people in the
Speaker 1: house was Nurice and Arassio are keeping to themselves, and
Speaker 1: it did seem like some stuff was going on. So
Speaker 1: was it just was it because you guys hadn't seen
Speaker 1: each other. Was it because Hirasio wasn't fully himself because
Speaker 1: he was going through things and you were just trying
Speaker 1: to protect and support him, or do you think it
Speaker 1: was an unfair mischaracterization of the other challengers kind of
Speaker 1: looking in and already writing you in Hirasio if feeling
Speaker 1: like you guys were segregating yourselves.
Speaker 4: Literally it was all three.
Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine he went to film thirty
Speaker 5: nine for like months, he had about a month breakout
Speaker 5: in the real world, then four and a half months
Speaker 5: on a different show. Yeah, to then come back out,
Speaker 5: have a couple weeks out, then go back for sure.
Speaker 5: So I was obviously trying to be there for him,
Speaker 5: and then obviously we're playing catch up, trying to hang out.
Speaker 5: And then I will say then it was the other people,
Speaker 5: Like they actually were giving me shit in the whole.
Speaker 5: So like whenever I would get away from being with
Speaker 5: Rasu and go be social, that was like the one
Speaker 5: thing that everyone kept saying, like, oh my god, you
Speaker 5: guys need to talk more, you guys need to do this,
Speaker 5: you guys need to talk game with us, you need
Speaker 5: to come to it.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I literally straight have told everybody
Speaker 4: that told me.
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't care to Like, if you guys,
Speaker 5: if the game has already started for you guys, cool,
Speaker 5: like go ahead and let that be that, but like
Speaker 5: I'm gonna feel it out when we get into the house.
Speaker 4: And it was crazy because it was.
Speaker 5: A lot of like era what like Era one people
Speaker 5: that were saying those things, and I was just like,
Speaker 5: what do you expect me to sit here and kiss?
Speaker 5: You're asked like everybody else's because like, absolutely not, that's
Speaker 5: not who I am.
Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna know you guys.
Speaker 5: And if you don't want to get to know me
Speaker 5: because I'm like, god forbid, I'm hanging out with my boyfriend,
Speaker 5: then that's fine too, like it says a lot about
Speaker 5: you too. But there, like I said, and there's also
Speaker 5: other people who were like kind of us.
Speaker 4: Jody, she was so lovely.
Speaker 5: She was someone that was like, okay, like you want
Speaker 5: to ask your hanging out to Okay, I'm gonna come
Speaker 5: hang out with you guys and get another both of
Speaker 5: you guys like mm.
Speaker 1: Oh, So that was an option. So it wasn't like
Speaker 1: you guys were just keeping everyone away. It's that they
Speaker 1: could come and, you know, I don't know, have lunch
Speaker 1: or whatever, like hang out with the two of you.
Speaker 1: It's not like you guys were don't sit with.
Speaker 3: Us, right.
Speaker 5: There were so many people who so many people like
Speaker 5: when we got into the house that they just didn't care,
Speaker 5: Like we had great conversations with people like Tony and
Speaker 5: like a lot of different people that did come up
Speaker 5: set people who didn't care that me and him were together.
Speaker 5: They just came up and talked and like, those are
Speaker 5: the people that we got to know.
Speaker 4: And we also went up to people. I also tried.
Speaker 5: Playing my own game too, but I think because I
Speaker 5: wasn't like staying up until four o'clock in the morning drinking, right,
Speaker 5: But I'm like, I don't, I didn't care to.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess, like I said, I think with me and
Speaker 5: him trying to play catch up with our time, I
Speaker 5: was like, if I could go be laid up with
Speaker 5: my man, like I'm gonna do so, Like.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's valid. That's totally valid.
Speaker 2: So you had like a double target on you potentially,
Speaker 2: let me see if you feel this way, right, first target, you.
Speaker 3: Got your man, your man, your man, your man. People
Speaker 3: feel like you're isolated this that and the.
Speaker 2: Third also last season you walked away as the people's champ, right,
Speaker 2: and so coming into this season, do you feel like
Speaker 2: that put another target on your back? Do you feel
Speaker 2: like you had pressure coming into this season from thirty nine.
Speaker 5: I would say a little bit of yes and a
Speaker 5: little I think. Okay, so people actually feel like a
Speaker 5: lot of people that were on forty, like, the main
Speaker 5: thing that they kept saying was that they didn't watch
Speaker 5: thirty nine. Oh interesting, it only heard or saw what
Speaker 5: the challenge posted. Okay, and obviously they knew that I
Speaker 5: did well, but they didn't watch enough.
Speaker 1: I guess they'd know the story like, yeah, how well
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 5: So actually, Olivia is a very like social person and
Speaker 5: she's also like someone who will like politic and politic hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it's funny because a lot of people came up
Speaker 5: to me being like, oh, Olivia's been telling Like Olivia
Speaker 5: went up to everybody to tell her everything that happened.
Speaker 5: But for her it was like she tried making herself
Speaker 5: seem like she was so good and so innocent and.
Speaker 4: That I basically overreacted and like different things like that.
Speaker 5: So because I also supposedly wasn't talking to so many people,
Speaker 5: they only were talking to Olivia, and so they also.
Speaker 4: Were hearing like I feel like the wrong information.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So not only do they, I mean from the little
Speaker 5: bit that they saw it probably did consider me a threat,
Speaker 5: sees that I'm like ice quote unquote isolating myself and
Speaker 5: then they're also hearing oh, like, well the drama wasn't
Speaker 5: that big of a deal, Like it wasn't like I
Speaker 5: don't know, I think a lot of people are validating Olivia, So.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like it was.
Speaker 5: It was a very interesting season, and like I said,
Speaker 5: I just felt like there was a lot of people
Speaker 5: there that I was just like, I don't I really
Speaker 5: don't care to get to know you, guys. And so
Speaker 5: it was forty personalities and forty big personalities that Social
Speaker 5: Batron ran out pretty quickly being in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who do you who? Okay, So if you could
Speaker 1: have gone against so in the elimination, if you could
Speaker 1: have gone against a girl from another era, who would
Speaker 1: you pick?
Speaker 5: Ooh okay, I would see, I would I wouldn't want
Speaker 5: to go up against let me see, let me see,
Speaker 5: let me see maybe somebody like Tory, not because I
Speaker 5: don't like her, but because I do think that she's
Speaker 5: such a good competitor, and I mean it would be
Speaker 5: it would be interesting to just go go up against her,
Speaker 5: and if I could get the w like that would be.
Speaker 1: Dope, wow interesting. Okay, But I.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't want to go against someone that I just I
Speaker 5: know for a fact that I'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: NURSI you're gonna go into it kind of cocky thinking
Speaker 5: that you're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Do you like the challenge? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I also want to go against someone that's good,
Speaker 5: like someone that like, yeah, then you really can get
Speaker 5: that satisfaction of being like I did that against that
Speaker 5: and she does very well eliminations and overall in the challenge,
Speaker 5: So I'm like, why not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have to know though, we saw you
Speaker 2: guys grabbing these little how did.
Speaker 3: That work with the picking of the eliminations? How did
Speaker 3: that work?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So we all came down, they told us what all
Speaker 5: the eliminations were and which era was attached to what,
Speaker 5: and so we thought we were going to be doing
Speaker 5: taking shelter right, Oh, perfect, And then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden there was like this board on the other side
Speaker 5: and they just made us go by era. So it
Speaker 5: went from Era one down to air and we had
Speaker 5: to go up there and you randomly picked. You just
Speaker 5: randomly have to flip the tile over, and so one went.
Speaker 5: Obviously they got pull wrestled, and ERA two went and
Speaker 5: they got to take shelter. Then it was obviously up
Speaker 5: to We're like, Okay, it's either gonna be balls in
Speaker 5: or it's gonna be you know.
Speaker 4: We actually looked at each other and we're like, let's
Speaker 4: hope it is balls in, Like, let's hope it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and uh, THEO and Paulie are sitting here
Speaker 5: and they're like, no, we want harbor, we want and
Speaker 5: we're literally, you know, we're talking to them. We're like,
Speaker 5: shut up, Like why are you guys saying you guys
Speaker 5: want a hallbraw? Like why are you manifesting this? Yeah,
Speaker 5: a sudden they go up, Era three goes up and
Speaker 5: when they flip it over and there's his balls, and
Speaker 5: we're like, fuck out of all things.
Speaker 4: We have a hall brawl.
Speaker 2: There was reaction from the audience, with your cast members
Speaker 2: questioning whether you and Olivia made an agreement to not
Speaker 2: get you know, hurt each to get in the hall.
Speaker 2: Did you guys say, you know, let's go gentle on
Speaker 2: each other. Was that a conversation?
Speaker 5: So we actually did have a conversation, but we actually
Speaker 5: decided to knock go.
Speaker 4: Easy on each other.
Speaker 5: We talked behind the scenes because she was she came
Speaker 5: up to me and she was like wait, Mari's how
Speaker 5: much do you weave?
Speaker 4: Right now? I was like one ten.
Speaker 5: I kind of went into the season a bit small,
Speaker 5: so I was like, I'm one time. She's like, fuck,
Speaker 5: I'm want sixty five. She's like, I'm fifty five pounds everything.
Speaker 5: So she's like, should I give it fifty percent? Is
Speaker 5: what she asked me, And I was like, to be honest,
Speaker 5: I was like, I think we should like just go
Speaker 5: for it, and she's like, you know what. Yeah, Like
Speaker 5: she was like, I'm gonna go for it because I'll
Speaker 5: be mad at myself if for some reason I lose
Speaker 5: and I didn't give it my all, and I was
Speaker 5: like same. So we went into it being like we're
Speaker 5: gonna give it are all regardless. So yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: it made it.
Speaker 1: Didn't look Yeah, then how did you guys manage to uh?
Speaker 1: Cause that first time was real cute?
Speaker 5: Yeah, was crazy in the moment, Like watching it back now,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shit, it actually wasn't that bad. But
Speaker 5: in the moment I got her helmet to the face,
Speaker 5: or at least I thought it was a helmet to
Speaker 5: the face when we first so.
Speaker 4: I just remember like instantly getting hit in the face.
Speaker 4: Everything felt like slow mo, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, my face.
Speaker 3: And then I was like, wait, you're in a hall
Speaker 3: broke go.
Speaker 5: I think it's funny because when I watch it back,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, it really wasn't bad, like I understand.
Speaker 5: And then also then Bananas was yelling after we did
Speaker 5: the first round.
Speaker 4: Banana yell that Olivia, and he was like, Olivia, what
Speaker 4: was that?
Speaker 5: Like you were going too easy on her? And that
Speaker 5: actually fueled me because that pissed me. I was like,
Speaker 5: are you even in interfering? And like I was just confused,
Speaker 5: Like I was like, I was like, what what else
Speaker 5: do you want? He and like I kept hearing people
Speaker 5: telling her like basically to hurt me more.
Speaker 3: And so that that fed me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of made me go a little harder the
Speaker 5: second time around because I was like, Okay, now I
Speaker 5: already got hit in the face, and I think that's
Speaker 5: about the worst thing that can happen in the hall brawl.
Speaker 5: So I was like, Okay, now I can go a
Speaker 5: little harder, like Okay, that's it's it's not as scary
Speaker 5: as you think. And then also I'm like, oh, hearing
Speaker 5: everybody else talks shit, I'm like okay, fine, Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like a rollercoaster ride after that first drop. We
Speaker 2: all you gotta get over that first drop, and it's
Speaker 2: just funny.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I'm like, I rewatched the I rethink
Speaker 5: about the second round, and I'm like, dang, there's many
Speaker 5: things you could have done differently. At least it could
Speaker 5: have been you could have got a point. At least
Speaker 5: and he's like, okay, fine, you lost, but at least
Speaker 5: get the point.
Speaker 2: No should have would have could have cousin because they'll
Speaker 2: haunt you in your sleep.
Speaker 1: All Right, you gotta take a quick break, but we'll
Speaker 1: be right back after this.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get back to the show.
Speaker 1: Let's rewind a little bit and talk about that challenge house,
Speaker 1: because that looks like one messy ass house. The fact
Speaker 1: that it not only looks like it's from the eleventh century,
Speaker 1: but the fact that, like people are up on balconies
Speaker 1: yelling and fighting down. The fact that Derek doesn't have
Speaker 1: a shirt on during dinner. I don't know why everybody
Speaker 1: else in clothes. I didn't understand why Derek didn't have
Speaker 1: a shirt on. But how did that affect things when
Speaker 1: you guys first got in there.
Speaker 5: I feel well, first off lack of sleep or struggling
Speaker 5: to sleep because everything, like the sound just echoed, so
Speaker 5: trying to go to sleep in there was miserable.
Speaker 4: It was honestly like it was a lot. But also
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 5: Say, like I've watched like the season where they were
Speaker 5: in the bunker, and this is a lot better than that.
Speaker 5: So I guess I can't complain too much because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: they've had worse, and I'm you know, I'm grateful that
Speaker 5: I'm not experiencing that.
Speaker 4: Bad of a place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it really, I mean, I think the most
Speaker 5: the thing that affected us the most was, yeah, lack
Speaker 5: of sleep and also lack of trying to find somewhere
Speaker 5: where you could have private conversations.
Speaker 1: What's a conversation do you're trying to have nourice or
Speaker 1: other things?
Speaker 3: I mean, she said none of that.
Speaker 1: In the house, we heard y'all talking about eight kids.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you negotiated it down to five, but I mean.
Speaker 3: It still feels like a lot.
Speaker 5: And then you know, it's so funny because when I
Speaker 5: just when I watched that scene just now of me
Speaker 5: and him, thought, I was like, I never even knew
Speaker 5: there was a camera on us when we were having
Speaker 5: that they gonna get the good stuff in private, Like
Speaker 5: that's me and OASTI all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm like, so, like, why are you gonna put a
Speaker 4: ring on it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Does he know your ring size? Nurice? Do we need
Speaker 1: to put it out here on the podcast? Now?
Speaker 5: Do we need to name this episode your ring size?
Speaker 5: He knows the ring size. I think I'm a four
Speaker 5: and a half tiny fingers. He knows the ring size
Speaker 5: I've already designed.
Speaker 1: Uh so he has it all.
Speaker 5: He knows everything about it. It's just a matter of
Speaker 5: whatever he gets it.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 1: Oh I love this. Oh this is so cute. Remember
Speaker 1: Day and I flower girls, ushers, ring bears, whatever orchestrated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well yeah, whatever it is, it's security. You know, whatever
Speaker 1: we got. You just give us a little time. Okay.
Speaker 1: So I know people are gonna want to know this.
Speaker 1: When you were in the house, was there anyone from
Speaker 1: any of the other eras that you were kind of
Speaker 1: like inspired or just like in awe to see or
Speaker 1: be like, whoa, I'm competing with this person. I've heard
Speaker 1: about them or I know about them, or I really
Speaker 1: you know, admire and respect them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would say, I mean, if I
Speaker 5: have to go down the line, I'll start, Okay, well,
Speaker 5: era three, I will say from Era three, I was
Speaker 5: really I mean not even just like as a competitor,
Speaker 5: but I really like Amanda because I like the way
Speaker 5: that she speaks her mind and she's not scared of anybody,
Speaker 5: and I like that she tells it as it is,
Speaker 5: she does not sugarcoat anything. And also she is like
Speaker 5: she's just she's funny to watch because she's on there
Speaker 5: like she was. They're giving it to Michelle, giving it
Speaker 5: to Josh and when I tell you and everybody else
Speaker 5: that was on the cow people were just sitting there
Speaker 5: eating our popborn like dying laughing.
Speaker 4: And I love that.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I like, I like when there's drama and
Speaker 5: it's not involving me and I can just say and
Speaker 5: she's so funny, And I was like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 5: like her. Going into it, I didn't think I was
Speaker 5: gonna like her. So when I got there and instantly
Speaker 5: my mind changed, I was like, oh yeah, no, like
Speaker 5: this is. I'm happy she's here now. Now I understand
Speaker 5: why her and Nelson are so close.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is.
Speaker 5: I was like we were always supposed to get along.
Speaker 5: I will say it was who else. Definitely. I was
Speaker 5: excited to see Tony come back because I feel like
Speaker 5: it's been so long since, like since he had competed,
Speaker 5: So there was a lot of people. If I haven't
Speaker 5: seen you as a fan on my TV screen in
Speaker 5: a long time, I was probably super excited to see
Speaker 5: you in the season forty House because I've been a
Speaker 5: fan so like someone like Mark. I mean obviously we've
Speaker 5: we've seen him on All Stars, but not on the Flagship.
Speaker 4: Or even Rage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, every like honestly everybody on Era one, I
Speaker 5: was super excited to see, uh.
Speaker 4: For Era two, let me think, I mean the girls
Speaker 4: are yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think all the girls on air. I
Speaker 5: got to give them the prop. So I'm like when
Speaker 5: I saw that team and I just saw the girl lineup,
Speaker 5: I said, oh wow, literally all of them on on
Speaker 5: Era two, I was like, this is lit. I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm going into some badass women, like the baddest women's
Speaker 5: of the challenge.
Speaker 4: Well, obviously you two weren't there, so it would have
Speaker 4: been more.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we were there in spirit and in safety,
Speaker 1: which is how I like to do it. In days
Speaker 1: Day Day's got some more in her. I know she does.
Speaker 1: We are encouraging Garding, and I am happy to be there.
Speaker 3: This is about the Wraith saying I need.
Speaker 5: I told you I needed to go on a season
Speaker 5: and play by your side.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Why.
Speaker 2: Can't we have a game that in my house and
Speaker 2: play spades? Dominated Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree. I would absolutely love that. I would pack
Speaker 1: lunches for you both. I would put little notes in there.
Speaker 1: I reach episode for you guys to open if you
Speaker 1: make that happen. Dead ser I want to be your
Speaker 1: call one day, like you call me in a joint call.
Speaker 1: I have to know.
Speaker 2: So we talked about because we're definitely about to shift
Speaker 2: about this conversation.
Speaker 3: The people who you know you were excited to see.
Speaker 3: Was there anybody there that was just a little bit
Speaker 3: less friendly than you thought he was?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Hold on, you see that's a yes.
Speaker 5: Man tells me that I need to stop being messy sometimes,
Speaker 5: Oh okay, tell Racio go.
Speaker 1: Sit somewhere for a minute.
Speaker 5: I like to keep it real, but I also don't
Speaker 5: like to make it seem like there's like a big
Speaker 5: like drama behind certain things.
Speaker 4: And that makes sense. But I also like to speak
Speaker 4: my mind.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean I will say like I wasn't
Speaker 5: excited to see Laurel and like there's there's no hiding that.
Speaker 5: I mean, people saw like that me and her got
Speaker 5: like had this weird like Twitter interaction.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah about the Yeah I remember that.
Speaker 5: So that put like a really like bad taste in
Speaker 5: my mouth about her going in there. And I still
Speaker 5: told myself, you know, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 5: like still go in there open minded because you never know,
Speaker 5: like you guys, like my best friend and roommate that
Speaker 5: I live with now, like we started off not liking
Speaker 5: each other, and she's my best friend and roommate now,
Speaker 5: So I try to stay open minded for people that
Speaker 5: you know, I don't instantly connect with, right, But I
Speaker 5: went in there with that mindset, and did she proved
Speaker 5: to me exactly why I shouldn't have felt that way.
Speaker 5: And so for me, like I am, I'm a very
Speaker 5: I would say like I'm nice, like I go up
Speaker 5: to people, I say hi to everybody. And there was
Speaker 5: just a lot of times where I felt as if
Speaker 5: like if I'm walking into a room, like why is
Speaker 5: a high it is only going to Orastio and not
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only three of us in the kitchen.
Speaker 5: You know, the nicest thing for you to do is
Speaker 5: also acknowledged me and not you know, shut down and
Speaker 5: not say anything to me and also continue to have
Speaker 5: a full blown conversation with my boyfriend right next to me,
Speaker 5: like like, who did that?
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Laurel still?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I find oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Because she used to like Carassio. Yeah, that's probably a
Speaker 1: little Yeah.
Speaker 5: So for me, that was probably the thing that just
Speaker 5: bothered me the most because I'm like, Okay, nobody cares
Speaker 5: like I I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm a very secure person.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you can be friends with whoever you please,
Speaker 5: but it's just the respect aspect if you are going
Speaker 5: to sit here and call my boyfriend one of your
Speaker 5: closest friends and then act according Yeah. So that was
Speaker 5: just my only my only thing I say. Aside from that,
Speaker 5: I was excited to see everybody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know what you said that on the podcast
Speaker 3: last season.
Speaker 2: You said that you appreciated their friendship and you you know,
Speaker 2: you were very supportive about it.
Speaker 1: So that's weird.
Speaker 4: That's weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't is it. I kind of I understand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a little maybe it was
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, what's your.
Speaker 3: Thing, Davin, because well, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a little And look, and I've
Speaker 1: I've been I like Laurel, and I think sometimes people
Speaker 1: see I mean again, at least in last episode, she's
Speaker 1: not beating the robot allegations sometimes and how she delivers.
Speaker 3: Things, well, we saw her heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen multiple sides of Laurel over the years
Speaker 1: I've played the game with her, Like, I genuinely appreciate her,
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes she does things that aren't great,
Speaker 1: but I do I appreciate her. But you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's probably still an element of crushing on Odossio, right,
Speaker 1: And Nuris is a beautiful woman but also a super
Speaker 1: talented and strong competitor, right, which I know Laurel prides
Speaker 1: herself on being an amazing competitor because she is, and
Speaker 1: she's also a beautiful woman. And so I think maybe
Speaker 1: there wasn't the best handling. And please, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: justifying it. I'm just providing explain it. Yeah, I'm providing
Speaker 1: context of what I perceive could potentially be.
Speaker 5: It wasn't the way that it has been because yeah,
Speaker 5: I met her on writer guyes and we had actually connected.
Speaker 5: We had such nice, deep talks to know her on
Speaker 5: a deeper level, and I felt like I understood her
Speaker 5: more because of that, and we actually were I wouldn't say,
Speaker 5: like friends are really close, but we were. I would
Speaker 5: say more than acquaintances, like I have you my close friends,
Speaker 5: Like I think that means a little something saying vice versa.
Speaker 5: Like she was someone who you know, we always did
Speaker 5: talk in the DMS, and she was someone that like
Speaker 5: sent me like a screenshot once when some fans were
Speaker 5: talking about me, and she sent me a thing like
Speaker 5: a message being like, you know, don't let the.
Speaker 4: Trolls get to you. Like, yeah, so we've had such
Speaker 4: great moments, you know.
Speaker 5: To see all that get thrown out the window because
Speaker 5: I'm now dating who I'm dating kind of just sucked
Speaker 5: because I'm like, it's not like I've I'm the person
Speaker 5: in the relationship.
Speaker 4: So if anybody was gonna be weird, you would think
Speaker 4: it's me, but it's not.
Speaker 5: I think that uses me because I'm like, I do
Speaker 5: respect her as a competitor, I also respect her as
Speaker 5: his friend, and so I just I'm I guess I'm confused.
Speaker 5: I'm not that comfort because, like you said, I guess
Speaker 5: I kind of know why, but it just sucks that
Speaker 5: it's happening.
Speaker 1: I agree, And maybe it's something that who knows down
Speaker 1: the road, you guys will get to talk about and
Speaker 1: squash because I think one hell of a dynamic duo
Speaker 1: that nobody would want to play against the two of you,
Speaker 1: like an alliance between the two of you. And I
Speaker 1: know that similar to you as she respects strong competitors,
Speaker 1: and yeah, very much are that. You know. Hell, if
Speaker 1: you and Olivia could leave this elimination talking about I
Speaker 1: love you, anything's possible in a challenge house.
Speaker 3: So you're just gonna say fix it jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Jesus, because I really want to see you
Speaker 2: guys come together.
Speaker 3: I think that'd be sood.
Speaker 5: I and I really, I mean, I wish I could
Speaker 5: be someone. I mean sometimes I can hold the grudge.
Speaker 5: It depends on what you do to me.
Speaker 1: Don't be THEO.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was like, but most of the.
Speaker 5: Time, I'm like, like I said, I I like to
Speaker 5: forgive people because I feel like it does more to
Speaker 5: me to hold the ground up to just forgive.
Speaker 4: So for me, Like I said, I'm I don't want problems.
Speaker 5: I didn't want problems, but yeah, I guess we'll see
Speaker 5: what the future holds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're giving you such a big hug. Legit, like
Speaker 1: you're just a good soul in and out, an excellent
Speaker 1: player to watch. So bummed that you're gone from this season.
Speaker 1: So excited though that you still get to have an
Speaker 1: impact with this karma twist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, my god, it's one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 5: Not the hardest thing to do either, And I'm mad
Speaker 5: that they made us vote from one to five because
Speaker 5: I'm like, I a lot of people deserve zeros. They
Speaker 5: all said one to five, so you had to give
Speaker 5: someone at least a one, which sucks because I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to give.
Speaker 3: You anything because that's a point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, Imagine if if I give someone a one
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, now like possibly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the thing that made them win, right.
Speaker 3: Beat myself up about that because I'm like that was mine?
Speaker 1: Right? Wait? So who did what was the official or
Speaker 1: so we know you gave Orossio a five? So who
Speaker 1: else who got a four? I don't so.
Speaker 5: Basically I think the people that the fives from me
Speaker 5: were like Kylin Orascio, of course, because those are my people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kara, I gave her a five, you know, I
Speaker 4: really want to see her.
Speaker 5: Win. I gave Jody a five because they both were
Speaker 5: such nice and welcoming people to me, both of us,
Speaker 5: that I couldn't forget. I couldn't forget that, like I
Speaker 5: was like, I don't know much, but like when someone
Speaker 5: tries hard and is very nice and very genuine, like
Speaker 5: I don't know, they had a soft spot in my heart.
Speaker 5: So I think they were pretty much the only people
Speaker 5: that I gave fives too. I remember correctly, I gave
Speaker 5: threes to the people that were my friends because or
Speaker 5: like acquaintances, I should say, Okay, I'm gonna still give
Speaker 5: you gus a point, but I'm not gonna give you
Speaker 5: as much as my man, because now if my man
Speaker 5: is in a final with you, absolutely not, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be sure that he has no more points.
Speaker 4: That's how I thought about it.
Speaker 5: So I think I gave people like Olivia Michelle pretty much.
Speaker 5: I think everybody in my era probably threes, and then
Speaker 5: everybody else pretty much got.
Speaker 1: One for me.
Speaker 3: And none for you.
Speaker 4: I literally like there were so many times where I
Speaker 4: kept looking at I kept looking at them.
Speaker 5: I'm like, can I just give a zero? And they're
Speaker 5: like no, just I'm like, can I give a zero?
Speaker 5: Can I just leave it blank?
Speaker 4: So definitely give people once strategic voting.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. So now that you're
Speaker 3: gone and we're sad to see you go, how do
Speaker 3: you feel like Air four is going to play the
Speaker 3: rest of this game?
Speaker 2: Like, how do you think that they're gonna do they
Speaker 2: have a shot at pulling this thing off? Like how
Speaker 2: are you feeling about your era? A man and everybody else?
Speaker 4: I honestly like, I think we're gonna do well.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know if it's because I'm biased because
Speaker 5: that is my era, but I can't like knowing how
Speaker 5: good of competitors and how well rounded Era four is.
Speaker 5: I really think that there should be no reason why
Speaker 5: Era four doesn't win probably the most dailies because they
Speaker 5: are like, like I forgot who said it, like we're
Speaker 5: young and vibrant or whatever. I think poly said it
Speaker 5: or whatever, And I'm like, I think I think that
Speaker 5: should play a big part in it. I also think
Speaker 5: think the same thing about Era three. So Era three
Speaker 5: and four were the ones that I was going for
Speaker 5: the most because I felt like they have the most
Speaker 5: well rounded teams as in male and females.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, I don't, I didn't. I didn't see that
Speaker 4: for Era two so much, and then I don't know
Speaker 4: Era one. I love them at all, Like I.
Speaker 5: Like I said, they're they're the ogs, They're they're the greats,
Speaker 5: they're the best, the best to come out of the challenge.
Speaker 5: But I just feel like being young is gonna it's
Speaker 5: gonna help us.
Speaker 4: So I think.
Speaker 5: Arapour has a great shot of taking this all the
Speaker 5: way to the end. Also, obviously I got my best friends,
Speaker 5: but I got Kylin and Roscia both there, and they're
Speaker 5: freaking beasts. So if they're on that team, there should
Speaker 5: be no reason why they're not winning, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, air Force pretty stagged. I mean all of the
Speaker 2: eras are stagged, but yeah, air Force pretty staffed for sure.
Speaker 1: Speaking of all the eras, it's the one last messy
Speaker 1: thing that you have to do this episode. So we
Speaker 1: are doing this season the superlatives for each era, So superlatives,
Speaker 1: you know, like in high school, it's like most likely
Speaker 1: to I actually was voted most likely to host a
Speaker 1: talk show funny enough. So it's like most likely to
Speaker 1: could be, most likely to lose, most likely to fight,
Speaker 1: most likely to it could be anything you want it
Speaker 1: to be, but we want to do it for each era,
Speaker 1: and we're asking every guest this. So starting with Era one,
Speaker 1: Era one, you would say is most likely to most.
Speaker 5: Likely to be in bed by eight pm.
Speaker 1: You are not the first person.
Speaker 3: To say that era that is my kind of era.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I love it. Era two is most likely to.
Speaker 4: Most likely to beat each other up.
Speaker 1: Also not the first first time. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: pretty consistent, Yes, okay. Era three is most likely to.
Speaker 5: Hmmm, air three something along the lines of like, most
Speaker 5: likely to have the most amount of challenge hookups within
Speaker 5: their like not like that, like they're they're the daters,
Speaker 5: like all of them, Like they're the daters on the
Speaker 5: on the challenge from like all these seasons. So I'm
Speaker 5: not saying like necessarily they're all going to be hooking
Speaker 5: up with each other on the season, but they are
Speaker 5: definitely the ones.
Speaker 4: That will be doing the politicking.
Speaker 1: That is hilarie. Literally, we have heard these answers about
Speaker 1: YEA consistently, which is hilarious. All right, and then your
Speaker 1: era airport. Most likely to win Battle of the Eras,
Speaker 1: like the Contents. Okay, that's a new one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I gotta give them some shine.
Speaker 5: Most likely to be on the next ten seasons of
Speaker 5: the Challenge.
Speaker 1: Yeah not you all supporting agism. You know what Era
Speaker 1: one will.
Speaker 3: Be there with their canescal era. It's the new era.
Speaker 3: They come in.
Speaker 2: My goodness, Theresa, I'm so glad you came to hang
Speaker 2: out with us. Yes, I love when you come on
Speaker 2: the podcast. We have such a good time. Tell the
Speaker 2: people where they can find you and Hirascio because they
Speaker 2: are one, they are united, and one package. But on'
Speaker 2: be DM and him because she gonna see it. One package.
Speaker 3: Where can they find you?
Speaker 4: And for you girls that have sent to Newds, don't
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Noah, you're wrong.
Speaker 3: You're wrong.
Speaker 1: You put your clothes on.
Speaker 3: You're wrong.
Speaker 4: It happens.
Speaker 3: It happens.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, it happens.
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys can find me at Nurice cam a
Speaker 5: tale on Instagram. That's and you are y s k
Speaker 5: M at e O and I probably post Rossio every
Speaker 5: other day with me, so you both, Yeah, gir you do.
Speaker 4: I'll just find his tag there. But otherwise you can
Speaker 4: find him at what Junior.
Speaker 1: You you too.
Speaker 2: Wherever you find me, you gonna find you want to
Speaker 2: follow me, and you want to follow him too, And
Speaker 2: actually they probably want to follow him more than they
Speaker 2: want to follow.
Speaker 1: Me, you know what. I'm gonna just say, though, that's
Speaker 1: not true because I actually don't know if I even
Speaker 1: follow her us. I don't think. I mean, no Shade,
Speaker 1: I door Rossia obviously, but I follow you because you
Speaker 1: are everything all on your own and seeing you two
Speaker 1: together and so happy and supportive and having made it
Speaker 1: through so much stuff is beautiful to watch. But you
Speaker 1: are amazing, like he's lucky to have you in the
Speaker 1: same way you're lucky to have him, and people following
Speaker 1: you are doing so because you're an inspiration all on
Speaker 1: your own and you prove that time and time again
Speaker 1: season thirty nine and beyond so happy to have you
Speaker 1: in the Challenge family. We will definitely see you back
Speaker 1: and don't sell yourself short.
Speaker 4: Oh you guys are literally I love you guys so much.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 4: I'm also I told her, I'll see I'm like now.
Speaker 5: The only thing is I was like, let's take a
Speaker 5: page out of Pauli and Kara's book and let's learn
Speaker 5: to tie some nuts.
Speaker 1: And that's how we end the episode.
Speaker 2: There we go, so all glad and reason was able
Speaker 2: to come and hang out with us on the podcast today.
Speaker 2: That was an incredible episode. Oh my gosh, incredible season everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah good. I love this. I love this.
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Speaker 1: This is such a happy space, you guys. I'm so
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