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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Friday. It's a meat Friday.
Speaker 3: And what a great group again all three days, wonderful
Speaker 3: people lined up for a couple hours to be able
Speaker 3: to get in and uh, well, see if Fritzie wants.
Speaker 2: To hug them, have you gone out?
Speaker 4: And I got to hug very recently about two minutes
Speaker 4: ago and extended hug there.
Speaker 2: Did you ask about it or did somebody else ask you?
Speaker 4: It was initiated by the young lady in the front,
Speaker 4: and it lasted a little longer to the point where
Speaker 4: I thought I had to call my wife to explain
Speaker 4: that they had a situation.
Speaker 2: So wait, you're blaming her, not.
Speaker 4: Blaming her, But if it would have lasted three more seconds,
Speaker 4: I would have felt like I had to share something
Speaker 4: with my bride to let her know that we.
Speaker 2: Had a little moment.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I wouldn't feel guilty on the flight home.
Speaker 5: But it was very nice.
Speaker 4: She was very cordial and very sweet.
Speaker 6: And excited to be here.
Speaker 2: Thank you Tom.
Speaker 6: And she said that I.
Speaker 4: Get picked on a lot, which was very nice that
Speaker 4: she acknowledged the bullying.
Speaker 5: That goes on in her.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, apreciate that at all.
Speaker 4: She said, we love you, even though they give you
Speaker 4: a hard time all the time, but.
Speaker 2: We love But why did you bring that? You didn't
Speaker 2: need to bring that up.
Speaker 4: Just now explaining what that I just it was part
Speaker 4: of the experience of the moment that.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like it was just initiated by it.
Speaker 3: I think you had a reason to bring that up
Speaker 3: to let everybody know you get picked on.
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin, I.
Speaker 7: Want to feel bad for Fristy sometimes, but with this show,
Speaker 7: I always say, everybody here has a closed fist and
Speaker 7: sometimes we don't even swing.
Speaker 2: He just runs right right. That is that is true.
Speaker 2: That's very well said.
Speaker 3: Yes, like when you didn't think the Broncos had a
Speaker 3: first round draft pick while being a diehard Bronco fan,
Speaker 3: you walked right into my fist.
Speaker 4: The sad thing is we have computers and the Internet,
Speaker 4: and like I could have been a second just checked
Speaker 4: on my own instead of realizing if I just say
Speaker 4: that out loud, I'm gonna get crushed for that.
Speaker 5: For some reason, that that was accurate that the Broncos
Speaker 5: had a twenty.
Speaker 3: Like there's been mock drafts. Did you ever look at
Speaker 3: a mock draft and go, oh, wonder what they.
Speaker 2: I think I looked at one to nineteen. You've just missed.
Speaker 2: We missed the Broncos. By the way, it's a meat Friday.
Speaker 3: We have wings and the bar is famous for their flats,
Speaker 3: also cheese, curds and brats.
Speaker 2: Today. Who has it better than we do?
Speaker 3: No, boy, that's what I love here, all right? So
Speaker 3: day two, in case you're wondering, and I'm sure you are,
Speaker 3: who is going to draft Shador Sanders? ESPN and NFL
Speaker 3: Network spent a lot of time talking about a guy
Speaker 3: who didn't get drafted last night. So the Browns are
Speaker 3: the favorites, and I think they take him with the
Speaker 3: first pick of the second round. Then it's the Raiders, Saints,
Speaker 3: and then the Steelers, Jets and Rams distant third, a
Speaker 3: distant fourth. They're all tied at plus twelve hundred. But
Speaker 3: is there an over under PAULI today on when Shoudoor?
Speaker 3: Are we establishing an over under on when Shadoor Sanders
Speaker 3: gets drafted?
Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't seen it this morning, but like you said,
Speaker 8: the second round starts with Brown's Texans, Titans, Browns again, Raiders, Patriots, Bears,
Speaker 8: Saints had the eighth pick of the second round.
Speaker 2: Jalen Milroe get drafted today.
Speaker 9: M hm.
Speaker 3: His odds to be taken by the Browns plus two hundred,
Speaker 3: mister irrelevant to be a quarterback plus eight hundred in
Speaker 3: case you were curious about that, All right, eight seven
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Speaker 3: hour two. Then we bring in our good friend Rick
Speaker 3: Neuheisel Seeton. Yeah, right now, we got up there long term.
Speaker 3: Who made the better move? The Browns or the Jaguars?
Speaker 3: Sixty seven percent say the Jaguars? Okay, right, okay? What
Speaker 3: else you're gonna put up something new?
Speaker 9: We're also putting up there right now. Who will be
Speaker 9: the NFL Rookie of the Year, cam Ward, Travis Hunter, Austin.
Speaker 2: Gent Okay or other or other? Yes as well? Right now?
Speaker 9: Fifty six percent of that vote has Travis Hunter, followed
Speaker 9: by Ashton genty okay, cam Ward zero percent.
Speaker 3: I have the over underpassing yards for cam Ward for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: You guys want to take a.
Speaker 3: Guess over under. According to DraftKings, cam Ward rookie year, Marvin.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven hundred yards, Todd twenty seven to twelve one
Speaker 2: dollar twenty seven thirteen Paul twenty two fifty thirty two
Speaker 2: fifty thirty two hundred and fifty yards for cam Ward
Speaker 2: does not happen. Wow, what you're taking the under?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I'm going to take the under on that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Like, who's he throwing the ball to?
Speaker 6: In Tennessee?
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know. They got some guy, don't they?
Speaker 3: They have to Yeah, I think so. I think you
Speaker 3: have to ask.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think are we playing name your Titans wide receivers?
Speaker 8: We don't have time for that.
Speaker 2: Kevin Dyson, Calvin.
Speaker 8: Ridley, Tyler Lockett, Van Jefferson. Oh yeah, they just got Lockett,
Speaker 8: Traylon Burks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Burks is a.
Speaker 3: Former first run rack pick, right, all right, so he's
Speaker 3: got some guys to throw to. He is Rick Neuheisel,
Speaker 3: a former coach and uh he is hosting every round
Speaker 3: of the draft coverage here in Green Bay and throughout
Speaker 3: the year you can hear him hosting Full Ride on
Speaker 3: Serious XM College Sports Radio. Rick new Isael Jones is
Speaker 3: on the program here.
Speaker 5: That's t boy.
Speaker 2: How do we know it?
Speaker 5: How's everybody?
Speaker 2: My man? Buddy?
Speaker 10: How you been?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Rick is hosting his radio show right now, right now
Speaker 3: while he's on my show. So nothing like working exactly.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for the respect. Great to see you.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you the question been asking everybody else.
Speaker 3: You're Cleveland, you're on the clock last night.
Speaker 2: You would have done what.
Speaker 10: I might have traded into the first round there for
Speaker 10: that thirty second pick, just switched with the Chiefs. I
Speaker 10: might have traded into that just because you get the
Speaker 10: fifth year. If in fact Shadur's the choice, you'd love
Speaker 10: to have a quarterback for that fifth year, and if
Speaker 10: he hits like you all hope that he will, then
Speaker 10: you've got an extra year to negotiate him being the
Speaker 10: franchise guy going forward. But that was the story of
Speaker 10: the draft. You know, the weight whether or not Shador
Speaker 10: is going to last. All the stories that were coming
Speaker 10: about about interviews and body language and things of that nature.
Speaker 10: At the end of the day, they're going to start
Speaker 10: looking now at the tape again and see that Shador
Speaker 10: Sanders is a courageous player.
Speaker 2: In the pocket.
Speaker 10: He stands in there and takes people right in his
Speaker 10: face and still throws accurately seventy four percent passer. In
Speaker 10: some ways, it is almost like they were teaching him
Speaker 10: a little lesson in human But now somebody wants to
Speaker 10: get a really good player.
Speaker 2: Would you have taken Travis Hunter if you're Cleveland?
Speaker 10: I think Travis Hunter is a unique athlete, and I
Speaker 10: thought that Andrew Berry the GM was going to take
Speaker 10: him when he called him the show Hey Atani of
Speaker 10: the NFL. I said, you can't say that about him
Speaker 10: and then not take him. But what he was doing
Speaker 10: was pitching that to some suitors because now he gets
Speaker 10: Jacksonville's I think first rounder next year, right, and they
Speaker 10: get Mason Graham, who helps make Miles Garrett a better
Speaker 10: player and more worth the money they just paid Miles
Speaker 10: Garrett because he's going to attract so.
Speaker 2: Much attention inside. So what would you have done?
Speaker 10: I like what Jackson did. I think Liam Cohen is
Speaker 10: a terrific young coach. The Tampa Bay offense is exhibit
Speaker 10: a of the evidence of that. I think he's got
Speaker 10: a star on both sides of the ball. We got
Speaker 10: a chance to interview Travis after he was selected. What
Speaker 10: a bright kid, an believably confident young man, and I
Speaker 10: mean that in a very kind way. But there's no
Speaker 10: question in my mind that he can play both sides
Speaker 10: of the ball if his body will hold up. And
Speaker 10: that will be interesting to see how they use him
Speaker 10: as the kind of the Swiss Army Knife of Jacksonville's franchise.
Speaker 3: But Daniel Jeremiah said that what the Browns were going
Speaker 3: to have him major in offense and minor in defense.
Speaker 10: That's right to go along with Jerry Judy. I think
Speaker 10: Liam Cohen, being an offensive guy, has got all sorts
Speaker 10: of plans for him offensively. But the one thing, and
Speaker 10: he knows this from his college coach Deon Sanders, you
Speaker 10: can play lockdown.
Speaker 2: He has the skill set. You just go lock that
Speaker 2: guy down.
Speaker 10: And to the gift for a defensive coordinator to have
Speaker 10: somebody that can take the number one receiver away, in
Speaker 10: particular into the boundary, you can play all sorts of
Speaker 10: other things with your ten other guys that can found
Speaker 10: aquarterback as long as you can take their alpha away.
Speaker 10: And I think Travis Hunter has the gifts to do that.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Rick new heisl the CBS Sports college
Speaker 3: football analyst former college head coach. When you see cam
Speaker 3: Ward in his grade this year, but if he was
Speaker 3: drafted last year, would have been maybe the sixth or
Speaker 3: seventh right quarterback. Okay, does it make sense for Tennessee
Speaker 3: to take a guy who would have been these sixth
Speaker 3: or seventh quarterback a year ago and you take him
Speaker 3: number one overall?
Speaker 10: It may not make sense to Tennessee, but it certainly
Speaker 10: did to Brian Callahan. He's got to have a guy.
Speaker 10: And Will Levis, for all his attributes, still has what
Speaker 10: I call a panic reflex when the bullets start flying
Speaker 10: in a pocket. There was a bit wanting to get
Speaker 10: the ball out and it was irresponsible. Too many turnovers,
Speaker 10: whether it was fumbles or interceptions.
Speaker 2: Cam War Is that fixable?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 5: Potentially?
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 10: I think Bo Nicks had that. I think Bo Nick's
Speaker 10: had that at Auburn, and I think it's calmed down
Speaker 10: at Oregon. Still was evident, but we just saw him
Speaker 10: emerge in the second half of the season last year
Speaker 10: with getting better and better. So uh yeah, I think
Speaker 10: it is fixable. It's gonna you have to really pound
Speaker 10: it with attention, and I don't know how much more
Speaker 10: many more snaps Will Levis is gonna get in Tennessee
Speaker 10: now that they've invested the way they have in ward.
Speaker 2: But if you watch ward, whether it.
Speaker 10: Be an incarnate word, Washington State or this last year
Speaker 10: at Miami, an unusual amount of calm, a Mahomesyan amount
Speaker 10: of calm in terms of just finding Houdini ways out
Speaker 10: of the pocket and making a play, sometimes to his detriment,
Speaker 10: making a turnover, and he'll have to correct that. But
Speaker 10: unusual poise in the in the pocket that when it,
Speaker 10: when it, you know, the house is on fire, or
Speaker 10: the houses on fire. He gets the baby out of
Speaker 10: the house, he gets it out. So I think it
Speaker 10: was a wise choice, the right choice given their situation.
Speaker 10: And I hope cam Ward I heard that thirty two fifty.
Speaker 10: I think that's probably about right. You guys are all.
Speaker 10: I think twenty seven hundred somewhere in there. I would
Speaker 10: have taken the over of all where you were. I
Speaker 10: would have said three thousands that I think the guys gifted.
Speaker 10: Give me the strategy you didn't like from last night.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh.
Speaker 10: You know they have dealt let Justin Fields walk out
Speaker 10: the door. They've let Russell Wilson walk out the door,
Speaker 10: Mason Rudolph comes back. He knows the culture, and no
Speaker 10: one has a more indoctrinated culture than the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 10: So I know they feel comfortable with Mason Rudolph, but
Speaker 10: they don't have a second round pick right now. What
Speaker 10: are they going to do if there's you know, Chador
Speaker 10: probably will be gone. I don't know if the kid
Speaker 10: from Louisville will be gone, Tyler Shuck. You know, it's
Speaker 10: a fascinating tale for the Steelers. I think Milroe would
Speaker 10: have been a great pick. They have played against Lamar
Speaker 10: Jackson for a number of years and know what kind
Speaker 10: of a headache that is, And especially now that you
Speaker 10: have dk Metcalf and Pickings as your alpha receivers, much
Speaker 10: like the Eagles have DeVante Smith and aj Brown. When
Speaker 10: you have those two guys and you always get single
Speaker 10: high because you have to have eight men in the
Speaker 10: box because the quarterback's a run threat, that's a nightmare.
Speaker 10: And the Eagles took it all the way to the
Speaker 10: National championship. And it's a case study right there with
Speaker 10: Jalen Hurts at Alabama as a sixty percent passer before
Speaker 10: he went to Oklahoma and now Milrose is sixty four
Speaker 10: sixty five percent. I know he's sixteen and eleven were
Speaker 10: not touchdown interception ratio this year, but last year it
Speaker 10: was like twenty something to eight. I think Milroe was
Speaker 10: worth something for the Steelers. I'm surprised they haven't figured
Speaker 10: out a way to get to him because with those
Speaker 10: two alphas outsire as the receivers and his ability to
Speaker 10: throw the ball deep, he would have been a real
Speaker 10: weapon for the Steelers.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was told last night that the Steelers like
Speaker 2: the kid out of Louisville. Yeah, Tyler shuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they might that might be a third round
Speaker 3: pick for them, but I was.
Speaker 2: Told that they like him. Yeah.
Speaker 10: Listen to Saints are in the quarterback market. Obviously Cleveland's
Speaker 10: going to be in the quarterback market. I just for
Speaker 10: them to be without a second round pick makes me
Speaker 10: nervous for them.
Speaker 3: You normally give us a song when you see us
Speaker 3: in person.
Speaker 2: So this is how this worked, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 10: I get a call this morning, Hey, well, do you
Speaker 10: have your guitar like I travel like a bandolier, like,
Speaker 10: you know, with my guitar on my back. You know,
Speaker 10: Bob Dylan, you know, coming across the country. I said,
Speaker 10: thank goodness, I don't. Oh but we have one. But
Speaker 10: we have one. Yeah, we So I've got to.
Speaker 2: You've got a.
Speaker 10: Guitar here, So I penned a quick song. Okay, I
Speaker 10: penned a quick song. We'll see if this works, but
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to. And by the way, did you
Speaker 10: all know that I was born in Wisconsin, the son
Speaker 10: of Dick and Jane Newheisel.
Speaker 1: Dick and Jane new Heiseel.
Speaker 10: Dick is from Cashton, Jane is from Veroqua and both
Speaker 10: went to the University of Wisconsin. I was born right
Speaker 10: there in Madison and Madison General And when Dick Vermial
Speaker 10: and Brent Musburger I coached. My first game at Colorado
Speaker 10: was at Camp Randall against the Badgers. So you know,
Speaker 10: those two guys took Dick and Jane in a car
Speaker 10: for the sight seeing tour around the campus. He pointed
Speaker 10: out the hospital and said, that's where my mom said,
Speaker 10: that's where Rick was born, and my dad pointed at
Speaker 10: a Cadillac and that's where Rick was conceived. Oh whoa,
Speaker 10: that didn't go over so up, Jane, do you want
Speaker 10: to bring the microphone up there a little bit, Marvin,
Speaker 10: would you help?
Speaker 2: Come on, Marv, what.
Speaker 10: Are we doing here? So this given what a place
Speaker 10: last night? Little Diddy about Dion.
Speaker 11: And Song.
Speaker 10: They went last night thinking they were number one, No
Speaker 10: worries sor can still be a star. Just gonna have
Speaker 10: to start in the back seat of someone's car.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, singing life goes on long after the thrill
Speaker 2: of being number one.
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, singing store will go on. That's all root
Speaker 10: for the kid because he stur ain't number one. Something
Speaker 10: like that. You know, very little time, very little time.
Speaker 3: You're the John Lennon of former college coaches. I mean,
Speaker 3: just you whip that up outside. We hand you a
Speaker 3: guitar over here.
Speaker 10: Going I gotta have something that I can't When you
Speaker 10: have no talent, there has to be something that draws
Speaker 10: away from the fact that you have no talent.
Speaker 3: Well, you did give us Born in the Sec, Born
Speaker 3: in the SEC. That was a hit. That was a hit,
Speaker 3: That was great. Yeah, we had the Johnny Manziel tribute
Speaker 3: song as well, the Ballad of John Ballad of Johnny.
Speaker 10: Down in the West, down in the Bad Lens they
Speaker 10: call College Station lived a young Aggie named Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Great to see you. Now you can go
Speaker 2: back to your.
Speaker 10: Show that I'm gonna go do my show. He is,
Speaker 10: Rick Neuheisel, You're the best. Thank you so much, Thank you, coach.
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Speaker 3: We'll get some more phone calls coming up. I got
Speaker 3: a couple things right. I think I was on the
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart first Round bandwagon, uh pretty early, and Ashton
Speaker 3: gent was going to go to the Raiders, so I
Speaker 3: got those and cam Ward was gonna.
Speaker 2: Go number one overall. Nailed out, Yeah, nailed that one.
Speaker 3: I think I was the only one that got cam
Speaker 3: Ward going number one over on all those mock drafts.
Speaker 2: Yes, have you gone on there?
Speaker 8: If you like what the Giants are doing Wilson and
Speaker 8: Jackson Dart, you like that.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would have gone for Jackson Dart
Speaker 3: to trade back in to go for him.
Speaker 2: If he would have fallen to me, then maybe I
Speaker 2: like Abdul Carter. I like that a lot.
Speaker 3: But you got Russ and Jamis for a year or
Speaker 3: two and then Jackson. Now I do like Jackson Dart,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if you trade back in and
Speaker 3: it's a great name killer. And if you're going to
Speaker 3: be a quarterback, you're Jackson Dart, You're throwing darts. ESPN
Speaker 3: Draft day coverage continues tonight at seven Eastern and then
Speaker 3: Saturday at noon on the Mothership. Lewis Riddick part of
Speaker 3: the coverage. I don't think he's had much sleep.
Speaker 2: He worked the draft last night.
Speaker 3: Let's make way for ESPN's Lewis's ready, who joins us
Speaker 3: on the program?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 12: I'm just I'm just I'm just kind of like I'm
Speaker 12: just kind of like making my way. Man, I'm a
Speaker 12: little bit like a zombie. So I apologize. How's everybody
Speaker 12: doing out there? I don't know they slept either, but
Speaker 12: you know they have They have a lot of things
Speaker 12: to be happy. What a great scene, by the way,
Speaker 12: last night, to go back, go pack, go chant.
Speaker 5: It's one of the iconic chants. Man, it was.
Speaker 12: It's such a cool scene. I just hope they can
Speaker 12: duplicate it tonight. We need the energy. How much sleep
Speaker 12: have you had?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 12: Man, it's hard to it's hard to like kind of
Speaker 12: like come down off of that because you know, you're
Speaker 12: so locked in for four or five hours straight you're
Speaker 12: analyzing every picture to answer your question. Maybe about three
Speaker 12: hours or so, three or four hours, it's about it.
Speaker 3: Sleep a little bit today, and then you get ready
Speaker 3: for I have no time.
Speaker 5: I have no time. I'm leaving you.
Speaker 12: I'm going to another production meeting and I'm gonna go
Speaker 12: to see rich Eysen. Then I have to get dressed
Speaker 12: and we have a car and then meetings. Yeah, this weekend,
Speaker 12: it's all go, man, I'll go.
Speaker 3: I'm a little worried about Mel Kiper with Shador Sanders
Speaker 3: not getting drafted last night.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mel When you know when when Mel,
Speaker 12: when Mel gets locked in, you know how that goes.
Speaker 12: He wants he believes what he believes, and that's part
Speaker 12: of like, that's part of draft evaluation, right, you get
Speaker 12: convicted on something, and you know, the one of the
Speaker 12: things you have to do. I guess, though, Dan, when
Speaker 12: you're when you're having when you're in the middle of
Speaker 12: the broadcast, is Look, these are these individual players moment
Speaker 12: in time that they're never gonna have again. So you
Speaker 12: don't want to rob anyone else of their time because
Speaker 12: you personally feel a certain way about maybe another player.
Speaker 12: And I think sometimes you know, fans can get they
Speaker 12: get annoyed at that, and I get that, And I
Speaker 12: know there were some people who were a little annoyed
Speaker 12: last night that they thought that after Cam got picked
Speaker 12: at our conversation quickly shifted to where's Shoudor.
Speaker 5: Gonna wind up going? And I get that, I understand it.
Speaker 12: But Mel's very he Look, he believes what he believes
Speaker 12: about shud Or the same way I believe what I
Speaker 12: believed about c J. Stroud and Jayden Daniels, you know,
Speaker 12: to the past two years. So we'll see how it
Speaker 12: all turns out.
Speaker 2: How surprised were you that he wasn't taken in the
Speaker 2: first round.
Speaker 12: Uh, I am, but I'm not because see I'm surprised
Speaker 12: because look, I know the football player. I know that
Speaker 12: this young man. If you strip away the fact that
Speaker 12: he's Shoudore Sanders and he's Deon Sanders's son, and that
Speaker 12: he is someone who is very confident, very self assured,
Speaker 12: someone who has lived a great life because of his father,
Speaker 12: has had a great life. That there are some people
Speaker 12: who just inherently are very jealous of that. And look,
Speaker 12: when you're talking about player evaluation, there is a subjective
Speaker 12: personal component to it. You cannot it's hard for a guy. Look,
Speaker 12: they're human beings who are evaluating these guys and human
Speaker 12: beings who are picking them. And sometimes if someone comes
Speaker 12: off the wrong way to you or you don't like
Speaker 12: it, it just doesn't jive with you, it's going to affect
Speaker 12: your evaluation. But the evaluation on the football field cannot
Speaker 12: be disputed. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
Speaker 12: There are many people who would tell you, look, throw
Speaker 12: for throw, he can match up with anybody in this draft,
Speaker 12: whether that's Cam whether that's Jackson Darr, whether that's Tyler
Speaker 12: he can match up throw for throw. He had no
Speaker 12: help at Colorado, no offensive line like he had more
Speaker 12: free runners come at him over the past two years
Speaker 12: in any quarterback in FBS. But still he slid. So
Speaker 12: what does that tell you? There's there's some things that
Speaker 12: people just don't like or don't feel our worth first
Speaker 12: round value.
Speaker 5: He's gonna get picked today. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 12: If you thought he had a chip on his shoulder before,
Speaker 12: if you thought he was a little bit surly before,
Speaker 12: look out, give me.
Speaker 2: The draft Knight strategy. You didn't understand.
Speaker 12: I didn't understand, you know, I think, look, I understand why.
Speaker 12: I think the one that was probably a little bit
Speaker 12: of a of a risk. Look, I mean Atlanta gave
Speaker 12: up a lot to move up in order to draft
Speaker 12: James Pierce. Okay, who had some concerns about you know,
Speaker 12: just are you gonna be able to trust James Pierce
Speaker 12: to do the right things all the time and be
Speaker 12: a dependable player and really fix the number one thing
Speaker 12: that has haunted Atlanta over the past four years, which
Speaker 12: is they just can't rush the passing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just can't.
Speaker 12: James Pierce is like Javon Kurse, though in terms of
Speaker 12: athletic ability six five to forty five runs four four seven.
Speaker 12: I mean, that's ridiculous, but it's that. But that's that's
Speaker 12: not really what determined success and failure all the time.
Speaker 12: It's about doing the right thing, being consistent and all that.
Speaker 12: So the price that they paid in order to get him. Look,
Speaker 12: I understand like when you're trying to get pass rushers,
Speaker 12: you're trying to get difference makers that you will you
Speaker 12: will sometimes go above and beyond which you originally thought
Speaker 12: you would. I just hope that play that pans out
Speaker 12: for Rahimuh and the crew and Terry font know to
Speaker 12: GM down there in Atlanta because they need him to.
Speaker 5: Hit big, real big.
Speaker 2: I thought the Steelers were going to take a running back.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't have Nagee Harris, right, they'd love
Speaker 3: to run the football, true, but you.
Speaker 12: Know what cam Habard's getting is getting older. The defense,
Speaker 12: although it has been like their bedrock, they need to
Speaker 12: replenish it.
Speaker 5: I get what I'm when I'm.
Speaker 2: Surprised, you don't you don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 5: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 12: Look and I'm not I'm not really defending them. I'm
Speaker 12: just kind of like trying to look at it through
Speaker 12: their eyes. Look, Derek Harmon has to be big time
Speaker 12: for them. He has to be the next game Cam Hayward.
Speaker 12: He has to be the next Aaron Smith, all those
Speaker 12: guys that were there and that played great football and
Speaker 12: helped them win super Bowls and be, you know, perennial
Speaker 12: super bowl contenders.
Speaker 5: Look, I agree with you, though I agree with you.
Speaker 5: What are they going to do at quarterback?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 5: It's it's Aaron Rodgers or bust.
Speaker 2: It just is.
Speaker 5: And that is a hell of a position to be in.
Speaker 5: Would you want to count on that?
Speaker 2: No? Would you want to.
Speaker 12: Count on him making a decision anytime soon? Does he
Speaker 12: sound like someone who wants to make a decision anytime soon?
Speaker 12: Absolutely not. And they're not going anywhere with Mason Rudolph.
Speaker 12: As much as I respect Mason.
Speaker 3: Rudolph, I was told last night they liked the quarterback
Speaker 3: out of Louisville Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 5: Look, I think he's.
Speaker 11: That.
Speaker 12: You know, he's still He's still a guy who will
Speaker 12: be a two contract quarterback. He'll play ten fifteen years
Speaker 12: in the NFL. All the medical checks that he has had, Yeah,
Speaker 12: you know, because that's the other thing that people worry
Speaker 12: about the injuries that he had. Look, he broke his
Speaker 12: collarbone twice running the football, got hit right on it,
Speaker 12: had someone roll on his ankle, fracture his lower leg.
Speaker 12: Those are things that can happen to any quarter You
Speaker 12: can't you can't prevent that. So he's not injury prone.
Speaker 5: But I will tell you this, what he is is maybe.
Speaker 12: Maybe the most throw for throw, most talented thrower in
Speaker 12: his draft is what he is. He can throw the
Speaker 12: football right alongside Milroe, cam Chador, Jackson, all of them.
Speaker 12: You just haven't heard about him. And he's been tutored
Speaker 12: by Jeff and Brian Brohm down there in Louisville. There
Speaker 12: aren't any better quarterback tutors in college football. Wherever he goes,
Speaker 12: just remember that name, Remember Tyler Shuck's name. He is
Speaker 12: going to surprise the entire NFL in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: He's got a spell his name differently. I think.
Speaker 5: S H O U g H does not sound like Shuck,
Speaker 5: does it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, our quarterback Shucks. He's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership
Speaker 3: joining us and of course the draft A coverage continues
Speaker 3: tonight at seven eastern.
Speaker 2: The Rookie of the Year will be who It'll be.
Speaker 12: Travis Hunter. He's just I said it when I was
Speaker 12: out there at his pro day. In all my years
Speaker 12: of football, I used to come up here to Green Bay.
Speaker 12: My cousin was Tim Lewis, who was drafted here in
Speaker 12: nineteen eighty three as the first round pick, the eleventh
Speaker 12: overall pick. I used to come up here and train
Speaker 12: with him in the summertime. So I was around James Lofton.
Speaker 12: I've been around Andre Reid and Buffalo and my brother
Speaker 12: played there when James Laughton was there. I played with
Speaker 12: Jerry Rice, played against Jerry Rice, Michael Irvin, all these dudes.
Speaker 12: I have never seen hand eye coordination like Travis Hunter
Speaker 12: in my life. He is He's the natural. He's just
Speaker 12: a natural athlete. He's a natural football player, and he's
Speaker 12: a guy who, look, he's gonna change the game. And
Speaker 12: James Gladstone, the GM of the Jaguars, talked about that
Speaker 12: that this is a guy who's probably, when it's all
Speaker 12: said and done, is going to redefine how we evaluate
Speaker 12: football players. And maybe you know, he will be the
Speaker 12: standard by which a lot of guys, especially at skill positions,
Speaker 12: are going to be are going to be judged from
Speaker 12: now on. He's got a tremendous cardiovascular engine that I'd
Speaker 12: love to see him take one of those tests like
Speaker 12: Lance Armstrong took one of those VO two max tests
Speaker 12: because what he did at Colorado and you're not so human.
Speaker 12: Beings aren't supposed to be able to do, especially not
Speaker 12: at out.
Speaker 2: That you like to Yeah, I'm going to say that.
Speaker 12: And when I watched him catching the ball out there
Speaker 12: at out there in Boulder, he didn't he didn't wear gloves.
Speaker 12: Everybody wears gloves nowadays, right, you know that the technology
Speaker 12: not with gloves. You just put your hand up there.
Speaker 12: It just the ball just sticks to it. He had
Speaker 12: no gloves on. And I'm telling you, Chador was humming
Speaker 12: that football and you would just hear it as if
Speaker 12: it you were throwing that ball into a pillow.
Speaker 5: You heard nothing. He wasn't even looking.
Speaker 12: It was just like like it was just like and
Speaker 12: all just a sudden, you're looking at My mouth is
Speaker 12: dropped open, like what is happening to me?
Speaker 3: But you're giving all of this credit and praise? Did
Speaker 3: Cleveland make a mistake?
Speaker 5: I would have taken him if I was Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would have taken.
Speaker 12: Him for a number of reasons. One, he's gonna put
Speaker 12: people in the stands. You're gonna want to go. You're
Speaker 12: gonna want to go see Travis the same way people
Speaker 12: when I played with Dion wanted to come watch Deon
Speaker 12: Sanders play.
Speaker 5: It was a show. I mean you know what that
Speaker 5: was like.
Speaker 12: Every time he touched the ball, you were like, this,
Speaker 12: dude's about to do something that's gonna be on Sports Center.
Speaker 2: But Dion could have done this, done what played both ways?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he could have. He could have And you
Speaker 5: know what, and Travis.
Speaker 12: Travis is not gonna play one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 12: hundred and thirty snaps combined offense defense every game. He
Speaker 12: can't do that in the NFL. You can do that
Speaker 12: in college, you can't do that in the NFL. And besides,
Speaker 12: you'll probably burn him out by about.
Speaker 5: Three or four years. Anyway, do you really want to
Speaker 5: do that to me?
Speaker 12: It's probably going to be like a sixty forty seventy
Speaker 12: thirty split in terms of percentage seventy percent offense thirty
Speaker 12: percent defense. Make sure he's on the field on all
Speaker 12: third downs, all two minute situations. Somebody has an alpha receiver,
Speaker 12: put him on him. But what on offense? Look in Jacksonville,
Speaker 12: Trevor Lawrence is like, please put that guy in the
Speaker 12: field with me, him and Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 5: Come on, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: But you wouldn't You wouldn't take a wide receiver number two,
Speaker 3: and you wouldn't take a defensive back number two.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 12: I played with Eric Turner in Cleveland, who Bill Belichick
Speaker 12: drafted number two overall ninety one. And I would take
Speaker 12: any position on offense that could produce explosive plays and
Speaker 12: put points on the board and change the game at
Speaker 12: the drop of a hat. Why so I would take it.
Speaker 12: I would take Ashton gent number two. Look, the games
Speaker 12: the game is about. The game is about explosive plays
Speaker 12: and how quickly can you score, how quickly can you
Speaker 12: alter the game? That's what everybody wants. And I don't
Speaker 12: care where I get that from. Look, Aston, Jensy is
Speaker 12: one of one. Is one of one. Also, just like
Speaker 12: Travis's Aston, I believe if he went to a place
Speaker 12: that had a regular relatively let's just say, top twelve,
Speaker 12: top ten to twelve offensive line Aston genty I think
Speaker 12: could break Eric Dickerson's rookie Russian record. He can go
Speaker 12: over eighteen hundred yards. If you see him, how he's
Speaker 12: put together, he can handle the load. It's this whether
Speaker 12: or not you're gonna give him enough opportunity to do it.
Speaker 2: If he ran behind the Eagles offensively.
Speaker 12: He's easy over to easily, easily, easily, easily. He's not
Speaker 12: as fast as Saquan. But I'm telling you this, dude,
Speaker 12: when you see him, who would you rather have Saquon?
Speaker 12: Because he's a little bigger and faster, a little bit fast. Well,
Speaker 12: I mean Saquon's four to three, Ashton's probably like four
Speaker 12: to four to one.
Speaker 5: But they're both great people.
Speaker 2: See the difference in four to three and four to four.
Speaker 12: I don't know you asked me to make a choice, man,
Speaker 12: but I'm just saying no.
Speaker 2: You know what we caught number.
Speaker 12: You know what's wild is like when you know when
Speaker 12: they do it at the draft when they super imposed
Speaker 12: guys running forties. You see, like the difference between four
Speaker 12: four four four one and four three five is like
Speaker 12: a full stride.
Speaker 5: So that's the difference.
Speaker 12: Between the guy, you know, like like a wide receiver,
Speaker 12: for instance, being even with the defensive back versus a
Speaker 12: quarterback looking at him, going he's got a full half
Speaker 12: yard to a yard of separation, I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 12: to him, or now it looks like he's even I'm
Speaker 12: not gonna That's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's literally a step. Jerry Rice ran a four to
Speaker 2: six forty.
Speaker 12: You know what though on the field and there is
Speaker 12: there is football, no question and regular at track speed, right,
Speaker 12: there's no question. Just Jerry didn't get caught from behind.
Speaker 12: Never look Jerry. I played everything with Jerry was full speed.
Speaker 12: I have so many funny stories about Jerry Rice and
Speaker 12: when we played against him.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he is. You know what else was like that?
Speaker 5: If Michael Irvin didn't run four four four three.
Speaker 12: But you have very very very rarely saw anybody catching
Speaker 12: him from behind either. Now, what's interest, right, there's there's
Speaker 12: some speculation about like the wide receiver that the Packers draft,
Speaker 12: the number one overall, Matthew Golden. Golden ran high four
Speaker 12: to two on the on the field, you look at
Speaker 12: him and go, is he really that fast?
Speaker 5: Does he look that fat?
Speaker 12: But I'll tell you now, as the season went on
Speaker 12: down there in Texas, and he got more comfortable with
Speaker 12: the offense. He looked for to in the beginning of
Speaker 12: the season, he didn't so a lot of times. You know,
Speaker 12: how a guy plays on the field versus how he
Speaker 12: times on a track is a function of how comfortable
Speaker 12: are you with the offense that you're running, How confident
Speaker 12: do you feel.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of different things that go
Speaker 5: into that.
Speaker 12: But by the way, I love Matthew Golden, by the way,
Speaker 12: and Steve Sarkisian told me, Sark told me just yesterday.
Speaker 12: Sark told me just yesterday. Wherever he goes, he is
Speaker 12: a character guy, a culture builder. He'll do exactly what
Speaker 12: you want. And he's got so much runway ahead of him.
Speaker 12: And so for the packers that pay, I mean, it
Speaker 12: was this perfect. There was a perfect match between this
Speaker 12: organization and him.
Speaker 5: Perfect.
Speaker 2: It's good to see him. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Thanks for all your contributions always, man, whenever we called,
Speaker 3: you were available to help make us smarter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 3: He's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. We'll take a break.
Speaker 3: We're back after this.
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Speaker 3: I want to thank the bar for hosting us this week.
Speaker 3: I want to thank the audience for showing up every
Speaker 3: single day. A spirited group. Been a lot of fun here,
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. But thank you for hosting us.
Speaker 3: And this is your super Bowl and you certainly showed
Speaker 3: out great last night. The atmosphere and there was almost
Speaker 3: a WWE feel last night when Mark Murphy got up
Speaker 3: there and he said this for.
Speaker 13: The first time since two thousand.
Speaker 2: Saver, listen to this crowd. Oh baby, Matthew.
Speaker 9: Golden, why Texas.
Speaker 2: Hon he's here? Pretty good? Yeah, Marvin Man.
Speaker 7: Last night DP, that was like w W when the
Speaker 7: glass breaks. Oh, it's stone cold. He believe it died
Speaker 7: him mighty, he's wailing on the lock. I can't even
Speaker 7: believe it's stone cold.
Speaker 2: The crowd did go crazy.
Speaker 6: They were like, for the first time the two thousand
Speaker 6: ton saying us here, you can't say him.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: We went out the whole backroom, guys and some of
Speaker 8: us went out for haibachi before the draft, which is
Speaker 8: a classic.
Speaker 2: Moving green Beck. Of course, they're known for their hot
Speaker 2: beta Hibachi. Everyone knows that.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 8: The guy doing hibachi was singing almost the entire time,
Speaker 8: and he was like, really, Marve, he was really good, right,
Speaker 8: he was very good. But he and Marv started going
Speaker 8: back and forth on him pop songs from the nineties
Speaker 8: two thousands, and it was like, I wish we had
Speaker 8: a film of it.
Speaker 7: Man, it was like hibachi idol last night.
Speaker 2: I like he was on fire. What were you singing?
Speaker 2: He was singing?
Speaker 7: He started, you know, he started, you know you want
Speaker 7: steak and shrimp? Yes, it's seven o'clock on the dog
Speaker 7: in my drap.
Speaker 2: He goes, what cruise in the streets? Little duet? Okay?
Speaker 7: We piccher de Ray asked if he knew any haul
Speaker 7: of notes. He goes, I'm not that a little.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's Fritzy's wheel helm.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was disappointed.
Speaker 5: But he had a beautiful voice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But did you sing along with him?
Speaker 6: I did not.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to share the spotlight and he was
Speaker 4: doing his thing and some of the songs I didn't
Speaker 4: know the words too that he was singing, but he
Speaker 4: was by.
Speaker 3: The way seating and I went out to dinner last night.
Speaker 3: We went to a place called the Iron Duck and
Speaker 3: it was awesome. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, we had a nice time. We shared some laughs, yeah,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, just some bonding. Well he's my
Speaker 3: favorite dan out so he was last night.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We just had fun. We laughed at it. We finished
Speaker 2: each other's sentences.
Speaker 9: You know, we did this thing with the dessert where
Speaker 9: we wrapped our arms yeah, around each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anywhere it was nice. Anywhere it was nice. And
Speaker 2: then guys are a spaghetti thing Lady the tramp.
Speaker 3: No, no, but we Uh they brought out some Pappy
Speaker 3: van Winkle bourbon, and that's when the night started to change.
Speaker 2: Got the So what do you guys saying one morning?
Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: Well Seaton wasn't drinking, so he was driving the Maco van.
Speaker 2: You guys go aheads go nuts. I said, we're good.
Speaker 2: Ye doesn't need a driver. Yeah. I liked happy to
Speaker 2: be that.
Speaker 3: Uh, that's why I brought him out to dinner, so
Speaker 3: I had somebody who could drive me home.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: Jeff and Tampa, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today? O?
Speaker 13: The morning's repeat.
Speaker 11: I just want to bet you guys bringing the heat
Speaker 11: this Oh green Blay the fantastic pictures. You got to
Speaker 11: sit on your a game. But as a Bears fan,
Speaker 11: I was hoping you could maybe make me kiel a
Speaker 11: little better about pastor over time of war. I mean,
Speaker 11: you have so many great performances all year.
Speaker 3: I think I think, hey, Jeff, I think your cat
Speaker 3: wants to eat. Yeah, hey, why don't you feed your cat? Okay,
Speaker 3: poor little guys there, but thank you.
Speaker 9: You know, Jeff just reminded me of We got back
Speaker 9: to the hotel last night and there were some people
Speaker 9: who had been enjoying the first round of the draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, we'll say, and yeah.
Speaker 9: It's funny when you're walking with Dan, you sometimes and
Speaker 9: you could see people see you before you've seen that
Speaker 9: they've seen you, if.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 9: And then I see this dude doing that like sort of staggering,
Speaker 9: wobbling like an infant trying to stand for the first time,
Speaker 9: and he's going that company famous.
Speaker 2: Get him.
Speaker 5: You can't believe it. You get me right up, you
Speaker 5: can't be right up.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, he's trying to get his camera out
Speaker 9: to take a picture.
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, you want me to handle that for you?
Speaker 2: Because he was It was the other way it was yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: and that was Dylan the graphics guy.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 9: It's so awesome watching my guy try to stand like
Speaker 9: he's on a surfboard.
Speaker 2: Andrew in Washington, Hi Andrew, what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 14: Good morning, DP, and Happy meat Friday.
Speaker 11: Dan.
Speaker 14: I just got done feeding my cap so you won't
Speaker 14: hear them in the background. Hey, I wanted to see
Speaker 14: if Paulie wanted to extend our Draft day tie of
Speaker 14: the face bet to the second round. Our bet was
Speaker 14: I had more running back to take it. In the
Speaker 14: first round, he had more quarterbacks. We tied. There's no pie,
Speaker 14: But does he want to go into the second round
Speaker 14: and see if that bet can continue?
Speaker 2: Which side are you taking? H?
Speaker 14: I think more running backs. I'm gonna stick with my
Speaker 14: running backs. I had him you keep quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think you're going to be right.
Speaker 2: I can't take the bet.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thank you, Andrew. Let me see Tom
Speaker 3: in North Carolina.
Speaker 13: Hi, Tom, Hey, DP, I want to give you a
Speaker 13: shout out for that Jackson Dark pick and also Marv Mark.
Speaker 15: They almost went. I think the Giants were thinking that
Speaker 15: they that the Rams were going to pick it. So
Speaker 15: they jumped in front with that trade to use trade
Speaker 15: from Houston, and so they were thinking that the Rams
Speaker 15: we're going to take it. So I'll get it. Give
Speaker 15: him kudos for that. And also as a Giant fan.
Speaker 15: Now I'm feeling some of Fritzy's pain of having Russell
Speaker 15: Wilson there. So is that going to be is he
Speaker 15: is going to be a journeyman.
Speaker 13: Until he retires?
Speaker 2: Probably so?
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean it's still an upgrade. But you
Speaker 3: brought in Jamis Winston and then you've in jack.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: Just if you're going to draft a quarterback, then maybe
Speaker 3: not bring in Jameis Winston. And if you want to
Speaker 3: have Jackson Dart and he's going to be there for
Speaker 3: a year watching great, But and you went up to
Speaker 3: get him and maybe maybe they realized that somebody else
Speaker 3: was going to take Jackson dark So I sort of
Speaker 3: get that seat.
Speaker 2: Would you update the poll results from hour two? Sure?
Speaker 14: Will?
Speaker 3: I can smell the bronze by the way, yeah, that can.
Speaker 3: Long term, we got rhyme time with Fritzy coming up
Speaker 3: in the final hour of the program. I think, so
Speaker 3: it's rime time ish there. There's a couple of people
Speaker 3: that are interested in this, You want to wait until
Speaker 3: next hour, top the next hour to update.
Speaker 2: The poll results there.
Speaker 3: Sure, Okay, Todd's got rhyme time coming up, and uh,
Speaker 3: that'll keep that'll keep people here. Tom Pelsero and I
Speaker 3: Felt Network will join us as well. He's an insider
Speaker 3: and he'll join us inside here at the bar final
Speaker 3: hour on this meet Friday, right after this