WEBVTT - MARIO - Sock It To Me Cake 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.440 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.120 I'm your host, Coleen Wit and today we have a 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.280 very special guest. I was super excited the second the 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.920 second I heard your name. I was like, Yo, everybody 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:15.400 like whatever day he wants all crew, We're just making 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.599 it happen around your date. So today we have special 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.080 guests Mario in the building. 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:20.960 What's up? What's up? Mario? 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:23.560 You don't need a bio or an explanation. Like you 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.239 hear the name Mario, you already know who it is. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.600 Mario. Yes, I'm excited about this. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.120 So what are you making us eat today on Eating wildber. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.519 Look, usually this is something you would eat after your 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.320 a big meal, your dinner or whatever. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.479 But I wanted to do something a little different. I've 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:41.000 seen some of your shows, which I love your show 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.080 by the way, thank it's a very moving show, is 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.080 very raw. I love that. Today let me give you 0:00:46.159 --> 0:01:12.039 that sucker tuning up. You know what I'm saying. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.400 I've never even heard of socket to me, and it's 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:20.039 really spelled socket to me, Yeah crazy, and it's I 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.240 never heard of it. And then I was like the 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.520 second I saw socket to me, Cake, I said, huh 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.960 and I said, let me google this. Yeah, and it 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.600 does exist, guys, it is. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:31.759 It is Google. It's a real thing. 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.959 A lot of people don't know about it. In fact, 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.039 I was a kid when my grandmother used to make it. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.200 And the fondest memories I have of soccer to me, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.440 cake is fighting with my cousins over who's going to 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.919 get the bowl that had the last bit of battery. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.600 Okay, and these right here, yes. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.680 Like these, these could get you a black eye mouth 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.800 because the way she used to mix the battery and 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.120 get the whole it's just for so I don't know 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.200 if it's gonna turn like that today. But I don't 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.040 have her little special lists, she said. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.480 But she did. She tell me some seat why you. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.040 Know, just so you know a little side story, because 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.160 I am familiar with the blender tools. We all licked 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.120 them in our household too, especially don't let like chocolate 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.400 chip cookie though, don't forget it. But I saw on 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.440 these day actually have the new ones where it's like 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.320 not metal, it's like flat, so you can really get 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.840 a good lick, you can really, And we so this 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.000 right here, these actually used to be Remember the old 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.639 was that with just the lastick and it's rubber. 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:26.240 Yeah, and we used to go in there and we 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:26.959 used to go crazy. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.680 So anyway, soccer tomic cake is like and she used 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.520 to make upside down pineapple cake, but that's a more popular, right, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:34.960 But this is like, was my favorite dessert that she 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:36.800 would make. So I figured I would share here today 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.400 since the show is so raw and open. 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.440 And then, yeah, so what are the ingredients for the cake? 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:44.680 Ingredients? 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.399 We all know if we got the cake batter here, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.840 we have eggs oil, sugar sold cream. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:54.800 That's kind of like, why are you putting sour cream? 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.440 And I was like, what I said, the same thing. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.760 I'm like, it's crazy chemistry, some water, and over here 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:04.280 we have some cinnamons and pecans, some it's figgas butter, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:05.920 and then we're going to. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:10.560 Be a milkyke mixed. So side note, you guys don't know. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.160 You guys weren't here obviously, but every time Mario was 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.519 looking at the cinnamon, he was like questioning it a 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:19.800 little bit, and I was trying to get I was 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:21.160 trying to get him to lick it. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.799 I was like, cinnamon mixed up with and it's crazy 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.440 because this is the brow sugar. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.320 Obviously, is bigger grains. I had to smell it. 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:38.320 Yeah, all right, all right, so let's get to making. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.040 So I'm gonna be your helper. So if you want, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.120 we can either walk you through your wars, because I 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.440 see you have two different bowls. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:46.920 So you're going to do that bowl over there, okay, 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.440 and I'm gonna do this, then you're going to do. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.120 It's not really any specific order. You just want to make. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.680 The The most important thing is once you get the better, 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.280 everything in the better is that you beat it up. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:58.560 You know what I'm saying. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.920 As long as you can okay, as long as you 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:05.279 can like well, as long as it's like really smooth. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.920 You shouldn't see too many bubbles and like you know 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.080 what I'm saying. So I'm really bad at cracking eggs. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.120 Ain't gonna lie to you. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:12.720 I cracked. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.840 But if you want you want to do that, I'm 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.320 gonna trying to try to hurry. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.360 Bad at cracking an egg. I'm gonna tell you a 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.240 secret if you If you mess up, I'll tell you 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:22.960 what I think the secret is to crack in an egg. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.719 Do you want to tell you before so they won't 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:25.400 waste no eggs? 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:26.880 No, I want to see you doing all right? 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:32.560 Cool, that's okay, it's perfect. A wait, do you have 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.520 to put it in here? All right, I'm resting. 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.320 Awesome that you seem like a g Okay, let's see 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:41.000 your next crack. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.720 Let's see if it was just a good one. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.159 Okay, you're good, no egg shell so far. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.200 Probably because I'm not hesitating. I'm just going for it. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.560 Yo, you're you're okay, you may be a professional. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.479 Wait what's that right there? 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:00.640 That's a baby on pine? 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.799 Where is that that little black piece? 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:09.120 It's fine, it's just it's just we'll survive. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:13.359 Let's go for it, all right. Cool that you did it. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:17.640 Fantastic job cracking eggs. Just for you guys listening, My 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.200 secrets of cracking an egg is exactly how he did it. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.440 The harder you crack it, the better it cracks. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.880 It was telepathy for sure, because I usually don't go 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:29.200 like that just made me crazy. 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.000 Okay, So we got the eggs over the oil. Now, okay, 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.800 all right, this is this. 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:39.040 Is already like we already put the right the measurements 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.279 and we ain't just guessing, and then we got the 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:42.920 white sugar. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.800 But it's crazy because like most people who can cook that. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.440 I know. They don't even do measurements. They go off 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.600 of in state. That's how you go. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.599 But I think that's most black people though. Right, Okay, 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:59.320 we got no you may there's a rubber one on 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.480 the other side. So now we got the sour cream. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:03.760 Now I've never seen. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.280 I used to love looking at this what we used 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:06.839 to crazy? 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.120 Now I have never seen sour cream going a cake. 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:13.320 So when I heard the ingredients, I t. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.400 Of what the sour cream will be used for? Is 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.920 it compted consistency? 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.800 Is exporter textra makes it like all moist and nice? Okay, okay, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.720 trust me. I did research because I was like, socker 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.720 to me. Then I called some friends, like sour cream 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.640 and cake, you should they didn't make a mistake, and 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.640 she's like, no, girl, it makes it all so nice. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.760 Okay. Being a chef probably really makes you understand chemistry better. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.320 I feel like I'm going to go on this side now. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.080 Yeah it sure, wait, I gotta put this water in 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.240 here for oh yeah water? 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:45.679 All right, So there's all the ingredients for the sucking 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.120 to me cake. Now before Mario starts blending and us 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.960 having to send you to uh, it's a commercial because 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:59.240 no listener is gonna want to hear that blend. So 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.000 now I'm gonna to do so Soccer to me, has 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.000 it is interesting because what I had noticed you can 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.280 explain this, but it has like pecans. 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.080 And cinnamon, got pecan cinnamon inside. So what you get 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:12.360 with it? 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:18.160 You get this sweet, doughey yet still crunchy texture when 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:19.040 you write into it. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:19.280 Right. 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.280 I personally like to eat mine and drink it with 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:22.400 almond milk, which is why. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.000 Yeah, we're both we're both drinking almond milk. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.040 But it's warm and it's it's amazing. You want to 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.120 eat it warm. You can eat it cold, but you 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.440 definitely want to eat it warm. Yes, just put the Yeah, put. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.760 The cinnamon right, So cinnamon in the cake mix. We 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.920 have some brown sugar in the cake mix. We have 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.920 pecans in the cake and then we got. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.120 To mix it. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.760 Right, yet do we really put this to sugar? Okay, 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:49.440 we're gonna do it. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:50.200 I'm following you. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.920 That's again, that's the helps the Okay, we mix it. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.080 And so what happens is we're gonna mix this first. Okay, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.320 we're gonna put that inside. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:04.160 Mario, Well, just finished blending the cake mix. It's officially done, 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.080 and now I made the topic. Well if this isn't 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.000 the top, and this is like the side of the. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.480 Cake in between the cake. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.640 I can't remember exactly how that part works because I 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:14.600 was always waiting. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.520 For the batter, the batter booth. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:22.120 Yes, let's get our little pants. I think I did 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.800 have butter, but I don't have the We'll just do 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:30.480 a kind of ghetto spread it over. I melted it 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.200 on the oven by accident, so we're gonna spread it. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.680 We got our little pants. I'm so excited to to 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.160 try the cake. But I'm also so excited to hear 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.640 Mario being broke at some point and Mario being the 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:46.600 superstar that we know. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.440 All right, cool, let me do this real quick because 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.600 it was a little scalpy in there. Okay, that's cool. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:54.600 I'm gonna. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.800 We got it, all right, So here we go. We 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.640 pour the battering. Can we test it? Can we? Are 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:03.360 we allowed to lick the little sticks? 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.480 This is yours like an ice cream. It's like your 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:05.920 little cake. 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.480 Col Yes, here we go, chairs here all right, let's see. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.400 See this is why we used to go crazy. You say, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.160 you get it, you get it. 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:14.520 I have had a siblings. Okay, this is what we 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.280 do siblings. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.840 I got four sisters and three brothers. But that's on 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.800 my father's side. But I did grow up with most 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.559 of my ass and uncles and all my little cousins. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.560 It was like eighteen of us living in the house. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.520 I ate this. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:29.720 This isn't deserved by itself. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.360 Crazy the better it is fantastic. All right, So are 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:35.920 you getting in it? 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:36.360 I like it? 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.160 I like I like how you go bring Okay, so 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.719 pour your some. I guess you're pouring some of it 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.040 into like half of the batter. 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.080 Yeah, you gotta fill it up halfway. Oh wow, there 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:48.400 you go. 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.360 We make that ship it and we left this battery 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.679 here so that we can just we can see the 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.440 part of the experience. Like, yes, when I was a kid, 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.439 like we would literally argue over who was going to 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.760 get the batter, right, yeah, because it's like. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.400 Well while we while we tried this batter. I want 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.840 to know a little bit more about you. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.200 What do you what do you want to know? Where 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:10.640 would you? Like? 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.360 I want the story to start all with the batter, 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.920 So what was going on at the time, like when 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.000 you were fighting over cake batter? Like who were you 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.559 living with I want to know the whole backstory. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.880 Well, we moved around quite a few times. When I 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:29.000 was younger. We grew up in Emison Village. What state 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.360 is that, I said, West Baltimore. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:34.920 Okay, my mother was pregnant with me. She lived closer 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.600 to the projects, and then she moved around a lot. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.440 And then when I was about I would say, ages 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:43.160 like four to five, I was living with my grandmother. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.520 There was like eighteen of us living in a water 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.679 household between the eighties and like six and. 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:49.240 Ten years old. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:50.720 Was your mom a single mom? 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.320 Yeah? She was. She was. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.480 I saw my dad like once when I was younger, 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.000 and then as I guess time went on, it just 0:10:59.040 --> 0:10:59.880 got more dissing than this. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.600 But we're cloling down, But damn, mama was a singlema. 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.520 But I was like, we had one of those families 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:08.240 where everybody was raised by everybody, you know, so and so, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.360 whoever was at the house was who's watching the kids. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.160 But we had a lot of freedom. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.840 As kids because our parents were all like this is 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.000 we're talking about the eighties and nineties. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:18.280 Right, So our parents. 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.600 Were all like living their lives and kind of just 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.960 in the streets. Really, it was just it wasn't It 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.800 wasn't something that we knew to be abnormal. Yeah, to 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.040 be over your friend's house and your parents not know 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.920 where you are, or to be out until ten eleven 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.240 and no one's calling to see where you are. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.800 So was your family primarily all in that city? 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.679 Yeah? Okay, okay, yes. 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.880 Because I know, like for me, like I have family 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.560 in you know, Chicago, Kelly, I'm from New York, but 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.160 like you know, different, So we didn't grow up like 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.400 a lot of people in one house. But you're saying 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.120 like eighteen people were in a house. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.800 And it's like it, but it was. It was like 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:56.480 a revolving door. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.199 Because again, I mean, I guess the closest thing I 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.319 could say is like you remember that scene to Minnie 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.560 Society when came first wake up in the house and 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:08.360 the party going on, the music's play. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:12.080 That's like what I was, like, Saint God out it 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.680 was normal? Wow, I feel me So Yeah. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.520 So just to fashion, you started in the industry at 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.839 what age. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.080 I was, Well, I would say I started at over 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.679 You know, my first concert was in my liberal you 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.960 know what I'm saying, with my grandmother and my aunts 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:30.760 and my uncles and I was a kid that was 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.760 always singing everybody's birthday parties, right, So my mother would 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.120 make once she saw at four years old that I 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.880 had a talent or passion for music, she kept music 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.199 around me. She brought me this mic that tuned into 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.800 the radio when I was around four or five Christmas, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.200 and I literally would wake up every morning and miss 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.439 Max Socks and me singing and tuning into the radio, 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:54.280 like trying to mimic everything. That's how it became I 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.240 think of good singing because I would try to mimic 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.880 everything I heard, from boys, some men, to you know Joe, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.840 to the older music. My grandmother used to play Whitney Houston, 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.480 anything that had melody to it. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:06.600 I would try to sing. 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.160 So your family in totality, like did they embrace it? 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.160 And were you the only singer in the family or 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.160 were there like other symbls like well, I could try 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.480 and compete. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.320 I guess my mother was right. She played a piano 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:23.240 and she also just had a great ear form. She 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.440 also sang. On my father's side, he sang, but at 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.560 the time I didn't know that, and I think it 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.839 was just my family just had a lot of soul 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.640 and I went to church and was singing church every 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.880 Sunday from the ages of eight until I moved away 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.760 from Baltimore. So I had a lot of soul around me. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.320 I had a lot of soulful people. I mean, my 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.800 grandmother cooked a lot. Like it was just very much. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:51.440 So like throughout the week, you know, family members like 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.439 coming over, like everybody want to hear me sing. 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.079 If it was a birthday, I'm singing at the birthday party. Okay. 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.880 So it became a thing where I got my confidence 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.160 because of my family, and my support came from there. 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:04.400 My first talent show was. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.120 Elementary school and we were in a group and we 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.400 sung I want to say, it was standard ray or 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.880 I Make Love to You by Boys Cemen. And after 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.800 that performance was a day I knew that I wanted 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:20.480 to do music. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.560 Was that because of the crowd's reaction or what that was? That? 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.040 Right? It was the crowd's reaction. 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:27.960 But as a kid, like you're going to school with 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.360 kids that like don't like you, you know what a kid, 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:31.920 you go through a lot all of these things where 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.760 it's like you have a weird you know, relationships with 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:35.560 each other socially. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.000 And then I do that and it's like everybody likes you. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.080 Were you kind of bullied before, but it was just 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.560 it was just like everyone. 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.120 I was never really bullied. I was. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:49.880 I got in a lot of fights, but I wasn't 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.240 bullied as a kid. I was just like I mean, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:53.960 I grew up in a household where we was always 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:54.680 fighting with each other. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:56.040 Clearly. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.200 Yeah, my older cousins like we would like come on, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.240 like you know what I'm saying, Like they was beating 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.320 us up, and we was always so it was outside. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:03.440 I was like, all right, we're ready. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.480 But you do the talent show and you see a 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:07.760 shift in your classmates right away? Or do you just 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:08.880 see a shift at the show. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:13.440 I see a shift as everybody teachers, classmates, the whole school, Okay, Right. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.000 As a kid, I was so I was very exposed 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.640 to so much, so I knew how to read human 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.440 behavior at a young age. So I saw the shift. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.640 And as a kid, you're thinking about a better life, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.720 like or like you're thinking about how. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:27.240 To be the coolest in the school. 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.800 So it's like it automatically shot me from being this 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.400 little fat, chubby kid who could. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.040 Say I was a fat kid. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:33.800 I would never think that. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:40.440 This battle I'll say that, celebrate them, I would Shelby 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:46.200 kid like she can pull it up in kid, I 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.680 didn't know that, you know what I'm saying. So like 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.960 as a fam you blow the roof off, go crazy, Okay. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.960 And then my grandmother was right there in the first 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.680 A lot of it was seeing her, her excitement and 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.840 happiness for me, you know what I'm saying, Like having 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.720 heard there and my mom named there, like they were 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.120 like my biggest supporters as a kid, and like helping 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.960 me instore that confidence. Okay, Okay, So by the time 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.640 I got to talent shows. I'm gonna tell you about 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.320 this more later when we get to like the age 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.520 of like eleven, But like by the time I got there, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:15.560 I had. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.200 A lot a lot of confidence in myself that I 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:17.640 didn't had. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.520 Before by the time because because of all the talented. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.320 Party and the talent the family event like those, Because 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.000 singing in front of your family is hard. Yeah, Like 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.600 singing in front of people who you love and know 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.840 is like sometimes more difficult than singing in front of strangers. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.560 Yeah, when I was a kid, I was fun. Fact, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.880 nobody's gonna really know this except for my family. But 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.880 my family we had like a family band, someone like 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.480 the Jackson's. My mom was like worse than Joe Jackson, 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.000 except first she didn't get the Michael Jackson results right. Anyways, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:56.560 one of the things I remember is the damn where 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:57.320 was I going with this? 0:16:59.280 --> 0:16:59.480 Oh? 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.000 One of the things I realized as a childhood performer 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.439 was that it was always harder for me to perform 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.720 in front of one person. But if I had like 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.720 a hundred people or two hundred people, five hundred people, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.159 a thousand killed it. 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:11.520 Wow. 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.040 But like if you put one person in front of me, 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.280 couldn't do it. And so so I think it's interesting 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.040 that you saying that in front of your family. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.479 You were cool in front of my family. Now I 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.720 was saying in front of my family at one point 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.240 it was like nerve wrecking to like like grow knowing 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.000 that I had to get right, but singing that on 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.600 the spot at birthday parties and doing that type. So 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:37.320 now come on in here and when they're playing and 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.119 doing pillow fighting, little outside having a rock fight, and 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.080 then you get called in to sing a heavy birth 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.440 and you know, so it's like those types of things 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:47.600 help to build my coffee. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.159 Okay, I see what you're saying, Okay, so you go 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.960 from being on the spot now your groom. You're slowly 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.040 morphing into the superstar because you start. The reason why 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.480 I keep bringing this up is because you were so 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.959 young when you started, and I want to see like 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:10.240 how it happened, Like what exactly happened, and how that translate. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:15.520 Milestones in my younger life that led to being seen 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.080 by the right people. The molestone as what we're talking 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.359 about before the elementary school talent show. That talent show 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.040 was a milestone because the first time that it went 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.399 from everybody in my family knowing this kid has talent, 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:32.960 to my peers and the school I went to every day, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.440 people now knowing like, oh, you know, just this is 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:36.400 not just a talent show. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.840 We got dressed. I was in a group. We got 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:39.840 dressed for guys. 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:44.800 Matter of fact, I was in the group with Monique Sudden. 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.600 Monique from Baltimore, the comedian Wow put us because we 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.119 used to live down the street. She put us in 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.720 a group and we rehearsed in her basement everything and. 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.199 Was Monique as big as she was at the at 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:58.560 the time. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.199 Wow, She wasn't unique yet, sure she was on her 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.600 like she And so that was a milestone because it 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.600 was now like, oh, oh, we gotta put this, we 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.320 gotta get help, we gotta you know what I'm saying. 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:12.840 So then after that. 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:14.800 I think I wanna said it was like elementary school, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:15.880 old year, elementary school. 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.640 I was like like five to ten, right, I don't 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.800 know or whatever. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:24.320 Anyway that age and from that point on it became 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.320 more of like a duty in the job because now 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.000 it's like, okay, practicing, well, I got out of the 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:31.840 group I'm talking about. Like with my mom, it was like, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.960 this is it. This is the thing that's going to 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:38.199 keep my baby from turning into our other you know, 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.680 her cousins and jail and streets and six or seven. 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:43.960 Your mom in that decision worse. 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.800 She told me, Okay, she said she knew she had 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.320 to do that because she saw she knew growing up 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.800 in Bottomore. It it's because of my family history. It 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.560 was only nobody really did any I was. I'm the 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:58.879 first to like really leave the city and do something 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:01.680 amazing with this life. 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:01.640 Life. 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:21.440 Life life changes, like you know generationally, you know. So 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.720 my mother was actually a she had a scholarship playing 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.680 tennis in Kaytonsville, and she had an accident. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:34.320 And so it was at the time, and so she 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.840 just wanted to see me do great things. And I 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:37.600 think that music. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:40.560 When she saw that, it was like, okay, so what 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.920 the that is? You know, practicing talent shows? Oh you're 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.840 only ten, but you're. 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.840 You're doing a talent show with sixteen and seventeen year olds. 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.880 I don't care you're gonna do it. I don't want 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:50.200 to do it. 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.000 Like the other time, it smells like cake, smells like 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:57.760 so your mom like, and she she also like provided 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:00.000 a level of discipline and structure to your career. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.280 Absolutely, it's forehead, all. 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.359 Right, But did you do you do it the chicken 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.639 and egg? Did your mom come to you and be like, Okay, 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.040 you're talented and we're gonna pour all this or were 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.239 you like, Mom, I really think I can do this? 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:14.320 And then she poured it into you. 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.840 Such a great question. And soon as you asked me that, 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.439 it took me to the sound way. She took me 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:19.240 to a barbershop. 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.200 And I can't remember how old it was, but as 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.520 I got older, she started taking me to the barbershop. 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:25.959 She used to cut my head and then she started 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:27.200 and she. 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.360 Had me sing for the guys in a barbershop, right, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.639 and all of them gave me ten dollars each. So 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:34.679 I must have walked out of there with almost two 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:37.520 hundred dollars okay, right, And so that's the first time 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.760 I noticed that I can make money doing it, okay. 0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:41.840 And I told I remember telling her. I said, my like, 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:44.480 this is I can make money singing. 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:45.920 She's like, yeah you can. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.280 She's like, who's got to work hard, you know, and 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.720 believe in yourself. And so after that she started putting 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.440 me in talent shows and I did my first big 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.080 talent show that got me some recognition was a talent 0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:04.320 show copa state hop and State College in Baltimore. And 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.640 I didn't win the show, but Drew Hill was there. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:08.480 It was label Execs there. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.320 It was a big thing. It used to happen like 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:11.560 once every three four months. 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:13.560 Did you know that those type of level of people 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:14.200 are going to be there? 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:14.879 Okay? 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:19.159 So you just came to oh mom, Okay, I didn't know. 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.399 And I have another question to go back to the 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:25.760 barbershop story. Do you think your mom knew that they 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:27.359 were going to give you the money or do you 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:28.359 think it was a pleasant surprise? 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.800 For both definitely a pleasant surprise, but she was just 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.800 bragging like almost us, saying he can he can go 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.440 right okay. And then she was like saying, so she's 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.240 always prominent the spot. And I used to hate it 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.200 because I'm just like I like to prepare my mind 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.240 for it. She used to make me do it because 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.520 I think she just she was proud, right, Yeah, I 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.119 would do that with my child, you know. 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.400 And and I also thought. 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.240 I think she just loved music so much as well, 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.160 so her passion for seeing me do what she loves 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:58.680 also was just immediate all that much more important to her. 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:01.719 And so now she just maybe and then they were like, hey, 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.640 little man, look like happened. 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:09.720 Just happened now before we go into like the tipping point, 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:11.600 I would like to say that the pre tipping point, 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:13.880 so just kind of circle back on you and your mom. 0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:17.000 So it seems like and I could be off. Was 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.040 this like the music kind of also like this bonding 0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.119 thing that you guys had or was it like it 0:23:22.920 --> 0:23:25.439 was it became like the little glue between you or 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.479 do you guys? Did you guys have like an overall 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.840 well balanced relationship and this was just the toping. 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:34.000 Well I would say that our relationship got tighter as 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:37.240 I got older because I started to understand the importance 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:41.080 of it more as a kid. She was there, but 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:46.000 she also wasn't there in a lot of ways because 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.440 she was suffering from her with her or challenges of life. 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.360 And so music was definitely. 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.320 Something I never doubted between It was one thousand per 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.399 cent of bar we had. She played piano sometimes and 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.480 I would literally just I coulpays sing To this day, 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.400 it's something I love to do with producers and writer. 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.080 It's just because I used to do it with my mother. 0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.280 So it's like a lot of songs start like that. 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.080 A lot of moments, a lot of great chemistry start 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.000 like that between creators. Because that's why I feel comfortable 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:15.040 breaking the ice. I might not even know how to 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:16.640 talk to somebody, we might never get it, but since 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.320 the music start, you know, and I think she is 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.159 still that in me of like helping me understand the 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.399 communication and music. How powerful it was in terms of 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:29.040 creating space to understand each other. 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.120 And there was definitely a glue. It was one percent 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:32.440 of glue. 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.480 She'd always play amazing music and she was one of 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.240 those people that she took everything when it came to 0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:45.800 music and picking the right songs at the right time. 0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.760 She just took it really seriously. She was always playing 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.840 music around out. She always had a car. Fully see, 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.320 when CDs came out, she had those booklets, you know, 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:58.840 those book with the CD just unlimited music, just music, 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.280 and I would take cart would steal it, honestly out 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.600 of her car and I would go put it in 0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:05.600 my carrier machine. And the one I had, you could 0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.040 put the CD in on one side and the cassetteide 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.000 and courge yourself sack. 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.199 So I would do that. Wou practice and pant practice. 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.720 Yeah, yeah, so so she So she definitely played a 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.199 huge role in your music career. So going back to 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.600 this big performance at this college. So what happens you perform, 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:25.800 you get off stage, someone slides your card. 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:30.280 Let's before we even get there, Okay, all right, putting 0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.240 you in this talent show. This conversation we happened putting 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:37.280 in this talent show. You know at the time, I 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.240 want to say, she was trying to go back to 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.080 college at the time, so she would we would leave 0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.960 school and then go audition for stuff. She would always 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:46.359 try to get me in these things and shows and plays, 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.119 and we go to this audition and we meet this 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.040 guy who's running the talent show and I was the 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:53.840 youngest person on the show besides his niece. 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.200 How old were you would you say at this time? 0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.080 It had to be like ten eleven. 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:04.040 Yeah, maybe too. And we get there and it's a 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.879 long line of people, right, so we're walking past. Little 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.840 do I know this is the audition line. It's the 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.000 audition line. But everybody I know. I don't see any kids. 0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:15.600 I see groups. 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.320 I see guys out there dancing and they popping and stuff. 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.879 I see girls out there. I see all types of stuff. 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.240 And so we get inside and we're just waiting inside. 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:26.959 So we sat inside and he came in. 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:27.919 I went in. 0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.399 No, I sat inside and there was somebody in there singing, 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:36.119 going crazy. She was singing like Whitney Houston or some 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:40.640 crazy incredible I heard it through the door. 0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:41.440 Oh my gosh. 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.280 I'm sitting there the time listen listening to her sing, 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:48.119 and I'm like, I'm like, ma, I'm looking at her. 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.080 She's like, come on, you going to here. I'm like, 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.119 I don't. I don't want to do it. Started crying. 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.480 I got scared. She kneeled down. My mother was very 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:59.719 she was a capracr so she was very aggressive. And 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.520 it's like it wasn't even if she told her no, 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.040 she don't hear no. She don't. I don't think it's 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:07.359 possible for her to hear no. It was just impossible. 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.080 So I like her already, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.560 So like she was just one of those that that 0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.640 type of energy, and I was very scared of her. 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:22.200 Please okay, please don't make me go in I don't 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:22.720 know this. 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.280 Man, Like, don't make me go ahead and sing if 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:24.800 it is bad. 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.280 And so I went in there and I sang and 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:30.359 but yeah he was. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.280 He thought it was great whatever, And I got to 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.199 tell a show. So that's how that starts. Now. 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.680 Just see in the room when you were singing, like, okay, 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.480 did you feel extra pressure like you better? 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:40.520 Was it was? I was. 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:42.720 I left my body at that point. I wouldn't have 0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.000 been able to do what I was just leaving. I 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.639 gave in, I gave up. I said, look, but I realized, 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:50.320 like looking back now, even as I'm telling a story, 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.400 I realized that everything that she was doing. 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.359 Was preparing me for these moments. 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:57.760 You know, So it came. It got to the point 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.520 where once I start singing, I. 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.360 Think I was madic because I know that space. 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.119 And I think anybody can relate to like having a 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.639 passion for something, no matter what's going on, when you 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.800 tap into that energy and you're in that vortex and 0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.920 you're in that moment present, all your fears, everything goes 0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:16.760 out the window and it's just you and God and 0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:19.680 you know, And that's what that was. And I think 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.359 that was like one of the first moments where I 0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:26.000 realized the power and what she was doing, and yeah, 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:26.680 it was powerful. 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:28.480 So I did that. And then I think the Talent 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.040 show was a week later or something. 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.800 We got got dressed, I put on I had a 0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.520 jeans suit set on with some fake a fake silver chain. 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.720 She cut my hair at that time. I actually still 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.160 got pictures somewhere. I gotta find it. 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.640 I'm gonna say I got and we go to the 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.960 Talent show. I do this show. 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:54.000 I kill it, you know, And then her his niece 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.920 ended up winning, but I think he gave it to 0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.760 it for the but it was a moment that I'll 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:00.480 just never forget. 0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:01.280 I was backstage. 0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.080 I was mad, I was frustrated at a loss and 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.200 then like Drew Hill came in there, Cisco came in, 0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.360 there was like solo man, Jazz came in there, is 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:10.720 it was it was fire and it was like. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.920 Yeah and they yeah, they was there and so it 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:17.360 was fire. 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:18.040 That was fire. 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.560 So then what happens after that? 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:27.080 So after that, my mother meets a agent slash manager 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.000 at the time, and they connect. It's like, yeah, I 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:31.800 think your son has talent, but this is stuff that 0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.520 she's telling me, and yeah. They just stayed connected over 0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.479 the years and years later he reached out to her 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:39.240 to put me in a group. 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:45.320 Years later, Wow, two years ago and two or three 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:45.840 years when. 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.360 You were doing solo at this time, I was just solo. 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:49.280 I was a solo artist. 0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.120 I was singing in church. Mind you do all of this, 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.720 I'm singing in church. I'm like all of that, right, 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:54.280 And so. 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.560 I tried a group. Things that don't work out, and 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:00.160 then I ended up moving. 0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.800 In New Jersey when I was like thirteen fourteen that 0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:04.800 freshman year. 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.360 And high school and these are like, these cities aren't 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:13.400 like I would say, I would for lack of better word, 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:17.040 these aren't These are rough cities. Baltimore, but Jersey. 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.920 Also Jersey, where I lived, that wasn't it was it. 0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.200 It was some of the kids that went to the 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.560 school I went to came from rough areas, so that's whay. 0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.080 A lot of crazy stuff was going on like when 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.960 I got there. But like the Bregen County wasn't like 0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:31.520 a super rough place, but it was. 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:33.520 It was. 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.520 It was spots, you feel me, like certain gangs or 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.360 certain culs. But it was nothing like I've never I've 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:43.120 never in my life been anywhere is as crazy as Baltimore. 0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.160 Se And do you still go back to used to 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:45.920 go back time. 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.760 And time from time time, not a lot, but from 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:48.240 time to time. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.000 So you and your mom just solo dolo to Jersey. 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.600 Well, I went, She said me, by myself. What do 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:55.560 you mean by yourself? 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.600 Just wait, I here's a plane ticket, by I mean, 0:30:58.600 --> 0:30:59.240 here's let me. 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:00.920 I'm skipping something. I'm not. 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.240 Let me not do that because I'm let me go back. 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.640 All right, cool, fuck it, we're gonna go. 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.120 Now, we're gonna get by the way, yeah, you already 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.720 know we're gonna go over time. I saw, I saw 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:12.040 the mark. 0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:13.320 We're going on get some cake. 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:19.040 So during this time, my family was falling a part 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.040 a lot, you know a lot of things where people 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.920 are getting older and things were changing. 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:24.160 It was a lot going on. 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:29.040 And I kind of got misplaced in that because when 0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:31.480 my grandmother passed when I was twelve years old, that 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.720 took a lot out of me. That that changed my life, 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.920 That changed my perspective of everything I thought love was 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:37.880 life was. 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.880 My grandmother worked three jobs to take care of the family. 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.000 My great grandmother lived with us, her mother, And so 0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.160 I watched my grandmother work tirelessly. 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:54.560 And take care of the. 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:59.440 Family while going through her own issues and sugar I 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.800 be like, I watched her kind of like deteriorate in 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.080 front of me because of stress and just life and 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.000 bad eating habits and you know, all of the things 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:11.680 that a lot of our grandmothers and uncle's didn't care 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.280 her worry about the time. Like if I knew what 0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.320 I knew now about health and like the importance of 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:19.800 the frequency of your body and taking care of yourself 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.600 and the right fools out, would have been able to 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.200 save my grandmother for sure. 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.160 And I think about that so much, and I'm like. 0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:31.080 Would you say she passed young? The word grandma her 0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.680 late faifty ye does young? 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.280 And so that took a toll on my family. My 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.800 family kind of fell apart after that. You know, even 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.720 though we had our issues that every it was a 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.640 lot of toxic, crazy stuff going on. 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:49.080 We're still family. But she was like the bat. She 0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.239 was themself. You know. 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.000 She was the one that everybody would call when they 0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.200 had issues, if they needed money, if they needed whatever, 0:32:55.360 --> 0:33:02.000 like you know, So when that happened, it it changed. 0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:04.719 It made me numb as a kid, I was. 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:06.920 I was. She was. She was like my mom, Like 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.240 she was like really my mom. 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.760 To assay, when you say it made you numb, so 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.560 that means that you were like avoiding your feelings. 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:16.240 It made me that time to life. 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.920 It made me numb to like expectations, It made me 0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.840 numb to anything, like there was no more light in 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.360 my life. I felt like she was my life, you 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.360 know what I mean? Like I was, I seen so 0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.680 many crazy things. I've seen people overdose in our house. 0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.560 I've seen police was raising our house every other weekend, 0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:35.880 like stee feeling like. 0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.720 I grew up like that, and it was like. 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.120 She was the She just made life seeing like everything 0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:44.640 was gonna be okay. 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:45.520 It was like. 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.760 That that her passing made you numb. But then you 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.479 just name like other things that were like some some 0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.080 most people like myself would be like that was super 0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.440 level trauma, regular regular. 0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.680 All of that was regular, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.760 all of that to me was was a regularized seek. 0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.520 Since I can remember, I was seeing things stuff like that. 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:06.000 You feel me. 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.680 My my uncle got killed when I was like four 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.680 or five years old. My mother's brother, like he was like, 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.840 you know, somebody in our family that everybody looked up to. 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.840 He got shot twice. You know, I remember being. 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:22.799 A kid, and so you were like you were knew 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.040 to death, you weren't new to overdose, you weren't new 0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:29.240 to crime. But then your grandma passes and that because 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:30.759 to me, to. 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.640 Me, she was like I'd never seen my grandmother cry. 0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.480 I never except way in church, like you know when 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.600 she was praising the Lord, like I never seen her. 0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.480 I never seen her fail or give up or or 0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.960 she never wanted anybody to see her in pain. So 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:52.759 when she started getting sick and I started seeing that 0:34:52.880 --> 0:34:57.600 part of her manifest I was just like, wait, what 0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:58.400 is life like? 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.080 What is this? What's really going on? 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.280 You know what I'm saying, so anyway, where she passed, 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.400 fell fell apart, and it was kind of like I 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:07.280 was a free agent. 0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.279 It was like I was living with friends. I was 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:11.080 here's your mom. 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.200 What was going on with your mom? 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.560 Though at the time, I can't tell you exactly what 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.239 was going on where because I don't know, but I 0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:16.759 know that she. 0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:19.920 Was so you're her relationship. 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:21.759 She would like bob in and out your life, but 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.640 your grandma was your staple. That's that's what I'm getting. 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.640 One thousand percent. Okay, Okay, I'm not good at telling 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:27.960 this story. 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.040 No, No, you're doing a great job. I'm just because 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.920 it's so crazy, Like I love hearing your story, like, yeah, 0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:34.319 this is. 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.240 And it's true. I'm not gonna lie. It's my truth. 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.240 Is the reason why I am the way I am today, 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.239 why i'm you know, still here even in this game, 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.319 and and just. 0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.160 Like focusing on living up no matter how hard things get. 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.560 Like so, but you know you're in my opinion, like 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.560 the entertainment business has got to be one of the 0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.840 hardest industries, especially in I'm going to say especially in 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:03.520 your position, because when you hit the I would say 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:07.279 you break the class ceiling right in an industry. That's like, 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.640 you know, constantly like okay, being pitched. Okay, what's the new, 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:13.239 what's the new, what's the new, what's the news. 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:18.240 I feel like it's helping me. Everything in life is alchemy. Alchemy, Okay, yeah. 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.279 I mean when you're dealing with when you're dealing with 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.040 something that has to do with giving people an expression 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.839 or an experience to have, it's all energy and it's 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:28.319 all ugly. 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:29.719 And that's how I've looked at it. 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.319 I'll save for the past six or seven years of 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.879 my life, like, Okay, how do I balance out all 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.239 these Are we burning that? 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:38.560 No? You're not burning it? 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:39.120 I don't think so. 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.600 Should we check though? We should check it real quick. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:43.280 Really, it's only been like twenty minutes. 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:44.800 Is it all right? Cool? Fat? 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.480 It smells like it just smells good. But you know 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:52.160 what it smells. Okay, you know that's all. Pause for 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:56.120 a second and just check it out. Mario was like, yo, 0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:57.520 I smell it burning and I was like. 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.480 No, it's not the first time. He was like, no, 0:36:59.600 --> 0:36:59.960 it's good. 0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:03.320 It's definitely it definitely burns. Because this is what happens 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.080 when Coleen tries to be a backwards chef. So col 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.640 we did burn it, but before we get coked, we're 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.000 gonna try it. 0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:11.719 Let's try it. 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.280 I'm gonna try this, all right. 0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.160 I'm gonna should we should we? 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:19.319 Are you gonna try it like that? 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.000 It's gonna it's gonna be hot. 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:25.879 There's more burn. Sorry, guys, I'm gonna try and I'm 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:28.200 going to try and put it on the plate, just 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.160 so you guys could see the inside of it. Is 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:31.520 it good? 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:36.680 Is it right? Is it okay? That's okay? 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.200 Is it because I messed with it? 0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.280 Okay? I want to see the inside. Guys. 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:49.040 Look it looks like legit. Look at the inside, so. 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:51.000 You look cool if you look at it from next. 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.720 So look, we have the cinnamon in there. The cake 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.239 probably mad because I burnt his cake. I'm sorry I 0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:57.919 burnt your cake. 0:37:58.280 --> 0:37:59.640 I wish I would justin. 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:01.000 He was like I smelled. 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.759 I was like I knew it was going there. I'm like, yeah, 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.520 it's going there. So I was in the story. 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.560 So okay, So I'm gonna try this cake. Mario's already 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:11.080 digging in. 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:16.319 Crazy during even matter. Oh my gosh, I. 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.960 Don't see why they use this RB. It's super moist. 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:24.880 Is yours as good as mine. Hold up, let me 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:29.680 show you how gangster I am. Oh my god, this 0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:30.319 creak is good. 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.040 All right, you gotta try with the almond milk dough. 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.480 So get a bite and then like right after they 0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:36.160 drink some other it's gonna put anything. 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.960 Wait, I wanted to put some of the batter on it, 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:42.920 right because I'm gangster, all right, I know what. 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:43.480 Is batter like. 0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.160 But look, it's gonna be like an icing okay here, yeah, 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.680 really that's what I was saying. If we put the 0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.439 batter on top, that it's gonna take away the breath. 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:54.359 Oh is that what you're saying. 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:58.520 I was saying that when he came, he's trying, then 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.400 it would have all right, let's hold on, honest the 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.520 thing and it wasn't Prasey with the batter already. 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.560 He ain't eve gotta say that. Don't even say that, Ireny. 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.759 Tell me that I had wow mm hmm on the milk, 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:12.640 my milk, cheers. 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:34.040 Chers eat it. Where I broke broken, we ain't broke. 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:39.040 But what an amazing combo, you know what. I definitely 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.399 say the sweetness and almond milk, so the cake turned 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:45.799 out absolutely delicious. This took us like fifteen minutes to 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.880 like prep and make, and if you don't have me 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.759 in your kitchen, you probably won't burn your cake. 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.000 It's okay, but we made it work. 0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.440 We put the batter as icing, totally hooked it. 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.000 Up in and it's still it's still like the tastes. 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:02.319 You still get what the you know what I mean? 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.040 So tom cake, Yeah, it's the cinnamon and the soft missing. 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.680 There's a certain custard that goes over the top. I 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.879 think that's what that's to use for mm hmm. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.080 It's supposed to actually, it's actually supposed to have that 0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.320 are on the top, but it's supposed to be a 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.680 different type of like an icing, like an icing. 0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.759 I don't see. My grandma was a wizard in the kitchen. Love. 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:28.240 I crazy appreciate your grandma's contribution. So your life, because 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.480 now I can have Soccer to Me cake for the first. 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.160 Time, and you could and you could cook it more 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.799 often and get better at you know what I'm saying, 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.799 all right, and. 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.399 You can say that made Soccer to Me cake one 0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.560 time on the show. I gotta drink this. 0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.960 Milk, doesn't it add like the extra? 0:40:46.080 --> 0:40:48.360 Like I'm surprised the cake isn't sweeter. 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:51.560 Honestly, we didn't put a lot of sugar in there, 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:54.720 but I thought those cake mixes come with sugar already. 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.160 I don't know kind of cake missile us because we 0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:58.920 got the person to go there first. I don't know, 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.680 but it tastes good like the icent like this makes 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.239 it feel like it's sweeten than what it is. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:05.000 So I love it. 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:06.640 I love it, and batter is going to be my 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:07.400 new icing. 0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.520 Moving forward without the brac cake. 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:18.239 So your mom sends you to New Jersey after your 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:22.640 grandma passes, solo dolo. Now this is where I'm like, 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:24.640 where are you going? 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:26.600 Right? 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:34.000 I mean, familiar with with who she sent me were 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:39.160 at the time, and I'm young. But when I tell you, like, 0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:42.200 I don't think you understand, Like I literally was numb 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.520 to all of it because the reason why I went 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.160 is because I was staying in a group home with 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.520 my best friend because his mom basically ran a group offs. 0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:52.520 I was just staying there because we could do whatever 0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.399 we were. You feel me, And it was just like 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.400 I was just I wasn't going to school, I was skipping, 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.560 so I got in trouble and see what happened. But 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:04.239 when the cops were looking for my mom. They like 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.160 I wasn't with my parents, and so well, we finally 0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:08.759 caught up where it was like either I had to 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:11.799 live with my aunt or and so I ended up moving. 0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:13.799 I live with my aunt for a little bit, but 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:17.080 I just kept I already got a taste of what 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.359 being outside was like, and so I just liked it, right. 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:25.560 I liked my freedom at the time, and there was 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.280 no one there to leave me down the right path 0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.840 or up the right path, and so from when I 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:38.280 got in trouble, but I was like when she didn't 0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.600 want to take on that responsibility and not be able 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.040 to take care of me, And so that's why that's 0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.360 the real reason I ended up moving. 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.279 Okay, so you got to taste for the outside. You 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.080 were having all this freedom. Now were you saying freedom 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.759 and the sense of because like no curfews. Are you 0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:56.480 saying that whatever. 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:58.680 I wanted to do it as a as a twelve 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:02.120 year old kid, Well, that's really young to have that freedom. 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.880 No, No, wait fourteen, because I was in high school. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.120 Okay, but you were still doing music, but you were 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:08.800 running the streets. 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:10.600 I wasn't doing music at the time. I was I 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.839 mean I was still singing him, so I was still 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.160 I still love. Yeah, I wasn't actively. I hadn't been 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:17.319 in one studio in my life. 0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:20.520 Yeah, but you were. You weren't participating in talent shows anymore. 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.759 Because I was over. In my eyes, that was over. 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.880 Okay, So you moved to Jersey and you're in a 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.000 group home that you're group. 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.279 The group of host thing happened in Baltimore, right, And 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:37.360 then when I moved to Jersey, that was like we 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.799 pretty much getting adopted really because I never went back home. 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:42.400 It was supposed to be for a weekend, but I 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.160 never went back to Baltima, okay, right, and so that's 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:47.840 when it turned into put. 0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.960 Him in a group. The group don't work out. 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.759 Then when I when I was fourteen, I ended up 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:56.560 getting signed to J Records, Clive Davis's label. 0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:58.600 Oh that's how that happened. 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:03.799 Okay, so you get signed. I think I didn't tell 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:06.040 you before that I taped to Neo and Neo had 0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.840 told me how he had. Now was that the record 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.520 that Neo that wasn't even nice? 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.840 It was like I was fifteen at this time. Okay, 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:18.440 this was like two thousand and two, two thousand and one, right, okay, 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:23.560 I fly to La worked with Warren Campbell. 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.719 He had this song called Just a Friend that he 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.799 had recorded on Usher already. They felt like the record 0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.600 was too young for Usher. They went with another record, 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.120 and I ended up cutting Just a Friend. Shout out 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:39.680 to Warren Campbell and Harold Lily and all my family 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.239 guys that I loved that helped me understand how to 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:43.400 tell stories. 0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:44.960 Musically. 0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.000 We did come on Break my Hair Just a Friend, Like, 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.200 those are records that I recorded as my first project. Wow, 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.480 And they were the records that introduced me to the 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:56.959 world and I was fifteen years old. 0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.640 Oh wow, Yeah, so all of that happened. Money Run. 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.040 These peop really knew my story and where I came from. Yeah. 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.880 So it's like I had to break the ice with 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:06.600 them through sessions and stories. 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:08.120 And I Bring my Hair came. 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.840 About like just missing being home getting my hair braided 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.399 by my little girlfriend I had, Like that was what. 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:14.200 That's all I was about. 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:19.560 So you get pretty much catapulted overnight. Yeah, and what's 0:45:19.600 --> 0:45:23.640 going on in your head? Mama made it. What's going on? 0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.279 Are you seeing money or where you seeing money? Like 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:30.320 real money at the time, because I know I was 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:30.680 a kid. 0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.839 I was. There was a basically like a trust set 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:35.760 up for me, but I wasn't. 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.040 Really you were like touching the money. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.680 Yeah, I wasn't. But you were working absolutely, and we 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.680 were working. I was on promoto, I was touring the world. 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.839 And where's your mom doing all this? She was still 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:49.759 living in Baltimore, and. 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.880 She knows what's going on. She knows that you're traveling 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:52.520 and doing all this. 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.080 I think my year and my family they knew I 0:45:56.120 --> 0:45:58.440 was doing my thing, but nobody in my family was involved. 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:03.920 Nobody was even trying to reach out at the time. 0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:10.160 There were a few instances where family members try to 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:11.200 reach out, but it was done. 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.600 It wasn't rockets my mind. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:16.719 Mike, can you give me an example. 0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:18.319 I'm about to do. I'm not gonna I'm gonna give. 0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:20.480 I'm just trying to, like figet it I wanted to 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:20.879 give you. 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.840 So that was an essens where one of my cousins 0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:29.719 came up to Jersey with my mom and it turned 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.040 into like some real like yo, let us in or 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:33.960 else type. 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.279 Energy you feel me. They didn't understand the music you 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.920 feel me, and. 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.120 That that ended up being whatever I don't know if 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:48.120 something like change had happened, but that disappeared, and I 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.240 kind of was just like go with the riot because 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.000 I didn't know as a kid what was going on. 0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.799 I didn't understand how things were set up. 0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.879 I was then you probably were trying to like mess 0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:01.080 it up either, right, I would imagine I was. I 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.520 was an autopilot still from your grandma, just in life. 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.839 Yeah, like imagine just like moving around so much and 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:13.480 not understanding where you're going and not understanding the purpose 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:18.400 behind everything. But I will say this, my grandmother on 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:25.800 her deathbed Northwest Hospital, she told me, she said. 0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.279 This journey's gonna get really hard for you. 0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.160 But she said your deskline for greatness in her own words, 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.399 but she said, your destline for greatness. Never give up. 0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:36.319 I'm always with you, never give up. 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.560 And to this day, I. 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.680 Literally feel her with me everywhere, like it's a thing 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.560 where it's like no, I've gone through so many teams, 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.320 so many labels, so many and my own independent. 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:50.640 Label now like I do all my own business. 0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:54.160 Now, I understand the business very well, good like life 0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:54.520 is good. 0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:56.640 But getting to this. 0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:02.800 Point, every point in my life through the the belly 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.560 of the devil and the belly of the beast. I 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.440 always felt her walking with me, So I was I 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.399 never was a fearful kid, like I was never even 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:17.359 when I was moving around and I moved it I 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:19.200 was alone, but I always felt that with me, So 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:22.640 I never was like scared of anything. 0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:23.560 Never scared. 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.880 But the fact that you're acknowledging like walking through the 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.400 belly of the devil, it's gonna make me wonder. 0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:29.359 The belly of the beast. 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:32.839 Sorry, sorry, yeah, the belly of the beast. And now 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.640 I have to ask, like, can you share an experience 0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:38.279 of what a belly of the beast walking through that is? Like, 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.640 can you give me an exact, actual example of like 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:41.680 the hardest time. 0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:47.560 I would say this, when you are a person that 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:52.839 goes against the grain and you think for yourself and 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:57.440 you don't allow the energies around you to consume you 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:02.600 and your soul, then you have to face certain challenges. 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.120 I mean, it's hard to say exactly what because it's 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:10.160 so many different, but it's really like when things are 0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:15.879 trying to condense your light through pulling access from you, 0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:23.600 or taking away your voice, blackballing you, or like putting 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.560 you in a position where it's so much harder for 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:27.919 you to get to the next step or you push 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.520 through anyway. Yeah, but you still also. 0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:35.200 Keep your composure, your integrity, keep your your your life. 0:49:35.680 --> 0:49:38.319 You know, there were times where it got really dark 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:43.160 for me, you know, after having huge success in stepping 0:49:43.200 --> 0:49:45.680 away from music because of what I was going through personally, 0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:50.920 you know, and when I moved back to Boston at 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:55.240 eighteen years old, you know, when I was able to 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.319 have like be an adult and move around on my own. 0:49:57.520 --> 0:50:03.120 I left Jersey and went back and this left and 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.239 how how long were you in Baltimore for like four years? 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:09.359 And this is when you're in a hiatus or the 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:10.200 peace of your career. 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.600 Let Me Love You came out in two thousands when 0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.319 I was like eighteen years old, So it was like 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.600 right after that type of energy. But at the time, 0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:20.600 it was so much going on. There's so many people 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:23.160 grabbing and pulling it. It was like and I was 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.279 having issues with the deal I was. It was like 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.360 a lot, and I just left and went back to Baltimore. 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:29.719 And so when I went back to Baltimore, there's a 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.680 whole other level of life to face because now you're 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.800 you're not in my mind, I'm still here, yeah, but 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:40.000 everybody else's mind I'm Mario. So I had to face 0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:43.839 a lot of my own demons. I got to really 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:48.880 see who I was, meaning all the things that I escaped, 0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:50.880 but that was still there, lingering. 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.879 When I moved back home. It was looking at like this, Can. 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.640 You give me an actual example, like Mario. 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:01.080 Like like where I'm from, But there's a lot of hope. 0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.720 It's taken out of life for a lot of people. 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.200 You know, people wake up hopeless every day. You know 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.200 what I'm saying, It's fair even if you live in 0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:09.879 a nice part of. 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.120 Baltimore, or like I had a playhouse downtown, like. 0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:17.400 You five minutes away from things on every block. You 0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.440 know what I'm saying, You five minutes away from getting 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:23.480 ribbed or shot or whatever. And I just never know. 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:25.560 Because I was from there, I never looked at it 0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.239 like that, like I just was used to that. But 0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:29.239 I was me living in those spaces, and so I 0:51:29.280 --> 0:51:32.520 had a lot of energy coming from me from every 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:33.880 different angle. 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.239 While I would go and do a show, fans this. 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:39.520 And this and that, I'm going back to Baltimore and 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:44.120 so I'm living I saw myself kind of like at 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.600 eighteen years old, getting into things that Mario shouldn't be 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:50.640 getting into, you know what I'm saying, but nobody knows, 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.880 like what just like dealing with the wrong people, you 0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:58.840 know what I'm saying, and just like really allow of 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:03.480 certain energies to be around me that that I was 0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:05.319 comfortable with, but that wasn't healthy for me. And so 0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:08.240 I started my energie shows. My passion for music started 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.239 doing the like you know, even though I was still 0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:13.360 putting out music, I wasn't as like it was like 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.000 autopilot for me. It was like I'm doing this because 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:17.560 of the job, not because I love it. 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.279 Yeah, I was gonna say, I was curious to see 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.520 if you ended up being like, for lack of a 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.400 better word, like two personalities because you have this superstardom 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.120 and then you have Mario that's coming from Baltimore that's 0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:33.080 dealing with like say family issues or you know, personal 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.080 definitely trying to deal with that. 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:37.399 I would say one hundred percent, one hundred percent right. 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:40.200 And are you writing music at the time, like throughout 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:42.840 your car or you just singing or not just singing, 0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.920 but like are you because it's to me, it sounds 0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:47.759 like when you say you went numb, Like, are is 0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:49.920 there an outlet for you to express your feelings? 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:53.440 Because I was in a major label system and it 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.200 was more just about fighting that next hit. 0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:59.399 I didn't have a voice really, and so it was like. 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:01.560 Any record it I was writing, whatever I was doing 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:03.960 that was making me feel it was always like, ah, 0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.600 that's not it okay, and then oh, go work with 0:53:06.680 --> 0:53:07.040 this writer. 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.640 It's just like it made me start hating the industry. 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.640 I kind of like, I was like, it's actually kind 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:15.400 of cool to hear you say that, only because you 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:19.360 can actually see like your environment still peeking through. Even 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:20.920 though like even. 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.400 Just like I was like Bottimore, just like I was 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:27.040 like this like R and B pop kid to everybody, 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:29.839 but my real life it was like. 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.239 Like you're like streets. 0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.640 It was like I was seeing so much crazy shit 0:53:33.800 --> 0:53:35.640 and it's like but I never really talked about it. 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.360 I just knew I should because when I first got signed, 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.360 it's like I got signed by like like the biggest 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:45.480 execs to ever live, and so like I learned through 0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:49.239 artist development how to be perfect, yeah, how to say 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.200 the right shit interviews, how to be I never really 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.520 talked about my real life, No one never really knew 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:56.200 my real life, you know what I'm saying. 0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:58.799 So I know as a fan, and you literally look 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.680 like the perfect cookie cutter, like you know, like you 0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.640 came from this little Cosby household and this. 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.960 And the and it's crazy because it's like the soul 0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.840 in my voice told a different story. Yeah, but my 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.840 image was like and it was like when I started 0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.120 to want to be more memes, like, it was always 0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:21.120 like no, no, And so I just stopped. 0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:22.720 I just stopped. 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.680 At a certain point, I just I stopped. I just 0:54:25.680 --> 0:54:28.400 wanted to live life and be away from everything. And 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:31.279 so that's when I'm I moved to Bottomore and that 0:54:31.360 --> 0:54:35.200 probably the stopping part probably happened between like the ages 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:39.360 like twenty three and twenty seven. So I moved to 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:44.200 LA and I started a whole other spiritual journey. I 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.200 went through something that in Baltimore. I went to it 0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.080 through a situation with my mom and it was it 0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:51.240 came out news but it was obviously it was fixed 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:52.439 and all of that stuff, like. 0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:56.440 And after that, I was like, I'm not letting, I'm not. 0:54:56.600 --> 0:54:59.600 It was like I would come home and like at 0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.600 the time she had a spot and spot on the 0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:04.200 spot and I would go over. 0:55:04.040 --> 0:55:06.040 There sometimes and then be like random niggas and I 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:09.640 was like she being in the bathroom doing what she do, 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:10.600 Like you know what I'm saying. 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.560 It got to the point where I started becoming her 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:15.960 protector and I was put my life in danger. 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:17.160 And it's a lot. 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:18.560 It was just it was a lot of things. It 0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.040 was the people I was saying, it was a lot, 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.919 and I just saw I won't say the devil because 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:27.640 I don't believe in that. I believe in causing effect, 0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:30.000 and I believe in the proximity and circumstances. But these 0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:34.560 circumstances were causing the frequencies that I was attracting to 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.839 get closer and closer and closer to the point where 0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:41.080 I found myself in situations that I couldn't get out 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:42.319 of and I was like, I got to get out 0:55:42.320 --> 0:55:43.279 of here or else I'm not going. 0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:47.799 To make it. I can't. I had to leave Baltimore. Yeah, 0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.280 But it was everything. Everything. 0:55:50.440 --> 0:55:54.319 It was my comfort zone because it's what I knew 0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.799 is where I felt comfortable, and. 0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:58.680 It was kind of like a place where you could 0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:00.160 kind of be yourself right without that. 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.000 But it was also it also hurt me in my 0:56:06.080 --> 0:56:09.360 career at that time, because I wasn't moving around with 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:11.960 other artists and my peers and doing certain days because. 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:15.160 I just I just didn't. I felt I just felt 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:17.680 that felt like it wasn't real. It wasn't for me. 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:19.759 So how are you surviving financially? 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:20.080 Though? 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:21.600 Are you like living off? 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:23.839 The money was good? 0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:24.520 Okay? 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:27.240 Like I was doing shows, I was still you feel 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:29.319 me like the money was good. 0:56:29.400 --> 0:56:32.040 So you decide to up and leave too, and you 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:36.480 choose of all places, you choose l A. Yeah, okay, 0:56:36.520 --> 0:56:37.799 I have one in LA when I came. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:42.960 Yeah, l A. The weather. No, it's not even that, 0:56:43.000 --> 0:56:46.680 It's like, it's about what you built for. I really 0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:47.160 believe that. 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:51.200 It's like if you if you understand no better, nowhere 0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.200 in the world is safe from your r dements. You 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:56.239 can go to Bali or go somewhere. You still got 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.120 to face your ship, you can't. 0:56:58.560 --> 0:56:58.759 You know. 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:02.280 And I think like places you go which just highlight 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:05.759 things even more, yeah, and hwh like and make you 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.719 become more of a alchemist in your own life. And 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.600 for me, because I had practiced so much in Baltimore, 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.440 moving to LA wasn't enoughing I'm moving to LA at 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:16.960 twenty four, and I'm. 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.800 Like, oh no, bro, I'm good. I don't want no coke. 0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:21.480 Oh no, I don't do that type of show. I 0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:24.680 see this shit, giring got everything. I already seen this shit. 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:26.440 Yeah yeah, that fact. I might be able to make 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.400 some money off here, Like, but I ain't go ahead, 0:57:28.480 --> 0:57:29.120 like you feel me? 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.800 But I didn't go that, Yeah, like I ain't you 0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:32.160 feel me? 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.160 So so now you're in LA. You're you're in LA. 0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:38.120 Are you signed to a label? You're doing independent? What 0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:38.640 are you doing? 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.960 I'm still sign? No, I'm still signed at this time. 0:57:42.040 --> 0:57:42.760 I'm still sign. 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.960 But I just wasn't actively going to the studio and 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.520 I just was living my life doing whatever I wanted. 0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:52.080 I was on another jerny. I was on I was 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:54.560 in a whole other space, you understand. Like I'm seeing 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:56.320 a different side of life than anybody news. 0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:58.880 I'm like all. 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:01.080 The people that in my life. My I got friends 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:03.720 coming in and out of jail. I'm feeling exited. I'm 0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.240 putting like it's like it's a lot going on, like 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.840 other family rbers around me like it was. But I'm 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:12.480 also seeing like the music side of things. So it's 0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:15.000 like I'm in the middle somewhere like who am I? 0:58:15.760 --> 0:58:16.840 Yeah? Who are you? 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.560 Well, I think because you're on two different extremes, you 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.960 have two completely different extremes of life kind of pulling 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:25.840 at you right exactly so. But the one that looks 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:27.640 good is telling you to kind of be fake. 0:58:27.880 --> 0:58:30.840 And then the one, that one that is beneficial for 0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:35.320 my finances and for maybe my opportunities in life, is 0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:40.000 telling me You're gonna have to you know, you have 0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:43.240 to to not be fakers there, but but be but 0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.720 sacrifice your your truth. 0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:47.680 Yeah, yeah, I would say that, And I'm gonna be 0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:48.240 honest with you. 0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:51.760 Sometimes your fucking truth is not pretty, yeah, And sometimes 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:53.320 you gotta face your truth in. 0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:56.360 Order to get to your destiny and your higher self. 0:58:56.760 --> 0:58:58.720 And that's what I had. And so when I when 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.760 I'm facing my truth, was also me not staying in 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:05.440 a place where I felt like, though I'm comfortable hearing 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:09.400 my family artists, it's taken from me. It's going to 0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:12.360 destroy me, it's going to kill me. Yeah, I had 0:59:12.400 --> 0:59:16.120 to leave. And so when I made that decision to leave, 0:59:16.320 --> 0:59:19.600 it was final. It was no like hesitance. It was 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:22.680 like I'm out on this date. I'm leaving and So 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:28.360 when I left, moved to La and you know, I 0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:30.200 had a new team and management and all that stuff, 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:32.120 but I was still finding myself. I was still fighting 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:33.960 min and I did like I did a couple of 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:40.880 movies and then I started, I start, I became a mystic. 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:43.960 So I started practicing, Like what's a mystic? 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:45.160 So during that time. 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:47.800 Of between fourteen and eighteen, I practiced Islam because it's 0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.560 the family move was Muslim. So I practiced Islam for 0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:54.040 four years, four and a half years, sooni, And after 0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:56.920 that I started studying just different religions. I grew up 0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:01.440 in a very Christian household, you know, Pentecostal was like, 1:00:01.520 --> 1:00:03.400 you know, all of that soul. 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:05.880 But because I started seeing. 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:12.400 So much, I wanted to understand why people chose trauma 1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:17.240 and why people chose to torture themselves, you know, because 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.000 that's what I saw growing up, Like why why? 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.320 And what is the other side look like? What does 1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:24.040 death look like? What is death? What is the devil? 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:27.280 What is what is evil? What's like? What's what is 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:27.720 this ship? 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:28.040 Yeah? 1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:31.160 Yeah, And so I started diving in. 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:34.320 I would go to this I would go to this 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:37.720 library called the melly Phall Philosophical Research Center. 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:39.680 And he had all types of book Melly P. Hall 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:40.040 it was. 1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:43.400 He was a he was amazing, but he was also 1:00:43.440 --> 1:00:46.320 a really good show and someone who shared a lot 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:48.720 of knowledge before he died on all types of things 1:00:48.720 --> 1:00:49.120 in life. 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:51.800 And you know, I'm not one of those people who 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:52.520 are big. 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:56.000 Onto cult, but I do study the knowledge and study 1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.960 things to understand where it had come from. A lot 1:00:58.080 --> 1:01:01.720 of our a lot of these calls come from ancient 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:07.440 Egypt and all these other places that were way before 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:10.600 the relations that were created to control humanity or created right. 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:13.720 So in understanding that, I became a mystic right like 1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:18.920 the likes of Prince and so we study everything to 1:01:19.000 --> 1:01:21.000 understand that it's all one right. 1:01:21.800 --> 1:01:24.440 So once I did that, it just. 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:26.800 Gave me a certain level of liberation and freedom that 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.880 I never felt in my life because I had something 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:34.920 that I understood why humans were imperfect, and I understood 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:39.160 why the journey is yours to take and why your 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:43.400 decisions and the proximity to your three sixty is so 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:47.360 important to what's going to happen in your life immediately 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:50.880 based upon also the decisions you make. And so when 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:55.680 I started practicing these things and then also taking detoxes 1:01:55.720 --> 1:02:01.760 and like really practicing alchemy within myself. It immediately changed 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:05.120 my mindset and I was able to start being happier, right, 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:07.840 And I used to be very miserable and depressed and 1:02:09.040 --> 1:02:10.480 I didn't understand a lot of things. 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:13.800 Can you just give me a definition of alchemy? I'm sorry, 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:15.880 said it like three times online. 1:02:16.400 --> 1:02:17.600 In my opinion, I don't. 1:02:18.320 --> 1:02:31.120 In my opinion, alchemy is a practice of putting different resources. 1:02:32.000 --> 1:02:34.520 You can use alchemy in anything. Everything is alchomy. Food 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:37.880 is alchemy because you're taking different minerals and i'm sorry, 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:41.880 different ingredients and putting together to create something cause and effect. 1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:49.560 So alchemy is causing effect of movement and physics and 1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:51.080 all these different things into one. 1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:52.800 Right, and then we are alchemy. Right. 1:02:53.160 --> 1:02:55.640 The relationships is alchemy, Like how does the alchemy of 1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:58.600 your relationship work? You can also change it at any moment, 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:02.360 So it is your will of intention that creates the 1:03:02.440 --> 1:03:08.360 actual outcome, right, based upon a course of decisions and actions, search, 1:03:08.400 --> 1:03:09.040 so forth, and so on. 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:13.160 I'm just curious, like whenever I see someone I guess 1:03:13.200 --> 1:03:16.120 seek truth, I have to wonder, like there had to 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.919 have been some some for lack of better word tipping point. 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:21.440 That's not the words a lot of points that I 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:25.000 there was something that had you literally take a deep 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:28.120 dive though there had to been something that it was 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:29.280 just like a culmination, like. 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:30.800 A combination of everything. 1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:34.600 And I mean all of this happened before my mom 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.600 even passed, Like I became an alcoeme a mystic way 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:41.680 before my mom passed. But like I would say, seeing 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:44.640 her on her deathbed and having an overdose, you know 1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:47.040 what I'm saying. When I was seventeen years old, I 1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:49.240 was in Europe performance away and I came back to 1:03:49.280 --> 1:03:50.920 this and they asked me. 1:03:50.880 --> 1:03:52.440 To do I want to pull the plug? And I 1:03:52.440 --> 1:03:55.600 told her and she was in a vestable for two months. Wow. 1:03:56.040 --> 1:03:59.000 Seeing my grandmother pass away, seeing one of my friends 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:01.240 get killed, seeing other friends get life in jail for 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:04.720 killing people, like just so many things that being in 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:06.920 the music industry and all of the ups and downs 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:09.960 of it, and like understanding all of that, Like all 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:12.880 of these things made me dive deeper and to also 1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:14.400 get to know different types of people. 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:15.880 When I moved to LA, I met a lot of. 1:04:15.800 --> 1:04:18.840 Different people, like people in the industry. I knew people 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:20.840 with the spiritual communities. I knew people that were healers, 1:04:20.880 --> 1:04:23.920 I knew people that work. There's a melting pot out here, 1:04:23.960 --> 1:04:25.480 you know, how it is, right, And I think this 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:28.560 is a space because of where it lays. You know, 1:04:28.640 --> 1:04:32.040 it's also a testing ground. It's a space where both 1:04:32.120 --> 1:04:37.360 light and dark meets and you will find what you 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:41.600 need to work on and work through, you know, here 1:04:41.840 --> 1:04:43.440 in a lot of ways, because there's a lot of 1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:47.400 open It's a lot of open minds here, and sometimes 1:04:47.440 --> 1:04:50.720 open minds don't have limits, and so you can literally. 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:53.280 Dive into whatever frequency you want to dive into. 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:58.520 So now with your career, the way, where where can 1:04:58.560 --> 1:05:00.360 we Where are you taking us? 1:05:00.640 --> 1:05:05.800 Real man? That's that's where are you taking us? Jude? 1:05:06.160 --> 1:05:08.880 I have a feeling that if you're doing press and 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.560 you're doing you're definitely taking us something. 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:14.439 Right now, I'm really just trying to tap people into 1:05:14.480 --> 1:05:17.919 my frequency, like like you know, I don't like doing 1:05:17.960 --> 1:05:25.040 interviews within just anybody, you know, Yeah, you know, But 1:05:25.240 --> 1:05:27.640 I would say in my in my personal I'll say 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:32.680 that my life is like multi dimensional, most of all 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:35.720 lives are. But I'm saying speaking for myself, and so 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:38.240 now where I'm taking myself. 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:39.640 Is I've been focusing more on business. 1:05:39.640 --> 1:05:44.520 I've been focusing more on, uh, being more social in 1:05:44.560 --> 1:05:47.440 my business relationships and like pulling things together and just 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:51.280 being a boss and also being a creative but mixing 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:54.400 those two together and finding the stride like like you know, 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:57.760 long distance runners, like finding a marathon where you're like 1:05:57.840 --> 1:06:01.160 in a stride and things are going in. 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.320 The direction of your will intentions. 1:06:03.400 --> 1:06:05.160 So that's what I've been focusing on in that part 1:06:05.160 --> 1:06:07.720 of my life, bringing the right you know, people together, 1:06:08.440 --> 1:06:10.680 reaching out, working with more of my peers, and just 1:06:10.720 --> 1:06:11.880 like opening up more in that way. 1:06:11.960 --> 1:06:13.040 Because for a minute, I. 1:06:12.960 --> 1:06:15.480 Was just like I'm just doing everything in all hours 1:06:15.560 --> 1:06:18.800 is but it's like nah, Like it's a blessing to 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:20.520 be able to work with other artists and do other things. 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:25.080 So like in that space where I feel like God 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:33.080 and Source wants me to go is really international affairs 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:35.440 that have to do with and working on a lot 1:06:35.440 --> 1:06:39.520 of great then with the advancement of our community and 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:45.520 investment of us, but are really high levels. And I'm 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:49.040 a very creative person. I'm a generator, so I like 1:06:49.120 --> 1:06:53.280 to generate ideas and actually see them manifests. So we 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:57.400 talk about museums, we talk about hotels, we talk about schools, 1:06:57.440 --> 1:07:00.440 we talk about and all these different things. 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:03.320 You know that I'm working with a great group of. 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:08.200 People in Ghana and the Middle East, and you know, 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:10.439 all these things are gonna help where I'm from. 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:12.440 You know, as you know, we live in America. 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:16.360 So this system here is is it's kind of stuck 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:24.440 because we've already it could get better. However, there's just 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:29.040 there's just there's so many systems that would have to 1:07:29.040 --> 1:07:33.160 be reset. We don't know exactly how it's want to 1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:34.560 be reset, but I do think it is going to 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:36.040 be reset. But I just want to be in front 1:07:36.040 --> 1:07:38.160 of it. And so it's like on a spiritual level, 1:07:38.160 --> 1:07:40.560 I've been told to put certain things in place. So 1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:44.360 that's where I'm going and it'll show. I'm gonna share 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:46.720 a lot about what I'm doing. But musically, that's a 1:07:46.760 --> 1:07:49.080 passion of mine. I'll always do music, But my real 1:07:49.120 --> 1:08:04.320 passion is, i would say biospiritual studies and spirit psychology. 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:08.400 I'm not a passions. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:09.600 I'm super interested. 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.560 Yeah, So I'm dimin as a spaces to find out 1:08:12.560 --> 1:08:15.040 how to kind of merge those into like music and 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.080 other experiences. That's where I'm and that I mean, I 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:20.640 think that a lot of people are reading more or 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:22.920 listen to podcasts more and like just really trying to 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:24.240 understand their purpose more. 1:08:24.760 --> 1:08:27.960 And by me living my previous and. 1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:30.320 Also share my story more, I feel like it's gonna 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:32.840 do what it needs to do if guy's gonna use me. 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:38.160 However, I feel like, yeah, I kind of used to 1:08:38.240 --> 1:08:41.720 have the when I for me, I feel like I 1:08:41.840 --> 1:08:43.760 kind of am a little different when it comes to 1:08:43.840 --> 1:08:48.360 like I'm an entrepreneur by by nature, but I used 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:50.200 to always be the type that like to make other 1:08:50.240 --> 1:08:52.759 field people feel comfortable. I put my light under the table, 1:08:53.439 --> 1:08:55.960 and I remember even in scripture they say, like, you know, 1:08:56.000 --> 1:08:57.720 put your light on top of the table. By you 1:08:57.800 --> 1:09:01.240 doing that, you let other people and to be more 1:09:01.280 --> 1:09:02.719 comfortable to let their life shine. 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:09.439 What do you feel like light is? My darkness is not? 1:09:09.760 --> 1:09:12.080 No, that was real slick, That was like no. 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:14.880 Where light is like light is because it's like okay, 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:17.479 well you say push everything. 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:20.000 I feel like sometimes I feel like light is a 1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:22.760 combination of everything because. 1:09:23.880 --> 1:09:27.240 It's like in order for you to be the light, 1:09:28.400 --> 1:09:30.400 you also have to be honest. You have to be 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:32.519 true to yourself. Right, So. 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:36.559 You don't always choose your experiences in life. You don't 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:38.800 choose Sometimes they say, oh, you choose your prayers. But 1:09:39.120 --> 1:09:41.960 even with that being said, you still have to go 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:45.920 through the actual maze of healing and of going through 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:49.280 the drama and then healing whatever it is. So that darkness, 1:09:49.479 --> 1:09:51.600 as you would call it, is really just contrast. It 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:55.120 might pain, yeah, it's contrast, right, And so all of 1:09:55.160 --> 1:09:57.879 it kind of like, I'm not saying. 1:09:57.680 --> 1:09:59.200 That there'sn't a difference between light and dark. 1:09:59.240 --> 1:10:01.480 I'm just saying that it's kind of it's a combination 1:10:01.600 --> 1:10:04.759 of both. And when you show up in your truth 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:09.880 without judgment, it then feels so much like love, because 1:10:10.040 --> 1:10:12.320 non judgment towards yourself is love, right, And then that 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:16.160 in itself feels like light because it feels like welcoming. 1:10:16.240 --> 1:10:20.599 It feels like the way yeah life feels like the way. 1:10:21.240 --> 1:10:23.400 Yeah right, I agree. 1:10:23.600 --> 1:10:26.519 I will say I mean we'll cut and probably have 1:10:26.560 --> 1:10:30.280 to talk off book camera, but I will say this, 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:34.200 I think I'm getting old. I'm getting older, and I'm 1:10:34.280 --> 1:10:37.080 starting to discover that finding your truth has got to 1:10:37.120 --> 1:10:39.559 be one of the hardest things you can do. And 1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:42.640 I say that because sometimes we believe our truths is 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:45.440 a some of our actions, and I believe that sometimes 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:49.240 some of your actions can be just a autopilot response 1:10:49.320 --> 1:10:50.760 from our previous experiences. 1:10:51.160 --> 1:10:55.280 So like you if you. 1:10:53.680 --> 1:10:55.200 Oh you got it, Okay, I don't need know like 1:10:55.280 --> 1:10:57.479 Rick's but yeah, that's how I honestly feel like the 1:10:57.479 --> 1:10:59.600 more I get older, the more I'm like, what is 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:03.120 my truth truth? You know, because I'm a wild ball, 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:05.200 like a wild card. But at the same time, it's 1:11:05.200 --> 1:11:08.559 like like when I look at other people, I'm like, 1:11:08.920 --> 1:11:09.800 is that who you are? 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:12.120 Or is that just some of your experiences? 1:11:12.160 --> 1:11:16.680 Like, you know, like real conversations and lo, I love 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:19.559 that because I'm all for this. Yeah, I love these 1:11:19.560 --> 1:11:20.480 types of conversations. 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:24.360 I never to I never get to have these conversations. 1:11:24.360 --> 1:11:26.800 By the way, this is amazing because it's important, and 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:28.920 I think it's really important for us to start having 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:30.479 you know, there's a lot of great people out here 1:11:30.520 --> 1:11:34.599 like having, you know, high level conversations like nineteen Keys 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:37.200 who say, like, you know, and these it's the time 1:11:37.280 --> 1:11:40.559 for that, right, It's the time for evolution. It's the 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.240 time for taking charge in your own life so that 1:11:43.400 --> 1:11:45.360 those people that are supposed to be on that journey 1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:48.000 with you. Y'all team up and y'all create, Like we're 1:11:48.000 --> 1:11:53.240 all pro creating, whether good or bad whatever, you know 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:56.280 you we coexist in a world full of contrasts, and 1:11:56.360 --> 1:11:58.439 so at the end of the day, we got to 1:11:58.479 --> 1:11:59.320 find our tribe. 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:02.800 That's the main goal. Music is great, entertainment is great. 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:05.680 All of that shit is amazing. We love. It's magic, right, 1:12:05.720 --> 1:12:06.880 because we come with ideas. 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:08.200 We're going to the studio. I was at a studio 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:10.920 to six in the morning. We go in here, we 1:12:10.920 --> 1:12:13.960 create these ideas. Sometimes I create from spaces that are 1:12:14.120 --> 1:12:16.720 very conscious and aware, and sometimes I just create from 1:12:16.720 --> 1:12:17.799 whatever energy I'm feeling. 1:12:18.240 --> 1:12:20.040 But when I listen back, I can tell which wit 1:12:20.160 --> 1:12:20.439 is what? 1:12:20.560 --> 1:12:23.800 Right, Yeah, And so that's don't don't fall in love 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:26.519 with your creation so much so that you feel like 1:12:26.520 --> 1:12:27.360 that's who you are. 1:12:27.720 --> 1:12:31.280 That's a fragment of who you are saying. And so 1:12:31.320 --> 1:12:32.439 that's what I had to learn. 1:12:32.760 --> 1:12:34.760 Also, it's like, I don't have to be attached to 1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:37.559 what people feel like is rio, So if I stay attested, 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:39.800 it's probably gonna make me depressed because how can I 1:12:39.800 --> 1:12:42.920 have a grow like that? Right Exactly, So, I even 1:12:42.920 --> 1:12:44.519 in relationships or in friendships. 1:12:44.560 --> 1:12:46.800 I try not to fall in love with my creations. 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.720 I try to experience it, try to perform it at 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:52.800 the highest level. I can understand why it's there, and 1:12:52.840 --> 1:12:55.200 then from there I can decide, Okay, does this go 1:12:55.320 --> 1:12:55.600 with me? 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:56.400 And how far? 1:12:57.240 --> 1:13:02.280 I feel like we're a twin twin Solis in that 1:13:02.520 --> 1:13:05.400 like I I feel like one hundred percent agree with you. 1:13:05.920 --> 1:13:11.840 So family, So we're gonna have to close out this episode. 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:15.320 Is there where can people like keep up with you? 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:21.439 Catch you? Are you on Instagram? So we could catch 1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:22.599 you at it at. 1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:25.640 Mario at Mario Worldwide and Mario world I don't know 1:13:25.640 --> 1:13:27.960 when this is coming out, but I'm doing Drainville Festive. 1:13:27.960 --> 1:13:29.880 You're in the North Carolina. If you're flying out for that, 1:13:29.920 --> 1:13:31.680 you want to hit some good R and B. And 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:32.439 I'm being touring. 1:13:32.520 --> 1:13:34.400 I got a new project coming out, a new single 1:13:34.439 --> 1:13:36.840 out right now called You to Me features Todd Dolla. 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:41.439 Another summer smash coming out soon. And yeah, music is 1:13:41.479 --> 1:13:43.200 a passion of mine. So I ain't never going nowhere, 1:13:43.240 --> 1:13:44.840 but thank you for this. 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:47.280 This is thank you for coming on eating while broke, 1:13:47.640 --> 1:13:50.919 I was again super hyped, like made sure my calendar 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:54.720 was eagant ready for you, so happy for you to 1:13:54.800 --> 1:14:00.040 cook everybody. You guys can check out Mario's dish in 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:03.559 side our cookbook Eating While Broke. It will probably be 1:14:03.640 --> 1:14:07.960 our only dessert for the entire cookbook, So peace out, y'all. 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:31.160 Peace for more Eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and The 1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:35.160 Black Effect, Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:36.719 you listen to your favorite shows.