Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Wit and today we have a
Speaker 1: very special guest. I was super excited the second the
Speaker 1: second I heard your name. I was like, Yo, everybody
Speaker 1: like whatever day he wants all crew, We're just making
Speaker 1: it happen around your date. So today we have special
Speaker 1: guests Mario in the building.
Speaker 2: What's up? What's up? Mario?
Speaker 1: You don't need a bio or an explanation. Like you
Speaker 1: hear the name Mario, you already know who it is.
Speaker 2: Mario. Yes, I'm excited about this.
Speaker 1: So what are you making us eat today on Eating wildber.
Speaker 3: Look, usually this is something you would eat after your
Speaker 3: a big meal, your dinner or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to do something a little different. I've
Speaker 2: seen some of your shows, which I love your show
Speaker 2: by the way, thank it's a very moving show, is
Speaker 2: very raw. I love that. Today let me give you
Speaker 2: that sucker tuning up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of socket to me, and it's
Speaker 1: really spelled socket to me, Yeah crazy, and it's I
Speaker 1: never heard of it. And then I was like the
Speaker 1: second I saw socket to me, Cake, I said, huh
Speaker 1: and I said, let me google this. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: does exist, guys, it is.
Speaker 2: It is Google. It's a real thing.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know about it. In fact,
Speaker 3: I was a kid when my grandmother used to make it.
Speaker 3: And the fondest memories I have of soccer to me,
Speaker 3: cake is fighting with my cousins over who's going to
Speaker 3: get the bowl that had the last bit of battery.
Speaker 2: Okay, and these right here, yes.
Speaker 3: Like these, these could get you a black eye mouth
Speaker 3: because the way she used to mix the battery and
Speaker 3: get the whole it's just for so I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's gonna turn like that today. But I don't
Speaker 3: have her little special lists, she said.
Speaker 2: But she did. She tell me some seat why you.
Speaker 1: Know, just so you know a little side story, because
Speaker 1: I am familiar with the blender tools. We all licked
Speaker 1: them in our household too, especially don't let like chocolate
Speaker 1: chip cookie though, don't forget it. But I saw on
Speaker 1: these day actually have the new ones where it's like
Speaker 1: not metal, it's like flat, so you can really get
Speaker 1: a good lick, you can really, And we so this
Speaker 1: right here, these actually used to be Remember the old
Speaker 1: was that with just the lastick and it's rubber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we used to go in there and we
Speaker 2: used to go crazy.
Speaker 3: So anyway, soccer tomic cake is like and she used
Speaker 3: to make upside down pineapple cake, but that's a more popular, right,
Speaker 3: But this is like, was my favorite dessert that she
Speaker 3: would make. So I figured I would share here today
Speaker 3: since the show is so raw and open.
Speaker 1: And then, yeah, so what are the ingredients for the cake?
Speaker 2: Ingredients?
Speaker 3: We all know if we got the cake batter here,
Speaker 3: we have eggs oil, sugar sold cream.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like, why are you putting sour cream?
Speaker 2: And I was like, what I said, the same thing.
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's crazy chemistry, some water, and over here
Speaker 3: we have some cinnamons and pecans, some it's figgas butter,
Speaker 3: and then we're going to.
Speaker 1: Be a milkyke mixed. So side note, you guys don't know.
Speaker 1: You guys weren't here obviously, but every time Mario was
Speaker 1: looking at the cinnamon, he was like questioning it a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I was trying to get I was
Speaker 1: trying to get him to lick it.
Speaker 3: I was like, cinnamon mixed up with and it's crazy
Speaker 3: because this is the brow sugar.
Speaker 2: Obviously, is bigger grains. I had to smell it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, so let's get to making.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be your helper. So if you want,
Speaker 1: we can either walk you through your wars, because I
Speaker 1: see you have two different bowls.
Speaker 3: So you're going to do that bowl over there, okay,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do this, then you're going to do.
Speaker 2: It's not really any specific order. You just want to make.
Speaker 2: The The most important thing is once you get the better,
Speaker 2: everything in the better is that you beat it up.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: As long as you can okay, as long as you
Speaker 1: can like well, as long as it's like really smooth.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't see too many bubbles and like you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I'm really bad at cracking eggs.
Speaker 3: Ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I cracked.
Speaker 2: But if you want you want to do that, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna trying to try to hurry.
Speaker 1: Bad at cracking an egg. I'm gonna tell you a
Speaker 1: secret if you If you mess up, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I think the secret is to crack in an egg.
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell you before so they won't
Speaker 2: waste no eggs?
Speaker 1: No, I want to see you doing all right?
Speaker 2: Cool, that's okay, it's perfect. A wait, do you have
Speaker 2: to put it in here? All right, I'm resting.
Speaker 1: Awesome that you seem like a g Okay, let's see
Speaker 1: your next crack.
Speaker 2: Let's see if it was just a good one.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're good, no egg shell so far.
Speaker 2: Probably because I'm not hesitating. I'm just going for it.
Speaker 1: Yo, you're you're okay, you may be a professional.
Speaker 2: Wait what's that right there?
Speaker 1: That's a baby on pine?
Speaker 2: Where is that that little black piece?
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's just it's just we'll survive.
Speaker 2: Let's go for it, all right. Cool that you did it.
Speaker 1: Fantastic job cracking eggs. Just for you guys listening, My
Speaker 1: secrets of cracking an egg is exactly how he did it.
Speaker 1: The harder you crack it, the better it cracks.
Speaker 3: It was telepathy for sure, because I usually don't go
Speaker 3: like that just made me crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we got the eggs over the oil. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, this is this.
Speaker 3: Is already like we already put the right the measurements
Speaker 3: and we ain't just guessing, and then we got the
Speaker 3: white sugar.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy because like most people who can cook that.
Speaker 2: I know. They don't even do measurements. They go off
Speaker 2: of in state. That's how you go.
Speaker 1: But I think that's most black people though. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got no you may there's a rubber one on
Speaker 1: the other side. So now we got the sour cream.
Speaker 1: Now I've never seen.
Speaker 2: I used to love looking at this what we used
Speaker 2: to crazy?
Speaker 1: Now I have never seen sour cream going a cake.
Speaker 1: So when I heard the ingredients, I t.
Speaker 2: Of what the sour cream will be used for? Is
Speaker 2: it compted consistency?
Speaker 1: Is exporter textra makes it like all moist and nice? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: trust me. I did research because I was like, socker
Speaker 1: to me. Then I called some friends, like sour cream
Speaker 1: and cake, you should they didn't make a mistake, and
Speaker 1: she's like, no, girl, it makes it all so nice.
Speaker 2: Okay. Being a chef probably really makes you understand chemistry better.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to go on this side now.
Speaker 2: Yeah it sure, wait, I gotta put this water in
Speaker 2: here for oh yeah water?
Speaker 1: All right, So there's all the ingredients for the sucking
Speaker 1: to me cake. Now before Mario starts blending and us
Speaker 1: having to send you to uh, it's a commercial because
Speaker 1: no listener is gonna want to hear that blend. So
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna to do so Soccer to me, has
Speaker 1: it is interesting because what I had noticed you can
Speaker 1: explain this, but it has like pecans.
Speaker 2: And cinnamon, got pecan cinnamon inside. So what you get
Speaker 2: with it?
Speaker 3: You get this sweet, doughey yet still crunchy texture when
Speaker 3: you write into it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I personally like to eat mine and drink it with
Speaker 3: almond milk, which is why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're both we're both drinking almond milk.
Speaker 3: But it's warm and it's it's amazing. You want to
Speaker 3: eat it warm. You can eat it cold, but you
Speaker 3: definitely want to eat it warm. Yes, just put the Yeah, put.
Speaker 1: The cinnamon right, So cinnamon in the cake mix. We
Speaker 1: have some brown sugar in the cake mix. We have
Speaker 1: pecans in the cake and then we got.
Speaker 2: To mix it.
Speaker 1: Right, yet do we really put this to sugar? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I'm following you.
Speaker 3: That's again, that's the helps the Okay, we mix it.
Speaker 3: And so what happens is we're gonna mix this first. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna put that inside.
Speaker 1: Mario, Well, just finished blending the cake mix. It's officially done,
Speaker 1: and now I made the topic. Well if this isn't
Speaker 1: the top, and this is like the side of the.
Speaker 2: Cake in between the cake.
Speaker 3: I can't remember exactly how that part works because I
Speaker 3: was always waiting.
Speaker 2: For the batter, the batter booth.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's get our little pants. I think I did
Speaker 1: have butter, but I don't have the We'll just do
Speaker 1: a kind of ghetto spread it over. I melted it
Speaker 1: on the oven by accident, so we're gonna spread it.
Speaker 1: We got our little pants. I'm so excited to to
Speaker 1: try the cake. But I'm also so excited to hear
Speaker 1: Mario being broke at some point and Mario being the
Speaker 1: superstar that we know.
Speaker 3: All right, cool, let me do this real quick because
Speaker 3: it was a little scalpy in there. Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: We got it, all right, So here we go. We
Speaker 1: pour the battering. Can we test it? Can we? Are
Speaker 1: we allowed to lick the little sticks?
Speaker 2: This is yours like an ice cream. It's like your
Speaker 2: little cake.
Speaker 1: Col Yes, here we go, chairs here all right, let's see.
Speaker 2: See this is why we used to go crazy. You say,
Speaker 2: you get it, you get it.
Speaker 1: I have had a siblings. Okay, this is what we
Speaker 1: do siblings.
Speaker 3: I got four sisters and three brothers. But that's on
Speaker 3: my father's side. But I did grow up with most
Speaker 3: of my ass and uncles and all my little cousins.
Speaker 3: It was like eighteen of us living in the house.
Speaker 1: I ate this.
Speaker 2: This isn't deserved by itself.
Speaker 1: Crazy the better it is fantastic. All right, So are
Speaker 1: you getting in it?
Speaker 2: I like it?
Speaker 1: I like I like how you go bring Okay, so
Speaker 1: pour your some. I guess you're pouring some of it
Speaker 1: into like half of the batter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta fill it up halfway. Oh wow, there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: We make that ship it and we left this battery
Speaker 3: here so that we can just we can see the
Speaker 3: part of the experience. Like, yes, when I was a kid,
Speaker 3: like we would literally argue over who was going to
Speaker 3: get the batter, right, yeah, because it's like.
Speaker 1: Well while we while we tried this batter. I want
Speaker 1: to know a little bit more about you.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you want to know? Where
Speaker 2: would you? Like?
Speaker 1: I want the story to start all with the batter,
Speaker 1: So what was going on at the time, like when
Speaker 1: you were fighting over cake batter? Like who were you
Speaker 1: living with I want to know the whole backstory.
Speaker 2: Well, we moved around quite a few times. When I
Speaker 2: was younger. We grew up in Emison Village. What state
Speaker 2: is that, I said, West Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Okay, my mother was pregnant with me. She lived closer
Speaker 3: to the projects, and then she moved around a lot.
Speaker 3: And then when I was about I would say, ages
Speaker 3: like four to five, I was living with my grandmother.
Speaker 3: There was like eighteen of us living in a water
Speaker 3: household between the eighties and like six and.
Speaker 2: Ten years old.
Speaker 1: Was your mom a single mom?
Speaker 2: Yeah? She was. She was.
Speaker 3: I saw my dad like once when I was younger,
Speaker 3: and then as I guess time went on, it just
Speaker 3: got more dissing than this.
Speaker 2: But we're cloling down, But damn, mama was a singlema.
Speaker 3: But I was like, we had one of those families
Speaker 3: where everybody was raised by everybody, you know, so and so,
Speaker 3: whoever was at the house was who's watching the kids.
Speaker 2: But we had a lot of freedom.
Speaker 3: As kids because our parents were all like this is
Speaker 3: we're talking about the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2: Right, So our parents.
Speaker 3: Were all like living their lives and kind of just
Speaker 3: in the streets. Really, it was just it wasn't It
Speaker 3: wasn't something that we knew to be abnormal. Yeah, to
Speaker 3: be over your friend's house and your parents not know
Speaker 3: where you are, or to be out until ten eleven
Speaker 3: and no one's calling to see where you are.
Speaker 1: So was your family primarily all in that city?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, okay, yes.
Speaker 1: Because I know, like for me, like I have family
Speaker 1: in you know, Chicago, Kelly, I'm from New York, but
Speaker 1: like you know, different, So we didn't grow up like
Speaker 1: a lot of people in one house. But you're saying
Speaker 1: like eighteen people were in a house.
Speaker 2: And it's like it, but it was. It was like
Speaker 2: a revolving door.
Speaker 3: Because again, I mean, I guess the closest thing I
Speaker 3: could say is like you remember that scene to Minnie
Speaker 3: Society when came first wake up in the house and
Speaker 3: the party going on, the music's play.
Speaker 2: That's like what I was, like, Saint God out it
Speaker 2: was normal? Wow, I feel me So Yeah.
Speaker 1: So just to fashion, you started in the industry at
Speaker 1: what age.
Speaker 3: I was, Well, I would say I started at over
Speaker 3: You know, my first concert was in my liberal you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, with my grandmother and my aunts
Speaker 3: and my uncles and I was a kid that was
Speaker 3: always singing everybody's birthday parties, right, So my mother would
Speaker 3: make once she saw at four years old that I
Speaker 3: had a talent or passion for music, she kept music
Speaker 3: around me. She brought me this mic that tuned into
Speaker 3: the radio when I was around four or five Christmas,
Speaker 3: and I literally would wake up every morning and miss
Speaker 3: Max Socks and me singing and tuning into the radio,
Speaker 3: like trying to mimic everything. That's how it became I
Speaker 3: think of good singing because I would try to mimic
Speaker 3: everything I heard, from boys, some men, to you know Joe,
Speaker 3: to the older music. My grandmother used to play Whitney Houston,
Speaker 3: anything that had melody to it.
Speaker 2: I would try to sing.
Speaker 1: So your family in totality, like did they embrace it?
Speaker 1: And were you the only singer in the family or
Speaker 1: were there like other symbls like well, I could try
Speaker 1: and compete.
Speaker 3: I guess my mother was right. She played a piano
Speaker 3: and she also just had a great ear form. She
Speaker 3: also sang. On my father's side, he sang, but at
Speaker 3: the time I didn't know that, and I think it
Speaker 3: was just my family just had a lot of soul
Speaker 3: and I went to church and was singing church every
Speaker 3: Sunday from the ages of eight until I moved away
Speaker 3: from Baltimore. So I had a lot of soul around me.
Speaker 3: I had a lot of soulful people. I mean, my
Speaker 3: grandmother cooked a lot. Like it was just very much.
Speaker 3: So like throughout the week, you know, family members like
Speaker 3: coming over, like everybody want to hear me sing.
Speaker 2: If it was a birthday, I'm singing at the birthday party. Okay.
Speaker 3: So it became a thing where I got my confidence
Speaker 3: because of my family, and my support came from there.
Speaker 2: My first talent show was.
Speaker 3: Elementary school and we were in a group and we
Speaker 3: sung I want to say, it was standard ray or
Speaker 3: I Make Love to You by Boys Cemen. And after
Speaker 3: that performance was a day I knew that I wanted
Speaker 3: to do music.
Speaker 1: Was that because of the crowd's reaction or what that was? That?
Speaker 2: Right? It was the crowd's reaction.
Speaker 3: But as a kid, like you're going to school with
Speaker 3: kids that like don't like you, you know what a kid,
Speaker 3: you go through a lot all of these things where
Speaker 3: it's like you have a weird you know, relationships with
Speaker 3: each other socially.
Speaker 2: And then I do that and it's like everybody likes you.
Speaker 1: Were you kind of bullied before, but it was just
Speaker 1: it was just like everyone.
Speaker 2: I was never really bullied. I was.
Speaker 3: I got in a lot of fights, but I wasn't
Speaker 3: bullied as a kid. I was just like I mean,
Speaker 3: I grew up in a household where we was always
Speaker 3: fighting with each other.
Speaker 2: Clearly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my older cousins like we would like come on,
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying, Like they was beating
Speaker 3: us up, and we was always so it was outside.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we're ready.
Speaker 1: But you do the talent show and you see a
Speaker 1: shift in your classmates right away? Or do you just
Speaker 1: see a shift at the show.
Speaker 3: I see a shift as everybody teachers, classmates, the whole school, Okay, Right.
Speaker 3: As a kid, I was so I was very exposed
Speaker 3: to so much, so I knew how to read human
Speaker 3: behavior at a young age. So I saw the shift.
Speaker 3: And as a kid, you're thinking about a better life,
Speaker 3: like or like you're thinking about how.
Speaker 2: To be the coolest in the school.
Speaker 3: So it's like it automatically shot me from being this
Speaker 3: little fat, chubby kid who could.
Speaker 2: Say I was a fat kid.
Speaker 1: I would never think that.
Speaker 2: This battle I'll say that, celebrate them, I would Shelby
Speaker 2: kid like she can pull it up in kid, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that, you know what I'm saying. So like
Speaker 2: as a fam you blow the roof off, go crazy, Okay.
Speaker 3: And then my grandmother was right there in the first
Speaker 3: A lot of it was seeing her, her excitement and
Speaker 3: happiness for me, you know what I'm saying, Like having
Speaker 3: heard there and my mom named there, like they were
Speaker 3: like my biggest supporters as a kid, and like helping
Speaker 3: me instore that confidence. Okay, Okay, So by the time
Speaker 3: I got to talent shows. I'm gonna tell you about
Speaker 3: this more later when we get to like the age
Speaker 3: of like eleven, But like by the time I got there,
Speaker 3: I had.
Speaker 2: A lot a lot of confidence in myself that I
Speaker 2: didn't had.
Speaker 1: Before by the time because because of all the talented.
Speaker 3: Party and the talent the family event like those, Because
Speaker 3: singing in front of your family is hard. Yeah, Like
Speaker 3: singing in front of people who you love and know
Speaker 3: is like sometimes more difficult than singing in front of strangers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was a kid, I was fun. Fact,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna really know this except for my family. But
Speaker 1: my family we had like a family band, someone like
Speaker 1: the Jackson's. My mom was like worse than Joe Jackson,
Speaker 1: except first she didn't get the Michael Jackson results right. Anyways,
Speaker 1: one of the things I remember is the damn where
Speaker 1: was I going with this?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: One of the things I realized as a childhood performer
Speaker 1: was that it was always harder for me to perform
Speaker 1: in front of one person. But if I had like
Speaker 1: a hundred people or two hundred people, five hundred people,
Speaker 1: a thousand killed it.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But like if you put one person in front of me,
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And so so I think it's interesting
Speaker 1: that you saying that in front of your family.
Speaker 3: You were cool in front of my family. Now I
Speaker 3: was saying in front of my family at one point
Speaker 3: it was like nerve wrecking to like like grow knowing
Speaker 3: that I had to get right, but singing that on
Speaker 3: the spot at birthday parties and doing that type. So
Speaker 3: now come on in here and when they're playing and
Speaker 3: doing pillow fighting, little outside having a rock fight, and
Speaker 3: then you get called in to sing a heavy birth
Speaker 3: and you know, so it's like those types of things
Speaker 3: help to build my coffee.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see what you're saying, Okay, so you go
Speaker 1: from being on the spot now your groom. You're slowly
Speaker 1: morphing into the superstar because you start. The reason why
Speaker 1: I keep bringing this up is because you were so
Speaker 1: young when you started, and I want to see like
Speaker 1: how it happened, Like what exactly happened, and how that translate.
Speaker 3: Milestones in my younger life that led to being seen
Speaker 3: by the right people. The molestone as what we're talking
Speaker 3: about before the elementary school talent show. That talent show
Speaker 3: was a milestone because the first time that it went
Speaker 3: from everybody in my family knowing this kid has talent,
Speaker 3: to my peers and the school I went to every day,
Speaker 3: people now knowing like, oh, you know, just this is
Speaker 3: not just a talent show.
Speaker 2: We got dressed. I was in a group. We got
Speaker 2: dressed for guys.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I was in the group with Monique Sudden.
Speaker 3: Monique from Baltimore, the comedian Wow put us because we
Speaker 3: used to live down the street. She put us in
Speaker 3: a group and we rehearsed in her basement everything and.
Speaker 1: Was Monique as big as she was at the at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Wow, She wasn't unique yet, sure she was on her
Speaker 3: like she And so that was a milestone because it
Speaker 3: was now like, oh, oh, we gotta put this, we
Speaker 3: gotta get help, we gotta you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So then after that.
Speaker 3: I think I wanna said it was like elementary school,
Speaker 3: old year, elementary school.
Speaker 2: I was like like five to ten, right, I don't
Speaker 2: know or whatever.
Speaker 3: Anyway that age and from that point on it became
Speaker 3: more of like a duty in the job because now
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, practicing, well, I got out of the
Speaker 3: group I'm talking about. Like with my mom, it was like,
Speaker 3: this is it. This is the thing that's going to
Speaker 3: keep my baby from turning into our other you know,
Speaker 3: her cousins and jail and streets and six or seven.
Speaker 1: Your mom in that decision worse.
Speaker 3: She told me, Okay, she said she knew she had
Speaker 3: to do that because she saw she knew growing up
Speaker 3: in Bottomore. It it's because of my family history. It
Speaker 3: was only nobody really did any I was. I'm the
Speaker 3: first to like really leave the city and do something
Speaker 3: amazing with this life.
Speaker 2: Life.
Speaker 3: Life life changes, like you know generationally, you know. So
Speaker 3: my mother was actually a she had a scholarship playing
Speaker 3: tennis in Kaytonsville, and she had an accident.
Speaker 2: And so it was at the time, and so she
Speaker 2: just wanted to see me do great things. And I
Speaker 2: think that music.
Speaker 3: When she saw that, it was like, okay, so what
Speaker 3: the that is? You know, practicing talent shows? Oh you're
Speaker 3: only ten, but you're.
Speaker 2: You're doing a talent show with sixteen and seventeen year olds.
Speaker 2: I don't care you're gonna do it. I don't want
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: Like the other time, it smells like cake, smells like
Speaker 1: so your mom like, and she she also like provided
Speaker 1: a level of discipline and structure to your career.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's forehead, all.
Speaker 1: Right, But did you do you do it the chicken
Speaker 1: and egg? Did your mom come to you and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're talented and we're gonna pour all this or were
Speaker 1: you like, Mom, I really think I can do this?
Speaker 1: And then she poured it into you.
Speaker 2: Such a great question. And soon as you asked me that,
Speaker 2: it took me to the sound way. She took me
Speaker 2: to a barbershop.
Speaker 3: And I can't remember how old it was, but as
Speaker 3: I got older, she started taking me to the barbershop.
Speaker 2: She used to cut my head and then she started
Speaker 2: and she.
Speaker 3: Had me sing for the guys in a barbershop, right,
Speaker 3: and all of them gave me ten dollars each. So
Speaker 3: I must have walked out of there with almost two
Speaker 3: hundred dollars okay, right, And so that's the first time
Speaker 3: I noticed that I can make money doing it, okay.
Speaker 3: And I told I remember telling her. I said, my like,
Speaker 3: this is I can make money singing.
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah you can.
Speaker 3: She's like, who's got to work hard, you know, and
Speaker 3: believe in yourself. And so after that she started putting
Speaker 3: me in talent shows and I did my first big
Speaker 3: talent show that got me some recognition was a talent
Speaker 3: show copa state hop and State College in Baltimore. And
Speaker 3: I didn't win the show, but Drew Hill was there.
Speaker 3: It was label Execs there.
Speaker 2: It was a big thing. It used to happen like
Speaker 2: once every three four months.
Speaker 1: Did you know that those type of level of people
Speaker 1: are going to be there?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: So you just came to oh mom, Okay, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: And I have another question to go back to the
Speaker 1: barbershop story. Do you think your mom knew that they
Speaker 1: were going to give you the money or do you
Speaker 1: think it was a pleasant surprise?
Speaker 3: For both definitely a pleasant surprise, but she was just
Speaker 3: bragging like almost us, saying he can he can go
Speaker 3: right okay. And then she was like saying, so she's
Speaker 3: always prominent the spot. And I used to hate it
Speaker 3: because I'm just like I like to prepare my mind
Speaker 3: for it. She used to make me do it because
Speaker 3: I think she just she was proud, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: would do that with my child, you know.
Speaker 2: And and I also thought.
Speaker 3: I think she just loved music so much as well,
Speaker 3: so her passion for seeing me do what she loves
Speaker 3: also was just immediate all that much more important to her.
Speaker 2: And so now she just maybe and then they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: little man, look like happened.
Speaker 1: Just happened now before we go into like the tipping point,
Speaker 1: I would like to say that the pre tipping point,
Speaker 1: so just kind of circle back on you and your mom.
Speaker 1: So it seems like and I could be off. Was
Speaker 1: this like the music kind of also like this bonding
Speaker 1: thing that you guys had or was it like it
Speaker 1: was it became like the little glue between you or
Speaker 1: do you guys? Did you guys have like an overall
Speaker 1: well balanced relationship and this was just the toping.
Speaker 3: Well I would say that our relationship got tighter as
Speaker 3: I got older because I started to understand the importance
Speaker 3: of it more as a kid. She was there, but
Speaker 3: she also wasn't there in a lot of ways because
Speaker 3: she was suffering from her with her or challenges of life.
Speaker 2: And so music was definitely.
Speaker 3: Something I never doubted between It was one thousand per
Speaker 3: cent of bar we had. She played piano sometimes and
Speaker 3: I would literally just I coulpays sing To this day,
Speaker 3: it's something I love to do with producers and writer.
Speaker 3: It's just because I used to do it with my mother.
Speaker 3: So it's like a lot of songs start like that.
Speaker 3: A lot of moments, a lot of great chemistry start
Speaker 3: like that between creators. Because that's why I feel comfortable
Speaker 3: breaking the ice. I might not even know how to
Speaker 3: talk to somebody, we might never get it, but since
Speaker 3: the music start, you know, and I think she is
Speaker 3: still that in me of like helping me understand the
Speaker 3: communication and music. How powerful it was in terms of
Speaker 3: creating space to understand each other.
Speaker 2: And there was definitely a glue. It was one percent
Speaker 2: of glue.
Speaker 3: She'd always play amazing music and she was one of
Speaker 3: those people that she took everything when it came to
Speaker 3: music and picking the right songs at the right time.
Speaker 3: She just took it really seriously. She was always playing
Speaker 3: music around out. She always had a car. Fully see,
Speaker 3: when CDs came out, she had those booklets, you know,
Speaker 3: those book with the CD just unlimited music, just music,
Speaker 3: and I would take cart would steal it, honestly out
Speaker 3: of her car and I would go put it in
Speaker 3: my carrier machine. And the one I had, you could
Speaker 3: put the CD in on one side and the cassetteide
Speaker 3: and courge yourself sack.
Speaker 2: So I would do that. Wou practice and pant practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so so she So she definitely played a
Speaker 1: huge role in your music career. So going back to
Speaker 1: this big performance at this college. So what happens you perform,
Speaker 1: you get off stage, someone slides your card.
Speaker 3: Let's before we even get there, Okay, all right, putting
Speaker 3: you in this talent show. This conversation we happened putting
Speaker 3: in this talent show. You know at the time, I
Speaker 3: want to say, she was trying to go back to
Speaker 3: college at the time, so she would we would leave
Speaker 3: school and then go audition for stuff. She would always
Speaker 3: try to get me in these things and shows and plays,
Speaker 3: and we go to this audition and we meet this
Speaker 3: guy who's running the talent show and I was the
Speaker 3: youngest person on the show besides his niece.
Speaker 2: How old were you would you say at this time?
Speaker 2: It had to be like ten eleven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe too. And we get there and it's a
Speaker 3: long line of people, right, so we're walking past. Little
Speaker 3: do I know this is the audition line. It's the
Speaker 3: audition line. But everybody I know. I don't see any kids.
Speaker 2: I see groups.
Speaker 3: I see guys out there dancing and they popping and stuff.
Speaker 3: I see girls out there. I see all types of stuff.
Speaker 3: And so we get inside and we're just waiting inside.
Speaker 3: So we sat inside and he came in.
Speaker 2: I went in.
Speaker 3: No, I sat inside and there was somebody in there singing,
Speaker 3: going crazy. She was singing like Whitney Houston or some
Speaker 3: crazy incredible I heard it through the door.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there the time listen listening to her sing,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm like, ma, I'm looking at her.
Speaker 2: She's like, come on, you going to here. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want to do it. Started crying.
Speaker 2: I got scared. She kneeled down. My mother was very
Speaker 2: she was a capracr so she was very aggressive. And
Speaker 2: it's like it wasn't even if she told her no,
Speaker 2: she don't hear no. She don't. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: possible for her to hear no. It was just impossible.
Speaker 2: So I like her already, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So like she was just one of those that that
Speaker 3: type of energy, and I was very scared of her.
Speaker 3: Please okay, please don't make me go in I don't
Speaker 3: know this.
Speaker 2: Man, Like, don't make me go ahead and sing if
Speaker 2: it is bad.
Speaker 3: And so I went in there and I sang and
Speaker 3: but yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He thought it was great whatever, And I got to
Speaker 2: tell a show. So that's how that starts. Now.
Speaker 1: Just see in the room when you were singing, like, okay,
Speaker 1: did you feel extra pressure like you better?
Speaker 2: Was it was? I was.
Speaker 3: I left my body at that point. I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been able to do what I was just leaving. I
Speaker 3: gave in, I gave up. I said, look, but I realized,
Speaker 3: like looking back now, even as I'm telling a story,
Speaker 3: I realized that everything that she was doing.
Speaker 2: Was preparing me for these moments.
Speaker 3: You know, So it came. It got to the point
Speaker 3: where once I start singing, I.
Speaker 2: Think I was madic because I know that space.
Speaker 3: And I think anybody can relate to like having a
Speaker 3: passion for something, no matter what's going on, when you
Speaker 3: tap into that energy and you're in that vortex and
Speaker 3: you're in that moment present, all your fears, everything goes
Speaker 3: out the window and it's just you and God and
Speaker 3: you know, And that's what that was. And I think
Speaker 3: that was like one of the first moments where I
Speaker 3: realized the power and what she was doing, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it was powerful.
Speaker 2: So I did that. And then I think the Talent
Speaker 2: show was a week later or something.
Speaker 3: We got got dressed, I put on I had a
Speaker 3: jeans suit set on with some fake a fake silver chain.
Speaker 3: She cut my hair at that time. I actually still
Speaker 3: got pictures somewhere. I gotta find it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I got and we go to the
Speaker 2: Talent show. I do this show.
Speaker 3: I kill it, you know, And then her his niece
Speaker 3: ended up winning, but I think he gave it to
Speaker 3: it for the but it was a moment that I'll
Speaker 3: just never forget.
Speaker 2: I was backstage.
Speaker 3: I was mad, I was frustrated at a loss and
Speaker 3: then like Drew Hill came in there, Cisco came in,
Speaker 3: there was like solo man, Jazz came in there, is
Speaker 3: it was it was fire and it was like.
Speaker 1: Yeah and they yeah, they was there and so it
Speaker 1: was fire.
Speaker 2: That was fire.
Speaker 1: So then what happens after that?
Speaker 3: So after that, my mother meets a agent slash manager
Speaker 3: at the time, and they connect. It's like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: think your son has talent, but this is stuff that
Speaker 3: she's telling me, and yeah. They just stayed connected over
Speaker 3: the years and years later he reached out to her
Speaker 3: to put me in a group.
Speaker 2: Years later, Wow, two years ago and two or three
Speaker 2: years when.
Speaker 1: You were doing solo at this time, I was just solo.
Speaker 2: I was a solo artist.
Speaker 3: I was singing in church. Mind you do all of this,
Speaker 3: I'm singing in church. I'm like all of that, right,
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 2: I tried a group. Things that don't work out, and
Speaker 2: then I ended up moving.
Speaker 3: In New Jersey when I was like thirteen fourteen that
Speaker 3: freshman year.
Speaker 1: And high school and these are like, these cities aren't
Speaker 1: like I would say, I would for lack of better word,
Speaker 1: these aren't These are rough cities. Baltimore, but Jersey.
Speaker 2: Also Jersey, where I lived, that wasn't it was it.
Speaker 3: It was some of the kids that went to the
Speaker 3: school I went to came from rough areas, so that's whay.
Speaker 3: A lot of crazy stuff was going on like when
Speaker 3: I got there. But like the Bregen County wasn't like
Speaker 3: a super rough place, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was spots, you feel me, like certain gangs or
Speaker 3: certain culs. But it was nothing like I've never I've
Speaker 3: never in my life been anywhere is as crazy as Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Se And do you still go back to used to
Speaker 1: go back time.
Speaker 2: And time from time time, not a lot, but from
Speaker 2: time to time.
Speaker 1: So you and your mom just solo dolo to Jersey.
Speaker 2: Well, I went, She said me, by myself. What do
Speaker 2: you mean by yourself?
Speaker 1: Just wait, I here's a plane ticket, by I mean,
Speaker 1: here's let me.
Speaker 2: I'm skipping something. I'm not.
Speaker 3: Let me not do that because I'm let me go back.
Speaker 3: All right, cool, fuck it, we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Now, we're gonna get by the way, yeah, you already
Speaker 1: know we're gonna go over time. I saw, I saw
Speaker 1: the mark.
Speaker 2: We're going on get some cake.
Speaker 3: So during this time, my family was falling a part
Speaker 3: a lot, you know a lot of things where people
Speaker 3: are getting older and things were changing.
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on.
Speaker 3: And I kind of got misplaced in that because when
Speaker 3: my grandmother passed when I was twelve years old, that
Speaker 3: took a lot out of me. That that changed my life,
Speaker 3: That changed my perspective of everything I thought love was
Speaker 3: life was.
Speaker 2: My grandmother worked three jobs to take care of the family.
Speaker 3: My great grandmother lived with us, her mother, And so
Speaker 3: I watched my grandmother work tirelessly.
Speaker 2: And take care of the.
Speaker 3: Family while going through her own issues and sugar I
Speaker 3: be like, I watched her kind of like deteriorate in
Speaker 3: front of me because of stress and just life and
Speaker 3: bad eating habits and you know, all of the things
Speaker 3: that a lot of our grandmothers and uncle's didn't care
Speaker 3: her worry about the time. Like if I knew what
Speaker 3: I knew now about health and like the importance of
Speaker 3: the frequency of your body and taking care of yourself
Speaker 3: and the right fools out, would have been able to
Speaker 3: save my grandmother for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think about that so much, and I'm like.
Speaker 1: Would you say she passed young? The word grandma her
Speaker 1: late faifty ye does young?
Speaker 3: And so that took a toll on my family. My
Speaker 3: family kind of fell apart after that. You know, even
Speaker 3: though we had our issues that every it was a
Speaker 3: lot of toxic, crazy stuff going on.
Speaker 2: We're still family. But she was like the bat. She
Speaker 2: was themself. You know.
Speaker 3: She was the one that everybody would call when they
Speaker 3: had issues, if they needed money, if they needed whatever,
Speaker 3: like you know, So when that happened, it it changed.
Speaker 3: It made me numb as a kid, I was.
Speaker 2: I was. She was. She was like my mom, Like
Speaker 2: she was like really my mom.
Speaker 1: To assay, when you say it made you numb, so
Speaker 1: that means that you were like avoiding your feelings.
Speaker 2: It made me that time to life.
Speaker 3: It made me numb to like expectations, It made me
Speaker 3: numb to anything, like there was no more light in
Speaker 3: my life. I felt like she was my life, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like I was, I seen so
Speaker 3: many crazy things. I've seen people overdose in our house.
Speaker 3: I've seen police was raising our house every other weekend,
Speaker 3: like stee feeling like.
Speaker 2: I grew up like that, and it was like.
Speaker 3: She was the She just made life seeing like everything
Speaker 3: was gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: It was like.
Speaker 1: That that her passing made you numb. But then you
Speaker 1: just name like other things that were like some some
Speaker 1: most people like myself would be like that was super
Speaker 1: level trauma, regular regular.
Speaker 3: All of that was regular, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: all of that to me was was a regularized seek.
Speaker 2: Since I can remember, I was seeing things stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 3: My my uncle got killed when I was like four
Speaker 3: or five years old. My mother's brother, like he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, somebody in our family that everybody looked up to.
Speaker 2: He got shot twice. You know, I remember being.
Speaker 1: A kid, and so you were like you were knew
Speaker 1: to death, you weren't new to overdose, you weren't new
Speaker 1: to crime. But then your grandma passes and that because
Speaker 1: to me, to.
Speaker 2: Me, she was like I'd never seen my grandmother cry.
Speaker 3: I never except way in church, like you know when
Speaker 3: she was praising the Lord, like I never seen her.
Speaker 3: I never seen her fail or give up or or
Speaker 3: she never wanted anybody to see her in pain. So
Speaker 3: when she started getting sick and I started seeing that
Speaker 3: part of her manifest I was just like, wait, what
Speaker 3: is life like?
Speaker 2: What is this? What's really going on?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, so anyway, where she passed,
Speaker 3: fell fell apart, and it was kind of like I
Speaker 3: was a free agent.
Speaker 2: It was like I was living with friends. I was
Speaker 2: here's your mom.
Speaker 1: What was going on with your mom?
Speaker 3: Though at the time, I can't tell you exactly what
Speaker 3: was going on where because I don't know, but I
Speaker 3: know that she.
Speaker 2: Was so you're her relationship.
Speaker 1: She would like bob in and out your life, but
Speaker 1: your grandma was your staple. That's that's what I'm getting.
Speaker 2: One thousand percent. Okay, Okay, I'm not good at telling
Speaker 2: this story.
Speaker 1: No, No, you're doing a great job. I'm just because
Speaker 1: it's so crazy, Like I love hearing your story, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 2: And it's true. I'm not gonna lie. It's my truth.
Speaker 3: Is the reason why I am the way I am today,
Speaker 3: why i'm you know, still here even in this game,
Speaker 3: and and just.
Speaker 2: Like focusing on living up no matter how hard things get.
Speaker 1: Like so, but you know you're in my opinion, like
Speaker 1: the entertainment business has got to be one of the
Speaker 1: hardest industries, especially in I'm going to say especially in
Speaker 1: your position, because when you hit the I would say
Speaker 1: you break the class ceiling right in an industry. That's like,
Speaker 1: you know, constantly like okay, being pitched. Okay, what's the new,
Speaker 1: what's the new, what's the new, what's the news.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's helping me. Everything in life is alchemy. Alchemy, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean when you're dealing with when you're dealing with
Speaker 3: something that has to do with giving people an expression
Speaker 3: or an experience to have, it's all energy and it's
Speaker 3: all ugly.
Speaker 2: And that's how I've looked at it.
Speaker 3: I'll save for the past six or seven years of
Speaker 3: my life, like, Okay, how do I balance out all
Speaker 3: these Are we burning that?
Speaker 2: No? You're not burning it?
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Should we check though? We should check it real quick.
Speaker 1: Really, it's only been like twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Is it all right? Cool? Fat?
Speaker 1: It smells like it just smells good. But you know
Speaker 1: what it smells. Okay, you know that's all. Pause for
Speaker 1: a second and just check it out. Mario was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I smell it burning and I was like.
Speaker 2: No, it's not the first time. He was like, no,
Speaker 2: it's good.
Speaker 1: It's definitely it definitely burns. Because this is what happens
Speaker 1: when Coleen tries to be a backwards chef. So col
Speaker 1: we did burn it, but before we get coked, we're
Speaker 1: gonna try it.
Speaker 2: Let's try it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try this, all right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna should we should we?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna try it like that?
Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 1: There's more burn. Sorry, guys, I'm gonna try and I'm
Speaker 1: going to try and put it on the plate, just
Speaker 1: so you guys could see the inside of it. Is
Speaker 1: it good?
Speaker 2: Is it right? Is it okay? That's okay?
Speaker 1: Is it because I messed with it?
Speaker 2: Okay? I want to see the inside. Guys.
Speaker 1: Look it looks like legit. Look at the inside, so.
Speaker 2: You look cool if you look at it from next.
Speaker 1: So look, we have the cinnamon in there. The cake
Speaker 1: probably mad because I burnt his cake. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: burnt your cake.
Speaker 2: I wish I would justin.
Speaker 1: He was like I smelled.
Speaker 2: I was like I knew it was going there. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's going there. So I was in the story.
Speaker 1: So okay, So I'm gonna try this cake. Mario's already
Speaker 1: digging in.
Speaker 2: Crazy during even matter. Oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 1: Don't see why they use this RB. It's super moist.
Speaker 1: Is yours as good as mine. Hold up, let me
Speaker 1: show you how gangster I am. Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: creak is good.
Speaker 2: All right, you gotta try with the almond milk dough.
Speaker 3: So get a bite and then like right after they
Speaker 3: drink some other it's gonna put anything.
Speaker 1: Wait, I wanted to put some of the batter on it,
Speaker 1: right because I'm gangster, all right, I know what.
Speaker 2: Is batter like.
Speaker 1: But look, it's gonna be like an icing okay here, yeah,
Speaker 1: really that's what I was saying. If we put the
Speaker 1: batter on top, that it's gonna take away the breath.
Speaker 1: Oh is that what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I was saying that when he came, he's trying, then
Speaker 3: it would have all right, let's hold on, honest the
Speaker 3: thing and it wasn't Prasey with the batter already.
Speaker 2: He ain't eve gotta say that. Don't even say that, Ireny.
Speaker 1: Tell me that I had wow mm hmm on the milk,
Speaker 1: my milk, cheers.
Speaker 2: Chers eat it. Where I broke broken, we ain't broke.
Speaker 1: But what an amazing combo, you know what. I definitely
Speaker 1: say the sweetness and almond milk, so the cake turned
Speaker 1: out absolutely delicious. This took us like fifteen minutes to
Speaker 1: like prep and make, and if you don't have me
Speaker 1: in your kitchen, you probably won't burn your cake.
Speaker 2: It's okay, but we made it work.
Speaker 1: We put the batter as icing, totally hooked it.
Speaker 2: Up in and it's still it's still like the tastes.
Speaker 2: You still get what the you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So tom cake, Yeah, it's the cinnamon and the soft missing.
Speaker 2: There's a certain custard that goes over the top. I
Speaker 2: think that's what that's to use for mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to actually, it's actually supposed to have that
Speaker 3: are on the top, but it's supposed to be a
Speaker 3: different type of like an icing, like an icing.
Speaker 2: I don't see. My grandma was a wizard in the kitchen. Love.
Speaker 1: I crazy appreciate your grandma's contribution. So your life, because
Speaker 1: now I can have Soccer to Me cake for the first.
Speaker 3: Time, and you could and you could cook it more
Speaker 3: often and get better at you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: all right, and.
Speaker 1: You can say that made Soccer to Me cake one
Speaker 1: time on the show. I gotta drink this.
Speaker 2: Milk, doesn't it add like the extra?
Speaker 1: Like I'm surprised the cake isn't sweeter.
Speaker 2: Honestly, we didn't put a lot of sugar in there,
Speaker 2: but I thought those cake mixes come with sugar already.
Speaker 3: I don't know kind of cake missile us because we
Speaker 3: got the person to go there first. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but it tastes good like the icent like this makes
Speaker 3: it feel like it's sweeten than what it is.
Speaker 2: So I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, and batter is going to be my
Speaker 1: new icing.
Speaker 2: Moving forward without the brac cake.
Speaker 1: So your mom sends you to New Jersey after your
Speaker 1: grandma passes, solo dolo. Now this is where I'm like,
Speaker 1: where are you going?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I mean, familiar with with who she sent me were
Speaker 3: at the time, and I'm young. But when I tell you, like,
Speaker 3: I don't think you understand, Like I literally was numb
Speaker 3: to all of it because the reason why I went
Speaker 3: is because I was staying in a group home with
Speaker 3: my best friend because his mom basically ran a group offs.
Speaker 3: I was just staying there because we could do whatever
Speaker 3: we were. You feel me, And it was just like
Speaker 3: I was just I wasn't going to school, I was skipping,
Speaker 3: so I got in trouble and see what happened. But
Speaker 3: when the cops were looking for my mom. They like
Speaker 3: I wasn't with my parents, and so well, we finally
Speaker 3: caught up where it was like either I had to
Speaker 3: live with my aunt or and so I ended up moving.
Speaker 3: I live with my aunt for a little bit, but
Speaker 3: I just kept I already got a taste of what
Speaker 3: being outside was like, and so I just liked it, right.
Speaker 3: I liked my freedom at the time, and there was
Speaker 3: no one there to leave me down the right path
Speaker 3: or up the right path, and so from when I
Speaker 3: got in trouble, but I was like when she didn't
Speaker 3: want to take on that responsibility and not be able
Speaker 3: to take care of me, And so that's why that's
Speaker 3: the real reason I ended up moving.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you got to taste for the outside. You
Speaker 1: were having all this freedom. Now were you saying freedom
Speaker 1: and the sense of because like no curfews. Are you
Speaker 1: saying that whatever.
Speaker 2: I wanted to do it as a as a twelve
Speaker 2: year old kid, Well, that's really young to have that freedom.
Speaker 3: No, No, wait fourteen, because I was in high school.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you were still doing music, but you were
Speaker 1: running the streets.
Speaker 2: I wasn't doing music at the time. I was I
Speaker 2: mean I was still singing him, so I was still
Speaker 2: I still love. Yeah, I wasn't actively. I hadn't been
Speaker 2: in one studio in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were. You weren't participating in talent shows anymore.
Speaker 2: Because I was over. In my eyes, that was over.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you moved to Jersey and you're in a
Speaker 1: group home that you're group.
Speaker 3: The group of host thing happened in Baltimore, right, And
Speaker 3: then when I moved to Jersey, that was like we
Speaker 3: pretty much getting adopted really because I never went back home.
Speaker 3: It was supposed to be for a weekend, but I
Speaker 3: never went back to Baltima, okay, right, and so that's
Speaker 3: when it turned into put.
Speaker 2: Him in a group. The group don't work out.
Speaker 3: Then when I when I was fourteen, I ended up
Speaker 3: getting signed to J Records, Clive Davis's label.
Speaker 2: Oh that's how that happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you get signed. I think I didn't tell
Speaker 1: you before that I taped to Neo and Neo had
Speaker 1: told me how he had. Now was that the record
Speaker 1: that Neo that wasn't even nice?
Speaker 2: It was like I was fifteen at this time. Okay,
Speaker 2: this was like two thousand and two, two thousand and one, right, okay,
Speaker 2: I fly to La worked with Warren Campbell.
Speaker 3: He had this song called Just a Friend that he
Speaker 3: had recorded on Usher already. They felt like the record
Speaker 3: was too young for Usher. They went with another record,
Speaker 3: and I ended up cutting Just a Friend. Shout out
Speaker 3: to Warren Campbell and Harold Lily and all my family
Speaker 3: guys that I loved that helped me understand how to
Speaker 3: tell stories.
Speaker 2: Musically.
Speaker 3: We did come on Break my Hair Just a Friend, Like,
Speaker 3: those are records that I recorded as my first project. Wow,
Speaker 3: And they were the records that introduced me to the
Speaker 3: world and I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, so all of that happened. Money Run.
Speaker 2: These peop really knew my story and where I came from. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's like I had to break the ice with
Speaker 3: them through sessions and stories.
Speaker 2: And I Bring my Hair came.
Speaker 3: About like just missing being home getting my hair braided
Speaker 3: by my little girlfriend I had, Like that was what.
Speaker 2: That's all I was about.
Speaker 1: So you get pretty much catapulted overnight. Yeah, and what's
Speaker 1: going on in your head? Mama made it. What's going on?
Speaker 1: Are you seeing money or where you seeing money? Like
Speaker 1: real money at the time, because I know I was
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 2: I was. There was a basically like a trust set
Speaker 2: up for me, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Really you were like touching the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't. But you were working absolutely, and we
Speaker 2: were working. I was on promoto, I was touring the world.
Speaker 2: And where's your mom doing all this? She was still
Speaker 2: living in Baltimore, and.
Speaker 1: She knows what's going on. She knows that you're traveling
Speaker 1: and doing all this.
Speaker 3: I think my year and my family they knew I
Speaker 3: was doing my thing, but nobody in my family was involved.
Speaker 1: Nobody was even trying to reach out at the time.
Speaker 3: There were a few instances where family members try to
Speaker 3: reach out, but it was done.
Speaker 2: It wasn't rockets my mind.
Speaker 1: Mike, can you give me an example.
Speaker 2: I'm about to do. I'm not gonna I'm gonna give.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to, like figet it I wanted to
Speaker 2: give you.
Speaker 3: So that was an essens where one of my cousins
Speaker 3: came up to Jersey with my mom and it turned
Speaker 3: into like some real like yo, let us in or
Speaker 3: else type.
Speaker 2: Energy you feel me. They didn't understand the music you
Speaker 2: feel me, and.
Speaker 3: That that ended up being whatever I don't know if
Speaker 3: something like change had happened, but that disappeared, and I
Speaker 3: kind of was just like go with the riot because
Speaker 3: I didn't know as a kid what was going on.
Speaker 3: I didn't understand how things were set up.
Speaker 1: I was then you probably were trying to like mess
Speaker 1: it up either, right, I would imagine I was. I
Speaker 1: was an autopilot still from your grandma, just in life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like imagine just like moving around so much and
Speaker 3: not understanding where you're going and not understanding the purpose
Speaker 3: behind everything. But I will say this, my grandmother on
Speaker 3: her deathbed Northwest Hospital, she told me, she said.
Speaker 2: This journey's gonna get really hard for you.
Speaker 3: But she said your deskline for greatness in her own words,
Speaker 3: but she said, your destline for greatness. Never give up.
Speaker 3: I'm always with you, never give up.
Speaker 2: And to this day, I.
Speaker 3: Literally feel her with me everywhere, like it's a thing
Speaker 3: where it's like no, I've gone through so many teams,
Speaker 3: so many labels, so many and my own independent.
Speaker 2: Label now like I do all my own business.
Speaker 3: Now, I understand the business very well, good like life
Speaker 3: is good.
Speaker 2: But getting to this.
Speaker 3: Point, every point in my life through the the belly
Speaker 3: of the devil and the belly of the beast. I
Speaker 3: always felt her walking with me, So I was I
Speaker 3: never was a fearful kid, like I was never even
Speaker 3: when I was moving around and I moved it I
Speaker 3: was alone, but I always felt that with me, So
Speaker 3: I never was like scared of anything.
Speaker 2: Never scared.
Speaker 1: But the fact that you're acknowledging like walking through the
Speaker 1: belly of the devil, it's gonna make me wonder.
Speaker 2: The belly of the beast.
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, yeah, the belly of the beast. And now
Speaker 1: I have to ask, like, can you share an experience
Speaker 1: of what a belly of the beast walking through that is? Like,
Speaker 1: can you give me an exact, actual example of like
Speaker 1: the hardest time.
Speaker 3: I would say this, when you are a person that
Speaker 3: goes against the grain and you think for yourself and
Speaker 3: you don't allow the energies around you to consume you
Speaker 3: and your soul, then you have to face certain challenges.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to say exactly what because it's
Speaker 3: so many different, but it's really like when things are
Speaker 3: trying to condense your light through pulling access from you,
Speaker 3: or taking away your voice, blackballing you, or like putting
Speaker 3: you in a position where it's so much harder for
Speaker 3: you to get to the next step or you push
Speaker 3: through anyway. Yeah, but you still also.
Speaker 2: Keep your composure, your integrity, keep your your your life.
Speaker 3: You know, there were times where it got really dark
Speaker 3: for me, you know, after having huge success in stepping
Speaker 3: away from music because of what I was going through personally,
Speaker 3: you know, and when I moved back to Boston at
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, you know, when I was able to
Speaker 3: have like be an adult and move around on my own.
Speaker 2: I left Jersey and went back and this left and
Speaker 2: how how long were you in Baltimore for like four years?
Speaker 1: And this is when you're in a hiatus or the
Speaker 1: peace of your career.
Speaker 3: Let Me Love You came out in two thousands when
Speaker 3: I was like eighteen years old, So it was like
Speaker 3: right after that type of energy. But at the time,
Speaker 3: it was so much going on. There's so many people
Speaker 3: grabbing and pulling it. It was like and I was
Speaker 3: having issues with the deal I was. It was like
Speaker 3: a lot, and I just left and went back to Baltimore.
Speaker 3: And so when I went back to Baltimore, there's a
Speaker 3: whole other level of life to face because now you're
Speaker 3: you're not in my mind, I'm still here, yeah, but
Speaker 3: everybody else's mind I'm Mario. So I had to face
Speaker 3: a lot of my own demons. I got to really
Speaker 3: see who I was, meaning all the things that I escaped,
Speaker 3: but that was still there, lingering.
Speaker 2: When I moved back home. It was looking at like this, Can.
Speaker 1: You give me an actual example, like Mario.
Speaker 3: Like like where I'm from, But there's a lot of hope.
Speaker 3: It's taken out of life for a lot of people.
Speaker 3: You know, people wake up hopeless every day. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, It's fair even if you live in
Speaker 3: a nice part of.
Speaker 2: Baltimore, or like I had a playhouse downtown, like.
Speaker 3: You five minutes away from things on every block. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, You five minutes away from getting
Speaker 3: ribbed or shot or whatever. And I just never know.
Speaker 3: Because I was from there, I never looked at it
Speaker 3: like that, like I just was used to that. But
Speaker 3: I was me living in those spaces, and so I
Speaker 3: had a lot of energy coming from me from every
Speaker 3: different angle.
Speaker 2: While I would go and do a show, fans this.
Speaker 3: And this and that, I'm going back to Baltimore and
Speaker 3: so I'm living I saw myself kind of like at
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, getting into things that Mario shouldn't be
Speaker 3: getting into, you know what I'm saying, but nobody knows,
Speaker 3: like what just like dealing with the wrong people, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and just like really allow of
Speaker 3: certain energies to be around me that that I was
Speaker 3: comfortable with, but that wasn't healthy for me. And so
Speaker 3: I started my energie shows. My passion for music started
Speaker 3: doing the like you know, even though I was still
Speaker 3: putting out music, I wasn't as like it was like
Speaker 3: autopilot for me. It was like I'm doing this because
Speaker 3: of the job, not because I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I was curious to see
Speaker 1: if you ended up being like, for lack of a
Speaker 1: better word, like two personalities because you have this superstardom
Speaker 1: and then you have Mario that's coming from Baltimore that's
Speaker 1: dealing with like say family issues or you know, personal
Speaker 1: definitely trying to deal with that.
Speaker 2: I would say one hundred percent, one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: And are you writing music at the time, like throughout
Speaker 1: your car or you just singing or not just singing,
Speaker 1: but like are you because it's to me, it sounds
Speaker 1: like when you say you went numb, Like, are is
Speaker 1: there an outlet for you to express your feelings?
Speaker 3: Because I was in a major label system and it
Speaker 3: was more just about fighting that next hit.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a voice really, and so it was like.
Speaker 3: Any record it I was writing, whatever I was doing
Speaker 3: that was making me feel it was always like, ah,
Speaker 3: that's not it okay, and then oh, go work with
Speaker 3: this writer.
Speaker 2: It's just like it made me start hating the industry.
Speaker 1: I kind of like, I was like, it's actually kind
Speaker 1: of cool to hear you say that, only because you
Speaker 1: can actually see like your environment still peeking through. Even
Speaker 1: though like even.
Speaker 3: Just like I was like Bottimore, just like I was
Speaker 3: like this like R and B pop kid to everybody,
Speaker 3: but my real life it was like.
Speaker 2: Like you're like streets.
Speaker 3: It was like I was seeing so much crazy shit
Speaker 3: and it's like but I never really talked about it.
Speaker 3: I just knew I should because when I first got signed,
Speaker 3: it's like I got signed by like like the biggest
Speaker 3: execs to ever live, and so like I learned through
Speaker 3: artist development how to be perfect, yeah, how to say
Speaker 3: the right shit interviews, how to be I never really
Speaker 3: talked about my real life, No one never really knew
Speaker 3: my real life, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I know as a fan, and you literally look
Speaker 1: like the perfect cookie cutter, like you know, like you
Speaker 1: came from this little Cosby household and this.
Speaker 3: And the and it's crazy because it's like the soul
Speaker 3: in my voice told a different story. Yeah, but my
Speaker 3: image was like and it was like when I started
Speaker 3: to want to be more memes, like, it was always
Speaker 3: like no, no, And so I just stopped.
Speaker 2: I just stopped.
Speaker 3: At a certain point, I just I stopped. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to live life and be away from everything. And
Speaker 3: so that's when I'm I moved to Bottomore and that
Speaker 3: probably the stopping part probably happened between like the ages
Speaker 3: like twenty three and twenty seven. So I moved to
Speaker 3: LA and I started a whole other spiritual journey. I
Speaker 3: went through something that in Baltimore. I went to it
Speaker 3: through a situation with my mom and it was it
Speaker 3: came out news but it was obviously it was fixed
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff, like.
Speaker 2: And after that, I was like, I'm not letting, I'm not.
Speaker 3: It was like I would come home and like at
Speaker 3: the time she had a spot and spot on the
Speaker 3: spot and I would go over.
Speaker 2: There sometimes and then be like random niggas and I
Speaker 2: was like she being in the bathroom doing what she do,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It got to the point where I started becoming her
Speaker 3: protector and I was put my life in danger.
Speaker 2: And it's a lot.
Speaker 3: It was just it was a lot of things. It
Speaker 3: was the people I was saying, it was a lot,
Speaker 3: and I just saw I won't say the devil because
Speaker 3: I don't believe in that. I believe in causing effect,
Speaker 3: and I believe in the proximity and circumstances. But these
Speaker 3: circumstances were causing the frequencies that I was attracting to
Speaker 3: get closer and closer and closer to the point where
Speaker 3: I found myself in situations that I couldn't get out
Speaker 3: of and I was like, I got to get out
Speaker 3: of here or else I'm not going.
Speaker 2: To make it. I can't. I had to leave Baltimore. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But it was everything. Everything.
Speaker 3: It was my comfort zone because it's what I knew
Speaker 3: is where I felt comfortable, and.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a place where you could
Speaker 1: kind of be yourself right without that.
Speaker 3: But it was also it also hurt me in my
Speaker 3: career at that time, because I wasn't moving around with
Speaker 3: other artists and my peers and doing certain days because.
Speaker 2: I just I just didn't. I felt I just felt
Speaker 2: that felt like it wasn't real. It wasn't for me.
Speaker 1: So how are you surviving financially?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Are you like living off?
Speaker 2: The money was good?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Like I was doing shows, I was still you feel
Speaker 3: me like the money was good.
Speaker 1: So you decide to up and leave too, and you
Speaker 1: choose of all places, you choose l A. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I have one in LA when I came.
Speaker 2: Yeah, l A. The weather. No, it's not even that,
Speaker 2: It's like, it's about what you built for. I really
Speaker 2: believe that.
Speaker 3: It's like if you if you understand no better, nowhere
Speaker 3: in the world is safe from your r dements. You
Speaker 3: can go to Bali or go somewhere. You still got
Speaker 3: to face your ship, you can't.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: And I think like places you go which just highlight
Speaker 3: things even more, yeah, and hwh like and make you
Speaker 3: become more of a alchemist in your own life. And
Speaker 3: for me, because I had practiced so much in Baltimore,
Speaker 3: moving to LA wasn't enoughing I'm moving to LA at
Speaker 3: twenty four, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, bro, I'm good. I don't want no coke.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't do that type of show. I
Speaker 3: see this shit, giring got everything. I already seen this shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that fact. I might be able to make
Speaker 3: some money off here, Like, but I ain't go ahead,
Speaker 3: like you feel me?
Speaker 2: But I didn't go that, Yeah, like I ain't you
Speaker 2: feel me?
Speaker 1: So so now you're in LA. You're you're in LA.
Speaker 1: Are you signed to a label? You're doing independent? What
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm still sign? No, I'm still signed at this time.
Speaker 2: I'm still sign.
Speaker 3: But I just wasn't actively going to the studio and
Speaker 3: I just was living my life doing whatever I wanted.
Speaker 3: I was on another jerny. I was on I was
Speaker 3: in a whole other space, you understand. Like I'm seeing
Speaker 3: a different side of life than anybody news.
Speaker 2: I'm like all.
Speaker 3: The people that in my life. My I got friends
Speaker 3: coming in and out of jail. I'm feeling exited. I'm
Speaker 3: putting like it's like it's a lot going on, like
Speaker 3: other family rbers around me like it was. But I'm
Speaker 3: also seeing like the music side of things. So it's
Speaker 3: like I'm in the middle somewhere like who am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who are you?
Speaker 1: Well, I think because you're on two different extremes, you
Speaker 1: have two completely different extremes of life kind of pulling
Speaker 1: at you right exactly so. But the one that looks
Speaker 1: good is telling you to kind of be fake.
Speaker 3: And then the one, that one that is beneficial for
Speaker 3: my finances and for maybe my opportunities in life, is
Speaker 3: telling me You're gonna have to you know, you have
Speaker 3: to to not be fakers there, but but be but
Speaker 3: sacrifice your your truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would say that, And I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes your fucking truth is not pretty, yeah, And sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta face your truth in.
Speaker 3: Order to get to your destiny and your higher self.
Speaker 3: And that's what I had. And so when I when
Speaker 3: I'm facing my truth, was also me not staying in
Speaker 3: a place where I felt like, though I'm comfortable hearing
Speaker 3: my family artists, it's taken from me. It's going to
Speaker 3: destroy me, it's going to kill me. Yeah, I had
Speaker 3: to leave. And so when I made that decision to leave,
Speaker 3: it was final. It was no like hesitance. It was
Speaker 3: like I'm out on this date. I'm leaving and So
Speaker 3: when I left, moved to La and you know, I
Speaker 3: had a new team and management and all that stuff,
Speaker 3: but I was still finding myself. I was still fighting
Speaker 3: min and I did like I did a couple of
Speaker 3: movies and then I started, I start, I became a mystic.
Speaker 3: So I started practicing, Like what's a mystic?
Speaker 2: So during that time.
Speaker 3: Of between fourteen and eighteen, I practiced Islam because it's
Speaker 3: the family move was Muslim. So I practiced Islam for
Speaker 3: four years, four and a half years, sooni, And after
Speaker 3: that I started studying just different religions. I grew up
Speaker 3: in a very Christian household, you know, Pentecostal was like,
Speaker 3: you know, all of that soul.
Speaker 2: But because I started seeing.
Speaker 3: So much, I wanted to understand why people chose trauma
Speaker 3: and why people chose to torture themselves, you know, because
Speaker 3: that's what I saw growing up, Like why why?
Speaker 2: And what is the other side look like? What does
Speaker 2: death look like? What is death? What is the devil?
Speaker 2: What is what is evil? What's like? What's what is
Speaker 2: this ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I started diving in.
Speaker 3: I would go to this I would go to this
Speaker 3: library called the melly Phall Philosophical Research Center.
Speaker 2: And he had all types of book Melly P. Hall
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 3: He was a he was amazing, but he was also
Speaker 3: a really good show and someone who shared a lot
Speaker 3: of knowledge before he died on all types of things
Speaker 3: in life.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not one of those people who
Speaker 2: are big.
Speaker 3: Onto cult, but I do study the knowledge and study
Speaker 3: things to understand where it had come from. A lot
Speaker 3: of our a lot of these calls come from ancient
Speaker 3: Egypt and all these other places that were way before
Speaker 3: the relations that were created to control humanity or created right.
Speaker 3: So in understanding that, I became a mystic right like
Speaker 3: the likes of Prince and so we study everything to
Speaker 3: understand that it's all one right.
Speaker 2: So once I did that, it just.
Speaker 3: Gave me a certain level of liberation and freedom that
Speaker 3: I never felt in my life because I had something
Speaker 3: that I understood why humans were imperfect, and I understood
Speaker 3: why the journey is yours to take and why your
Speaker 3: decisions and the proximity to your three sixty is so
Speaker 3: important to what's going to happen in your life immediately
Speaker 3: based upon also the decisions you make. And so when
Speaker 3: I started practicing these things and then also taking detoxes
Speaker 3: and like really practicing alchemy within myself. It immediately changed
Speaker 3: my mindset and I was able to start being happier, right,
Speaker 3: And I used to be very miserable and depressed and
Speaker 3: I didn't understand a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Can you just give me a definition of alchemy? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: said it like three times online.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I don't.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, alchemy is a practice of putting different resources.
Speaker 3: You can use alchemy in anything. Everything is alchomy. Food
Speaker 3: is alchemy because you're taking different minerals and i'm sorry,
Speaker 3: different ingredients and putting together to create something cause and effect.
Speaker 3: So alchemy is causing effect of movement and physics and
Speaker 3: all these different things into one.
Speaker 2: Right, and then we are alchemy. Right.
Speaker 3: The relationships is alchemy, Like how does the alchemy of
Speaker 3: your relationship work? You can also change it at any moment,
Speaker 3: So it is your will of intention that creates the
Speaker 3: actual outcome, right, based upon a course of decisions and actions, search,
Speaker 3: so forth, and so on.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious, like whenever I see someone I guess
Speaker 1: seek truth, I have to wonder, like there had to
Speaker 1: have been some some for lack of better word tipping point.
Speaker 1: That's not the words a lot of points that I
Speaker 1: there was something that had you literally take a deep
Speaker 1: dive though there had to been something that it was
Speaker 1: just like a culmination, like.
Speaker 2: A combination of everything.
Speaker 3: And I mean all of this happened before my mom
Speaker 3: even passed, Like I became an alcoeme a mystic way
Speaker 3: before my mom passed. But like I would say, seeing
Speaker 3: her on her deathbed and having an overdose, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. When I was seventeen years old, I
Speaker 3: was in Europe performance away and I came back to
Speaker 3: this and they asked me.
Speaker 2: To do I want to pull the plug? And I
Speaker 2: told her and she was in a vestable for two months. Wow.
Speaker 3: Seeing my grandmother pass away, seeing one of my friends
Speaker 3: get killed, seeing other friends get life in jail for
Speaker 3: killing people, like just so many things that being in
Speaker 3: the music industry and all of the ups and downs
Speaker 3: of it, and like understanding all of that, Like all
Speaker 3: of these things made me dive deeper and to also
Speaker 3: get to know different types of people.
Speaker 2: When I moved to LA, I met a lot of.
Speaker 3: Different people, like people in the industry. I knew people
Speaker 3: with the spiritual communities. I knew people that were healers,
Speaker 3: I knew people that work. There's a melting pot out here,
Speaker 3: you know, how it is, right, And I think this
Speaker 3: is a space because of where it lays. You know,
Speaker 3: it's also a testing ground. It's a space where both
Speaker 3: light and dark meets and you will find what you
Speaker 3: need to work on and work through, you know, here
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: open It's a lot of open minds here, and sometimes
Speaker 3: open minds don't have limits, and so you can literally.
Speaker 2: Dive into whatever frequency you want to dive into.
Speaker 1: So now with your career, the way, where where can
Speaker 1: we Where are you taking us?
Speaker 2: Real man? That's that's where are you taking us? Jude?
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that if you're doing press and
Speaker 1: you're doing you're definitely taking us something.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm really just trying to tap people into
Speaker 3: my frequency, like like you know, I don't like doing
Speaker 3: interviews within just anybody, you know, Yeah, you know, But
Speaker 3: I would say in my in my personal I'll say
Speaker 3: that my life is like multi dimensional, most of all
Speaker 3: lives are. But I'm saying speaking for myself, and so
Speaker 3: now where I'm taking myself.
Speaker 2: Is I've been focusing more on business.
Speaker 3: I've been focusing more on, uh, being more social in
Speaker 3: my business relationships and like pulling things together and just
Speaker 3: being a boss and also being a creative but mixing
Speaker 3: those two together and finding the stride like like you know,
Speaker 3: long distance runners, like finding a marathon where you're like
Speaker 3: in a stride and things are going in.
Speaker 2: The direction of your will intentions.
Speaker 3: So that's what I've been focusing on in that part
Speaker 3: of my life, bringing the right you know, people together,
Speaker 3: reaching out, working with more of my peers, and just
Speaker 3: like opening up more in that way.
Speaker 2: Because for a minute, I.
Speaker 3: Was just like I'm just doing everything in all hours
Speaker 3: is but it's like nah, Like it's a blessing to
Speaker 3: be able to work with other artists and do other things.
Speaker 3: So like in that space where I feel like God
Speaker 3: and Source wants me to go is really international affairs
Speaker 3: that have to do with and working on a lot
Speaker 3: of great then with the advancement of our community and
Speaker 3: investment of us, but are really high levels. And I'm
Speaker 3: a very creative person. I'm a generator, so I like
Speaker 3: to generate ideas and actually see them manifests. So we
Speaker 3: talk about museums, we talk about hotels, we talk about schools,
Speaker 3: we talk about and all these different things.
Speaker 2: You know that I'm working with a great group of.
Speaker 3: People in Ghana and the Middle East, and you know,
Speaker 3: all these things are gonna help where I'm from.
Speaker 2: You know, as you know, we live in America.
Speaker 3: So this system here is is it's kind of stuck
Speaker 3: because we've already it could get better. However, there's just
Speaker 3: there's just there's so many systems that would have to
Speaker 3: be reset. We don't know exactly how it's want to
Speaker 3: be reset, but I do think it is going to
Speaker 3: be reset. But I just want to be in front
Speaker 3: of it. And so it's like on a spiritual level,
Speaker 3: I've been told to put certain things in place. So
Speaker 3: that's where I'm going and it'll show. I'm gonna share
Speaker 3: a lot about what I'm doing. But musically, that's a
Speaker 3: passion of mine. I'll always do music, But my real
Speaker 3: passion is, i would say biospiritual studies and spirit psychology.
Speaker 2: I'm not a passions.
Speaker 1: I'm super interested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm dimin as a spaces to find out
Speaker 3: how to kind of merge those into like music and
Speaker 3: other experiences. That's where I'm and that I mean, I
Speaker 3: think that a lot of people are reading more or
Speaker 3: listen to podcasts more and like just really trying to
Speaker 3: understand their purpose more.
Speaker 2: And by me living my previous and.
Speaker 3: Also share my story more, I feel like it's gonna
Speaker 3: do what it needs to do if guy's gonna use me.
Speaker 1: However, I feel like, yeah, I kind of used to
Speaker 1: have the when I for me, I feel like I
Speaker 1: kind of am a little different when it comes to
Speaker 1: like I'm an entrepreneur by by nature, but I used
Speaker 1: to always be the type that like to make other
Speaker 1: field people feel comfortable. I put my light under the table,
Speaker 1: and I remember even in scripture they say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: put your light on top of the table. By you
Speaker 1: doing that, you let other people and to be more
Speaker 1: comfortable to let their life shine.
Speaker 2: What do you feel like light is? My darkness is not?
Speaker 1: No, that was real slick, That was like no.
Speaker 2: Where light is like light is because it's like okay,
Speaker 2: well you say push everything.
Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes I feel like light is a
Speaker 3: combination of everything because.
Speaker 2: It's like in order for you to be the light,
Speaker 2: you also have to be honest. You have to be
Speaker 2: true to yourself. Right, So.
Speaker 3: You don't always choose your experiences in life. You don't
Speaker 3: choose Sometimes they say, oh, you choose your prayers. But
Speaker 3: even with that being said, you still have to go
Speaker 3: through the actual maze of healing and of going through
Speaker 3: the drama and then healing whatever it is. So that darkness,
Speaker 3: as you would call it, is really just contrast. It
Speaker 3: might pain, yeah, it's contrast, right, And so all of
Speaker 3: it kind of like, I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: That there'sn't a difference between light and dark.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it's kind of it's a combination
Speaker 3: of both. And when you show up in your truth
Speaker 3: without judgment, it then feels so much like love, because
Speaker 3: non judgment towards yourself is love, right, And then that
Speaker 3: in itself feels like light because it feels like welcoming.
Speaker 3: It feels like the way yeah life feels like the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I agree.
Speaker 1: I will say I mean we'll cut and probably have
Speaker 1: to talk off book camera, but I will say this,
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting old. I'm getting older, and I'm
Speaker 1: starting to discover that finding your truth has got to
Speaker 1: be one of the hardest things you can do. And
Speaker 1: I say that because sometimes we believe our truths is
Speaker 1: a some of our actions, and I believe that sometimes
Speaker 1: some of your actions can be just a autopilot response
Speaker 1: from our previous experiences.
Speaker 2: So like you if you.
Speaker 1: Oh you got it, Okay, I don't need know like
Speaker 1: Rick's but yeah, that's how I honestly feel like the
Speaker 1: more I get older, the more I'm like, what is
Speaker 1: my truth truth? You know, because I'm a wild ball,
Speaker 1: like a wild card. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like like when I look at other people, I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that who you are?
Speaker 2: Or is that just some of your experiences?
Speaker 1: Like, you know, like real conversations and lo, I love
Speaker 1: that because I'm all for this. Yeah, I love these
Speaker 1: types of conversations.
Speaker 2: I never to I never get to have these conversations.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is amazing because it's important, and
Speaker 3: I think it's really important for us to start having
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of great people out here
Speaker 3: like having, you know, high level conversations like nineteen Keys
Speaker 3: who say, like, you know, and these it's the time
Speaker 3: for that, right, It's the time for evolution. It's the
Speaker 3: time for taking charge in your own life so that
Speaker 3: those people that are supposed to be on that journey
Speaker 3: with you. Y'all team up and y'all create, Like we're
Speaker 3: all pro creating, whether good or bad whatever, you know
Speaker 3: you we coexist in a world full of contrasts, and
Speaker 3: so at the end of the day, we got to
Speaker 3: find our tribe.
Speaker 2: That's the main goal. Music is great, entertainment is great.
Speaker 2: All of that shit is amazing. We love. It's magic, right,
Speaker 2: because we come with ideas.
Speaker 3: We're going to the studio. I was at a studio
Speaker 3: to six in the morning. We go in here, we
Speaker 3: create these ideas. Sometimes I create from spaces that are
Speaker 3: very conscious and aware, and sometimes I just create from
Speaker 3: whatever energy I'm feeling.
Speaker 2: But when I listen back, I can tell which wit
Speaker 2: is what?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, And so that's don't don't fall in love
Speaker 3: with your creation so much so that you feel like
Speaker 3: that's who you are.
Speaker 2: That's a fragment of who you are saying. And so
Speaker 2: that's what I had to learn.
Speaker 3: Also, it's like, I don't have to be attached to
Speaker 3: what people feel like is rio, So if I stay attested,
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna make me depressed because how can I
Speaker 3: have a grow like that? Right Exactly, So, I even
Speaker 3: in relationships or in friendships.
Speaker 2: I try not to fall in love with my creations.
Speaker 3: I try to experience it, try to perform it at
Speaker 3: the highest level. I can understand why it's there, and
Speaker 3: then from there I can decide, Okay, does this go
Speaker 3: with me?
Speaker 2: And how far?
Speaker 1: I feel like we're a twin twin Solis in that
Speaker 1: like I I feel like one hundred percent agree with you.
Speaker 1: So family, So we're gonna have to close out this episode.
Speaker 1: Is there where can people like keep up with you?
Speaker 1: Catch you? Are you on Instagram? So we could catch
Speaker 1: you at it at.
Speaker 3: Mario at Mario Worldwide and Mario world I don't know
Speaker 3: when this is coming out, but I'm doing Drainville Festive.
Speaker 2: You're in the North Carolina. If you're flying out for that,
Speaker 2: you want to hit some good R and B. And
Speaker 2: I'm being touring.
Speaker 3: I got a new project coming out, a new single
Speaker 3: out right now called You to Me features Todd Dolla.
Speaker 2: Another summer smash coming out soon. And yeah, music is
Speaker 2: a passion of mine. So I ain't never going nowhere,
Speaker 2: but thank you for this.
Speaker 1: This is thank you for coming on eating while broke,
Speaker 1: I was again super hyped, like made sure my calendar
Speaker 1: was eagant ready for you, so happy for you to
Speaker 1: cook everybody. You guys can check out Mario's dish in
Speaker 1: side our cookbook Eating While Broke. It will probably be
Speaker 1: our only dessert for the entire cookbook, So peace out, y'all.
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