1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Their time is up. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: Teresa already says she's never talking to them again, and 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: that makes me even sad to repeat that because I 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: have nine siblings and I know how much family means 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: to me. But I have to admit if I was 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: in Teresa's shoes, and if I saw my sibling use 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: the show to start drama, allegedly to get a buck, 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: I won't talk to them either. Stay tuned, we'll be 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: right back after these quick ads. Welcome to Reality with 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: TV and one of the most sought after executive producers 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: in reality televisions with over ten years a production experience. 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Once a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit. 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our 15 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we are 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. On this episode of Reality 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: with the King, I would get my thoughts on whether 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: or not it's time for the Gorgas. 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: To leave the Real Housewives of New Jersey. 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: I know, I know, child if that's a scandalous question, 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: but I really can't wait for you all to hear 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: my thoughts has their time on the showrunner's course. 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Hmmm, let's discuss. 24 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: But before we get into all of that, Child, I 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: talked to one of my favorite couples. 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: On reality television. 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about doctor Wendy and her fine 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: husband Eddie. Hey, happy Eddie. Yes, I talked to one 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: of my other favorite couples. Love After lock Up starts 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: Monique and Derek. Yes, Child, we are getting into love 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: at the lock Up on the podcast, I spoke to 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: them about the relationship, family issues with Derek's sisters, and more. 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Let's get into an excerpt from my interview with Monique 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: and Derek. Okay, Ray drops, Yeah, look, I ask. 35 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Bully and received. I tweeted that after watching Love After lock. 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: Up, which is my newest obsession, I said, I must 37 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: talk to Monique and Derek. 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: I love the cast. I'm biased. 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: I love Monique and Derek the most. 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm invested. I'm into it. 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm happy to report that Carlos King is talking to 42 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: the stars not only of Love After lock Up, but 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: also life after lock Up. I'm talking about the breakout stars. 44 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Monique and Derek. How y'all doing. I'm good. You look 45 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: as beautiful as ever. Monique, thank you, Derek. You look 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 1: all right too. 47 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: I told people, I said, look, Derek's very handsome, He's 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: easy on the eyes. 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: And Derek, I think you know that, don't you. 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: I appreciate everything, thank everybody for the compliments, but it's 51 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 3: all only couple of matter. 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: It's hers. 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: How does it feel to be celebrities? Is that something 54 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: that the two of you are getting used to? 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: It's definitely taking some time to get used to because 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 5: I'm a pretty quiet, reserved person. 57 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: So I don't know if I would call you quiet 58 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: and reserve money bag Monique. 59 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: No, I really am, though. 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: So it's like when people approach me on the space, 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: it's kind of like I have social anxiety. 62 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 7: It's like, what do you know? 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 6: Everybody call me cousin sister, but it's all of. 64 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: No even with me, Like, look, I have been producing 65 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: reality TV for over fifteen years. I feel like you 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: to our family because you two are so authentic when 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: it comes to living your life on the show. So, 68 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: first of all, Monique made you go on Facebook and 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: hit the tab of a pin pal penitentiary program. 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: To find love. 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 7: I actually was not searching for a pen pal. 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: I actually was just uglate and not on Facebook just scrolling, 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: you know how, like you just be nosy, just scrolling 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: on everybody page or like a news peak. So I 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: had came across like this little pin pal thing or whatever, 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 5: so I clicked on it and the first thing I 77 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 5: saw was Derek's picture, and I was more and so 78 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: attracted to what he wrote and what he said rather 79 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 5: than his pictures. And it said he was getting out 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 5: in like three months because he was still serving his 81 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: fed time. 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 7: So it took me like actually a couple of days 83 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 7: to like reach out to him. 84 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 6: So text him. 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: So, Derek, you are allowed to have a phone in prison, 86 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: because she just said she texts you. 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: No, not allowed to have a phone, but we have 88 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: our ways to text, Like it's a third party service 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: that you might be able to like get to forward pictures. 90 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: You taket a picture and they nailed the pictures to you. 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: He didn't have a sebhone in prison. It was just 92 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: how the prison system work. They had a number where 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: you can. 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: So what was it that he wrote that made you say, 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: let me give this guy an opportunity to get to 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: know me and each other better. 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 6: Basically you just. 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 5: Seemed like a really smart intelligent person. He basically was 99 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 5: looking for a friend. He didn't seem like the typical 100 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: like jail dude, Like he was basically looking for a 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 5: friend like and I was just intrigued by it. 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 6: And like, plus he was getting. 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 7: Out in a couple of months, so. 104 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 6: I was like, we can to see the word go. 105 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 4: You know, I ain't had to say much. 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: It ain't take much, didn't take much, but I said 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: said all. 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 4: The right things. 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 5: He basically you said all the right things, and I 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: felt like, you know, we would have had a good connection. 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 6: So I didn't go into it. 112 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 5: Like this, this is just going to be my man 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 5: or whatever. I'm just like, oh, he's seemed like a 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 5: pretty cool person. 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 4: Because she was she was still playing the field. 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was still saying another man, you know what 117 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying. But I wasn't getting that. 118 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: Emotional connection connection with and she'd get for me. And 119 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: I gave her. 120 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: I gave her everything that they wasn't giving it. I 121 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: was getting it to her from jail from prison. 122 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: So it's like when I first reached out to him, 123 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: it was like we was bonded and connected. 124 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: We know each other, didn't know each other as a 125 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: friend first, so it was more so it was like 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: the word she used it I love so much, was 127 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 4: she said no pressure. 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: So it was like, that's how I'm open minded. So 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: when she was saying no pressure, so it wasn't like 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm forcing a relationship or friendship or anything. It was 131 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: just like organically informed by I was just talking to 132 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: each other, getting to know each other, what she liked, 133 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: what I like, and it was just coming all together 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 3: like that. 135 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: We were just laying the foundation to what you see today. 136 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Was Monique the first woman to hit you up as 137 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: a pen pal that was not in prison, not at all. 138 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: It's plenty of other women women two And I told 139 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: her that that's the good thing about it. 140 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: I was honest about that, and she knew that. 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, you ain't the only one, and yeah, you 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: probably gonna ask when did we make it official? And 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: that's when I stopped that because it was I was 144 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: getting a lot of motions. I have motion, and she 145 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: I told her that I have motions, not just not 146 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: just bbw's either, not just I had another flavors too, shape, 147 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: the sizes, I had, all the other colors real hard 148 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: because it was the others, you know. Quote unquote, my 149 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: preference was they was hitting me up too. So I'm 150 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: just saying I gotta put out there. I gotta let 151 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: my baby know it wasn't just everybody think it was 152 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: just hurt that restout. 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: Oh, it wasn't just hurt there. 154 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 6: We know it wasn't just me. 155 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: We know, but they don't know. 156 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 6: The definitely knows. 157 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: Well. 158 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: One of the things that we want to know, Derek, 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: is the fact that your sisters made comments that Monique 160 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: was not the stereotypical type of woman that you were 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: accustomed to, and they questioned your attraction to her. So 162 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: when you talk about these other women who signed on 163 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: the pen pal penitentiary program on Facebook, what were some 164 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: of the type of women that you were dating, what 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: they look like prior. 166 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: To me being incarcerated or the ones that was reaching 167 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: out to me? 168 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, well, the one your sisters said they're used to 169 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: you being we so before you were incarcerated. 170 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: My sister's speaking on like the preference I was with 171 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: prior to me being incarcerated, that more looked like five 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: to five to like probably five a taller women, light skinned, 173 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: long hair, light oss with you know, nobody slim thick. 174 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: That's what they called them slimtik. Now that was prior 175 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: to incarceration. 176 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: Now the ones that was reaching out to me was 177 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: different shapes and size, of different nationalities because they've seen 178 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: different things in me, just like Monique. 179 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 4: It wasn't really so much my look Monique went. 180 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: You know, they attracted her. It was what I said 181 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: versus another female. She might have been attracted by my 182 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: looks and it probably been. 183 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 4: Like I would say, my preference at a time. 184 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: We kind of you know, you have sexual attraction, physical 185 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: attraction that you have emotional attraction too that spiritual attractions too, 186 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: so it'd be different when it came to the you 187 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: know the pinpol thing. 188 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: Are you sexual attracted to Monique? 189 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 4: Yes, I am. We have good sex every night. 190 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: You know it's good like she bring She balanced me 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: and I balance her because sometimes she can be reserved. 192 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: I gotta make her smile happy and people don't understand that. 193 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: And it's like Monique laugh and she having a good time. 194 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 3: She bent over like a little twerking and feel me. 195 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: That's me Monique. No, she's not really liked it, but 196 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 3: I can bring that out her because I can bring 197 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: her sexty nays out of you know, it's just you 198 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: know it would work for us. That's what worked for us. 199 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: We compliment each other. 200 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: Monique, one of the questions I had was questioning whether 201 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: or not you had any insecurities. Right, A lot of 202 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: people feel like, Monique, there's some insecurity is going on 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: with you, which is why you decided to meet the 204 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: man that you love of who was in prison. 205 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: What do you have to say for people who believe that. 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Because you are a beautiful woman, and I believe that 207 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: you can obviously GeTe the man you want to that 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: you set your heart out to, why do you feel 209 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: the need to be with the man at the time 210 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: that was in prison versus men that you were able 211 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: to physically see. 212 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 5: Well, I never understood the whole insecurity concept that people 213 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: were saying about me on the show because before I 214 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 5: met Derek, and when I met Derek, I was dating people. 215 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 5: I was dating other man, I was going out having fun, 216 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 5: living my life. I didn't feel the need to go 217 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: online and search for a men in prison because that 218 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 5: never was my intention. I just so having came across 219 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: him or whatever the case may be. Derek will tell 220 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 5: you when me and him first met, I didn't take 221 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: him serious until maybe like the first year, and like 222 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 5: he knew, I was still done on my ex at 223 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 5: the time. I was still dating, going out, having fun, 224 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't like I 225 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 5: was hard. 226 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 6: Up for a man. The only thing that I was. 227 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 5: I wouldn't even say that I was insecure about. I 228 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 5: knew Derek haven't dated any BBWs other than me, But 229 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: he reassured me all the time, like he loves me. 230 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 7: He doesn't really care. 231 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: About my size, you know. 232 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 7: So I wasn't secured about that at all. 233 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna touch on a little bit too beautiful. 234 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: I turned out of a time. Any woman wants confirmation, affirmation, 235 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,239 Speaker 3: I give it to her. And a lot of times 236 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had a type until my brother, 237 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: my brothers and sisters we went down the list of 238 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 3: my priors and it dawned on me I did have 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: a type. 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: But they knew then that was the type. 241 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 7: Back then it was nineteen tween, nineteen years old. 242 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: Now they didn't they It's gone almost a decade. 243 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: So I grew up as a man and now I 244 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: have different criteria and Monique's that criteria. 245 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 4: Talk about that too. We can talk about that. 246 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: And we will, and we will a lot of people, 247 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: including myself, we question whether or not you really want 248 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: to be with Monique because Monique appears that she pays 249 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: for everything. And one of the things that I wanted 250 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 2: to address is are you attracted to Monique physically or 251 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: are you attracted to Monique's wallet, her bank account, her savings, 252 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: her her her money market, and her CDs. 253 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: The emotional connection was first. The physical connection came after, 254 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: and then everything else that came with Monique came after that. 255 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Why is Monique spending all her money on the relationship 256 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: and it appears that you don't meet her halfway? 257 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 4: I do. That's why we still together because I do Monique. 258 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 6: Of course he does. 259 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 2: Then why did you go to the grocery store that 260 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: by Monique's plastic flowers? 261 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Then, Derek, I really didn't think Monique was going to 262 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: come after all the things that we've been through come back, 263 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: So it's like. 264 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: Spirit a moment. I got her something the count. I 265 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: can't get that the count, and I got her some 266 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 4: other things too. I made so she was happy and 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: put a small on her face too. 268 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Where do you get your money from? Derek? 269 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: I say, that. 270 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: Did you watch the episode when I came home with 271 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: some money that went to the bank with and then 272 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 3: I had I had some investment I had before I 273 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: got locked up to I had some support. 274 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: I have my family who supported me. 275 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 3: Not my sisters, you know, I had some grandparents things 276 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: like that that helped me invest my money, and some 277 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: lawyers too. 278 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 6: Like there, it came home with. 279 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: Money exactly, But you know the way the it kind 280 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: of played like a little snippet when I was in 281 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 3: the bank and deposit that was my money. It was 282 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: a snippet one thing about me. I saved my money 283 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: and I spend my money on me and her. 284 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: That's it. So that's why we're both happy as a partnership. 285 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: And that's that's that's us. 286 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Monique. Where did you get your money from? 287 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 6: I work? 288 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: I say, according to the show, it says you are 289 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: a receptionist at an animal hospital. 290 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: Is that still the case? Mm hmm. 291 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 292 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: When we see the show, Monique, we see moments of 293 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: you tapping Derek's phone. You go through his phone when 294 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: he was out to dinner once you FaceTime him and 295 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: you wanted to see the circumference of the room. And 296 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 2: that's also the other reasons why a lot of people 297 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: think you are insecure, because those appear to be behavior 298 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: of an insecure woman. 299 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: So explain to us why. 300 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: You feel the need to monitor Derek in the ways 301 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: that you do well. 302 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 6: Prior to there. 303 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 5: Getting out, we had the issue before where he wasn't 304 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 5: honest about a woman he. 305 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: Was dealing with, a woman he was dealing with while 306 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: he was in prison. 307 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So when. 308 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: I got the phone, I was just like, Okay, this 309 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 5: should be able, you know, to help me kee teps 310 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: on who he's calling, who he's. 311 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: Texting, and I mean, the only thing I said on. 312 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 5: The phone was like, share his location with me, Like 313 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 5: couples do that all the time. 314 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: But you forgot about this though. And it's come from 315 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: a good place too. She wanted to make sure I'm 316 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: out in trouble though, So I like that too. It's 317 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: like a motherly instinct one has, and she's very protective 318 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: and I understand that why she did that. You want 319 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: to know where I'm at, what I'm doing, so I can. 320 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: Stay out of prison, they out of trouble. So it's 321 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: kind of twofold. 322 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 5: Plus I was in Ohio, well, I was in Cleveland. 323 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: He was just getting out, like he really didn't know 324 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 5: his way around or whatever. If he gets lost to 325 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: be able to find him. 326 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Are you trying to like me? 327 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: Listen, big, let's let's let let's keep it all the 328 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: right brill okay, because I am a fan of Derek 329 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: and Monique and I want to see y'all together as 330 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: long as it's healthy and y'all happy. 331 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: So look, I have shared my. 332 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: Own personal experience when I was in a relationship and 333 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: I went through my guy's phone, so we all do 334 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: it now. Look, I call bullshit on well, you know, 335 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure he was safe, man like 336 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: like like for it's you die, it's you gonna die, 337 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: So let's call it what it is. 338 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Right. 339 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: Obviously, Derek has a history of being flirtatious. 340 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: And lying to you. 341 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: And for me, as somebody that has common sense, it 342 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: appears that those are contributing to you wanting to keep 343 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: tabs on him because you're not the first woman to 344 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: do it, and I don't think you should be embarrassed 345 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: about anything. 346 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: You're not the first and you want to be the last. 347 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: I even admitted Monique, as secure as I am in 348 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: other areas, I also used to do those things, so 349 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with it. But my question for you 350 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: is when you were doing that, were you hoping that 351 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: you would not catch him cheating? And that was the 352 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: intention of making sure you also kept taps on him. 353 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: Honestly, I did want to keep tags on him, and 354 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 5: also because I was looking to uproot my life to 355 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: move to Cleveland, so I just wanted to make sure 356 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: I wasn't like wasting my time. I wanted to make sure, 357 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, like I'm the only woman 358 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 5: that he's dealing with, and that was it. 359 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: She wanted all to herself, which I want her all 360 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 4: to myself, so I don't blame her. 361 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: Well, at one point you did not want her all 362 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: to yourself. You want to tend other women to be 363 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: with you, because what we saw on the show, Derek 364 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: is you cheated on Monique with several women. What made 365 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: you leave prison. You're on parole. You're trying to do right. 366 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: This woman, they committed to you. She put her own 367 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: life on hold to make sure that you had. 368 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: Something to come home to. 369 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 6: Right. 370 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: This woman made sure financially, at least in the beginning, 371 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: that you had all of your needs met right. So 372 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: for you to disrespect her in that magnitude, what was 373 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: going through your mind? 374 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: We was having like ups and downs, and I'll use 375 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: that as an excuse, you know, two step off, which 376 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: was wrong. She told me that was wrong. Even if 377 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: we had like an argument of disagreement, I shouldn't used 378 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: that as excuse and be like, you know, I can 379 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: go entertained son, because I was like, I was like 380 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: basically giving that the field of like because we have 381 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: an argument, we have a falling out, and we just 382 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: basically I was mad at each other. I use that 383 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: like I can go, I can go play, and she 384 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: telling me, all that ain't how you do it, ain't 385 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: how you go about doing that. 386 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 4: We can we can handle this. 387 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: Before it gets to that point where it could be over, 388 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 3: and it just I really didn't understand that part. 389 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: That's why we're still growing. 390 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: I'm still growing that in that aspect because before I 391 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: don't have any baby mothers. 392 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: I've never really been a serious adult relationship. 393 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: Where commitment means even if we have like a bad moment, 394 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: we still got to be faithful. 395 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I'm just honest enough to say 396 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: I didn't know that part. 397 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: How many women. Have you slept with a Monique? 398 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 4: It's been it's been more than one. 399 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Is it more than five? 400 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: It's been yeah, somewhere around there. 401 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Is it more than ten? 402 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: No? 403 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 2: Still bad though, And Monique, how did you find out 404 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: he was cheating on you with more than five women? 405 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 5: Well, the whole ten women thing last night was the 406 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: first time hearing that, So I always knew he cheated. 407 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 6: I just didn't know how many. 408 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: When you found that out, How did that make you feel? 409 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 6: I was hurt. 410 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: I was embarrassed too, because I felt like it's one 411 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 5: thing for us to go through things like in private, 412 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 5: but for him to admit that on TV, like it 413 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 5: was kind of hurtful, you know, even though like that 414 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: show it was taped like months ago, Like even though 415 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 5: we we we're growing, we're learning to get over things 416 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 5: and forgive. 417 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 6: I don't know, it just kind of like opened up 418 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 6: the one again kind of cause it was just like, Wow, at. 419 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: Least ten, I already knew you cheated, but I didn't 420 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: know you know what I'm saying to that magnitude, So 421 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 5: it was definitely hurtful. 422 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: Sure, this was just. 423 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: A taste of my interview with Monick and Derek but 424 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: listen here rain Drops. 425 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: Head over to my YouTube Channe I Know at YouTube. 426 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: Dot com slash at b Carlos King underscore to hear 427 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: more of my full interview with Bonique and Derek. 428 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: After the break, we'll get to my commentary on whether. 429 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: The Gorgas should lead the Real Housewives of New Jersey. 430 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break. 431 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 432 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: Now let's get into the Gorgas of it all. I 433 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: have a confession to make and I'm just being honest 434 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: and listen, sometimes my honesty may offend people who I love. 435 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: It is never my intention, so it's just me saying 436 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 2: my opinion. I have a podcast and look unlike other 437 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: podcasts who have hosts that are friends with reality stars. 438 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna be honest. And if you're mad in 439 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: my honesty, then you'll be mad for the day, because child, 440 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: you'll get over it tomorrow. 441 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 442 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: The reason why I haven't recapped the season is because 443 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: I feel like it's the same old, same old. Real 444 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: Housewives of New Jersey needs a refresh. I love the cast. 445 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: I've said that before. I think this cast is one 446 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: of the best. Last season of the Real Housewives of 447 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: New Jersey was an excellent season, an excellent reunion. 448 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: I love everybody on the show. 449 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: What I've been watching so far is just not grabbing 450 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: me because I feel like, even with two new ladies, 451 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: and I think Danielle and is it Rachel. Yeah, I 452 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: think they're great additions. 453 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: I do. 454 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: They could be, you know, the future of the franchise. 455 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: But the unfortunate part is there's too much inventory on 456 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: the old beef obviously, Teresa versus Melissa, and Jennifer. 457 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: Aiden versus Margaret Josephs. We've seen it. 458 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: We've seen it for so many seasons that I think 459 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: this season. 460 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm tired of it. 461 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm not as invested as I was before in it. 462 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: I think it's time for the Gorgas. 463 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: To go and hear me out. I've said this once, 464 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I am not in all caps, 465 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: n O T. I am not a Melissa Gorga hater. 466 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. 467 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: I've said it before again. I think Melissa is beautiful. 468 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 2: I thought she was great for the show at one point. 469 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: I've even used to tell Teresa my girl, like, yeah, 470 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: I know, y'all get along. 471 00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: But Teresa. 472 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: That's a producer. She's great for the show. She's interesting, 473 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: and I like, I like what she brings to the show. 474 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: Like I was always honest with Teresa, which is why 475 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: listen up some of you housewives and reality stars. Teresa 476 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: and Chary are good examples, and Kenya are good examples 477 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: of when I state my opinion, they don't get mad. 478 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: Teresa was like, I disagree with you, but whatever, Carlos, 479 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: Let's go have dinner like that. And that's why I 480 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 2: love being Teresa Judais. She she doesn't like people to 481 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: kiss her ass, despite what you guys may think. 482 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: She doesn't like that. 483 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: Teresa thrives on someone who's honest with her and because 484 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: she knows that I'm somebody who's truly her friend, I 485 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: will tell Teresa when she's right or wrong. 486 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: I told Teresa I think Melissa's great for the show. Baby, 487 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: I just do. But Child, that was years ago, and. 488 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Based on what's been happening on the show this season, 489 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: I am sick and tired of this Teresa versus Joe 490 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: and Melissa Child, we have exhausted at bar readsing Go 491 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: aspect of that relationship and the moment you thought like Okay, 492 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: they'll get along to get along, you know what I'm saying, Like, 493 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: at some point you have to just say, okay, fine, 494 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: let's move on from it. And I thought I saw 495 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: a point, maybe a couple of seasons ago, where I thought, Okay, 496 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Teresa Melissa bury the hatchet and they're going to like 497 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: get along. Boy was I wrong. And what I have 498 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 2: realized is that and look, this is my opinion. I 499 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: think Joe and Melissa know that without Teresa, they just 500 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: don't have a storyline. I never once believed for a 501 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: second that Melissa wanted to have another baby. Melissa gives 502 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: me no vacation that she wants to risk her body 503 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 2: altering again for a baby. That's my opinion. I don't 504 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: see Melissa being that person. Melissa thinks she's Jennifer Lopez, 505 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 2: and I didn't buy that storyline. I thought it was 506 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: weak and lazy, like, oh my gosh, not the stereotypical 507 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: I want to have a baby and then you never 508 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: have one. Okay, I'm over that. And then one of 509 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: Melissa's storylines was Okay, well I'm looking for my father, 510 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: which could have been very interesting, and I really enjoyed 511 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: watching that dynamic with her sisters. 512 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: And her mom. 513 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: But outside of those two things, and listen, rain Drops, 514 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 2: tell me if I'm wrong. Melissa ain't got much going 515 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: on child unless she gets into it with Teresa. And 516 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: I know what you guys are thinking. Okay, Carlos, you 517 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: are team Teresa. Look, Teresa's a friend, y'all. Listen to 518 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: my podcast. I love Jazebe Bryant. I tell you Zebe 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: Bryant when I think she's wrong. So no, that has 520 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. It has everything to do 521 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: with I am a viewer watching the show and I'm 522 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: sick and tired and exhausted of this Teresa versus Melissa. 523 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: And because Melissa and Joe don't have much going on, 524 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: that's the reason why I think it's time for them 525 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: to exist stage left. This show is not going to 526 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: survive with Joe Melissa on another season. 527 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: It's just not. It's not they listen, I listen. 528 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: I will compliment Joe and Melissa for bringing some very 529 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: interesting family storylines to the show. Joe and Melissa brought 530 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: another breath of fresh air to the show when they 531 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: first gone on. I think Joe Gorga is a great 532 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: reality star. Well, I thought that until I Child with 533 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: this episode three of this season, when Joe was facing 534 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: off with Louis at a restaurant with all the guys 535 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: and Joe Gorga gave you a good old al Pacino performance. 536 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: He was like at the head of the table, like 537 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: he's the Beyonce of the group, and he was looking 538 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: across the table at Louis, and I felt that Joe 539 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: was just trying Joe again, You're a great reality star, 540 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 2: but baby, you are a bad actor. That was something 541 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: the worst acting I've seen since Batwoman. 542 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: It was not good. And I love Halle Berry and 543 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: that's no shake to Halle Berry. 544 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 2: She won a Razzie Award for that performance, Child and 545 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: accepted it with her Oscar work. 546 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Halle. 547 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: I think that was the day I was like, I 548 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: can't watch this shit no more, like to witness Joe 549 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 2: Gorga give an al Pacino stop performance where. 550 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: He's I didn't get it. 551 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: And you could tell Lloyd was like, what are you doing? 552 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: And I even think Lloyd kept asking him like, bro, 553 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: what are you doing. Even Frank Catana, who you know 554 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: is a show pony, he was even like, Joe, you're 555 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: doing the most. 556 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if Mark. 557 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: Wahlberg is waiting to hand you a script or you 558 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: know again, it's Tyler Perry behind the scenes, give me. 559 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: You a wig to come on. 560 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: Joe Gorga gave a performance of a performance of a performance. 561 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: And I was exhausted. 562 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: I think Melissa and Joe understand that without Teresa drama, 563 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: they just are expendable, which is why they got on 564 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: the show in the first place. Again, my opinion, allegedly, 565 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: one of the things that we talked about this podcast 566 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: is how Melissa got on the show. Now, look, I'm 567 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: not going to do another deep dive into that. Listen 568 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 2: to my podcast episode with Teresa Judais. I even told 569 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: Bargaart Joseph the story, and then listen to me and 570 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: Jacqueline LaRita talk about it. My story has never changed, 571 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: neither has anybody else's. 572 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Melissa. 573 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: Again, this is no shade towards you because I don't 574 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: know you personally, and once again, I think. 575 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: You are a beautiful girl. 576 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: The issue that I think we're all are having is 577 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: the fact that I just don't think you're telling the truth. 578 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: And I think if you did, it would be fine. 579 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: The truth sell set you free. 580 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Baby. 581 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: I think if you said look, did I want to 582 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 2: get on the show. 583 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: Yes? Did I Facebook friend Carlos King? Yes? 584 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: Did I talk to the like, I think it's okay 585 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: to say it. I think if you said it, people 586 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 2: will be like, okay, because at this point you've been 587 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: off for ten years, so congratulations. But I think you 588 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 2: being upset about not acknowledging that, Melissa, you did get 589 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: on the show behind Teresa's back, allegedly whether or not 590 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: you told her you were interviewing like Melissa my story, 591 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: Teresa's story, Danielle Stoves story, Jacquelin Larita's story. 592 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: No one's story has changed, Melissa. 593 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: I think it's okay to just admit it, and I 594 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: think you will win so many people over. 595 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: If you did. 596 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are having trouble with 597 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: you because you just won't admit it. And then my 598 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: friends Tamra and Teddy on their podcast, you know, they 599 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: did a video recently and said when they had Jacqueline 600 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: Loarreta on, Melissa text Tamra and said, I'm mad and 601 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: that's not true and Jacqueline was lying. Listen, Jaquelin LaRita 602 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 2: and I almost stand ten toes down on this one. 603 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: And please quote me. 604 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: Jacqueline Loarita is a lot of things. She is not 605 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: a liar. She doesn't lie. She doesn't Jack would get 606 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: in trouble with her family members because she refused to 607 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: lie just because we're family. 608 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: You got on the show. 609 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: It's like, Melissa, it's cool, like it's fine, No one cares. 610 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: I think maybe some of the tree huggers will care, 611 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: but they don't like you anyway, so just don't. You 612 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: would never win off the tree huggers. They don't like you. 613 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: And guess what, that's fine, It's okay. What's not okay 614 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: is the way this season is shaping out to be. 615 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: I've lost interest. 616 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm not invested in the New Girls because I feel 617 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: like I'm so bombarded by the same old story in 618 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: the same old conflict. 619 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: And I really do believe. 620 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: If you remove Melissa and Joe from the equation, the 621 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: show won't have a chance of succeeding. Because look, I've 622 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: said this once and I said it again, and I'm 623 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: somebody who loves, loves loves, and they love me too. 624 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: I love Jacqueline, Dina, Caroline, Danielle. Danielle was on my 625 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: podcast too. I love all those girls, and I think 626 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: all of them will even say to you, like, look, 627 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 2: at this point, it's Teresa's show. Teresa gives so much 628 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: to the show, so much to it. Teresa, she said 629 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: to herself, she had a baby on the show. She 630 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: got divorced on the show. She is getting married remarried 631 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: on the show. She buried her parents on the show, 632 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: like she had to suffer through going to jail on 633 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 2: this show and then coming home. Teresa has given every 634 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: single piece of her life to that show. That's why 635 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: it's her show. And that doesn't dismiss Margaret and Jennifer 636 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: and Dolores. It truly doesn't. It does not. They're all great, 637 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: and I love all of those girls. Girls too. I 638 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: even think they'll say, like, look, it's fine. Teresa is 639 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: the marquee. When you think of New Jersey Housewives, you 640 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: think of Teresa. She flipped the table, and guess what, 641 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 2: that's fine. It's fine, it's fine. What isn't fine is 642 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: Melissa and Joe continuously not having anything else going on 643 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: but starting this beef with Teresa. And I'm not saying 644 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: that Teresa is always innocent, but I also think at 645 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: some point, guys, you gotta move on from it and say, 646 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: what else do we have. Teresa has eight years a 647 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: more story to tell. The Gorga's got eight minutes left 648 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: a story to tell, and that is no shade. 649 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: Baby, It's no shade. 650 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: In order for the Real Housewives of New Jersey to continue, 651 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 2: the Gorgas must leave their. 652 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Time is up. 653 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 2: Teresa already says she's never talking to them again, and 654 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 2: that makes me even sad to repeat that, because I 655 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: have nine siblings and I know how much family means 656 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: to me. But I have to admit if I was 657 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: in Teresa's shoes, and if I saw my sibling use 658 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 2: the show to start drama, allegedly to get a buck, 659 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: I won't talk to them either. So if Teresa isn't 660 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 2: talking to you guys anymore, and I believe she's not, 661 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to see Melissa having dinner with Margaret. 662 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 2: I'm bored. Margaret is great television. Margaret could have dinner 663 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: with the New Girls and gets a new drama going. 664 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: Jennifer Aiden can get some drama started. Jennifer Aiden is 665 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: a fantastic reality star. I love Margaret and Jennifer Aiden, 666 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 2: and Dolores is great for the show too. 667 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: You have two new bees that to me could have been. 668 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: Like how Portia and Kenya gone all Season five of 669 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: Atlanta Housewives and they I'm gonna handily change. 670 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: The temperature of the show. That's what this show needs. 671 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: It needs a temperature change, and that temperature is on 672 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: zero degrees with the Gorgas. 673 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: It's time to go. 674 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: It's time to leave, and maybe, just maybe, you guys 675 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 2: could be able to do other things with a network. 676 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: You guys have a podcast, but I think you all 677 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: need to join Kathy. 678 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: And Rosie and get off the show. Thank you for 679 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: listening to Reality with the King. 680 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: New episodes drop every Tuesday, Share, comment, follow, and subscribe 681 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: to Reality with the King. Wherever you get your podcast, 682 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: visit Reality withthe King dot com and be sure to 683 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: follow me at the Carlos King Underscore on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, 684 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: and yet Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get 685 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 2: all of. 686 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: My visuals, baby, my expressions. 687 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't forget tweet me your thoughts and hot 688 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 2: takes about this episode using. 689 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: The hashtag Reality with the King. 690 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: Reality with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment. 691 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 2: It is produced by Sierra Spragley Rix An executive produced 692 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: by me Carlos King, Kingdom, Rain Entertainment, Baby