1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: I might not know much, but I know this much. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: It was really good to see the Cardinals back out 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: on that field. Phase three of OTA's we're talking offense 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: and defense both out there together, and we're going to 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: talk about who Connor, who's been winning the off season? 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Who needs to pick it up? Because remember, you can't 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: win a job, but you can lose ground, and the 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: competition level has never been higher. Here in year three 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: of JG and Manti asin Ford all the above straight ahead, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: it is Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighty seven, and 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: it starts now. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 14 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 16 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: dot com slash podcast. 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: He's in a ten half of five days in again 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: some more hurry magic. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: Whow here's Paul calvcright. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: We are most definitely not Craig Riolu who decided to 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: put the voluntary into voluntary offseason workout. Craig Griolu, Aaron Rodgers. 22 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: You know, the list really starts there in that order 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Paul Calvc, Danny Sireg, Zach Gershman. Because it takes three 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: to replace Craig Rila. 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: You just put Craig in the same bucket as Aaron Rodgers. 26 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to profile these norcl guys, 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: but you know they sort of share some of that 28 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: same mentality, the lack of off season commitment. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: It really it goes for those guys. 30 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: Craig told us he was going to Europe. Are you 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: saying maybe he's in a cave somewhere. 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: I think it could be a darkness. 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 4: Retreat, although we do know Craig has his phone because 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: he is staying on Twitter. 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: Well, that's where the light comes from. It's the reflection 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 5: of the screen. 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: I have to raise my game here. I mean the 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: level of knowledge already right now. So okay, I'm gonna come. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna come hard and heavy right here. Do you 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: you know where the Darkness Retreat took place? Do you 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: know the setting? The sight of the Darkness Retreat? Because 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: it is a year round I don't if you use 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: the word resort, but you can go and get your 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: own darkness retreat as a civilian. 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: I think it's just pretty dark. I don't know where it's. 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: At Ashland, Oregon, Southern Oregon, right across the border, just 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: south of med for Oregon. I know because I lived 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: there for almost two years my first job out of school. 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: So there you go. Maybe I'm guilty by association. 50 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: How many darkness retreats did you do then? And there's 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 5: can't immerse yourself in the culture without taking part in it. 52 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 2: There's thankfully it didn't exist back then, but they did 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: have the Shakespeare Festival. So the two of you, you 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: need to get cultured up. Okay, Danny does getting cultured. 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: You guys need to get cultured up in the Shakespeare Festival. 56 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: Google it up Ashland, Oregon. Why am I talking about 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: that one? We actually have a lot to talk about 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: at OTA's let's see here takeaways. 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Let's go around the horn, Zach. 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: You are out there, from what you saw and what 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: you can report on. What can you tell us? 62 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 5: Of course that's the tricky part is what you can 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: on it. So the first twenty twenty five minutes of practice, 64 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 5: and once again to echo how you started this, Paul, 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: it's voluntary. So there were a handful of guys that 66 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: were not there. Josh Sweat was not there. Kalai's campbell 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 5: was not there, Yell Defroholt was not there. Dalvin Thomlinson 68 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: and a handful of others. Walter nolan Id, the Cardinal's 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 5: first round pick, was working off to the side without 70 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 5: a helmet. He was with some trainers. But what I 71 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: can say based off what we saw in the field, 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 5: Darius Robinson looks fast at that defensive line room. That's 73 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: typically where we're positioned, is right underneath that tree, right 74 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: by the defensive lineman. And Justin Jones was out there. 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 5: He looked really solid. But coach Deebo I think was 76 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: the biggest winner because of just how active he is, 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: how loud he is, how vocal he is with the players. 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: He had his cleats on and it was definitely in 79 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: the trenches with him. 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: A different vibe close up washing the defensive line practice. 81 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: Something that was interesting right in front of us, excuse me, 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: was defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis spent a lot of time 83 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: with those defensive lineman. That's not to say he doesn't 84 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: normally do that, or to say that once we left 85 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: that he didn't move around by any means. However, I 86 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 4: do think that is telling of you've got a lot 87 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: of new faces, You've got some players returning who didn't 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: play a lot of games. You've got a new coach, 89 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: and the man in charge of the defense definitely was 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: keeping an eye there. Justin Jones returning from a triceps 91 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 4: injury last year. He looked good. Balone Nichols, another name 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: that was not working out with the group, was off 93 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: on the side where trainers alongside right tackle Jonah Williams. 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 4: We're at the point where you want to get excited, 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 4: but you can't get too crazy, right Like, it's exciting 96 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: when you're seeing some offensive line combinations and then you remember, okay, well, 97 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: Evan Brown, who's played left guard, was taken steps at 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: center because they didn't have their starter yield to fro 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: hold out there on the field. So you kind of 100 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: have to take everything with a grain of salt. Elijah 101 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: Jones is another name that was out on the practice field. 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: Missed his entire rookie year with a foot heel injury. 103 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: Last year. We only saw him for a few practices. 104 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: He didn't seem to be wearing any sort of brace 105 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 4: or extra gear, so that's good to see. And you 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 4: had will Johnson the rookie out there, and he looked 107 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: perfectly fine. And just for anybody who's seeing footage or whatever, 108 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: seems like Johnson already wears a sleeve on his right leg, 109 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: So if you see that in the future, doesn't seem 110 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 4: like that would be anything to get concerned about with 111 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 4: the need that he was dealing with in college. 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 113 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: I had to do a double takeway twenty eight again. 114 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Elijah Jones just because and right away you notice, man, he. 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: Is a tall corner. Yeah, it's one of the big 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: reasons they drafted him in round three year ago. He 117 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: is a legit six' two. 118 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: CORNER i was talking with him a little bit during 119 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: the offseason and he said that he Liked Marvin Harrison. 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 5: Junior Like Darius, robinson has lived in the facility. Rehabbing 121 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 5: he came back for a few practices last season and 122 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: then ultimately they kept him on injured reserve after they 123 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: opened up his, window not activating him to the fifty 124 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: three man. Roster but he looks good out. There and 125 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: right now that cornerback room with Seaw Murphy bunting being 126 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 5: officially placed on THE nfi, list because that's happening. Now 127 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: you have to rely on your quote unquote veteran cornerbacks 128 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 5: in the. Room being the third year guys With Garrett, 129 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: Williams Darlink, thomas you have to expect so much From 130 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 5: max mellan. In even Though Elijah jones was not out 131 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: on the, field he was still in the. Building he 132 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: was still around the guys to understand what those meeting 133 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: rooms are. Like, now it's just going to be a 134 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: little bit of a different. Approach paul with. 135 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: It and, Look Max, MELTON i thought had a strong 136 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 2: finish to last. Year really curious to see what he looks, 137 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: like what sort of reviews he gets from the. COACHES 138 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: i ASKED jg earlier today just about his assessment Will 139 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: johnson being a perfect scheme, fit and he just mentioned 140 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: some of the things that he. 141 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Did he knew. 142 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: What Drew stan echo this as well on a Recent 143 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Red sea. Report Wink martindale is defensive coordinator In. Michigan 144 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: is known for HAVING nfl level defensive schemes really, advanced really, 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: complicated and if you're able to master, that and it 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: was his second or third defensive coordinator in His michigan, 147 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: career then obviously he has THE iq and he has 148 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: the football, Knowledge SO i think all these things give 149 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: him an, advantage enhance the odds That Will johnson can 150 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: compete from day one to be cornerback, one especially now 151 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: in the absence OF smb for the rest of the. 152 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Year SO i think all those things, combine the cornerback 153 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: room is just wide open right. NOW i think in 154 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: terms of a, Competition Starling thomas is an absolute, fighter 155 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: just the fact you know he started twenty two games 156 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: the last two. Years and THEN i mean there's a 157 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: legit half dozen corners WHO i think from the outside 158 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: to the, inside can make a run at a starting 159 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: spot by the time you get at the end of, 160 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: camp And i'm guessing all those corners are going to 161 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: get some significant snaps in the three preseason, games. 162 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 4: Probably more so than we have seen in previous. Years 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 4: it's interesting because where we stand right now is it's 164 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: hard for you to argue or feel like you wouldn't 165 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: have a final roster that would Have, Johnson thomas and. 166 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: Melt you can only carry so many, cornerbacks especially with 167 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: the discussion we've had throughout the offseason of are they 168 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: going to carry a few extra defensive linemen given the 169 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 4: bodies and the money they have put into that position 170 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: room this. Offseason you have so much youth and still 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: talent in the cornerbacks room THAT i wonder are you 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: going to keep all three Of, Johnson melton And thomas 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 4: because you do want to absolutely keep the best players 174 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: you have on this team and players that are going 175 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: to give you the best chance to win. Games you've 176 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: also allocated a lot of draft capital and money and 177 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: attention into some of these younger cornerbacks that you would 178 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: imagine The cardinals want to. Develop so that is going 179 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: to be an exciting position battle of where is somebody 180 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: like Key Trew clark in his? Progression what do The 181 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: cardinals have In Elijah jones and considering he didn't see 182 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 4: the field at all as a rookie and adjusting, there 183 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: and you bring in these players to have a room 184 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: right now with eleven guys in that, Room it's it's 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: exciting because the opportunity is there to fight for a. 186 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Spot so It's phase. 187 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: Three offense and defense can be on the field, together 188 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: but dal shalt not compete one on one against each. 189 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: Other not yet mandatory mini. Camp you can still go 190 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: receivers Against DB's right and the REASON i bring that. 191 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: Up if you're play in the, trenches guess, What you're 192 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: gonna have to wait until camp to truly make an. 193 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Impression but if you're a corner or a receiver and 194 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: you get the mandatory mini, camp, yeah there's gonna be 195 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: opinions formed by the. Coaches can you stick with the? 196 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: Receiver If Max milton is getting out there and he's 197 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: Blanketing Marvin Harrison, junior or If Will johnson is keeping 198 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: up with A Greg dortch in, space then you're gonna 199 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: make a positive. 200 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: Impression And Jonathan gannon said that this time of year 201 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: it's funny because you want to see who has the 202 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: advantage of the offense or the, defense And Jonathan gannet's 203 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: has a defensive. Guy you always feel like this time 204 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 5: of year that the offense has the advantage because when 205 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 5: you're doing these, drills you don't have the defensive backs 206 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 5: that are gonna be pressing the wide. Receivers you can't 207 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 5: fully get that until you put the pads on at 208 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 5: training camp and you're out At State Farm. Stadium same 209 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 5: thing with the offensive and defensive. Line you can only 210 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: do so much work when it comes to going against the. 211 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 5: Pads the, sleds whatever it. Is when we do get 212 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 5: out there At State Farm, stadium will definitely have a 213 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 5: better idea of what this. 214 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Is going to look. 215 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 5: Like AND i think it goes all it goes all. 216 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 5: Around it's an exciting time Because Jonathan gannon, said it's 217 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 5: the closest thing you're going to get to real football 218 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 5: as of like this point of the. Year but it's 219 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 5: an exciting time because you get to just see the 220 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 5: guys put on their, helmets be back out on the 221 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: grass running. Around you get to see the different body. 222 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 5: TYPES i, mean a guy Like Dante, stills he pointed, 223 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 5: out seem to be one of those players that lost 224 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: a lot of that body fat and looks really lean 225 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 5: but also really. 226 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Strong just all. Around it's. 227 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: Exciting i'm sounding like a handful of players right now 228 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 5: that are just echoing their. Excitement but when all is 229 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 5: said and, done it's just a matter of doing the 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: mundane details now and turning those into successful things that 231 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 5: will translate come training. 232 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: Camp it's interesting because watching the two sides of the 233 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 4: ball feels like vastly different things we are looking. For 234 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: the offense has such consistency from last year with the 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: players and the players that showed up that we're seeing 236 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 4: out on the, Field so it's a little bit different 237 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: of with the exception of maybe some interior offensive, lineman 238 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: which we're not really going to get answers this point 239 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: in the, offseason, Right Like Calvin beacham who's been playing 240 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen years isn't, here, Right those are things we're 241 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 4: gonna have to wait until training. Camp offensive line is 242 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: really the only position where you are keeping an eye 243 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: on what the depth chart could really come out to 244 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: be wide receiver a, little but the offense is more 245 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: or less set, right maybe who's going to be your BACKUP. 246 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: Qb the defense is a completely different. Story is every 247 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 4: position you can go through a battle of a veteran 248 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: or a younger player or two new veterans that have 249 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 4: been brought. In it's incredibly, exciting not to say that 250 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: it's boring watching the, offense it's just it's very different 251 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: stories of what you are looking for on both sides 252 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: of the, ball given how differ they are compared to 253 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: this time last. 254 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: Year that is where my eye immediately went on offense 255 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: was to INTERIOR o line AND i, Looked, Okay Isaiah 256 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: adams and from a, Distance i'm, like has he been 257 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: winning the off? Season what does he look? LIKE i 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: apologize in Advanced Isaia. Adams what do you look like 259 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: from the waist? Down were you in the squad? Rack 260 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: what CAN i assess from? 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: Here not? Much let me use my new phone to zoom. 262 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: In not much? Help what AM i getting over? Here 263 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: and then that's When danny elbowed me in the ribs and, 264 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: said wait a, Minute Evan brown is the center Because 265 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: yeldfrohold isn't. Here so it was kind of fifty two 266 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: card pickup on the interior. Line BUT i still think 267 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: there is going to be a, battle AND i still 268 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: Think Hayden connor is going to be evaluated and given 269 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: every opportunity to compete for a starting guard. 270 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Spot that's just. 271 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: Me you find a. Start see to, me WHEN i 272 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 4: hear that of a sixth round pick and you've got 273 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 4: veterans and you've got consistency on that offensive line for last, 274 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: YEAR i can understand if you want to say he's 275 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: fighting for a spot for backup guard guard of someone 276 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: else on this, roster or maybe if they Envisioned John 277 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 4: gaines as a guard slash, center that's where his competition 278 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 4: Is it still feels too early to commit to the 279 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: fact That Hayden, connor who we really haven't seen and 280 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: really won't get a good look At chill training, camp 281 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: is fighting for a starting. 282 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: ROLE i think that the roster that we saw in 283 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 5: the game against the offensive line roster that we saw 284 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: against The New England patriots is going to be the 285 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 5: starting roster where you have right Tackle Joanah, williams left 286 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 5: Tackle Paris Johnson, junior and then you know from the 287 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 5: from the left, side you Have Evan guard at left, 288 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 5: guard yell Defro hold at, Center Isaiah adams at right. 289 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 5: GUARD i think that that's what you hope is the, 290 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 5: case because we talk about That kannuit there were so 291 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 5: many different lineups that they had because of the injuries 292 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: that the offensive line unit. Faced if you're able to 293 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 5: build that coninuity in that, consistency that's something that's going 294 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 5: to be. Important With Joanah williams working off to the 295 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 5: side right, now you're not really going to have that 296 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 5: in terms of the all five on the offensive. Line 297 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: BUT i think it's really exciting to See Isaiah adams 298 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: at right guard because from a distance he did look really. 299 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 5: Solid it was great to See Paris Johnson junior back out. 300 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: There kind of reminds you how big he actually is 301 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: when you get to see him next to all the 302 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 5: other offense. Linemen But Hayden connor has a, shot as 303 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 5: do all The day three. Picks Cody simon has a 304 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: great opportunity to compete for that green dot. Role Denzel 305 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: burke is going to have to claw his way through 306 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: that cornerback room that we, discussed and Then Keaton. Crawford 307 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 5: he shows why special teams mean so much to This 308 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: Arizona cardinals. Team But Hayden connor is not somebody to. 309 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: Be slept on. 310 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: Something. Though to keep an eye on the fact That 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: williams was working off to the side is where is 312 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: he at in his rehab? Process that timeline not something 313 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: we will likely get an answer for from the head. Coach, 314 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 4: however as we start to get through these, offseason these 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: last handful of, workouts is that's the, question because If, 316 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: williams let's, say is not ready to, go are you 317 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: relying on the Veteran Calvin beacham or are you going 318 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: to put your trust in your faith into your draft. 319 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: Pick And Christian, jones who only saw a limited amount 320 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: of snaps near the end of last. 321 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: Season, Yeah Jonah, williams the target date Isn't july twenty 322 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: fifth or whenever the start of camp is going to. 323 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: Be It's september. Seventh it's week one In New. Orleans his, 324 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: experience he just needs to get. Healthy and To danny's, 325 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: point it's only when you get healthy that you can 326 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: truly make those gains in the weight, room get regular 327 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: season ready during your offseason. Workouts how much of his 328 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: workouts have those been curtailed because he had an earlier 329 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: injury to start the. Year, so, okay where's he? 330 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: At we don't. 331 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Know they do Have kelvin beacham Now Christian. Jones without 332 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Either beach Or Jonah, williams you Had Christian jones at right. 333 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: Tackle that's. 334 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: INTERESTING i think that room is loaded enough now Where 335 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: Christian jones is going to have To he's going to 336 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: have to show up and show out in year two 337 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: to be assured of a spot in the final fifty. 338 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: Three when you. 339 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: Draft a, guy you don't want to have to cut 340 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 5: your fifth round. Pick you, know right When september hits 341 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: when you have to trim it down to the fifty 342 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: three man, roster but you were hoping to See jones 343 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 5: was not going to start last, year regardless of the 344 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 5: injury that he. Had there was never a world where 345 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 5: he was going to be out on the field with 346 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: the fifty, three you, know starting in that case with 347 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 5: the with The Arizona cardinals. Offense but you want to 348 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 5: see what you have for him in the. Future he 349 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 5: was going to be a developmental, piece AND i think 350 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 5: from the Conversations i've had with, him he's talked about 351 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: how he's worked so much throughout the offseason and last 352 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: year was really a. Blur he had a severe foot. 353 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: Injury If i'm not, mistaken it was a lower leg, 354 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 5: injury and he had to go through a lot of 355 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: rehab and then once he got his, opportunity it was 356 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 5: in place Of Jonah williams and Then Jackson, barton who 357 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 5: also ended up getting injured last, year so he was 358 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: thrown into the. Fire AND i think something Johnathangan and, 359 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 5: said and it wasn't in relation To Christian, jones but he, 360 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: said the best way to learn is by having the, 361 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: reps and the best way to learn from those reps 362 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: is by having bad. Reps so you could actually learn 363 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 5: from those and not to say That Christian jones had 364 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: bad reps in the game against The Los Angeles rams 365 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 5: or the game against The San francisco forty nine ers 366 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 5: at the, Finale but at least he had some tape 367 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: to go off. 368 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: Of, Right let's go back to your first, impression your first. 369 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: Takeaway what was the name you, Said Darius. Robinson we 370 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: learned a few things when he met the. Media one 371 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: he went on a recruiting trip To minnesota when he 372 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: was a high, scorer and his d line coach was 373 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: actually a player for The Golden, Gophers winston D latibou dare. 374 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: The third that was. 375 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 4: Impressive, dude, again. 376 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: Coach dibo once you nail, it you don't go. 377 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: Back it's sort of like at the, combine when you 378 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: run a forty and you nail, it you don't run 379 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 2: the second. One So i'm not attempting the pronunciation, Again, 380 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: prode how about the fact that Coach debo was wearing 381 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: cleats out. There it's just his energy was a whole different. 382 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Dynamic you can see why he's a good fit Under Jonathan. 383 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: GANNETT i, mean you want, energy Coach. Debo but then 384 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: to your, Point zack About Darius robinson just in the 385 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: mundane drills are what you consider, routine everyday. Drills the 386 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: speed with which the velocity with which he was generating 387 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: and let's just say a player would goes maybe not 388 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: your mark to make the final fifty, three and then 389 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: D robin go right after. 390 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: Him it was night and. Day you don't need me 391 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: be a professional talent evaluator to see the difference for. 392 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 5: Yourself the explosiveness that you see when you Watch Darius, 393 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 5: robinson even when it is against just a, pad it 394 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 5: is truly. Remarkable and that's when you could tell the 395 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 5: difference between a first round pick and a first round 396 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 5: talent versus everybody else in that defensive line. 397 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Room just the. 398 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 5: Speed and once again we weren't able to See Walter 399 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: nolan the third out there because he was working off 400 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 5: to the side with the, trainers But i'd be very 401 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: interested to see how they line up against each, other. 402 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 5: Yep and just in terms of their, speed the quick 403 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 5: twitch that they played the game, with their. Explosiveness BUT 404 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 5: i love with Coach, debo it's not just him wearing the, 405 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: quets which we were talking about on the side, There, 406 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: paul just how. Encouraging he was as. Well there were 407 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 5: so many guys that are on that borderline if they're 408 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 5: gonna make the fifty three or if they're potentially gonna 409 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: have to get the daunting tap on the shoulder Come 410 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 5: august to say, hey go up To manias And forts 411 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 5: office and bring your iPad with you or Your Microsoft. 412 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: Surface it's so fascinating because after every single TIME i 413 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 5: think about guys Like Anthony, GOODLOW. Pj mustard For Elijah, 414 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 5: simmons after every single drill they turned back around to 415 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: Coach debo and he was automatically giving them instruction right 416 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: there on the. Field you don't have to go back 417 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 5: to the. Tape you get to have that instruction and 418 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 5: that coaching right there on the. Field and then he 419 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 5: had him do it. Again in the past you might 420 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 5: have seen him again in the back of the. Line 421 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: now he, said you're doing it, again and you're going 422 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: right after. 423 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 4: It that was the key is let's find the mistake 424 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: or WHAT i want you to, improve get a feel 425 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: for what it, is and then let's do it again 426 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: so that that's what feels comfortable for. 427 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: YOU i, think what's So i've been trying to get 428 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: at this When i've been asking questions To john again 429 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: and a handful of the players about the unique factor 430 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 5: you have with a coach coming in from college to 431 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 5: THE nfl and how they're going to be transitioning to 432 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: that position. ROOM i THINK i saw it today because 433 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: of just the way that it wasn't, instructing it was. 434 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: Coaching it was. 435 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 5: Teaching it wasn't this is what you, do go do, 436 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 5: it this is why you do. It coach deebo is 437 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: breaking it. Down And i'm sure it'd be the same 438 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: exact thing with Coach Justin frye over there in the 439 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: offensive line, room but that's where you could really see 440 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 5: the difference and the players relate to, him AND i 441 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: think it's something that's so impressive when you have a 442 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 5: coach that has no problems throwing on their. Cleats Because 443 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 5: Darius robinson, said you could tell he's going through it with, 444 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: you and that means. 445 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: Something once, Again Kalis campbell is eleven years older than 446 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Coach debo for those who weren't, Aware and as far 447 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: As Darius robinson, goes it was pointing when he told 448 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 2: the media And i'm looking at the quote, HERE i 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: jotted it down roughly that last year was quote the 450 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: hardest year of my, life but the best. 451 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Year of my. 452 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: Life in the same, year he, SAID i definitely felt the, 453 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: lowest BUT i also felt the. 454 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: Highest so obviously. 455 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: Losing his mother mid, season the injury that robbed him 456 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 2: of what thirteen games or well less than, that and 457 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: then the fact That Darius robinson was also a first 458 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: round pick after only having played high school ball two 459 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: years and then three years after, that you're a first 460 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: round pick in THE. Nfl so those highs and those, 461 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: Lows but maybe most revealing is when he said towards 462 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: the end of the interview, session he, said you know, 463 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: what in, camp my tape was, hot and my regular 464 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 2: season tape the final six games was, cool MEANING i 465 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: was proud of the tape and the film THAT i 466 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: put out In. August and then WHEN i saw at 467 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: the end of the, season wasn't quite Me AND i. 468 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: Think we'd all agree with. 469 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: That what he looked like in, CAMP i mean, EVERYONE i, 470 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: MEAN i fully expected him to be a Starter week 471 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: one Of buffalo before he went down with injury, midweek 472 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: and by the end of the year you're, like, well, 473 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: yeah he's not quite one hundred. 474 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: Percent that doesn't surprise me though by camp he had 475 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: had the rookie. Offseason he was having a lot of 476 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: good opportunities and reps throughout training camp and looked very. 477 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: Good so to then have that injury as a, rookie 478 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: that's what's. Key when he came back late in the 479 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 4: season and only played the final six, games he's not 480 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: coming back having a true foundation and experience playing in 481 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: AN nfl game and making sure that he is up 482 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 4: to speed on the playbook and the changes that have 483 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 4: been made from what he was physically doing on a 484 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: field all the way back four five months. Prior that's 485 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 4: a tough, transition and when you're talking about rookies through 486 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: a regular, season it is about that six to seven 487 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: maybe eight first games where you're, Saying, okay you've got 488 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 4: your legs under. You now you've adjusted to the speed 489 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 4: a little bit. Better let's try and see a little bit. 490 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 4: More So robinson didn't have that full. Opportunity it seems 491 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: like it's a great combination of where he is right, 492 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: now where he still has that chip on his shoulder 493 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: of wants to go out and prove he is deserving 494 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: of that first round, pick especially since he didn't have 495 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 4: a full rookie, Season but now on the other, side 496 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: he's got the, confidence he's got the, foundation and he's 497 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: also added some. Muscle so it seems like the best 498 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 4: of both. Worlds where it doesn't feel like a true 499 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 4: year two for the Defensive i'm in more year one 500 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 4: and a, Half but it sounds like mentally he's got 501 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 4: the right attitude for it and the desire to go 502 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: out and prove what he can. Do but he's got 503 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: a little bit more foundation physically in this playbook and 504 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 4: also in his. 505 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: BODY i think you hit on the keyword being. Confidence 506 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 5: when he sat there in front of the, media it 507 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: was very reminiscent of one of his first few times 508 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 5: speaking in front of the, media just the excitement that 509 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: he had talking about. Football and when you go speak 510 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 5: to him last, season he still had the smile on his. 511 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 5: Face you can that smile does not, fade but you 512 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: could tell it was it was wearing on him a little, 513 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 5: bit all the stuff that he had to go through 514 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 5: with his mom, passing with the injury that he, had 515 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: moving to a brand new, city when you're away from 516 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 5: your from your, family he, well he mentioned it maybe 517 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: three or four times during the press. Conference just his 518 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 5: upbringing being From michigan and then going To missouri in 519 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 5: your first, year. 520 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: You don't have. 521 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 5: That he wasn't able to slowly go into it because 522 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 5: he had so much happening all at. Once but when 523 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: he sat, there it was the. Confidence there was a 524 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: moment where he was talking about his, offseason playing in 525 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 5: his preparation and all the different things that he was. 526 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 5: Doing and it trotted back my memory too when he 527 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 5: had His draft night press conference and he was talking 528 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: about his routine going into a game week and just 529 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: breaking it. Down you get to see that that's not 530 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 5: just the, smile but the happiness behind it because it 531 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 5: means something to him now that he's back on the 532 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: football field and he gets to have that fresh. 533 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: Slate, yeah WHEN mani AND jg talk about looking for 534 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: players who are all ball At Darius, ROBINSON i, mean 535 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: you know that's evidence right, there That draft night breakdown 536 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 2: of his film. 537 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: Work it's. Ridiculous here's the other. 538 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 2: THING i was cleaning videot on my, phone new phone 539 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: by the, way quick, flex AND i was cleaning videout 540 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: and there. 541 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: Was a, scuffle a, kerffuffle all. 542 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: Right there was a skirmish in the dog days of 543 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: camp last, year AND i forget it was a couple 544 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: of randos who got, caught but THE d line AND 545 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: o line they came, together, okay and somebody shoved one 546 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: of THE d linemen and D rob got triggered. Instantly 547 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: and if you look and you zoom in on. 548 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: The, video and it was. Tough it was this is 549 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: my old phone, now but you zoom. In De rob 550 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: jacked the dude and just shoving them all the. WAY i, 551 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: mean when he got, Mad you're, like whoa back? 552 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: Off And i'm curious that he gets in that groove 553 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: because what did you tell the media at the end 554 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: of last. Season the first two or three games he, 555 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: played it was kind of chicken with your head cut. 556 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: Off gap integrity wasn't. 557 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: There he was. 558 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: Hyperventilating someone give him a brown bag on the. Sideline you, 559 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: know he's just a little out of his. Element he's 560 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: too calm. Down play the, game, Man your gap plays 561 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: will come to. You you don't have to seek and 562 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: destroy everything out on the. Field and then he revealed 563 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: that is And i'm looking at it. HERE i, Mean i'm, 564 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: shocked too. Bad this is audio only because if this 565 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: is a video. Podcast you'd see how poly pencil neck 566 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 2: is winning the off. Season but there was a weightlifting 567 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: term dexa. Scan then he threw out there AND i 568 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: looked this. Up dual ENERGY x ray absorbed tome of tree. 569 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: Scan it can be a valuable tool for, weightlifters providing 570 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: detailed info about body, composition including muscle, mass bone, density 571 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: and body fat. PERCENTAGE i CHECKED gpt that just for, You, 572 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: zach BECAUSE i Know google isn't a thing. Anymore and 573 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: your your demo and so his decks of scan results my, Demo, 574 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: danny he went after my gro we're off was off the, 575 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: hook and so that's. CURIOUS i gotta do some more 576 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 2: digging on the whole decks of scan, thing because that's 577 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: that's new to. 578 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Me AND i guess that sounds. 579 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 4: FUN i want to have that. Done what's my bone? 580 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: Density that's, right you go in. 581 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: There you, actually on second, thought what's that bone body fat? Percentage, 582 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: WELL i THINK i draw the line right. There actually 583 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: things you don't need to, know so, uh but think about. This, 584 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: Okay i've got a question for. You at what point 585 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: of the season give me the over? Under and when 586 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: The cardinals starting defensive line Is Dalvin thomlinson flanked By 587 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: Darius robinson And Walter nolan. 588 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: The Third. 589 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Tomlinson in the two first. ROUNDERS i say they break 590 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: that out week four against the stink And seahawks in prime. 591 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: Time that's that's your starting defensive. 592 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: LINE. O i. 593 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: LIKE i like those. Three that's the thing is this 594 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: is those two. NAMES i don't doubt Of robinson And 595 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 4: tomlinson come week one or in your, case week, four 596 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 4: having a starting. Role Walter nolan the. THIRD i just 597 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: really haven't seen. Much, yes first round pick right showed 598 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 4: great things At Ole. Miss we don't know what it 599 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: is until we're gonna hear from the head coach next. 600 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: Week at this, point he's now starting working off on 601 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: the side with the. Trainer doesn't necessarily mean it's anything, major, 602 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: right but what is the progression throughout off season in 603 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: camp going to look? Like and not only how well 604 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 4: is he? Playing how well is Kalay Is campbell? Playing 605 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 4: how well Is Dante stills OR. Lj collier Or Justin? 606 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: Jones If jones looks like the player they wanted him 607 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: to be if he had been healthy all last, Year 608 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: it's it's not just a matter of Has nolan earned 609 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 4: a starting? Role is has he earned that more than 610 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 4: the four or five other players who have been here 611 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 4: and have experienced more than they. Have it's. 612 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: Twofold it is amazing for two veteran guys who are 613 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 2: paid pretty darn good, money pretty pretty good, Money Ball 614 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: nichols And Justin, jones they're almost virtual unknowns in twenty 615 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: twenty five based on the fact they played a combined nine. 616 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: GAMES i, mean for two established free agents who were 617 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: rewarded by the team and brought into the, fold where 618 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: do they figure into the depth chart this? Year is 619 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 2: one of them even in? Jeopardy probably, not because a 620 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: guaranteed money and the salary cap consequences probably wouldn't be 621 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: worth it and wouldn't make that much sense from a financial. 622 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: Standpoint but once, again The cardinals of Broken camp each 623 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: of the last two years was six six defensive, linemen 624 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: and there are at least eight legit guys who could 625 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: be on ANY nfl. 626 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: Roster it seems likely where we stand right. Now if 627 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 4: it's reminding me of the conversation we had last year 628 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: about running, backs right and we were, saying how on 629 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 4: earth do you not keep you don't need five running? 630 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: Backs do you keep? Winning The cardinals ended up Having 631 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 4: Michael carter end up on their practice, Squad but now 632 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: the conversation has become that with defensive, line so do 633 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: The cardinals have the flexibility looking at dbi's whether that's 634 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: one less, safety one less, cornerback right it's where we 635 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: stand right. Now it's how do you only take six 636 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: defensive lineman based on who's in that? 637 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 5: Room it's it's VERY i want to go back to 638 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: something you just said, There paul About Justin jones Of 639 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: Blall nichols feeling like complete unknowns going into the, season 640 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: because that does feel like it's the case amongst us 641 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 5: as the talking. Pundits BUT i do Think johnthagannon's always 642 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: very intentional with his. Words he, doesn't you, know like 643 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: to hide things too. Much as a. Coach he was 644 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: always going to have the coach, speak you, know in 645 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 5: his back. Pocket but every single time we talk about 646 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: the defensive line, room he always brings those whose guys back. 647 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: Up he always, says don't forget about. Them AND i 648 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: think that that could be a coach defending his players 649 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 5: because he might realize that they're kind of the unknowns 650 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: in terms of the eyes of the media and the fan. 651 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 5: Base but with that being, said there was a reason 652 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: why he brought those guys in to begin. 653 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: With last. 654 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 5: Year those were the free agency splash moves of twenty twenty, 655 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: four so he saw something in. Them then back then 656 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 5: he saw something in terms of them being able to 657 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: Help ring Along Darius. Robinson nobody could ever expected twenty 658 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 5: twenty four to go the way that it did for 659 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 5: the three of. Them but with that being, SAID jg 660 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: sees something in those two. Guys it's just going to 661 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: be the the roster configuration of it. All that's what's 662 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 5: going to be, fascinating all. 663 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: Right Then Drew petsen spoke with the media AND i 664 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: went back through it real, quick and near the top 665 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: of the press, conference here Comes Zach gershman off the 666 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: top rope with a big, question big big question About 667 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison. Junior something we've talked. About finally somebody asked, It, 668 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: zach was a, man take us through THE q and THE. 669 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: A what was the? 670 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 5: QUESTION i, asked you just do well out there for 671 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: a six Second Marvin Harrison. 672 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: Junior and we've discussed this and how many different platforms 673 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: over how many different. Weeks How marvin told the media 674 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: at the end of last, season he kind of sort 675 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: of broke a string of games and then in week 676 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: seventeen and eighteen a a couple of productive Games division, 677 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: Games rams And. Niners and what Did marvin tell the. 678 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 5: Media marvin told the media that he Felt Drew petsing 679 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 5: drew up a handful of different play designs intended just for, 680 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: him and it was it was different motions that he 681 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 5: used in in the game against The Los Angeles. Rams 682 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 5: both games against The, RAMS i, mean the first one 683 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 5: against The Los Angeles rams in week, two the off schedule. 684 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Played With Kyle. 685 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 5: Murray the sixty yard touchdown that wasn't actually meant For 686 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison junior is part of the reason why his 687 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 5: stats went over the one hundred plus threshold and how 688 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 5: he got his second touchdown in that. Game but in 689 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 5: the game in week seventeen On saturday night Against La, 690 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 5: rams you got to See Marvin Harrison junior more involved 691 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 5: in the offense a lot of pre snap motions and 692 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 5: he pointed that out towards The i'm pretty sure it 693 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 5: was his exit meeting with the media that's when he 694 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: said to everybody THAT i was used a little bit. 695 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 5: Differently we haven't got to speak to offensive Cornair Drew, 696 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 5: Petsingsen SO i asked him exactly that what did he 697 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 5: notice from his times and he was saying How marvin performed, 698 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 5: well he progressed. Well but now they're going to year 699 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 5: number two and this is what the offense as a. 700 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: Whole you're able to dive deeper into. Things and that's 701 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 5: something That marvin even spoke, about how a dig rout's 702 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: no longer just a dig. Route it's looking at the defensive, 703 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 5: formation where's the safety at the, linebackers and being able 704 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: to diagnose all that while still running the, route not 705 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: just going through the motion of. 706 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: It SO i. 707 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 5: Do, expect And drew said that it's SOMETHING i would 708 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 5: likely continue to grow throughout the offseason with not Just 709 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 5: marvin but the entire offense as they're going into year 710 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 5: number three. Together but it's exciting and encouraging that they 711 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 5: started to notice something different In Marvin Harrison junior's game 712 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 5: and that they felt comfortable enough with putting more on 713 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: his plate towards the back end of the. 714 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: Season, yeah there was an analytic that came out recently 715 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: and assessed the play of receivers across the, league And 716 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior was bottom five in terms of in. 717 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 2: Motion DeAndre hopkins was near the. Bottom we know that 718 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: from his years, here so it was. Interesting and the 719 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: other Thing Drew petsen told You zach was, yes we 720 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: did see more motions towards the end of the. Year 721 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: so is that in play for the course of this. 722 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: Season is that something that they instituted they, Liked we're 723 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: gonna see a more steady die to that, Perhaps BUT 724 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: i think that is interesting put him. In but it's 725 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: on a rookie to learn all the different. Spots you 726 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: have to learn the different receiver positions and what route 727 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: you're running after different. Spots and, oh by the, way 728 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: what you see pre snap from a coverage is not 729 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: where you're gonna see post. Snap so a receiver has 730 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: to be able to read the defense just like a 731 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: quarterback in a lot of. Ways AND i think that's 732 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: What marvin was driving at when he was talking to the. 733 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 5: Media we talked about the confidence that you see When 734 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 5: Darius robinson's talking about. Football Marvin Harrison, junior you could 735 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: definitely see that as. Well in his press conference last 736 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: week when he was discussing just the amount of work 737 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: he's put in throughout the. Offseason that's another guy that 738 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 5: looks absolutely. Yoked and that's something THAT jg kind of 739 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 5: made the joke. About he, said should look at his 740 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 5: ham strings as, well which from our DISTANCE i couldn't 741 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 5: really get a good, view but he's. 742 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: A little obstructed from the wide. 743 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: Receiver JG's messed with the media when he says check 744 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: out his, hamstrings, right. 745 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: Maybe he wants just looking at the wrong. Area he's 746 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: not serious about, that, Right that is his gallows. 747 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 4: Humor, RIGHT i, mean to a certain, extent poking fun at, 748 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: it trying to not answer the. Question but maybe maybe 749 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 4: mhj's hamstrings really are as twitchy as we've been. 750 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 2: TOLD i, mean we did get a semi. Compliment he 751 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: said he'd like the pace of the press. Conference the 752 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 2: media was bringing good. Juice but then what he fired a? 753 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 2: Shot what he Say it's about? 754 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Time, yeah it's about time he's been. Waiting it only 755 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: took us three. Years. 756 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah by the, way the last question and answer From 757 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: Drew petson was interesting About Kyler murray and now they're 758 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: working in the off season With Kyler murray outside the. Pocket, 759 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 2: now not so much design, rollouts but when a play 760 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: breaks down in your escaping the pocket to extend the, 761 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: play keep your eyes. Downfield and Because Kyler, murray and 762 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: this is Something Drew petsing, SAID i think everybody agrees with. 763 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: This Kyler murray is one of those rare elite athletes 764 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 2: in THE nfl who when he does break the, pocket 765 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: good things can. Happen certain things can happen with only 766 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: a handful of guys who can pull it off. Athletically 767 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: kyler is one of those. Dudes so, now if you 768 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: can make a defense pay for bum rushing the pocket 769 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 2: and trying to get To kyler and you can get 770 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: outside that, pocket if you can increase your efficiency in 771 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: his throws and the completion percentage of when he gets 772 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: outside that, pocket Advantage. Cardinals AND i think that is 773 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: a big area where this offense takes the next. STEP i, 774 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: mean you were bottom thirty year ago in chunk, Plays 775 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: chunk pass plays your top, five and chunk run. Plays 776 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: so if you're trying to get that ball, downfield gets 777 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 2: twenty yards or more per pass, play which was hard at. 778 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 2: Time so The cardinals last, year then guess what a 779 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,479 Speaker 2: great way to do it is When Kyler murray's buying 780 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: time outside the pocket and once corners start having to 781 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: cover for four or five six, seconds forget about. 782 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 4: It personnel is not always the sole. ISSUE i will 783 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: be curious to see the more that we see players 784 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: out on the field throughout the off, season what part 785 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 4: of the passing game looks Different if it's pretty much 786 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 4: the same with who's throwing the, ball who's catching the, 787 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 4: ball and who's? Blocking is it what is being asked to? 788 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 4: Them and the routes and the? Timing is it? Communication 789 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 4: is it the play? CALLING i think you could argue 790 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 4: on combination of all three to a certain. Extent but 791 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 4: from what we heard from players and coaches at the 792 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 4: end of last season and wanting and needing more from 793 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: the passing, game and there is clear belief from the 794 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 4: top down that they have the right people because they 795 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 4: didn't make changes in the off season personnel, wise what 796 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 4: changes are going to be made so that the passing 797 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 4: game does look different and is more efficient on a consistent. 798 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 2: Basis, Okay i'll answer that at Least i'll take a 799 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 2: shot at here we, Go so in the off, Season 800 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 2: Calvic consulting disagreed with everyone's, Saying, oh we need the 801 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 2: speed receiver to take the top off and stretch of. Field, 802 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: yeah that's, great that's a luxury you don't necessarily. Need 803 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 2: cardinals have been, there had done, That Andy, ISABELLA Jj 804 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: nelson for, two A John brown who had a productive 805 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: couple of. Years i'm not Dismissing smoke because he was. 806 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: Good but what you need more desperately is more reliable 807 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: third down. Targets it can't be feast or, Famine trey 808 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: McBride or. Nothing you got. It whether It's Marvin Erson, 809 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: junior is a third down reliable, target whether It's Zay, 810 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: Jones Greg, Dortch Michael wilson, obviously you, KNOW i Think 811 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: Michael wilson's the first one to raise his hand and 812 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: volunteer for that. Role make me a third down target 813 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: with more. REGULARITY i think to that, degree you've got 814 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 2: to keep a pass, defense, honest targeting more guys and 815 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: e all that passing offense like you, Mentioned, danny especially 816 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 2: when it's thirty and you gotta have. It there's got 817 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: to be more options than Just trey. McBride because it 818 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 2: just seemed like if you didn't find number eighty, five 819 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 2: you weren't moving the. Sticks and so to, me that's 820 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: first and foremost when it comes to improving the pass. 821 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 4: Game that is good coach. Speak coach one. 822 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 5: Thing, quickly we talked about having a wide receiver that 823 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 5: could take the top. Off that is exactly What Drew. 824 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 5: Petsing he said absolutely With Marvin Harrison junior that he 825 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: feels he has the ability to do. 826 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 4: That i'm still curious if That blair is already on 827 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 4: the roster In Xavier, weaver. 828 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 5: That'd be awesome if it, is because he has the 829 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 5: skill set to do. 830 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: It could be could be. 831 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 4: Saw Some flash's last, preseason last training, camp. 832 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: And then the last game or two he. Dressed he 833 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: was on a couple of. 834 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: Targets its on a green. Bay we saw him because 835 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 4: that's When harrison had the, concussion, yep and he came 836 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 4: close to having some big. Plays all. 837 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: Right so as you wrap it up here Without Craig 838 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: gril hashtag edition by subtraction in a cave the h 839 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 2: he has no. Idea it's like being in a. Casino 840 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: he has no idea what time it isn't and he 841 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: might be there as. Well we learned That Walter nolan 842 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: brought something in the d line. Room usually guys bring 843 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: donuts or you, know maybe some fast, food some sort of, 844 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: treat maybe some. 845 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: Drinks he Brought epsom salt. 846 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 4: Bags you've Never oh my, god help he brought some. 847 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 1: Salt first, off it was dexa scan you know what 848 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: us salt. 849 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 4: Though that is. Fantastic you you have a bath and 850 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 4: you Put epsom salt. In it's supposed to. Help it's 851 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 4: supposed to help you not be a sore and to 852 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 4: help you. Relax and depending on the, scent it can 853 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 4: have different effects of what you're trying to, reach if 854 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 4: you're trying to become more, calm whatever that might. Be, 855 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: OH i love a Good epsom salt. Bath are you 856 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 4: kidding that? ONE i actually? 857 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Know? 858 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: Okay AM i not keeping up with the? Times aren't 859 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: these the toughest of the tough guys and they're they're, 860 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: there they're getting epsin salt Scented epsom salt so they. 861 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 4: Can it's about. Recovery maybe what's. 862 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: The next thing he's bringing in? CANDLES i, mean what's going? 863 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: On that's a nice combination if you're really trying. 864 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 5: To relax in the corner of that locker. Room you 865 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 5: might need a few candles after a. 866 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 2: Practice zach did did you ever have to bring anything 867 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: into The cardinals content room as a young. 868 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: GUY i don't think you. 869 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 4: DID i need to change that retroactively my smile on. 870 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: Personality, no that's not. Enough that's not going. 871 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 4: To move the needle for. 872 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 5: Us you, KNOW i like to look at, myself even 873 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 5: Though i've been called a seventh round draft pick once 874 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 5: in my. LIFE i Think i'm like the rookie that 875 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 5: doesn't need to have those responsible. 876 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 4: AND i will discuss what you can bring next. 877 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: Week, yeah that's. True the leadership. Counts i'm doing this 878 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: three years. 879 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 5: Late Now i'm going to year number three with. 880 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: This, well you, know there it's. Been we've been remissed 881 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 2: as The Leadership council and retroactively. 882 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 5: Just as all my way to a second contract at this, 883 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 5: RATE i. 884 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: Mean what's the statute of limitations for the? Irs seven? 885 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 2: Years you know you can get audited up to seven. 886 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 2: Years so that shall bring the donuts on the next 887 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: edition Of, Cardinals cover two