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Speaker 1: Early in the morning, rising through the streets. It's mortal

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Speaker 1: combat or maybe even morning combat, all right, and it's

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Speaker 1: back with a bang to take over your week. We

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Speaker 1: talk about morning's done right, combat sports all the above,

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Speaker 1: your boy Brian Campbell from CBS Sports and the State

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Speaker 1: of Combat podcast.

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Speaker 2: And no, that is not Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He is enjoying right now in Escobarian holiday in the

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Speaker 1: Nation of Columbia.

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Speaker 2: But it could be dancing with mister Brownstone for all

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Speaker 1: Chuck is all right, But to keep the GENR references going,

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Speaker 1: you used to do a little on this show, and

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Speaker 1: the little wouldn't do it, but the little got more

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Speaker 1: and more is the athletics, Chuck mindenhall the man in

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Speaker 2: I love what you're doing for us on the show, right,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Happy to be in your seat too.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, not only do we love the viewers

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Speaker 1: aggressiveness behind the comments you can comment live now. And

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Speaker 1: what do we have coming in here from the pollmation

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Speaker 1: is that Luke mindenhaller Chuck Thomass a little uh cross

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Speaker 1: Please do us that silence the holiday season and subscribe

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Keep the combat flowing. Despite me butchering the

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Speaker 1: name of the show off the top, Chuck a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: You're back in the seat for the third time. We

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Speaker 1: love to hear all right, this guy's approval rating is

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Speaker 1: insane in the MMA.

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Speaker 2: It's like like it's tough to compete gays.

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Speaker 1: You're basically looking at like Joe Silva, GSP the just

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Speaker 1: Hey, Luke's not here today, we might be able to

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Speaker 1: talk for wrestling just for a little I know you're

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Speaker 1: you're fired up for that brock kne two matchup coming

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Speaker 1: to a desert in Are you all right? All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's hit it. Let's hit it hard. Let's get into

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Speaker 1: the biggest headlines of the week, and we start in

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Speaker 1: the UFC. UFC Boston Fight Night this past weekend gave

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Speaker 1: us a light heavyweight main event with title implications as

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Speaker 1: dominic Reis scores a first round knockout a former middleweight

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Speaker 1: as Reyes did the damage, sending Widman to his fifth

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Speaker 1: but I mentioned off the top here you're not seeing

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Speaker 1: Don Reyes and in Toyot Tires commercials. This was an opportunity,

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Speaker 1: certainly after the fact, made the calls of John Jones

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Speaker 1: that you'd expect. Did we learn anything new from this performance? Though,

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Speaker 1: Chuck from the standpoint of saying he's ready, he's next

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Speaker 3: I think that's what we learned, right, is that he

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Speaker 3: is ready. I wasn't sure going into this. I thought

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Speaker 2: But I go back to that Jared Cannoneer.

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Speaker 3: When he finished Jared Cannoneer, I was like, and that

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Speaker 3: And if you need contenders in that division, it's all

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Speaker 1: You know, we didn't learn a whole lot because of

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure though, even as impressive as this this

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Speaker 1: He's taking guys down like it's a nightclub in Fort Lauderdal,

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Speaker 2: In the end, and so maybe that works in the

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Speaker 1: basically referencing Bougar Shugar in the in the bad habits

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Speaker 3: It's just like everybody mentions that, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It seems like John Jones shrugs off

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's just one of those things for

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know if he's necessary.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't strike me as a guy who's

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Speaker 2: He's reaching down. So I feel like this is kind

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Speaker 1: Even though Thiago Santos exceeded my expectations, you can argue

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Speaker 1: still think Don Race is going to be an interesting out.

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Speaker 1: He's willing to talk trash, He's willing to try to

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Speaker 2: Hey I'm in, I'm ready. Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: This is what has these flashes where he looks really good. So,

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Speaker 2: And the B side leads story to this.

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Speaker 1: Maybe even the biggest story coming out of this, though,

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Speaker 1: is the fall of Chris Widman.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: Five losses in six fights for the thirty five year old,

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Speaker 1: For the most part, you're always gonna have to go big.

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Speaker 1: These are five elite pull insid he's face. These were

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Speaker 1: it's still five of six. He did barely anything in

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Speaker 2: Do you go anywhere next? I like that?

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Speaker 2: He wants to keep fighting.

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Speaker 2: You don't always see that in UFC. No, and if

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Speaker 1: But he'd be rematching Machida and Delta, right yeah, yeah, man.

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Speaker 2: At least show his offense a little bit maybe before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even before because they are monsters, man, Like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird because you could say that UFC

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Speaker 2: Rask, he's probably getting its title shot.

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Speaker 1: And that's what happens when you become sort of an

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Speaker 1: I got that UFC one ninety nine poster in my

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Speaker 2: I think it's over. What happened? How do you explain

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was taking a ton of damage before.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely gone. I hate to see it. I'm not

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Speaker 2: To wake up a guy who's like that, Like, you

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Speaker 3: Hats off to that dude because he went in there

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Speaker 1: That second round might be the round of the year.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy who's on one of.

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Speaker 1: Those runs where all elite losses, all going for broke,

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Speaker 3: I think he's People talk about gatekeeper as a negative, right, but.

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Speaker 1: I think it was good for Yaya Rodriguez's perspective twenty

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Speaker 2: We knew that.

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Speaker 3: And have you talked to him recently, because he's a

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Speaker 1: the Korean zombie fight in Denver, the one second to

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Speaker 1: go elbow dropping up, imagine that as a turning point,

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Speaker 1: like where you would say, what would have happened if

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Speaker 1: but instead of.

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Speaker 3: Hail Mary right, like you're landing something that pivoted the

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Speaker 3: whole career, because who knows what happens if he just

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Speaker 3: loses that decision.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we look at Anderson Silva's sub of jail

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Speaker 1: Sun and as an ultimate fifth round, hail Mary with

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Speaker 1: about what a little over a minute to go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was one second left in a fight

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Speaker 2: you're gonna lose.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Chavez Meldrick Taylor in boxing with a couple

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Speaker 1: of seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: But like we never really see something like that. It's

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Speaker 2: still when it happened. I remember just sitting there like

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Speaker 2: that didn't happen. You're in disbelief that that happened.

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Speaker 3: Then you're liked, did that happen before the you know

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Speaker 3: the horn like it was bizarre to this day. Man

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Speaker 3: watch that again. It's just to this day that is

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Speaker 3: still remarkable that he did that.

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Speaker 1: All right, we want to stay with UFC Boston, but

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Speaker 1: shifts gears a little bit. Also on this undercard, we

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Speaker 1: saw the heavyweight, the former NFL lineman Greg Hardy, much maligned,

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Speaker 1: back in the cage. Another pump up opportunity, third from

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Speaker 1: the top on the card, going in there against Ben

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Speaker 1: Sosolia Microm Gonna nail that correctly. A three round unanimous

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Speaker 1: decision later turned to a no contest when it was

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Speaker 1: deemed that the inhaler Hardy use between rounds was not

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Speaker 1: pre approved by the Massachusetts State Athletic Commission. So, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: we got issues here because once again Greg Hardy.

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Speaker 2: He's like, he's like this trying to do good.

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Speaker 1: I can't seem to figure out that I shouldn't need

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Speaker 1: a downed opponent. I shouldn't take medicine that's not pre approved.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I shouldn't throw a lady on a bet of firearms.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's some things in this man's in battle

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Speaker 1: of life that he just can't get right. I'm not

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Speaker 1: expecting you to give me a long soliloquy about how

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Speaker 1: this man's soul is dark and he needs to be

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Speaker 1: removed from my TV screen for life.

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Speaker 2: But what does this.

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Speaker 1: Episode in the UFC run of Greg Hardy tell you about?

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Speaker 2: Greg? I was in the mirror all morning.

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Speaker 4: Had an after in that it's always off in the mirror,

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Speaker 4: you know, truthfully, man, I feel like he's got that

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Speaker 4: Whosamar Paul Harras saying where you're You're almost wondering if

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Speaker 4: he's if he's connecting all the dots, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he.

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Speaker 2: Just doesn't get it, or if there's something.

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Speaker 3: That goes beyond that, because I think even in like

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Speaker 3: there's a there's a tone deaf and I know this

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Speaker 3: extensively usc but there's a tone deaf kind of thing

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Speaker 3: going on. It's almost like defiance, but it's not quite.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Remember Andrew boxing, Yeah, stop punching the dude and the balls, Like,

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Speaker 1: just just stop it. Stop looking for a whale. But

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Speaker 1: for a lot of was a pattern of of maybe

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Speaker 1: some fear, maybe some some uh mental stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it is with Hardy?

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Speaker 3: Just just that particular, this particular episode, I'm it's a

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Speaker 3: little baffling because why would you even why would you

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Speaker 3: do that?

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Speaker 2: Like I just it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 3: So the down thing, like when that Crowder fight, wasn't

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Speaker 3: it when he when he got disqualified that particular when

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Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, this is a guy that they rushed

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Speaker 3: onto a big state who doesn't even understand the rules altogether.

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Speaker 2: Like he seemed like he was genuinely puzzled.

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Speaker 3: Like when that happened, was so why he was in

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Speaker 3: trouble And in this time, I felt like the same thing.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost like I feel like he's not playing

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Speaker 3: with the full deck, is what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 3: I something's something, there's a disconnect therapy, and I feel

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Speaker 3: like we're we're only at the beginning. If the USC

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Speaker 3: keeps putting him in these kind of SPOTLT gigs where

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Speaker 3: he's fighting guys, you know, whoever it is. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: matter if they're a big name or not, but he's

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Speaker 3: on these big spots on ESPN whatever. I have a

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Speaker 3: feeling we're gonna keep talking about this because it feels

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Speaker 3: like now bizarre things.

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Speaker 2: Are going to happen whenever he fights.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope we're not getting in that galot

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Speaker 1: of Tyson like Tyson Lake career run, where it's just

521
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Speaker 1: you're tuning in for this zaniness. But look, Ben Sosoli

522
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Speaker 1: was who he was. He had rocking a fantastic mullet.

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Speaker 1: The combat wombat. I don't know if he I think

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Speaker 1: you think guy would drink out of a shoe regardless

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Speaker 1: of a winter loss.

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Speaker 2: But tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Here engaging where we are on the Greg Hardy train

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Speaker 1: in terms of his evolution as a fighter. I felt like,

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Speaker 1: if there's thirty more seconds in that fight, that the

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Speaker 1: damn combat wombat seemed to figure out how to get

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Speaker 1: to that chin, and maybe the guest was empty for

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Speaker 1: Hardy did this? What did this performance tell you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, this one was I thought a setup for

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Speaker 3: him to just showcase on right Like I thought he

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Speaker 3: was supposed to go in there and to slam dunk

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Speaker 3: on this guy and get out of there, kind of

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Speaker 3: like he did with Want Adams. But that didn't happen,

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Speaker 3: which then lends you to think, like, who is he

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Speaker 3: prepared for? I wanted to see him against a guy

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Speaker 3: like Todd Duffy or something like that, a guy who's

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Speaker 3: not been around, but a name that he might be

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Speaker 3: able to compete with in that situation.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I'm not sure, man, I am not sure.

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Speaker 3: I would still I still think that the psychology behind

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Speaker 3: booking Greg Hardy from the UFC's perspective, should be to

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Speaker 3: put doubt on it so that people tune in to

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Speaker 3: see him get his ask kick because right now the

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Speaker 3: guys they're putting in there are more tailored for him

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Speaker 3: to do that, and that's not really what the public

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Speaker 3: sentiment is on.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're hitting is from the idea of marketing booking

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Speaker 1: and when you're staying in that side, it looked like

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, and we talked about this on this

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Speaker 1: show with Luke in the past, where it's like we're

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Speaker 1: frustrated that we don't know the direction they're going, or

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Speaker 1: even Greg Hardy is going, are you a hero or

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Speaker 1: a villain? Which when you going? And at times he's yes, ma'am,

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Speaker 1: and he's going in that direction. But now we have

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Speaker 1: a calculated string here, not calculated, a random sort of

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Speaker 1: string of somewhat heal villain moments in terms of the marketing,

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Speaker 1: So maybe you're right. Just embrace that side of it,

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Speaker 1: be that warrior prince where a prince of violence or

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Speaker 1: whatever the hell he's called himself, and just just be be.

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Speaker 3: Not you want to go being in his chest and

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Speaker 3: saying like I'm going to be the greatest heavyweight combat

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Speaker 3: sports athlete of all time. Then you've got to start

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Speaker 3: moving him up the you got to move him up.

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Speaker 1: That's the next question. I'm getting a little bored at

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Speaker 1: where we are now. I get why he's an up

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Speaker 1: in the Cole Maine and the third fight on the card,

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Speaker 1: but if it's going to continue to be the evolution

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Speaker 1: at this rate, which as a fighter he probably needs,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's must see. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's got that it's losing that deal.

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Speaker 3: And it's almost like, I think he's at a four

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Speaker 3: UFC fights all within about a year span. He's making

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Speaker 3: a ton of money compared to other heavyweights. It's almost

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Speaker 3: like the deal was for if he's going to fight

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Speaker 3: in the UFC, who's going to fight on these ESPN

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Speaker 3: cards He's going to you know, he's going to make

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Speaker 3: the money. This amount of money and this amount of

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Speaker 3: time and imagine how pissed off all those other heavyweights are.

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Speaker 1: Man, I gotta I gotta believe that, And I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are getting his side and saying, look,

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Speaker 1: he thought it was clear beforehand. But anyone you're talking

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Speaker 1: to referees Dana White who's been in this game a while,

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Speaker 1: or like, what the hell is that team thinking? Shades

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Speaker 1: of Strengthforce Houston twenty ten. You remember that King Mo

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Speaker 1: and kJ NS with a little oxygen Caster's there. Wow,

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Speaker 1: let's put UFC Boston to bed. But this weekend, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: we got a pair of welterweight MMA cards. What'saweight fights

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Speaker 1: leading both the Bello Tour and a UFC card that

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Speaker 1: you simply don't want to miss, can't miss. On the

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Speaker 1: Bellotore side, it's that walterweight I'll rematch with Rory McDonald

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Speaker 1: going against two time champion Douglas Lima the finals of

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Speaker 1: that Bellatour Welterweight Grand Prix. On the UFC side, you've

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Speaker 1: got Ben Askern's comeback from that five second loss to

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Speaker 1: Jorge Mosvidal in July when he faces Damian Maya in Singapore,

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Speaker 1: early morning fight, all grappling all the time.

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Speaker 2: But Chuck I want to start there in the bellatour.

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Speaker 1: I think it's two thirty two is the card this

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Speaker 1: weekend in our home senior here in our state of Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: our little backyard there.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna check that out live.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to tell the people where you are.

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Speaker 1: I mean I will not be there for this, all right,

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Speaker 1: Chuck and wake up in a tub without it, without

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Speaker 1: a key organ knowing our listeners putting all these comments

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Speaker 1: on the screen right here.

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Speaker 2: But I will say this, Chuck for me. Need to

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Speaker 2: see this fight. Can't wait to see this fight.

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Speaker 1: The first one kicked off twenty eighteen in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: It was when Rory McDonald really stepped up for the

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Speaker 1: first time in belatour. And I believe this second fight

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Speaker 1: with the promotion, yeah, I believe it was win's the

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Speaker 1: title in a five round unanimous decision. But he went

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Speaker 1: through hell and afterwards he basically said, look, this is

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Speaker 1: about the second or third most damage I've taken in

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Speaker 1: a fight.

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Speaker 2: Leg man.

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Speaker 1: We all know Douglas Lima is arguably the best kept

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Speaker 1: secret in all of MMA. He's been this final on

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Speaker 1: this walterweight turn and having gone through guys like.

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Speaker 2: MVP having done some big things.

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Speaker 1: What's your gut feeling at where we are now in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: It feels like when this flight.

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Speaker 1: First happened, that these two guys were almost completely different

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Speaker 1: products at that point.

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Speaker 3: It helped that Douglas Lima took out MVP like he did.

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Speaker 3: I thought that that was one of the cooler things

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Speaker 3: that I kept used to see that highlight a lot

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Speaker 3: that knockout. I think that might have jumped his stock

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Speaker 3: a little bit because very soft spoken guy.

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Speaker 2: You know this, You've talked to him.

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult to get a guy like that more

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Speaker 3: shine because they don't help themselves. He's more of just

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Speaker 3: to put me on the casion I'll win you over

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Speaker 3: with my fighting, and I'm sold that way.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the bubble. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's fun to watch that guy fight.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He is, like you mentioned, he is a best kept

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Speaker 3: secret Bellotsi's a Bellatoor guy throw and through, which I like,

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Speaker 3: you know, they don't have a ton of guys who

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Speaker 3: are just you associate only with Bellator. He's one of

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Speaker 3: their good ones that I really think that they should

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Speaker 3: be marketing more.

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Speaker 2: The hard way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's back from lost as well. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: just to me this fight. I know we talked a

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Speaker 3: little bit about this before, but when I was watching

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Speaker 3: that first fight live, it felt like you were watching

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Speaker 3: something fairly epic for a Belatoor fight. I was sitting

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Speaker 3: there like, man, this is crazy. I hope we get

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Speaker 3: anything like that again. I hope we kind of get

658
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Speaker 3: that because Rory McDonald will only sealed the deal in

659
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Speaker 3: the fifth round, right, like getting that takedown in.

660
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Speaker 1: The Yeah, and the fight scene was seemingly it that

661
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Speaker 1: whole final round.

662
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: I'd subtle.

663
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Speaker 3: I don't want those guys to take a ton of damage,

664
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Speaker 3: especially Rory McDonald's been through some wars. But I'm like,

665
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: if we get anything like that first fight, man, that

666
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 3: that's going to be fun.

667
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Speaker 1: I think when you look at this tournament, and in

668
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: kudos to Belatur, when they've rolled out the heavyweight grand prenaw,

669
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Speaker 1: this welterweight one, they got the sixteen man featherweight one

670
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Speaker 1: coming at us.

671
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: We've gotten great fights, we've gotten great matchups, we've gotten

672
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 2: great results.

673
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Speaker 1: If you're Scott Cocher and company and you're looking at

674
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Speaker 1: the tournament bracket beforehand and you're gonna have Douglas Lem

675
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: and Roy McDonald, and it's going to be a rematch.

676
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: Of that great title fight. You're gonna be super happy.

677
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: I felt in the moment watching that first one in

678
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Speaker 1: January twenty eighteen that it was a fight of the

679
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Speaker 1: Year contender that was brutal. Rewatched the second time wasn't

680
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Speaker 1: as maybe dramatic I thought, but it was grueling and

681
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: it was top level stuff.

682
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Speaker 2: Here. I think we all remember Rory McDonald's left leg.

683
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure he remembers it when he was growing an

684
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: object coming out of his shin right there.

685
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: That poor guy has been through so many weird Here's.

686
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: The deal, though, Rory used his wrestling so smart in

687
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: that fight to anytime he was in danger on the feet,

688
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: anytime Douglas Lean was picking him apart with those big

689
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: time kicks, he could take it to the ground, he

690
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: could rest, he could control. He ends up getting the

691
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: edge on the score cards. A lot's happened for Rory

692
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: since that fight, and we have to be honest about this. Yes,

693
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: seems ill advised that he moved up for the middleway

694
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: tuttle against Musasi, got his lunch handed to him. Yeah,

695
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: has that fight with John Fitch that ends up being

696
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: a draw. Rory gets the advancement because he's the defending champion,

697
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: but he didn't look good, he didn't fight good, and

698
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: we all know, of course, the post fight interview where

699
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: he questioned whether he still Hasard mentioned his deepening Christian faith.

700
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: So nice bounce back against Neman Gracie. But I didn't

701
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: see the Red King. I didn't see that killer and Chuck,

702
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: you need to be that guy or Douglas.

703
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: Lima's gonna figure you out.

704
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: If I'm a betting man, Lima's the picker, right if

705
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: given all that what you just mentioned, that's exactly what

706
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: you want to know when you're handicapping a fight like this.

707
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sure where Rory McDonald's head is at this point.

708
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: I know he's fulfilling what he's supposed to do, but

709
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: I'm not sure how much he wants to be there.

710
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: I feel like that that's the subplot of this whole thing.

711
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: He's navigated the field. He probably should beat those guys

712
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: you know, to get here, But now he's in the spot.

713
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 3: You're like, if he doesn't dig into that, into that

714
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: reserve that we knew from before that kind of sadistic,

715
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: crazy psycho killer due that he was.

716
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: I don't think he wins his fight.

717
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. Lima's certainly gonna have to keep

718
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: the fight off of the ground. He's gonna have to

719
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: be able to dictate the terms of it. So much

720
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: has changed lima stock only going up. I mean, you

721
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: can make the argument that he's the best fighter in

722
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: Delatera pound for pound right now. I'm sure Pipole will

723
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: not want to hear that conversation, but.

724
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: You could make that. Yeah, for sure, he can certainly

725
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: make that argument.

726
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: This is the one hew the people flying in with

727
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: these comments Pantheon Moon, Hey, Showtime, put the Morning Combat

728
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: coffee mugs in your damn store?

729
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Wow?

730
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: Wow, what loser told you not to have the those

731
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: mugs in the store? Fire that moron immediately. That moron

732
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: is our producer, Jay. I would like to speaking if

733
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: anyone from Showtime has listeners, Can we get some damn merch?

734
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I love the mug, but can I outfit my kids

735
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: in a Morning Combat hoodie? Can I open the show

736
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and call it Mortal Kombat again? Oh that's a regretful

737
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: moment there, But thank you listeners. For jumping in.

738
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: That's not the only walters wort this weekend.

739
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: And by why Beltsworth got back to back cards Friday

740
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: and Saturday, Connecticut, You're gonna get a different bel To

741
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: or remaging Frank Mire in Big Country excited, right Nelson?

742
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: Oh, I see we the people, Jake Hager, everything that

743
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: welter final is.

744
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: That's the option.

745
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

746
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: As Jake Haeger once said, I'm I'll flip it. Though

747
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm not rock hard with emotion. I do not have

748
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: a phoner at the moment. I do need to see

749
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: though this walterweight fight I mentioned Saturday morning on the

750
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: East Coast time, when the UFC invade Singapore for a

751
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: fight night, it's Ben Askrin, It's Damian Maya in that

752
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: walterweight main event.

753
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Askun's got some explaining to do.

754
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: Chuck five second loss to mosfeed all the most viral, ridiculous,

755
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: dramatic knockout that we've ever seen. What kind of danger

756
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: is Ben asking the brand in of taking an l

757
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: here when you consider, yes, he beat Robbie Lawler, he

758
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: persevered in that fight, but that's a wacky fight with

759
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: a weird editing. Hear it is the right way to

760
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: say it, and then he never got out of the

761
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: blocks against Rhemozos, so we never really got to know

762
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: what was that fight gonna look like. Damian Maya is

763
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: the perfect opponent right now for this for sure, what

764
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: happens if he takes a heart ele of though I've

765
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: taken a lot of l's in my life, I'm sure

766
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: that surprises nobody.

767
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Speaker 2: I'm back right here. Can he come back out?

768
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know about this one,

769
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: because if he loses to Maya, I feel like any

770
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: of the vitality that he had, or the relevancy, irrelevance

771
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: of coming in undefeated, that was part of it, right.

772
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: It was like this guy who didn't get along with

773
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 3: Dana White, he was undefeated. He's coming over the partitions.

774
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: Now he's gonna face these UFC come to a lot

775
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: of that starts to go away, it starts to road.

776
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: It already has with that five second knockout. So I

777
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: feel like this is a big moment for him if

778
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: he's going to remain into that conversation. We know how

779
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: big is just from the evidence of where Ma's it

780
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: all is after doing that.

781
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Speaker 2: To Ben Askron.

782
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: It was only because he was Ben Askron that Masvidal

783
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: gets into this big fight at Madison Square Garden the point,

784
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: so he has that still. I think he has to

785
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: He's going to have to keep it. But he takes

786
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: that l I'm not even sure he would want to continue.

787
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: I feel like he might might just be like, I'm done.

788
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: I want to get into his mental makeup in a

789
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: second here.

790
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Speaker 1: But as things stand right now today, Tuesday, October twenty second,

791
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, as we do this thirty PM, as we

792
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: do this special edition on Tuesday this week, this week only,

793
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Speaker 1: by the way, who has won that trade? Demitrius Johnson

794
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: to One Championship Ben Astron coming back this way? Is

795
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: it a wait and see for Saturday night?

796
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a wait and see.

797
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: But I think you still got a win win situation, right,

798
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I feel like Demetrius Johnson is getting

799
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: everything he probably wanted. He showcased very well again in

800
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: his last fight, So I feel like One Championship is

801
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: getting what they wanted. They weren't going to get any

802
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: more fights out of Ben Askron, and I feel like

803
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: the UFC obviously just built a main event on a

804
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 3: pay per view based on Masvidal over the thing we

805
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: just talk about by beating Askern so I feel like

806
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: they're getting all of the stuff that they wanted and

807
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: they're monetizing it and all that. So if you're just

808
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: talking about the promotions, I feel like it's it's it's

809
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: a win win for those times, right.

810
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Big fight for Askrin, big opportunity to show his mental toughness.

811
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: When you endure a loss this badly, this devastating, this embarrassing,

812
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: if you will, and it was, you certainly are worried

813
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: from this, eat a lot of crow. You're certainly worried

814
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: from this side. How he responds to that, I'll say

815
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: his words after have been strong, him coming out and saying,

816
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: look like I didn't suffer lingering damage from this. I

817
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: sort of just woke up and didn't know what happened.

818
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I sort of got lucky from that. I'm fairly confident

819
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: from that standpoint that Askrin has the mental toughness to

820
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: be able to dodge this point, to.

821
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: Absorb and come back from this.

822
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: If it comes down to simply nothing lingering from the past,

823
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: we start fresh against Damian Maya. I think this is

824
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: a magic I think he could and should win how

825
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: much you think though, Maya's got left in that tank,

826
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: because every time I want to write them off.

827
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to write them off after Abu. Every time

828
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: you want to write them, he's got that just a

829
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: little bit.

830
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: You're going way back. I've done this too. I've sat

831
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: and I've been like, well, Maya can't and I was

832
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: forty one years old. He's going he's going to turn

833
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: forty two and he's on a two fight winning streak again.

834
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: So I don't really know, man, I'm waiting for that decline.

835
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: But it's almost like he shows you new wrinkles even

836
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: in a stand up, and he's incorporated over time. Is

837
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: that wrestling like that's part of his base to get

838
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: it into his world of the grappling jiu jitsu. It's

839
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: just he's a He's one of the quiet, cerebral types

840
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: in this game. He puts it together in the right way.

841
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 3: So I'm not putting it past him that he goes

842
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: in there and does the same thing to ask him,

843
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: but I at some point.

844
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: That's got to slow down, right, I feel like you're

845
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: wondering this fight though.

846
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: It's weird when you get to elite and in these

847
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: cases like all time great grapplers, right, And that's not

848
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: crazy to call Ben Askron an all time great MMA wrestler.

849
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: It can cancel each other out. We've seen that many times.

850
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times can we watch Phil Davis

851
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 1: and Ryan Baterer and not yeah, stick objects into our

852
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: eye sockets.

853
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: But in this case, it is.

854
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: This going to be the ultimate nerd super Bowl of

855
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: BB Is all these A D C C fans going

856
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: to rock out with Luke there and enjoy this considering.

857
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: That's the best fight on the it's the main event

858
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: and really there's not a lot else on this card.

859
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't pan out that way because it

860
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: would seem like, you know, just such a dull event

861
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: at that point. But I could see that happening, man

862
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: only I'd say that there's major intrigue though, when it

863
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: does go to the ground, at least at first, if

864
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: you if a pattern develops and you just see that

865
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: it's going to go that way for fifteen or twenty

866
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 3: five minutes whatever it is, this twenty five minute fight, right, Yes,

867
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: if if you see the pattern emerge, it's like at

868
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: that point it'll be boring. But I feel like the

869
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 3: first time you go to the ground. There will be

870
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: a lot of intrigue there.

871
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. Breakfast at Wimbledon here uprobably in Singapore

872
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: a D C C style. Have a drink on me,

873
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: get sown a great song back and black. Come on.

874
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: You know where I'm going to?

875
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 5: Yes?

876
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: I do.

877
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: Hey. By the way, speaking of morning combat merch, how

878
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: about that hat with the old MK Ultra logo on

879
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: top there?

880
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: Right?

881
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: Maybe we can go into business together. Yeah, you know

882
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: Grease's point up there. All right, let's shift on. And

883
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: we had plenty of topics this week outside of the ring,

884
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: outside of the cage, in combat sports that really seem

885
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: to dominate the headlines. I don't want to go long

886
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: on all of them here, but I want to sort

887
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: of hit up and unfortunate news in the boxing world,

888
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: as twenty seven year old junior middleweight Patrick Day died

889
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: and succumbed to the injuries he suffered inside the ring

890
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: on that designe undercard more than a week ago against

891
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: unbeaten Charles Conwell passes away due to brain injuries. The

892
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: real larger connective tissue story here, Chuck, unfortunately is this

893
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: is the third death in boxing in three months. We

894
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: had two in the same week, with Hugo Santillion in

895
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: July and Maxim Dadashev the top rank prospect there Day,

896
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: who I unfortunately mispronounced is his first name. Last week

897
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: Patrick Day, New York product. Everyone loves him, all the

898
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: heartfelt honors coming out his way.

899
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: Luke and I hit up at length last week.

900
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: The whole sort of how do you deal with this

901
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: as a fan, as a journalist, being complicit in the

902
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: danger of the sport? How does the sport deal with this?

903
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: How should the sport deal with this? Bring us in

904
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: boxing are not new. This has been around for a

905
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: long time. The whole idea of the dangers of this

906
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: sport are not new. When you do have three and

907
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: three months, it's a little bit more of a wake

908
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: up call. I feel like boxing can end up being

909
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: to a certain degree like the NFL. The more you

910
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: try to protect the inevitable and a compact more like this,

911
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: the more it stops being boxing. I'm not sure outside

912
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: of regulations what else you can do inside the ring.

913
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: You know what you're getting into.

914
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: It's just it's tough, man, It's a tough question. It's

915
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: going to keep happening. It will it will inevitably happen,

916
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 3: and it has happened for his all through history. It

917
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: will happen in MMA, it will happen at some point,

918
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: you know, in the UFC probably at some point. It's

919
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: just one of those things you can't really gauge it.

920
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the fight lot, but I went back

921
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: and watched it, because you get intrigued if you're going

922
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: to be able to see something about you know, just

923
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: the demeanor, or if it is he's showing signs, but

924
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 3: he didn't really show signs.

925
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: Did you watch the fight?

926
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: I did, and I also saw that letter Conwell wrote

927
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: afterwards to his appointed Life was the hospital. But again

928
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: your point, it wasn't one of those insane all time wars,

929
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: you know when when the magamet ab Dusalamo off the heavyweight,

930
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: add that incident in New York. You know, I was

931
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: at that fight. In the last couple of rounds, I

932
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: remember going, come on, we.

933
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: Got to stop this. What is there to gain at

934
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 2: this point?

935
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: The fact that all three of these deaths come from

936
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: fires that are twenty seven and younger. This wasn't somebody

937
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: lingering on too long. It's look, Deontay Wilder, the heavyweight.

938
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: But WBC Heavyweight Champion always sys it best, says it

939
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: in so many interviews that you know, a doctor told

940
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: him early in his career, You're not meant to be

941
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 1: punched in the head. We're not designed for that. Well,

942
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: but with this sport, endoors I. The problem is there's

943
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: no way to put a positive spin on it. There's

944
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: nothing positive about it. We're all complicit in going on

945
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: to the next week's fight and praying for a war, right.

946
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: This is what This is how a lot of us

947
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: get hooked. The excitement, the.

948
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Opportunity for the human spirit to overcome and within drama,

949
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: in the fires of hell inside that ring.

950
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: Part of what makes fighting profound is that possibility. It

951
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: is the truth.

952
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: They go hand in hand, the fact that these guys

953
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: are staking their lives out there and they go in

954
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: when they go fight. I never lose respect for these

955
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: guys ever. You know, it keeps you grounded in what

956
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: you're watching. It keeps your respect level pretty high. But

957
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 3: I think that that danger element is actually part of

958
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: what makes people tune in.

959
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: I really do.

960
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: It's a horribly tragic thing when you see something like that,

961
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: but it's the fact that that's even a possibility. I

962
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: think is part of the I don't want to say exhilaration,

963
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, it's part of the

964
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 3: strange allure of when you watch a fight, you just

965
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: know that these guys are putting their lives on the line,

966
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: which is a crazy thing to do in sport.

967
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, well, I don't have an in ring fix,

968
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily want an in ring fix that

969
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: would alter the sport in a way to protect it.

970
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Let's not forget though, when you hear the stories about

971
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: the champions seventy eighty hundred years ago, they're like, they

972
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: fought a forty four round fight and they were victorious.

973
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: We look at that as sort of the dark ages

974
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of rules and fighters safety. I wonder

975
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: twenty five years from now whether we'll look at now

976
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: whether certain rule changes will come. I mean, look at

977
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: even in football, you know, going helmet to helmet now,

978
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it's just sort of like taboo and outlaw.

979
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: You'd never do it.

980
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: How much we tailor or to make these guys as

981
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: strong and powerful as possible, these athletes are completely different

982
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: over the time.

983
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's humbling, and that wasn't the only news

984
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: this week. We also, of course had unbeaten unified Wealthyway

985
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: champion Arrol Spence had that unfortunate car crash three am

986
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: and Dallas flips his Ferrari multiple times, gets thrown from

987
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: the vehicle. We find out after the fact he gets

988
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: charged with DWI and here's the video. This is as

989
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: scary and humbling crazy as possible. Certainly, the narrative was

990
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: was how miraculous this was Spence ejected from the vehicle,

991
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: a guy who's on the verge of breakout stardom, back

992
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: to back pay per view main event opportunities, really one

993
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: of the Pomper Palm best of the sport.

994
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: And it was while this is a miracle.

995
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: In fact, he had put on his Instagram page in

996
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: a now deleted comment being like, no broken bones, I'm

997
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: a savage. Then you find out the news of the duy.

998
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't. There's nothing really to say here.

999
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: I just hope this is the right wake up call

1000
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: for Spence.

1001
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 3: All of us Instagram was an Instagram whatever on social

1002
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: media Instagram. When he says something like that, though, you're like, oh,

1003
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 3: because you you want that lesson to be that because

1004
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: he's a young cat man. He's got the world, but

1005
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: there's that sheen of invincibility that he still has.

1006
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: You want to see that in the ring.

1007
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: You don't want to see that when you know out

1008
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: in this situation because he's very mortal and he's very lucky.

1009
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy because you know, you have a guy who,

1010
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: like we mentioned that the potential for starting the potential

1011
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: will be the pomp for Palm King.

1012
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: It could have been gone his life, It could have

1013
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: been gone.

1014
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: With just his career being taken away, and he comes

1015
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: out with just basically scratches. Hopefully this is the I

1016
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: don't know where he's at mentally in terms of wanting

1017
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: to get back into the ring or if or when,

1018
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: but this gives him the opportunity to the real fight

1019
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: in January right like he was Socia.

1020
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: Yes, so we'll see where that goes from here.

1021
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: UFC side Commin McGregor is only in the news for

1022
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: bad things lately. Now we have it from the New

1023
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: York Times report a second sexual assault allegation against him.

1024
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: Through a publicist, McGregor has denied it.

1025
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Habib dermaca Metoff goes on Twitter through a translated one

1026
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: and basically calls him a rapist again. So here we are, Yeah, Chuck,

1027
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: If I would have told you November twenty sixteen, right

1028
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: New York City, Yeah, UFC two of five Connor McGregor

1029
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: ready Alvarez McGregor caps off one of the most insane

1030
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: years in combat sports. Hitty couldn't be a bigger star financially,

1031
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: top of the world, wants to be an owner, suffers

1032
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: his first UFC defeat and runs it back in dramatic fashion.

1033
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1034
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: And if I would have told you then that three

1035
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: years later he would have one fight, a dominant title loss. Yeah,

1036
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: and I you know, you could take the Floyd fight

1037
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: and either add it to this or just throw it

1038
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: out the window because it's not UFC. But just that

1039
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: we go three years in the biggest star in the

1040
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: sport would have one fight and would be embroiled in

1041
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: this much consistently bad headlines, the punch of the old

1042
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: fellow at the bar that he's gonna gonna have to

1043
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: deal with there, I'm sick of it.

1044
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when will.

1045
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: The public be sick of it? Should the public be?

1046
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: How bad is this for his brand? Over all?

1047
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: And consuming everything that's happened lately.

1048
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's on brand with his brand at

1049
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: this point, because when whenever I hear his name now,

1050
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 3: I feel like there's this dark cloud. It's it's kind

1051
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: of the reversal of fun, right like he had his

1052
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 3: first part of his career was this vicarious thrill for

1053
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: anybody watching it, his country, you know, everybody else. It

1054
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: was fun and he was living up to a nickname

1055
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: of the notorious. Now he spent the last few years

1056
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 3: trying to live it down, but he just keeps making

1057
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: it worse and it actually becomes more of a profound

1058
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: type of situation. But he's a human spiral right now. Man,

1059
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: these things. I mean, he may never fight again at

1060
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: this point.

1061
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: And you hear reports like every other debt was's gonna

1062
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: fight frank Yegar, He's gonna fight justin Gaishy, He's not

1063
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: gonna fight it.

1064
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, he's gonna fight hebib.

1065
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's getting to the point where we're

1066
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: all sick of it that all of us who do podcasts,

1067
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: and you do a great one on the Athletic.

1068
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: The man in the myth a good guy with he's

1069
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: very talented guy.

1070
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: My combat say to combat pocket, I mean look, every

1071
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: week it's the same thing. Is he coming back? Who

1072
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: should he fight? Like? I'm just so sick of it

1073
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: at this point. Simultaneously, you got Dana White and Connor

1074
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of having a public war, which Dana says, now

1075
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: Connor's not the man anymore, Habib's the man. You saw

1076
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: the response on Twitter from Connor that sort of attack.

1077
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: Dana, Does he have a point? I get what you're saying.

1078
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: You do. You certainly have to believe it's fueled by

1079
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: negotiation issues of Connor putting his brand, believing it's at

1080
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: this point, Dana hoping and wanting it to be at

1081
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: this point.

1082
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: Well, Dana is a pretty smart guy, and how he

1083
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: manipulates the saluation.

1084
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: He keeps calling the shots. But are we getting to

1085
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: the point where Habib is a bigger brand.

1086
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 3: I don't think so, not yet. I think that there's

1087
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: an inertia that's part of the McGregor things. So if

1088
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: he does sign on to fight, all the people will

1089
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: just get back in, All the casual audience will tune

1090
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: back in. I think there is a little bit of

1091
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: a question mark there, but I think that that will

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00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: be the case. I don't really think that no longer

1093
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 3: made up, was at that space.

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00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: Yet every day that goes by, though, it gives you

1095
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: less confidence, less care, and less confidence that Connor can

1096
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: come back and be that guy. Because staying active is

1097
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: so key, even if you're not fighting killers man, staying active, and.

1098
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 2: Do you know how fast the fight world goes.

1099
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: I mean it's just every weekend there's a you literally

1100
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: start to get buried. People don't remember even the profound

1101
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: nature of how you connected with you you said three

1102
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: years ago.

1103
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: Was the idiots were coming up on three years of that,

1104
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: he's losing a lot of that vitality. It's it's it's insane. Uh.

1105
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: Boxing Hall of fameer Oscar d Hoya also has this

1106
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: similar allegations, in which Golden Boy Promotions put out a

1107
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: statement refuting it. It's it's ugly. Also, we've got MMA

1108
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: manager Ali A bel Aziz, who sometimes is in hot

1109
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: water getting banned from the PFL playoffs moving forward due

1110
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: to a backstage fight with manager a cow like.

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00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: I don't care.

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00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: It's on brand for Ali and away with like the

1113
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: he's got his own notorious thing going.

1114
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Does this Does this tickle anything on you?

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00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Not? Really?

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00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: It's the fight game periphery is always fun though, right like,

1117
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: because there's all kinds of you're you're in the fight

1118
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: world exactly, and they're the fringe gentleman. Is what makes

1119
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: it so fun because there's all these people who are

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00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: off the hook. I feel like Ali is right in

1121
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 3: there with the crazies in this game. And of course

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00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 3: the calls are like these big time managers, so only

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00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: in the sense of a peripheral thing.

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00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Let's know, if Bruce Buffer.

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00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: Got in a fight, you'd be interested, you know, just

1126
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: like that.

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00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: But Bruce Buffer, Joe Martinez, we got just kidding, all right,

1128
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: all right, let's hit up some boxing to close out

1129
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: our big headlines of the week.

1130
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: And in Philadelphia over the week.

1131
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: On ESPN, you had a light heavyweight super Bowl title

1132
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: unification about two to one, Beaten's Art better Viev, the

1133
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Russian fighter who fights out of Montreal against Ukrainian Alexander Vodsik.

1134
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: And this was better Beef entering beast mode, Chuck, you

1135
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: better believe it, late stoppage, but this was a fight.

1136
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: We're just signing it. At this point in their careers.

1137
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Was both guys going all in and wanting to be

1138
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: great and in the victory. Of course, by the way,

1139
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: you had better be becoming the lineal champion as well.

1140
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: But the manner in which this fight played out.

1141
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: This was a chess match back and forth, but a

1142
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: physical one. And it was Better Beaf, who had knocked

1143
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: Vodzig out ten years earlier in the amateurs, acted like

1144
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: the bully, threw out, dealt with the adjustments that the marksman,

1145
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: the craftsman that Vodsick was doing, and just had something

1146
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: else for him return, Chuck, You don't know how great

1147
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: somebody can be until they're forced to.

1148
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think with better Beef, we knew his name.

1149
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'd won a world title, he'd been blowing through guys,

1150
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: but he'd been going through the political scuffle where it

1151
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: was hard for him to stay consistent and get big fights.

1152
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: When he got pushed to another level by Votsik and

1153
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: had to be great, he showed you suddenly who he

1154
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: really is. He's gonna be thirty five in a few months,

1155
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: so it's not like he snuck up on us out

1156
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: of nowhere, but the idea that he's potentially a pound

1157
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: for pound threat did How.

1158
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: Impressed were you him showing up on this already? I

1159
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: was pretty impressed.

1160
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: I tell you what, his power is ridiculous because even

1161
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: the like even the dirty box and the inside stuff,

1162
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: he's still mashing through the vines, man like he's going

1163
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: right in there and you can see and I felt

1164
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: like you could feel the frustration, you know, going on

1165
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: in that fight because he was just getting manhandled in there,

1166
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So to me, man, that

1167
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 3: was a hell of a showing. And I'll be paying attention.

1168
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Anything Votsik would do to adjust, and he did such

1169
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: a great job and he ended up in the hospital

1170
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: for two days with a concussion afterwards. Uh, you know,

1171
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: better Beef had the I didn't know better Beef had

1172
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: the twelve round championship stamina. I didn't know he had

1173
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: the craft to go with the bullying and the big

1174
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 1: power punching fifteen and oh with fifteen Ko's never would

1175
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: have guessed that this is a guy who I voted

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00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: this week number ten pound for pounder and that we're

1177
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: talking about as a star. And you look at this division.

1178
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Now we've got Meitri bev All, the w ABA champion.

1179
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: He wants it.

1180
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: That would have to be a dual network thing because

1181
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: bev All fights for his own, but everybody seems to

1182
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: want it.

1183
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: And then you.

1184
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: Got Canelo and Covilev for that fourth belt. Now, look,

1185
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: I Canelo's got what the guy in Major League two say, uh,

1186
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: you know the you know what, you know, the the

1187
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: Japanese guy.

1188
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: You know who I'm talking about, the wall. Uh, he's

1189
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: got big ones. Yeah, but I don't think.

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00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they are that big, nor should they

1191
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: be that big. I think if Canelo beats covid Lev

1192
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,479
Speaker 1: on November second in a fight, you gotta see he's

1193
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: just gonna lay that thing down and say we had

1194
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: we had a great rock here at one seven five beef.

1195
00:46:59,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: It's all yours.

1196
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: Another big payday for cove right if he somehow beats Canila.

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00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: Division had an identity, remember it was Covidle. It was

1198
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: a Donna Stevenson kind of hijacking it and never fighting

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Speaker 1: each other.

1200
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 2: Now we got some business. Now we got some fun.

1201
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: I know there's European names hard to allow, but get

1202
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: used to saying better.

1203
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: Bf Okay, get used to it.

1204
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I know Luke said biet to whatever, what do you

1205
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: what do you think Luke's drinking down there?

1206
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god, pepto bismo probably.

1207
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably in a jail right now. All right, we'll

1208
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: leave that at that. That's it for your headlines for

1209
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: the weeks. We want to hear from you now, it's

1210
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: d M for Donks time. D M from Donks. Is

1211
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Speaker 1: that where we're going with this? D MS from Donks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We appreciate you watching, sending in

1213
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: your questions your feedback on our Instagram channel.

1214
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: Please subscribe there as well.

1215
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Let's hitd up with the first one from at Johnny

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00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: Underscore Rockets Underscore. Yeah, that's that's it's a great name.

1217
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: There a great spelling on with with with Dustin Porier

1218
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: and Justin gage Ge both waiting for the money fight

1219
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: and hook Do you like for lightweight Dan Hooker? Next, Chuck,

1220
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: I'll let you play Sean Shelby.

1221
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: Pretty impressive stuff against AAQUENSA, right. I feel like he

1222
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: needs a top five type of guy. I wouldn't mind

1223
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 3: the Paul Felder I wouldn't mind seeing a Paul Felder fight.

1224
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 2: Felder is coming off a win, right.

1225
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: He's coming off a win and he was just fought

1226
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: in Abu Dhabi. I think that that would be you know,

1227
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: they're similar. I think they're in the similar position.

1228
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: So he just he's coming off the Barbosa win. Yeah,

1229
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: this is the deepest, most dangerous division. But Hooker has

1230
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: really sort of put himself like, I'm ready for that

1231
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: top five levels. That's great matchmaking, that's a hell of

1232
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: a fight.

1233
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: Well, they both kind of in the same space.

1234
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: Are not going to get a title shot, but I

1235
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: feel like you put them It wouldn't necessarily be a

1236
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: title luminary, but I think it could be if you

1237
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: wanted it to be.

1238
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: I think when you have a division this deep, there

1239
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: are levels to type of domination. There are there are

1240
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: you know, get into that top five, get into that

1241
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: top three, get in the bullpen waiting, and then get

1242
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: into that twenty. Speaking of lightweight, did you see Tony

1243
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: Ferguson today this morning on Twitter telling John Jones, I'll

1244
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: move up to weight divisions and fight.

1245
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: I bet Jones would be into that one. He would

1246
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 2: be like, sure, h, let's get another small star.

1247
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: All right, dongs in all caps, Yes, Tony caps on

1248
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: there all right? From at Mikey Leche okay, Nick Laches boy,

1249
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: they're from the ninety degrees of the of the nineties,

1250
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: late nineties, two thousand's boy bands, which there wasn't a

1251
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: lot of masculinity coming.

1252
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Out of those three or four groups.

1253
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: I thought ninety eight degrees had had an edge of

1254
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: cool factor to them, right, Because I'm not gonna I'm

1255
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: not gonna vouch for Backstreet and Sink.

1256
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: Who was the fourth one? Uh? In sinc Backstreet Boys?

1257
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: Who's the first one kids in the block?

1258
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: I was thinking, Yes, the fourth one I'm thinking of

1259
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: was the one that came out of the MTV reality show.

1260
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Oh Town?

1261
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: Thank you Jay? Right here?

1262
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: Wow?

1263
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: And by the way, whoever whatever listener put hashtag FJ

1264
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: as one of our comics last week. Jay's feelings felt

1265
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: that Oh Town not too manly either.

1266
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: Look, we have a countes right well, so niche, let

1267
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 3: me hit up make a.

1268
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 2: Drinking game out of this. Now, this is what I want.

1269
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: This is what I want. It's Ashley Parker Angel.

1270
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: Yes.

1271
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: When I went solo, by the way, I can.

1272
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: Vouch for a solo I went pretty deep on those weeds. Wow. Wow, Yeah,

1273
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: there is a three drink minimum on the show. All right,

1274
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: let's check out Jay. We're off getting you in the

1275
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: spot out here. Let's let's find out what Mikey had

1276
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: to say. Okay, oh wait, it's.

1277
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: Fine here it is Chuck love the hat.

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00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Macy Barber but hate the

1279
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: pb PVZ fight. Who do you think would be a

1280
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: good option for her with a bigger challenger to set

1281
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: that stage? On the UFC Boston undercard Over the weekend,

1282
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Macy Barber had a destructive.

1283
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: First first round knockout for her Yes, I believe, so

1284
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: I forgot how believe I forgot? Who she fought?

1285
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: She's still She's still the headlines, Yes, Robertson, Yes, calls

1286
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: out page van zand afterwards big time. Sure there's a

1287
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: shallow division there at a at a UFC women's flyweight.

1288
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 3: It's smart though, right Like, I feel like this is

1289
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 3: a smart call out. I mean, she should want that fight.

1290
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: I feel like Pageant has a name and probably somewhat

1291
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: of a factor in there that people probably want to

1292
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 3: see your humbled a little bit.

1293
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Let's just put it like that.

1294
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: So I feel like Macy's kind of setting herself up

1295
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: for a for something that she feels like she's in

1296
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: line with the publics.

1297
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: That's the ultimate I'll take your I'll take the fight

1298
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: and I'll take your fans. That's a big opportunity for

1299
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Speaker 1: Macy there. I mean, she should come out and say

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00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: I'll smash your girl.

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00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: Somebody is like, you know, I make more most of

1302
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: my money on Instagram posts. I think that then that

1303
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: person becomes the target for somebody like Macy.

1304
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: Right, there's a wild place you having any relationships with

1305
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: any female fighters Instagram accounts right now?

1306
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: Relationships, I think I have.

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00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: To Okay, we'll do that, all right, DMH. Comment here

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00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: from Andrew Garrosbie Carson Daily versus brought Carson d is

1309
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: washed right now.

1310
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: You could take I would take them down. I would

1311
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: take them right downtown.

1312
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: There aren't a lot of people I favor you against,

1313
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: but I would favor you in that.

1314
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

1315
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: I got the Dad Bob going on here these days. Okay,

1316
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: thank you very much. We don't anymore donks coming at us.

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00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: Come on, bring it, bring the heat all right? From

1318
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: at Pastor Blynn, Oh okay, a man of the cloth there,

1319
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: he says, is the jump from one to eighty five

1320
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: to twol five just too big of a gap for

1321
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: fighters going up? Is there something to be said for

1322
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: a one to ninety five division? It seems to make

1323
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: just as much sense as the one six y five

1324
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: at this point in time. He's talking about the gap

1325
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: between middleweight and light heavyweight. It's always been there, it's

1326
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: always been big.

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Speaker 3: The only problem I think with the one ninety five

1328
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: is that the Tool five division typically doesn't have a

1329
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: lot of people in it. There aren't a lot of

1330
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: new challengers, and I feel like we've been in that

1331
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: spot for a long time now. You wonder if that

1332
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: would deplete it that much further. I feel like the

1333
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: Tool five would just be like a ghost sound at

1334
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: that point.

1335
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. I want to get away from this.

1336
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: I even want to get away from the one sixty

1337
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: five title, even though I love the idea of taking

1338
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: two bmfors or taking two names that aren't in the

1339
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: lightweight or w elt'aweight title picture matching up, which we've

1340
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of these, yeah, these you know ideas

1341
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: for that. The reason why I don't want to do

1342
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: it is because I've lived in boxing. I am boxing.

1343
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: Boxing sucks. Boxing does not get out of its own way.

1344
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: Boxing has seventeen weight classes. They have four problem and

1345
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: then they have four recognized sanctioning bodies. Who put out

1346
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: their own champions for per weight class, and then you

1347
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: have the WBA, who puts out upwards of three champions

1348
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the per weight class, per whatever.

1349
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: Greatest psychological like connection between the UFC and his fans

1350
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: was accessibility, Like you could pay attention to a UFC

1351
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: fight on any given weekend and understand exactly It would

1352
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: be a great entry point. You would understand exactly what

1353
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: the stakes are. Who has the belt is very simple.

1354
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I agree with you one hundred percent.

1355
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: The interim belts and all that stuff, and you know,

1356
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: you get a lot of that going on.

1357
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: It's complicated.

1358
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: It gets more complicated the more divisions you add, especially

1359
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: when you have people kind of bouncing around.

1360
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Speaker 1: This is what Dana White missed when he got super

1361
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: crazy angry at the media before and after the Atlantic

1362
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: card in April with the Ottosani Gaslin fight and another

1363
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: seemingly unnecessary interim title. His you know idea was you

1364
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: guys don't understand they're next in line. This is making

1365
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: them fight harder. This means we get a five run fight.

1366
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: All that's great, and when you get fights that great,

1367
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: holy crap. It makes sense. But it's us who have

1368
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: watched boxing or going no, this is the wrong direction

1369
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: to go, considering that Dana and the Fertidas, who saved

1370
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: the UFC and made it what it is today, did

1371
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: so by essentially saying, we're boxing fans, we love boxing,

1372
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: we hate the mistakes that boxing is making. Let's build

1373
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: up this new fighting organization being everything that boxing isn't.

1374
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: So.

1375
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: No, I don't need a one to nine five title.

1376
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't need a one six y five. You know,

1377
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: we always think of boxing. Can go back to the

1378
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: glory days of eight divisions. To your point, everyone knows

1379
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: who the champions are. That's how you make stars, That's

1380
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: how you make fights that people need to see, not

1381
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: seventeen divisions, not four champions or seven champions per division.

1382
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: Not every televised fight has to be for some BS

1383
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: regional belt. We don't need it. Hey, WBC, I don't

1384
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 1: need a Mayan title, all right, shout out to the Mayans.

1385
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't need a I don't need anything.

1386
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: Okay, get off my property, get off of my lawn.

1387
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: And whoever that guy was, the pastor Blenn, God bless you.

1388
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: No one nine five title, all right, get out here.

1389
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: Next question, This is the first time.

1390
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 2: I've agreed with you. Next question, all right, we're live, guys,

1391
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: we're live.

1392
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Next question, all right, at Danny Kelly O six four,

1393
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: which five active fighters excluding mon diaz Man are currently

1394
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: on your BMF list.

1395
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: This is a fun category.

1396
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: If you were making a BMF pound for pound list,

1397
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: I think they're all going to linger probably around that

1398
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: lightweight welterweight one sixty five area area that we're talking about,

1399
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: but just under the spirit of BMF.

1400
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: Geez, who else is on that? Just engaged?

1401
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: She is.

1402
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: Kind of gangster like that maybe serony.

1403
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean, that was what made that fight fun, like

1404
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: because those dudes don't have any FS to give it.

1405
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: I feel like those those guys would be there. I'm

1406
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: trying to think, though, I feel like there's a couple

1407
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: of guys like that, Like Tony.

1408
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Is a star who has the BMF personality. Matt Brown

1409
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: is another great pick.

1410
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys, I'm trying to think of guys like that.

1411
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1412
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: I think Brian Ortega has a little bit of BMF

1413
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: and although he's more of a gloss see title challenging

1414
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: Potential Superstar training Halle Berry for a movie.

1415
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: I wonder if you smashed. You gotta wonder.

1416
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: You gotta at least wonder, right, you gotta you gotta.

1417
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: Think that all the cats who have the chance. I'm

1418
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 2: sure he's the.

1419
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: When you were on the six like Jlo on the

1420
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: train on the way and you're thinking about.

1421
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 2: That, you know, I'm sure he's not struggle.

1422
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: You know what I hate?

1423
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: I saw that photo.

1424
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: Where another pretty man, bred A Kamoto shout out on

1425
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: his resigned. It's his birthday today, shout out on his

1426
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: resigned with the ESPN posted that picture of or take

1427
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: a shirtless with the hair in the back.

1428
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: You got a little confused there.

1429
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: Right, It's like when the lights go out of the club.

1430
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: You're just he's not He's not even you a blonde

1431
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: man enorgy. You're just feeling around, you know what I mean?

1432
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: Where were we? All?

1433
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1434
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: So? Yeah, I like I like those picks. Uh.

1435
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: You gotta have a little gangster to you though, right,

1436
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: you gotta have an edge.

1437
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: Mike Perry is gangster? Is a B M effort? Yes, yeah, I.

1438
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: Mean guys like that, that's who like when you think

1439
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: of what the spirit of this thing is, I think

1440
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: Ray Carruth.

1441
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it will never happen all right?

1442
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: Is that it for Dawnson? Oh at sea Quizzle ninety three?

1443
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,760
Speaker 1: What should Deron wins next move.

1444
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Be Deron Winn of course.

1445
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: The former Golden Boy MN, a star protege of Daniel Cormier,

1446
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: lost out UFC Boston over the weekend, split decision lost,

1447
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: missing weight in a division where the average fighter is

1448
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: around five ten to six one while being five to

1449
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: seven and taking an l who.

1450
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 2: Looks like do you remember who? He thought it was

1451
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: a last one? It was a split decision loss on Saturday.

1452
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: I forgotten that he that he lost to This is great,

1453
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: it's just you know, well researched here. Anyway, Doran Wins

1454
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: got an issue and that he's this big Okay, he's

1455
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: a tough fighter. He's in the gym with DC. Do

1456
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: you like having DC on commentary with his boy? I

1457
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: didn't really like that.

1458
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird back in the day. You know,

1459
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: if Roy Jones was on and he had a guy

1460
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: he was, he'd stepway.

1461
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: That's always going to be the problem though with the

1462
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 3: guys you know, like DC and these guys are you know,

1463
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: there's a lot of cross.

1464
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: He's going to be some of that.

1465
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what he should do, man, because I

1466
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: thought he was I thought he was pretty well placed.

1467
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: I was hoping this wouldn't happen because I know he's

1468
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: a bigger guy. But I think he should stay there,

1469
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: maybe get on. I tried to get it down a

1470
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: little earlier. I think his best bet is still in

1471
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 3: the division he's in.

1472
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I would problem is seeks like a welterweight. It kind

1473
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: of reminds me of a he does. But I don't

1474
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: know if he can get down there. Yeah, dude, Yeah,

1475
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: but he was short, he's very Yeah, he's kind of

1476
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: like DC minime, right, Yeah, he is.

1477
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: I think I would.

1478
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 3: I'd like to see him exactly where he's at another time.

1479
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: And if if he doesn't make weight or whatever the

1480
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: case is, then I guess you always make a run

1481
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: on that.

1482
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: Golden Boy open weight title.

1483
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they come back again. All right, that's DM

1484
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: from Donks this week. Please continue to let your voice

1485
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: be heard and send it in. But Chuck, this is

1486
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: a debut time for you. In my favorite segment, Chuck

1487
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: Minden Hall, have you seen this ship? Because Chuck, we're

1488
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: home in the desert, all right, and we have found

1489
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: this ship. Let's hit it up Number one Chuck from

1490
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: this weekend bk FC eight Bare Knuckle Big Bird against

1491
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: Wash Gabe Gonzaga. Go wow, the Bigfoot is down and

1492
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: he is out, Chuck. It's a disturbing rite of passing

1493
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: these days, like.

1494
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 3: Like the migration of glove down to the now they're

1495
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: wearing shoes, so it's like, yeah.

1496
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: You know what, when a forty year old dad gets divorced,

1497
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: he's automatically got to get like the ponytail on the

1498
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: sports car. I feel like every wash UFC guys like,

1499
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: you know what, I got to finish my career by

1500
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: donating my soul to this bare knuckle crap.

1501
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, this doesn't move me.

1502
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: This is so like you know, it's one of those

1503
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: where you think it's a good idea coming in. I

1504
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: always make the reference. Have you ever had a gas

1505
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: station hot with trees in the middle. Yeah, Boston, Master's

1506
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: a turnpike.

1507
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: They got those those streamlined in the middle.

1508
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Talk to me about the taking a gun, it's like

1509
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: taking a cheese gun the counter. Like if I could

1510
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: inject my veins like directly with cheese, just mainline them,

1511
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: you know how, it's quickly. I'd signed up.

1512
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 2: Sounds like a good idea.

1513
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: The problem is, man, that they're just all these guys

1514
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 3: are retread in terms of.

1515
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: They've already taken such a beating through their careers. They're older,

1516
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: these guys. Man, who wants to watch these guys get

1517
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,439
Speaker 2: hurt at this point? I don't even think for whatever

1518
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: amount of money they're making, I don't.

1519
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: Even think you had on put hair when he when

1520
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: he sent pro cop to hell with that head kick, right,

1521
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: that was a long time ago.

1522
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, all right, get that off my screen, like,

1523
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: get it off? Get it off my screen?

1524
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: All right? All right, all right, all right, uh no,

1525
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: that was the first. Get hit me up.

1526
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: What's what's the second one?

1527
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: Get hit me up?

1528
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: What's the second?

1529
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: PFC Gladiator six? In Russia? I went to a fight

1530
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: and a rave broke out. How unfair is it if

1531
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: you're this is a beat looking guy on the ground

1532
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: and during a fight the lights go out in Georgia?

1533
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: What the hell's happening here?

1534
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: And by Georgia, I don't mean Atlanta, I mean the

1535
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Caucus region?

1536
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: Is this fair?

1537
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Is this legal?

1538
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: Can we check his blood system for.

1539
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: For molly and m D M A or whatever? Afterwards?

1540
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was t K O V

1541
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: A date rape jog. What's happening here?

1542
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this can't you people? People are like it there,

1543
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: they're bouncing. This is like a night at the Roxbury too.

1544
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta get a no contest out of this, right?

1545
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god. You ever take your kids to like

1546
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: midnight ball?

1547
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: You ever go to like midnight bowling and the lights

1548
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: are flashing.

1549
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 2: And people are sticking fingers and holes.

1550
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really, it's really, it's really grow this. I've

1551
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: been off the rails already. Wow, we're still live. Oh boy?

1552
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the go to the PFL playoffs.

1553
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: Here. I don't know this fighter's name, couldn't find it anywhere.

1554
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: Look at how the coach fires him up.

1555
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: This is how you water a guy down.

1556
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: Look right back at you spit in the face, truck.

1557
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: I just spin in your face with excitement right there.

1558
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: You didn't see it?

1559
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: Wow, let's see the skin that is?

1560
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, it kind of reminds me of like old

1561
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: school carneye wrestling.

1562
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Bullshit, you know what I'm saying, Like Luke wouldn't all this, but.

1563
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: It's a hornswaggle and mini Bugeyman, Mini Boogeyman puts the

1564
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: worms in his face. Hornswoggle comes back with the green mist.

1565
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: You gotta love this stuff right here, come on, there's

1566
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 1: got to be part of your soul.

1567
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 5: Tho.

1568
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: I do love this, I do very much.

1569
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: Shout out to the the great Mutah did it great

1570
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: with the miss right stuff.

1571
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,919
Speaker 2: Wow, it's very Asian to do the miss.

1572
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where this irishman gets off doing it,

1573
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: but shout out to Hornswoggle right there.

1574
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: Wow, great footed, Look at that. Look at that. I

1575
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: don't want my cornerman doing that to me though. You know,

1576
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: all right, we're going to uh Brazil for the next one.

1577
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: At the future m m A nine card Jonas speed

1578
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Bill Haurino after a three year MMA break. Do you

1579
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: remember this is the guy Jose Aldo used to mint,

1580
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor running knee shades of Andy Silva and Michael Bisping.

1581
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna lose an eye with that kind of.

1582
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Knee strike there, and look at the care and compassion afterwards.

1583
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: Look at that a man with those kind of showing

1584
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: afterwards folding. Wow, yeah, he's out.

1585
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: Look at three years away from the game though, I

1586
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: mean Wow. Yeah, you think mcmaynard's watching this. I mean,

1587
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is watching, by the way, watching this show.

1588
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: They could have stopped the fight when Silva hit that

1589
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: endy on Bissing, right. Yeah, I think he get screwed

1590
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: on the cards too.

1591
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of Silva.

1592
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: And getting screwed, I know I told the story before.

1593
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: Do you think it's weird When Anderson Silva opened up

1594
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: that La dojo for a while and was selling his

1595
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: clothing line that his pr people reached out to me

1596
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, we'd love to have you come to

1597
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: l a sit with Anderson, get an interview, and then

1598
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: in fine print at the bottom and said, Anderson would

1599
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: love if you brought your spouse too for the workout.

1600
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: You told me this before. This is like indecent proposal.

1601
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: Remember, were talking about the weird periphery of what's going

1602
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 3: on in the sport man there.

1603
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I get me coming to the gym, right,

1604
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: And they were like, you can roll with him, you

1605
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: can wear his workout stuff, but sure bring your.

1606
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: Wife if you want to.

1607
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: I got shade. I got called back to a nineties movie.

1608
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 2: That's that's normal.

1609
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: You think it's normal, Brian, I back trust me, trust me, Brian,

1610
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: I back, bro man.

1611
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: Remember he was buying some of those pills around that

1612
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 3: time from Thailand whatever he.

1613
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 2: Was no more pills, yes, yes, all right, so I'm

1614
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: just theorist. All right. Have you seen the ship number

1615
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: five here?

1616
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: Top ring boxing over the weekend lightweight Prospect Joseph Blessed

1617
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: Hands Adornio with the red Here. Look at this sending.

1618
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: This fellow Damien, I forgot his last name. This is

1619
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: ww like he set him up for the ray mystereo

1620
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: six one nine.

1621
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: Look at this. Oh, just hang out there for a while.

1622
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: You get that boy. This guy though good looking, prospect

1623
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: fourteen and oh twelve KOs, he's got a brother who

1624
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: fought on the card.

1625
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: He has a bunch of these highlights there.

1626
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: I guess that's why the ropes are designed to just

1627
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: just catch carcasses. The guys that watched the guy's brother,

1628
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: he almost he almost hit the ring bell with his

1629
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: face there. That's that's gotta be something to look at

1630
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: that Blessed Hands.

1631
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: Indeed, junk, I love the segment. Man, Oh wow, al right,

1632
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: I got a bonus video this time. All right, all right,

1633
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: you don't want to go to a college party.

1634
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, you're politicking with his chicken wonder and if

1635
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna creep it right little hood re b from

1636
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty six and eight ton. So she's like, let's put

1637
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: on the gloves, we're gonna hang out. Oh, somebody's got

1638
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: a camera. Oh, let's see what's gonna happen. See the

1639
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: problem that shock, here's the problem when you and I,

1640
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: when you.

1641
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: And I werefing around with college chicks.

1642
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you can take L's in the nineties because there

1643
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: were no cell phones, there were no MySpace or Facebook,

1644
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: there were was none of.

1645
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 3: That job feeling something like this, Okay, maybe the reputation

1646
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: would follow you.

1647
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh maybe you just never hang out with the people

1648
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 2: in the room again.

1649
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: But in twenty nineteen, you take L's like this, Wow,

1650
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the That guy had this purple shirt, jerk,

1651
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: Look at this guy. Look a guy with the crocs

1652
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: in the socks said we were looking past that.

1653
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: Wow. Look at this left hook from hell though tucking

1654
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: the chin. Boy, she's just wow setting them up.

1655
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: She was wow, coocked and loaded, brought it on that guy. Well,

1656
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: look at those people living it up in the back

1657
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: of it, just watching that on Luke for the rest

1658
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 1: of the show there, Oh wow, okay, all right, Hey,

1659
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: we always closed the show with uh well, I don't

1660
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: think if they recovered from that.

1661
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: I think I need a yeah, I need a cigarette

1662
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: or something here.

1663
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: We always closed the show with odds and ends. Luke,

1664
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean Chuck filling in for Luke? Do you want

1665
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: to go first on this? What do you got this week?

1666
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: You know?

1667
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 3: I I thought it was awesome that Wiley Jang, who

1668
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: now has the belt, is being asked about you want

1669
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: to young Jjak who just won her fight, and obviously

1670
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that should be the fight.

1671
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: She doesn't really want it.

1672
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: She would rather fight Rosana a Unis, she said, or

1673
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 3: Valentina Chevchenko. And I think I love this type of

1674
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 3: justice when the shoes on the other it's the karma

1675
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: because Yin j Check herself told the Eurobash guys in

1676
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: one of the podcasts that she turned down a Wiley

1677
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: Jang fight three different times. So I love it when

1678
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 3: it gets when it win, it switches gears like this,

1679
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: and then the other person won't allow it to happen

1680
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 3: or doesn't want it to happen. Here's what I really

1681
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: think though, I think that Wiley Jang actually wants that fight.

1682
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: I just think that she's kind of given her a

1683
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: little bit of her own mess.

1684
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: The more I the more little taste we get of

1685
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: whiley Y's personality, there's there's something there.

1686
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, she talked to her last week. There's a

1687
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: little bit of an honorary shot too. Yeah she is.

1688
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 2: She brought her hands the gun show. It is indeed there.

1689
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: I got two pieces of boxing coming up this weekend.

1690
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: Look boxing. We talked about how unorganized it is. It's

1691
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: hard to get the best to fight the best. Do

1692
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: Zone have been doing something special with this World Boxing

1693
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: Super Series tournament that's been going along last couple of years.

1694
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: We have the final Saturday in England of the one

1695
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: forty bracket unification fight unbeaten Regis Progray, unbeaten Josh Taylor.

1696
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: Winner will have control of that one forty division. Trying

1697
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: to set up a long range fight with Jose Ramerez,

1698
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: one of the other champions there. This is a damn

1699
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: good fight that we have to see. I think it's

1700
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: not in the afternoon in England. Program Beating managed by

1701
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: Peter Berg and Mark Wahlberg, has this should be the

1702
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: sort of breakthrough victory that he's that he's yearned. But

1703
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, when you're an American boxing fan,

1704
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: we have these stigmas of these UK guys where it say, Okay, great,

1705
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: you're great on the domestic level, come to the States

1706
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: and we'll hand you your ass. Well you know what

1707
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, we'll remove with your soul carefully and

1708
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: leave it there for you. Josh Taylor's got a backbone,

1709
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: he can fight, He's got some length. It's sort of

1710
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: classic boxer against a puncher in rugaroo. This is going

1711
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: to be a hilatious fight. Can't wait for it. Also

1712
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: on showtime this weekend, Ready, Pennsylvania. You're not gonna want

1713
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: to miss this in the main event. Junior well sorry,

1714
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: Junior middleweight prospect ericson Lubin just twenty four years old.

1715
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: We saw him in that loss to Jamal Charlo, the

1716
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: first round knockout just a couple of years ago.

1717
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: He's really rebuilt himself nicely.

1718
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Conningham's this trainer, the guy behind Devin Alexander, a

1719
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: bunch of other big champions. Lubin's got the confidence back.

1720
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: Three straight wins by knockout, sent e J. Smith into retirement.

1721
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes that looks like I can tell that it's that

1722
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Deontay Wilder is Smith right there, Sandy Smith into baronacle fighting.

1723
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: But Eric said lubin Uh turned pro at right out

1724
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 1: of high school was originally promoted by Mike Tyson's really

1725
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: becoming a.

1726
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: Thing, a softball with power.

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01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: He's got late replacement Nathaniel Gallimore, who's filling in for

1728
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: Terrell Gochet. Even though Goshet is more technical. Gallimore brings

1729
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: the heat from Jamaica. This will be a fun fight.

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: Luban could take a step forward. Love the coal main

1731
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: event as well. By the way, hard charging Adrian Granados

1732
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: against Robert Easter Junior at one forty.

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01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: Some good action's going on and help this weekend. You

1734
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: got any fun weekend planter. It's a fall.

1735
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: People don't realize unless you live in New England that

1736
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: the fall is like it's it's it's heaven. So you

1737
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: got it. You're gonna know it's gonna keep some leaves,

1738
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: turn any pumpkins into a bom.

1739
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 2: What are you go going on? Uh? You know, not

1740
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: too much.

1741
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 3: My son's just celebrated his ninth birthday, so I think

1742
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 3: we're gonna you know, do.

1743
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: Like a little party. Time to make him a man, right,

1744
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: time to make them a man. What do they do

1745
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: in your culture?

1746
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: Do they in your coloradi and culture?

1747
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, Chuck, Yeah, what is this? It has been

1748
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: a pleasure, truck. We did the business today. Appreciate having Luke.

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: We wish you a speedy comeback from South America. Enjoy

1750
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: the rest of your vacation. We got a fun weekend

1751
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: of fights ahead. I guess I won't be seeing you

1752
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: bellatour this weekend, but I'll be there for Rory Lima too.

1753
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: Follow Chuck and myself on these social media channels you

1754
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 1: see in front of you, and please on YouTube subscribe.

1755
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: Do with that solid.

1756
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: We're really getting up there, pushing twenty five k. We

1757
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: want to see this thing going to the next level.

1758
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: We want to take MK on the road. We want

1759
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: to remember wws. You stuff those in your house. Maybe

1760
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: we'll do warning combat in your house. You can serve

1761
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: me the damn calf there right, But for Chuck Minden Hall,

1762
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: your boy BC, Brian Campbell, may.

1763
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: All your dream hoseby loyal No.

1764
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: What did Luke used to say? Jump up, jump up

1765
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: and get down, keep your hands, keep your hands high.

1766
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this show's over all right.

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: We out. We're back next Monday, twelve Eastern. Be there.

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01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: You can't miss it.

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: Look, folks, we're taking over your life.

1770
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: MK Ultra is retraining your brain and brainwashing you.

1771
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: This is combat done right.

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01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: No holds Mark, We're not protecting any sponsors there, although

1773
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: we'll take your money. Chuck, thank you for filling in.

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01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: You're a member of this family. We love yank you, sir.

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: We outsatta

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Speaker 1: A