Speaker 1: Welcome to The No Sports Report, a production of our
Speaker 1: heart radio entry Fort Media. My name is Jensen Carpon.
Speaker 1: I'm a sports fan, and right when we thought we
Speaker 1: were facing the largest world problem with COVID nineteen, like
Speaker 1: Mathra joining forces with Godzilla, our country is facing a
Speaker 1: new wave of mainstream attention on the epidemic of systematic racism,
Speaker 1: and it shook us to the core. Even if sports
Speaker 1: does return in July, will the civil rights issues that
Speaker 1: we know are front and center on the minds of
Speaker 1: our most influential athletes keep them off courts and fields
Speaker 1: and hope of political change and justice. It's all very heavy,
Speaker 1: and this week we've produced the podcast a little differently.
Speaker 1: I continue to talk to athletes and sports industry professionals
Speaker 1: about how they're feeling during this unprecedented time while sports
Speaker 1: is still not in our lives. This is the No
Speaker 1: Sports Report. Michael Bennett has always admitted he's a complex
Speaker 1: guy on the field. He takes no prisoners, he's aggressive
Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl champion. At one point on the
Speaker 1: seat of Seahawks, he was a league favorite because of
Speaker 1: his pelvis thrusting celebration dance that he once described as
Speaker 1: two angels dancing while chocolate is coming from the heavens
Speaker 1: on a nice Sunday morning. The only thing better than
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett's god given skills is his personality. But alongside
Speaker 1: that outspoken humor was a desire to make change. Bennett
Speaker 1: has proven that although on Sundays he could be ruthless,
Speaker 1: outside of work, the soft spoken defensive end might care
Speaker 1: too much. He spent years supporting Black Lives Matter, created
Speaker 1: his own foundation focused on improving the health and well
Speaker 1: being of children, called himself a feminist and the toxic
Speaker 1: masculinity of the NFL, and in front of millions of fans,
Speaker 1: peacefully protested the national anthem in the name of police
Speaker 1: brutality and racial inequality by kneeling, sitting, or staying in
Speaker 1: the locker room. As a well covered victim of racial
Speaker 1: profiling himself, I wanted to speak to the now NFL
Speaker 1: free agent about what he's seen this week, what it's
Speaker 1: like to fear for your life while being held down
Speaker 1: by police, and if things might actually change this time.
Speaker 1: This is my conversation with football player Michael Bennett on
Speaker 1: the No Sports Report from Humanitarian also often of I
Speaker 1: think that make white people uncomfortable to accept press one.
Speaker 1: Hello Michael, Yeah, what's up. We'll start off by asking
Speaker 1: where you're quarantining. How have you been handling it? Your
Speaker 1: your wife, your three daughters, you guys all in the
Speaker 1: same house. Yeah, we're in the same house still in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I mean I think we've been handling pretty well. I
Speaker 1: think it is this, uh, when you are a buggy
Speaker 1: person and you used to running around and finally you
Speaker 1: get to slow down, you start to really feel like,
Speaker 1: what's the most important essential things in life? And I
Speaker 1: think you realize that and this quarantine, these are the
Speaker 1: most essential things, and it's your family and your kids,
Speaker 1: and you realize that amount of time that you get
Speaker 1: to spend with them is very short. And then once
Speaker 1: you start just being together, you realize like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't really know that. Then you just started to get
Speaker 1: re introducing yourself. I think sometimes we're relationships, you forget
Speaker 1: to water them so they don't grow as much as
Speaker 1: we want to do. And being forced to be at
Speaker 1: home a lot every day, you are forced to, you know,
Speaker 1: guard your plans and guard your relationships with your family.
Speaker 1: And I talked to a couple of athletes who are
Speaker 1: from Hawaii, and I've asked them the question of being
Speaker 1: inside in Hawaii is more torturous than you know, like
Speaker 1: being in Los Angeles or something. It's like you're looking
Speaker 1: at the water, You're looking at these beautiful things, and
Speaker 1: you can't go partaking it is that Does that just
Speaker 1: crush you at all? It's not just an incursed me
Speaker 1: at all. I think it's just a part of it.
Speaker 1: I think is the safety of the whole is more
Speaker 1: important than the one moment of being in the ocean,
Speaker 1: of being in the grass, but just being able to
Speaker 1: have time to steady and just half time to being
Speaker 1: your thoughts and half time to be inside this cocoon
Speaker 1: and hoping that you come out a different person. I
Speaker 1: think that's what has been the hardest thing, is really
Speaker 1: dealing with with yourself. I think that's more, um, it's
Speaker 1: been harder than going outside. Well, I'm honored to have
Speaker 1: you on the show today and what is obviously a
Speaker 1: very volatile time in America. For those that have followed
Speaker 1: your career and activism closely, they would know that you've
Speaker 1: been on the front lines of this subject for a
Speaker 1: very long time. So I wanted to start first by
Speaker 1: asking what went through your mind when you saw the
Speaker 1: video of the just absolutely tragic George Floyd murder. For me,
Speaker 1: I think all the videos, when you look at the
Speaker 1: death of African American man's historically, it's just it's the
Speaker 1: lack of humanity. I think when you are looking at
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't see the other person's life, doesn't have
Speaker 1: any value in any think that this third job to
Speaker 1: end it. When you look at the George Ford case,
Speaker 1: you see a man who is constantly trying to reclaim
Speaker 1: his humanity and his dignity. Bobby minding the officer that
Speaker 1: he has a mother, and that he has a wife,
Speaker 1: and that he has kids and he wishes to see
Speaker 1: them again. I'm not resistant. A chess want to survive,
Speaker 1: a chess want to live. I think we're looking at
Speaker 1: this in this video. We're looking at a group of
Speaker 1: people in America who just want to live, who just
Speaker 1: want to be safe, who just want to have the
Speaker 1: opportunity two do what the constitution said, who have been
Speaker 1: a part of this country and have been a part
Speaker 1: of this fabric. Even though they're just has been traumatic.
Speaker 1: They still pay taxes, they still follow their laws, and
Speaker 1: they just want to exist. And I think when we
Speaker 1: see somebody's life slowly being drained out of them and
Speaker 1: we watched it, our heart becomes our heart becomes torn,
Speaker 1: our minds become numb because we're seeing so much death
Speaker 1: so often for watching another black man die, it becomes
Speaker 1: so normalized in America. It's like we're watching reality TV.
Speaker 1: But the reality TV isn't scripted, but it's almost like
Speaker 1: it's scripted because the show always in exactly the same
Speaker 1: it ends in the death. Yeah, and and being raised
Speaker 1: in Texas, which is extremely segregated between the rich and
Speaker 1: the four especially in Dallas, I know, and uh, you
Speaker 1: can have wildly different experiences from one side of the
Speaker 1: state to the other. Did did you and your family
Speaker 1: run into a lot of races in white supremacy growing up?
Speaker 1: Racism and our supremacy is is pretty I feel like
Speaker 1: it's noted in Texas, and it's woven into the history.
Speaker 1: If you think about June Team, and if you think
Speaker 1: about you drive because the originally for Louisianna and having
Speaker 1: to drive to certain parts of Texas and hoping that
Speaker 1: you don't run out of gas because you know that
Speaker 1: there's a reality that there's you're gonna have to deal
Speaker 1: with something, maybe the k K K. Maybe who knows
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have to deal with if you stop
Speaker 1: then Invider and I always thought, even with the James
Speaker 1: burd situation in Jasper, that always it was a sense
Speaker 1: of um danger. Always felt like there's a danger for
Speaker 1: life when the police because growing up in in the
Speaker 1: neighbors I grew up, we thought about the police. We
Speaker 1: didn't think about the story historical, you know, think that
Speaker 1: the cartoon was like they helping you take the cat
Speaker 1: out the tree and doing all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: We always felt like it was like the opposite. It
Speaker 1: was like they were vilified because people were horrified of
Speaker 1: them because the history of black people being police point
Speaker 1: I thought, growing up, we are always felt that heat
Speaker 1: of that on my back. It was like this crowd
Speaker 1: spider at my spine. There's of conscious fear of what
Speaker 1: am I going to be? Yeah, totally. It's something that
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us. When I say us,
Speaker 1: I mean white people are starting to sort of try
Speaker 1: to understand. I don't think we ever will fully understand it,
Speaker 1: but to hear those words over and over this week
Speaker 1: has been very powerful, and we fast forward to two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen when you had your own experience with police
Speaker 1: brutality and racial profiling in Vegas, where cops used successive
Speaker 1: force on you and threatened to blow your head off,
Speaker 1: and though you had nothing to do with what they
Speaker 1: were looking for it and yet it seemed like it
Speaker 1: was pulling teeth to get them the answer for their actions.
Speaker 1: I mean, even when I did research going into this interview,
Speaker 1: I can't really get them apologizing. I can't find anything.
Speaker 1: They seemed to have immediately went on the defensive. What
Speaker 1: did you learn from that experience? You, Uh, facing it firsthand?
Speaker 1: I had me in my back. I felt the feeling
Speaker 1: that can't breathe, and I felt I wanted to exist,
Speaker 1: not to be deleted from the universe. I felt all that,
Speaker 1: I felt the heat, I felt the history, what it
Speaker 1: what it was, the threat of death, the threat of
Speaker 1: losing my life. And and what I learned from that
Speaker 1: was that as a black man, we really don't have that.
Speaker 1: I didn't have value on my life the way that
Speaker 1: every other American felt. Felt that the police, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, they were going to protect their
Speaker 1: own there wasn't going to protect the citizen who had
Speaker 1: been wronged. And and then that I felt like that
Speaker 1: that line he was it was a line drawn between
Speaker 1: protecting that their own and actually protecting the citizens rights
Speaker 1: to exist. If you make a mistake and you thought
Speaker 1: somebody was the wrong person, you should apologist. Hey I
Speaker 1: thought you get a wrong person. Everybody was running, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But that never happened. So it was like
Speaker 1: I was I was just upon. I wasn't didn't I
Speaker 1: wasn't a human. I was a thing that didn't didn't
Speaker 1: have a voice. And I think the only reason people
Speaker 1: past you was because I was an athlete and because
Speaker 1: I was a high profile person. If anything goes, it
Speaker 1: had just been swoop up into the road. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and now we see the protests and riots and
Speaker 1: cities and other countries. But when you see this on television,
Speaker 1: there's there's clearly a narrative going on between the word
Speaker 1: sugs versus the oppressed. What do you see when you
Speaker 1: look at it at a larger scale of what's happening
Speaker 1: around the world. I think we're looking at the power.
Speaker 1: We're looking at suffering, and we're looking at that what
Speaker 1: comes with power is a sacrifice, suggestice. We're looking at
Speaker 1: people who are in power and they have done so
Speaker 1: much to become into a power that they have created
Speaker 1: so much injustice for those at the bottom. And we're
Speaker 1: looking at people who are screaming and try to reclaim
Speaker 1: their humanity and they dignity to have a voice. We're
Speaker 1: looking at a war on poverty in the in the world.
Speaker 1: We're looking at one man having one chillion dollars. We're
Speaker 1: looking at people wanting water, fair water. We're that people
Speaker 1: wanted fair treatment. It's just beyond just the death of
Speaker 1: George Floyd. The death of George Ford is the fire
Speaker 1: that ignited the world's pain and the world's engine to
Speaker 1: want to have equality in every single fact of the world.
Speaker 1: And I think we're looking at anger, we're looking at love,
Speaker 1: we're looking at passion, we're looking at trauma, We're looking
Speaker 1: at all types of things. We're looking at a system
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be protecting and the government who's
Speaker 1: supposed to be governing his people and reflecting the issues
Speaker 1: of his people. It has not been recognized. And now
Speaker 1: we're looking at the traumatic experiences of everybody else being
Speaker 1: put out into the streets, and people don't know how
Speaker 1: to react to people don't know what to do because
Speaker 1: they've been asking and being patient and being peaceful, and
Speaker 1: now people are at the point we're fighting. Is their
Speaker 1: first option, you know, their first their second option? Now
Speaker 1: they're fighting is this thing does fight to survive? If
Speaker 1: I don't fight, how am I going to survive? And
Speaker 1: now we are here the president who doesn't know, who
Speaker 1: doesn't have the common sense to connect what's happening into
Speaker 1: the world and what's happening to his people. He has
Speaker 1: to control of these people. He's had the control of
Speaker 1: America and has done nothing but perpetuate more hate and
Speaker 1: more division between the citizens. And he's made more barriers
Speaker 1: between the color of people's game, between the wealth gap
Speaker 1: in America and everything is happening at one time. And
Speaker 1: I believe that the COVID nineteen really showed what America
Speaker 1: has been really focused on it and it's the economy.
Speaker 1: When we have a hundred thousand people who have deaf
Speaker 1: and you have somebody who is numb to one death,
Speaker 1: then we have an issue because you're seeing the people
Speaker 1: die every single day and you're not recognizing the numbness
Speaker 1: and the pain that each person feels when they lose somebody.
Speaker 1: So we didn't want a lot of things, and they
Speaker 1: think that the thing, the most important thing that we're
Speaker 1: dealing with, we're dealing with a spiritually bankrupt system. That
Speaker 1: there's more more with Michael Bennett after this right now,
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Speaker 1: org backslash COVID nineteen. Now here's the rest of my
Speaker 1: chat with NFL alignment and co host of the podcast Mouthpiece,
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett. You've been vocal about your support of Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter over the past few years, even when it
Speaker 1: wasn't the cool thing to do, and this week, more
Speaker 1: than ever, there is so much going on about them
Speaker 1: and around them, smear campaigns and assumptions of what they are,
Speaker 1: and disinformation on the internet. What is it that drew
Speaker 1: you to that organization specifically? What you mean was the
Speaker 1: idea that that black lives matter. I grew up in
Speaker 1: the idea that when I watched TV, when I look
Speaker 1: at the world, that black lives don't matter. Here's somebody
Speaker 1: saying that I matter. And I think people are offended.
Speaker 1: But the concept of somebody saying that a particular people matter.
Speaker 1: See what happens with privileges that as soon as somebody
Speaker 1: says that they have privileged, that makes another person. I
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge that your privilege isn't over my privilege,
Speaker 1: But the privilege to live is the privilege of every
Speaker 1: single human being, and I think that that shouldn't affect
Speaker 1: anybody else. To start process for saying that black lives matter,
Speaker 1: that women lives matter, they do. At this point, we're
Speaker 1: dealing with the issue that our black brother and around
Speaker 1: the world lives have been lost on the deity and
Speaker 1: we watch it every single day, and so that was
Speaker 1: a draw drew me to the situation. But it also
Speaker 1: drew me is that this is an opportunity for us
Speaker 1: as people to use our platform to talk about the
Speaker 1: humanity of another person and the humanity of what connects
Speaker 1: each person to enter connection between us. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, everybody's blood is read, and the most
Speaker 1: important commodity on the planet is the human being. As
Speaker 1: much as we don't want to agree that, we want
Speaker 1: to talk about black culture and love black culture, but
Speaker 1: the commodity of the black man, or the black woman,
Speaker 1: the black child, the black school, the black existence is
Speaker 1: important because they're human beings. And I think we overlooked
Speaker 1: the fact that human beings exists. And I think because
Speaker 1: if you look at the historical context of African American
Speaker 1: person was never a full human being. They never had
Speaker 1: the right to feel human being. We had to go
Speaker 1: to court, We had to go to court. We literally
Speaker 1: had to go to court and get a judgment. But
Speaker 1: it's a pretty court to say that we are a
Speaker 1: full human being. And that is amazing. But that's the
Speaker 1: history of the country. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: white people have failed to forgift, have forgotten the story
Speaker 1: of the other people around us. And I think Black
Speaker 1: Lives Matter reminds us that there is a story. There
Speaker 1: is a story belong before Martin became There's a story
Speaker 1: of slavery and what has that done to our society.
Speaker 1: We're looking at the grandchildren of those slaves. We're looking
Speaker 1: at the grandchildren of pain. We're looking at the grandchildren
Speaker 1: of so many things that have happened to their forefathers,
Speaker 1: that this is the only way that they feel is
Speaker 1: to bring the light unto the history of what has
Speaker 1: happened and the traumatic situations. Would be an African American
Speaker 1: in America, and you've participated in peaceful protests in the past,
Speaker 1: taking a knee during the anthem or state, staying seated
Speaker 1: or waiting in the locker room, kind of following early
Speaker 1: leads from from Colin Kaepernick. You were endlessly criticized for
Speaker 1: doing that. And now we see non peaceful protests in
Speaker 1: the streets, and now that is problematic as well. Does
Speaker 1: this give black people a mixed message? How can you
Speaker 1: actually protest? The problem is that we're protests in the system,
Speaker 1: and whatever we protest and how we do it is
Speaker 1: constantly going to affect the people who think they know right.
Speaker 1: But the people who think they know right. They never
Speaker 1: do right. They think there's this way to protest, this
Speaker 1: this way, What is the what is the boy to protest?
Speaker 1: When you want to live, When you want to live
Speaker 1: in your dreg there you're fighting to survive out that water.
Speaker 1: When you're running when you reward somebody should and you've
Speaker 1: running the sacs you can, you're trying to survive. What
Speaker 1: is the right way to survive? I don't know what
Speaker 1: the right way to survive is. All that know is
Speaker 1: there's many people trying to survive, and there isn't a goddess.
Speaker 1: But the people who have all the answers on how
Speaker 1: to protest aren't the people telling us how to survive.
Speaker 1: There aren't making the rules that people feel like they
Speaker 1: could survive. They're only sitting in the room and saying
Speaker 1: the world, this isn't the way I could do it,
Speaker 1: this is how I wouldn't do But the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it is about surviving and living and creating
Speaker 1: a future for their kids and our kids. And like
Speaker 1: I said, peaceful protests wherever, type of protests, but at
Speaker 1: some point their voice has got to be heard. It's
Speaker 1: on the government of the United States to stand up
Speaker 1: and speak for its people. But if those people don't
Speaker 1: have values, then what's the question If white men we're
Speaker 1: going and white men were getting drug out their car,
Speaker 1: shot in their head and pulled out, and then have
Speaker 1: the rules, guess what will happened? Do you know? Boston
Speaker 1: Party would happened to? The American Revolution will happen. These
Speaker 1: are the things that have happened to white people. And
Speaker 1: they fought for the independence with the against the monarch
Speaker 1: gave the British. They wanted to be. Really, they wanted
Speaker 1: to create a new country. The idea of America, the
Speaker 1: idea of the ideology of what Americas is supposed to be.
Speaker 1: It sounds so great, it sounds so dignified, But the actualogy,
Speaker 1: the people within that system that is supposed to be
Speaker 1: upholding that idea have been spiritually bankrupt and morally corrupt
Speaker 1: that they can't even see what it means to what
Speaker 1: people are fighting for the same thing that they were
Speaker 1: fighting for, but they're only fighting for what was promised
Speaker 1: to them. Well, you've always been sort of in front
Speaker 1: of the league before everyone else, calling yourself a feminist,
Speaker 1: aligning yourself with numerous clean food charities, which was something
Speaker 1: I had never really heard of in the NFL. At
Speaker 1: least you've criticized the toxic masculinity in the league. You
Speaker 1: supported Bernie Sanders presidential bids twice. What makes you unable
Speaker 1: to follow when people say to just shut up and play? What?
Speaker 1: What is the importance in speaking up for you? I
Speaker 1: think the importance is my children. I think the idea
Speaker 1: that if I want my children to have a voice,
Speaker 1: and I want them to speak up and I want
Speaker 1: them to be a certain way, do they need to
Speaker 1: local TV to find inspiration? Was it important for them
Speaker 1: to find inspiration at home and you see that their
Speaker 1: father and their mother stood up for what was right
Speaker 1: all the time. And also the ability to have a platform,
Speaker 1: the ability of free will. You know, when you think
Speaker 1: about the Biblical tooriums and you think about religion in
Speaker 1: this point right, free will is the think that the
Speaker 1: devil fought for and we left the heaven for free
Speaker 1: will is a burden, and so what our free will,
Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest things that we have. And
Speaker 1: what our free will be choosing to do wrong, then
Speaker 1: that's shame on us. But the free will to will,
Speaker 1: you neighbor, to will, the situation, to bring others to
Speaker 1: the light that are in the darkness, the sickness, the
Speaker 1: opportunity to people who are sick, to bring them, to help,
Speaker 1: to people who don't have food, to give them food.
Speaker 1: That is the reason of being at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I do it is because it is the
Speaker 1: reason that for a living is to build a community.
Speaker 1: Is not just to be in my capitalistic mindset. And
Speaker 1: I think what's happened in America and what has happened
Speaker 1: to us. We have become so capitalistic and materialistic that
Speaker 1: we've forgotten that every time we have a luxury, it
Speaker 1: preys suffering. And I think it's important that we remember.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I speak, because people are
Speaker 1: literally suffering every single day. And I speak on all
Speaker 1: these issues because there are people suffering who want help
Speaker 1: and who need it, and people like us, it's a
Speaker 1: bee and an obligation to stand upon our forefather's shoulders
Speaker 1: and continuously build these bridges that other people can see
Speaker 1: and bring light and continue to bring help to others.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything else, honestly, And I know you've
Speaker 1: become friends with John Carlos over the years. Who do
Speaker 1: you look to as mentors or idols for for this
Speaker 1: kind of activism and speaking up. I think John Carlos
Speaker 1: for sure. I think historically I love breathing Martin ud
Speaker 1: King because I feel like Martin Luther King was such
Speaker 1: a complicated human being. I think about the intellectual that
Speaker 1: he was. I think, um, I love reading his stuff.
Speaker 1: Just those people. I just look up to John College
Speaker 1: for sure because he lived in and Dr Harry Edwards,
Speaker 1: Berney Brown, people like them. So it's not also about racist,
Speaker 1: also about understanding the mindset of human beings and what
Speaker 1: do people want in life and how they figure all
Speaker 1: those things out on top of the social issues, on
Speaker 1: top of racism, but also just the ability to live
Speaker 1: in the world to live. So there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I followed like that. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, there's so many great people who are
Speaker 1: great leaders. And whoever listen to this podcast or where
Speaker 1: you go out, I would just challenge you, whoever listened
Speaker 1: to this is to challenge yourself, is to look in
Speaker 1: the mirror. I think we live in this situation. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to round belong, but I need to say this.
Speaker 1: Please keep going. I think we live in this world.
Speaker 1: We personify everything that we want people to think of us,
Speaker 1: and we look. We make Instagram, we make Facebook, we
Speaker 1: make twitters so people can see who we want them
Speaker 1: to see us and who we are. But I want
Speaker 1: us to really look in the mirror. And I think
Speaker 1: sometimes looking in the mirror is the hardest thing because
Speaker 1: when you put on makeup, you put on clothes, you
Speaker 1: can't see the scars. But when we look in the mirror,
Speaker 1: we see our emotional scars. You see who we are.
Speaker 1: And I will challenge just to really look in the
Speaker 1: mirror and really ask ourselves what have we really done
Speaker 1: the change the culture, change the tradition, change the lives
Speaker 1: of other people. And if we look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and we don't see that, I think we need to
Speaker 1: really go out and really obtain changing. Man, It's not
Speaker 1: just about Instagram and Twitter and Facebook. Is about really
Speaker 1: getting your hands into the soil and really play and
Speaker 1: the seed that can grow and a tree that really
Speaker 1: bears fruit. You know that bears love, that bears humbleness,
Speaker 1: the bears faith that bears loyalty that does so much
Speaker 1: more than just about me, me, me, It's really about
Speaker 1: the whole. And I think we in this moment where
Speaker 1: everybody is starting to realize is looking in the mirror
Speaker 1: and realizing that it's about the whole. If the arm
Speaker 1: isn't working, the leg is working, if the heart is working.
Speaker 1: That you did it is like the body needs every
Speaker 1: part of it. And we think about the whole human
Speaker 1: being with a whole a part of one body, and
Speaker 1: when one person where one part of our body hurts,
Speaker 1: the whole body feels it. And I think if we
Speaker 1: start thinking like this, who united is to really see
Speaker 1: that it's really the system that we need to be adjusted.
Speaker 1: And it just goes so far everything you're saying, I mean,
Speaker 1: it really shows. I mean, I know you've been on
Speaker 1: this way for a long time and everything we're facing
Speaker 1: this week for years you've been talking about and it's
Speaker 1: put you in the spotlight and it's negatively affected your
Speaker 1: wallet in the past. I mean, you're you're you're talking
Speaker 1: about this change. Do you think we're going to see
Speaker 1: any actual change? And I don't mean to make you
Speaker 1: say glass half emptier, glass half full? But should I
Speaker 1: have optimism now? I think we're shu there is some optimism.
Speaker 1: I think the limitations on our human mind and our
Speaker 1: ability to see the future is just been really blurry
Speaker 1: because there's not a moment in the reality or at
Speaker 1: that time that we ever can remember harmony. All we
Speaker 1: know is fighting, and all we know is kill us.
Speaker 1: All we know is taken. So I do think it's
Speaker 1: time for a light in the future because I think
Speaker 1: we're starting to get to this point where we started
Speaker 1: to transfer transro main into something more than just body
Speaker 1: that God was up a flesh that only harvenesses and eats.
Speaker 1: We're starting to look into our spirit and started to
Speaker 1: fulfill our spirit. So I do think there's a possibility
Speaker 1: that the future is going to be burned because I
Speaker 1: think a generation is judged on the kids, and I
Speaker 1: think the kids and this generation are really the ones
Speaker 1: who are really ruled in the change in America, just
Speaker 1: like it was in the sixties, was the kids is
Speaker 1: the young people twenty five and younger. And now you're
Speaker 1: seeing people who are sixteen and young girl in these
Speaker 1: streets who not with the America. And there aren't just
Speaker 1: black kids. There's a white kids of her and spending kids,
Speaker 1: and they're the ones who haven't been tainted with all
Speaker 1: these other ways to oppress other people. They're thinking as
Speaker 1: as a whole human race when we think about climate turning.
Speaker 1: And you see that young girl brother's standing up there,
Speaker 1: she's talking from a young person perspective. So this is
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. I think we're seeing that the young
Speaker 1: people are are upset about the future of this country
Speaker 1: and what they're being left with. They're being left with
Speaker 1: a presidential Canada and Canada. They being left with president
Speaker 1: forty five being Donald Trump. I mean, if I died
Speaker 1: Barack Obama was my last president, I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm good, you know. But people are dying with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump being their last president, dying with a leader who's
Speaker 1: starting of hate. They're dying with that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: in their heart. That can't be a peaceful way to though. No.
Speaker 1: And and finally, you have a new podcast with your
Speaker 1: white pay Let's called Mouthpiece, And I know you're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about a lot of this stuff. And I
Speaker 1: just want to know, what do you and your wife
Speaker 1: tell your daughters about the events this week? Um, telling
Speaker 1: my daughter, my owliest daughter, really, because trying to get
Speaker 1: her to understand about researching and the importance of researching
Speaker 1: and the importance of understanding what's happening around you and
Speaker 1: how you could be used for a negative for positive.
Speaker 1: So just really talking about having the positive impact has
Speaker 1: showing them that, look, there's a lot of people upset
Speaker 1: and how you feel, please tell us? And I think
Speaker 1: at this moment, I really can't tell our kids. We
Speaker 1: really are trying to listen to them and say hey,
Speaker 1: what are you affected it? And there's been so many
Speaker 1: things conversations burned up that have been amazing because you
Speaker 1: never know how young kids are thinking. So I would
Speaker 1: advise everybody's listened to this. I think you guys should
Speaker 1: actually kids, how do you feeling. I know we want
Speaker 1: to tell them how to feel, but at this moment,
Speaker 1: I actually think you should listen to them how they should. Well.
Speaker 1: I I greatly appreciate you talking to me today, and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people around the sports world
Speaker 1: and world in general, including myself, I've looked to you
Speaker 1: for a lot of these kind of answers and at
Speaker 1: least your insight, and I know people would appreciate it.
Speaker 1: So I thank you for giving me the time. Well,
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