WEBVTT - Die Hard with Debra DiGiovanni 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:04.560 On the Dog Cast, the questions asked if movies have woenium, 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.800 are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands, or do 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:13.320 they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef and best start changing 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.239 it with the beck dol Cast. Good evening, everyone, and 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.919 walk up to the show. Please let me walk up 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:30.280 the stage, Caleta Jamie. Welcome, Yes, thank you. How are 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:34.519 you guys? Are you guys good? You're good. We are 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.959 celebrating our one year anniversary. So thanks for coming out 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:43.519 and celebrating with us. Has everybody heard? By round of applauses? Everybody? 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:49.440 I heard it before? Or did you just wander? Okay? Okay, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.080 so by round of applause? Who has never listened to 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.480 an episode of the beckdel Cast? Oh and they're all 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.920 sitting in the front row. Good, so we can just 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.320 stare you. But actually you wouldn't understand this is a 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.320 reference to a past thing we've not Yeah, just a 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.840 few things. Probably going to mention Alfred Molina for no 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.759 reason for I mean, but like I think the list 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:15.880 of reasons not to talk about Alfred Molina is very short. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.279 For those of you who don't know what the Bechtel 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.840 Cast is or you're like, hey, what am I getting 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.040 into when you talk about the portrayal of women in movies? 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:25.840 We do it film by film. Every week we have 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.840 a new movie that we tear apart, and then our 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.400 fans are like, oh, thanks for ruining this movie for us, 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.200 and today will be no different and hearts will be 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.280 break and hearts will be broken today. Yeah. So we've 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.400 been doing it for a year now. I've had fifty 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:45.039 two individual different guests. They've all been great. If they 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:48.800 were men, they for sure interrupted us many times. Oh yeah, 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.240 there there is not even the male guests we've had 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.600 that are near and dear or hard great friends. There's 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.760 been I mean no short of five times where you're 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.919 just like and the PA triarchy is back, like yeah, actually, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.640 here's what I think about Harrison Ford just like like 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:12.239 it's it's been a real years. Hands. Also, if you 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.200 know you're like what Bechtel, what does that mean? I'll 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:19.119 tell you who it's. And she made a test called 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.040 the Bechtel test, and it requires that a movie has 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.760 at least one scene where there's a single conversation between 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.440 two women. They have to speak to each other, and 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.400 their conversation has to be about something other than a man. 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.880 Preferably those characters have names. Yeah, we we prefer for 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.000 them to have names, just as you would in real life. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.480 There's what if people like what if someone went back 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.320 and they're like, the Becktel cast is never because they're 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.080 only talking about Alfred Molina. Honestly, I think that Alfred 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.760 Molina is an exception to the test. And if it's 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.760 two women with names talking about Alfred Molina, it's stiff 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:58.240 has test personally. That's my belief. Sure, so all it 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.720 takes just for the record, because I feel like we 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.040 get this uh a lot is It only takes two 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.120 lines of dialogue. It doesn't have to be a whole scene. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:12.000 Just literally, Hi, Caitlin, shut up. Jamie passes done easy 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.440 every day with that many times. Yeah, we've had that 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:19.840 very conversation leave my home, you know. So that's all 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.160 it takes. Hey, should we bring out our guests? I 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.160 think we should. This is our first time second time whoa, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.040 this is our first second time guest on the Bechtel Cast, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.360 big on or really a band or not? For everybody? 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.320 Oh I see, okay, it's our first repeat guest. Yeah, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.840 so this is our first repeat guest. You heard her 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.360 last year on Our Love Actually episode, lots of hearts 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:48.520 were broken because that movie is garbage. It's a bad movie. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.800 It's bad for women, it's bad for the world. But 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.800 we're so thrilled to have her back. Yes, sure, should 0:03:54.840 --> 0:04:03.280 we say in unison, I would love to please welcome. Hey, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:20.240 does everybody want to give a big clap for goodness? Hello? Girls, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:23.799 good to be back, good to see you, Hello, live audience, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:29.640 group of humans, a full How are you? It's a 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.960 very stress name. It's a lot. We love your name. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:37.800 It's perfect goodness. Okay, well, so how are you doing 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.760 a quick checken? Yeah? I'm good, Yeah, good, everything's fine. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.800 I have a puffy eye. Let's move on. We're talking 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:50.320 about we were talking. Don't no eye contact? I got 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:56.800 it in my rider. Yeah. Also, you'll turn to stone apparently, 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.240 that's what I'm saying. It's good. I think my hair 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:00.880 looks a little better than that. But let's move on. 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:05.680 It looks great, but I got not what's important. Okay, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:12.480 we're talking about die Hard? Has everybody round? Who has 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.600 everybody seen Diehard? Yes? I heard round of a place. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.039 Who has not seen die I got a bunch of 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.960 people in the front row. Yeah, like people are here 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:29.640 to be seen and bullied. Yeah. Sorry, Wait, you both 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.360 clapped your hands for someone who has never listened to 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.760 the podcast, nor have you seen die Hard? Amazing? Do 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:40.000 you know where you are right now? There's the last 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.560 live episode we did. My mother was sitting in the 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.040 front row and she was loudly antagonizing us for the 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:51.840 duration of the episode and hitting on our guests very aggressively. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.960 Oh she was there. She was like, she just kept saying, 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.760 just screaming it for no reason. I know, it's nineties. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:05.279 It was yeah, I'm sorry, I am now Jill screaming 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.159 and then yeah, and then our friend was flirting with 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.479 our friend who later was like, do you think I 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.400 have a shot? Oh my god? Who was the guest 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:20.040 who was flirting which listen, Oh no, that's okay, it's triggering. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:26.000 He's my dad now, so he is just my actual father. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.640 This podcast is ruined my life. I have a father 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.560 who is my age. Yeah, he takes me out. We 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:42.640 played basketball together. So die Hard, I will do the 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:50.520 Lynn's famous recap all right? Uh And as always, Caitlyn's 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.560 recap was made to be interrupted. Yes, although I read 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.479 I wrote something out this time, and I might just 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.880 read it because I didn't. I wanted this to be 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.800 a really good recap for you guys. I'll suck it 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.719 up anyway, doesn't it doesn't matter. So the story of 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.640 die Hard a Christmas story? It is? It isn't. Yeah, 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.440 let's put that to rest. It's a Christmas movie. My 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:17.120 recap does start with It's Christmas Eve? Is it? I 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.480 don't even know when this movie takes. Okay, it's Chris Christmas. Okay, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:24.280 that's my thoughts. I already have a problem. Okay, three 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.240 words into it. Work party on Christmas Eve? Right, Susan true? True? 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.240 And then we see her call her kid and she's like, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.400 you're not home on Christmas Eve and she's like, to 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:38.880 deal with a bitch. Passes the Pichtel test, but not 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:44.560 good parenting. So it is Christmas evens. Yes, I also 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.480 found that area doesn't pass like it's definitely, it's definitely. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.280 It feels like passes, but it doesn't right right right right, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.080 So it's like, I don't know, five hours or something. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.520 I don't know. Yeah, it's just a bad party. Just 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.920 just if you've ever been at a shitty party for 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:06.520 five hours, you've pretty much experienced die hard to the 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:11.920 recap RecA Okay, okay, sorry Christmas Eve and John McClane 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.960 is a New York cop flying into l A to 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:17.760 see his wife Holly. He's got a big old bear 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:21.800 and he's leering at women at the airport. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.600 he's on an airplane with a gun and he's like, no, 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.960 it's fine, I'm a cop, just hanging out of a holster, 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.959 not even properly stashed literally just in his pocket. Yeah. 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.120 And then immediately after that he yeah, he just leers 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:37.920 at a woman. So, if you weren't sure if this 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.800 movie was going to be about toxic masculinity, the first 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:45.760 five men from one of the fight attendants, she leers 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.160 at him. I think, yeah, that's the first one. I 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:49.880 made a note. I wrote it down, and we hear, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.760 and we heard. The Bettel cast love the objectification of 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.440 and this is a good movie for male objectification. There's 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:03.679 a lot of Bruce Willis just from a story perspective, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.880 slowly getting Nooter. It's a metaphor, but also he is 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:24.760 stern actively castle uncut version it's cut. Oh never mind, stop, 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:33.000 let's move on, keep going, keep going, chock recap right, right, 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:38.400 I'm one sentence into the RecA. So there's a plane, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.679 there's a gun. There's a gun, and a man who 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.839 names John McClane. He goes to his wife Holly, who's 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:47.240 at a work party at the Nakatomic Corporation, which is 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:52.240 a trading company. What do they do, trading cards? Trading cards? 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:57.080 It's pokemon, it's I don't know what it's. I don't 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.920 know what. It's a business company. It's night it's night 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.640 eighty eight. It could be anything like it could legitimately 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:06.320 be anything. For sure. Everyone's high on cocaine. Definitely, yes, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.720 without doubt. So he goes to this party in a 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.480 giant building I wrote down. In the middle of the party, 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:16.079 about a dozen German terrorists show up, led by Hans 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.600 Grouper a k a. Alan Rickman. This is I'm so 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.040 glad I wrote this down. It's going so don't understand. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.559 There's like a visual reality. When you said Hans Grouper, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.800 people started like shifting in their seats, like they had 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.920 to change their underwear or something. They're like, I don't 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.120 get it, and I think it's anonymous with a villain. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.760 Now Hans grew Yeah, Like people are just they're just 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.360 because Marty for grew. But I think it's because Rickman 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:43.440 like plays such a good villain and this might be 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:44.959 one of his first villains, you know what I mean. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.360 So now it's I'm just saying I don't know anything. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:53.720 I do not like Allen Rickman in this movie. Well, okay, there, 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.520 we'll get there, We'll get there. Okay. So the terrorists 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:00.360 take everyone at the party hostage, but they weren't counting 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:06.840 on feminist icon John McClain being there, and he really 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.679 throws a wrench into the situation. The terrorists locked down 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.200 the building and they're trying to break into these vaults 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.760 to get hundred and forty What what about the part 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:20.840 where he's in the taxi, the limo? Maybe yeah, with 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.760 our gyle, I'm gonna skip over some stuff. We're already 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.480 forty minutes the show. We've not talked about anything, can't 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.120 other for three days. Okay, there is a part where 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.960 he's in a car. Okay, keep going, yes, yes, okay. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.920 So the terrorists are trying to get these Bearer bonds. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:43.880 I think, uh sixty million dollars worth of them. The 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.160 company's ceo again, question Mark, I don't know what anyone 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.839 does Joe Takagi. Um, He's like, I'm not going to 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:53.400 give you any information. So he gets shot in the head. Meanwhile, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:59.520 feminist icons yes exactly. He kills this very Aaryan looking person, 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.360 and then he says, a sweatsuit and a sweatsuit, a 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.680 gray sweatsuit. I would love to kill a man in 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:10.120 a sweatsuit. He kills him by throwing him down some stairs, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.600 and then he sends what I like to call an 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.040 elevator graham to the terrorists. Uh. And there's a little 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.040 like sign on in this I have a machine gun. 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.920 Ho ho ho ho. Alan Rickman sure knows how to 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:29.520 make a very short line last okay. McClean is like 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.600 trying to get the cops to come, and no one 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:39.400 responds until our pal, a sidekick, Flucky Sergeant Al Powell 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:45.199 ak al Pal he arrives with the scene and then 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:52.800 he and John become best friends bromance, right, and it's 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.199 like via the lips at the end. To be honest, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.640 they really connect over a walkie talkie conver station that 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:05.600 all of the terrorists can hear, and they don't even 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.040 try to hide it. At two different times, Al says 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:14.400 both I love you and it's a date. Yeah, it's like, 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.480 I didn't remember the depth of that. Absolutely, they're a 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.400 better match than John and his own wife. Then mcclan 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.680 gets his hands on the terrorist detonators, Hans throws a fit, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:32.240 the FBI shows up, some explosions happen. John's foot is 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:37.040 bleeding a lot. I love the part where he's being 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.240 very dramatic about his bleeding foot. Yeah, he's like, tell 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.600 my wife, I'm sorry, and it's like you're fine, You're 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.920 like he gets a little like foot scrape. He's like, 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:50.480 oh my god, this has actually been really hard on me. An, 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:58.480 I actually don't know if I'm going to freaking make it. Yeah. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.439 And then finally the terrorists were able to break into 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.840 the vault to steal the bonds that they're after. Hans 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:09.480 discovers that John McClean is Holly's wife, so he's like, oh, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.920 I'm gonna kidnap you now, and then he takes her 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.480 gun point and then I forgot to finish writing the thing. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.600 But we never know how, we don't all we'll never 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:22.000 know pretty much. Yeah, he's like, oh, I'm gonna kill 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.080 your wife, and then John's like, yippy kaye, motherfucker any 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:36.440 right if he said fatherfucker toxic masculine it, yeah right. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.840 I actually don't know how the logic Networks taped the 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.160 gun to his back with bloody, sweaty back and somehow 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.720 he's with I don't know what like he's taped that 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.520 is physically impossible. I don't care much Yoga McLean does. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.640 There's no way that he's done that. I never thought 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.480 of it. But that's totally sweaty and it's not happening. Yeah, 0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.600 I'm sorry, scientifically speaking, right, because yeah, there's no tape 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.040 that unless what if he like put it all on 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.320 the ground and then like laid down on it up. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:17.080 No one is laying onto a gun that John mccle 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.320 he needs to save the women. You think that he's 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:25.000 lightly planting him his torso onto a gun, a loaded gun? 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.600 What else? How else? Okay, you know what I'm in 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.000 movie magic, alright, So yeah, then he grabs the gun 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.560 that he's lie down to. The tape left only two 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.960 and he uses them both so wisely, and he kills 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.640 the bad guys and then saves his wife and then 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:49.600 everyone's and then at and that's pretty much the end 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.160 of the movie. There we go all right. Anyway, thank you, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:57.640 this has been fun. Thanks and so Deborah, what is 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.240 your history with this movie? Now? Okay, this is this 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.840 movie was made in right, so, like I was a 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.320 young person, I was at high school, and it was 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.560 it was a big movie, like I think I remember 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.800 like it was all the boys favorites. Everyone loved it. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.640 It was ya motherfucker like, oh my god, at nausea 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:18.920 and it was it was really like it was a 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:22.560 super popular movie. And I remember like rewatching again thinking 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.960 to myself, I liked this movie. I really did. What 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.120 oh no, like it was. I was shocked to see 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.040 how it really doesn't hold up. But in we loved it. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.440 It was great. The boys love to love. People still 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.720 do love. I mean, would they make seventeen Diehards now 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.040 like they made five six five? Right? So as recently 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.440 as like what year four years ago? You know I'm 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.400 making that up? Is that even I like less than 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.000 ten years ago? Right? Yeah? Like die Hard with it 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.880 with a vengeance? Yeah, god, you know what I mean. 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.800 I like to chill out. First of all, the title 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:59.120 die hard is like, what does that even mean? It's 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.000 hard to die? It's hard to die? It's not apparently 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.960 I've been thinking about it a lot. Okay, so I 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.800 was like, maybe it's they have die hard beliefs, right, 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.000 and then I but then I thought about I was like, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.320 no one in this movie has diehard beliefs. They all 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.560 seem pretty willing to just be like, oh, that person 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.320 is dead. Well, I guess this is my friend now, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.160 like they're everyone is constantly. John can't even explain why 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:24.760 he wants to stay in New York. He's like, because 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:30.399 I'm from there, and uh so I said, fuck my 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.680 wife and fuck my kids, and I'm not gonna move. 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.400 That's not a die hard belief. That's just dumb. Yeah. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.520 So it's not that people are they're dying in ways 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.080 that don't seem easy. I guess that, right. Like German. 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.080 Let's say the ballerina, the professional ballerina, you know him, 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.400 the one the long hair. He was, he was a ballerina. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.879 Let's move on. I don't mean to alarm any It 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.440 was big in the eighties. Let's move on. I think 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.600 he dated Jacqueline bits that I'm an old woman. Let's 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.040 move on. All right, back story, he's the one that 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.280 gets hung and then lives, so it was hard for 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:04.959 him to die that he's the one that comes out 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.760 of the end, another very aryan looking person. Yes, right, okay, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.680 can you say about Grouper's accent, like, is he he's 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.600 a british Man living in Germany or something, because he's 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:20.520 British the entire time they speak Germans. We were right, 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.320 Caleen and I were watching this movie the other night 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:28.720 in her bed, as we do most episodes. There. No, 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.440 but his his accent is crummy. It's bad, really, it 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.040 really is. Yeah, it's just him. I think that is 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.520 was Frickman. He was British ry. Yeah, I think it 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.440 was just him being him and then every once in 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.639 a while German and then he would do at some 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.520 point someone would give me. I posted something to that 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.200 effect on Facebook recently, and I had no less than 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.760 six men being like, actually, he's actually very authentic and good. 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.200 Here's the lake to the thing. It's just like I'm 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.200 gonna kill you, Like they're just this. I didn't even 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.720 realize we did our Love Actually episode with you. This 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:09.640 is the second Ellen Rickman, Christmas Rickman and Christmas what Okay, 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.159 we're gonna have tore The third one is gonna have 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.200 to be may he rest But we're gonna have to 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:15.520 figure something that we'll have to get his Christmas movies 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:17.560 or something. And in front of it, yeah, because I mean, 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.880 well in last year, like late twenty sixteen, you had 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.040 to every time, was I think every time way said Alan, 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.680 people were like Riman. Now it's the end of two 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.160 thousand seventeen and I feel fine being like I don't 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.800 like it in this movie Rest in Paradise. But I 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.680 didn't like it, bitch, I did not like, did not 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.800 like it. I don't. Yeah, his his accent is super 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.879 because the German people he's with are very clearly German, 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.240 like they are laying it like there their German. And 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.439 then he's he could take it or leave it enough 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.240 for a German accent. He's like, I'm not gonna try, 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.879 and a half trying is not in his rider. Jamie, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.119 what's your history with the movie. I only saw this 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.200 movie two years ago, and I went like shortly after 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.280 I moved here, and I lived with this woman who 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.000 was very exhausting, and she was just like, you haven't 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:14.920 seen the d and so then she made me stay 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.440 inside for a whole night and watch this movie with 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.919 her and her ex boyfriend, and I sat in between them, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.159 and then you know, he left and she was just like, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:25.920 why were you flirting with him? I was like, I 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:35.480 was like, I wasn't you made me stay here? So 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:39.119 I saw it two years ago. That's my whole history 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.320 with Amazing. I saw, I think for the first time, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:44.920 probably like ten years ago. I didn't grow up with 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.280 the movie, but I've only seen that. You watch it, 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.120 do you remember, like was it your choice or yeah? 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.040 Because I was like, I was getting her master's degree. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:58.240 I need to watch a lot of movies telling me 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:03.480 in screenwriting, in screen right from Boston University. From Boston University, 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.800 you have a I don't like to bring it up. 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:11.400 What sorry? What was it? A masters in screen Wow? 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:13.000 That's can we just give her a quick run of 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:18.639 a plane? Let's give it up from our higher education? Yeah? Wow. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:20.520 So yeah, I was just like, I have to see 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.800 so many movies. And then I just watched it, and 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.159 my feelings are that it's not a bad movie. I 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.040 generally enjoy the first forty five minutes of it, and 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.680 then I get pretty bored of just like, oh, it's 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:39.359 John McClane running through an empty room again and he 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:44.640 is talking to himself a lot. Yeah, so, yeah, it's 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.879 always too macho for me. I think, I don't. I 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:49.560 don't remember. I don't. I don't think I ever saw 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.159 the second one, but I know what took place on 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.600 a plane, an airport, airport, the whole thing. Well, and 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.840 we do know in the second movie. This is as 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:58.240 far as I looked into it, but we do know, 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.359 which directly affect how we view the end of the 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.800 first movie that he does end up moving to Los 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:08.040 Angeles to be with his wife, so, which is good 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.480 because he couldn't explain why he was doing what he 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:11.840 was doing in the first place. He was just like, 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.600 I'm an asshole, and so at the end he's like, 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.480 my wife is smarter and has more money than me, 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.479 which you know, men don't like. Very It was all 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.800 very like semi disgusting though, when he's talking to the 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:24.560 guy on the plane about his wife and she got 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.360 a job that turned into a career, like a bit, 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.960 how dare she? You know what I mean? It's like that, 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:32.359 It really is. It's all like my little woman is 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:37.600 working and it's it's it's really and that conversation kind 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.680 of carries over into the next thing with Argyle, where 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.680 Argyles like laughing at John and saying like, oh, you 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.040 thought she was gonna like fail and then she'd have 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.160 to move back and be with you. And he's kind 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:52.080 of like, He's like you definitely was like seventeen. I 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.720 don't think he should be a professional limo driver, but 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.000 does he have a driver's to be honest, Yeah, but 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.760 it's really kind of grossy in a icon Argyle Actually no, 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.800 he he talks about he's what's the point where he's 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.320 on the phone and he's like, yeah, bibb, I would 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.160 never lie to you over I was like, oh, man, 0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:18.639 I've dated him first, so to piggyback on what you 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.879 were saying. Yeah, So there's a whole subplot. I like 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:28.080 to call it John mcclean's insecurities about Holly Gennaro Yes 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.360 and her career because he has the conversation with Argyle 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.320 about how he's like, I didn't think she was gonna 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.600 be good at her job, and then he finds out 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.960 that she's going by her maiden name and she blames 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.040 it on the fact that it's a Japanese company or something. Right, Yeah, 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.320 it's like they're Japanese. They don't want me to be married. 0:23:48.359 --> 0:23:49.800 I'm like, what does that mean. I don't think that 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.960 means unclear. But then you find out all this stuff 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:57.520 about her as a career woman. She's the director of 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.560 corporate affairs. I read it on the door of her office, 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.960 or they don't tell you you had to research. Look, 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:09.119 I had to Everything business like in this movie is 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:14.760 extremely right. Director of corporate affairs. What is that? Did 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:17.639 you see the watch? She got a fancy watch? Right, 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:21.320 we'll give the little lady a little little sparkly like, 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:23.680 because that's sparkle to keep her quiet. I don't know. 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:27.639 And it seems like no matter what your title it 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:30.000 because director of corporate affairs. And they were like, her 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:35.119 specialty is negotiation. And then but then there's the the 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:39.960 the who he's like, also, my skill is negotiating, Like, 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.520 do you guys all have the same? Are you all interns? Yeah? 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.680 What is this? What is sisipany? I don't know. The 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.440 point is that a lot of them do talk about 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:50.840