1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World head hours at 4 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 5 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Salutations from Mickey Spagnola on 6 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: a Tuesday at the Star in Frisco, a post draft 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys. As we are now less than 8 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: three months away from the Cowboys arriving in Oxnard, California 9 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: for the start of training camp, full speed ahead the 10 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: final three months of this Cowboys offseason. It's been an 11 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: eventful first three months and now we'll see what the 12 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: next three months holds. Kick Garrison taking your calls. We 13 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: went your feedback on what the Cowboys did in the 14 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: draft over the weekend. I am Bill Jones along with Mickey, 15 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Brian brought us. My first question to you, 16 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Brian brought us is after so much work that you 17 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: put in over the last months leading up to the draft, 18 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: what is it once the draft is over, once Christmas 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: is over? Well, no, it's the fascinating thing about working 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: on the draft is that you're you have all these 21 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: pieces and now you're putting them with these teams and 22 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: you kind of understand. And I thought, overall it was 23 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: a really fascinating draft. The first round, the way it went, 24 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: I thought there was going to be more chaos, and 25 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: there really wasn't any chaos. It was really the Steelers 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: moving up to Denver, and you know, we've thought maybe 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: there was gonna be a little bit moving around. Second 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: round I thought was a little bit better as far 29 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: as that and some some players taking its spots that 30 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: you're like, wow, that I would have done that, or 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, and that's when you work on it. Though. 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I always remind everybody these teams don't care what we think. 33 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: But it is kind of fun to say, boy, that 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: makes sense taking that guy there. That makes sense taking 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: that guy there. So afterwards though, it's it's actually kind 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: of a relief because you now you talk about the 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: offseason and things that we can do, and you can 38 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: kind of see his players come in and you'll see 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: how the staff is going to use them, what positions 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: they canna start off as backup guys or some guy's 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: gonna get little bit more work. You know, you physically 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: get to see him. I think that's really really good 43 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: thing for me. I thought he was going to say 44 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: he went out and got blasted. I haven't done that 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: a long time. I can't handle the hangover anymore. Yeah, 46 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: I do handle them. I do struggle with that. Yes, 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: you know the roster now, this is pretty much. This 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: is pretty much the twenty nineteen Dallas Cowboys, give or 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: take maybe a couple moves here, and there's minor moves 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: before training camp. This is what this team is. And 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: and now, like Brian said, we won't see much in 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: rookie mini camp most likely. You know, they're going to 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: have meetings on the field like they did last year, 54 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: more of an orientation. But once we get at OTAs 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: and in the mini camp, I mean, we'll start to 56 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: kind of see the shape of this. Well. We will 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: have a second draft. We will have a second draft 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: during the year. It just happens to come where you 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: get to claim players if you want to. Yeah, yeah, 60 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: that's second draft. Maybe. Yeah, there's a couple of guys. 61 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Somebody will try and sneak somebody through and you're like, 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: not so fast, We're gonna take that guy. That's that. 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: But Rob's right, gets after the final cuts. That's that's 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: kind of where the personnel guys look as a little 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: bit of a second draft there. So we'll see if 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: kaboys have done a nice job helping themselves with free 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: agency the minor deals that they were able to make, 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: and I think it allowed them to really kind of 69 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: have a nice plan for how they executed the draft 70 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: to three days that they were allowed to do that. Yeah, 71 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: they didn't have to do a lot of reaching because 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: they kind of covered themselves in free agency for the 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: most part with some very low price veteran contracts. Uh. 74 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: And so they could just sit there and say, you know, 75 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't need this or I don't need that, and 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: force the issue and so, uh yeah, I think you know, 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Rob's right, we know what the roster is. Now let's go. 78 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see is when we go back 79 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: and as you study this some of the players that 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: and it's always the exercise that you do of players 81 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: they took and then players they potentially could have taken. 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's always it's all those things you could 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: go far back and and it's oh you should have taken, 84 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: you should have taken. But there were some players they 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: legitimately thought about at their pick that they that when 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: it came to their time, they had to make a 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: decision on this guy or this guy. And I think 88 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: that's where sometimes you can look and say, Okay, well 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: the guy that they take, how does he pan out 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to you know, I'm sure some people have 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: gone back and looked at Layton Vanderesh around the league 92 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: and gone what we were thinking about Layton Vanderesh. Yeah, 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: if you're gonna redraft, If you're gonna redraft, yeah, Layton 94 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Vanderish would probably be a top eight pick, you know, 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: if you're going to redraft that draft. So uh, you know, 96 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: everybody can do it, and it'll be fascinating due time 97 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: if how that all works out. You know, Bail, what's 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: that big long list I see you have in front 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: of it. That's the draft. I just keep tracking throughout 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: throughout the draft. I write them all down, and you 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: got circles on certain guys. I go back, okay, if 102 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: you must, I got the entire draft right here, look 103 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: at that all right in order? Yeah, and well I 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: lost my sheet on the first three where in the 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: other sheet that we get the pr people give us 106 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: whatever I left it up here after the first day, okay, 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: after this second day. Yeah, that sheet right there, that's 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: what I normally, I left it up here. We were 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: taping a show or something, and I left it up here. 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: You mean, so neatly risen all Saturday stuff, fourth, fifth, sixth, 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: and seventh rounds right here. And then I got another 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: notebook over here where I keep throughout the entire season, 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: where I've got every team in the league here, and 114 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: so these circles is I stayed up late on Saturday 115 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: night or Sunday, I don't remember what night it was, 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: and I took the draft picks and put them over 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: here on the teams. It's fun. It's what I do. 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm a geek. I'm sorry, kind of like, go print 119 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: this out. No, I'm going old school. I'm going to 120 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: old school in my old book. Got that here, fortunately, 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: I mean I could just looking at him, you know what. No, 122 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: but where it helps me. And the reason I do 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: this is because when I do the preseason game, you 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: know where there are when I write it down, I 125 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: committed more to remember no question, no questions that I had, 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: I had a how I learned it. I had written 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: all the in the slots. I'd written it all in pencil, 128 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: but then I keep the sheet because I keep both. 129 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: But you're right, they kind of remember. It allows you 130 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: to remember where these guys went and potentially what we 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: learn about the players, and then it just helps so 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: much as you go on through the season and so forth, 133 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: when you're playing against you know, the New England Patriots 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and no Kenel Harry, Yeah, the state you know. Yeah, 135 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: here comes to the millennial. I just let the draft 136 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: cast on NFL dot Com just update for me and 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: I go back. I just log on. But yeah, you 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: guys used me merely in years because that's my hand, right. 139 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: I merely told you that there is a draft cast 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: online if you can't find it, you know. And actually, 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: back when I was doing ranger games, I used to 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: be more computer and this is before everyone else was 143 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: on computers. In the broadcast booth, I had a computer 144 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: and everything. But I've just found over time that if 145 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I look at the draft as my spring semester of school, 146 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm in a class and I'm learning all these players. 147 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: And it's not only for the preseason games that I do, 148 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: but for the next however long they're in the league. 149 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: That's how I learn who the players are so anyway, 150 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: all right, so there was just curious. Yeah, that's all 151 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: right there. Um, so you were saying, you know, uh, 152 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: it is interesting what you're talking about the guys that 153 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: they were choosing from. All right, we we all talk 154 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: about and Mickey brought it up about the team taking 155 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: care of what they needed to in free agency where 156 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: they could actually go out and play a game by 157 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: the time the draft hit, they don't have to take 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: a player at a certain position. But when you look 159 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: at the inventory at defensive tackle going forward, how much 160 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: of a priority do you think defensive tackle was for 161 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: this team where they felt like they really needed to 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: get someone who might be a three technique for them. 163 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: We will see if the second round pick is. But 164 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: when you look at it, they didn't have anybody basically 165 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: under contract a year from now at defensive tackle that 166 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: seemed to be a need position a year from now, 167 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: if not now, I think it was somewhat of a 168 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: priority for sure, based on what you just said. And 169 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: to Brian's point, that was an example right there at 170 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: fifty eight where you're looking at it and they loved 171 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, but they also like Juan Thornhill to safety 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: out of Virginia, and they kind of decided what's a 173 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: more impactful position, and they went with the defensive tackle 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: who's got some really impressive trades, a guy like I 175 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: mean you studied him a lot, Brian really quick for 176 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: his frame, a guy that can wreck plays from the 177 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: middle of the yeah. Yeah, and they went with that 178 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: over safety, which by the way, is another position though 179 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: that you get to twenty twenty and it's like, what's 180 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: it gonna look like because you got some contracts up 181 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: there too. Yeah. That's That's where I'm looking at right now, 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: is because if you mean Tristan Hill was selected and 183 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: then you still had guys like Adderly, Rap and Thornhill 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: all on the board. Yeah, and those were kind of 185 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: the names that we were So it really did work 186 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: out how we thought all these guys would come off. 187 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean it was they were all those names were 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: kind of I was surprised at Rapp got there, But again, 189 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: it's the speed. The more you talk about teams around 190 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: the league or talk to teams around the league, they 191 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: knew the fourth seven speed was going to be a problem. 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: I e't asked Rod mary Nelly about that. He says, 193 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: tremendous player, but he's a four seven guy. You know, 194 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, But now Thornhill Thornhill was a discussion 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: in that room. You know that that was one of 196 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: those things that you know, they really really had to 197 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: hone in on. And if you think about it, probably 198 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: that Tristan Hill and Thornhill probably had to ride around 199 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: the same grade. It was the way they were stacked 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: that you know, Hill being over Thornhill that you know 201 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: swayed him that way. But uh, that that's gonna be 202 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the one thing that I'm going to 203 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: look at as we go three years from now. How 204 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: did Triston Hill play as opposed to how did Adderly 205 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: play rap play and Thornhill play? You know, is just 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: in my mind because I myself I had very similar grades. 207 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: I might personally myself I would have gone with Thornhill 208 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: over Hill, But I understand why they did what they 209 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: did just because of what you're talking about, the contracts 210 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. The you know, MALIEK. Collins has 211 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: been banged up. He plays games, but he's banged up. 212 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: He doesn't practice all the time. So uh, you know, 213 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Hill can come in and give him something at that 214 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: three technique, just like Rob probably had a great job 215 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: of describing what the player is, and I think they 216 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: see him the same way. I think that's one of 217 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: the fun things about doing the research you're leading up 218 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: to the draft, where you have your own players that 219 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you that you fit on this team, that you feel like, 220 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: and you can make an educated um assumption of Okay, 221 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I understand why they went this route. If I was 222 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: in there, I think I would have gotten this route. 223 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, we could play the game. If you study 224 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the guys, you could play those games. But to look 225 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: comparing the two careers, then they go, no, no, it 226 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: is It is one of those things where you know, 227 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: and again I reminded everybody on the Draft show, I 228 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: think they don't care what we think. You know, we 229 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: consider our job is to try and analyze all these 230 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: picks and why we thought that Dave so. But but 231 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know, those those grades for Thornhill and 232 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Adderale and wrapping those guys to me were not too 233 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: far off of Tristan Hill, so that you know, they 234 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: obviously had to make a decision there, especially with Thornhill. 235 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Especially with Thornill, and so the defense of backcoach my 236 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: understanding made an emotional plea for the defensive tackle. Yes 237 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: he did, and he basically told him, if I have 238 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle that's disruptive, my safeties will play better. 239 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: There you go, My safeties can't make that defensive tackle 240 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: play better. And I think that spoke volumes when you know, 241 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: assistant coaches can be very uh, you know, worried about 242 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: their own position, and he wasn't. He was. He was 243 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: worried about the entire defense. And I think that's what 244 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: swayed him to go big instead of going to a safety. 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: And as we talked before, was he going to be 246 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: a walk in starter? You know, maybe not Day one 247 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: might have been down the line, but you know, typically 248 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: the second round it would be even if he showed 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: the qualities, it'd be mid season before because the coaches 250 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: would have to be he would have to gain their 251 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: trust before they said, okay, you're playing instead of Jeff, 252 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: he took a took an injury and a decision for 253 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: Layton Van Rush to get on the field. It's true 254 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: coaching he trust. The first three games started off the 255 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah, absolutely, So I thought I just 256 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: thought him not being selfish, I think spoke volumes of 257 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: looking at the big picture instead of taking care of 258 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: my own little position. And if you go back to 259 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: what Steven Jones said in the pre draft press conference, 260 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: you know a lot of a lot of what's said. 261 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, they're not trying to tip their hand there. 262 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: But one thing he did say about safety was if 263 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: there's a big time playmaker there, we'll look at it. 264 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: We've looked at that before, but it's not a huge 265 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: priority for us. And that turned out to be the case. 266 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they were looking for depth at safety in 267 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: that draft, and then they ultimately got Donovan Wilson I 268 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: think in the sixth round. But I don't think they 269 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: felt like they could wait on a interior linement of 270 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: that talent, you know, past the second round, and say, oh, 271 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: we'll find one later. They didn't think that was possible. 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: And that's the other part of it is, Okay, Tristan 273 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Hill was their late second round. As we talked about 274 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: leading up to the draft that one of the strengths 275 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: of this draft was front seven defensive players and defensive 276 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: linemen and Brian where were they as far as a 277 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: potential three technique Once behind Tristan Hill on their board. 278 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: You think, I mean where one of the that was 279 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: that was anywhere near that? And then and you're absolutely right, Bill, 280 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: that's you know, maybe whyse you know who they end 281 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: up getting in the free agency. It was a fourth round, 282 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: which tells you, Okay, they were at the end of 283 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: the if they don't take this one here, then they're 284 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: not getting one. Yeah. As far as the three, I mean, 285 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: they had a choice, you know, they could have gone. 286 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: I believe Jones was another consideration. Uh yeah, Draymond Jones 287 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: from a house state. But they obviously didn't like Draymond 288 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: Jones enough they make the pill. But yeah, if you're 289 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: if you're going down the board, my guests again, my 290 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: guess I'm looking at my board. I had a fourth 291 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: round grade on whys and that probably would have been 292 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the next three technique that you probably would have had 293 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to deal with. They brought in Gerald Willis from the 294 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: University of Miami. He was a guy that went undrafted. 295 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: They brought him in to kind of look and see, 296 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, they wanted to get some background. There were 297 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: some issues and there's some issues there. So obviously they 298 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: got the information they wanted out of that and uh 299 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: you know so, uh, the kid Kiki from Texas A 300 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: and M would have probably been another consideration. But then 301 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: you're thinking about fifth round guy there. So they were, 302 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: they were, and they were kind of a spot where 303 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: they had to where they had to grab guys. I mean, 304 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: you look at all those those three techniques that went Quinnon, 305 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: Williams and you know, Oliver Simmons, Wilkins, Tillery, all those 306 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: guys went fast. And so now you're sitting there thinking, okay, 307 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: well we're down to the Draymond Joneses and down to 308 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the Tryson Hills. So they had they had to they 309 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: had to make that determination to get that done. You know, 310 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: Marinelli fell in love with absolutely, Yeah, he sure did. 311 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: If you look at the positions that were drafted, you 312 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: mentioned Jones defensive tackle got drafted after that. The only 313 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: other guy that was listed as a defensive tackle before 314 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: the one hundred and twenty fifth pick that got drafted, 315 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: according to this sheet here was Kaylin Saunders, uh, the 316 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Western Illinois by the Chiefs one. So okay, so the 317 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: next guy that I see that got drafted as a 318 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, you had to go down to one twenty 319 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: five Ronelle Wren by the Bengals. Yep. And so obviously 320 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the defensive one, another one and another one technie. So 321 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't see any other three techniques that were taken. 322 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: And if you didn't take him, now everybody says, well 323 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: you could have done both, Well could you? You know 324 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: if that if you like the guy, you better take 325 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: them the same thing like what the Giants did. You know, 326 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: everybody can criticize him for Daniel Jones, but if that's 327 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: your guys, take them. But Brian's right, I mean, Daniel 328 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: Wise is a guy they really liked in the free 329 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: draft process to get him as an undrafted guy's really 330 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: they're really happy with what it looks like this free 331 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: agent class is gonna be. Yeah. And the other thing 332 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: is you're right, like you gotta go back and look 333 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: at what these safeties do down the line. But I 334 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: do know they feel really good about Xavier Woods as 335 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: one of their young safeties. You're gonna you're gonna you're 336 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: gonna laugh at me for saying this, but I've got 337 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: if you if you talk, we have we have. They 338 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: released their free agency. I've seen It's not all reports, 339 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: and some of these schools announced it for the guys OK, 340 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: but Wise was a guy right he's listed. Hyatt from 341 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: Clemson had a fifth fifth round grade on him. This 342 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: uh Joan Johnson Joe A. Johnson from h from Yeah, 343 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: he's a guy, has sixth round grade on him. Westy 344 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the corner from Kentucky has sixth round grade on him. 345 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: And then Ricky Walker who was a defensive tackle like 346 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: a one technique or three who they got. He I 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: had a seventh round grade on him from Virginia Tech. 348 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: So if you look at what Chris Hall and that 349 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: crew did, was they took I named just named four 350 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: guys off their board off or excub me five guys 351 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: off my board that they got as free agents after 352 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: the draft. So you think about you know, if if 353 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hit on and they do 354 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: this every year, these guys hit on some type of 355 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. And I give Chris holland those guys 356 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: a lot of credit because they don't move those tags 357 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: off those boards. The first thing they attack or those 358 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: those kids that are on that board, and once they 359 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: get those kids, then they work their way down to 360 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: the Dallas priority free agents. But if you added five 361 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: draftable players that I thought were draftable players. But I'm 362 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving you high marks for doing that kind 363 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: of work. I bet you they were considering Mitch Hyating 364 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: with one of those late picks, because I recall it 365 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: was either six or seventh round. Yea Colombo being in 366 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: the room right, and I've thought if I started looking 367 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: at my list, going okay, well who could they be 368 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: looking at this? And I thought Mitch Hyatt might be, yeah, 369 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: this is where and good good analogy or good observation 370 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: on your part. We were working the draft on the 371 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: third day and we were watching the war room camp 372 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: and it was late like you were talking about, and 373 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: they had that seventh round pick, they had that last 374 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: seven and Colombo I'm sure was in there about Hyatt. 375 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was in there, not so much maybe 376 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: drafting him, but he was kind of alerting Steven Jones 377 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: and and Will McClay and Jerry Jones signability, signability. I goes, hey, 378 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: we're having to battle teams here. We might have to 379 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: make this pick. This might be our guy that we 380 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: have to use this pick on. He was maybe talking 381 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: about or maybe he was telling him, oh, no, hey, 382 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: we're good with We're good with Hyatt. We're good. We 383 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: don't have to do anything else. We're going to sign 384 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: this kid if it doesn't get drafted, and we'll be fine. 385 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: So Ian Colombo was in there, probably probably telling him 386 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: a little bit gimmle bit of scouting report about Hyatt 387 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: and where he was in as far as assignability or 388 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: needed be draft ability there. Now he was a four 389 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: year starter tackle. Did he consensus all? Why did he 390 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: fall through? Brian? He's young. There's a there's a kid 391 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: roam or two from San Diego State that didn't get drafted. 392 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: There was two, there was two. There was two or 393 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: I had had five tackles total, Uh, two one in 394 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: the fifth was was Romer and then Hyatt was sorry 395 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: two in the fifth and Hyatt being one of them 396 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: that didn't get picked. I got it right here, Yeah, 397 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: I think. Uh. In fact, I was listening to Bill 398 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: Polian uh last week and he was talking he was 399 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: on NFL Serious NFL Radio, and he was talking about 400 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: the measurables at different piso short armed guy or something. 401 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: It was about forty times with offensive lineman. And if 402 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: you'll look at tackles in the league, either left or 403 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: right tackles there, if you have a greater than a 404 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: five one forty time, you're worse than a five one 405 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: forty times you're not gonna make The odds are you're 406 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: not gonna make it in this lake. Mitch Hyatts was 407 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: five two nine with a one eighty six ten yards split. 408 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: That's a that's just an example of some measurable that 409 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: might make him in the eyes of scouts. Well, I know, 410 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: I know it hurt. Harmon, the wide receiver from North 411 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: Carolina State didn't went in the sixth round. I know 412 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: that for a fact because all everything else, and he's 413 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: a Washington get ready for him to catch about twelve 414 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: balls a game on your right there. He's one of 415 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: those kids, right, yeah, I mean he might run four, 416 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: five nine or four six, but get ready for him 417 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to catch about twelve balls on you. So I saw 418 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: I saw some of the guys. I guess I don't 419 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: know if they've signed or agreed to, but the Western guy, yeah, Kentucky. 420 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: And so here's here's something that started this year. They're 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: guaranteeing these guys money an offset. Yeah, and and basically 422 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: if if they don't make it, but they make it 423 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: on the practice squad, then the money's basically the same. 424 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: So they guaranteed now. His thing said, they guaranteed him 425 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars. And if you figure out what 426 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: you get paid on the practice squad, it comes out 427 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: to about one hundred thousand dollars if you're there for 428 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 1: seventeen weeks. So this was something new. The other thing was, 429 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: and Brian, you can speak to this. There was a 430 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: lot of calling going on around the league, like in 431 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: the seventh round. Oh yeah, to start courting. Oh, it's 432 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: nice to be free. Yeah, I mean before it used 433 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: to be Okay, the bell rings, it's over, now, grab 434 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: the phone now. They were telling they were calling guys 435 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: before that to say, hey, we're probably not going to 436 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: draft you, but we sure like to sign you. This 437 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: is where Dallas Day is a huge advantage for these guys. 438 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: See these guys, they see these guys, they recruit these guys, 439 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: and you got one of the best closers in the league. 440 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: If you could get Jerry Jones on a phone, he 441 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: will sell. He will sell somehow college. Yeah, he will 442 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: sell somebody. The opportunity, he will sell somebod the opportunity. 443 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: Don't want to buy, don't get off, don't go into 444 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: the room. I'll tell you what, We're gonna write some 445 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: reports that this kid is. They signed this kid, this 446 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: jailing guiton from North Texas. Right, Well, I didn't know 447 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: much about this kid. I know, I know there was 448 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: some serious legal problems there that they kind of had 449 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: to work through. But if you if you you look 450 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: from what I understand, just kind of talking to some 451 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: people again, that draft board they had of the guys 452 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: that they had signed, they had they had uh, let's see, 453 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: they had seven guys I believe that were draftable grades 454 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: that they signed after the draft. Seven And I think 455 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: about that, you know, I mean, that's just that's like 456 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: a whole other draft. Second draft. Yeah, that's we talked 457 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: about the second draft board. But but yeah, but it's like, 458 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, you add if you're adding players off your 459 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: draft board and you're not just signing, You're not just 460 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: giving five thousand dollars to Brian broad Us out of 461 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: LSU who's not going to make the team. But if 462 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: you go out and you get guy like Guidon and 463 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: Johnson and notice high in Westery, I mean, these guys 464 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: at least your practice squad to look good. You know 465 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying unless somebody comes along and says, whoa 466 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: wait a minute, we kind of like hiet too, and oh, 467 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: by the way, we like, yeah, if he's an undrafted guy, 468 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be on the practice squad. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, 469 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to make it. It's like it's 470 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: like that's why they're giving that guaranteed. Donovan Alumba is 471 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a great example. I think Donovan Alumba is a name 472 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: that I'm throwing out there now that Chris Rshard and 473 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: those guys will talk about when we get to OTAs 474 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: And I gotta be careful this year not to cheer 475 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: lead for certain guys because I get him a camp 476 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: and then they fail. But Donovan Alumba is a guy 477 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: that I know this for a fact. You know they 478 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: got him last year. He was on the practice squad 479 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: the whole entire year. Again, like some of these guys 480 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: are probably gonna be and now he's gonna be ready 481 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to play some meaningful snaps for you. Him and the 482 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: ward kid that they sent to Kansas City for the trade. 483 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, he ended up starting for a Kansas 484 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: late year at But those are the two guys I mean, 485 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: they were they We're planning on those guys being you know, 486 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: there was a plan keep on the practice squad work 487 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: with him. But Donovan Olumba was getting snaps with the 488 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: first defense like Chris ruh Schard was throwing him in. 489 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: Maybe they have eight snaps, he gets two, but at 490 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: least like Richard Sherman. Yeah, because he looked like Richard Sherman. Well, 491 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: what maybe west does is he really six s? This 492 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: is the test. This is gonna be the big test, 493 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: the Kentucky corner. Yeah, yeah, four three yeah, And it's 494 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: actually I think they got him in four three three. 495 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys have him in six four at 496 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: six four six four and a half yeah, six a 497 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: half and a half. And the thing about Westery though, 498 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: is though that this will be the test because he 499 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: was not a he was not a starter at Kentucky. 500 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: He Kentucky had some tall long corners at tall long safeties. 501 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: And they know they've done a nice job up there. 502 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: By the way, Stoop's done a good job coaching coach 503 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: the defensive. Now he's not anymore, he's coaching coach, but 504 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: he but Dave, but this Westreet, it's not often that 505 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: the six four and a half corner. Let's see if okay, 506 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: is he a leggy guy. Is he gonna be able 507 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: to turn? He gonna be No, No, he's got this 508 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: guy's got some ability and Scott but yeah, but he 509 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: will be off. Prescott broke his streak of two hundred 510 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: and eighty nine straight passes without an interception. Here you go, 511 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a this is a six four 512 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: and a half guy. And now we'll see. Okay, oh, 513 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: there's a reason to have these corners that have length 514 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: and have reach. The problem with Westreet and that's swear. Guys, 515 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna notice it right off the bat. He's a grabber. 516 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean he is an immediate grabber, you know, and 517 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: then and then once he grabs you, and then he 518 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: kind of gets himself in position. He needs to trust 519 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: his trust his ability a little bit more. But the 520 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: first thing you're gonna say it camp, you're gonna see 521 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: me and go you're right because or you're watching with drills, 522 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: you're right because he's he's like initially a grab and 523 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: hold and then turn kind of a guy. So what 524 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: about break? 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In fact, Josh Rosen and the 598 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are coming here on September twenty second. Did 599 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: you know that, Mickey? I think I did. Will Dwayne 600 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Haskins be starting for the Washington Redskins? Shouldn't we go 601 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: to Washington? The second week of the season should be 602 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: Eli Manning will be starting for the Giants with Daniel 603 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: Jones backing up the first week in the season. That 604 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: was a popular pick. There you go. I mean, who 605 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: does Haskins have to beat outbase Keenum? Is case Keenum? 606 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: That's it? Rights hurt yep. And of course Alex Smith 607 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: is gone, probably for the year, I guess right, maybe 608 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: his career yep. So anyway, young division of quarterbacks now, 609 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: huh okay, in the next half of them, you're gonna 610 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: ask a question about someone named Brain. Can you remember 611 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: that for a couple of minutes. I can't because we 612 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: have to go to Italy. Marco in Italy is first 613 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: up on talking Colbost there, Hey, guys, what's up? Thank 614 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: you for taking I call no problem listen first and foremost, 615 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: hats off to Brian and Micky forgetting it right as 616 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: regards to the draft. On Thursday, commenting on Tristan Hill, 617 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: Brian wrote, and I quote, I would not be shocked 618 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: at all if he was a selection for this club 619 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: at two fifty eight, and on Friday, Micky wrote, and 620 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: I quote, Saturday will be about the time in the 621 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys go to the safety route. And likely running back 622 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: and possibly corner back to you guys are amazing, so 623 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: Mike comments and dollars draft. I like the logic a lot. 624 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: It made a ton of sense to invest on both 625 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive line, especially since I believe that, with 626 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: the exception of quarterback, linemen are the most difficult spots 627 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: to fit in effectively during the season. So it's a 628 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: huge advantage to have these players in these roles from 629 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: the beginning. So thumbs up from me in the draft. 630 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: Now following free agency, in the draft, three questions, one 631 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: for each unit. I will start with special team. I'm 632 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: a bit surprised that Dallas did not add a kicker 633 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: via free agency or tick one in the last rounds 634 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. Myer went twenty nine on thirty six. 635 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: They missed twenty percent of the field goals is attempted. 636 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: These are not good numbers. The last season, six out 637 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: of sixteen Dallas regular season games were decided by three 638 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: points or less, so this aspect of the game can 639 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: termine if they make or miss the playoffs or the 640 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: home field advantage. So what's your view on the gig 641 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: in situation? Second question on defense after Amary Cooper joined 642 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: last season, the Cowboys on losss or losses came versus 643 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: the Titans, the calls and the Rams. The Titans run 644 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: thirty six times one hundred and twenty five yards, the 645 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: calls run thirty nine times four hundred and seventy eight yards, 646 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: and rams run forty eight times fo two hundred and 647 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: seventy three yards. So what's your view on Dallas run, defense, postcraft, 648 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: and free agency because I think this was the Achiles 649 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: heal last year. And finally and offense, do you think 650 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the next season we will see even more emphasis on 651 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: bold control? I'm asking because they selected to running backs 652 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: in the draft. Plus with the editions of Randolph Cobb 653 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: and the returner Jason Whitton, they have two players with 654 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,959 Speaker 1: good hands and good route skills that can do damage 655 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: in short jadges situation. Together with the running threat so 656 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Zeke and deck in the returns Frederick, this should allow 657 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: Dallas to keep the boat for a huge portion of 658 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the game. Do you know what are killing more? And 659 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: doctor Prescott's preferences to that respect, I think it would 660 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: be the right way to go and it would beak 661 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: the defense. Alio. With that, we'll hang up and listen 662 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: to your answers. As always, thank you for your sending coverage. 663 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: I look forward to talk to you again the next future. 664 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Love y'all, goodbye. All right, Marco conducting Talking Cowboys in Italy. Yeah, 665 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Talking cowboys in the Italy. We 666 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: need seventeen hours and twenty five minutes to answer all 667 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: the questions. All good questions, by the way, good question. Kicker, 668 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: have you seen a kicker on the report? No, they 669 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: have to know they had they They're probably not going 670 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: to add a kicker. Maybe they will later, but initially 671 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: didn't like that we're going to do that. I know 672 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 1: they see a redfern, a punter earth who's already. Yeah, 673 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: they brought they brought several guys in through Dallas Day. 674 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: I need to get to Dallas Day. I know they 675 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: brought in four kickers for Dallas Day. So maybe we'll 676 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: see somebody when we all get on the plane to 677 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: go to Oxnard. There might be a kicker add it 678 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: at that point in time. Maybe they bring in a 679 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: guy for the rookie mini camp and not a tryout 680 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: basis exactly. Just didn't kind of see, but I didn't 681 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: get to sound like they were going to do that though, 682 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: because because it's not a really no, are you sold 683 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: on that guy? I think the caller Marco Mark he 684 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: makes I think by the end of the season numbers number. 685 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean, to his point, the fifty plus yarders. You 686 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: felt better about with maher a lot of the time 687 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: late in the season than those money kicks from those 688 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: two games. It was like things were fading so wrong. 689 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I do think overall they felt pretty good about what 690 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: he did, though he made some big kicks for him 691 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: too last year. So run defense, I wouldn't call that 692 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: the Achilles heel. I think for much of the year 693 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: that was your strength. If you want to look at 694 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: the Rams game, yeah it wasn't good. Colts bad too, 695 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: but those are really the two games you look at, 696 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: and so what do you think happened? I mean, it 697 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: was the same guys playing that fourteen other games. Let 698 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: me tell you what. What the two best offensive lines 699 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: I thought they played last year, they were just better 700 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: than I just felt like that that you're dealing with 701 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: the Rams team. And I don't think it had anything 702 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: to do with rest or what anything, because the Rams 703 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: weren't exactly winning games at the end they were kind 704 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: of kind of spewing. They were trying to get home 705 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: field and couldn't get it, you know, at the end. 706 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: But that's still that offensive line what they've done at 707 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: the Rams. And then of course the Colts the Cults 708 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: are gonna be a problem for a lot of teams 709 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: because their offensive line is, I think is outstanding. Its Yeah, yeah, 710 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: they got They've got you know, another rookie Smith Smith 711 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: from Auburn. Yeah, I mean they've got some guys that 712 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: was that was just a more a more physical bunch 713 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: than the Cowboys. I now, the way your hope is 714 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: that that the human log. You know, he's got his 715 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: shoulder fixed. He looked good in the Caffe Cherry yesterday 716 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: walking by wavings saying hello physically, look who he's out 717 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: there working out. This Christian Covington. If you watch the 718 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: Houston Texans play last year, that's a good front as 719 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: a really good front. And I felt like that Christian 720 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: Covington was a little bit of an underrated guy for them. 721 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess you can't pay everybody, 722 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: and they didn't pay him, you know, they didn't even 723 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: try and keep him. But the tape I watched, you know, 724 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: when they were running twist stunts and stuff, Nicols stuff. 725 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: He's in there. He's like a post. He's post getting position. 726 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: He's getting Wat home or Miracus home, or you know, 727 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: he's getting guys home, you know, to to kind of 728 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: get rush, you know, Clowney, those guys are getting home 729 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: because he's being physical, you know, playing inside. So Rod Merry, 730 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: I think they've upgraded. If you look at Hill and 731 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: Covington and Hyder, you know they've upgraded from the reads. 732 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: We still have Ross here, right, I mean, Ross was 733 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: a guy that was I thought was okay, but they 734 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: needed they needed upgrades and and and I think that's 735 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: where they helped themselves with that defensive tackle spot. But 736 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: I just personally, I think that the Colts and the 737 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: Rams just kick their ass. They did. That's kind of 738 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: how I feel about that. Those are the two best 739 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: they played. So those I just thought those two teams 740 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: hard matchup for the Cowboys. Yeah, and they were physical, 741 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: but they used the Cowboys aggressiveness against her, like you 742 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: want to come upfield, go ahead, We're coming in behind you. Yeah, 743 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and maybe it helps run defense. I mean, 744 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: Lawrence had a nice season right, right, Oh, now his 745 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: shoulders should be better. You mentioned Antoine Woods, right, shoulders 746 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: should be better Blee Collins knock on Wood staying healthy 747 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: because he played her last year again. Yeah, so yeah, 748 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: and then the wild card and all that is Tyrone Crawford. 749 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: Where do you want to play him? Right? You know, 750 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: it would be nice if you can play him inside, 751 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: if the defensive end spot is solidified and can stop 752 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: the run every once in a while. I like the too, 753 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean I I could say I like the kids 754 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: they added to this on the defensive inside of it. 755 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: Just looking at how about the numbers they've thrown at 756 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: this thing? Now, it's a lot. I mean, Derek and 757 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: I were talking about that. It's like who makes the 758 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: gate more? Ted, I don't know if you can keep 759 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: them all well really yeah. The hope is if you 760 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 1: have to maybe get a couple of the practice squad, 761 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 1: but or maybe use them for maybe you can use 762 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: them for a trade trade somebody, you know, maybe maybe 763 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: at lest you get into this thing and somebody's got 764 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: the surplusit safety we were talking about. And now instead 765 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: of drafting a guy, maybe you get a one or 766 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: two year guy. It's already been in the league, it's 767 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: somebody's kind of given up on and you know, you 768 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: have a you have a guy you want to move on. Maybe, 769 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: you know, hey, let's be honest, you know, maybe Malik Collins. 770 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: Maybe you move on from somebody that's contract is up, 771 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, to try and try and get another position 772 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: and maybe get a or get draft picks or you 773 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: or you get story pick out of that. Yeah, but 774 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: that's a way. Yeah. I think he over he overthought 775 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: the running back question that because they drafted two running backs, 776 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna be a ball control they need. I think 777 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: they needed at least one candidate to be the every 778 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: down backup to challenge. This is on Darius Jackson and 779 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: Chun Right, Yeah, where Mark where Marco's right though is 780 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: and he said the right name Kellen Moore. Yeah, you 781 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: know how they use Pollard is on Kellen Moore. Right. 782 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't need to go to Oxnard with all of 783 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: us on that plane and then by day five, practice 784 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: five or practice six, I am not seeing Pollard involved. Now. 785 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: If Pollard is not smart enough, and obviously they know 786 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: if he's smart enough, I mean, they do a lot 787 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: of work on these guys. They bring him in put 788 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: him on the board. Gary Brown obviously loved him. Kellen 789 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: Moore I was told, really loved the guy. I think 790 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: the Webber pick, by the way, guys, I think the 791 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: value of Webber was just too great for them to pass. 792 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: If you think about talking to some folks about Webber 793 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: third fourth round type grades on that exactly saw one 794 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: list that had him ranked the sixth running back. Yeah, no, 795 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, ye good batter otherwise, but somebody thought something. Well, 796 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: I tell you what though, the Cowboys thought something of 797 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: him because if you if you honestly his grades, his 798 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: grade and Pollard's grade were very similar, very from what 799 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: I was told, and similar and round too. I think 800 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: I think that that with with Webber maybe a little 801 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: bit of tick higher, but the but again, they felt 802 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: like they needed to do something to get part done. 803 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: Now we'll we'll also look at that when that selection 804 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: went on. There were some players on the board too 805 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: as well when that So that's what it was in 806 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: my mind. In the fourth and the fourth, the long, 807 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: the long Isaiah Johnson, that's the one I'm gonna kind 808 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: of keep my eye on because again, you've added Westery, 809 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,720 Speaker 1: you kind of have a little bit need at corner 810 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: in due time. Mickey keeps telling me, I'm next year, 811 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm losing two corners probably, and the following year after that, 812 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm losing another two corners probably. So we need to 813 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: kind of think about you think they head in mind 814 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: when they traded down and then they traded down again, 815 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: or or did they have someone YouTube. I think they 816 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: really I think they really want I think they liked 817 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: this Mike Jackson so much that they felt like that 818 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: located too early. It's too early to take Mike Jackson. Now, 819 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,879 Speaker 1: let's see if we could keep back up and take them. 820 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: So they did. They parlayed Mike Jackson and it really 821 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: did two picks, but they loved the kids. And then 822 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: think of all of the you talked about these seven 823 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: undrafted guys that they had grades. Yes, yeah, So at 824 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: that point they're sitting there going we get all these 825 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: guys that we would be willing to spend sixth or 826 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: seventh round picks on, and we got one seventh round pick. 827 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: We need to pick up late sixth early seventh round picks. 828 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: And so they were able to do that by trading 829 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: down twice, and it helped them. It helped them grab 830 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: a safety, grabbed the safety. It helped them grab you know, 831 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: if you think about they didn't have a sixth round 832 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: pick going to this draft. Weeber was the sixth round pick, right, 833 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: so they picked up a third round guy on the go. Yeah, 834 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: Wilson was a sixth round Okay, I'm sorry, yeah, well okay, yeah, 835 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: so the seventh jokes when was jelfs two forty one 836 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: the two seven? There were two seven round safety and 837 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: a running back with those two that they see, so 838 00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, and they're thinking about what think about who 839 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: they picked up? Then they picked up the safety they 840 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: probably you know it maybe had a fifth round grade 841 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: on him, and they had position meat position. And then 842 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: they turned around and grab a running back that they 843 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: got a third round grade, three fourth grade on And 844 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: that was just like you said, that was a blinking 845 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: light type thing, best available. Well, Connor McGovern was that 846 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: way too. Yeah, you said it today in the round table. Yeah, 847 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett even said it himself. Because they're holding 848 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: on a couple of guys. They're holding on Where we 849 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: were at that DRAF We're in the second third round 850 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: right there. Okay, there were two guys I know they 851 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: were holding on. They were holding on Justin Lane. Actually 852 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: before that, Will Harris, the safety from Boston College, they 853 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: brought in as a thirty visit guy. To him, he 854 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: was a thirty busy guy. Okay. He goes to Detroit 855 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: at three eighty one. Okay, okay, well we still got 856 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: we still got lane. We still got Justin Justin Lane 857 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: up there from Michigan State. And then he turns around 858 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh does his tea all the time. You know, three 859 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: eighty three, they take Justin Lane. So now you're thinking, like, okay, 860 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: we just lost our two guys. It's almost like Pittsburgh 861 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: when they took Ryan Shazier and then you end up 862 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: taking Zack Martin. You know, you're like, okay, who is 863 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: the next player on that board? You know, and I 864 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: guarantee that I from hocket. Some folks they had a 865 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: second round grade on McGovern. He was the last second 866 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: round grade. That's yeah, absolutely yeah. So you're sitting there 867 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: in the third round and you're like going, okay, wait 868 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: a minute, I'm we're all reading into and it's the potential, 869 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: and it's the potential to move guys around. But to 870 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: your point's damn near the fourth round. Yeah, when you're 871 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 1: picking and this guy's sitting here, and it's like, all right, 872 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: why not continue to fortify our offensive line. It's the 873 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,280 Speaker 1: strength of our team. We had a bunch of injuries 874 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: and Travis's illness last year, Like, yeah, why not. Connor 875 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: McGovern was fifty fourth on your list, right, and he 876 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: was thirty one on Gil Brandt's list. Yeah, there you go. 877 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: See that's what I'm saying. I mean, there's a lot 878 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: of people that had Gil's probably more right than me, 879 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: but but I'm just saying that to me that that 880 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. That's one of those times 881 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: you go solid joy, you say, oh best available player. Yeah, 882 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: best available player. Absolutely, that is the perfect example of 883 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 1: best available, perfect example. But it was an immediate competition 884 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: coming in here. But the question was about Pollard. We 885 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 1: started with four, six, seventh, had third, but Pollard. But 886 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: Pollard is a dimension that they didn't have. If Kelly, 887 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: if exactly they give he gives him a pass catcher 888 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: on the outside, he's gonna have to develop. He's gonna 889 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: have to develop some blocking. There's gonna have to be 890 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: some Gary Brown will work with that. Yeah, Gary Brown 891 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: will work with that. But the key is this is now. 892 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: Marco was right, this is on Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore, 893 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: don't let this kid be a week two, a week three, 894 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: a week six, a week eight, inactive, don't need that 895 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: any better. Be the first guy up on kickoff returns 896 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: when they start. Oh he will. This cat's I know this, 897 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: Havan Austin, this guy, this cat I've seen when continue 898 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: you here on talking Cowboys. 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You glyptus for us? Yeah, you want 961 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: me to spell it? You see it? All right? All right? 962 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: US market Kent and I said it right. It was 963 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: pad to write it right here there it is online. 964 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: All right. There you go get Jack Black. Get it. 965 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna ask something I was gonna ask, Mack. You 966 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: get the cut on this stuff now, now I have 967 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: butt stuff from so I get that they were I 968 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: didn't know. If I didn't know that, you got you 969 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: on the payroll and the board of directly should he 970 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: is Mickey supported director members. A matter of fact, I 971 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: ordered some stuff and it hadn't come yet. I didn't 972 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,879 Speaker 1: check on that. All right, who's this Brandon guy you're 973 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: asking about? Offensive tackle? Brandon Knight. Brandon Knight. I do 974 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: not know a thing about Brandon got he got some 975 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Yeah, no, I need to watch him. I 976 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: have a combo guard for the Phoenix Suns. That's all 977 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: I know. Brevin Knight, Brandon and Brevin actually, but yeah, 978 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know about this. Brandon go to 979 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: college in Brandon. Which Brandon, which about your brand Kentucky? 980 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I liked him at Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, 981 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: all right, sorry to get us in the ditch, Cowboys. 982 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight playing hop Scotch over now. Marco in Italy 983 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 1: also mentioned the name of Marco show, Jason Witten and 984 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb when he was talking about the ball control offense. Yeah, 985 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't buy any of that. Mickey said it speed speed, speed, 986 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:05,360 Speaker 1: because Cobbs got it. We know Pollard has it. And 987 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: Witten's more crafty at this stage at thirty seven, I'm 988 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: his age. I know. Um, are you crafty in certain ways? Sure? Yeah? 989 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: Was he ever fast. Yeah, I think he for his position. 990 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah here six one out of college. He was a 991 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: mismatch guy. Yeah, back ten years ago. Um Tavon although, 992 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: like you mentioned Bill before the break, Tavon and Pollard 993 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: very similar skill sets, so that that might be an 994 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: interesting competition to watch and training camp. Even Webber's got 995 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: some speed for his time speed, so they've added that. 996 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Kellamore's got some speed to work with now 997 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: going forward gallop too, well, you look well. And if Tavon, 998 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: I think his his deal is one point seven with 999 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: five hundred guaranteed. So yeah, I mean Briting was on 1000 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: the wall there to begin with, you know, coming into 1001 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: this season, and yeah, I don't think there. I don't 1002 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: think they're married to him at all. M Yeah, So 1003 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but how about the competition. Yeah, a wide 1004 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: receiver if you know, when you evaluated, when you when 1005 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 1: you can consider Pollard as a running back slash receiver. 1006 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, I do think they would add to that 1007 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: mix too, And when you look at what they did, 1008 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: I think they would have liked to maybe draft a 1009 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: receiver to develop. But again, you mentioned some guys that 1010 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,360 Speaker 1: reportedly they may be getting here that you know like 1011 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: you mentioned a guiding stuff, so guiding can run. He's 1012 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: for three nine. If you watch that North Texas tape, 1013 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: it's for getting Devin Smith. Yeah, sign yeah, if you 1014 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: took one, they had to be better than Devin Smith 1015 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: and Cedric Wilson's like your draft choice. Get about those guys. Yeah, 1016 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: I mean he didn't play, so we need to go 1017 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: to Camp sung Rimmer. All these games you've added, you've 1018 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: added basically two guys to the to the mix there, 1019 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: which brings me to my crazy pick at number fifty eight. 1020 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: You're crazy pick number fifty eight. I wanted Jalen Hurd. 1021 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: I love that. Where did he go sixty seven to 1022 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco? Yeah? Yeah. We spent like a whole segment 1023 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 1: on him last year. And if you talk about you're 1024 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: going to compare Tristan Hill with one Thorn Hill, my deal, 1025 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be comparing it with Jalen Hurd. And here's 1026 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: one of the reasons, as it fits with the Cowboys. 1027 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: Jalan Hurd could play slot receiver and he can play 1028 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 1: running back, and you can put him on the field 1029 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,960 Speaker 1: that f position in the Cowboys offense, and teams don't 1030 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: know whether you're running the ball or throwing the ball, 1031 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: because he's a legitimate running back and he's a legitimate 1032 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: slot receiver and we're watching, we're watching. Ken always puts 1033 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: up these highlights. He's running the ball at Tennessee. Here 1034 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: we go. If you're watching along with us, Kat's carrying 1035 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: the football for the Valls. You know Stef the Missouri 1036 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: Tiger there, I think, yeah, and so anyway, that's my 1037 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: guy that I applachan state, Mickey, I'm sorry. San Francisco 1038 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: took Deebo Samuel in the early second back and got him. Yeah, Mickey, 1039 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: they did, yeah pick in the second round. I'll tell 1040 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 1: you what though, they did a nice job. Those two 1041 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: kids can play. Both. Those kids can play. Pollard not 1042 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: only can return kicks, he can cover kicks. Yeah, yeah, 1043 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: I was reading he was a gunner on the on 1044 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: punt coverage, so that gives him maybe. What were other 1045 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 1: guys that Keith O'Quinn has fired up about that are 1046 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: special teams demon types that they've acquired here. Well, what 1047 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: about your Aggie. I've always seen him, yeah, I've always 1048 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: seen him. I've always seen him play defense. I've never 1049 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: seen him playing special team and play I didn't pay 1050 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of attention to it. But I think 1051 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna have to help, he's gonna make the 1052 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,360 Speaker 1: team there. Um, I'm just looking at the number of 1053 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: kickoff returns last year, so they only had Joe Jackson 1054 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: would fit in that also. Yeah, and then and you 1055 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: know they didn't usually they draft a linebacker. Well, that's 1056 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: that's gonna she didn't do that. And they you know, 1057 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 1: they looked at some guys like Cole Holcombe they brought. 1058 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: He got drafted by the Redskins. I think at the 1059 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: end of the fifth round. He was the last right 1060 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: about that Bill, So who's Yeah? And then Green and Greenlock. Yeah, 1061 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: I had him. I had him mocked like a much 1062 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: later and he ended up going like thinking the fifth 1063 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: round if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, So yeah, Well, and 1064 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 1: teams started taking those special teams guys. Yea to be 1065 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: a backup linebacker and special teams guy. So who's your 1066 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: sam linebacker? I think Sean Lee. See that's that's that's 1067 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 1: where we differ here. That's where we differ here. It's 1068 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: Sean Lee boy probably a point who's replacing Damian Wilson 1069 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 1: as the starter at Sami, Shawn Lee. That's what I'm 1070 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: all for that myself. Who else, Joe Thomas? Okay, my 1071 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: only issue with that, Nick, why did you bring Shawn 1072 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,319 Speaker 1: Lee back? Why did you move him to the week 1073 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 1: side years ago? But this is different? Why is it different? 1074 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: Because Okay, I asked the questions, asked your question. I 1075 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: asked the question. I asked someone, can Sean Lee play 1076 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 1: strong side linebacker? That person answer was yes, he can 1077 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 1: play any place we want him to play. I think 1078 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: you're I don't disagree with that safety based on past history. 1079 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: Good point. They moved him to will to cover him up. 1080 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter he was in the middle. You can 1081 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: cover up this. You can play the strong side linebacker differently. 1082 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't have to have him on the line of scrimmage. 1083 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: Take him on the tight end. I hope you're right, Mickey, 1084 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: I hope you're Shaun Lee when they go to Ota 1085 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: is going to be the first one got your sources. 1086 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm not going to disagree with that, but if you know, 1087 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: I would. I think Rob has got a point because 1088 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: they're trying to help him keep from getting beat up, 1089 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: taken on blocks. But if they play, if they play 1090 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: with Sam linebacker and he can do it. Okay, snaps 1091 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: a games, Wilson, I'm ahead of you. Good. He played 1092 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight percent of the snaps on defense. So that's 1093 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: a nice little role for Sean. I see where you're going. 1094 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm just playing devil's advocating. Why wouldn't you want him 1095 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: on the field? No, No, I want Sean Lee on 1096 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 1: the field. I want but I want to keep Sean 1097 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: Lee healthy. The beauty of it is he can still 1098 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: he can also do other back up the other spots 1099 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,959 Speaker 1: because he's smart enough to be able to handle everything. 1100 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: If if Mickey, if you're right, I'll be the first 1101 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: one to admit it, because sneaky sounds, I have to 1102 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: agree with it. That's that's that's a well placed. So 1103 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 1: of the other of linebackers on the roster, who is 1104 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: who would be the candidate to be that starting sam linebacker? 1105 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: With there there? I would have thought maybe it was 1106 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. I think they I think they want to 1107 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: see Covington. I haven't seen content enough to know what 1108 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: he's keeping on this kid. Kyle Quero though too, That's 1109 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: another one of those guys that that was was on 1110 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 1: the practice squad all year. And the coach is kind 1111 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: of filling up. All he did was like intercept passes 1112 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: and pick up fumbles and stuff in practice safety. In 1113 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: college safety at Northwestern, they moved him to linebacker. He's 1114 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,800 Speaker 1: like the Donovan Olumba that you all of a sudden, 1115 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking. It's like Micky's gonna go and 1116 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing uh, We're gonna do training camp 1117 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 1: live and Micky's goying this. Kyle Quara watch him and 1118 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: last year. I'm just telling Mickey's gonna talk about it more. 1119 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: How much how much progress does a player make from 1120 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: year one year two? Ultimately, I'm with Mickey on this 1121 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: because it's kind of like the offensive line argument, best five, 1122 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: best three. I want Shaun Lee on the field. I'm 1123 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,520 Speaker 1: just going back to what they did in the past 1124 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: to try to cover him up more that they're hearing 1125 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: that surprised me a little. But if they think he 1126 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: can do it, I don't. I don't. I don't think 1127 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: Shaun Lee can't do anything. I'm so saying he doesn't 1128 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: have to play on the line of scrimmage every play. 1129 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: They can cover up the strong and they're and they're 1130 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: in and they're in nickel a lot most of the 1131 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: time anyway, so's yeah, and he's gonna be your backup 1132 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: in the middle on the nickel. Yeah, they get Shaun 1133 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 1: Lee on the field. I think that's a victory agreed 1134 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: if and then it's a double victory if he can 1135 00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: stay on the field. Well, I would say this edition 1136 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys has been a victor. W We covered 1137 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: a lot of ground. He did cover a lot of ground, 1138 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: and there'll be more to cover next week. And in fact, 1139 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: next week we've got rookies coming to town. What a 1140 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: week from Thursday? Right right? And can I yes promote 1141 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: something for We got our final draft show on Thursday 1142 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: at eleven am Central. Ye, Will McClay. We're gonna go 1143 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: through the nuts and bolts of this one, and then 1144 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: I want to go back and talk about his two 1145 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen draft he had with the Zeke and 1146 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: those we like to talk about that too. Well, it's 1147 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: three years removed. That's a fair amount of that's a 1148 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: famount of grade that we can grade that raft grade 1149 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 1: this one back then. Well, they don't grade back then. 1150 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: We're right now, We're grade now. I can give you 1151 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: a grade right now get sixty minutes without mentioning Amari Cooper. Oh, 1152 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: just your first round pick man. Nice video, kids, right, 1153 00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: nice jot. Talk to you next week and Thursday. This 1154 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,080 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 1155 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. How about you come