1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Welcome into a Week sixteen Giants Hangout, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: brought to you by Crestrown. My name is Madeline Burke, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: joined as always by Matt Sidetach Russ Salzburg, and the 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Jonathan Cassius. Guys, it's Week sixteen, the 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: tail end of the regular season, three more games left. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: We're to talk about this commander's game JC. I know 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: last week we talked a little bit about, you know 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: what you wanted to see the growth of Abdul Carter. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: He came out ready to play. 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, he had his best game of his career, 11 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: his young career so far. I mean, I don't think 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: he goes to say that he had his best week 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: of practice this week, as Bullin said, And you know, look, 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: the guy's a phenomenal talent. You know, I think he 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: has some lapses this year and some judgment things, but 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: he's such a good talent man, and that was what 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 2: we've been expecting from him every single game. And if 18 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: he can keep sacking days like that, not only is 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: it good for him, it's good for the defense as 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: a whole. You know, you get guys fired up when 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: you start making plays other guys on the back end, 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: you look at a guy in front of them making 23 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: plays and it makes job a lot easier too. It 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: wasn't enough, of course, the Giants end up losing the game, 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 2: but it was good to see him take a step 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: forward and show us the talent that we always knew 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: we had. 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Right multiple two force fumbles, multiple tackles for lost the 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: sack in the game, and affecting the defense and Russ 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: When you look at the way the defense performed as 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: a whole, especially late in the game, giving the Giants 32 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: a couple opportunities in the fourth quarter, how do you 33 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: evaluate what we saw from the defense against Washington. 34 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: I was just you know, Madelin. Look, let's full disclosure. 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: You and I were sitting next to each other. You 36 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: had to leave more in the second half to get 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: ready for the show. But I was just disappointed. I 38 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: just want to piggyback on something that jac said. Is 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: good as he looked as terrific as he looked Abdul 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: in the game. What I was more happy about. I'm 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: really proud of him. He responded to the heat that 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: he was getting for the last couple of weeks. You know, 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: some guys can go sulk and almost let its defeat themselves. 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: Instead he reacted, and he really, I mean he was 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: the best player on defense out you know, on the 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: field in terms of the defense. Look, we're sitting there 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: in the first half watching them getting spanked. It was 48 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: an ugly first half. And yeah, they made plays. They 49 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 3: got better in the second half. But then at the 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: same point, just like the offense got better in the 51 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: second half. But again, what this team has lacked, both 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: defensively and offensively all season long is making plays when 53 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: they must make a play, when they need to make 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: a big play. I don't need you to catch me 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: a touchdown when it's when you're down by twenty points. 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 3: I need you to catch me a touchdown when you're 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 3: down by six, That's what I need. I don't need 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: you to make me a stop when you're down by 59 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: x amount of points. I mean, I need you to 60 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: make me a stop when you got a chance to 61 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: come back and win the game. And I just want 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: to see make plays when they need to be made, 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: not when it's convenient to make the play. 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: But credit to this team too, because early in the season, 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: you know you've seen the Giants late in the games 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: kind of let off the gas a bit, and this 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: is an opportunity where it looked like the game had 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: gotten away from them, and they continue to press and 69 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: continue to fight for it. But to your point where 70 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: I was, I mean that first half, the offense struggled, 71 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: and Matt, I mean, we've seen the Giants offense come 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: out so many times scoring on the opening drive this season. 73 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: That first half took a while for the offense to 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of get their sea legs going. What do you 75 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: make what you saw from the offense. 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was kind of a tail of two 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: halves for the offense in this game. I mean, in 78 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: the first half, the unit really struggled, only had seven points, 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: you know, went into halftime down twenty two to seven. 80 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart had that one interception late in the half 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: that directly led to the. 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Commander's late field goal. 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: But the thing you want to see from young players 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: is battling through adversity, and Jackson Dart came back in 85 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: the second half and looked so significantly better, you know, 86 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: through two touchdowns one hundred and seventy five yards all 87 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: in the second half, led the Giants to two other 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: drives that should. 89 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Have resulted in points. 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 4: One was the missed field goal and the other one 91 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: was the turnover on downs inside the five yard line. 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: So it wasn't a perfect performance from Jackson or from 93 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: the entire offense. But again, a sign of growth from 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: a young player is being able to adjust and improve 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 4: from one half to the other. And that's exactly what 96 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: we saw from Jackson on Sunday. 97 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want to see that growth from a 98 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: young quarterback. And speaking of young quarterbacks, Sunday Week sixteen, 99 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the Giants hosting the Vikings. Two young quarterbacks Jackson Dart 100 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: and JJ McCarthy is having his essentially red shirt rookie 101 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: season after being had his entire rookie season last year 102 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: with an injury. Two young quarterbacks, two swaggy quarterbacks. I mean, 103 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Giants fans are well familiar with Jackson Dar's aura. JJ 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy last week just hit the gritty into the end 105 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: zone to score a touchdown. They've got like that personality 106 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: and that moxie around them. But Russ, when you look 107 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: at just the talent level of these young quarterbacks as 108 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: they're building these you know, build blocks up these franchises, 109 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: what do you see in Jackson Dart and JJ McCarthy. 110 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, I mean in Jackson, you know, in Jackson Dart 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: what we see each week, he's got moxie, he's got character, 112 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: he's got charisma. I've said this to people. I've been 113 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: covering sports for a long time, forty years in the business, 114 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: and I will tell you I have not come across 115 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: in any sport a more mature, composed rookie than Jackson Dart. 116 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: And I mean that sincerely. I mean the way he 117 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: handles himself. He doesn't speak like a wide eyed rookie. 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: He speaks mature, He knows what he wants to say, 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 3: he doesn't get swayed, and he's got swagger on the field, 120 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 3: and he's got confidence in himself, and he's a leader. 121 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: In terms of as far as McCarthy goes, I don't 122 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: see him on a regular basis, you know. And we 123 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: were seeing a lot of not so good things the 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. We've seen good things as far 125 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: as doing his little dance whatever. I'm not killing anybody 126 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 3: for that, you know. That's that's the way. It drives 127 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: me crazy when guys pop up and do a dance 128 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: when they're losing by twenty one points and pointing showing 129 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: that they made a first down. So I'm not killing 130 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: somebody on that. But I mean the biggest thing, and 131 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: you asked me about the defense earlier, the biggest thing. 132 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't want our defense making McCarthy look good. Okay, 133 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 3: you know last week in that game, there were two passes. 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: One was a fifty one yard touchdown to McLaurin. It 135 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: wasn't because it was a great play. He was running 136 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: like he was a thoroughbred running in a wide open field. 137 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: And then there was another play. It was this stint. 138 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: I mean wide open, right, wide open down the field. 139 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: That stuff cannot happen. So let's not make them look good. 140 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: Let them have to work for looking good. 141 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: As far as work for it, I'm not, you know, 142 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: be like a Jonathan Casius defense giving up fifty on 143 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: a multiple time offens. Sorry, we just got a call. 144 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: It's a callback for regular watchers of our show. Here 145 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: we say it with love, jac But you know, because 146 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: you look at the way that you know this Giants 147 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: defense is going to approach going up against the Vikings offense. 148 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: What are the keys here? 149 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think number one, you got one of the 150 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: best receivers if not the best receiver on the outside 151 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: and Justin Jefferson and JJ can't really get going if 152 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: Justin is not involved. You know, JJ McCarthy has been 153 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: kind of up and down the season last couple of weeks, 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: putting up thirty points, but susceptible defenses. Statistically, he's not 155 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: really that great. He has eleven interceptions on the year. 156 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: But he's a guy if you get him going, if 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: you can get Justin Jefferson involved early. He's such a 158 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: phenomenal wide receiver. He's such a big play guy. He 159 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: can change a game and break it open the game. 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: And then they would love to run a football with 161 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason and the Giants, you know, giving up league 162 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: high almost six yards of carry. I don't see them 163 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 2: putting the ball in JJ's hands. I see them giving 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the ball to the run game, allowing first second down 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: as rush plays, run plays, and then have a manageable 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: third downs with the number one wide receiver on the outside. 167 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: That would be how I would attack the Giants defense. 168 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't try to put JJ McCarthy to be this. Oh, 169 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: look at our quarterback. No, let's look at our physicality 170 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: in our run game. Because the Giants can't stop anybody 171 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: in the run and then we'll convert something on third downs, 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: maybe get them to jump off side, because the Giants 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: have been getting pushed around in the run game consistently 174 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: this year. Yes, they did a good job when you 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: look at the numbers against the Commanders, but we all 176 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: watched the game. The Commanders ran the ball when they 177 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: needed to run the ball. They had big play runs, 178 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: they had touchdown runs. They was pushing the Giants around, 179 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: and the Giants had to figure out a way to 180 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: stop a team. Let it be the Vikings, let it 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: be the Raiders, whoever it is. They have to figure 182 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: out a way to stop a team because of a 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: team can run the ball. They don't care how good 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: or how talented their quarterback is, how talented receivers are. 185 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: They're just going to run the football. And the Giants 186 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to stop that. 187 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to figure out a way to stop 188 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: the run. Got to figure out a way to capitalize 189 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: on takeaways because, as you mentioned, JJ McCarthy is one 190 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: to be very charitable with the ball. Going into Week fifteen, 191 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: he had more turnovers than touch or interceptions than touchdowns. 192 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: Kind of leveled that out in Week fifteen there, but 193 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, if the Giants defense can capitalize that put 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: the offense in a good position to score as well. 195 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: That could be good for the offense, including for Tyrone 196 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: Tracy and THEO Johnson Matt who have been pretty key 197 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: for this offense. What are you expecting to see from 198 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Tracy and THEO in Week sixteen? 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is a tough matchup for the Giants offense. 200 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie the Vikings defense. You know, Minnesota 201 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: overall has been struggling this season, obviously with their record 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 4: they're six and eight. You know, they're not the best 203 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: team in the NFC or the NFC North, but their 204 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: defense has really been fantastic and it starts with their 205 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: past y. I mean, they rank within the top five 206 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: in passing yards, passing touchdowns. So this might be, you know, 207 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: a slightly tougher matchup for the offense as a whole 208 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: unit to really get going. But as you mentioned, Tyrone 209 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: Tracy has been playing really well lately. I mean he's 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: coming off a game against the Commanders where he averaged 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: over four and a half yards per Carrie came up 212 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: with a huge touchdown catch as well. You know, we 213 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: haven't really seen him play a i would say a 214 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: significant role in the passing game this season. But that 215 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 4: throw and catch from Jackson Dart to Tyrone Tracy in 216 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: the end zone against the Commanders was great, and you know, 217 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: kind of showed flashes of what we saw from Tyrone 218 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 4: last year in this Giants offense. So and Theo Johnson 219 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: as well. I mean he THEO led the Giants with 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: seventy two receiving yards this past week. Has been a big, 221 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: big part of the passing game week in and week out. 222 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: You know, he's clearly one of Jackson Dart's favorite and 223 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: most trusted targets. So this could be an interesting matchup. 224 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 4: You know, of the remaining defenses the Giants have left 225 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: to play this season, this is the one where you know, 226 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: might cause the Giants the toughest problem. So it'll be 227 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: good to see how these young players respond to going 228 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: up against a good defense. 229 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: Good challenge for this team, especially back at My Life Stadium. 230 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: We know, in Week fifteen it was quite cold out 231 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: there and it will probably be once again on Sunday 232 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: afternoon when the Giants host the Vikings. But listen, Russ, 233 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: we got a lot of history to get into with 234 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: this team. So let's get a little What do you know? 235 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: What do you say to light and things up around here? 236 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this, what do you know? What do 237 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: you say? Wouldn't it be nice if they could turn 238 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: back the clock and give us a score this week 239 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: that the Giants gave us a score back on January fourteenth, 240 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: two thousand and one. That was the NFC championship game 241 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: of the two thousand season. Final score at Giants Stadium 242 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: was Giants forty one, the Vikings nothing. Now. In that game, 243 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: they were five touchdowns scored by the Giants. Four players 244 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: doing the score. Ring one did it twice. Can you 245 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: name I'll make it a little easier for you. Can 246 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: you name three of the four players that scored the touchdowns? 247 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Three of the four players? 248 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: This is two thousand and one, he said, Amani Tumor. 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a champion NFC championship game. It's the 250 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: two thousand season was played in two thousand and one 251 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: January Moni Tumor is going, You're right, I. 252 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: Killard, go ahead, I kill your I kill your Yeah. 253 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Thanky Barber no, mm hmmm. Two thousand and one 254 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: one was before it was plax plexical. No, no, a 255 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: few more years. 256 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: Who's carry Collins throwing touchdowns? 257 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: Too? 258 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: All right? 259 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: No brand James one initial is J J. 260 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: Joe Jarvisius very good, good man. 261 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh Matt, no game in New York. 262 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: So you guys got original. Give me the fourth one? 263 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay, what's the hind for the fourth. 264 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: Running back? Full back? I believe. 265 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: You won't get this. 266 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't get this. I wouldn't get this one. Greg Kamella, 267 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: Oh no, by the way, I kill you, I kill 268 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: you scored two in that game. He I caught two 269 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: passes for forty six and seven yards Comella eighteen, Juravicious 270 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: eight and Amani seven. How about that five touchdown passes 271 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: in that game? That that was a cold day too. 272 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: I don't mind telling you. I remember that one very 273 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 3: very well. 274 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: Play home games in the Northeast, man in the Midwest. 275 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, that's why, like Mandlin brought it up before, 276 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: when sometimes people bring up why don't they make a dome, Hey, 277 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: it's the Northeast. Ain't nobody putting up domes in Northeast. 278 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: That's Northeast football. That's the way it is. If you 279 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 3: don't like to go move someplace, but it's Northeast football. 280 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I love it all right. Well, let's wrap this up 281 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: with a little over under because we've got Giants Vikings 282 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: the latest installment in this storied matchup here Giants Vikings, 283 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Week sixteen at MetLife Stadium. Let's do a little over 284 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: under spicings up, starting with THEO Johnson, the Giants tight end. 285 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Matt over or under seventy receiving yards for THEO and 286 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: for contacts. He had seventy two last week against Washington. 287 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and say over, even though 288 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: that is a high number for anyone, especially a tight end. 289 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: But the Vikings have been absolutely fantastic at limiting opposing 290 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: wide receivers, so this might be a tough game for 291 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: you know, Slayden Wandell. So I think THEO might end 292 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: up being Jackson's number one target in this game. So 293 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over seventy yards. 294 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: Russ Well, seventy yards is a lot. It is a lot. 295 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: It's a tight end, and you know, I'm gonna say under. 296 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 3: You know, I think it could be around that number, 297 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say under. 298 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: Jac Yeah, I'm gonna go over. I'm in sidetach here. 299 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: You know, thinking about Brian Floores his defense, how aggressive 300 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: they are. I think we're gonna see some screens from 301 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: the Giants a lot, and the two guys that they 302 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: feature a lot is THEO Johnson and also the running back, 303 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: whether it's Tracy or Singletary. So I believe what Sytak 304 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: was saying. He probably would be the number one wide 305 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: receiver in terms of yardage for the Giants of this game. 306 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think we've seen of late too, how 307 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: much they love using the tight end. Theo's pivotal part 308 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: for Jackson Dart. I'm gonna take the over as well. 309 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: And you mentioned Tyrone Tracy also a part of that 310 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: over under ninety total yards for Tyrone Tracy, that's rushing 311 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: and receiving total yards. He had ninety seven last week. 312 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: Jason, what do you think I'm gonna go over just 313 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: just what I said, you know, the screen game against 314 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: an aggressive defense that Brian Floyes runs, It's gonna incorporate 315 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: THEO Johnson, who they like to get to, and then 316 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: Tracy and then last week that touchdown catch against one 317 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: of the best linebackers we've ever seen play football. One 318 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: on one coverage. You kind of forget that he played 319 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: wide receiver not too long ago, and they might say, hey, 320 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: let's get this guy out on routes, especially when he's 321 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: matched up against these linebackers, because it's an advantage for 322 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: the Giants whenever Tracy gets out in the passing game. 323 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: Very true, Russ. 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna agree. I say it's over. 325 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 3: You know, we've been talking a lot about that great catch. 326 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: It was a great catch and you brought it up 327 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: man in a great throw also by Jackson Dart, but 328 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: not just to catch. How about that touchdown run? 329 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful run. 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: You know what that was? 331 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: That was old Mark Bavarro kind of like just pulling 332 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: people ahead, pulling with him barreling into the end zone. 333 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: I can't say enough about Tracy. I mean, he is 334 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: a real young guy, but a real pro And very 335 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: good point, Jc that people forget he was a wide receiver, 336 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, most of his career in college. So yeah, 337 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: I think that to add him into that pissing game 338 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: could be indicative of what I think we're gonna see. 339 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt, Yeah, I'm gonna go over as well. I 340 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 4: mean I talked about how great. The Vikings have been 341 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 4: against the pass, they've kind of struggled against the run. 342 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: That's definitely the area of this defense that you want 343 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 4: to attack is on the ground. And in his last 344 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: three full games, because obviously he left that Patriots game 345 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: early with the hip injury, left in the first half, 346 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: but his last three full games he's topped that ninety 347 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 4: yard mark easily. I mean this the Commanders game he 348 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 4: had ninety seven. That was the closest he got to 349 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: the ninety yard mark against the Lions, and against the 350 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: Packers he had one hundred and thirty or more total yards. 351 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 4: So I think he's gonna clear one hundred yards against 352 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: the Vikings on Sunday. 353 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Wooh, all right, going over over on this one, Mars, 354 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk defense. Giants defense. Can they take 355 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: down the quarterback JC over under two and a half 356 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: sacks on JJ McCarthy. 357 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go under here. I don't think this is 358 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: going to be a big passing game for either team. 359 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: I think both teams are going to try to stick 360 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: to the run and then have their young quarterbacks make 361 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: plays on third down. I just don't think the Giants 362 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: will have a lot of opportunities to get to the quarterback. 363 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: JJ is susceptible. He will hold on to the ball 364 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: a little bit longer. But I don't see him having 365 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: more than twenty twenty five pass attempt and they really 366 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: try to stick it to the Giants and run the football. 367 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go under. 368 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Matt. 369 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna go over. I mean, I hear what JC, 370 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying. And I don't know if 371 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 4: JJ is going to have a ton of passing attempts. 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect him to. But the Vikings offensive line 373 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: has given up sacks at a very high rate this year. 374 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: They rank six most sacks allowed on the season. JJ 375 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: McCarthy in more than half of the yards has been 376 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 4: sacked more than twice. So even if it's even if 377 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: the Giants evens don't have a ton of opportunities, I 378 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 4: think they're gonna get to him when they do have 379 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 4: the chance. So I'm gonna go over two and a half. 380 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: Sacks, all right, Russ, two and a half sacks means 381 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: they got to get three. If that's the number I 382 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: tend to I'm gonna say I agree with Jac. I'm 383 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: gonna go with the under on this. I mean they 384 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: could get a couple. If they get three, I'll be 385 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: more than happy, but say that I was wrong. But 386 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: I think three is pushing it. I'm gonna go with 387 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: maybe two sacks. Two sacks means it's got to be under. 388 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in agreement with you there too. I'm taking 389 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: the two sacks. I think the Giants have been on 390 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: a bit of a dry spell in terms of sacks 391 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: since Kveon Thibodeau has been out and not saying that 392 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: he's been providing a lot of the sacks, but that 393 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: pressure from his side has really been facilitating things for 394 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: other guys. I think two sacks is a good number, 395 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: and I'd be happy with that one. So I'll take 396 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: the under on this one, all right, Giants Vikings Sunday 397 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: at one pm at MetLife Stadium will be there. We'll 398 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: be wrapping it up and we'll be yapping about it 399 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: next week for more on the Giants hanging out brought 400 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: to you by Crosstaurant. Thanks for hanging with us today 401 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: for Russ Salzburg. Matt Sytek and the Super Bowl champion 402 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan can see us. I'm Madeleine Burke and we'll see 403 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: you next time.