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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? This has been something I haven't working

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Speaker 1: on for a while, you guys. Back when I was

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Speaker 1: planning the podcast and I hadn't started, I asked my niece,

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Speaker 1: who had obviously much younger, who should I have on?

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Speaker 1: And her words were Benny Drama.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, what's her name?

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Speaker 1: Her name is Zoe. Okay, sometime, but I've got been

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Speaker 1: me do Skinner. He's been very very busy, you guys.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like randomly you picked the one time I

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't do it week in Paris, I mean

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Speaker 1: that very high level.

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Speaker 2: I did Shacha Mouse, which you had been to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you not love Simone?

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Speaker 2: I love him so much and I thought you were

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Speaker 2: going to be there. I wish I was a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so sorry. I would have loved.

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Speaker 2: I looked around Versailles and I go, where's my girl?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I just have to talk Simon into not

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Speaker 1: putting me in butter yellow because it's like my worst

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't agree.

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Speaker 1: I think you look so incredible, but I mean you

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Speaker 1: can't say no to that man.

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Speaker 2: Well of course.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got right.

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want, Daddy's.

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Speaker 1: What I say. It is my least like color in

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 2: See, I don't see that for your min is like

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Speaker 2: a like a mustardy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that might top it. That might top it.

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Speaker 1: But they're kind of equal with me. But whatever I

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Speaker 1: did it, I did it from a book. It's not horrible.

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Speaker 1: I just did a job where that was their inspiration picture,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of funny perfect when I yellow the

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Speaker 1: most people. The inspiration picture that they had for me

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Speaker 1: to do the opening of the invitation to go to

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Speaker 1: the show was a Charlotte moment when I have a

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Speaker 1: sweater tied over my shoulder in true purpy form, and

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Speaker 1: they were like, can you look like this? And I

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Speaker 1: was like, well that was twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 2: Try yeah, I'm sure it's really perfect. Also, this whole

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Speaker 3: Going to be me acting like I don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: the scene you're talking about, you know, just to be

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Speaker 3: like a poor my peer.

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Speaker 1: God, thank god you know everything, because sometimes, as I

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Speaker 1: was saying, and I do feel and I don't know

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Speaker 1: in what order to talk to you about these things,

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Speaker 1: but like to me, you are doing all the things

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Speaker 1: right now. That are super fascinating in terms of our industry,

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Speaker 1: where our industry is going. You are on the forefront,

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Speaker 1: Benny like it. It's amazing. Okay, so I need advice

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Speaker 2: I don't think you do. I do this.

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Speaker 1: I really do. I really do. So Okay, let me

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Speaker 1: get this straight because I have now been on a

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Speaker 1: crash course. Okay, first of all, let me just back up.

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Speaker 1: So my niece says to me, Benny drama. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who is this person? I have to research? So I

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Speaker 1: start looking online. I see you obviously highly entertaining and interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know that you're in a show that

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Speaker 1: you created at this point with Kyle McLaughlin playing your father.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many connections.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean, finally I got Trey that was my.

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Speaker 3: Dad. It's kind of the alternate universe. This is who

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Speaker 1: But also he is more more it's like a more

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Speaker 1: almost Kyle like wackiness. Like it's a really good casting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. He's my favorite person. He's adorable,

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Speaker 3: he's just perfect. We had so much fun. I was

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Speaker 3: just with him recently and.

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Speaker 1: For the twenty four podcast which I watched.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my god, thank you. Wait okay a journalist.

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Speaker 1: I mean why not.

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Speaker 3: It's because everyone's like, oh, yeah, you can do this podcast.

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Speaker 3: But even this, I'm like, you're my heroes, Like I

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Speaker 3: grew up with your work. Like I'm just so this

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Speaker 3: is so And for the first thirty minutes it's just

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Speaker 3: me being like I can't believe it's you and my

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Speaker 3: brain just being like in hearing your voice, yeah, to

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Speaker 3: say that to Youla or it's like her voice, yes,

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Speaker 3: it's just like immediately I'm safe.

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Speaker 1: That is nice. I mean I'm going through such a thing,

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Speaker 1: like to go back and watch your work from so

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Speaker 1: long ago, you know, it is it's like therapeutic in

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Speaker 1: so many ways, but it's also kind of trippy in

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Speaker 1: long you have been actually doing this.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: And the kind of also like thinking of the stories

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Speaker 3: of the days, and I think that's even like, you know,

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Speaker 3: it back and it's just funny being like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: know what I felt like that day.

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Speaker 2: I was puffy that day.

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Speaker 1: Before, Yes, exactly the worst.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love it every day, but it's not really there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of scenes where I go some ice, I

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Speaker 1: think you look amazing, So do you all the time?

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Speaker 2: All the time?

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, I just want to backtrack in Benning World,

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Speaker 1: so stand up, YouTube or both at the same time.

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Speaker 3: It was the same time, but actually I think it

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Speaker 3: was Instagram first. Wow, yeah, which was kind of I

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Speaker 3: I was still in the closet in college, right and show.

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Speaker 1: That's what his show is about. If anyone hasn't seen

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Speaker 1: it on Amazon TV Prime is it's really really clever

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Speaker 1: and a version of this story that we have not seen.

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Speaker 1: So I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I can't wait to if we

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Speaker 2: get to do season two. I can't wait to make

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Speaker 3: Right. I feel like I don't know, you're so okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you and Connie sisters.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I love Connie so much.

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Speaker 2: Is I got so lucky. My parents were fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I started on Instagram with this thing called dubsmash. They

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Speaker 3: were like lip sync videos, okay, and I loved doing that.

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Speaker 1: But you just have like creative energy that had nowhere

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Speaker 3: I mean, even in this, I'm sure the comments will

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Speaker 3: And I think it's me as a New Yorker describing

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Speaker 3: saying like from the L to the.

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Speaker 1: See, it's mortifying, But I think it's important to say

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Speaker 1: it is not easy in this world, no to come

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Speaker 1: seems like we've made all these incredible strides forward, yet

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Speaker 1: They actually to that comment absolutely absolutely, I know what

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Speaker 1: the truth is. I mean, as you're getting older and

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Speaker 1: love you. You find your people and that's really all that matters, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, and this is one of

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Speaker 1: to be handling it great, but like, yeah, how to deal.

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Speaker 2: you're an actress who's done this for you.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't have it. First of all, the whole

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Speaker 3: You just read it in like oneew maybe exactly.

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Speaker 1: Like and then you just stop reading reviews, which you

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Speaker 3: That's the problem too, because you want to see the

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll save it for later. But I'm your wife

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Speaker 1: Like absolutely and sadly he failed. Yeah, but I did

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00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 1: not think that I should do that, you know what

441
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,199
Speaker 1: I'm saying, of.

442
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 2: Course, Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's the conversation.

443
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 3: It's like almost having those conversations, like the thoughts of

444
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 3: like having people to talk to that about. You know,

445
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 3: it's like that's almost sometimes all you need.

446
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's what a good intimacy coordinator is doing.

447
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 1: Like what is your concern you're in private? What is

448
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: your concern? You know, what do you want me to

449
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 1: watch for? What are you uncomfortable about? And like my

450
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: thing that I always say, and I mean usually it's

451
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: Evan right for me, and obviously I know him really well.

452
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: But you know, I did something else right before COVID,

453
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 1: which was I think my first time with an intimacy coordinator,

454
00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 1: and that was the questionable one. I had come from

455
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,600
Speaker 1: a dance background, so her idea was to count us

456
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: down like a dance number. Okay, kiss two, three four, roll?

457
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm glad. It's yeah, I'm dancing with the

458
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 3: starry I'm sorry.

459
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: I know another we were, but I was with another

460
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: really veteran actor, so thank god. But the thing that

461
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: I had done, which was helpful in private, she said,

462
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: what would you like? You know down here? Would you

463
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 1: like uh, you know, little patches, all the different choices?

464
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: And I said, well, what does he want? Because you

465
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 1: know you want to be on the same page. You

466
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: don't want to.

467
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: I was already scared. Yeah, he's going to throw a

468
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: dog out. But sorry, no, but you know what it's like. Wait,

469
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm your son and I'm sexual and I love you.

470
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,479
Speaker 1: Sorry, okay, but I'm also Charlotte.

471
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 3: Total total, and I'm telling you I'm always with charlottees love.

472
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: I surround myself with Charlotte. You do, and I think

473
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 3: I'm Charlotte Rising. We'll talk about Okay, I want.

474
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 1: To hear I wonder anyway we're way off. I love

475
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: it so much. I don't know where to go back to.

476
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: Gosh, it's yeah, when what his what? His version?

477
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 1: His version was cool? We can go with him now

478
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: because he's awesome, And I don't want to make it

479
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: seem like I'm complaining. It's going to be some fun

480
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of click.

481
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: I can tell to this is I was talking about,

482
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 3: They're like interesting the first time they does the tape. Yeah,

483
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 3: I didn't know that there was this is terrible, but

484
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 3: I hear it. I didn't know that there was like

485
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: a pad also like a sock essentially. I was just

486
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 3: like yes, and so I was like, oh, but and

487
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: the whole thing was sticky. So it just ripped all

488
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: the hair off under my mom and I was like,

489
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 3: oh my and I'm like crying in my trailer and

490
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god.

491
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: I just I was not.

492
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 3: So then after that, I, you know, more conversations with

493
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 3: costume and.

494
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: It needs to be involved. Definitely, definitely. I mean I

495
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: believe that my very seasoned coastar who I was with,

496
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: who I love very much, there was a towel, Okay,

497
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: so there was like a everyone was covered privately, right,

498
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: and then there was a towel in between, kind of

499
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: like a traditional con.

500
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, moms to figure that out.

501
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, my god, even more interesting. I mean,

502
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: it was more just for you know protection, you know

503
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

504
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just no matter what, it's weird and straight. Yeah,

505
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: it's just straight, and it does get brought up so much.

506
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: Like during press, I really was just like, oh, so

507
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 3: many people ask about this.

508
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 1: And I think people are very curious, and I get it.

509
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: I get it, especially if you are in something like

510
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: your show or our show where there is a lot sex.

511
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: But let's get back to the business for a second,

512
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: and then we're going to talk about the show. Okay,

513
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm super fascinated. So you started

514
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: just doing stuff on the Instagram. Yeah, with a different

515
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: voice because you didn't want anyone to know you were

516
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: gay from your voice, which is like set put adorable. Yeah,

517
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: and then at a certain point you come out and

518
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: you decide, okay, I can use my voice, and then

519
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: you are more free and you start doing more skits

520
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: and you put them on YouTube. Yeah.

521
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 3: It was so it was kind of like, I the

522
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: floodgates were open once I was out and I met

523
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: my boyfriend Terry, and it was like, you know, he said,

524
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: your Instagram's private, like you should make it public, because

525
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: I told him randomly i'd met him, and I had

526
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: never really said this out loud. But he's like, what

527
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 3: do you what do you really want to be? Like,

528
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm looking at your Instagram. You keep making these sketches,

529
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: and I was like, I just like really want to

530
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: be an actor.

531
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: But I'm from Idaho.

532
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: So that was now, which is crazy.

533
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: It was just like that wasn't on the menu.

534
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: And then I went to school at Georgetown, which also,

535
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, not a lot of actor yeah, and feels

536
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: very like, you know, you would go more into like

537
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: government or journalism, right, you know, And so I was like, okay,

538
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna not say it there either. And then

539
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: for some reason, in a park in Williamsburg one day

540
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: to him, I was like, I want to be an

541
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: actor so bad. And he's like, I don't know anyone

542
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: in that industry. And he's like, I don't know anyone

543
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: who's gone into it. He's like, you don't know anyone

544
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: is I think maybe the internet is probably the only way.

545
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: And I thought too, I was like, yeah, that's kind

546
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: of my thought that like maybe I'll like, like do

547
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 3: you just.

548
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: Go viral and then you get an agent and then

549
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: you're in a movie?

550
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: You know.

551
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know how this works for me,

552
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: he just did.

553
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: So I was just like, yeah, I would go to

554
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: work in the morning. I was editing videos first startup,

555
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: and then they paid for Premiere Pro on this on

556
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: this computer, right, so it's like great, I have I

557
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: have an editing software now. So I would go and

558
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: then after work I would go and buy a coffee

559
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: and like make my videos for the rest of the.

560
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: Night until like one am, and then we're happening.

561
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 3: And then it was like I did that probably for

562
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: like four or five months, and then I made this

563
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: queer Eye parody video and that one kind of I

564
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: finally saw like oh, like a lot of comedians that

565
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: I loved were sharing it and actors and the cast responded,

566
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: which was like the first time I'd had that kind

567
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: of connection, and they were also sweet and really, I think,

568
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, I've always come to comedy, and I hope

569
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: that people feel this way of anyone I've done an

570
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: impression of that. I like, I never do something that

571
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: I don't enjoy, like I love If I love someone's music,

572
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: I'll do an impression of them. It's never really coming

573
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 3: from like me. I'm not pointing at you, Yeah, I'm

574
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: just kind of like this is an internet version of

575
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: you and like a you know, my caricature of this.

576
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: Totally, I haven't done it.

577
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: Which is so crazy. I always wanted to do it.

578
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: I don't know what because I should do it, because

579
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: I think for voices I could probably do you in

580
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: Samantha the easiest totally, but yeah, Sarah, Jessica's hard, I

581
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: don't know. And then and she's a little hard yeah,

582
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: and I feel.

583
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: Like okay, then maybe yeah, I'm like definitely. It takes

584
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: me like that.

585
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: I remember the first time Saturday Night Live parody and

586
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh my god, and you're like scared,

587
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: and then you're like excited. I mean, it really is flattering.

588
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: It is in the end, it's flattering.

589
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 3: I think that's what some I've had some conversations with

590
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: people I've done, and I think at first they think like, WHOA,

591
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 3: well you're not sure, you know, yeah, They're like because

592
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: I think that naturally. I think we grew up, like

593
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: I definitely did, around a time where it was more

594
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: like sketches on YouTube and things were a little bit meaner,

595
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: like if you were going to do a parody of someone,

596
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: it was usually you were like really not you know,

597
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: you and kind of going below the belt. And so

598
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: I understood that people maybe come to my you know,

599
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: came to my videos with with caution and yeah being.

600
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: Suspicious, But how did so how did you know to

601
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: put them on YouTube?

602
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: That was just something I was I was watching YouTube

603
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: at work all the time, and I was watching makeup

604
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 3: artists Nick tutorials, so it's like my number one yeah

605
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: and and like Jackie Aina, and they were all teaching

606
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 3: me how to do Kardashian makeup because I was doing

607
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: Kardashian like you.

608
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: Had to know how to do it very complicated.

609
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 3: It was so hard, and I was like I kind

610
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 3: of want to look I want to try and look

611
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: like them. And then I started to love doing makeup too,

612
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: so but it was just I was like, Okay, I

613
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: feel like YouTube's a good place for this. And YouTube

614
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: is never like my major. It was always but I

615
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: was very smart to do. But I was like, great,

616
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: we'll do YouTube too. And then I started like a

617
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: Zodiac series and that kind of ended right before COVID.

618
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: During COVID, I just like went.

619
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Full, it's incredible that you did this before COVID, like

620
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: you were on it.

621
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: Man.

622
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: No, I really am like I can't make any more videos,

623
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: is what I'm finding.

624
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: I guess.

625
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: I as as the show has come out, I'm like, oh,

626
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: people keep finding old ones, and I'm like, that is

627
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 3: not funny. I'm really I did not need to see

628
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: that one again. But but I love it right because.

629
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm by years ago. You know what I'm saying,

630
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: and it's Goodly there's something that doesn't hold up, you know,

631
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: it's that's okay. We can talk about it like we grow,

632
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: we learned. Society changes, sometimes for better, sometimes not for better.

633
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: You watch it back, you go, I like you are

634
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: you ever? Like I ate that day.

635
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: I have to think that when you step out after

636
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: you've had the miscarriage. Sorry, such a devastating No, it's

637
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: devastating people when you step out in that pink dress.

638
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten. I mean, I know the look, I

639
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: know the look. I all think this. This this is

640
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: back to my thank you, thank you. I As you said,

641
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: when you're watching your work, you have so many different

642
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: thoughts that go through about the day you filmed, about

643
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: what was going on in your life at that Like,

644
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: so many different things flood you, you know, not necessarily

645
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: objective things like I ate in that scene or whatever. Yeah,

646
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,239
Speaker 1: I will think this though from the early because I'm

647
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: only in second season. I will think my hair looks great.

648
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it always that That's.

649
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: What I think. You're like, Wow, they did a great job.

650
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Now there's a couple of questionable styles, and that so

651
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: was I'm like, why am I wearing that eyeshadow? I

652
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: think the most random, weird things about myself. Yeah, I

653
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: want to go back to YouTube for a second. Okay, yeah,

654
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: because do you know that the whole entire industry is

655
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 1: like unbelievably obsessed with YouTube right now? Do you know this?

656
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: I kind of? I mean, YouTube.

657
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: Numbers are super crazy in a way that none of

658
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: the other streamers, with the exception of Netflix, which obviously

659
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: has its own market share, that they were way ahead

660
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: where Max.

661
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: And Prime Video Girls were. You know, we're doing the best.

662
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: We're never going to reach either one of these two.

663
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of consternation. There's a lot of consternation.

664
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: But you very smartly put your stuff on YouTube and

665
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: then how did you go from there to your own show?

666
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: I need to know, my god.

667
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So the the short of it kind of because

668
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: like I have to talk to you about fifteen different

669
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: Charlotte looks.

670
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: And also to tell you why I wore this way.

671
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: There was a whole journey.

672
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so I it's a good color.

673
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: Actually, thank you so much. It it was a yeah,

674
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: I almost wore butter yellow, but it's got none could

675
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: So it was.

676
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: Actually a very like New York story.

677
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Caroline's on Broadway emailed me, I'm so sad they're not

678
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: there anymore. I don't think they haven't been in a while,

679
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 3: which is so sad because that was such a special place.

680
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: And they reached out to me because of my sketches

681
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: on the Instagram YouTube and we're like, do you have

682
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: a live show because we're doing New York Comedy Fest

683
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: and we want kind of a range of different shows.

684
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, of course I have a live show.

685
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: And I was like I need to.

686
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Pay rent, you know what.

687
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: I thought like, oh yeah, maybe I could do this

688
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: to pay rent because I didn't. I had gotten fired

689
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: from this job. I had absolutely no money. My boyfriend

690
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: let me live with him. I was just like I, okay, cool, yeah, great,

691
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: I'll make a live show. So I kind of did

692
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: like a stand up boot camp where I was like,

693
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: I'll say yes to every And I had kind of

694
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: been writing like stand up lines for a bit, but

695
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: not a show what a show would look like. But

696
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: I wrote this show called Overcompensating, and it was a

697
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: stand up show about me being in the closet in

698
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: high school and college, and then it kind of wove

699
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: in my characters and kind of my journey and how

700
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: I felt like both really confident and then also like,

701
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: you know, you come out and then you're like, okay,

702
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: so I'm gay, but also like who am I as

703
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: a person now that I've been so stifled I think

704
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: for so long. So yeah, that was kind of the

705
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: amazing the I guess like ethos of that show. And

706
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: then during that time, my agent reached out to me

707
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 3: and he was like, you know, I'm watching your sketches

708
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: and they're starting to feel like more episodic. So it's

709
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 3: doing these Kardashian ones, and they would be like Kardashian Christmas.

710
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar the classic.

711
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: Cardaccian christ but and I was like, no, I didn't

712
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: go to school for it, but thank you for reaching out,

713
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: you know. I'm like always great to get a call

714
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: from my agent and he was like, no, just like

715
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: just try it.

716
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: You don't have to.

717
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, you can figure out formatting later,

718
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: but you're writing scenes, and so I was like, okay, great.

719
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: So I went into my notes app and the first

720
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: scene I wrote was this pregame scene with Benny Carmon

721
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: and Haley and I had a character at that time

722
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: named Hailey, and it just like fully.

723
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Inspired the character she is now amazing.

724
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: Brilliantly by Holmes.

725
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I went to this kind of

726
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: like core relationship between gay men and women, and I

727
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: was like, I think when I met this girl in college,

728
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: it was the first time I wasn't overcompensating so much.

729
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: I started to tiptoe out of the closet and I'm like,

730
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've seen that relationship on screen

731
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: in a while. That shows how complicated it is, too,

732
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: because it's very complicated, like sexually and emotionally. And then

733
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: in the end I'm like, I my girls like saved

734
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, my life and like changed my life amazing.

735
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: And then how did it become a show?

736
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

737
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: So I wrote the pilot because I thought Internet boy,

738
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: I got to just write this thing or else, no

739
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 3: one's going to believe that I can. So I kind

740
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: of went on a boot camp again. I watched the

741
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: Shonda Rhimes master Class. Yeah, my friend gave me her

742
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: dad's log in for master class. Thank you, Shonda. It's

743
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: a fabulous master class.

744
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, and I just wondered and I just was

745
00:32:59,400 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: like how I.

746
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: But also I also didn't learn too many rules of scriptwriting.

747
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: So in my scripts, I like talk to the reader,

748
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: which I didn't know, like I try to make the

749
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: reader laugh, which I didn't.

750
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like, oh, I want.

751
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: This to be fun to read, because I assume a

752
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: lot of people are reading scripts all, you.

753
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: Know, all day.

754
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: So I would say like, you know how that feels

755
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: lull or like things like that as you know, or

756
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: I'd be like I hate I hate how my fingers

757
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: feel right now, or like I would just say it's

758
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: kind of like random.

759
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Like intimate, it's kind of it.

760
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: Very yeah, where I would be like I hate writing

761
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: this scene, you know, And so I left them in.

762
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: And then A twenty four joined and I felt so

763
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: lucky for that, And then Jonahill and Strong Baby joined Wow,

764
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: and then Charlie joined the project and then we took

765
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: it out in Amazon swipe rat.

766
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: What a lovely, lovely, incredible story. Just gives me whole

767
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: lucky for the young people yeah out there who need

768
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: to express themselves.

769
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like and also, so you know, I

770
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: didn't know anyone in the industry, and I think that's

771
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: the beauty of the Internet. Like I think also because

772
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: I came up with like Broad City and Issa Ray

773
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: and these people that did kind of come originally from

774
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: like YouTube or Instagram or right that or Twitter even

775
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: sure that, you know, I think it kind of has

776
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: opened these like Hollywood iron gates.

777
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing, right, they should never be iron you know,

778
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: they should never be ironed.

779
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, but it is interesting because people bring that

780
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: up a lot of like it's like to be come

781
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: from the Internet, and I'm like, well, yeah, I don't know.

782
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: It just feels like another way to access this, like

783
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: many jobs.

784
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: I think for you guys, that's what it is right

785
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: for us, where the Internet didn't exist when we started,

786
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: I mean literally didn't exist, Like it's impossible. Like my

787
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: children do not understand. I keep trying to say, like

788
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: it's crazy they didn't have it. They're like, well, do

789
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: you know, when you were looking at your iPad, I'm like, yeah, no, no.

790
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: A printed headshot.

791
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Think about it exactly. That you that you spent so

792
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: much money off of course, but I still did.

793
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: I paid an agent in New York and someone was like, so,

794
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: just to be clear, you should never pay an agent

795
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 3: to join.

796
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: They're like, so you shouldn't pay.

797
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: An agent unless you yourself are making I was like, okay.

798
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: The right is like thank god, because I do think

799
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: there used to be. I mean I would have friends

800
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: who would go to like this class with that classroom.

801
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: You know what, there's so many weird almost scam things.

802
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: Oh I was so hard to get in.

803
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm very easily scammed. I would say, I'm glad I

804
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: can say that, but I'm always like yeah, of course, yeah, yeah,

805
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. I did an acting class in like North Hollywood.

806
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,959
Speaker 3: That midway through I was like, so I do think

807
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: that this is a front for the cartel. There is

808
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: something did you ever watch Barry No.

809
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: Take class? And then there's a cartel and some kind

810
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: of connection remember okay, well.

811
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: That's always Valley okay, oh yeah, then that's where I

812
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 3: was really inspired.

813
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: I think you would like Barry because Barry has a

814
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: real darkness about it. Oh yeah, interest, you can feel

815
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: that in me. I mean really, you do have a

816
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of different things.

817
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: I will love it. Also still hater.

818
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Done, He's amazing, Yes, done, I mean so funny.

819
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: I need to watch more TV. I'm just kind of rewatching.

820
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: When you're doing TV, you have no time to watch TV.

821
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: No, and sometimes watching it, my brain right now is like, oh,

822
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: they paid so much for that, you know.

823
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 2: I'm like that needle drop costs so much money.

824
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, there's the brand deal that actually was

825
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: really no, it's hard and especially.

826
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: When you know people people and I do try to

827
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: watch my friends work, but like I have to be

828
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: in the right headspace because like you can't give up

829
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: and just watch as a viewer because you know them

830
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: too well.

831
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 3: It's so it is totally where I had that with

832
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: with Mary Beth. At first, I would watch the show

833
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: and in the first episode I was like, I think

834
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: it was the first scene.

835
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's funny, it's it's us. She's

836
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: very funny, and oh she's brilliant.

837
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: And then in the second scene, I was like, oh

838
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: my god, like my girl, I'm like, oh, yeah, we're.

839
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: So locked in and it's such a great character.

840
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

841
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: I just thought that was too much because make Stalter,

842
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: I've known her for a while and I'm like so

843
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: proud of her and the show is so amazing, Like

844
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 3: I know, make so it is it does take a second.

845
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: For your brain. And then I was just like, yeah,

846
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: she's brilliant.

847
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean you want to support and you want to

848
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: watch and you want to be able to talk to

849
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: them about it, but at the same time, it's just

850
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: a different part of your brain that you're using, I

851
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: think to watch. Let's talk about the show.

852
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so there's this show.

853
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: You're so much fun anything.

854
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So I just background. The first time I watched

855
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: X in the City in its entirety was actually when

856
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: I got asked by Carolines to do that show. I

857
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: was so nervous and I was like, for some reason,

858
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: I just think, now is the time I'm going to

859
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: watch it, because I had seen episodes and movies, but

860
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I'm going to do my like

861
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: locked in.

862
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm watching it from start to finish.

863
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: Everything that's interesting.

864
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: And it like got me through that time of like

865
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 3: insane nerves and then also just like I was living

866
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: in New York, so I really you know, it's there

867
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: fantasy very and then I did it again right before

868
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: I did Writer's Room for Overcompensating, and then when we

869
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: finished shooting, I did it again. Oh my god, I

870
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 3: can watch it and it is me and Mary best

871
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: thing of like, if we can't find something hot child

872
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: in the city, let her it hot Letter.

873
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: I think it's the best episode.

874
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: Wait, I think it's one of the best episodes in

875
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: the I really think it's one of the best episodes.

876
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Okay, no one has ever said those words.

877
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: Wait, really, I think it is expertly crafted and it

878
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: literally feels like New York in the summer.

879
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, can I tell you the story behind it? I

880
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: haven't rewatched it yet, right, and there's certain ones where

881
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so curious how I'm going to feel

882
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: about this when I watch it. Yeah, we you know,

883
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: some summers, like this current summer in New York are

884
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: like so hot, like aggressively hot, like if you opened

885
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: the door, you're like kind of hit by a wave

886
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: of heat. Some summer's not so much. We'd been filming.

887
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: We would usually go to work in February we'd be freezing, freezing,

888
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: think old in our tiny dresses, trying to pretend that

889
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: we weren't trying not to see our breath. We would

890
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: work all through the summer and wrap in August, so

891
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: we would get the beautiful spring and then the hot

892
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: and then we would go home and do award shows

893
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: and whatever. Once that got rolling, right, yeah, but then

894
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: we go back in February and also freeze. So one

895
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: summer it was one of those like one hundred plus

896
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: all summer and we were just dying. I mean we'd

897
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: have to reapply and makeup so much and we'd just

898
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: be like, oh, deliriously hot and tired and whatever. So

899
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: they wrote the show Hot Child in the City for

900
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: the next summer.

901
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Not hot, Oh it was cold.

902
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: No, hell, it was funny. It isn't there like a

903
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: hose situation or something. There's there's something.

904
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: Because in the City ends on the rooftop.

905
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: No, oh my god.

906
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, iconic moment where you're And then it got hard.

907
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Because that was like one of the last scenes we filmed.

908
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: It feels very and the energy is.

909
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: Yes, the tar was so soft that we got tar

910
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: on all of our shoes. Oh and Cynthia and I.

911
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: You know you do right, you know how you get

912
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: like gifts or food or things. We had decided that

913
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't know why we didn't talk to locations before

914
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 1: we made the decision. We decided to bring an ice

915
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: cream truck. But we were home and roof and it

916
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: was a very tall building. Yes, so the ice cream

917
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: trucks down there, and they and their stairs because they've

918
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: taken the elevator for the lights and then like the

919
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: technical stuff boxes. Yes, like up and up and up

920
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: and up city.

921
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: It is right. I think that's I think it is.

922
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't we watched it yet.

923
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 2: I wonder if I'm wrong. Someone will come.

924
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: From this is the joy. No, No, no one's going

925
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: to come for you. Because what I've found in my

926
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: rewatching is that people have different scenes that stand out

927
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: to them from different episodes, and they might mesh them together.

928
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: And that's cool. I'm trying to say, oh, yeah, it's

929
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: about your experience watching.

930
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 2: It's the world.

931
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 3: It's like, it's all and it's funny that this is

932
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: the episode we're talking about today, because I Charlotte stands

933
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 3: out to me in this one, because it's so this

934
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: storyline is I.

935
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: Need to know your thoughts because I didn't remember the

936
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: storyline at all.

937
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: It's what I care about, aesthetics something, So talk about

938
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: a good hair day for you that brunch.

939
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: It looked good, it looked good. I was into my hair. Yes,

940
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: my hair is finally growing out from the haircut they

941
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: made me get for the pilot.

942
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: No, it's so cute the hair in the pilot. There's

943
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 3: so many different takes on hair in that.

944
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: Well we didn't have our people yet.

945
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's so interesting because Sara Jessica's brunette.

946
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Right and kind of like how she was, you know,

947
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: like my color.

948
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: The change from episode one to two is really a

949
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: lot pilot.

950
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: The pilot culture so.

951
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Right. It's crazy, I think for her because she was

952
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: in very much like a Broadway you know, like I'm

953
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: going to be myself. I mean I thought she looked

954
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: amazing that way. I think Darren really had Candace in

955
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: his mind, right, and I don't. I think Sarah Jessica

956
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to be playing Candace as

957
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: Candace because this has to be my own character, right.

958
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: So there are certain things that she that she took

959
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: and she very much knew that world but then I

960
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: think there were other things where she was like, well,

961
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm want to be myself, right, But then Darren was like,

962
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: we're going to work on the hair. And then I've

963
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: never told anyone this, but since you're here and you're you,

964
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: so my hair was you know, it's natural, pristine, pure

965
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: untouched color. When we begin at a certain point, I

966
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: want to say in second season, they come to me,

967
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: the producers, John Melfi by name, and they were like,

968
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: your hairs just it's too dark. And I'm like, what

969
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: do you What do you mean? I'm the brunette. I'm

970
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: the only one you're like, and they said it's hard

971
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: to light and I'm like, but why?

972
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: I know?

973
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: Right? So I had to go get my hair colored

974
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: with highlights. I had never done it. I knew nothing. Okay.

975
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: I took a huge canvas, like who should I go to?

976
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Who's going to be subtle? I don't want some time?

977
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: Yes?

978
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, ended I ended up there, but I didn't start there.

979
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: How do I know that you're on it?

980
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know like my grandma's middle name, but

981
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: I know that you know. It's like that's unfortunately.

982
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Important, it's important information. My current colorists started as an

983
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: assistant in New York. See you're there, so I go.

984
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: I get these highlights. They are very subtle. In the beginning,

985
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: they weren't enough. So come whatever season, I want to

986
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: say third, we haven't gotten to it yet. At a

987
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: certain point, I have kind of freakishly weird highlights that

988
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: then grow out because no one really told me, like

989
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: you have to go get them touched up. I didn't

990
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: have any gray then, right, I'm young, so like we

991
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: would be working okay, Charlotte a stripe, like a yellow stripe,

992
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: and we were so tired. I don't think we noticed

993
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: it because you know, I lived in ponytails at that point.

994
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: It was hot, right, and I've got like a yellow stripe.

995
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: No one even tried to fix it or color send

996
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: me back or whatever. It's pretty funny.

997
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: It is like you can really, and I'm sure you're

998
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: feeling this. You can see the things that are shot

999
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: at the beginning of production and at the end.

1000
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: And when it looks a little different, and especially like

1001
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: when you lose your mind because you're not sleeping, like

1002
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: all the things.

1003
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: Some of the choices, I'm like, damn, Okay, Benny was

1004
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: manic here. I like that Yeah.

1005
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so happy to hear that other people are

1006
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: worried about hair because I have to say I was

1007
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: like very specific of like I don't want wigs and

1008
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: I want I want that.

1009
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: Take. I agree. I always saw the boys and I'm

1010
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: also the hairline. And also, no one touches their hair

1011
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: when they're wearing a wig. It just do.

1012
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't have Yeah, people touch their hair all super

1013
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: college girl. I'm like, it should just feel so both

1014
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 3: Homes and Marybeth.

1015
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: To dye their hair.

1016
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: That was sweet of them, Yes, was very sweet. And

1017
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: that was and we offered Wiggs. Of course, we're like,

1018
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: if you really don't want to, but I think also

1019
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: to me, I'm kind of like dying for someone to

1020
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 3: tell me that. I'm sure everyone's like, yeah, but I do.

1021
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 3: I kind of like it feels like you could just

1022
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: get into the character. Like there's something about seeing it

1023
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: in the mirror and that shift.

1024
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: I think changing your hair.

1025
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that feels so.

1026
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: See. My problem was that I didn't think Charlotte would

1027
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: have highlights.

1028
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: Well I agree with that. Oh she would never right,

1029
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: So I was even seemed kind of crazy.

1030
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: Well that was me kind of fighting for change because

1031
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: at a certain point they would say to me two

1032
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: or three different things that I would just be like, man,

1033
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: you guys are killing me. They'd be like, they'd be like,

1034
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: Charlotte doesn't get angry. This was maybe for like two

1035
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: solid years, and I was like, you guys.

1036
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: It's time, come on.

1037
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, after all this, Yeah, all these.

1038
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: Dudes, I think it's about time that. Oh god, what

1039
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 2: what episode is that when you're friend like, where is he? Oh?

1040
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean fifteen I'm exhausted. Yeah, that's third season.

1041
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: Third season in my mind is when we really were

1042
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: firing on all cylinders.

1043
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's really the show does know who it

1044
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: is immediately, I.

1045
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: Will say, definitely. And that's the yeah it is.

1046
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean, what a delicious moment when you don't have

1047
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: any more direct to cameras. Oh that was crazy, but

1048
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: you test oh yeah, because it's just like it just

1049
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: takes away from for iconic actresses.

1050
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: And also you can't be with each other. You're like

1051
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: looking at a camera for some unknown reason. And when

1052
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: Carrie's talking to herself with voiceover but then has to

1053
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: look at the camera.

1054
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: No, Jessica, well we say high flea bag, let's go

1055
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: every now and then I'm like, oh, love back, It's

1056
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: my favorite show.

1057
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more time that I'm

1058
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: just so impressed.

1059
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much.

1060
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: Yes, and I also really desire that you meet Michael

1061
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: Patrick King.

1062
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: Oh I'm dying too, because I'm dying to meet my king.

1063
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?

1064
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: I care so much to talk to him about, right,

1065
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 3: that would be You want to talk about an A

1066
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: D D Lent Yeah, I.

1067
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Yes, because he used to teach a class that Lena

1068
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: Waite took for Show owners.

1069
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my.

1070
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: God, I would love and she gives him so much.

1071
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: Show knows that Scott King, who I worked on this with,

1072
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: they know each other and only has the best things

1073
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 3: to say about him.

1074
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: I love all my kings.

1075
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: The Kings are kings. Tell me the looks you want

1076
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: to talk about, and then we're going to talk about this.

1077
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: I wore a big pony polo today for you because

1078
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: Charlotte worked at Ralph Lauren. I was an Abercrombie Greeter,

1079
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: so real recognized real, real recognized real. But so I

1080
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: tried to find the sweater with my stylist. We were

1081
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: trying to find the original sweater that you wear when

1082
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: you're in the bookstore.

1083
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 2: I believe.

1084
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a breast cancer, so I don't think they're

1085
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: making it anymore making it.

1086
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: I love them to reissue.

1087
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: I agree.

1088
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find these. I wanted to do a

1089
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 2: little tight.

1090
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: Little Oh my god, that would be awesome. But this

1091
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: looks great.

1092
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: We found this and I was like, okay, I think

1093
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 3: it color.

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00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: That's working.

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00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: Stop, let me get you in.

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00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: Yes, but okay, So a few of my favorite outfits.

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00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: I love the Proud ellipstick skirt.

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00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: I still own it, and I get it out for

1099
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: special reasons. Megan Stallion came on the episode, as did

1100
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Lena Waite. On the same day. I had a lipstick skirt.

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00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm a good company.

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00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: It was a day. It was a day. Oh my god,

1103
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: it was so I wore the lipstick skirt. I only

1104
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: get it out for special things. But I do love it.

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00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: Okay, that is obsessed. Okay.

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00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: Can I also tell you I chose that. I was

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00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: flying back and forth a lot, and I was reading,

1108
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, old school paper magazines. Yeah, and it was

1109
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: in the product ad and I had become a produ

1110
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: fanatic at that point. I was like, you're the product girl,

1111
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: Like that. Yeah, I mean I spent so much money.

1112
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: The silhouettes, like, come on, they're perfect. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1113
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: My business manager called me one time. He's really sweet.

1114
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: I've had him for thirty five years, and he said,

1115
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: he said, I'm just confused, like the product charges are

1116
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: so big. How many pairs of shoes can you buy?

1117
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, run, they make.

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00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: These sweety you go, well, so there's sweaters, there's headbands,

1119
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 3: there's scarves, pursues, wallet's even now even key chains.

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00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then it's like and we haven't even

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00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: gotten into trousers, you know.

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00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: And I had a discount, but that's how bad it

1123
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: was at one point.

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00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know when they start texting you, that's

1125
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: when you're like on your you get more texts from

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00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: them from you, mew in uh no know. The Memei

1127
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: in Toronto text me more than family. I would say

1128
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 3: at this time.

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00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I've gone to the product in Toronto and Vancouver.

1130
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

1131
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: It's better. It's better sometimes.

1132
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 2: Vancouver, Right, I did a show.

1133
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: You spend a lot of money there? Yeah, god me see,

1134
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: I know, kids, I don't I love it.

1135
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 3: I love it.

1136
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: But anyway, I had been looking at that, and I

1137
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: was like, I need to have that outfit. And so

1138
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: I went to Pat and I said, I need to

1139
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: have this outfit and it would be great for when

1140
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: I meet Trey. She like, know, we have to have

1141
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: four of them because you're falling in the street. And

1142
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let's find four of them. I've

1143
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: called everyone and they don't have four of them. Like,

1144
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: let's call Europe, let's call headquarters, let's call Milan, let's

1145
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: call let's call it. The problem with China is they

1146
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: in the Asian market is all the skirts are shorter.

1147
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh.

1148
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: I learned this from shopping at Prada Tokyo because because

1149
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: the people are Wow.

1150
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: I learned this from shopping product Tokyo. This is the

1151
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 3: best moment.

1152
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 2: Of my life. Like, I mean, exactly where I need

1153
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: to be exactly.

1154
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I got the things home and I was like, oh,

1155
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: I can't wear this. I'm going to get to my

1156
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: very very small friend Lauren.

1157
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Okay, anyway, yeah.

1158
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: She found them. God bless her, God bless her. And

1159
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: then I wore to fall in the street with Kyle,

1160
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: and of course I was so worried about the skirt

1161
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: that I didn't even get it dirty. Yeah, of course, yeah,

1162
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: but they had to wet it down so it looked beautiful. Yeah. Yeah,

1163
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: well that then I think we now we get to

1164
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: keep everything as in our contract. But back then I

1165
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: think they just were nice and were like, what would

1166
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: you like to choose? You know what I mean?

1167
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely had some actors steal.

1168
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens.

1169
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 3: I keep seeing Yatesmirch everywhere and I'm like, interesting, Oh

1170
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: so I'm like, we potentially would make another season. So

1171
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: where'd you get that?

1172
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm interesting went together. Yeah, but I did keep.

1173
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: A lot and I bring back stuff too. But the

1174
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: other outfits you.

1175
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, well, I'm actually curious what your favorites are.

1176
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: The skirt would be up there. I love the Zach

1177
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Po's and black swan. I would never want to own

1178
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: it though, because it was very high main but I

1179
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: loved it stressful, partly because I love Zach. Yeah, and

1180
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: Zach had come to that day. He was at a

1181
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: weird time with this business. You know, He's been through

1182
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down, and he came to

1183
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: the day when we were our first day at the library,

1184
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: when we were all dressed and he was standing across

1185
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: the street with the crowds.

1186
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1187
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: We were like, is that Zach Oh, oh my god.

1188
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: Come he was so shy.

1189
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

1190
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: He just wanted to see. What was it?

1191
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: Like? Do you get so nervous before scenes when everyone's

1192
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: watching and paparazzi like that?

1193
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: To me, it feels to it.

1194
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know what it is now? I think

1195
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: because we took time away, we appreciate them. And also

1196
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: there's like this interactive thing that happens. Like there's a

1197
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: scene this past season where Sarah, Jessica and I are

1198
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: walking along. I'm wearing a flower dress and she's wearing

1199
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: black and white and we're in the village. It was

1200
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: hot and there were maybe one hundred and fifty people

1201
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: on the other side of the street. Yeah, so amazingly

1202
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: helpful and quiet, like like we would say to them,

1203
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: like when we say rolling, can you guys be quiet?

1204
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: But it was a tiny street. It wasn't even like

1205
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: a big one, right or like an avenue or anything.

1206
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: And they be hushed, Oh okay, that's amazing.

1207
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: So like you feeling like you're yes, you have to

1208
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: tune them out somehow to be the scene. It'srespectful and

1209
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: that's part of it, you know, So you feel like, oh,

1210
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: they do really love us and respect us and want

1211
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: to be part of it, and we're happy that they're there.

1212
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: That's so sweet.

1213
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 3: Now.

1214
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: One time I remember this is when it started to escalate,

1215
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: and I remember being like, what it is happening? We

1216
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: were when we first started, we had no security. Sometimes

1217
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even have like a green room area or

1218
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: a safe area to go except our trailers, which might

1219
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: be blocks away, you know when you fill me in

1220
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: the city, right of course. And it was we would

1221
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: always shoot as we would start at five am on Monday,

1222
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: and each day would get longer and longer and longer

1223
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: till Friday. We were working until the sun came up

1224
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: because we had to stop when the sun came up

1225
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: because we were outside. Right, So Friday night we have

1226
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: like possibly a five block walk and talk, all four

1227
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: of us in the wee hours. They picked sixth Avenue

1228
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: in the village. Okay, Friday night.

1229
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, someone was playing games.

1230
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: And we have no security, and they put our chairs

1231
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: in the gutter along six right, so we're just supposed

1232
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: to sit there in our outfits eating. Yeah. At that point,

1233
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: the McDonald's French fries are there Friday night.

1234
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: We're like literally.

1235
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Like we would time it, like is it time for

1236
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: the McDonald's run. Where's the diet coke? I had my

1237
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: special diet coke, Crispy diet coke, not anymore but.

1238
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 2: A yeah.

1239
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: But we had to get through five blocks, like up

1240
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: and down the curbs. You know, we're miked, of course,

1241
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: our mics are between our legs. Don't get me started.

1242
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: But we also have to be loud. They're trying to

1243
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: boom us as well. We've got so much dialogue, you know,

1244
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah. But Michael Patrick wants

1245
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: a perfect word perfect, no mess ups, no ad libs,

1246
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: and fast. Yeah okay, you know, like old school.

1247
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1248
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: We are having some struggles. Let me tell you, it's

1249
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: a lot. So if we could get through one all

1250
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: the way, it would be amazing, right. And I remember

1251
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: at one point we're going, it's going great. Right, We're

1252
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: on cue blah blah blah blah blah. This car drives

1253
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: by and these guys are like sex and the city bitches.

1254
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: We're like get it.

1255
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, God, we were like we go.

1256
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: So then at a certain point, I remember like we

1257
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: just could. We just couldn't when people were coming and

1258
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: they're drunk. It's like the village on Friday night. So

1259
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: we went into this restaurant, you know, like the little

1260
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: opening like for when it's cold, like the door and

1261
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: then the door.

1262
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 2: We were like.

1263
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: Hiding in there, and then they came out, like what's

1264
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: going We were like, could we please hide it here?

1265
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: And then next year we had we had security and yeah,

1266
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: thank god. Okay, but most of the time now it's great.

1267
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: But I think that's because we have a greater appreciation,

1268
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, all of it now, right, we've had time away.

1269
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, understand it better, you know what I mean?

1270
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: We have We have had paparazzi get into fights with

1271
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: each other, which is never helpful.

1272
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: That.

1273
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if they're not attacking us, we're cool.

1274
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's take the photo and right.

1275
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: Right, you guys, Benny's here and I'm with you.

1276
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry and we knew.

1277
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: So we're going to stop now and we're going to

1278
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: come back. Please join us for our actual recap of

1279
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: old Dogs, New Digs, New dicksy.

1280
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 3: I was like, am I saying New Dicks?

1281
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: It's all right? We love you guys, thank you for listening.

1282
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: Come back and join us with Benito skin Out. Otherwise,

1283
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: Bennie drama many different things. We could call him multi

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00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: talent better and I will