1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast plays Calliope on the riverboat Ron. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Greg Rosal. What's up, boys, Hey Dan? Hey us little 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: little struggles getting out of gate? Yeah, I think Greg 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: and I are afraid to speak. We've started the show 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: over three times, and I don't want to be the 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: reason for a fourth. Well, I mean, we had sound 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: issues the first time. Then the conversation went a little 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: sideways very early in the show. Less is upset about it? Right, 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: it's been because sideways. I was just telling you guys, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: what a calliope. It's it's been a long it's been 14 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: a long time since we had to restart the show 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: just because we didn't think it was good. Yeah, strange, 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, we need to get you know why? 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: We need to be sharp right now though, because today's 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: episode is a special one in the never ending NFL 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: off season, an off season that will ever end. Is 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Daddy ever coming back? It's just gonna roll right in. 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: This is the Tony Romo Spectacular episode because on Tuesday, 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: the news came down that Tony Romo was gonna retire, 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: uh to take a job with CBS and and leave football, 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: And isn't that crazy? So we're gonna dig into that. Greg. 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Some people say, hey, you're little, You're good. Daylight to 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: dollars here, But we're gonna be the podcast of record 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to this topic. People are gonna look 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: back in in ten years and wonder what was Tony 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Romo's career like, and they'll listen to this podcast. I 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: like that, and they'll also know when they look back 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: on this podcast that be around. The NFL podcast is 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: not sponsored driven by hund love it what a automobile 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: anymore to that. That's the starting end of it. That's it. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: That is that's the sponsor show. And and any update 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: on Mr Flame, who was the sponsor unceremoniously dumped in 36 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: a big spot on Monday. Mike Flame I think could 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: not have handled it more gentleman like than he did. 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he basically wrote us all an email thanking 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: us for the year we should be thanking him. He 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: sent us multiple products and gifts. Hyundai yet to do 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: that for us well, the Rosenthal family could be looking 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: for a second car. My wife does not have a car, 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: which is tough sledding when you live in Los Angeles. 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I think we're I think it's off season. We've kind 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: of set so maybe step your game up. Hey, if 46 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: you want to be driven the way this podcast is driven, 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: then you better get to the local Hundai. They're they're 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: getting their money's worth and we want to restart it 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: for a fourth time. Anyway, this is the Tony Romo 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Spectacular podcast. We will break down the huge news and 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: how it affects um the entire NFL, and and we 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: look back at Romo's career in Dallas and what it 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: means for other teams, specifically one that also plays in Texas. Uh. 54 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: So we'll break the we'll break the whole thing down, 55 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: and we'll have some fun doing it as the podcast 56 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: of record on this topic. UM and UH, I feel like, maybe, guys, 57 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: this is a show. The news is so big and 58 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: otherwise there's not a ton of news out there that 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: we should focus there on Romo. But there is one 60 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: bit of pretty big, uh non Romo news that we 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: want to touch on before we really dig in uh 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: to Romo, and it is about Marshawn Lynch, the retired 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: running back who told the Raiders during a meeting at 64 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: the team facility that he uh this. According to Ian Rappaport, 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: he intends to unretire and play again. Uh. It's a 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: long process, though, Ian says, which Greg leading into that, 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: UH makes you think this isn't something that's gonna happen 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: today or tomorrow, but who knows. And Rapport also reported 69 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: on Lynch, his understanding is that the meeting with Jack 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: del Rio the Raiders coaches, the final hurdle. If if 71 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: del Rido signs off, Domino's fall. So this almost looks 72 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: like it's a it's a go problem. I think it's happening. 73 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: I think the Tony Romo situation sat out there for 74 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: so long because Tony Romo ultimately couldn't decide whether he 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: wanted to play football or not, with like whether he 76 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: wanted to fully commit. And I think that's been the 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: question with Marshawn Lynch. As people say, well he's interested, Okay, 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: make the declaration you want to play, I think him 79 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: showing up to the facility talking with del Rio, this 80 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: is it. He wants to play. Now. They just gotta 81 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: figure out there's gonna be a trader if the Seahawks 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: is gonna release him or what. Seahawks g M. John 83 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: Schneider was on seven seven ten Seattle Today and said 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: a move of Lynch to the Raiders would go in 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: a quote smooth manner because of his relationship with Raiders 86 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: GM Reggie Mackenzie. They were both in the Ted Thompson 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: front office with the Packers. Yeah, well, why why do 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: you want to prevent that from happening. You've signed Eddie Lacy, 89 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: You've got two young running backs plan him. You don't, 90 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: you don't, You're not gonna use Marshawn Lynch. The guy 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: wants to come back and play. He only wants to 92 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: play in one place. It's not gonna like so there's 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: no way to tug him back to Seattle even if 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to, and they don't. It's not like the 95 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks have a ton of leverage, it seems so this 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: all seems like it's gonna happen. Then the bigger question 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: and we got to figure out a contract. He's not 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna play under this current contract. Maybe the way Schneider talked, 99 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: maybe the Raiders are willing to give up like a 100 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: late you know, round swap or something. You know that 101 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: it's not major. Let's see, let's see is he gonna 102 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: be any good? That's the bigger question after taking a 103 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: year off and being banged up the last time we saw. 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: You could look at it from both sides of it 105 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: and come to the reasonable conclusion that, hey, he had 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: his worst year and his last year and was outplayed 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: by Thomas Rawls. He's another year and a half older. 108 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: Or you could say, hey, he's fresh. He's playing behind 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys might have a better offensive line, but 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: other than him, who does so it's an ideal fit. 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Don't bury the lead. What does it mean for Taiwan Jones? 112 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: This is the Taiwan Jones Spectacular podcast. I think it's listen. 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: Lynch he got he got in the middle of the 114 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl when he retired. Now he's completely taking over 115 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: this Romo show. It was funny because everyone at the 116 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: time was like, you know, I gotta give credit to Lynch, 117 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: Like this guy doesn't you know, he doesn't need the attention, 118 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't know press conference, he's just cool. We'll never 119 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: hear from this guy again. Meanwhile, he's been a part 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: of our lives ever since he's in the mix. I 121 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: love Marshawn Lynch, especially as a Raider, But what would 122 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: you rather watch Latavia's murder behind that line, Sean Lynch, 123 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: bring it on, I would love. I love the Raiders 124 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: being compelling and and this doesn't make them competive. Yeah, 125 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: they already were among the teams I was looking forward 126 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: to watching the most this year. This makes them even more. 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna cost more or less than 128 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: whatever Adrian Peterson ultimately signs. That's still to me made 129 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: more sense that the Raiders would go after or Peterson. 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: The Lynch thing seems a little I don't know, it 131 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: seems much more of a hit or miss proposition. But 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: I get the Oakland Ties and all that stuff. They 133 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: have two other good young running backs, not just like, okay, 134 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: we have two guys on a roster. I think Jalen 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Richard is a big time weapon, and I think DeAndre 136 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Washington is a good player. So he doesn't have to 137 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: come in and kind of just save the day. He's 138 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: just part of a group, but he does help play 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different role than those guys. 140 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: I think that's very complimentary. Backfield now, you could go 141 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: terribly too. Just like, no, I'm not. I'm just saying 142 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: everybody's got to not assume that you're gonna get the 143 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: old beast mode. And he might even you know, you know, 144 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: it's just possible be a headache. He might be a 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: problem child. We'll see what's gonna happen. It looks like 146 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: let's now now, should we move to the Tony Romo 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: Spectacular cupcak a brownie calling it a crownie. Yes. The 148 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: big news Tony Romo has chosen to retire despite interest 149 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: uh from the Houston Texans. The Dallas Cowboys star four 150 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: time Pro bowler retired from playing on Tuesday and was 151 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: officially released by the team. Romo will not go um 152 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: gently into that good night or quietly. He's not gonna 153 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: pull a Dave Letterman because he immediately now segs to 154 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: a new job with CBS, where he will be working 155 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: with Jim Nance is the number one team uh for 156 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: CBS calling games, which is a big deal and it's 157 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: uh good news for Romo and very bad news for 158 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: Phil Simms, who's who Romo replaces. Romo had a conference 159 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: call after all this news broke on Tuesday and here's 160 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: what he had to say. You know, I gotta go 161 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: with tactics just like football, and see we're on good 162 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: and see we're on not one thing. I've always felt like, 163 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: if there's a strength of mine, it's just my ability 164 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: to learn. If I'm not very good right away, I 165 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: hope it doesn't take too long. And if I'm not, 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I can promise you I'll be spending you know, twenty 167 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: hours a day trying to figure it out, and I'll 168 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: be analyzing all the time. And so you know, that's 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: the approach I'm gonna take, and I think that gives 170 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: me the best chance to succeed. And Romo was also 171 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: asked about whether this is it. Is he going to 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: absolutely retire? Is he a hundred percent out? He did 173 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: leave the door a little bit open. You know, I 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: wish I could tell you unequivocally a hundred percent for 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: the rest of my life, I'll never play any sports 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: at all, you know, But I just, uh, I don't 177 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: envision coming out. I'm committed to CBS. I'm gonna be 178 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: there for good. So I think I'm gonna get some calls. 179 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure I will. Greg you said on Monday Show, 180 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: you thought the news that that came out Monday that 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were opening up the doors to trade talks 182 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: was a sign Romo was playing obviously wrong there, first 183 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: time anyone's been wrong on the show. We were overdue. 184 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: I think we saw what happened though, because CBS courted Romo, 185 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: made him feel like give him an offer he can't 186 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: refuse as their number one guy in a dynasty. There's 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: only been five guys basically since football was born on 188 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: television that have done this position, and the Broncos and 189 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Texans this was their last ditch effort to prove to 190 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: Tony Romo they wanted him, and I think Jerry Jones 191 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: put that out there on purpose to say, Hey, CBS 192 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: is putting heat on you to make a decision. Why 193 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: don't we release this to see if anyone gives you 194 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: a reason to play football this year, gives you a 195 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: reason to turn down CBS. And their answer was there's 196 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: no reason to turn down CBS, which on some level 197 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: is strange because the Texans were interested in him if 198 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: he was released, and that's why, ultimately, I think the 199 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Texans played this the right way that if Tony Romo 200 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: wasn't committed enough to playing in two thousand and seventeen, 201 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: that he was that much on the fence that he 202 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: sort of didn't want to commit to going and visiting 203 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: them and you know, getting ah, you know, m R 204 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: or anything. You're going through this whole process of like 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: just really me, I want to get a job. I 206 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: just want to play football. That he had to be 207 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: sort of wind to that he was never totally in it. Well, 208 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: there's some irony here because the Texas and Broncos wanted 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Romo to be committed, and Romo wanted the Texas and 210 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Broncos to be committed enough to trade for him to 211 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: know that he wasn't going to embarrass himself by hitting 212 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the open market, and nobody wanted him. Well, when you've 213 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: come as far as he has, you're an undrafted player 214 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: that has he's a fringe Hall of Fame candidates. Some 215 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: believe so, some don't. You want to be wanted, you 216 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: want to be courted, You don't want to go into 217 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: the open market. You listen, the way his career ended 218 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: is unceremonious. It's not the way you want to go 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: out as a quarterback. You were pushed aside by a 220 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: rookie and now you get into potentially a scenario where 221 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: you could have teams coming after you. A couple of 222 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: months ago, we're writing Tony Romo landing spots and they 223 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: were six seven teams deep because there was a belief, 224 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Why would you not go after Tony Romo? And then 225 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: the market wasn't there in the end, and you didn't 226 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: play the situation the right way. If Tom Savage is 227 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: your opening day starter, I'm sorry, but you didn't well, 228 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: just this particular, the results are disastrous, sure, but played 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: it the wrong way. You could have tried to convince him, 230 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, you're right, like it would have 231 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: been worth taking the chance. It just sounds like maybe 232 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: that wouldn't have been enough anyways, that he if he 233 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: wanted to play football, he would play football. He has 234 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: medical people telling him things he has not been able 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: to play more than two or things, but he multiple 236 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: times during that press conference to emphasize, I can still play. 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: I haven't been this healthy and three or four years. 238 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: If doctors are telling him that, he doesn't believe it. 239 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: You could tell that he wanted to make it clear 240 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: to everyone that physically he can still do and he 241 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: caught and he said it. He said it during that 242 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: press conference last November, that he still had the burning 243 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: desire to play. We saw it in the last game 244 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: of the regular season that he was still functional passer 245 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: and that one drive let him let him to a touchdown. 246 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if how much is his pride was hurt here, 247 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: And getting back to the original point, we were talking 248 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: about that a few years back. And I know Tony Romo, 249 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: even though he is a boarderline Hall of Fame candidate, 250 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: is not Peyton Manning. But when Peyton Manning was on 251 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: the open market, you had the entire league clamoring for 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: a shot at him, and it just wasn't the case here. 253 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: There was there was no Romo sweepstakes. The Broncos did 254 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: everything but basically called a press conference and say, hey, 255 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, only if it really works out, are we 256 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: even interested. We like our guys, And it became a 257 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Texans or Bus scenario, and maybe he didn't love that. 258 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't love the idea that the Cowboys and 259 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: Texans are in the same state. He didn't want to 260 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: get involved in selling his Cowboys reputation or his legacy. 261 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's to me, to me is a big 262 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: part of it. And I can't question his desire to 263 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: want to play potentially when there are reports out there 264 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: that if the Cowboys lost Dak Prescott early in the year, 265 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: that there would be an arrangement potentially where CBS would 266 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: let him get back on the field or for another team. 267 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to just be the Cowboys, right, 268 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: There's another layer here. It's not just that the Texans 269 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: and Broncos weren't willing to trade for him. It's that 270 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: if they weren't committed to him enough to do that, 271 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: was it worth him? Was it worth it to him 272 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: to leave the Cowboys and play in a different uniform. 273 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: He talked about his legacy looking back when he's eighty 274 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: years old and when he thinks about football, he wants 275 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: to envision himself in the Cowboys uniform as a career 276 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: long Dallas Cowboy. And if you're not willing to trade 277 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: for him, he's not willing to part with that part 278 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: of his legacy. Well, and if CBS wasn't involved, maybe 279 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: none of this happens. I mean, maybe he just sucks 280 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: it up and plays the CBS and just the level 281 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: of job that he's getting, the level of opportunity the 282 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: level of pursuit. So it's those two things together. If 283 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: there was, if if he was just getting kind of 284 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: lukewarm interest in broadcasting, maybe maybe he would be more 285 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: willing to just be like, all right, release me. I'm 286 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna just try to play, you know, I mean with 287 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: the broadcasting side, and we'll get more into that. But 288 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: you talk about legacy, Yes, we remember him always as 289 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys quarterback. But someone that's fifteen sixteen years 290 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: old right now, that's just getting into football. They know 291 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman as Fox's Troy Aikman. They knew Pat summer 292 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: All as Pat summer All from television, and John Madden, 293 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: not the coach, but the broadcaster. I mean, he's got 294 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: a chance to go twenty thirty plus years and create 295 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: an entirely new career and identity. The most surprising part 296 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: about Tuesday was that his retirement was on a conference 297 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: call with Sean McMann. It's just this muffled, boring like 298 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: he he just sounded, you know, very you know, quiet, 299 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: lack of dasical thing. He's not up there on you know, 300 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: with the star behind him and Jerry Jones and like 301 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: all they all he got was Jason Garrett's like totally 302 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: milk toast forgettable statement in a team press release. It's 303 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: a very strange ente for such a great quarterback with 304 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: the led screens outside the Cowboys facility with the number nine. 305 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: So they did, they did check your box. I don't 306 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: blaze salt to the word milk toast. There's a great 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: there's a good chance he chose that. I have no idea. 308 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: It's just strange. Can you imagine Philip Rivers, you know, 309 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: retiring to you know, Fox or something and that there's 310 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: no big deal in San Diego. I mean, this is 311 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: one of the five to seven best quarterbacks of his air. 312 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: He's a big time Does that hint at the fact that, 313 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it could have been a little cleaner 314 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: and his split with the Cowboys that maybe it isn't 315 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: quite as rosy as everyone wants to put out there. Well, 316 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Jane s Later of the NFL Network reported that there 317 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: was He was hurt, Tony Romo was hurt by how 318 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing wrapped up in Dallas. So maybe that 319 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: ties into like he's ready and maybe when he gave 320 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: his press conference over member, that was his goodbye press conference, 321 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: and now he is looking to move on with he's 322 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: with his new girlfriend, his new lady now his CBS 323 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: lady lover. But that's open network, that's all true. But 324 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: I think we found out that Jerry Jones was did 325 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: have Tony Romo's best and yes, and was being protective 326 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: of him and was doing him favors, but not putting 327 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: him on the market when there it would be like 328 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: putting Adrian Peterson on the market. Yeah, it just as 329 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: strange because you go back to the first hours of 330 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: free agency where Romo put out the farewell to the Cowboys, 331 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: maybe thinking that something else would happen to me Leroo 332 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: wanting something else to happen, and it didn't. It was protracted. 333 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: I don't think he he obviously didn't know what the 334 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: outcome was gonna be. I mean, Brandon Weeden said he 335 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: was texting with Roma last week and he thought Romo 336 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: wanted to play last week. So I don't think he 337 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: made this decision until Monday, and it probably think CBS 338 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: forced him to make the decision. Yeah, and he and 339 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: that's why Jerry put out that press release saying if 340 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: you want to trade for him, come get him, and 341 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: everybody assumed it was Jerry trying to wrangle a draft 342 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: pick out of him, but it was really Jerry saying, hey, look, Tony, 343 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: these teams don't want you. If you want that CBS job, 344 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: you should take it. This was floating behind the scenes 345 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: too that uh Slater said it on on air yesterday. 346 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: This is something that I had heard around this building 347 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: as well, that it was a very real chance that 348 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Romo was going to retire. So this was always in 349 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: play as an option. And I think when CBS brought 350 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: the full court press, and like, you guys want to 351 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit, because that is if 352 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: you work in sports, and that's a seismic decision to 353 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: take a guy with with zero experience and now all 354 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: of a sudden he is becoming the number one UM 355 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: color guy. And we were talking about it downstairs, Mark 356 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: that once upon a time, uh, the Cowboys, they wanted 357 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: Tony Romo to be the next Troy Aikman. But now 358 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: it's CBS that wants Tony Romo to be the next 359 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman and hoping they get a twenty plus year 360 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: run out of him. What a move, And and poor 361 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Phil Simms who gets caught what a horrible situation for 362 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Phil Simms, who it's one thing to lose your job, 363 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: but when your job losing your job is tied into 364 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: a massive NFL story, it becomes even a bigger a 365 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: bigger deal than it ordinarily would be. Absolutely, And I 366 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: like two quick things, and we were talking about this, 367 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: you know downstairs yesterday too that I name happy for 368 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: Tony Romo when you when you pick a former player 369 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: to become a broadcaster. It's funny because Charles Davis from 370 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: NFL Network talked for the fact that for years he 371 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: was buried on like the six and seven team, that 372 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: he cut his teeth, that he really learned how to 373 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: become a better broadcaster, but not doing Monday night football, 374 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: by doing smaller broadcast college games. And they're taking a 375 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: swing the same way that that Phil Simms had that 376 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: happened to him too. We're gonna put you high up 377 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: early and hope that it floats. And it's funny that 378 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: Simms exits that there's two things. One the assumption that 379 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: Romo is just going to be marvel at the marvelous 380 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: at this out of the gate. It is not an 381 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: easy job. And and a lot of people yesterday were 382 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: destroying Phil Simms on Twitter. How that Romo did one 383 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: good thing here, said, he got Phil Simms off broadcasting, 384 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and we're not I don't think we're the biggest phil 385 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: Simms fans in the country ourselves. I get it, but 386 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: it's just it was over the top. But I talked 387 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: to Phil Simms for that calling the game piece last year, 388 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: and the one thing that it came away with, well, listen, 389 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: it's like the last notable thing I wrote at this company. 390 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: So he honestly, he talked about how he spent so 391 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: many hours during the week working hard for that job, 392 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: watching tape. He put the work in you. It is 393 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: not an easy job. You have to literally spend just 394 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: as much time watching film as you would as a player. Yeah, 395 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: I keep hammering Home and the Boomers Sciasin point because 396 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: there's so many similarities. And he's the one who blazed 397 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: this trail. He created the blueprint for retiring when you 398 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: still have something left in the tank and getting the 399 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: most plumb broadcasting opportunity available to anyone that year. And 400 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: he said a couple of years ago with The Sports 401 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Business Journal, I wish I got that job today as 402 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: opposed to because it takes time to understand the mechanics 403 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: of television, and he said something similar to Peter King 404 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, I wish I knew then what I know now. 405 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: It look at yourselves like we're all better writers now 406 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: than we were when we first started. It takes time 407 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: to be good at Stiki Barber is another notable example 408 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: of someone that traded in a couple more years at 409 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the top of his game to to take the job 410 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: when it was there and then did not work out 411 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: at all. But do Boomer and Tiki Barber have in 412 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: common with Tony Romo? Everybody in the media was absolutely 413 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: convinced that these guys personalities would shine through and automatically 414 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: make them immediate smash hits as broadcast or whatever. Whenever 415 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: that happened to Boomers Sisson a completely different time than 416 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: right now now, when everyone is watching Monday night football, 417 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: Sunday night football, Thursday night. If the analyst does not 418 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: nail it right away, if the smallest gaff occurs, Twitter explodes, 419 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: the media colonists go nuts on this guy. He's going 420 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: to be so highly exposed to analyze. Yeah, he's the 421 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: same way he was as a player when he was 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: maybe unfairly scrutinized during his career. Same thing's gonna happen 423 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: in the booth. But at least when he was a player, 424 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: he was doing what came naturally to him, and uh, 425 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: he was able to to use his his abilities on 426 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: the field. This is he's gonna be a total neophyight. Well, 427 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: the one thing he doesn't have in common with Boomer 428 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: and Tiki is he's likable, or he's more likable, I 429 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: mean are I mean, I guess we'll find out, but 430 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: and I guess you'd never know that a percent going in. 431 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: Although I don't think Tiki Barber even during his playing careers, 432 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: I think at this point in in their situations, everybody 433 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: viewed Boomer and Tiki as just as likable as Tony 434 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: Romo and more breathless words raised it on Boomer size 435 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: and have been was a scene as I think they gave. 436 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: They put him on Good Morning America, Greg, not even 437 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: it was we're gonna put you in front of America, 438 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: not even a station. But it wasn't. It wasn't. I 439 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it was because he was likable. I 440 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: think because he had a massive pr campaign. This is 441 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: a guy who dominated the New York Tabloids in the 442 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: front page of the paper for being unlikable, for his 443 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: teammates hated him. That was a big part of his 444 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 1: career was Michael Strahan and him getting after I just 445 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: mean that the listening to Tony Romo in terms of 446 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: how much like he is a likable guy, and listening 447 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: to how seriously he clearly is going to take it 448 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: from step one that this isn't rocket science. You know, 449 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: we we've put Tony Kornheiser in national spots like Joe 450 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: Tisman had this job for years and years and years 451 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: likable one fifth of the job. Yeah, your point is 452 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: taken that the Tiki and Boomer probably had a little 453 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: more ego than Tony Romo, who seems to be is 454 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: down to earth. There's any million dollar quarterback could possibly be. 455 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's move on to the next and 456 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: poor Phil. I don't even know where Phil lands. You have? 457 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: You have? Uh? What do they? I always get this wrong. 458 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: The bird and the beak, The beard and the beard 459 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: and the bird. The beard and the bird, by the way, 460 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: they should be number one Eagles are fascinating. He's a 461 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 1: fascinating play by play guy. Really, I love fascinating. I 462 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: think he honestly should be number one. Somewhere. There's an 463 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: entire bar in Santa Monica which knows exactly how much 464 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler loves. He's a total pro. I like that team, 465 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna like drop Phil down to the 466 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: third or fourth string. I'm thinking, so maybe this is 467 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: it for Phil. I will say this, what's the same 468 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: version of what Tony Romo did as a quarterback? You 469 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: may say enough, I don't want to kick the guy 470 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: when he's down, But the Nance Sims team never did 471 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: anything for me. I think Buck and Aikman or a 472 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: far superior team, and and don't get me started in Collinsworth, Uh, 473 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: and now Michael's are the best of them all. Then 474 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: you got Tariko, who does a great job. They it 475 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: was it was the right time, I think, to spruce 476 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: it up, and they're kind of swinging for the fences. 477 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: There are worst game analysts and Phil Simms. I think 478 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: it's fair to critique him. You don't have to treat 479 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: him like a pinata. Though, Yeah, you always felt like 480 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: there was a little too much of like, are we 481 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: watching the Masters? Are we watching uh? The NFL? With 482 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Nance and that's more nance maybe than Sims, but just 483 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of maybe. I mean, but it was kind of 484 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: a sleepy I can imagine, you know, grandparents enjoying this broadcast. 485 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: So let's have some guy. Let's have someone who I 486 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: love the notion of someone that was just in the game, 487 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: was gonna know these players. I know it's the a 488 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: f C for the most part, but he'll be on 489 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: some NFC games too when they're the road team, like 490 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: a little all fresh blood. And you know, let's talk 491 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: winners and losers of this deal, and we've already touched 492 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: on a couple of Phil Simms notable and los. Her Sorry, 493 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: but it really sounded like because CBS and Pro Football 494 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: tuck me at this point, they didn't have a plan 495 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: for him publicly, which is a pretty strong indication that 496 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: there probably is no plan for him. But also they're 497 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: just gonna work out. He's been with him for nearly 498 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: two decades, and that's how you say goodbye to someone. 499 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a rough situation. He got swept up 500 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: in a tidal way with this. But uh, let's focus 501 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: a little bit now on the the Texans, who, um 502 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: other than Phil Simms are obviously uh the big, big 503 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: loser here because West it seemed like in their decision 504 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: to cut ties with Brock Oswiler and basically leave nobody 505 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: but Tom Savage as the presumptive Week one started, it 506 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: looked like they had cleared the deck for Romo and 507 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: now he's not there. Now what that That's a tough 508 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: situation they have. They have their own starter kit for 509 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: the Browns, for the Browns jersey with all the quarterback 510 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: names on it. Yes, Fitzpatrick, Keenum, Mallett, Hoyer, Yates, Weed 511 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 1: and Oswa Savage. I mean, it's the difference as they 512 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: win about nine games a year's quarterbacks of old. I 513 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: mean Bill O'Brien is the fun house mirror version of 514 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher. He goes nine and seven every year with 515 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: bad quarterback. It's this team is It's unbelievable how reactive 516 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: they are at that position instead of proactive. You have 517 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: the hard knocks thing, which we keep going back to. 518 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: Both those kids can play. The second part of that 519 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: whole diet tribe was and if they get the chance to, 520 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 1: they're gonna show everyone. Bill O'Brien gave Brian Horrier three 521 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: quarters of the season over for that chance so they 522 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: go out, Howyer's a failure. They overpay for us while 523 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: er without ever meeting him, and now because they did that, 524 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: they overcorrect and say we can't overpay for Romo or 525 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: we can't trade for imperiod because we now we're now 526 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: we're passive instead of aggressive, and you're stuck with Tom Savage, 527 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: a guy who is every bit is injury prone as 528 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, just ten years younger. Well, I don't think 529 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: that's fair with Savage because you know, it's been a 530 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: couple of minor injuries. I think the Texans hasn't. It's 531 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: been a couple of injuries a couple of times he played. 532 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: I think Tony Romo's injury situation is so significant, and 533 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: it's been four straight times he's been on the field 534 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: that he's gotten hurt. That caution from any of the team. 535 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: I can't kill them for that, because we would we 536 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: would be making fun of them, or maybe we wouldn't 537 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: be making fun of them. But the odds were telling 538 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: you that he was just gonna get hurt again. I mean, 539 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: his his injury history is beyond just like it happened 540 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: a few times. It happened in two thousand fourteen it happened. 541 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Two fifty happened too, Then sixty it happened a couple 542 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: of times in two thousand fifty like it was happening. 543 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: I agree, But here I don't mind them not branding 544 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: over backwards. The flip side of that is John Elway 545 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: going after Peyton Manning when he was coming off a 546 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: neck injury where all of us were wondering if he'd 547 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: even be able to throw the same way. It's like you, 548 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: you can't kill the Texans if after they they like it. 549 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: When I'm saying, when they admit their own mistake though 550 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: with the brock Osweiler moving on from brock Osweader, had 551 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: they and going on and got going after Romo, you 552 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: have to say you did everything you could in one 553 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: off season to correct the position. And now I can't 554 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: give them credit for going halfway and now smiling at 555 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: us and telling us that Tom Savage is a perfectly 556 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: to find answer under center, don't I don't think I 557 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: think they're us that they have to that. Now they 558 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: have to say they have to look toward the draft, 559 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: and then you look at the I can't let all 560 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the way off the hook here. I thought both it 561 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: was a lack of onions on both Denver and Houston side. 562 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: They're both a quarterback away from computing invested. They invested 563 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: a first round pick and pacton Lynch and Trevor Simeon 564 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: can play, but the Savage can play, but Simeon actually can. 565 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,239 Speaker 1: The Texans invested in brock Oswilder, and they knew they 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: had to get out of there and try to get 567 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: You're trying to win a Super Bowl here. I'm just 568 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: saying like you had an opportunity if you played aggressively, 569 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: and of course it's a roll of the dice. You 570 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: just talked about it, Greg. To have Tony Romo out 571 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: front with two super Bowl quality defenses in both Houston 572 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: and Denver, and I thought both of these teams should 573 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: have been more aggressive. Now that John Mike Cliss was 574 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: on NFL Network on Tuesday and had some good points 575 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: to John, Elway was intrigued with the idea of Tony 576 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Romo if he was singlemindedly obsessed with winning the Super Bowl, 577 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: not if he had one foot in CBS, not if 578 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: he was like, uh, I kind of want to play 579 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, not the Broncos. Not if he was 580 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: I'd rather be closer to Texas than Denver. There's also 581 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: but so I agree with that Mavor Simeon and Paxton list. 582 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: Texans have Tom Savage and no Super Bowls and the 583 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: history of bad decision. John Elway has more rope here 584 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: and we have more reasons to trust and well, and 585 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: he has two good options I think at quarterback, I 586 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: think options. So I hear you on that, But that 587 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: same reasoning to me makes sense for maybe why the 588 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: Rick Smith in the Texas in this particular case didn't 589 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: go after him. Now, I think Rick Smith is totally different. 590 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I think Rick Smith is a loser here because of 591 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: what you just said. His history of not drafting a 592 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: quarterback like this points it out. This is gonna be 593 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: his wealth draft with the Houston Texans. He has yet 594 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback in the first three rounds. Ever, 595 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: that is absolutely insane. Step. I mean, the Patriots have 596 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: taken two in the first three rounds the last couple 597 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: of years, and then in the Texans haven't even taken 598 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: a swing in it with when they've at their best, 599 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: they had a good couple of seasons at a match up. 600 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: It's absolutely it's it's been eleven years this will be 601 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: his twelfth draft. He has been there since oh six, 602 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: So you can't say that in in eleven straight years, 603 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: everyone took your guy right before you wanted him. This 604 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: is a philosophical choice that you would rather build stronger 605 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: roster at other other positions, which we know by now 606 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: simply doesn't work a hundred times. And yet he's still there. 607 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: I when you told me that he's been there that long, 608 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I had no idea. You know, it's remarkable. We were 609 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: talking about the Texans had the brown starting kit, how 610 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: many gms of the Browns had since two thousand six, right, 611 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: and that I'm not saying they're the way they do 612 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: it is the way to do it. For one one 613 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: team to have seventeen firings and one to have zero, 614 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: they're both wrong. Well, they've always stayed relevant, and I 615 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: think if if Rick Smith should get a credit for 616 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: anything that's hiring head coaches, I think ultimately he's picked 617 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: two pretty good head coaches in in Gary Kubiak and 618 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien that maybe look made the roster look a 619 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: little better than it really was. Rick Smith's careers essentially 620 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: as long as Tony Romo's active career true. Yeah, good 621 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: points both came up. It's been a long time. Mark. 622 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: You wrote the Winners and Losers Banger Banger NFL dot com. 623 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: You got on the bang train and you want to 624 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: share another winner. I will. That's that's probably where I 625 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,239 Speaker 1: would want that experience to be coming from. But uh, 626 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: how about this, I mean we touched on it briefly, 627 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: but this year's quarterback prospects, because I think that you 628 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: now are going to see a rush on quarterbacks potentially 629 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: earlier than people thought, because the Texans are a lock 630 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: at I think to take a quarterback or to move 631 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: up to Daniel Jeremiah, who at least when he does 632 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: his mock draft is talking to other people he has 633 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks going in the first round until the Texans. 634 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I would that would surprise me. I think that we're 635 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: gonna get more early because this is just what teams 636 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: have done every single year. But he is absolutely right 637 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: that the Texans now have no wiggle room. You can't 638 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: wait till the whatever the fifty ninth pick they have, 639 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: I think, and then the eighty nine. You cannot wait 640 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: that long at this point except you're dealing with Rick Smith, 641 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: so we know what they're gonna do. They're not gonna 642 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: take any quarter Maybe they won't take anyone, but counterpoint, 643 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: they were going to take a quarterback either way, possibly 644 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: because they if you were get in bed with Romo, 645 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: you absolutely know you need to have a plan B 646 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: still or a future. And I wouldn't be surprised if 647 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: even if they got Romo, they take a guy in 648 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: the first or second round, and then when you look 649 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: at any other team in the league Romo, whatever happened 650 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: in Romo didn't really affect anybody else because nobody else 651 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: was interes I agree with that, except that I think 652 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: plan I think it's fair to have viewed Tom Savage 653 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: as an okay Plan B. If you had gone out 654 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: and gotten Tony Romo, you don't need to get another rookie. 655 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: On top of that soup, you know that they're in 656 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: the spot you don't want to be in, which is 657 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: everyone knows what you have to do and you have 658 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: to take that position. Just that of desperation. Yeah again, 659 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: pretend you like one of these guys more than you 660 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: actually do about another loser. Mark off your list. So 661 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: many choices, Well we have, we've uh, well how about 662 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: this the prime time football schedule is one that I 663 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: picked because I realized they haven't completely locked it in. 664 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: But I think the Texans would have been an a 665 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: f C that is lacking a lot of compelling teams. 666 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: There isn't a lot beyond the Patriots and the Steelers 667 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: and some of the a f C West teams that 668 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: you get the a f C South with the Texans 669 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: and Tony Romo on a bunch of prime time games 670 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: early in the year. Last year's early primetime schedule was 671 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: a mess. This would have spiced it up. You have 672 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: to watch those games. I don't care where you live, 673 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you have to watch the Texans. Now you run from 674 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: the Texans, you don't need to watch them at all. 675 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: So remember the Bengals Texans game in Week sixteen, unbelievable right, 676 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: one of the most boring games of the season, featuring 677 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: and it decided the Titans and Texans. If we if 678 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: we want to like look at things with way, how 679 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: it might actually have turned out. If the Texans got 680 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Romo and then he got hurt by week six it 681 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: would just be the Texans getting flexed out of like 682 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: seven Sunday night games. But it probably if you break 683 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: it down, what it will actually mean instead of the 684 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: Texans being on Sunday Night Football two to three times 685 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: and being on Monday Night Football once and being on 686 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football once, we'll probably see the Texans Thursday 687 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: night for sure, and then maybe a Monday night game 688 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe if you're a Texas then you're dying 689 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: right now because you were close. If you and if 690 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: you believe in Tony Romo, here as a real great 691 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: option because you know, the rest of the team is 692 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: pretty good and offenses in better shape I think now 693 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: than it has been, and if you had Romo in there, 694 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: there was real reason to hope you could contend in 695 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: the a f C. Now you're left kind of scrambling, 696 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: maybe trying to talk yourself into things that you don't 697 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: believe in. Um, all right, west Mar, because that your 698 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: big takeaway. By the way, we're gonna second to big time. 699 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: We're doing some winners and losers. Still, we're still doing 700 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: winners and losers. No, I have a separate Romo takeaway. 701 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay, good. I just want to be 702 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: on the same page anymore, winner and loser. The Tony 703 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: Tony Romo redemption story. Mark talked about kind of a 704 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: sliding door situation here where what would have happened if 705 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: he had taken the Broncos or the Texans that roster spot, 706 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: and both of those teams he could have gone further 707 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and he's ever gone before. And if 708 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: things sync up super Bowl appearance, who knows well that 709 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: that that was gonna be my losers. I mean, Tony 710 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Romo's the ultimate loser in this unfortunate I mean Antonio Ramiro. 711 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: Romo came into the league six I mean he was. 712 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: He was one of the most exciting players in the league, 713 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: one of my one of a lot of people's favorite 714 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: players to watch. The last time he played in the NFL, 715 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: the only time he played a full season with this 716 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line. He led the league in completion percentage, 717 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: in qb R, in quarterback rating, in yards per tempt, 718 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: in game winning drives. He was third in the m 719 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: v p UH race. He had his best season, I 720 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: would argue, certainly one of his best seasons of his 721 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: entire career. And that was it. That was his last season. 722 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: Think of what he's been robbed over, not just like 723 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: the redemption story with the Broncos, which I agree that 724 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: could have been really cool like the last two years 725 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: with this Cowboys team. I mean Doc was great last year. 726 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: I would have taken Tony Romo last year if he 727 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: was healthy over what where Doc was, Like he should 728 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: have been finally winning those playoff games with the Cowboys. 729 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: Had a totally different end to his career. Piled up 730 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: some numbers and then I do think he's a Hall 731 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: of Fame type of guy. And he and he got 732 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: robbed by all that because of all these back and 733 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: how many super bowls does he have if he in 734 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: two thousand six just completely changed his identity to Ramiro 735 00:36:52,880 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: one word, Yeah, probably seven super Bowls to football appearances. 736 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: By the way, great counterpoint, big winner Tony Romo, because Romo, 737 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: let's say he goes to Houston, Dak Prescott. He's definitely 738 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: a winner. He well, he was already winning. Maybe he 739 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: won that battle if they were seven and nine, like 740 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: this might be Tony Romo's job, and he just to 741 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 1: know he's a big winner. He's the new Cowboys quarterback. 742 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: But Tony Roman was a winner too, if you want 743 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: want to look at it a different way, which is 744 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: he doesn't continue the charade that his body is still 745 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: able to play football, which means he doesn't have to 746 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: sign with another team, put on a uh like Joe 747 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: name with the with the Rams uniform and then get 748 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: the crap kicked out of him again and get peeled 749 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: off the turf and then end on on that note. Instead, 750 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: he gets to leave with his health, which is so 751 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: he said, he feels great, his body's everything's good, and 752 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: that's good to hear because he's taken a beating and 753 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: he's got his next a new career completely set up. 754 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: You could not ask for a better if you want 755 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: to stay in the public eye and you want to 756 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: stay in football and you don't want to go into coaching, 757 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: there's no better job than the top color gig for 758 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: one of the agent networks. And the Cowboy's exit was 759 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, upsetting. I'm shut to him and he'll live 760 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: with regrets over it. But also from a legacy standpoint, 761 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: he got to do that press conference, which maybe there 762 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: will be a movie one day where that's worked into 763 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: it and that and he was showered with praise over that. 764 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: That's a good point and to leap kind of leapfrog 765 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: off a year point um Greg that was a great 766 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: lament for Tony Romo and what could have been and Tonio. 767 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: But there is a movie to be made here, and 768 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: it's not quite Kurt Warner, who has the best story 769 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: of any athlete in the twenty century, just about. But 770 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent who comes into America's team, has 771 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: a great ten year run, gets this cushy TV gig 772 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: and could be doing it for twenty or thirty years. 773 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there isn't made for TV movie here. Whether 774 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: he's a winner or a loser, like the Romo that 775 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 1: wakes up at three in the morning and is either 776 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: contemplating regret or thinking about all the stuff that's ahead. 777 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: That's the winner or a loser. He knows whether he 778 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: won or lost. Winner Dak not for the reason you'd say, 779 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: But in your article you talk about the Cowboys quarterbacks 780 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: Don Meredith, Roger Staalbuck, Troy Eggman, Tony Romo all retire 781 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: early due to injuries and get cushy broadcasting gigs. If 782 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: you're the quarterback for America, you're gonna have a cushy 783 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: broadcasting gig. You can maybe he can do women's college basketball, 784 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: big time fan. I don't know if you guys that 785 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: doesn't feel I guess you guys him gig. But I 786 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: guess you guys didn't watch the end of the Mississippi 787 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: State game. Doc was going wild like the camera was 788 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: on him a little too much. Did they win the title? 789 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: By the way, they did not win. How about Jerry 790 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: Jones as a winner too, I mean, he keeps getting this. 791 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: Not only did this situation work out perfectly, and he 792 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: has Tony Romo singing his praises about what a great 793 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: boss he is, but he didn't have to go watch 794 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: Tony Romill play for another team. And he has the 795 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys brand. I think Boumani Jones uh was the first 796 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: one and I saw point this out. He's got the 797 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys brand on every national game like the Cowboys are 798 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: just this is the Cowboys. Is NFL back to the 799 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl, and that is like going on forever. That's 800 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: why the next twenty years, that's another reason why he's 801 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: a winner. You stumble onto Dak Prescott, and if ever 802 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: a team stumbled onto a guy they tried to trade 803 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: for Paxton Lynch, they tried to trade for Connor Cook, 804 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: ended up taking Dak Prescott, and now you've got the 805 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: same competitive advantage that Seahawks had when Russell Wilson was 806 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: on a really minor rookie contract. And you've got half 807 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: your half, your offense is all pro and you have 808 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: the chance for stability at quarterback. Not unlike going from 809 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers, from Peyton Manning to Andrew 810 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: Luck not saying that these are all equivalent of those players, 811 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: but when you have stability for thirty years at that position, 812 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: we know Dan what happens when you don't. Yeah, And 813 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: that's that's the last piece of the cow Everything looks 814 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: great for the Dallas Cowboys, but they got to figure 815 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: out where to get over the hump. Now. Then with 816 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: this new core and Tony Romo in the past, let's 817 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: say it's been twenty years since they made the Super Bowl. 818 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: That's the last piece for Jarra in the uh in 819 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: the in the twilight of his tenure with the Cowboys. 820 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: They gotta get over the hump. Won't be with Tony Romo. 821 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: One big takeaway Mark Sessler before we move on, Well, 822 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: I think I wanted to look back and kind of 823 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: remember when my idea of Tony Romo pivoted entirely. I 824 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: I never liked the way that he was this eternal 825 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: scapegoat for everything that happened with the playoff loss against 826 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: Seattle and a lot of other big games where he crumbled. 827 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 1: But for me, I'll never forget being in Santa Monica 828 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: at a bar watching Week two two thousand eleven when 829 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 1: he went up against the forty Niners took him down 830 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: in overtime with a punctured lung a broken Ribby was 831 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 1: out for most of the third quarter, came back in 832 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: the fourth and into overtime, completed twelve of fifteen passes 833 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: through a seventy seven yard completion to Jesse Holly at 834 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: the end that game winning field goal. And it here's 835 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: the thing. Finally, after that game, people started to They 836 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: started to catch up with the fact that Tony Romo 837 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: cared about football as much as he people should have 838 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: realized he did, and that he was incredibly tough. He 839 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: went on right. He played the next week against the 840 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: red Skins and didn't miss a start the yes the 841 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: rest of the year. I injuries swept away the later 842 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: part of his career, but the guy absolutely cared about 843 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: being the Cowboys quarterback, which is in contrast to some 844 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: of the stuff that happened with Jessica Simpson and the 845 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: vacations and all that business early on where it was 846 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: more of a soap opera. There was an extended period 847 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: people now completely forget this, but where he was a 848 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: durable starting quarterback and you could count on him. It 849 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: was just near the end where the body really started 850 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 1: to break down. Nice big takeaway, Mark, It was big West. 851 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: It's a shame for football fans that Tony Romo won't 852 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: be playing. He will not be a starter in week 853 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: one as it as it seems now, Jimmy Garoppolo will 854 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: not be a starter in week one. Jake Cutler Colin 855 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: Kaepernick will not be starters in Week one. So four 856 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: of the top thirty quarterbacks on this planet will not 857 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: be starting in week one, while the likes of Josh McCown, 858 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: Coding Kessler, Tom Savage, Brian Hoyer, Jared Goff, and Mike 859 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: Glennon will be starting in week one. Uh are you 860 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: throw Glennon in there? Teams should be more NFL teams 861 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: should be more bull first of all, and second of all, 862 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,959 Speaker 1: watching bad football stinks. And I don't want to see 863 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: these guys starting in week one when there are better 864 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: options you're gonna get some. You're gonna get plenty of 865 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,399 Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks Wests. No, we're running from it. I love 866 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: that this offseason has turned UH West into missing Jake 867 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: Cutler didn't see that company. That's why you gotta keep 868 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. Always surprises over the year. Look, 869 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler has been my I don't know, He's been 870 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: a tomato can to me on this podcast. I've been 871 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: kicking him up and down the street for four years. 872 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: But nothing bothers me more than NFL teams just settling 873 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: for mediocrity because it's comfortable. You don't see Bill Belichick 874 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: doing that. You don't see John Elway doing that. You've 875 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: given up on Jared Goff, by the way, you can't 876 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: be a top thirty quarterback. I mean, alright, but in 877 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: week one, I don't know. Maybe by the end of 878 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 1: the year, I won't I'll be singing I haven't given 879 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: up on it, and I do. It took like four years, 880 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 1: but it took Josh McCown finally signing with the Jets. 881 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Fore you get up to get up from the town bandwagon. Look, 882 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: he's already seven, he can barely walk. Something serious had 883 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: to happen, and it was going to the your hated 884 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: all right, My big takeaway, uh is we won't have 885 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: Tony Romana kick around anymore. I don't think our group 886 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: by any stretch was part of this. But for years 887 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: and years and years and years, Romo was the guy 888 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: that people love to hate and unfairly put things on 889 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: and call a choke artist and all other things. Uh. 890 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: And now he's gone. And and in the same offseason 891 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: where you know, we just said j Cutler might be 892 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: gone to the other great whipping boy of the NFL. 893 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: So in the same offseason we lose to the people 894 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: that people most enjoyed kicking around. Who's gonna fill their void? 895 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: Who becomes the number one whipping boy? Uh? In this league, 896 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: whether you want to look at it just from a 897 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,800 Speaker 1: quarterback perspective an entire league, or maybe they're just a 898 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: void now and that's less fun. You like to have 899 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: somebody to beat up on. That's sad. Could be bad 900 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: news for Eli Manning late period maybe or maybe one 901 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: of these young quarterbacks that West already UH feels distain 902 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: for to have some sort of hell turn earlier in 903 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: the year, because I mean, Cutler's was a heel turn 904 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: at one point where he's sort of this is a 905 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: guy that doesn't seem to care as much as the 906 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: other people, and maybe one of these guys shows up 907 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: in that kind of way and they take that man. 908 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: Cam Newton is is in danger. He's always seemed to 909 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 1: engender a lot of UMU dislike from people. Don't overlook 910 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles with this possibility, Like Bordles, Andy Dalton. Maybe 911 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: he's kind of been a familiar person to pile on, 912 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: but there's not a lot like Matt Stafford. Look at Matt, Hey, Matt, 913 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: He's coming off to a couple of his best seasons. 914 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,320 Speaker 1: But you know, hey, look out. That's all I'm saying. 915 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you're prominent quarterback, highly paid. I haven't haven't 916 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: done a lot. No no, no, no, I'm saying that. 917 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: I just keep your head on a swivel. That's what 918 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Oh, you're saying he's gonna be like the 919 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: new media whipping boys. Yeah, that's what I'm What do 920 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: you think I'm taking shots at Stafford? I thought you 921 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: were saying he was gonna be like sort of a 922 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: black sheep. No no, no, no, okay, Oh maybe he 923 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: will if you if you become like a whipping boy 924 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: of the league, you just gotta watch out. I think 925 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm just going through the quarterbacks right now. I don't know. 926 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: Kaepernick is too easy a target. Aren't a lot of options? No, 927 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: that's what we're kind of missing. What if we just 928 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: don't have a There has to be though, right doesn't 929 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 1: there have to Society can take out it's it's frustrations, 930 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: And isn't that what football is. It was a way 931 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: for the people to to get out all their frustrations 932 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: in life and try to forget about what's dealing what 933 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: they're dealing with it. But sometimes that comes up and 934 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: you need to kick Tony, like putting all your sins 935 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: on a goat and sending them outside the city walls. Exactly. 936 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford still hanging around and my favorite Romo get Bradford. 937 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: My favorite Romo game, uh is the Week five. I 938 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: wrote about this yesterday two thousand thirteen. Peyton Manning and 939 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: his fifty five touchdowns, the shootout in Geral World where 940 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: for four fifty eight minutes, um Tony Romo outplayed the 941 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: best quarterback alive in a year where he had at 942 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: one point in that game because I watched them yesterday. Uh, 943 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning in the second half had seventeen touchdowns and 944 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: zero interceptions on the season. That's how locked in Manning 945 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: was that year. And Romo had a I wrote Troy 946 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: Aikman meets Joe Namath performance where he threw for over 947 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: five yards on just thirty six attempts, five touchdowns, and 948 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: it was like everything you love about Tony Romo made 949 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: some amazing acrobatic It was spin moves and making every 950 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 1: throw you can imagine. And then in a game that was, uh, 951 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: he throws a bad interception in his own and the 952 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: first mistake he makes all day and he never sees 953 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: the ball again. The Broncos win with a field goal 954 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: at the gun. It was the most Tony Romo game ever. 955 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,840 Speaker 1: And it also because Tony Romo was kind of the 956 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, we we called him the roor Shart what 957 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: was it called test that people saw in that game 958 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: what they wanted to see, and I think that's what 959 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: Tony Romo has been throughout his career. Is that your 960 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: big takeaway? No, but it's pretty good. It's it's connected, 961 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,879 Speaker 1: which is that he was one of the most entertaining 962 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: players in the league since the minute he joined it, 963 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: and football is ultimately an entertainment for me, and that's 964 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: why he I'm him retiring makes me realize that he 965 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: really is one of my favorite players of all time 966 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: that I've gotten to watch, uh, you know, over this 967 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: last decade, certainly because he was always willing to go 968 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: deep like he he was always willing to go for it. 969 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: And I my takeaway is really that the Cowboys, for 970 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: the most part, let him down. You know, when people 971 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: get on Tony Romo, it's like, well he didn't do 972 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: this or that. It's like no one's saying he was 973 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning or one of the top 974 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: three or four quarterbacks. But he was in that group 975 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: right behind him. And when you they had weapons around him, 976 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: but they had one defense in his entire run that 977 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: ranked in top twelve in points allowed. And I was 978 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: looking at this old article I wrote that I don't 979 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: even remember the ten most painful Tony Romo losses, and 980 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: they're all the they're all them blowing huge leads, which 981 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: is partly on Tony Romo, but it's mostly on a 982 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: lousy defense and Jerry Jones, you know, signing you know, 983 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: picking Bobby Carpenter, Felix Jones in the first rounder, trading 984 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: fer Roy Williams, or signing Ken Hamlin, and in his 985 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: best years, I think they really let Tony Romo down 986 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: and people would think of him differently if they had 987 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: a better team around him. He wasn't perfect, but he 988 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: was more than good enough during the best part of 989 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: his career to win a lot more games. A lot 990 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 1: of his best seasons were when they were eight and 991 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: eight and just the rest of the team was junk. 992 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: To your point about entertaining entertaining players, I mean, why 993 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: don't we watch sports for the thrills? And I think 994 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 1: when you look back and you do rankings of who 995 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: was the best at this position or that position, you 996 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: always leave out who was the most underwatch, which is 997 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: not a small factor. When I think about Brett Farve 998 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,359 Speaker 1: until the last few years with Tom Brady, Brett farr 999 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: gave me more thrills than every other quarterback combined. That's 1000 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: how funny was to watch for. And you were like, 1001 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: I know, younger generations kind of saw the end of 1002 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: Farv and he was sort of like everybody was tired 1003 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: of because the retirement stuff and John Madden's effusive praise. 1004 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: But in the nineties, there was not a more fun 1005 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: athlete to what well, Michael Jordan. But you're right, but 1006 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: when when the Browns moved for those three seasons, I 1007 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: went to the sports bar. I continually mentioned sports bars 1008 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 1: on this episode. I don't know why, but like week 1009 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: after week for one reason, Brett Farve I would watch 1010 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: him over and over and I just sit in front 1011 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,439 Speaker 1: of him. Romo's playing style is there's a lot like that. 1012 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: Like he he didn't have the arm strength of five, 1013 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: but he was really talented. I mean that kind of 1014 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: gets overlooked with Romo because he's an undrafted player, but 1015 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: he was an exceptionally talented player who pulled off like 1016 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: crazy throws all the time. There's also a point to 1017 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: be made. As football gets more and more complicated and 1018 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: coaches become more important, not only important, but obsessive, you 1019 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: lose some of that improvisation at quarterback, and that's one 1020 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,399 Speaker 1: of the most fun parts of the game. He also 1021 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: saved the Cowboys after you know they've They're always America's team, 1022 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: so they're always in prime time. I mean, we get 1023 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: sick of some teams in primetime these days. How about 1024 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: the cowboys in the For the ten fifteen years before 1025 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,000 Speaker 1: Tony Romo arrived, always on national television, always a bore 1026 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: with Quincy Carter Hutchinson or even Drew Bledsoe. It's like, 1027 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: give me a break. Romo came along. Suddenly they're a 1028 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of fun. I liked when Romo was on our show. 1029 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: Maybe is it Easter Egg said, maybe we could put 1030 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: that at the end of this episode when Rome or 1031 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe not, but uh, we'll have to listen to it. 1032 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: But when Romo was on the show, I always enjoyed 1033 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 1: that he worked in like this totally canned anecdote about 1034 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: his like brother going to the grocery store. It was like, 1035 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: does anybody have any memory of this guy? I totally 1036 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: do that. He said this story like three like like 1037 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: the way I'm reading off a sheet for an ad. Uh. 1038 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 1: He was reading off the sheet that clearly like somebody 1039 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,959 Speaker 1: else had written for him about and he's like, you're right, guys, 1040 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: And you know what, it reminds me of my brother 1041 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 1: when he would go to the supermarket. And I remember 1042 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: being just like taking it back, Uh, maybe regrets I 1043 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 1: have us not having a real conversation with Tony Roman. 1044 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,839 Speaker 1: But it's not easy on the phone, and that's why 1045 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,480 Speaker 1: I usually don't have guests on the show, to be 1046 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: honest with you. I think he did one of about 1047 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: seventy that day and we were just like the next 1048 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: we were like number forty six. That wasn't the height 1049 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: of the Crownies, right, that was like around that time. 1050 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm calling it a crown Yeah, it was because we 1051 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: played that and laughed way too hard, like every time 1052 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: we played Uh well, yeah, let's now we have to 1053 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,399 Speaker 1: add to the end of the show. Um, all right. 1054 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: By the way, Mark, you've perfected your wardrobe. But what 1055 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: about the stuff not everybody gets to see? You're junk? 1056 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: All right, Greg? What about it? Dan? What is men's Well, 1057 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: it's underwear that gets shipped to you. If you're us 1058 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: rhetoric I'm reading, I don't even know. I'm gonna jump 1059 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: out of the spot contractually. I don't know if anyone's 1060 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,919 Speaker 1: allowed to talk while I'm talking. Who knows they're getting 1061 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 1: more time. Guess we'll find out. And I also realized 1062 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: it's ironic Mark to work you into the meandes bit 1063 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: when you don't wear and actually do not you. Yeah, 1064 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: I've changed. Yep, but the two in Sydney come back 1065 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: to us breaking a little bit of breaking news. Breaking news. 1066 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: Mark under Mark wears under pants. I do, and like, 1067 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: here's the thing. They shipped us a couple of pairs 1068 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: which were fantastic. But mine, my two pairs of Medes 1069 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: are still in my car, in the passenger seat, so 1070 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: I need to try them on. I had the wife 1071 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 1: wash mine, give them a nice good wash before you 1072 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: put them over your privates, in your buttocks. All right, 1073 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: I wore them. How do they feel? I would tell 1074 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: you this. I am very particular about underwear. Yea, as 1075 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: particular as I am about anything I wear. And they 1076 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 1: they stack up, they stack up, I'll be wearing them. 1077 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: They're in the rotation anyway. What is Meand's just seriously soft, 1078 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: feel good Andy's delivered right to your door. Meandies are 1079 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: designed in l A and made from sustainably sourced micro 1080 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: model Modal modal a fabric three times softer than cotton, 1081 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: Meandi softer than soft lug undis coming in an ever 1082 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: changing selection of classic colors, bolt shapes, and adventurous patterns, 1083 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 1: so you can tell your Ondies to your own personal 1084 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: style and guess what what. You can save time and 1085 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: money each month with a monthly subscription. And if you're 1086 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: not ready for a subscription, that's okay, you can still save. 1087 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: That's because means is offering you off your first pair. 1088 00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: Just use our special you are l me Undy's dot 1089 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: com slash NFL and get off your first pair. So 1090 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: go ahead revamp your underwear drawer. You deserve it. Once again. 1091 00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: That's Meand's dot com slash NFL seventeen me Undies dot 1092 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: com slash NFL. I like that it's a local product 1093 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: right here in Los Angeles. But again we appreciate that 1094 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 1: they sent us a few pairs. But the next portion, 1095 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: the next gift to you know, following the footsteps and 1096 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,320 Speaker 1: Mr f how about a tour of the underwear factory 1097 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: right in her own backyard. I mean, that's certainly something 1098 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 1: that could interest some people. I think you should. I 1099 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know what else they offer at this point. Great underpants. 1100 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 1: Uh wow, I am. I'm reeling from the marccessor reveal 1101 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: that he's back in the underpants game in a big spot. 1102 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: By the way, I think you said that you felt 1103 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,799 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure once, you know, I told you 1104 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 1: that this is going to be the show people looking 1105 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: back on I think this, I think we we delivered. Yeah, 1106 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: I think it will hold up in the test of time. 1107 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,840 Speaker 1: People want to know what was up with Towny Ramo. 1108 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 1: Check this out and if you didn't like it, so good? 1109 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: Is that something that people said, Yeah you did bowl 1110 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: in future generations if you want to know what people 1111 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: talk like, if someone disagrees with you, you just go sucking. 1112 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: That's what That's what everyone said in the uh the 1113 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 1: mid Paper Contemporary din al right, before we go, should 1114 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: we call Italie by the way, let's do it, because 1115 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, he's the lovable loser of the podcast for 1116 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: you know, the Cam Newton situation. I mean the Super 1117 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Panthers and the champagne bottle and and 1118 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: then last year UNC lost, you know, horrifically at the 1119 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: buzzer to Villanova. But then they got back to the 1120 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: title game and they want it. So I think it's 1121 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: only fair to give give him a shot now to 1122 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: get on the line. Not the only reason why he's 1123 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: a lovable loser, you want eviscerted him for his love life. 1124 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's something that's still a little sensitive. So 1125 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: why don't we say, can we call up the newsroom 1126 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 1: and okay, thanks? It just does great work behind the class, 1127 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: isn't the kind of him? Kenna? Can I speak with 1128 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 1: Dave Eallye? Please? Stan hansis some ofing around the NFL podcast, 1129 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: I suppose, so hold on second, Kenna, I suppose social 1130 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: s David Eoey, Hey, buddy, Hey Dan, how's it going? 1131 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: You tell me? I'm I'm flying high man the a 1132 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: A Chapel Hill UH student Dave really heartbreak both when 1133 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: he bought the champagne bottle, uh, super Bowl fifty for 1134 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: the Panthers, his beloved Panthers, heartbreak again when Villanova the 1135 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: buzzer beater. Heartbreak of course, when the only girl that 1136 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: he's ever truly loved decided she would rather be with 1137 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: another man. But on this day, April, what was at 1138 00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 1: fourth or third two seventeen avially finished first? Yeah, and 1139 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: and obviously the tar Heels dead. I mean I just was, 1140 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: I was watching them actually was out the final four Saturday. 1141 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's been a whirlwind of a few days. And 1142 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: that was another kind of riveting victory. Uh. And I 1143 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: imagine there were a lot of celebrations both before and 1144 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: after both games, And at this point, I think you 1145 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: probably are feeling pretty good about yourself, arn't you. I'm 1146 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: feeling good. I'm feeling better today. Yes, yesterday was pretty 1147 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: pretty touch and go. Um it was. It was a 1148 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: late Monday night. And then to see Tony Romo's news 1149 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: at six am, uh the next morning on limited sleep 1150 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: was um it was. It was quite the change of emotions. 1151 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: Were you even planning to come into work before that? 1152 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: Before you saw that? I was definitely not playing on 1153 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: coming in early? Um? I was. It was a fifty 1154 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: fifty on whether I wanted to come to the office. Um, 1155 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: let's just say I wasn't feeling great when I came 1156 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: into work. You're a true pro because you had the 1157 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: Romo content cranking, well organized. I salute you kissing up now. 1158 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: I really do believe that Eale, like that was a 1159 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: La Ravio, magnificent. He showed colors. It's the rare positive 1160 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: La rab Yeah, you don't get too many of those. 1161 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that most need you need a new 1162 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: name for that. Yeah, well I'll tell you what really, 1163 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's check the boxes here. You're things 1164 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,600 Speaker 1: are going well at the office, you have a you 1165 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: have a nice position. You seem to have the respect 1166 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: of your colleagues. You are now a champion in terms 1167 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: of the teams that you follow with the UNC with 1168 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: a big victory. Uh, Cam Newton is gonna come back 1169 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: from from being uh coming off a down year and 1170 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: probably really get back in the swing of things. And 1171 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: there's a mark. There's only one thing missing now, which 1172 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: is that big hole in the center of Dave's heart. Yeah. 1173 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean when we tried to call Dave initially, we 1174 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 1: got a you know, does not connect number, And that's 1175 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: essentially David's love life as far as we know. We 1176 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 1: need more to happen. Uh. And sorry, I'll just I mean, 1177 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 1: I'd rather talk basketball, but I'll just say things are 1178 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: going well in that department right now. Who like to 1179 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 1: see some tangent roof of that. But Dan was looking 1180 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: for different people other than Tony Romo to kick around. 1181 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Maybe you won't have David Eally to kick around either anymore. Yeah, 1182 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy for Dave, but isn't a little 1183 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640 Speaker 1: bit more fun when things aren't going Dave's way. Let's 1184 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, I think it's probably more fun 1185 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,880 Speaker 1: for the listeners. But you know maybe it's some some 1186 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,520 Speaker 1: good thing to do happen in al Right, good to hear, 1187 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: David Eally, things are looking up um for the lead 1188 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: desk editor at NFL Media. What what a moment and 1189 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: the sun you're having. So we just wanted to give 1190 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: you your fair time here and say congratulations, buddy, I 1191 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: appreciate it. You still gotta you gotta work on Debbie still. 1192 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 1: I know, we believe it. I was hurt. I was 1193 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I was hurt when that happened. But I feel like 1194 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Mark systematically set that up. She didn't really want to 1195 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: do it, wanted her to do it. Just a side note, 1196 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 1: I will not be appearing in our workplace for the 1197 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: next three or four weeks, David. It's my boss. Think 1198 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: I should let you know. All right, Dave will be 1199 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 1: great talking to you again the next time Carolina wins 1200 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: a championship. Alright, there you go say we're equal opportunists 1201 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: here that I mean, I think Dave, David deserved that, 1202 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and uh am I a little disappointed that Gonzaga didn't 1203 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: figure out a way to pull that thing out and 1204 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: uh send Elie back here with the tails Betune. He 1205 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 1: is like a little bit but I also like the guy. 1206 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: So it's like it's your kind of you to well, 1207 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,720 Speaker 1: we know your first priority is the podcast you like 1208 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: the podcast number one, number one David Eale number two 1209 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: podcast is in the trust Tree. All right, we'll be 1210 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: back on Thursday. Actually, um, we are doing our first 1211 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: this is big news. Actually we're doing a series of 1212 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 1: uh shows on tape video video digital. I don't know 1213 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: it's on a real real tape to be on NFL 1214 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: dot com. We're gonna stream the show, a video version 1215 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: of the show which everyone can watch on NFL dot com. 1216 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be every Thursday, I believe for the 1217 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: month of April. Has anybody else plugged in on this? 1218 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: That is I think it's an April production. Log on 1219 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: your like eight pound laptop or desktop computer to NFL 1220 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,640 Speaker 1: dot com. I believe you can. You can watch it 1221 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: on your phone and really I don't maybe you can. 1222 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: I believe it. It streams at six specific so that 1223 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: would be nine Eastern or on your phone. And what 1224 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 1: why is the weight of the laptop matter at all? 1225 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: The saying like, oh, this this show applies to people 1226 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 1: that are like home in a den on like a 1227 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: gigantic like desktop computer with a giant box from you 1228 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: can watch it on your phone on the subway alright, 1229 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: on your Apple TV. You can so many options here 1230 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: and there. You're to watch our show on video tomorrow Thursday. 1231 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: So we'll have another show tomorrow. So that's good news 1232 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of what we do. So let's go. 1233 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: We got stuff to do. More stuff to do today 1234 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: is Dan hands is signing off four Quiet Storm the 1235 01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: mailman in Pepper Spray. Talk about that on Thursday, and 1236 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I see it behind the glass. Tell Thursday on the 1237 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,919 Speaker 1: phone right now, the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Yes, 1238 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 1: the great Tony Romo. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Tony, 1239 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: glad to have you. Appreciate thanks for having me. Guys. 1240 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 1: You know you always no right around this time of 1241 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: your commercials start airing and you see it and then 1242 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm gonna have to watch this commercial 1243 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: roughly seven million times over the course of the NFL season. 1244 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: In the case of these direct TV commercials, it's pretty 1245 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: good though, because they obviously they put some there's some 1246 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: good production work, some good premises. Tony Romo has a 1247 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: great new direct TV commercial for a Sunday Ticket, the 1248 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: name of the character, and Tony, you could let us 1249 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: know if you had anything to do with us creatively 1250 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the background, arts and Crafts Tony Romo, the features gems 1251 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,120 Speaker 1: like this. I mixed a cupcake and a brownie up 1252 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: calling it a crownie. I mean, that is good stuff. 1253 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 1: So first of all, Tony, take us through this character 1254 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: and had you did you have anything to do with 1255 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 1: coming up with it, and how did you like doing 1256 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, arts and Crafts, Tony Romo. It was great. 1257 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: It was definitely a unique experience. I hadn't set in 1258 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,040 Speaker 1: a makeup chair for four hours before, but yeah, it was. 1259 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: It was a little different. I think, um, they they 1260 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: had the plan for the situation, and obviously I agreed 1261 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: to it and then I was in there. Though they 1262 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,959 Speaker 1: had a certain way. I think that they they wanted 1263 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: me to just to be a little bit less probably 1264 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,760 Speaker 1: than what you saw. But I ended up feeling I 1265 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: ended up feeling as though this guy like lives by 1266 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: himself and he's never seen, like, he doesn't interact with 1267 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: even beings very often. I felt like the camera crew 1268 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: in this guy's house and now he's really excited to 1269 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: show but he's a little weirded out by everybody and 1270 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: say he just kind of felt that way when I 1271 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: was on set, So I kind of just took on 1272 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,680 Speaker 1: that roll a little bit and then it kind of 1273 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: made it into what it is, and Arts and Craftsy 1274 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 1: became a little paranoid Arts and Craftsy. So so you 1275 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: went full method. You're like Robert de Niro. You can 1276 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,280 Speaker 1: create a whole you know, character sketching a story to 1277 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: get you in the mind frame before you go. Yeah, exactly, 1278 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm just like Robert de Niro, like it kind of 1279 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,919 Speaker 1: what it was like. I hear a little Paul Rudd. 1280 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure my Academy awards are right around the courting 1281 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: or anything. I would if someone asked me to describe 1282 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: it, it it would be like Bob Vila meets Bob Bross 1283 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: and then just a lot of sadness. It's a good description. 1284 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: Uh that's pretty good. But I and I am excited. 1285 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna let you go in a second, Tony that 1286 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: you have. The NFCS is gonna be obviously wide open 1287 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: again this year, but the biggest to me, uh battle 1288 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: right now is Arts and Crafts. Tony Romo and Bad 1289 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: comedian Eli manning on the commercial front, that's a good one. 1290 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: That's fun. Before you guys, let me go. When I 1291 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: was younger, I used to, you know, want to watch 1292 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 1: our NFC East opponents, and I never had actually, you know, 1293 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,160 Speaker 1: direct TV, NFL Sunday Ticket, and I would literally go 1294 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 1: there and get excited about our bye weekend or play 1295 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Thursday game that we're gonna watch Eli, We're gonna watch 1296 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles or the Redskins, whoever. And then I get 1297 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: on there and they put on whoever, and I'm like, 1298 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me, And I would be such 1299 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: a match shop again. No, and that was like and 1300 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 1: it was like, you know what, you got the Sunday 1301 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: Ticket thing. They you can watch every single game, you know, 1302 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: live and then watch every minute of it. It was like, 1303 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: this is crazy. I mean, how does everybody not have, 1304 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, the steal My uncle literally orders the Max 1305 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: Steel and he gets to watch the streams on his phone. 1306 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: He watches it, he goes out to the grocery store 1307 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: and watches it again. Like that's so different than it 1308 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: was five years ago. So I want to thank TV 1309 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: and Sunday Ticket for that. It's made it a lot 1310 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: better for or by weekend. It definitely has. It's a 1311 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 1: lot different than sports experience. Now Tony Romo, good luck 1312 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 1: in the upcoming season, and thank you for joining us 1313 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Onthing Around the NFL podcast