Speaker 1: I've been here for six days and I think I've
Speaker 1: lost about five years in my life.
Speaker 2: Man, what's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, be Small Lynch.
Speaker 1: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politickets
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: To be you know to be.
Speaker 1: So, Marshawn. I you know I got to tell you
Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl. I see you on national commercial.
Speaker 1: I see you on a Starbucks commercial. I get through
Speaker 1: to NBA All Star Week and you're hosting one of
Speaker 1: the coolest things I've ever seen, a community FanFest event
Speaker 1: with the entire Oakland and the Bey area coming out.
Speaker 3: You did it your way, a real way.
Speaker 1: On top of that, you're also in a little show
Speaker 1: called Euphoria. Last I checked, it's the number one show
Speaker 1: in the in the US. How you do so, Marshawn,
Speaker 1: take me through your will win a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: of all this incredible stuff you've done.
Speaker 4: I mean, shit, Brice, you can't just go put me
Speaker 4: on the spot man, Fresh.
Speaker 3: You know I apologize.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm just saying Fresh. You know how I moved, man, Marshawn.
Speaker 1: I want to ask, she's something real quicking in a
Speaker 1: real note. You were close to someone very much uh
Speaker 1: in your life, the former owner of the Seahawks, Paul Allen.
Speaker 1: And this past few days you received the Paul Allen
Speaker 1: Humanitarian Award.
Speaker 3: Take me through that award and what that meant to you?
Speaker 4: Man, Look fresh, you're gonna you're gonna have to let
Speaker 4: me chew on something. You gotta let me eat one
Speaker 4: time for the one time, man to But to get
Speaker 4: that award was uh.
Speaker 2: Was pretty big that.
Speaker 4: Like, as I was sitting there and me and Babs
Speaker 4: was talking, and I look on the on the award
Speaker 4: thing and I realized, like, you know, this ain't something
Speaker 4: that I you know, I'm not really good at receiving ship.
Speaker 4: But then when I seen like my name and it
Speaker 4: had Paul Allen name on it and being award and
Speaker 4: award in his name, that was big for me because, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, towards the end of my career, me and
Speaker 4: him started to we had we started the conversating. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, like I said at the award show, like
Speaker 4: this would actually respond to me, Like I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: we would have conversations and you know, I could ask
Speaker 4: him questions about you know, whether it was some investments
Speaker 4: that came out way or if I was looking for
Speaker 4: real estate or should I be looking at like you know,
Speaker 4: he he was. He would chop it up with me
Speaker 4: because everything that I would hear about him was like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, Paul Ellen, he's no kind of different. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't really talk to people, and you know all this,
Speaker 4: that and the third. But I just remember him coming
Speaker 4: to one of my foundation dinners that we were having,
Speaker 4: and the response that I got from a few people
Speaker 4: that was up on the third floor was like, hold on,
Speaker 4: he'd really coming to your event.
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah.
Speaker 4: He said he was gonna play as his guitar and
Speaker 4: hell is shit. And I'm like they like, well, you
Speaker 4: know he don't come out right. I'm like, nah, I
Speaker 4: didn't know. But we reached out and he said he
Speaker 4: was gonna come MiB too, And I just remember the
Speaker 4: first about the first but two three minutes he was there.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we taking shots of patrinity.
Speaker 3: By the way, I was right with you, me, you, me,
Speaker 3: you him and Michael Bennett.
Speaker 4: Remember that Michael Bennett and you had your boy Joe
Speaker 4: was there.
Speaker 2: Too, yep.
Speaker 4: And I'm like they like, man, I don't know what
Speaker 4: the hell is going on, but he took a shot
Speaker 4: of patrinity with you. And then I mean, you know
Speaker 4: we sat at the table and I mean I just
Speaker 4: was chopping it up with him on some on some
Speaker 4: cool on a year feel me like, what's up with it?
Speaker 2: Bro? And the nigga was solid to me.
Speaker 4: So I don't understand, like you know, that was other
Speaker 4: people's perception of me, but you know, for me, he
Speaker 4: was solid. So being able to get this award, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And his name is you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's full circle for me, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And and to me it's it's a
Speaker 4: real life respect. And like I said, I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: it made it a little easier to accept that award
Speaker 4: because I know, you know what I mean, what it means.
Speaker 4: And then I mean, you know all the philanthropy work
Speaker 4: that he was doing. Like I remember he called me
Speaker 4: one time. I remember you remember this too. He called
Speaker 4: me and he was like, man, can you get into
Speaker 4: Seattle tomorrow? And I'm like, yeah, wow, what's up? Like
Speaker 4: I want to have a conversation with you. I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, cool, I'll be up there one time. Like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm in the Philippines right now. I think I just
Speaker 4: found the Japanese uh a Japanese fightership at the bottom
Speaker 4: of the Philippine Ocean. But uh, I'll be in Seattle.
Speaker 4: I'll need you there, like at four o'clock or some shit.
Speaker 4: I remember getting off the phone like, hey, Fresh, I
Speaker 4: gotta get to Seattle right now.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 4: You're like what, I'm like, yeah, man, Parly just called me,
Speaker 4: told me we got to get up there.
Speaker 2: You're like, well, shit, we going? I say, yeah.
Speaker 4: This motherfucker just told me he was in the the
Speaker 4: middle of the Philippine Ocean, found a Japanese cruise ship
Speaker 4: and we went and got it on our private pe
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And we went up to
Speaker 4: Seattle and we had an interesting conversation with that gentleman.
Speaker 2: But I mean, you know that to get that award
Speaker 2: was huge.
Speaker 1: Everybody. What an incredible day for our politic and guests.
Speaker 1: We have a former I want to say this same
Speaker 1: high school as me, different time, the mean streets Mona
Speaker 1: Vissa High School to junior college to UCLA football player
Speaker 1: to then scout with the Patriots Broncos forty nine ers
Speaker 1: and newly named last year general manager and executive the
Speaker 1: Year of the Washington Commanders, the hottest gym in football.
Speaker 5: Adam Peters guys, owed, what's up, Big Doug.
Speaker 3: Adam.
Speaker 1: I just told Marshawn, I keep telling about the mean
Speaker 1: streets and Montaviston Creupatino, and He's like, come on, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck mean about them streets.
Speaker 6: There's a couple of blocks. There's a couple of blocks
Speaker 6: that are.
Speaker 3: Tough, you know, Yeah, a couple of tough blocks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we started getting into where the migos hanging out at.
Speaker 2: Then you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, well, Adam.
Speaker 1: Throughout these last fifteen years, as I was ever represented Marshawn,
Speaker 1: I've told him that I grew up in the mean
Speaker 1: streets of Creupatino and he came down one time to
Speaker 1: my mom's house.
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, mean streets. Come on, bro.
Speaker 1: But Marshawn, you'll love Adam. Adam is. Adam's like me, dude.
Speaker 1: He's a state school, public school kid, grinder, scrapper, junior
Speaker 1: college player at West Valley College to UCLA to now
Speaker 1: the grind of an NFL scout and now a current GM.
Speaker 3: Marshawn, He's been battling for a long time.
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard uh your back down? Your background
Speaker 4: ran down like that?
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, a couple of times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you hear how it done. Just run your
Speaker 4: whole background down. Yeah, you sound pretty pretty accomplished.
Speaker 7: My boy, Well, he's like he's kind of bragging about himself.
Speaker 7: He's just like me. He did all this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeeah, you feel well.
Speaker 1: I got to be honest with Marshawn. I saw Adam
Speaker 1: yesterday and we had a few. Uh, we had a few.
Speaker 1: We had a lout this way. We had a long
Speaker 1: lunch for many, many hours, and for me, it lasted
Speaker 1: about nine hours.
Speaker 3: Put it that way.
Speaker 1: Adam had to go to work, but I had about
Speaker 1: a nine hours lunch that turned into a lunch to
Speaker 1: a dinner with a few cocktails in between.
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you how many how many
Speaker 4: drinks was involved in that?
Speaker 3: There was a few right at him.
Speaker 6: There was a few. You had a lot. You had
Speaker 6: a lot. I think was the night before I was
Speaker 6: still struggling.
Speaker 4: Hey, my boy, my boy drank like a guppy.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to tell you a funny story, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name the other GM that was there,
Speaker 1: But there was a gem there Marshawn that came to
Speaker 1: have a drink or two and he was going to
Speaker 1: go to mass and there was a Friday Mass or
Speaker 1: Thursday Mass, and let's just say he missed the Mass,
Speaker 1: and he missed a few more things. So his intentions
Speaker 1: were pure. But I think my my cocktail soda line
Speaker 1: got the best of them, and he missed the mass,
Speaker 1: so it's all good.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't think that's something you should be bragging.
Speaker 7: No, I know, I think what you're telling him about that,
Speaker 7: But you know what, that happens a lot here, a lot,
Speaker 7: a lot of things are missed here, but those types
Speaker 7: of deals get done during those situations, not so much meeting,
Speaker 7: but when you're hanging out and you're talking and you're
Speaker 7: being honest with each other and being straight and so
Speaker 7: I actually had a good conversation with him too. Hopefully
Speaker 7: we'll get something done. But that's how this place is.
Speaker 7: You know, Like you know, you're not in your regular meetings,
Speaker 7: you're really not doing a lot of shit. It's when
Speaker 7: you're kind of in the meetings. After the meetings is
Speaker 7: when the real talk goes down.
Speaker 1: Well, Adam, before we get to that, you forget that
Speaker 1: at him. I was like me and Marshaan is like
Speaker 1: the origin story on things in life. And you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know and their listeners, Like
Speaker 1: you get done with UCLA, played football there, and then
Speaker 1: instead of going to be a software salesman, instead of
Speaker 1: investment banking, instead of whatever it may be, you get
Speaker 1: into being a scout. How does one go from college
Speaker 1: to a scout because a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: how that is? How did you do that when you
Speaker 1: left UCLA years ago?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really just the function of I didn't know
Speaker 7: what I wanted to.
Speaker 6: Do, Like, I had zero plans with my life.
Speaker 7: And I didn't really realize how not good I was
Speaker 7: at football until I realized it really late. I always
Speaker 7: thought I was better than I was so but by
Speaker 7: the time I realized, Okay, I'm probably not going to
Speaker 7: be doing this for a living, I wanted to stay
Speaker 7: in that. I was a psychology major, and there's not
Speaker 7: a whole lot of cool psychology jobs. It's really beneficial
Speaker 7: learning about it because you can talk to people a
Speaker 7: certain way and you understand people a certain way a
Speaker 7: little bit more.
Speaker 6: But I wasn't going to be a psychologist, so I
Speaker 6: was like, I want to stay in football.
Speaker 7: So the year after I finished playing, I was bill
Speaker 7: still in school, so I decided to.
Speaker 6: Stay and start working in the in the football office.
Speaker 7: So I worked in the football office with a dude,
Speaker 7: Randy Taylor, who was our director of operations. Had some
Speaker 7: great coaches, guys that are still in the lead today.
Speaker 6: You ever play for Vienname my Sean.
Speaker 4: I didn't get to play for him, but I got
Speaker 4: a pretty good relationship with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he was a coach, and then John Hembry
Speaker 6: was a coach.
Speaker 7: Then my coach at the time was Don Johnson god
Speaker 7: rest his soul is an incredible man and d line coach.
Speaker 7: So those guys kind of all took me under their
Speaker 7: wing and allowed me to work there. And so I
Speaker 7: worked there for you know whatever, six seven dollars an hour,
Speaker 7: just doing whatever I could to, you know, go and
Speaker 7: getting sandwiches, coffee and watching Tate.
Speaker 2: So he was grinding, dud, Do you hear that? Real grinding?
Speaker 3: So Adam, all your all your friends leave college.
Speaker 1: We're making one hundred grand, sixty grand, seventy grand, and
Speaker 1: what was your salary starting out with the Patriots as
Speaker 1: a scout it was.
Speaker 6: It was a hard negotiation. They said, you're making eighteen thousand.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, eighteen thousand.
Speaker 6: I drove out there. I said, all right, I'm not men.
Speaker 7: So so I took a I took a Penske truck
Speaker 7: from Westwood up to the Bay Area, loaded a bunch
Speaker 7: of shit in there. It was towing My had this
Speaker 7: like old accurate legend. This thing was actually awesome, six speed,
Speaker 7: like I could hal ass in that thing. Yeah, throwed
Speaker 7: that on the back, drove across the country to New
Speaker 7: England and then, uh, ship.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on you you didn't even fly.
Speaker 7: You drove, drove five days, made a few stops, almost
Speaker 7: died a couple of times, right through a snowstorm and
Speaker 7: snow yeah.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it was during Uh it was during the spring.
Speaker 7: And hit a massive snowstorm on like I eighty, went
Speaker 7: through like Montana and Wyoming, almost.
Speaker 6: Drove off the side of the road.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: It was a wild trip, but but it was all
Speaker 6: meant to be.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 7: It was cool and a lot of cool people in
Speaker 7: New England. Won a lot of games, and then uh
Speaker 7: really kick started my career.
Speaker 4: As so you was you was over there when uh
Speaker 4: when when I came and had my little run in.
Speaker 2: Uh in Buffalo.
Speaker 6: Then, yeah, I went to New England three to nine
Speaker 6: and I started.
Speaker 7: And you won't remember this, but obviously I knew you
Speaker 7: really well because I became a West Coast scout in No. Six,
Speaker 7: So I was scout in your area. So I was
Speaker 7: coming to Cow all the time. I park up in
Speaker 7: that bullpen. Yeah, seeing those meeting rooms when all those
Speaker 7: fuckers were in the trees, you know.
Speaker 3: Hippie Hill, Baby, Hippie Hill.
Speaker 6: That ain't hippie hell man, it wasn't in the hill.
Speaker 6: It was in the trees.
Speaker 4: In the trees. They filed them up. They built the community. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in the tree. But I'm gonna tell you this. Them
Speaker 4: trees still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They wouldn't take them down.
Speaker 2: They didn't.
Speaker 4: They couldn't. They tried it. Yeah, man, look, let me
Speaker 4: tell you an interesting story about that. Not to get
Speaker 4: not to get a sidetracked. But the police came. Men
Speaker 4: was trying to get those people out the trees. Now,
Speaker 4: like I said, they had a community up there. They
Speaker 4: had buckets. I'm talking about trash buckets full of piss
Speaker 4: and ship And when the police would come up to
Speaker 4: they would throw that ship on the police, and when
Speaker 4: we would come up for practice, you could smell all
Speaker 4: that ship and fish just everywhere.
Speaker 2: But those trees are still there till this day.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was like a non negotiable when they built
Speaker 7: the new stadium, the new stadium.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't kill those trees.
Speaker 4: They say, you building around these trees. These trees ain't
Speaker 4: going nowhere, Adam.
Speaker 1: What people know back then early on, like what what
Speaker 1: does the scout do? I mean, so you you were,
Speaker 1: you're the West Coast scout. What's trying to find uh
Speaker 1: the best player? I mean, what what did that job entail?
Speaker 1: And that grind early on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know it's it's it is a grind.
Speaker 7: And again, when you're in an area scout, you're not
Speaker 7: making a lot of money.
Speaker 6: Just driving all around in my.
Speaker 7: Area was huge, like all the way out you know,
Speaker 7: up from the Bay Area, all the way up to Washington,
Speaker 7: over to Idaho, down to Utah, all the way down
Speaker 7: like New Mexico.
Speaker 6: So I just drive around in a circle wall fall,
Speaker 6: put like thirty thousand miles on my car all fall,
Speaker 6: and just stop at these schools. Cows. One of them
Speaker 6: went to a lot and just try to find guys,
Speaker 6: and Marshawn was alone.
Speaker 2: They don't they don't give you no budget to fly.
Speaker 6: Not in the area. Scout.
Speaker 7: Now you just drive. Now you get you get a
Speaker 7: car stipend or you get like mileage. But not until
Speaker 7: you're graduating to a national Scout or a director. You're
Speaker 7: not flying anywhere. You're just drive and just just wearing
Speaker 7: out your car. So you know, those drives are long
Speaker 7: on the West coast man between the long fun Yeah,
Speaker 7: so i'd get like.
Speaker 6: Ship what I listened to?
Speaker 7: I listened to, you know, like this, we can get
Speaker 7: into this too, Marshawnuh, some Bay Area rap. But I
Speaker 7: would just listen to shit fucking on a loop, listening
Speaker 7: to mac drad for like hours and hours and hours.
Speaker 4: Well, look, man, you picked the good artist to listen
Speaker 4: to if you're going to be driving from fucking Washington
Speaker 4: to New Mexico.
Speaker 2: Like god damn.
Speaker 1: But Marshaun, you know what these scouts did back then.
Speaker 1: All they cared about is there damn Marriott points. They
Speaker 1: all stayed in Marriott's because they all want to get
Speaker 1: their damn points. And Adam's probably how many points of
Speaker 1: Marriots you have right now, Adam, I use them all.
Speaker 6: Some guys liked them and they keep them forever. But
Speaker 6: I would.
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 7: I'd get like a million points in a year and
Speaker 7: then I would just use them all in the summer
Speaker 7: for like my summer vacation. But some guys have like
Speaker 7: tens of millions where they just sort them and I
Speaker 7: don't know why they're going to use them, but I
Speaker 7: would just I would just blow it all every summer.
Speaker 1: So the cool thing, Adam for the listeners is that
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's thirty two GM jobs in
Speaker 1: the world. Okay, it's probably one of the most coveted
Speaker 1: things in the world. So for twenty some odd years
Speaker 1: you were banging from New England to Denver to the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and last year you got named the
Speaker 1: general manager, which is the the kreme de la crem
Speaker 1: in terms of a football other than owning a team,
Speaker 1: it's the GM. Did you ever think that day was
Speaker 1: not going to come? In terms of all the stuff
Speaker 1: you went through, the grinds, the drives, the battles, the
Speaker 1: late night dinners, the waffle houses, all the stuff you
Speaker 1: went through, did you ever think that day wasn't going
Speaker 1: to come.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I always wanted to come.
Speaker 7: But there was times, yeah, for sure, where I was
Speaker 7: worried and I was like, man, I'm not gonna You
Speaker 7: always have bumps in the road, right, you know, through
Speaker 7: your school life, through your career, through your playing life,
Speaker 7: and so there was a lot of times where you know,
Speaker 7: I was really frustrated, either.
Speaker 6: With my performance or the situation or everything.
Speaker 7: But I think what was cool was I was I
Speaker 7: was very, very fortunate to be one with four grade organizations.
Speaker 7: Some started with New England it was like a dynasty
Speaker 7: then and learned how to win and learn.
Speaker 6: How to you know, work really fucking hard. Then go
Speaker 6: to Denver and we were really good.
Speaker 7: We won five Street Division titles, and learn from from
Speaker 7: John Away, from Gary Kubiak, for Matt Russells, some really
Speaker 7: like just really cool people.
Speaker 6: And then getting to San Francisco and being.
Speaker 7: With John and Kyle, and John's like, you know, the
Speaker 7: biggest influence on my life and my career.
Speaker 6: As a man, as a personnel, person, as a leader.
Speaker 7: And so there was a lot of times where I
Speaker 7: was worried and frustrated and everything, but but I was
Speaker 7: really really lucky to be around.
Speaker 6: A lot of great people and me to get this.
Speaker 4: So how they look at your performances based off of
Speaker 4: the players that you recommend, Like, all right, we got
Speaker 4: Marshall and Lynch right here. I think he'll be a
Speaker 4: good fit here, I'll come in. I'm a good fit.
Speaker 4: That's points to you, right yeah. So if I come
Speaker 4: in and I'm ash and I'm trash, then it's like,
Speaker 4: hey man, what what the fuck? You're losing points for that,
Speaker 4: right yeah?
Speaker 7: And it's and there's there's so much that goes into it, right,
Speaker 7: not just how good you are as a player, and
Speaker 7: you were, you were fucking awesome.
Speaker 4: So look, give me to give me, give me the breakdown,
Speaker 4: just and then use me as a player.
Speaker 2: And this is riding on your GM job as you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: If this player worked, then we give you the opportunity
Speaker 4: to at least uh interview for the job. What does
Speaker 4: it look like you got marshn Lynd shitting right here?
Speaker 4: Two thousand and seven draft?
Speaker 6: Yeah, as you and you had all day was your
Speaker 6: draft class right all the way?
Speaker 3: Hold on, Adam, Thank god there was no cell phones.
Speaker 2: But back then too, we ain't gonna get it to
Speaker 2: all of the up.
Speaker 1: I apologize, go ahead at him, I apologize, go ahead
Speaker 1: out hey.
Speaker 6: That goes for all of us. Man, trust me, that
Speaker 6: wouldn't be yeah.
Speaker 7: But you know, so the way we looked at it
Speaker 7: New England is we always valued you know, your versatility,
Speaker 7: What could you play on all three downs?
Speaker 6: So and I cross checked all the running backs.
Speaker 7: So not only did I do all the dudes on
Speaker 7: the West Coast, but I did all the running backs.
Speaker 6: So my number one running back.
Speaker 7: That year was Marshawn and because I knew what he
Speaker 7: could do not only on first and second down, but
Speaker 7: on third down. And you're dynamic in the past game too.
Speaker 7: So you're looking for a guy who fits your scheme.
Speaker 7: It's not so much Shoe is the best guy, most
Speaker 7: talented guy, but who fits your scheme, who fits your culture.
Speaker 7: And the more and more that I've done this, how
Speaker 7: they fit is more important than the talent. Talent's always
Speaker 7: extremely important, but you have to have that mix. So
Speaker 7: finding a guy who fits what you do and fits
Speaker 7: in your locker room and like you're a competitor and
Speaker 7: loves ball and all that stuff that those are where
Speaker 7: we make the mistakes. We don't make the mistakes on
Speaker 7: how good a guy is. You make the mistakes on
Speaker 7: how much he fits, how well he loves it, you know,
Speaker 7: how much of the competitor he is. And that's every
Speaker 7: mistake that we've made is because that I've made is
Speaker 7: the biggest ones.
Speaker 2: Because of that, I can only imagine.
Speaker 1: This is interesting, morshon And I'm gonna ask you this question. Adam,
Speaker 1: looking back to mo Sean in two thousand and seven, Okay,
Speaker 1: coming from Oakland going to cal forget the talent and
Speaker 1: all that, right, forget all that because you know that
Speaker 1: was there. Would you have drafted him to Buffalo because
Speaker 1: you're taking a kid from a different part of the
Speaker 1: country to Buffalo?
Speaker 3: Would you've would you have? Was that a good move?
Speaker 1: And Marshawn's same pulp questioned you, would you've drafted yourself
Speaker 1: to Buffalo knowing that that that organization might not have
Speaker 1: been ready for you back then?
Speaker 3: Adam?
Speaker 6: You first, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 7: I think if I was at Buffalo by the time
Speaker 7: the GM was at the time.
Speaker 1: But Buddy Nicks, No, it wasn't Buddy Nicks, it was
Speaker 1: Marv Levy, Marv Levys, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and rest in peace Dick Jerome.
Speaker 7: Man, they spent a ton of time with you, with
Speaker 7: just a little bit of time with you before the draft.
Speaker 2: Who was that Marph? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Whoever?
Speaker 7: In Buffalo? Like the decision makers did they they fly
Speaker 7: you out? Did you do a thirty visits?
Speaker 6: You do any of that stuff?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I did it all, man, I spend
Speaker 4: a lot of well I spent a lot of time
Speaker 4: with with Marv and.
Speaker 2: With uh dig Jerry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I had to go up there and then
Speaker 4: I did the Combine meetings and all of that ship.
Speaker 6: So yeah.
Speaker 7: So I mean if they spent all that time with
Speaker 7: you and they felt comfortable that you'd be a good
Speaker 7: fit there, then that I think it's just a matter
Speaker 7: how much work you do. I can't like say he
Speaker 7: should or shouldn't have done it. I Mean, that's a
Speaker 7: long fucking away from home, and Buffalo is a lot
Speaker 7: different than the Bay. But you know, as long as
Speaker 7: you have the right culture and the right people, you know,
Speaker 7: guys can thrive in different environments. But you know that,
Speaker 7: you know that that's that's the biggest thing, is understanding
Speaker 7: and putting getting as much information as you possibly can
Speaker 7: to make the best decision and if they did that
Speaker 7: and they thought that and they were true to themselves,
Speaker 7: then that's a good decision. But if they were just
Speaker 7: trying to sell themselves on something and trying to like
Speaker 7: convince themselves as will work and maybe that's not right,
Speaker 7: then that's when you make bad decisions.
Speaker 1: Adam, you'll you'll love this, and then we'll get to
Speaker 1: the combine in a minute. But it's funny. So Marshawn's
Speaker 1: going through all the visits and all that stuff. And
Speaker 1: you know, back then, everyone to wear suits the visits
Speaker 1: and and this this means guys, before the draft, players
Speaker 1: will go in and the teams will bring them in
Speaker 1: for a visit for a day to meet the coach
Speaker 1: and the owner and whatnot. And so I never forget Marshaun.
Speaker 1: I picked you up a cow, woke you up like
Speaker 1: a six in the morning. You were flying to Dallas.
Speaker 1: And I pick him up, drop him off the Oakland airport,
Speaker 1: at him and and and as he gets out, I say, hey,
Speaker 1: what you forgot your suit bag? I throw him your
Speaker 1: soup bag. He took the suit bag, ripped it up,
Speaker 1: through it right back and across. I'm not wearing that shit,
Speaker 1: I said, bro, what do you mean I'm not wearing that?
Speaker 1: He said, and he'd never forget. He said, if Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones doesn't like me for who I am, not what
Speaker 1: I wear, then I don't need to be a cowboy.
Speaker 1: And he told Jerry the same thing. And that was
Speaker 1: the first time a player said I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go through this process and fake it or something I'm
Speaker 1: not comfortable in. And Moreshawn didn't do it, and it
Speaker 1: was such an eye opener for me as a young agent, thinking,
Speaker 1: you know what, how cool is that because Moreshawn drafts
Speaker 1: him for who he is. He's not gonna make put
Speaker 1: a suit on to fake it. And Marshawn was the
Speaker 1: first player really to do that, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's ahead of his time.
Speaker 2: It was, man, that ship was almost career suicide.
Speaker 6: Now it doesn't matter, man, I mean.
Speaker 4: Look well, I mean, you know it's gotta start somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, just just as your process as a
Speaker 4: as a player, I know we're gonna get some young
Speaker 4: players who I mean is probably gonna look at this
Speaker 4: and see, you know what I mean, what what is
Speaker 4: it that a GM look like? I mean, I know
Speaker 4: you said that if you fish the culture and yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean talent is obviously a big deal. Get character
Speaker 4: bo and I mean no particular order. But what does
Speaker 4: that process looked for you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it starts really with you know where I started
Speaker 7: as an area scout in the area of Scouts. Like,
Speaker 7: my job as an area scout when I went to
Speaker 7: cal was not just to know like my point of contact.
Speaker 6: But I knew Coach Googled, I knew Coach Malichick.
Speaker 7: I knew all those dudes right those and I developed
Speaker 7: such relationships with them that way I could have a
Speaker 7: real conversation with.
Speaker 6: Them about who you are. You know, who you are
Speaker 6: as a person.
Speaker 7: What time do you get in like, what do you
Speaker 7: do extra like how much time do you put in
Speaker 7: on it?
Speaker 6: How much do you love it?
Speaker 7: How much have you competitor on the field, you played
Speaker 7: through injuries and all that. So you as an area scout,
Speaker 7: you know your job is to be an expert in
Speaker 7: your area and know fucking every single.
Speaker 6: Thing about Marshaun Lynch.
Speaker 7: And then he brings that back to the college director
Speaker 7: and then we have meetings and the GM So all
Speaker 7: my now, all my information I get from our scouts
Speaker 7: and they tell me in the better the scout out,
Speaker 7: the more they know, because the more people they're type
Speaker 7: with so understanding everything that makes you tick, man.
Speaker 6: Not I mean everything that's their job. What do you
Speaker 6: do tonight? Do your homebody? Do you go out? Do
Speaker 6: you do you have the girl?
Speaker 2: Do you?
Speaker 7: I mean like all that stuff. Do we know everything
Speaker 7: about these guys possible in order to make that decision?
Speaker 7: Like fucking everything?
Speaker 2: So is it the all right?
Speaker 4: Because look, man, I used to think this was bullshit,
Speaker 4: So now it sounds like it's the gms who do this.
Speaker 4: But I would, I mean, I got drafted, and then
Speaker 4: I would come back home, maybe like maybe three four
Speaker 4: years after, and I go to some of you know,
Speaker 4: the same stores that I used to go to as
Speaker 4: a kid. The guy in there used to call me
Speaker 4: Mars Bors. Hey, Mars Bars, Mars Bars. He's like, Man,
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, Man, some people came in
Speaker 4: here asking me questions about you and shit, and I'm like, Man,
Speaker 4: what the fuck is you talking about? He's like, Man,
Speaker 4: I don't know, Man, I don't know. Maybe they was
Speaker 4: with the NFL. I'm like, the fuck out. I had
Speaker 4: no idea. I didn't think nothing of it. But then
Speaker 4: I went to my elementary school and they asked me something.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, more shine. Now you know, I see you
Speaker 2: doing your football ship and whatever.
Speaker 4: But you know, some people came here a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago asking you questions, is it really that deep?
Speaker 7: It's not always that deep, but I think if someone's
Speaker 7: going to spend that much, you know, a first round
Speaker 7: pick some guys, some guys recycled, Like I never did
Speaker 7: the farthest. I would go with high school. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: do an elementary schools. But I know some guys that
Speaker 7: were area scouts with me out there that would just
Speaker 7: like they drive around Oakland and they would they would
Speaker 7: ask people ship. And that's a little like on on
Speaker 7: the stage like that was just like a myth like man.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, so look man, so that ship is
Speaker 4: true because like nowadays, you know, you got well, I
Speaker 4: guess they make it easy now because they got this
Speaker 4: social media ship. How much of that, dude you look
Speaker 4: at when it comes to who I want to check
Speaker 4: this guy out in a little deeper debt, would you
Speaker 4: go and check social media and all that kind of shit.
Speaker 7: Well, we have a team of people that look at
Speaker 7: the social media and all flag This is millions and
Speaker 7: tens of millions of dollars. So you know, whatever we
Speaker 7: spend on that to help us not make a catastrophic decision,
Speaker 7: it's worth it.
Speaker 1: So Moreshawn, that's interesting because you and I talk about
Speaker 1: all the time these owners being impatient and the owner
Speaker 1: is like wanting results. And so you know there's some teams,
Speaker 1: as you know more Shawn in the league that they
Speaker 1: can't find a quarterback. You know, your old team, the
Speaker 1: Raiders can't find a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so Adam here, it's it's fate or whatever you
Speaker 1: call it. He gets to Washington and guess what, he's
Speaker 1: got the number two pick, and who does he get
Speaker 1: the quarterback of? You know, probably the next twenty years.
Speaker 1: So Adam taking me through how how great that was?
Speaker 2: Bucket is wrong. That motherfucker is.
Speaker 3: Wrong, and that would be Jade and Daniel.
Speaker 4: Well, whatever kind of investigating you did, you need to
Speaker 4: if it was the PI that you put on him,
Speaker 4: you need to go put that motherfucker on everybody because
Speaker 4: she he would have found something special.
Speaker 6: He's special, and you know what's cool is and we did.
Speaker 7: We went back to high school, we went back to everywhere,
Speaker 7: you know, and talking about him, and the same it was.
Speaker 6: Ever, the story was the same every time.
Speaker 7: This is a man, this is a competitor, This guy
Speaker 7: loves ball, this guy will do anything to win this.
Speaker 6: I mean it was like you couldn't hear every single story.
Speaker 8: High school coach, Herm Edwards, college coaches, private quarterback coaches,
Speaker 8: you know, guys that play with them like we talked
Speaker 8: to you like you loves him, like I mean, every
Speaker 8: single step of the way, teammates, whatever it is, support staff.
Speaker 6: It was just like, this is this is a dude.
Speaker 6: Now he's he's reserved, he's laid back, so don't let
Speaker 6: that fool you.
Speaker 7: Like this is a fucking dog competitor that will will
Speaker 7: fucking raise the level of your team.
Speaker 6: And that's what he did, man.
Speaker 7: And uh so you got to rely on all those sources.
Speaker 7: But when you hear it over and over and over,
Speaker 7: and it's the same thing that gets you a lot
Speaker 7: of confidence to pull that trigger.
Speaker 1: So you get that, you get this guy at him
Speaker 1: as a as a res a rookie GM and it's
Speaker 1: like you look pretty.
Speaker 3: Good with this guy, don't you.
Speaker 1: I Mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty good get
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's funny. You get like you almost feel guilt because.
Speaker 7: Just so really really really blessed, really lucky that that
Speaker 7: he was there and that it doesn't happen every draft,
Speaker 7: and so yeah, we're very lucky. I feel guilty sometimes,
Speaker 7: but just very happy for our organization.
Speaker 1: No, mar Shawn is it's pretty cool your brother and
Speaker 1: your former teammate, Bobby Wagner and him have become very close.
Speaker 2: And dan Quinn big head.
Speaker 6: As he would love him too. Man, you would love
Speaker 6: playing for d Q, man, he's incredible.
Speaker 2: I did play with d Q.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I played with him as head coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not as a head coach, but yeah, we used
Speaker 4: to sit down and he used to throw some defenses
Speaker 4: at me, make sure I stayed on my ship. And
Speaker 4: then he got Bobby over there command and everything. So
Speaker 4: ship that's you know, I mean, I know he got
Speaker 4: some big but I wish you would have brought Cable
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Now, we we talked to him. We talked to
Speaker 6: he was integrated.
Speaker 2: Man, Cable because them too, they tight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a good good talk with him.
Speaker 4: But Cable might be too just a little bit too
Speaker 4: gangster for y'all up there right now, man, y'all probably
Speaker 4: gotta get you'all feet. We then come bring in at
Speaker 4: pind the cable up here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So, Adam, it's interesting we you know as actually you
Speaker 1: know a year ago today you saw j Deannis the
Speaker 1: first time and we're actually out the scouting combine in Indy.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've been here for six days
Speaker 1: and I think I've lost about.
Speaker 3: Five years in my life.
Speaker 1: I got actually I went to go get an IV today, truthfully,
Speaker 1: and the place was closed.
Speaker 3: I was kind of pissed off.
Speaker 1: What people don't understand is that, you know, they look
Speaker 1: at the combine at them, and they see the stuff
Speaker 1: on TV, the forty yard dashes, they see the broad
Speaker 1: jumps all that. What nobody understands is the seven days
Speaker 1: of what we go through here as an agent, as
Speaker 1: a former player in a GM. And you know, from
Speaker 1: my perspective, it's funny. I'll never forget is my thirty
Speaker 1: second year at the Combine, thirty second year here. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget early on in the process back then, you know,
Speaker 1: you went from the combine right there free agency. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget Marshaan, like ninety five, I was doing a deal,
Speaker 1: and I met this guy named Bill Pollie and the
Speaker 1: former GM of the Colts, who was an old school guy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He said, hey, meet me at eight o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Well the night before I'm out drinking, partying, and I
Speaker 1: know what to expect. I meet this guy out and
Speaker 1: he's ready to get a deal done. I had no
Speaker 1: idea what I was doing. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I said, mister Polly, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to get back to you when I get back. I
Speaker 1: had no clue how to get a deal done eight
Speaker 1: in the morning back then. But the combine atom has
Speaker 1: evolved to now this massive week of you know, financial
Speaker 1: advisors are here, businesses are here, equipment companies, interviews, the
Speaker 1: whole deal. But it's a huge job, fair for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. But take me through quickly outam, how
Speaker 1: this has changed from when you started it now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's a huge thing. It's a when
Speaker 6: they say a tent pole event for the NFL. It's
Speaker 6: a big big deal now and I mean it's on TV,
Speaker 6: and it didn't you speak on TV.
Speaker 7: You used to speak out free for all, like when
Speaker 7: I first started, when you were a scouting assistant. When
Speaker 7: it started at like, in order to interview players, you
Speaker 7: had to like fight for guys.
Speaker 6: It wasn't organized. There wasn't formal interviews or anything.
Speaker 7: So you'd be fighting other scouting assistants to get interview
Speaker 7: these guys for your coaches.
Speaker 6: There would be fist fights, there would be like guys.
Speaker 7: Pushing, punching, yelling, Like I had a guy like chasing
Speaker 7: after me for like three days that took the guy
Speaker 7: that he wanted in order to interview for our coaches.
Speaker 6: So a lots of change. It's a lot more organized.
Speaker 7: It's a lot bigger event, like you said, but there
Speaker 7: was no I mean, there was no fanfare to it
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 1: Well, out of speaking of fights, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you heard this mor sewn, there was a fight last
Speaker 1: night or the night before in Indy between two media members,
Speaker 1: Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport got in a fight, ironically
Speaker 1: at a Starbucks. And Jordan's dad is, I can't make
Speaker 1: this up, bro. They got in a fight at a Starbucks? Yes,
Speaker 1: because they were they got I don't know what what,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but these motherfuckers getting a
Speaker 1: fight at a Starbucks at four o'clock in the afternoon
Speaker 1: during the combat.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 4: Yes, man, So hold on, do they still I mean
Speaker 4: I can remember they They was measuring every goddamn thing
Speaker 4: on this.
Speaker 2: They measure your hand like that, They measure every fuck
Speaker 2: like this in.
Speaker 6: Reach you know, they measure your joints. They measure Yeah,
Speaker 6: they do.
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds like it's gotten even more extensive. I remember, Wayne.
Speaker 6: Span as you do do your arm.
Speaker 7: They just they just introduced wingspan like a few of you,
Speaker 7: like maybe five ten years ago.
Speaker 4: What I mean, I don't ship, man, I just remember
Speaker 4: sitting back there behind this little fucking curtain and motherfuckers
Speaker 4: talking about ut yep. They go to meet and all
Speaker 4: you can hear and from out the crowd is like
Speaker 4: I mean, the it was like an auditorium. I guess
Speaker 4: with all these you just heard Hella righting on them.
Speaker 2: What the fuck going on out here?
Speaker 4: Like, man, they got motherfuckers on the chopping block, Like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck going on?
Speaker 3: Sean.
Speaker 1: The funniest part is that these guys get you know,
Speaker 1: they get to interview players for fifteen minutes, as you know,
Speaker 1: or maybe it wasn't back then, but is now and
Speaker 1: I never forget like these these are the meetings. And
Speaker 1: again I'm not going to name any gams or personnel people,
Speaker 1: of course, but they'll ask some young kids, so, you know,
Speaker 1: do you drink, do your part a lot?
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 1: And you know, kids gonna you know, no, I don't
Speaker 1: smoke pot or I don't drink that much, whatever, And
Speaker 1: these guys will kind of get in them like I've
Speaker 1: heard you do this, I've heard you do that. And
Speaker 1: then I see these same gms at two in the
Speaker 1: morning that are damn near passed out in the hallway
Speaker 1: the hotel, can't find the room they're in or there
Speaker 1: they're far and I'm like, listen, you were the fucking
Speaker 1: same guy that grilled my client about partying too much
Speaker 1: as a nineteen year old. You're fifty five years old
Speaker 1: and you can't even make back your room.
Speaker 3: You've been drink drinking so much? Is am I right?
Speaker 2: Adham.
Speaker 7: I've seen guys asleep on the couch in the lobby
Speaker 7: as we're going to the wig ins in the morning
Speaker 7: and there's like everybody's walking by them talking and this
Speaker 7: dude is sound asleep on a bench in the lobby
Speaker 7: because they didn't know how to get back to their room.
Speaker 6: That happens every single year.
Speaker 1: Yet more, Shawn, these guys are then are now downgrading
Speaker 1: players in college for these same things that they're doing.
Speaker 3: So it's a little hypocritical. It's gotten better over time, I.
Speaker 1: Believe at them, right, Yeah, but it's still funny. So, Marshaun,
Speaker 1: here's a funny story. So last year, Adam gets the
Speaker 1: job and there's a steakhouse here called Saint Elmo Steakhouse,
Speaker 1: real famous steakhouse. It's like nineteen forty two, and we
Speaker 1: go there for a big dinner.
Speaker 3: Last year.
Speaker 1: It's a late dinner and it's it's me and Adam
Speaker 1: and six seven other people, and we're sitting there and
Speaker 1: having some you know, having some drinks, not even that
Speaker 1: much food, and so, you know, about midnight, the bill
Speaker 1: comes and the waitress puts the bill next to me
Speaker 1: and I look at I'm like, I'm sorry, I think
Speaker 1: that must.
Speaker 3: Be for the wedding. There's a wedding rehearsal in the
Speaker 3: other room.
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I look up and she's
Speaker 1: still sitting there and she's like, no, this is your bill,
Speaker 1: And I said it was sixty nine hundred dollars, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, we have no bottle of wine.
Speaker 3: None of us even had miy steaks.
Speaker 1: I said, I think this is the wrong check, and
Speaker 1: she's like, no, this is the right check. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: how do you figure? And she's like, well, you ordered
Speaker 1: this tequila and so you know the class Zool, the
Speaker 1: blue tequila that's used like fifty bucks a glass, no
Speaker 1: matter where in the country, maybe it's forty bucks, fifty
Speaker 1: sixty whatever.
Speaker 3: She's like, no, no, you ordered the.
Speaker 1: Classe Zuol Ultro Nueva black bottle tequila. And this was
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy five dollars a glass.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I had like six or seven of them myself.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. And I said no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't order this. She's like, yes, you did. I said,
Speaker 1: all right. Was your manager around and she's like no.
Speaker 1: And so I didn't want to make a big deal.
Speaker 1: So I paid the bill. I come back the next
Speaker 1: day and I said, listen, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the guy that like has the bill. I says, not
Speaker 1: about the money. I got the money, Yes I do,
Speaker 1: mar Sean, I says, not about the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. For me.
Speaker 1: Yes I did. I said, but listen, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I didn't order this damn tequila. And I and he's
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we're gonna check the video monitors.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, no disrespect to Indiana, no disrespect to
Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's.
Speaker 3: Okay, But if I was to.
Speaker 1: Order this bottle, I'd want to be in a yacht
Speaker 1: santra Pe. I'd want this bottle coming out with dancing
Speaker 1: girls and sparklers. I want the bottle at my table.
Speaker 1: I didn't order this damn bottle. So this went on
Speaker 1: for a month. We had to investigate this order, and
Speaker 1: finally the managerer called me back about a month later,
Speaker 1: said I'm sorry, mister Hendrickson, you right, you did not
Speaker 1: order this.
Speaker 3: What should we do?
Speaker 1: And I said, listen, I'll make it easy and he
Speaker 1: charged me one fifty glass. I'll still tip the waitress.
Speaker 1: She was fantastic. Credit me like four thousand bucks. But
Speaker 1: those are the kind of stories that evolved from the combine.
Speaker 1: And that was that was That was a good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to point there, buddy. You got to
Speaker 4: point there, buddy.
Speaker 3: That's some shit, Adam.
Speaker 1: Any any stories like that, you can remember besides that
Speaker 1: one with me last year that.
Speaker 7: Was the most recent for sure. I think I told
Speaker 7: one earlier where I mean I got chasing me around
Speaker 7: all week because the like I'd look over my shoulder
Speaker 7: and this motherfucker be staring at me because I took
Speaker 7: his player that he wanted to interview. And it was
Speaker 7: literally for four days, I had a guy chasing me
Speaker 7: around the whole times. It was really fucking weird, and
Speaker 7: it was like, dude, what are we doing here, Like
Speaker 7: it's not a big deal.
Speaker 2: Hold on it is it still at that it was?
Speaker 4: We was in like I think it was like a
Speaker 4: train station that they turned into the whole.
Speaker 3: Teap same place more, same place.
Speaker 6: This guy would chase me around, the trains still in
Speaker 6: there right now. They don't do it anymore.
Speaker 7: They do everything in the dome now, but it's the
Speaker 7: same kind of thing, but it's a lot more civilized
Speaker 7: the train.
Speaker 4: Station where you ain't got people chasing your ass down
Speaker 4: for your interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: When I was I went to Combine, look I had
Speaker 4: about you know, I was in some I was in
Speaker 4: some ship or I had some shit going on. So
Speaker 4: I had to meet with all thirty two teams, and
Speaker 4: I had to tell that story all thirty two fucking times,
Speaker 4: and I just, oh my god. I remember coming back
Speaker 4: like motherfucker's like, yeah, man, man, I met with like
Speaker 4: five teams, and I'm like, I feel like, what the fuck.
Speaker 6: Kind of man?
Speaker 2: Well? Who? Man?
Speaker 4: I gotta go talk to my agent because I know
Speaker 4: this shit ain't right. What you mean five teams?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: Man with thirty two fucking teams today, Like, man, I'm
Speaker 4: tired as fuck. And then we got to go out
Speaker 4: there and run the show. My man, I was hot
Speaker 4: than a motherfucker, Like god damn.
Speaker 2: But then that's why I tell.
Speaker 4: Doug as he said, well, I mean, you know that's
Speaker 4: the penalty you gotta pay for doing dumb shit.
Speaker 1: It sure is, Marchamp, but guess what, guess what you evolved?
Speaker 1: Just fine, you battle through it. And speaking of the combine, Adam,
Speaker 1: I know you have to run to go go back
Speaker 1: to interview players and to go basically watch some more
Speaker 1: forties and whatnot. But listen, a man, I'm really proud
Speaker 1: of you. You've built an incredible team and you've made
Speaker 1: it to the pinnacle. Okay, now you got to go
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl in two or three or four.
Speaker 6: That's right there. That's the pinnacle. That is the pinnacle.
Speaker 1: You've done it, Bro, and I I just appreciate the
Speaker 1: grind in battle to make it through a junior college
Speaker 1: U c l a walk on grind, your scrapp or scout,
Speaker 1: driving your car through the through the Upper West and
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and now being in the big chair. And
Speaker 1: by the way, he got a good view there. You
Speaker 1: must have a nice suite at him. I think your
Speaker 1: owner might have some money.
Speaker 6: Huh, he's got a little bit.
Speaker 2: He got a couple of doubts. Hey, man, go get
Speaker 2: a deal done with Bobby too, Man.
Speaker 6: I know I just texted him earlier. We're working on it.
Speaker 2: Go get a deal done with Bobby.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: He's hard Marshall, he's a good negotiator, man.
Speaker 2: Real, Yeah, I mean that's my that's my son. Man.
Speaker 1: I read out of here's the deal. Why in closing
Speaker 1: at him? Why don't you get Bobby on FaceTime today?
Speaker 1: Put more Shawn on the FaceTime of Bobby and you
Speaker 1: can you can do the deal with Bobby and Marshawn.
Speaker 4: I want to reach out to him now, but as
Speaker 4: I just seen him over the Super Bowl, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm actually when he gonna hang it up?
Speaker 2: He like, hang it up?
Speaker 4: Oh, man, I ain't going no, God damn. Where I said,
Speaker 4: all right, was s it? Man, go ahead and get
Speaker 4: a deal done with my boy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: He's special, man.
Speaker 4: I know, worry about him. So they used to competition Wednesday.
Speaker 4: They used to like punching at the ball and all
Speaker 4: that shit. And Bobby was young. He was coming up
Speaker 4: trying to hit on me and shit and not just
Speaker 4: telling hey, Bobby, hey, you gotta learn how to practice, bro,
Speaker 4: And I walk away. He looking at me like what
Speaker 4: the fuck is he talking about? He come up and
Speaker 4: do it again. But as he was coming up to
Speaker 4: me and trying to punch the ball, I just stopped
Speaker 4: and I dropped it in front of him. He looked
Speaker 4: at me like, what you doing. I said, I told
Speaker 4: you learn how to practice. Don't be coming up trying
Speaker 4: to hit on me, motherfucker. I gotta to make it
Speaker 4: to Sunday. He like, oh that's what I said, Yeah, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: If I waste all my hits on you, then I
Speaker 4: don't have nothing for Sunday. Like, man, they make me
Speaker 4: do it. Man, you're gonna get me in trouble. I said, well, look, man,
Speaker 4: you either get in trouble during the week or we're
Speaker 4: gonna be in trouble on Sunday.
Speaker 2: How you want to play it?
Speaker 4: He said, Man, I'm finna learn how to practice. He did.
Speaker 2: Man, smart, smartest hell but he.
Speaker 4: He actually he actually is is is Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: one of the greatest that I've seen do it, and
Speaker 4: one that I played with.
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, go take care of my boy.
Speaker 1: Man, go find some more players out him, Go find
Speaker 1: some more players.
Speaker 6: All right, I got one more for you, Doug. You're ready, Yes,
Speaker 6: we'll go.
Speaker 7: Top five Barrier Rappers. Marshan, you're out of this, Dug.
Speaker 7: I don't think you don't.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead more Sean, No.
Speaker 6: It's his Now, I'm gonna see what you got.
Speaker 2: Who I got?
Speaker 6: Who's number one for me? Yeah, wrapping around rapping, I
Speaker 6: got mac.
Speaker 3: Dra number two, Marshawan.
Speaker 4: All now, if you just going, I mean, because it's
Speaker 4: the ways you could go about this.
Speaker 5: I'm a little older than you too, so you know
Speaker 5: you got a little further back you got. He's a mess.
Speaker 5: You got mess for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think the one of the originators
Speaker 7: and and still fucking good.
Speaker 6: Is too short.
Speaker 2: See that's cheating.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean you want to go underground. You want
Speaker 6: to go like rb Oposse.
Speaker 2: You want to go like dra Dogs, like Andre Higgs. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you gotta go dray Dog. You dog for sure.
Speaker 4: Just the fact that you said that, I'll give you
Speaker 4: the pass. You can say one time right now, you
Speaker 4: dog baby?
Speaker 3: Sean? Who else? Give me some mother? Gi me two
Speaker 3: more more? Sean?
Speaker 2: You said two more? Yeah? Where you want to go?
Speaker 4: You want to you want to go into the Bay
Speaker 4: or you want to go in in in Oakland.
Speaker 6: Yeah you can go. Let's go Oakland.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Oakland. I'm gonna go a group.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go two groups, The Loney's in the Delinquents.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 7: It sucks because they're just known for one song, but
Speaker 7: many like it came out, I.
Speaker 2: Mean world wide. They known for one song. But she
Speaker 2: yeah at home. Yeah it's a little different. You know.
Speaker 7: You know one guy that I always think about and
Speaker 7: he's not a he's not a rapper, but he was
Speaker 7: the producer.
Speaker 6: You remember Kyrie. Kyrie.
Speaker 7: See he did all the stuff for mac tre for
Speaker 7: mac mall for like real Love Like.
Speaker 6: He did all the beats. He did all the beats,
Speaker 6: and he just disappeared off the face of the earth.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what I told you, you get you
Speaker 4: get one pass.
Speaker 2: You get one, you get one pass.
Speaker 6: Never using a buddy, you never. Oh, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Okay you really are you really an old school Yeah?
Speaker 4: You really old school Bay Area.
Speaker 1: I respect it, Adam. I appreciate that right there. That
Speaker 1: is that is really fucking cool, bro.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, he had dou I know, look, and he excluded
Speaker 4: you for a reason.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't know any
Speaker 2: of those fucking guys, I got it.
Speaker 6: I love the insane down to E p A remember them. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it might be too old for you.
Speaker 2: Nah, hell no, you're right. You gotta. You got band
Speaker 2: aid and school the hood stars out of E p
Speaker 2: A too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister fab you know obviously toes.
Speaker 4: Out there, uh out out that way was saying oh
Speaker 4: or something like that. But yeah, man, but then you
Speaker 4: start getting back this way. Yeah, that's that's real ship.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I could go younger too, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know any of the new stuff.
Speaker 7: We had a couple of guys on our team, like
Speaker 7: one of ducks clients, Jeremy mc nicholas put.
Speaker 6: Me on some new guys.
Speaker 7: I gotta start listening to that, man, because I'm like,
Speaker 7: I just listened to ship that I grew up with.
Speaker 2: Man, I understand it.
Speaker 4: But you you went and you went in your uh
Speaker 4: you went in your bag, my boy. A lot of respect, man,
Speaker 4: and congratulations on the success that you've been having.
Speaker 2: And I know you because you got to.
Speaker 4: You got a good group over there.
Speaker 2: Really, you got a good group over there.
Speaker 4: I mean with with with with d Q quarterback Bobby
Speaker 4: right in.
Speaker 6: Man, you'd be right. I mean, this is this is
Speaker 6: the kind of guys you like. Man.
Speaker 3: Oh no, we do with Mo Shaun all over.
Speaker 4: I could give you a play, No, I couldn't look that.
Speaker 4: When I came out of retirement for the Seahawks. The
Speaker 4: last time I.
Speaker 6: Remember that was with the Niners, and y'all had him.
Speaker 4: I don't know who the fuck was y'all left d
Speaker 4: n and a big motherfucker, big, big motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: I came out and tried to hit him with that
Speaker 4: little chip before I got into the fucking flat.
Speaker 2: Oh, my whole right side went up.
Speaker 4: Why, I ran straight to the I chipped him and
Speaker 4: ran straight to the sideline, took a knee, like man,
Speaker 4: hold on. These little motherfuckers built different.
Speaker 6: Yeah that was in Seattle, right, that was when we're
Speaker 6: in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, I remember that because we were
Speaker 6: like wondering, why is he not in the game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: My whole right side of my body was numb than
Speaker 4: a motherfuck the game, wondering what Man. I went to
Speaker 4: the sideline for like two plays and I while I'm
Speaker 4: down there on my while I'm down there on the knee,
Speaker 4: they give me water more shan you all right? I'm
Speaker 4: like yeah, you know, just shaking back into it. And
Speaker 4: the whole time I had the fucking epiphany come to
Speaker 4: my mind. Pee, I could be on my couch right
Speaker 4: now watching this game, smoking a blunt with a shot
Speaker 4: of Hennessy, and I'm out here trying to hit this
Speaker 4: big motherfucker light. Oh man, I had to shake that
Speaker 4: ship real quick, come back to terms, like all right,
Speaker 4: let's get back into the game. But then we went
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: They trick so well, Adam, listen, you gotta run, buddy. Uh,
Speaker 1: what a way to end it? On the on the
Speaker 1: Barrier rappers. Man, that's awesome. I appreciate the knowledge. You're
Speaker 1: welcome with more Shawn and Oakland anytime and season.
Speaker 6: Thanks guys, thanks for the time. MANI