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Speaker 1: lost about five years in my life.

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Speaker 2: Man, what's handed? Man? You got Marshawn, be Small Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Doug Hendrickson and Gavin Newsome and you're listening to politickets

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: To be you know to be.

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Speaker 1: So, Marshawn. I you know I got to tell you

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Speaker 1: from the Super Bowl. I see you on national commercial.

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Speaker 1: I see you on a Starbucks commercial. I get through

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Speaker 1: to NBA All Star Week and you're hosting one of

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Speaker 1: the coolest things I've ever seen, a community FanFest event

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Speaker 1: with the entire Oakland and the Bey area coming out.

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Speaker 3: You did it your way, a real way.

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Speaker 1: On top of that, you're also in a little show

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Speaker 1: called Euphoria. Last I checked, it's the number one show

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Speaker 1: in the in the US. How you do so, Marshawn,

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Speaker 1: take me through your will win a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: of all this incredible stuff you've done.

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Speaker 4: I mean, shit, Brice, you can't just go put me

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Speaker 4: on the spot man, Fresh.

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Speaker 3: You know I apologize.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm just saying Fresh. You know how I moved, man, Marshawn.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask, she's something real quicking in a

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Speaker 1: real note. You were close to someone very much uh

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Speaker 1: in your life, the former owner of the Seahawks, Paul Allen.

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Speaker 1: And this past few days you received the Paul Allen

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Speaker 1: Humanitarian Award.

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Speaker 3: Take me through that award and what that meant to you?

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Speaker 4: Man, Look fresh, you're gonna you're gonna have to let

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Speaker 4: me chew on something. You gotta let me eat one

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Speaker 4: time for the one time, man to But to get

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Speaker 4: that award was uh.

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Speaker 2: Was pretty big that.

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Speaker 4: Like, as I was sitting there and me and Babs

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Speaker 4: that I you know, I'm not really good at receiving ship.

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Speaker 4: But then when I seen like my name and it

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Speaker 4: award in his name, that was big for me because, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, towards the end of my career, me and

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Speaker 4: him started to we had we started the conversating. Uh,

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Speaker 4: this would actually respond to me, Like I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: we would have conversations and you know, I could ask

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Speaker 4: real estate or should I be looking at like you know,

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Speaker 4: he he was. He would chop it up with me

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Speaker 4: because everything that I would hear about him was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you know, Paul Ellen, he's no kind of different. You know,

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Speaker 4: you don't really talk to people, and you know all this,

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Speaker 4: that and the third. But I just remember him coming

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Speaker 4: he'd really coming to your event.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: He said he was gonna play as his guitar and

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Speaker 4: know he don't come out right. I'm like, nah, I

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Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we taking shots of patrinity.

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Speaker 4: Remember that Michael Bennett and you had your boy Joe

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Speaker 4: And I'm like they like, man, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Bro? And the nigga was solid to me.

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Speaker 4: So I don't understand, like you know, that was other

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Speaker 4: it made it a little easier to accept that award

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Speaker 4: I want to have a conversation with you. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: all right, cool, I'll be up there one time. Like, well,

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Speaker 4: I'm in the Philippines right now. I think I just

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Speaker 4: I remember getting off the phone like, hey, Fresh, I

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Speaker 2: We gotta go.

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Speaker 4: You're like what, I'm like, yeah, man, Parly just called me,

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Speaker 4: This motherfucker just told me he was in the the

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know that to get that award

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Speaker 1: Everybody. What an incredible day for our politic and guests.

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Speaker 1: We have a former I want to say this same

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Speaker 1: high school as me, different time, the mean streets Mona

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Speaker 1: Vissa High School to junior college to UCLA football player

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Speaker 1: to then scout with the Patriots Broncos forty nine ers

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Speaker 5: Adam Peters guys, owed, what's up, Big Doug.

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Speaker 3: Adam.

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Speaker 1: I just told Marshawn, I keep telling about the mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck mean about them streets.

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Speaker 6: There's a couple of blocks. There's a couple of blocks

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we started getting into where the migos hanging out at.

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Speaker 2: Then you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, Adam.

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Speaker 1: Throughout these last fifteen years, as I was ever represented Marshawn,

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Speaker 3: He's like, dude, mean streets. Come on, bro.

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Speaker 1: But Marshawn, you'll love Adam. Adam is. Adam's like me, dude.

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Speaker 1: He's a state school, public school kid, grinder, scrapper, junior

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Speaker 3: Marshawn, He's been battling for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever heard uh your back down? Your background

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you hear how it done. Just run your

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Speaker 7: My boy, Well, he's like he's kind of bragging about himself.

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Speaker 7: He's just like me. He did all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeeah, you feel well.

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Speaker 1: I got to be honest with Marshawn. I saw Adam

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Speaker 1: yesterday and we had a few. Uh, we had a few.

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Speaker 1: We had a lout this way. We had a long

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Speaker 3: Put it that way.

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Speaker 1: Adam had to go to work, but I had about

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Speaker 3: There was a few right at him.

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Speaker 6: There was a few. You had a lot. You had

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Speaker 4: Hey, my boy, my boy drank like a guppy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to tell you a funny story, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to name the other GM that was there,

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Speaker 1: But there was a gem there Marshawn that came to

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Speaker 2: Hey, I don't think that's something you should be bragging.

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Speaker 7: No, I know, I think what you're telling him about that,

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Speaker 7: But you know what, that happens a lot here, a lot,

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Speaker 7: I actually had a good conversation with him too. Hopefully

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Speaker 7: You know, Like you know, you're not in your regular meetings,

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Speaker 1: Well, Adam, before we get to that, you forget that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really just the function of I didn't know

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Speaker 6: Do, Like, I had zero plans with my life.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't really realize how not good I was

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Speaker 7: in that. I was a psychology major, and there's not

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Speaker 7: a whole lot of cool psychology jobs. It's really beneficial

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Speaker 6: But I wasn't going to be a psychologist, so I

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Speaker 7: So the year after I finished playing, I was bill

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Speaker 6: You ever play for Vienname my Sean.

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Speaker 7: Then my coach at the time was Don Johnson god

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Speaker 7: So those guys kind of all took me under their

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Speaker 2: So he was grinding, dud, Do you hear that? Real grinding?

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Speaker 3: So Adam, all your all your friends leave college.

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Speaker 1: We're making one hundred grand, sixty grand, seventy grand, and

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Speaker 6: It was a hard negotiation. They said, you're making eighteen thousand.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on you you didn't even fly.

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Speaker 7: You drove, drove five days, made a few stops, almost

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Speaker 7: It was cool and a lot of cool people in

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Speaker 7: And you won't remember this, but obviously I knew you

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Speaker 6: That ain't hippie hell man, it wasn't in the hill.

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Speaker 6: It was in the trees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: They wouldn't take them down.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't. They tried it. Yeah, man, look, let me

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Speaker 2: But those trees are still there till this day.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that was like a non negotiable when they built

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they couldn't. They couldn't kill those trees.

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Speaker 4: They say, you building around these trees. These trees ain't

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Speaker 1: What people know back then early on, like what what

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know it's it's it is a grind.

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Speaker 7: And again, when you're in an area scout, you're not

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Speaker 6: Just driving all around in my.

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Speaker 7: Area was huge, like all the way out you know,

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Speaker 6: So I just drive around in a circle wall fall,

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Speaker 2: They don't they don't give you no budget to fly.

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Speaker 6: Not in the area. Scout.

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Speaker 7: Now you just drive. Now you get you get a

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Speaker 7: so i'd get like.

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Speaker 6: Ship what I listened to?

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Speaker 7: I listened to, you know, like this, we can get

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Speaker 4: Well, look, man, you picked the good artist to listen

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Speaker 2: Like god damn.

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Speaker 1: But Marshaun, you know what these scouts did back then.

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Speaker 1: All they cared about is there damn Marriott points. They

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Speaker 1: Marriots you have right now, Adam, I use them all.

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Speaker 6: Some guys liked them and they keep them forever. But

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Speaker 1: So the cool thing, Adam for the listeners is that

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Speaker 1: things in the world. So for twenty some odd years

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Speaker 1: in terms of a football other than owning a team,

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Speaker 1: it's the GM. Did you ever think that day was

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Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I always wanted to come.

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Speaker 7: But there was times, yeah, for sure, where I was

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Speaker 7: worried and I was like, man, I'm not gonna You

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Speaker 7: always have bumps in the road, right, you know, through

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Speaker 6: With my performance or the situation or everything.

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Speaker 7: But I think what was cool was I was I

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Speaker 7: Some started with New England it was like a dynasty

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Speaker 6: How to you know, work really fucking hard. Then go

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Speaker 7: We won five Street Division titles, and learn from from

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Speaker 6: As a man, as a personnel, person, as a leader.

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Speaker 7: And so there was a lot of times where I

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Speaker 6: A lot of great people and me to get this.

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Speaker 4: So how they look at your performances based off of

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Speaker 4: good fit here, I'll come in. I'm a good fit.

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Speaker 4: That's points to you, right yeah. So if I come

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Speaker 4: hey man, what what the fuck? You're losing points for that,

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Speaker 7: And it's and there's there's so much that goes into it, right,

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Speaker 4: So look, give me to give me, give me the breakdown,

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Speaker 2: And this is riding on your GM job as you

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Speaker 4: If this player worked, then we give you the opportunity

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Speaker 4: it look like you got marshn Lynd shitting right here?

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and seven draft?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as you and you had all day was your

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Speaker 3: Hold on, Adam, Thank god there was no cell phones.

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Speaker 2: But back then too, we ain't gonna get it to

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Speaker 2: all of the up.

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Speaker 1: I apologize, go ahead at him, I apologize, go ahead

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Speaker 6: That goes for all of us. Man, trust me, that

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Speaker 7: But you know, so the way we looked at it

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Speaker 7: What could you play on all three downs?

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Speaker 6: So and I cross checked all the running backs.

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Speaker 7: So not only did I do all the dudes on

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Speaker 6: So my number one running back.

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Speaker 7: That year was Marshawn and because I knew what he

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Speaker 7: So you're looking for a guy who fits your scheme.

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Speaker 7: It's not so much Shoe is the best guy, most

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Speaker 7: And the more and more that I've done this, how

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Speaker 7: extremely important, but you have to have that mix. So

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Speaker 7: we make the mistakes. We don't make the mistakes on

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Speaker 7: how much he fits, how well he loves it, you know,

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Speaker 7: how much of the competitor he is. And that's every

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Speaker 2: Because of that, I can only imagine.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting, morshon And I'm gonna ask you this question. Adam,

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Speaker 1: looking back to mo Sean in two thousand and seven, Okay,

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Speaker 1: coming from Oakland going to cal forget the talent and

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Speaker 1: all that, right, forget all that because you know that

443
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Speaker 1: was there. Would you have drafted him to Buffalo because

444
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: you're taking a kid from a different part of the

445
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Speaker 1: country to Buffalo?

446
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Speaker 3: Would you've would you have? Was that a good move?

447
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: And Marshawn's same pulp questioned you, would you've drafted yourself

448
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: to Buffalo knowing that that that organization might not have

449
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: been ready for you back then?

450
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 3: Adam?

451
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Speaker 6: You first, yeah, that's a great question.

452
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 7: I think if I was at Buffalo by the time

453
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Speaker 7: the GM was at the time.

454
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Speaker 1: But Buddy Nicks, No, it wasn't Buddy Nicks, it was

455
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 1: Marv Levy, Marv Levys, yeah.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and rest in peace Dick Jerome.

457
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Speaker 7: Man, they spent a ton of time with you, with

458
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 7: just a little bit of time with you before the draft.

459
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Speaker 2: Who was that Marph? Yeah?

460
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Speaker 6: Whoever?

461
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 7: In Buffalo? Like the decision makers did they they fly

462
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 7: you out? Did you do a thirty visits?

463
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Speaker 6: You do any of that stuff?

464
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I did it all, man, I spend

465
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Speaker 4: a lot of well I spent a lot of time

466
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Speaker 4: with with Marv and.

467
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Speaker 2: With uh dig Jerry.

468
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I had to go up there and then

469
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: I did the Combine meetings and all of that ship.

470
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Speaker 6: So yeah.

471
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Speaker 7: So I mean if they spent all that time with

472
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 7: you and they felt comfortable that you'd be a good

473
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 7: fit there, then that I think it's just a matter

474
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Speaker 7: how much work you do. I can't like say he

475
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 7: should or shouldn't have done it. I Mean, that's a

476
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 7: long fucking away from home, and Buffalo is a lot

477
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 7: different than the Bay. But you know, as long as

478
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 7: you have the right culture and the right people, you know,

479
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 7: guys can thrive in different environments. But you know that,

480
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 7: you know that that's that's the biggest thing, is understanding

481
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 7: and putting getting as much information as you possibly can

482
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Speaker 7: to make the best decision and if they did that

483
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Speaker 7: and they thought that and they were true to themselves,

484
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 7: then that's a good decision. But if they were just

485
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 7: trying to sell themselves on something and trying to like

486
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 7: convince themselves as will work and maybe that's not right,

487
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 7: then that's when you make bad decisions.

488
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Speaker 1: Adam, you'll you'll love this, and then we'll get to

489
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: the combine in a minute. But it's funny. So Marshawn's

490
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: going through all the visits and all that stuff. And

491
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, back then, everyone to wear suits the visits

492
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: and and this this means guys, before the draft, players

493
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: will go in and the teams will bring them in

494
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: for a visit for a day to meet the coach

495
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: and the owner and whatnot. And so I never forget Marshaun.

496
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: I picked you up a cow, woke you up like

497
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: a six in the morning. You were flying to Dallas.

498
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: And I pick him up, drop him off the Oakland airport,

499
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: at him and and and as he gets out, I say, hey,

500
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: what you forgot your suit bag? I throw him your

501
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 1: soup bag. He took the suit bag, ripped it up,

502
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: through it right back and across. I'm not wearing that shit,

503
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: I said, bro, what do you mean I'm not wearing that?

504
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: He said, and he'd never forget. He said, if Jerry

505
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: Jones doesn't like me for who I am, not what

506
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: I wear, then I don't need to be a cowboy.

507
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: And he told Jerry the same thing. And that was

508
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: the first time a player said I'm not going to

509
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 1: go through this process and fake it or something I'm

510
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: not comfortable in. And Moreshawn didn't do it, and it

511
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: was such an eye opener for me as a young agent, thinking,

512
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: you know what, how cool is that because Moreshawn drafts

513
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: him for who he is. He's not gonna make put

514
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: a suit on to fake it. And Marshawn was the

515
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: first player really to do that, which is pretty cool.

516
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's ahead of his time.

517
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: It was, man, that ship was almost career suicide.

518
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 6: Now it doesn't matter, man, I mean.

519
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 4: Look well, I mean, you know it's gotta start somewhere. Yeah,

520
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, just just as your process as a

521
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 4: as a player, I know we're gonna get some young

522
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 4: players who I mean is probably gonna look at this

523
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: and see, you know what I mean, what what is

524
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 4: it that a GM look like? I mean, I know

525
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: you said that if you fish the culture and yeah,

526
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 4: I mean talent is obviously a big deal. Get character

527
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: bo and I mean no particular order. But what does

528
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: that process looked for you?

529
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, it starts really with you know where I started

530
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 7: as an area scout in the area of Scouts. Like,

531
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 7: my job as an area scout when I went to

532
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 7: cal was not just to know like my point of contact.

533
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 6: But I knew Coach Googled, I knew Coach Malichick.

534
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 7: I knew all those dudes right those and I developed

535
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 7: such relationships with them that way I could have a

536
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 7: real conversation with.

537
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 6: Them about who you are. You know, who you are

538
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 6: as a person.

539
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 7: What time do you get in like, what do you

540
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 7: do extra like how much time do you put in

541
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 7: on it?

542
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 6: How much do you love it?

543
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 7: How much have you competitor on the field, you played

544
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 7: through injuries and all that. So you as an area scout,

545
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 7: you know your job is to be an expert in

546
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 7: your area and know fucking every single.

547
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 6: Thing about Marshaun Lynch.

548
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 7: And then he brings that back to the college director

549
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 7: and then we have meetings and the GM So all

550
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 7: my now, all my information I get from our scouts

551
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 7: and they tell me in the better the scout out,

552
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 7: the more they know, because the more people they're type

553
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 7: with so understanding everything that makes you tick, man.

554
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 6: Not I mean everything that's their job. What do you

555
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 6: do tonight? Do your homebody? Do you go out? Do

556
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 6: you do you have the girl?

557
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: Do you?

558
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 7: I mean like all that stuff. Do we know everything

559
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 7: about these guys possible in order to make that decision?

560
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 7: Like fucking everything?

561
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: So is it the all right?

562
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 4: Because look, man, I used to think this was bullshit,

563
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 4: So now it sounds like it's the gms who do this.

564
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: But I would, I mean, I got drafted, and then

565
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: I would come back home, maybe like maybe three four

566
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 4: years after, and I go to some of you know,

567
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: the same stores that I used to go to as

568
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: a kid. The guy in there used to call me

569
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: Mars Bors. Hey, Mars Bars, Mars Bars. He's like, Man,

570
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, Man, some people came in

571
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 4: here asking me questions about you and shit, and I'm like, Man,

572
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 4: what the fuck is you talking about? He's like, Man,

573
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: I don't know, Man, I don't know. Maybe they was

574
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 4: with the NFL. I'm like, the fuck out. I had

575
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: no idea. I didn't think nothing of it. But then

576
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: I went to my elementary school and they asked me something.

577
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: Like, hey, more shine. Now you know, I see you

578
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: doing your football ship and whatever.

579
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 4: But you know, some people came here a couple of

580
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: years ago asking you questions, is it really that deep?

581
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 7: It's not always that deep, but I think if someone's

582
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 7: going to spend that much, you know, a first round

583
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: pick some guys, some guys recycled, Like I never did

584
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 7: the farthest. I would go with high school. I wouldn't

585
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 7: do an elementary schools. But I know some guys that

586
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 7: were area scouts with me out there that would just

587
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 7: like they drive around Oakland and they would they would

588
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 7: ask people ship. And that's a little like on on

589
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 7: the stage like that was just like a myth like man.

590
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, so look man, so that ship is

591
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: true because like nowadays, you know, you got well, I

592
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: guess they make it easy now because they got this

593
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: social media ship. How much of that, dude you look

594
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: at when it comes to who I want to check

595
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: this guy out in a little deeper debt, would you

596
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: go and check social media and all that kind of shit.

597
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 7: Well, we have a team of people that look at

598
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 7: the social media and all flag This is millions and

599
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 7: tens of millions of dollars. So you know, whatever we

600
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 7: spend on that to help us not make a catastrophic decision,

601
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 7: it's worth it.

602
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: So Moreshawn, that's interesting because you and I talk about

603
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: all the time these owners being impatient and the owner

604
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: is like wanting results. And so you know there's some teams,

605
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 1: as you know more Shawn in the league that they

606
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: can't find a quarterback. You know, your old team, the

607
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: Raiders can't find a quarterback.

608
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

609
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: And so Adam here, it's it's fate or whatever you

610
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: call it. He gets to Washington and guess what, he's

611
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: got the number two pick, and who does he get

612
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback of? You know, probably the next twenty years.

613
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: So Adam taking me through how how great that was?

614
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Bucket is wrong. That motherfucker is.

615
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: Wrong, and that would be Jade and Daniel.

616
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 4: Well, whatever kind of investigating you did, you need to

617
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 4: if it was the PI that you put on him,

618
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: you need to go put that motherfucker on everybody because

619
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: she he would have found something special.

620
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 6: He's special, and you know what's cool is and we did.

621
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 7: We went back to high school, we went back to everywhere,

622
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 7: you know, and talking about him, and the same it was.

623
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 6: Ever, the story was the same every time.

624
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 7: This is a man, this is a competitor, This guy

625
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 7: loves ball, this guy will do anything to win this.

626
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 6: I mean it was like you couldn't hear every single story.

627
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 8: High school coach, Herm Edwards, college coaches, private quarterback coaches,

628
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 8: you know, guys that play with them like we talked

629
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 8: to you like you loves him, like I mean, every

630
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 8: single step of the way, teammates, whatever it is, support staff.

631
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: It was just like, this is this is a dude.

632
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 6: Now he's he's reserved, he's laid back, so don't let

633
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: that fool you.

634
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 7: Like this is a fucking dog competitor that will will

635
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 7: fucking raise the level of your team.

636
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 6: And that's what he did, man.

637
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 7: And uh so you got to rely on all those sources.

638
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 7: But when you hear it over and over and over,

639
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 7: and it's the same thing that gets you a lot

640
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 7: of confidence to pull that trigger.

641
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: So you get that, you get this guy at him

642
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: as a as a res a rookie GM and it's

643
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: like you look pretty.

644
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: Good with this guy, don't you.

645
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: I Mean, it's a pretty it's a pretty good get

646
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: in there.

647
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, It's funny. You get like you almost feel guilt because.

648
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 7: Just so really really really blessed, really lucky that that

649
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 7: he was there and that it doesn't happen every draft,

650
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 7: and so yeah, we're very lucky. I feel guilty sometimes,

651
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 7: but just very happy for our organization.

652
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: No, mar Shawn is it's pretty cool your brother and

653
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: your former teammate, Bobby Wagner and him have become very close.

654
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: And dan Quinn big head.

655
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 6: As he would love him too. Man, you would love

656
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 6: playing for d Q, man, he's incredible.

657
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: I did play with d Q.

658
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I played with him as head coach.

659
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, not as a head coach, but yeah, we used

660
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 4: to sit down and he used to throw some defenses

661
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: at me, make sure I stayed on my ship. And

662
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: then he got Bobby over there command and everything. So

663
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: ship that's you know, I mean, I know he got

664
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: some big but I wish you would have brought Cable

665
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 4: with him.

666
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 6: Yeah. Now, we we talked to him. We talked to

667
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 6: he was integrated.

668
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Man, Cable because them too, they tight.

669
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a good good talk with him.

670
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: But Cable might be too just a little bit too

671
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 4: gangster for y'all up there right now, man, y'all probably

672
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: gotta get you'all feet. We then come bring in at

673
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: pind the cable up here, you know what I mean.

674
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: So, Adam, it's interesting we you know as actually you

675
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: know a year ago today you saw j Deannis the

676
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: first time and we're actually out the scouting combine in Indy.

677
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, I've been here for six days

678
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: and I think I've lost about.

679
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Five years in my life.

680
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I got actually I went to go get an IV today, truthfully,

681
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: and the place was closed.

682
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: I was kind of pissed off.

683
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: What people don't understand is that, you know, they look

684
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: at the combine at them, and they see the stuff

685
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: on TV, the forty yard dashes, they see the broad

686
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: jumps all that. What nobody understands is the seven days

687
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: of what we go through here as an agent, as

688
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: a former player in a GM. And you know, from

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: my perspective, it's funny. I'll never forget is my thirty

690
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: second year at the Combine, thirty second year here. I'll

691
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: never forget early on in the process back then, you know,

692
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: you went from the combine right there free agency. I'll

693
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: never forget Marshaan, like ninety five, I was doing a deal,

694
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: and I met this guy named Bill Pollie and the

695
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: former GM of the Colts, who was an old school guy.

696
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: You know.

697
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: He said, hey, meet me at eight o'clock in the morning.

698
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: Well the night before I'm out drinking, partying, and I

699
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: know what to expect. I meet this guy out and

700
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: he's ready to get a deal done. I had no

701
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: idea what I was doing. I'm like, oh my god,

702
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: I said, hey, I said, mister Polly, I'm gonna have

703
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: to get back to you when I get back. I

704
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: had no clue how to get a deal done eight

705
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: in the morning back then. But the combine atom has

706
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: evolved to now this massive week of you know, financial

707
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: advisors are here, businesses are here, equipment companies, interviews, the

708
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: whole deal. But it's a huge job, fair for a

709
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: lot of people. But take me through quickly outam, how

710
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: this has changed from when you started it now?

711
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's a huge thing. It's a when

712
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 6: they say a tent pole event for the NFL. It's

713
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 6: a big big deal now and I mean it's on TV,

714
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 6: and it didn't you speak on TV.

715
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 7: You used to speak out free for all, like when

716
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 7: I first started, when you were a scouting assistant. When

717
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 7: it started at like, in order to interview players, you

718
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 7: had to like fight for guys.

719
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 6: It wasn't organized. There wasn't formal interviews or anything.

720
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 7: So you'd be fighting other scouting assistants to get interview

721
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 7: these guys for your coaches.

722
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: There would be fist fights, there would be like guys.

723
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 7: Pushing, punching, yelling, Like I had a guy like chasing

724
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 7: after me for like three days that took the guy

725
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 7: that he wanted in order to interview for our coaches.

726
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 6: So a lots of change. It's a lot more organized.

727
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 7: It's a lot bigger event, like you said, but there

728
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 7: was no I mean, there was no fanfare to it

729
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 7: at all.

730
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Well, out of speaking of fights, I don't know if

731
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: you heard this mor sewn, there was a fight last

732
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: night or the night before in Indy between two media members,

733
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Schultz and Ian Rappaport got in a fight, ironically

734
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: at a Starbucks. And Jordan's dad is, I can't make

735
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: this up, bro. They got in a fight at a Starbucks? Yes,

736
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: because they were they got I don't know what what,

737
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but these motherfuckers getting a

738
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: fight at a Starbucks at four o'clock in the afternoon

739
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: during the combat.

740
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: How about that?

741
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Yes, man, So hold on, do they still I mean

742
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: I can remember they They was measuring every goddamn thing

743
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: on this.

744
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: They measure your hand like that, They measure every fuck

745
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: like this in.

746
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: Reach you know, they measure your joints. They measure Yeah,

747
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 6: they do.

748
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 4: Oh it sounds like it's gotten even more extensive. I remember, Wayne.

749
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: Span as you do do your arm.

750
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 7: They just they just introduced wingspan like a few of you,

751
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 7: like maybe five ten years ago.

752
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 4: What I mean, I don't ship, man, I just remember

753
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 4: sitting back there behind this little fucking curtain and motherfuckers

754
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 4: talking about ut yep. They go to meet and all

755
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: you can hear and from out the crowd is like

756
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 4: I mean, the it was like an auditorium. I guess

757
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: with all these you just heard Hella righting on them.

758
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: What the fuck going on out here?

759
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: Like, man, they got motherfuckers on the chopping block, Like,

760
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: what the fuck going on?

761
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: Sean.

762
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: The funniest part is that these guys get you know,

763
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: they get to interview players for fifteen minutes, as you know,

764
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: or maybe it wasn't back then, but is now and

765
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: I never forget like these these are the meetings. And

766
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: again I'm not going to name any gams or personnel people,

767
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: of course, but they'll ask some young kids, so, you know,

768
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: do you drink, do your part a lot?

769
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: Whatever?

770
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: And you know, kids gonna you know, no, I don't

771
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: smoke pot or I don't drink that much, whatever, And

772
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: these guys will kind of get in them like I've

773
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: heard you do this, I've heard you do that. And

774
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: then I see these same gms at two in the

775
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: morning that are damn near passed out in the hallway

776
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: the hotel, can't find the room they're in or there

777
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: they're far and I'm like, listen, you were the fucking

778
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: same guy that grilled my client about partying too much

779
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: as a nineteen year old. You're fifty five years old

780
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: and you can't even make back your room.

781
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: You've been drink drinking so much? Is am I right?

782
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: Adham.

783
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 7: I've seen guys asleep on the couch in the lobby

784
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 7: as we're going to the wig ins in the morning

785
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 7: and there's like everybody's walking by them talking and this

786
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 7: dude is sound asleep on a bench in the lobby

787
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 7: because they didn't know how to get back to their room.

788
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 6: That happens every single year.

789
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: Yet more, Shawn, these guys are then are now downgrading

790
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: players in college for these same things that they're doing.

791
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: So it's a little hypocritical. It's gotten better over time, I.

792
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: Believe at them, right, Yeah, but it's still funny. So, Marshaun,

793
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: here's a funny story. So last year, Adam gets the

794
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: job and there's a steakhouse here called Saint Elmo Steakhouse,

795
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: real famous steakhouse. It's like nineteen forty two, and we

796
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: go there for a big dinner.

797
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 3: Last year.

798
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: It's a late dinner and it's it's me and Adam

799
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: and six seven other people, and we're sitting there and

800
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: having some you know, having some drinks, not even that

801
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: much food, and so, you know, about midnight, the bill

802
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: comes and the waitress puts the bill next to me

803
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: and I look at I'm like, I'm sorry, I think

804
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: that must.

805
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 3: Be for the wedding. There's a wedding rehearsal in the

806
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: other room.

807
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I look up and she's

808
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: still sitting there and she's like, no, this is your bill,

809
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: And I said it was sixty nine hundred dollars, and

810
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, we have no bottle of wine.

811
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: None of us even had miy steaks.

812
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I said, I think this is the wrong check, and

813
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: she's like, no, this is the right check. And I said, well,

814
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: how do you figure? And she's like, well, you ordered

815
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: this tequila and so you know the class Zool, the

816
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: blue tequila that's used like fifty bucks a glass, no

817
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: matter where in the country, maybe it's forty bucks, fifty

818
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: sixty whatever.

819
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: She's like, no, no, you ordered the.

820
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: Classe Zuol Ultro Nueva black bottle tequila. And this was

821
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy five dollars a glass.

822
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

823
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 6: I had like six or seven of them myself.

824
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. And I said no, no, no,

825
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: I didn't order this. She's like, yes, you did. I said,

826
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: all right. Was your manager around and she's like no.

827
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: And so I didn't want to make a big deal.

828
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: So I paid the bill. I come back the next

829
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: day and I said, listen, I don't want to be

830
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: the guy that like has the bill. I says, not

831
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: about the money. I got the money, Yes I do,

832
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: mar Sean, I says, not about the money.

833
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. For me.

834
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Yes I did. I said, but listen, here's the deal.

835
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 1: I didn't order this damn tequila. And I and he's

836
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, we're gonna check the video monitors.

837
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: I said, listen, no disrespect to Indiana, no disrespect to

838
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Saint Elmo's.

839
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: Okay, But if I was to.

840
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Order this bottle, I'd want to be in a yacht

841
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: santra Pe. I'd want this bottle coming out with dancing

842
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: girls and sparklers. I want the bottle at my table.

843
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: I didn't order this damn bottle. So this went on

844
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: for a month. We had to investigate this order, and

845
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: finally the managerer called me back about a month later,

846
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: said I'm sorry, mister Hendrickson, you right, you did not

847
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: order this.

848
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: What should we do?

849
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: And I said, listen, I'll make it easy and he

850
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: charged me one fifty glass. I'll still tip the waitress.

851
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: She was fantastic. Credit me like four thousand bucks. But

852
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: those are the kind of stories that evolved from the combine.

853
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: And that was that was That was a good one.

854
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to point there, buddy. You got to

855
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 4: point there, buddy.

856
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: That's some shit, Adam.

857
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Any any stories like that, you can remember besides that

858
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: one with me last year that.

859
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 7: Was the most recent for sure. I think I told

860
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 7: one earlier where I mean I got chasing me around

861
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 7: all week because the like I'd look over my shoulder

862
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 7: and this motherfucker be staring at me because I took

863
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 7: his player that he wanted to interview. And it was

864
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 7: literally for four days, I had a guy chasing me

865
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 7: around the whole times. It was really fucking weird, and

866
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 7: it was like, dude, what are we doing here, Like

867
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 7: it's not a big deal.

868
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: Hold on it is it still at that it was?

869
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: We was in like I think it was like a

870
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: train station that they turned into the whole.

871
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: Teap same place more, same place.

872
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 6: This guy would chase me around, the trains still in

873
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: there right now. They don't do it anymore.

874
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 7: They do everything in the dome now, but it's the

875
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 7: same kind of thing, but it's a lot more civilized

876
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 7: the train.

877
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 4: Station where you ain't got people chasing your ass down

878
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: for your interview.

879
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

880
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 4: When I was I went to Combine, look I had

881
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 4: about you know, I was in some I was in

882
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: some ship or I had some shit going on. So

883
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: I had to meet with all thirty two teams, and

884
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: I had to tell that story all thirty two fucking times,

885
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: and I just, oh my god. I remember coming back

886
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: like motherfucker's like, yeah, man, man, I met with like

887
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: five teams, and I'm like, I feel like, what the fuck.

888
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 6: Kind of man?

889
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: Well? Who? Man?

890
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 4: I gotta go talk to my agent because I know

891
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: this shit ain't right. What you mean five teams?

892
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: Man?

893
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: Man with thirty two fucking teams today, Like, man, I'm

894
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 4: tired as fuck. And then we got to go out

895
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: there and run the show. My man, I was hot

896
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 4: than a motherfucker, Like god damn.

897
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: But then that's why I tell.

898
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: Doug as he said, well, I mean, you know that's

899
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: the penalty you gotta pay for doing dumb shit.

900
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: It sure is, Marchamp, but guess what, guess what you evolved?

901
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: Just fine, you battle through it. And speaking of the combine, Adam,

902
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: I know you have to run to go go back

903
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: to interview players and to go basically watch some more

904
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: forties and whatnot. But listen, a man, I'm really proud

905
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: of you. You've built an incredible team and you've made

906
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: it to the pinnacle. Okay, now you got to go

907
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl in two or three or four.

908
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 6: That's right there. That's the pinnacle. That is the pinnacle.

909
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: You've done it, Bro, and I I just appreciate the

910
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: grind in battle to make it through a junior college

911
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: U c l a walk on grind, your scrapp or scout,

912
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: driving your car through the through the Upper West and

913
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and now being in the big chair. And

914
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: by the way, he got a good view there. You

915
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: must have a nice suite at him. I think your

916
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: owner might have some money.

917
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 6: Huh, he's got a little bit.

918
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: He got a couple of doubts. Hey, man, go get

919
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: a deal done with Bobby too, Man.

920
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 6: I know I just texted him earlier. We're working on it.

921
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Go get a deal done with Bobby.

922
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: Man.

923
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 6: He's hard Marshall, he's a good negotiator, man.

924
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: Real, Yeah, I mean that's my that's my son. Man.

925
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: I read out of here's the deal. Why in closing

926
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: at him? Why don't you get Bobby on FaceTime today?

927
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: Put more Shawn on the FaceTime of Bobby and you

928
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: can you can do the deal with Bobby and Marshawn.

929
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: I want to reach out to him now, but as

930
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: I just seen him over the Super Bowl, I'm like,

931
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: I'm actually when he gonna hang it up?

932
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: He like, hang it up?

933
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: Oh, man, I ain't going no, God damn. Where I said,

934
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: all right, was s it? Man, go ahead and get

935
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 4: a deal done with my boy.

936
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: Man.

937
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: He's special, man.

938
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: I know, worry about him. So they used to competition Wednesday.

939
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 4: They used to like punching at the ball and all

940
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: that shit. And Bobby was young. He was coming up

941
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: trying to hit on me and shit and not just

942
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 4: telling hey, Bobby, hey, you gotta learn how to practice, bro,

943
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: And I walk away. He looking at me like what

944
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: the fuck is he talking about? He come up and

945
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 4: do it again. But as he was coming up to

946
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: me and trying to punch the ball, I just stopped

947
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: and I dropped it in front of him. He looked

948
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: at me like, what you doing. I said, I told

949
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: you learn how to practice. Don't be coming up trying

950
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: to hit on me, motherfucker. I gotta to make it

951
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: to Sunday. He like, oh that's what I said, Yeah, motherfucker.

952
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: If I waste all my hits on you, then I

953
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 4: don't have nothing for Sunday. Like, man, they make me

954
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 4: do it. Man, you're gonna get me in trouble. I said, well, look, man,

955
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: you either get in trouble during the week or we're

956
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 4: gonna be in trouble on Sunday.

957
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: How you want to play it?

958
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: He said, Man, I'm finna learn how to practice. He did.

959
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: Man, smart, smartest hell but he.

960
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 4: He actually he actually is is is Yeah, I mean

961
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: one of the greatest that I've seen do it, and

962
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: one that I played with.

963
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, man, go take care of my boy.

964
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: Man, go find some more players out him, Go find

965
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: some more players.

966
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 6: All right, I got one more for you, Doug. You're ready, Yes,

967
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: we'll go.

968
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 7: Top five Barrier Rappers. Marshan, you're out of this, Dug.

969
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 7: I don't think you don't.

970
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead more Sean, No.

971
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 6: It's his Now, I'm gonna see what you got.

972
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: Who I got?

973
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 6: Who's number one for me? Yeah, wrapping around rapping, I

974
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 6: got mac.

975
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 3: Dra number two, Marshawan.

976
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: All now, if you just going, I mean, because it's

977
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: the ways you could go about this.

978
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 5: I'm a little older than you too, so you know

979
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 5: you got a little further back you got. He's a mess.

980
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: You got mess for sure.

981
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think the one of the originators

982
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 7: and and still fucking good.

983
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 6: Is too short.

984
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: See that's cheating.

985
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 6: Well, I mean you want to go underground. You want

986
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 6: to go like rb Oposse.

987
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: You want to go like dra Dogs, like Andre Higgs. Yeah, yeah,

988
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: you gotta go dray Dog. You dog for sure.

989
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 4: Just the fact that you said that, I'll give you

990
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 4: the pass. You can say one time right now, you

991
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 4: dog baby?

992
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: Sean? Who else? Give me some mother? Gi me two

993
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: more more? Sean?

994
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: You said two more? Yeah? Where you want to go?

995
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 4: You want to you want to go into the Bay

996
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 4: or you want to go in in in Oakland.

997
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 6: Yeah you can go. Let's go Oakland.

998
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: I want to go to Oakland. I'm gonna go a group.

999
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go two groups, The Loney's in the Delinquents.

1000
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 6: Man.

1001
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 7: It sucks because they're just known for one song, but

1002
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: many like it came out, I.

1003
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Mean world wide. They known for one song. But she

1004
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: yeah at home. Yeah it's a little different. You know.

1005
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 7: You know one guy that I always think about and

1006
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 7: he's not a he's not a rapper, but he was

1007
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 7: the producer.

1008
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 6: You remember Kyrie. Kyrie.

1009
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: See he did all the stuff for mac tre for

1010
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 7: mac mall for like real Love Like.

1011
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 6: He did all the beats. He did all the beats,

1012
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 6: and he just disappeared off the face of the earth.

1013
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what I told you, you get you

1014
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: get one pass.

1015
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: You get one, you get one pass.

1016
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 6: Never using a buddy, you never. Oh, I appreciate it.

1017
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 4: Okay you really are you really an old school Yeah?

1018
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 4: You really old school Bay Area.

1019
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: I respect it, Adam. I appreciate that right there. That

1020
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: is that is really fucking cool, bro.

1021
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: I love that.

1022
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1023
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: Hey, he had dou I know, look, and he excluded

1024
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 4: you for a reason.

1025
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't know any

1026
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: of those fucking guys, I got it.

1027
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 6: I love the insane down to E p A remember them. Yeah,

1028
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 6: it might be too old for you.

1029
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: Nah, hell no, you're right. You gotta. You got band

1030
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: aid and school the hood stars out of E p

1031
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: A too.

1032
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister fab you know obviously toes.

1033
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 4: Out there, uh out out that way was saying oh

1034
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: or something like that. But yeah, man, but then you

1035
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: start getting back this way. Yeah, that's that's real ship.

1036
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I could go younger too, but yeah,

1037
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 4: I don't know any of the new stuff.

1038
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 7: We had a couple of guys on our team, like

1039
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 7: one of ducks clients, Jeremy mc nicholas put.

1040
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 6: Me on some new guys.

1041
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 7: I gotta start listening to that, man, because I'm like,

1042
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 7: I just listened to ship that I grew up with.

1043
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: Man, I understand it.

1044
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: But you you went and you went in your uh

1045
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 4: you went in your bag, my boy. A lot of respect, man,

1046
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: and congratulations on the success that you've been having.

1047
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: And I know you because you got to.

1048
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: You got a good group over there.

1049
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: Really, you got a good group over there.

1050
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: I mean with with with with d Q quarterback Bobby

1051
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: right in.

1052
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 6: Man, you'd be right. I mean, this is this is

1053
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 6: the kind of guys you like. Man.

1054
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Oh no, we do with Mo Shaun all over.

1055
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: I could give you a play, No, I couldn't look that.

1056
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: When I came out of retirement for the Seahawks. The

1057
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: last time I.

1058
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 6: Remember that was with the Niners, and y'all had him.

1059
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 4: I don't know who the fuck was y'all left d

1060
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 4: n and a big motherfucker, big, big motherfucker.

1061
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1062
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 4: I came out and tried to hit him with that

1063
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: little chip before I got into the fucking flat.

1064
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh, my whole right side went up.

1065
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: Why, I ran straight to the I chipped him and

1066
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 4: ran straight to the sideline, took a knee, like man,

1067
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 4: hold on. These little motherfuckers built different.

1068
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 6: Yeah that was in Seattle, right, that was when we're

1069
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 6: in Seattle. Yeah, yeah, I remember that because we were

1070
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 6: like wondering, why is he not in the game?

1071
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that motherfucker.

1072
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 4: My whole right side of my body was numb than

1073
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: a motherfuck the game, wondering what Man. I went to

1074
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: the sideline for like two plays and I while I'm

1075
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: down there on my while I'm down there on the knee,

1076
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: they give me water more shan you all right? I'm

1077
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: like yeah, you know, just shaking back into it. And

1078
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 4: the whole time I had the fucking epiphany come to

1079
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: my mind. Pee, I could be on my couch right

1080
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: now watching this game, smoking a blunt with a shot

1081
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 4: of Hennessy, and I'm out here trying to hit this

1082
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 4: big motherfucker light. Oh man, I had to shake that

1083
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,959
Speaker 4: ship real quick, come back to terms, like all right,

1084
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 4: let's get back into the game. But then we went

1085
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean.

1086
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 1: They trick so well, Adam, listen, you gotta run, buddy. Uh,

1087
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: what a way to end it? On the on the

1088
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Barrier rappers. Man, that's awesome. I appreciate the knowledge. You're

1089
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: welcome with more Shawn and Oakland anytime and season.

1090
00:48:52,400 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 6: Thanks guys, thanks for the time. MANI