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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast deserves a little bit of credit.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal sitting in for Dan Handis and a

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Speaker 1: lot of heroes that are gonna be joining us later

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Speaker 1: from Indianapolis. But for now, I've got a couple of heroes,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and special guests Colleen Wolf from NFL Now.

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Speaker 1: What is up? How's it going? This is exciting. I

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Speaker 1: mean just last week we broke new ground, uh with

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Speaker 1: our first you know, in studio female guest, Lindsay Rhodes,

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Speaker 1: and now here we have Colleen Wolf. I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of great reaction trendy thing. Are you just saying

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Speaker 1: because like now you're just gonna have girls on because

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Speaker 1: for women? Oh, give me a break. You're we just

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Speaker 1: wrapped up. You just did how many hours on NFL

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Speaker 1: now talking combine, I think something like six or seven

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Speaker 1: Colleen and Elliott Harrison. We're giving live re action for

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Speaker 1: about three hours to all the press conferences on NFL now.

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Speaker 1: People should check it out on Thursday if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this. And then I jumped in and I joined

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Speaker 1: you for about two two to three hours of reacting

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Speaker 1: to all the press conferences. So that's where we are

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Speaker 1: right now, and you're burying the lead because I think

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Speaker 1: everybody should know. Once Greg left the studio, he left

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Speaker 1: a present for all of us, his half eaten banana

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Speaker 1: on the desk. But that was even worse, though it

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Speaker 1: was below the desk. I think that was a power move.

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Speaker 1: I was going to bring it over. Then I felt

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Speaker 1: suddenly thought, oh my god, did I leave that banana there?

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Speaker 1: That is horrible. I'm gonna get grief for it. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, okay, well we have to run up we have.

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Speaker 1: We just ran upstairs to do the podcast. Almost immediately after,

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Speaker 1: to that studio after we do the podcast and throw

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Speaker 1: it out. But this feels like a boatload of excuses.

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Speaker 1: But how are you doing good? Could? I like that?

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Speaker 1: We have news? We have a lot of news, and

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Speaker 1: and we might as well just jump into it pretty soon.

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Speaker 1: Here we're gonna go through all the news from Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: And there was a lot, Colleen, there was so much.

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Speaker 1: There was about I think twenty four press conferences today,

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Speaker 1: and there were a couple of bombs. I thought that

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Speaker 1: were dropped on us all. So the three of us,

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a lot of that news,

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Speaker 1: and then we're gonna call the guys in Indianapolis one

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Speaker 1: by one, so a little different on today's show. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patra Conn Roor, and Dan Hansis will all join us.

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Speaker 1: That'll be today's show. On Friday, we're actually gonna have

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Speaker 1: they'll be doing the show really more by themselves. We'll

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Speaker 1: throw it to them and they'll just take care of it.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he wanted something to say something. No,

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Speaker 1: I just we should introduce them as our in our

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Speaker 1: Intrepid Combine quartet. Oh, there was a lot of great picture.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of great pictures of Mark and

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Speaker 1: and Dan at the Combine today. I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Then in one Mark was literally holding two different recorders

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Speaker 1: tell you what my favorite part of today, My favorite

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler thing from today was during the John Harball

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Speaker 1: press conference and John Harrorball said that he was giving

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler asking him if if bread and chicken counts.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. We'll have to ask Mark about that

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Speaker 1: when we get him on the show. But first TV,

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Speaker 1: let's start with a little news. But right now I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a special guest. Is that me? I like that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even recognize that person. Kudos to TV, because

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, we just put this show together about

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. All right, let's talk

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Speaker 1: with what I thought was the biggest story of the day,

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Speaker 1: and that came from Jay Gruden. He comes to the

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Speaker 1: It seems like Jay Grun's message today came from above him.

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Speaker 1: But also we saw how he kind of flip flopped

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Speaker 1: and the best way to handle this guy is to

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Speaker 1: make him feel like the prettiest girl at the dance.

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Speaker 1: And so let's spend the off season doing that instead

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Speaker 1: of the approach that Gruden took last year, which was

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Speaker 1: being brutally honest. I mean, he is the prettiest girl

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Speaker 1: I think Coleen's got a good point. I believe this one.

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Speaker 1: I see it because way r G three has looked

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Speaker 1: for the past calendar year, he could he could face

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Speaker 1: plant epically in preseason again. Yeah, and you just you

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Speaker 1: wonder about so many different things with this team, in

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Speaker 1: the way that Jake Gruden runs the offense. I have

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Speaker 1: I for I didn't know that he forgot how to

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Speaker 1: not coming back. I know this is painful, TD, aren't

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Speaker 1: you an r G three guy? No? Really, Now, it

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Speaker 1: colleens just jumping in here calling bs on j Gruden

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Speaker 1: bay right away, and you're right now. Jay Gruden leads

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Speaker 1: studying and playing football. Well, what it does is possibly

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Speaker 1: this team, and maybe that's the idea, is to take

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Speaker 1: Our NFL media insider Ian Rappaport reports it'll essentially pay

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Speaker 1: After that, oh yes, great cash after that. You know,

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Speaker 1: disagreeing all day. Well, you know, we don't see eye

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Speaker 1: think he doesn't put up grandiose numbers anymore because Bruce

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Speaker 1: This is pretty cool. There's a lot of stuff happening.

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Speaker 1: But back to Larry Fitzgerald, I think when you say

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Speaker 1: the remedy that Larry Fitzgerald. All he has to do

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Speaker 1: I can certainly see why they would. Basically, my phone

429
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Speaker 1: is open if you want to call about Sam Bradford. Wow.

430
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Speaker 1: I feel like I can't really make a complete evaluation

431
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Speaker 1: of Sam Bradford because he just the injuries kill him

432
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: every season. I need to see a little bit more

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Speaker 1: before I trush him. You sound like a front office

434
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Speaker 1: worker for the St. Louis Ray. They're all gonna get fired.

435
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: They're all gonna get fired because of it. They just

436
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Speaker 1: keep doing this thing again that that is one of

437
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Speaker 1: the more surprising things to come out of this week.

438
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 1: It makes me think they are gonna listen and just

439
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: see what's out there, which makes a lot of sense. Well,

440
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: I think they're not only keeping him because there are

441
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Speaker 1: no other options out there. But I think that's a

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00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: big part of general managers don't um failed to squash

443
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: stories like that without a purpose. I remember, you know,

444
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: at the Combine a couple of years ago, I asked

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00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 1: less Need about Courtland Finnegan whether he was going to

446
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: be on the roster, and I remember he chose not

447
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: to squash it, and it just made it kind of

448
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: clear Steve Smith, Dave Goodleman, Courtland was not going to

449
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Speaker 1: be on the roster, because if he's on the roster,

450
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: it's a guy one of your best players, you just

451
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: say it. And it's if it's your quarterback and he's

452
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: not on the trade market, you just say it. Just

453
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Speaker 1: admitted this is your favorite. Part of the combine is

454
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Speaker 1: getting these gms and coaches to kind of twist in

455
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Speaker 1: the wind on what they're planning. Did notice how annoyed

456
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Speaker 1: I was with all the questions during the combine. That's

457
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Speaker 1: what he was critiquing. Everyone was asking for. Everyone in

458
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is just asking like Philadelphia questions, But doesn't matter

459
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Speaker 1: what coaches that I enjoyed. Everyone's saying like questions about

460
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: how come there aren't more special teams, coaches as heads,

461
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: coaches like wait, how many times do you hear three

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Speaker 1: four or four three? How many times do you think

463
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: today that was? That was a lot. But back to

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Speaker 1: the Rams, I think that they just really realized how

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Speaker 1: bad the quarterback options are right now and that there's

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Speaker 1: really nobody in free agency. It's such a such a

467
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Speaker 1: thin draft that maybe they can't get something for him,

468
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Speaker 1: so they're going to dangle them outre and see what

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Speaker 1: they can get. And there were those reports that some

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Speaker 1: teams would rather have Bradford than Jamis Winston or Mariota.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. Maybe those reports are coming from the rams,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're trying to create some sort of market.

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Speaker 1: That's usually how these things work, or Sam Bradford's agent

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Speaker 1: is trying to create some sort of market. Well, I

475
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people in the NFL think, like

476
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Speaker 1: Colleen does, that Sam Bradford has that sounds it's actually

477
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Speaker 1: an insult. It's not know that Sam Bradford hasn't really

478
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Speaker 1: gotten an opportunity to say whether he's the answer or

479
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: not the answer definitive, definitively, and he does have an

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Speaker 1: arm that scouts drool over. I'm not gonna lie. I

481
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Speaker 1: was actually excited last year to see Sam Bradford and

482
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Speaker 1: to see what he would be able to do on

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Speaker 1: a good team and with a good defense. Excited for that.

484
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Speaker 1: That sounds like the kind of person who sits around

485
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: making up lists of games that I love the NFL,

486
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Speaker 1: And Sam Bradford still does not give me. It doesn't

487
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: move the needle. All right, Another guy with a big

488
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Speaker 1: arm will wrap up the news. This part of the

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Speaker 1: news with Zach Mettenberger the Titans. You watched Tennessee handle

490
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Speaker 1: some questions on him. Chris today, what were your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting to me because a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee and came out with an article that didn't

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Speaker 1: say the definitively either way, but a lot of people

494
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Speaker 1: read that and said, oh, the Titans are committed to Mettenberger.

495
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: And I read the same article and and got that, no,

496
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Speaker 1: we are basically going to keep tabs on Marioda and

497
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: Winston and we'll make a decision later. And their GM

498
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: said today, look, we're not committed to Zach Mettenberger, which

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Speaker 1: is no shock to me because I know that Greg

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Speaker 1: Costell and Mike Mayock love this guy, and I that

501
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: it makes me scratch my head. I saw nothing great

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Speaker 1: out of him for the Titans. I mean, he wasn't terrible.

503
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: He now I disagree. I think he was better. I

504
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: think he was at least average for a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't move the offense, which was a problem. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I was more surprised that

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Speaker 1: they just came out point blank and said that they

508
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Speaker 1: could not commit to him being a starter going forward.

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Speaker 1: That was something that I wasn't expecting that to me

510
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. I mean, he was a

511
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Speaker 1: sixth r undraft pick that showed some flashes. It would

512
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Speaker 1: seem bizarre to me that they if they had their

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Speaker 1: options closed that quarterback because of Zach Mettenberger. I mean,

514
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Speaker 1: if it would seem totally insane. No, I know, you

515
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: don't want to blow a number two pick. That's different

516
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Speaker 1: than the conversation of is Winston or Mariota Worth takes?

517
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: They need so many things, though, if you're committed to

518
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberger, you're watching a different quarterback than I am.

519
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't see it. Well, let's

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00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: see what quarterback Mark Sessler is watching, because he's at

521
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Speaker 1: the combine in Indianapolis, and he's on the phone right now,

522
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's got all sorts of hot takes on the

523
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Speaker 1: Titan Usually. Oh listen, I mean, there is no end

524
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: to the Titan toppics. Mark, How happy are you to

525
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: extend your work day here um with a phone call

526
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast? This is a dream.

527
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my hotel window. I'm seeing multiple journalists

528
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: impact towards uh bars, warm bars with food and drink

529
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: that I'm up here talking to you guys, So it

530
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: doesn't get any better than this. I had to I

531
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: have to admit when I we kind of decided, oh,

532
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: let's let's try to do this podcast at the last minute,

533
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: one of the little things in my head saying that

534
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's not a good idea was just imagining Mark

535
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Sessler's reaction when he found out the news in Indianapolis,

536
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: grumbling about the boss back in Culver City. I can

537
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: I can hear your enthusiasm. Mark, It's great listen that.

538
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's totally accurate, guys, but we initially

539
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 1: I thought if it could be the four of us,

540
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: like in a room passing a cell phone around forty

541
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: five minutes. This is a much cleaner attempt at this.

542
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we're taking in this to my

543
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: second no instormations money level. So that's what we're looking

544
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: for in general. By the way, on Friday, Mark, you,

545
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: Dan Connor, and Patra what the guys I like to

546
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: call the four Horsemen. You guys will have a nice

547
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: little set up in Indianapolis on a desk and everything,

548
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: and you'll really kick it around. But for now, let's

549
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: just hit on what you thought were the biggest takeaways

550
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: from the press conferences you focused on, And let's start

551
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: with the Browns because that was something else today with

552
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Mike Petton, just him taking a lot of tough questions

553
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of February, he did I talked behind

554
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. That was one of the more uh one

555
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: of the press conference has gotten more people packed in

556
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: and the words Samonic. You know, he's sort of he's

557
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: got his thing where he's not afraid kind of speak

558
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: its mind. He kind of threw the crowds for a

559
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: loop a little bit when they asked him about you know,

560
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: your GM and this whole texting thing with rape Farmer.

561
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: You think he's going to give you a PC answer,

562
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, I was annoyed by it, and he

563
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: basically said that he couldn't even disclose how irritated he

564
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: was the Farmer when it actually went down, So you

565
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: know it was. We went out in the Hollywood him

566
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: later and he basically his whole thing is they they're

567
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: a team that is, you know, willing to acknowledge their

568
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: starting over at quarterback. That Manzel's situation. He went and

569
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: visited with Menzel. They support him, like there that's obviously

570
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say, but they have to go find

571
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: someone else because you know, according to Petton and him

572
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: as a complete wild card at this point, which they

573
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: should Mark. I have to ask you about the Browns

574
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Speaker 1: and Mike Petton today because after he went through everything

575
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: that was falling from the sky on to Cleveland, he

576
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: was asked what positive he can sort of find and

577
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: go forward with, and he had a little trouble finding

578
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: a positive, but he said, changes to the offense. Yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's been probably with trying a month,

580
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: as you could imagine for a guy that had a

581
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: team that was seven and four, you lose your final five,

582
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: and everything that's happened since the season ended has been

583
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: somewhat of a night air. And you know, one thing

584
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: that he said that kind of I thought was encouraging

585
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: if you're a Cleveland fan, is there's a perception of

586
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: this team on the outside. But he himself did not

587
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: buy into it. That they went on a retreat together,

588
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: which is maybe something that our podcast to do. Yeah, well,

589
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: you guys need to do this. You tried to get

590
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: one last year going. You guys went up to Big Bear.

591
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: I did not join you. I wouldn't refer to that

592
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: as a retreat, though, I'm not sure it was healthy. No, well,

593
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: very little when when let's be honest, very little is

594
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: healthy when Wesley and Sessler get together. Listen, that's that's fair,

595
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna just leave it right there. That's a

596
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: fair accusation the bosses made right there. Mark Sessler, by

597
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Speaker 1: the way, were you Colleen noticed something during the John

598
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: Harbaugh presser. She thought, Mark, were you asking um about

599
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: what he was giving up for lent? Did you? Did

600
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: you ask him about your atually typing takeaway? It's like

601
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: ten feet away, But I didn't hear that said that? Why?

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: And she thought you jumped in and asked whether that

603
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: included breaded breaded chicken. And I was like that, that

604
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: sounds like a funny story, but I don't think that

605
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: was Mark. Actually, no, that was that was a follow

606
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: up guy in the crowd because Hard at that point,

607
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, he was feeling it out. He was the

608
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: reporters and those guys were throwing softballs back at him

609
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: and he was just hit him out of the park.

610
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: So well, Mark, I'm I'm sorry you couldn't be here

611
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: on this special Colleen Wolf episode of the podcast. She

612
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: is your spirit animal though, because she immediately asked when

613
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: she got in here, where is the cough button? And

614
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: as the only person that ever uses the cough button,

615
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, I just thought you guys. You guys are

616
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: kind of on the same wave length. Well, I've been

617
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: hacking up a long all day everything number one and

618
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: you're like l A. You guys could be on like

619
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: l A local news where you on TV. It was

620
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: wall to wall coverage. There was a moment where we

621
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: were just waiting for Jason Garrett to show up, Like

622
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: I've seen twenty minutes of just spitballing about the cowboys

623
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: that I did started to identify with what must happen

624
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: during the car chases in l A when they're just

625
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: kind of making up things like a car crash. I

626
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: want to see this. I have not watched a minute

627
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: of it, but I'm gonna you know, I'm not the

628
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: entire thing in my house, and I'm gonna watch the

629
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: entire seven hour episodes like at Home. Alright, it's already

630
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: been destroyed. We we release you into the Indianapolis night. Marco,

631
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: have have fun tonight, and uh, I'll talk to you

632
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: and you'll be on the podcast on Friday. I look

633
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: forward to Wait, am I getting out of this? Have

634
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: I said anything informative? Yeah, we just talked about the Browns.

635
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have any big time football newsy

636
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: things you want to give me right now, I mean

637
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: we're always ready for that. No, I'm working like I'm

638
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: working on some sources tonight. Let's talk in the morning. Okay,

639
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: sounds good. Alright. Uh, we're gonna keep the rolodex going here,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring in really one of the leaders

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Speaker 1: of the around the NFL group, I would say, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Patra Manature. Well, I would say, you know, there's only

643
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: six of us, so we're all leaders to some degree.

644
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: Before we get to that, though, we haven't done this

645
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: in a while. Had Mark on and I think it's

646
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: a good sound to bring this back, So here he goes.

647
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: They took his team vicious sleep below average. He stole

648
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: his innocence childlike, but not to suggest innocence or purity.

649
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: They made a football life about his misery control, all

650
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: to lead a moment of factory up sadness that never closed.

651
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: Now the client is right for revenge. This winter, there's

652
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: a hurricane coming for anyone who looks in his direction

653
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: on a Sunday, It'll be an apocalyptic sunset. Lark Sister,

654
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: quiet Store. This show cannot end fast enough. And I

655
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: have a sharply worded letter to nd friend that is

656
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: the best thing. That is really everyone's finest moment. Dan

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00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: with an amazing job voice in a TV producing And

658
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: of course the Quiet Storm, which, let's be honest, right now,

659
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the winter has arrived there in Indianapolis. There's a quiet

660
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: storm going around Indianapolis tonight, in the next few nights. Oh,

661
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they're prepared for what

662
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler has to bring in that city. I don't

663
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: know if it's very quiet. No, it's quiet. It's a

664
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: simmer It's silly, but it's quiet. It's simmering. Alright. Well,

665
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: one man who can really tell us about all the

666
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: activities that Mark is up to this week? Is is

667
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick coming? Atra? It's good to have you on

668
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: the phone. What's going on? Kevin? Hey Fellas, what's up? Mante?

669
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Do you even know Colleen Wolf? I mean, I know

670
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: you know we're on Twitter, but have you ever met

671
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf? She's on the podcast Never I have never

672
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: once met Colleen Wolf in person Alright, well, this is

673
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: your introduction. It's Chris, it's Colleen and and myself talking

674
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: to you right now. What's up, pleasure, what's going on? Well,

675
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: you tell us you had some of the good assignments

676
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: today in terms of press conferences. Let's start with Gary Kubiak.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you took him number one in the

678
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: press conference draft last night. Uh, the guys were dividing

679
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: up who gets which press conference. I love this game.

680
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: This sounds great. Right, Patrick had the one pick and

681
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: he took Kubiak. That's a little surprising, but there was

682
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: a lot of news there there. Well let's put it.

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00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: Let me first explain my pick. First of all, I

684
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: decided to break up my draft in quadrants. I knew

685
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: I wanted Martin made you later in the day, so

686
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to pick someone in the early quadrant so

687
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: that I could space out when I when my pressers

688
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: were taking place, so I could be done riding before

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I got to the next one. So I did not

690
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: want the first two presses of the day because those

691
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: were in the first fifteen minutes. You know, if we

692
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: running a little late, you never know. So I figured

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Speaker 1: ten thirty, Gary Kubiak, were you're supposed to show up,

694
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: they're really ready to go around nine or something. Well,

695
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: we were, but you never know. You just don't know.

696
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: You got to plan ahead. Okay, Well, did Kubiak live

697
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: up to the billing? Did Easy say anything? Yeah? I mean,

698
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: as far as he's concerned, everyone's healthy as they as

699
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: a horse, and everything's great to go. He did say

700
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: that he talked to Ayton and he said he thinks

701
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: Payton's doing well and getting health. He did confirm that

702
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Peyton has seen two different doctors or he didn't stisfy

703
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: exactly who he saw in UM New Orleans, and then

704
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: he suggested one might be in Florida, somewhere in Miami. UM,

705
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: but he he sounded optimistic. He was asked about him

706
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Peyton in the offense, he said, there's no doubt I

707
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: want Peyton to be the quarterback um of this of

708
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: his teams. So everything from that angle sounded like it

709
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: was a match main in heaven. And then he went

710
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: on to talk about Wes Welker and then back to Peyton, maning,

711
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: did he satisfy any questions you have, Kevin Patrick that

712
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning will be under center in Week one for

713
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Yes, I think so. His confidence, I mean

714
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: his confidence coupled with everything we've heard about about Manning

715
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: last week or so. I mean, I don't see how

716
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: any way around it. And still dubious of this entire thing.

717
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: I heard him on our air today. I am too.

718
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: May the point this was an interesting point that when

719
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was a free agent in two thousand twelve,

720
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: one of the people with the Texans who did not

721
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: want Peyton Manning was Gary Kubiak, who prefer Matt So

722
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: who will their starting quarterback be? Then, well, you're not

723
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: going with Patris convinced that it's Manning. I think it

724
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 1: will be too. Greg's dubious rap sheet is dubious. I

725
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: think that it would be the craziest thing ever. But

726
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: what if Jake Cutler is the starting quarterback of the

727
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Brons in Chicago? I I know. If the thing is

728
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: though every day that they keep piling up these quotes,

729
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: it just it does make it seem like, Wow, if

730
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning really does leave and they don't want him,

731
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: like what a ridiculous sideshow? This has all been go ahead.

732
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: One comment that I was gonna make when I saw

733
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: your tweet West about what raps you reported his no

734
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: doubt I want him comment almost made more sense in

735
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the context of that, like trying to almost before that,

736
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, deny that he didn't want him before and

737
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: now he definitely does. That's that's the context I took

738
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: it in, so you see it. Maybe they're trying to

739
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: sell Manning a little. I still think if they try

740
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: to ask him to take a paycut, he's gone, and

741
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: and no one's really explained to me why they can't

742
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: just say right now, it's over with, he's the quarterback,

743
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: Like okay, they keep saying these things that make it

744
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: sound like he's the quarterback, but not for sure. Let's

745
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: let's move on though, to talk about your team, the Lions, quickly.

746
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Any takeaways on Martin Mayhew's conversation about in Dominican Sue.

747
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same thing we've been hearing regurgitated

748
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: in different forms for the past months. Actually, he said

749
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: almost something similar a year ago that he's very optimistic

750
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: that he would get it done. Is what his words today. Um,

751
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. I definitely don't

752
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: think they are going to get it done before free

753
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: agency starts. He left the door open for the tag.

754
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I think that that's a ludicrous and b I think

755
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: he's think through his teeth there. I don't see that

756
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: happening before March. Second. I'm as just as skeptical as

757
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: Patrick is, and I think it's interesting that Sue's camp

758
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: hasn't said anything this whole time, and everything the Lions

759
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: say is ridiculously optimistic. Maybe you're right. Maybe I've been

760
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: following for it the last month because I kind of

761
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: left the season figuring out Sue's gone, and then everything

762
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: coming out of Detroit, including the team's website, which always

763
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: makes me I think there's something to it, has been

764
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: really optimistic that he would be back. Do we really

765
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: believe in the seven million dollar franchise tag. I can't

766
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: see them doing that, and Sue has all the leverage here.

767
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: The thing that I would say with the franchise tack,

768
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: I almost think the reason we haven't heard from Sueze

769
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: camp is they're daring in the tag because I'll pay

770
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: for play for twenty seven million. We'll come right back

771
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: here next year. We'll do the same dance you would

772
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: play for a lot less than that, Kevin Patrick. Yeah,

773
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: and I think I'm speaking as Sue. By the way,

774
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm showing your head shot right now to college. And

775
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: the last the last sentence in your in your profile.

776
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Kevin, it says

777
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: it says he is more handsome than he appears. Kevin,

778
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: did you write that? I did not? As an anti

779
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: fenel and special? Do you do you think do you

780
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: think he's more handsome than the stays? Curious? You know?

781
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: Do you think Dan's a big fan? All right? Kevin? Uh,

782
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: you guys will do your show on Friday, so look

783
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: forward to hearing what you say then. Until then, huh,

784
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: have some fun at your first Combine experience. Appreciate it.

785
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: And handsome. We're trying to bring people together here. Colleen

786
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: needs friends. Patra, you know, he lives in Chicago, So

787
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: I guess that that doesn't work, doesn't really work for

788
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Lady Westling. Yeah, that's true, Lady west Maybe Colleen, you

789
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: know we can help my department. We we did kind

790
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: of do a shout out to everyone's gonna kill me

791
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: because I'm constantly like, wow, my roommates single. Well, alright, alright,

792
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: I like that I like that kind of party. All right,

793
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: let's call up Connor or the third Horseman here on

794
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: the phone today. Connor Or, how's it going. What's happening?

795
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: No ghosts in the background today, You're you're out of

796
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: the haunted mansion. I know, man, the Western is is

797
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: great and it's not haunted. It's fantastic. How is Indianapolis

798
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: right now? By the way, I gotta admit I am

799
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: kind of happy not to relive what are what our

800
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: friend Henry Hodgson uh calls Groundhog Day, which is the

801
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: carbine every year. It just feels like the exact same

802
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: thing every year. I'm kind of kind of like being

803
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: in l A this year. Yeah, I mean it's it's

804
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: negative seven with the wind chill um. Yeah, I'm handling

805
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: it a lot better than your than your soft California

806
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: from me, but I feel like, you know, but it's

807
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: it's great, man. I mean, this is I think like

808
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: the tenth time I've come here, not like combining other

809
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: games included. So I'm like, oh, I have the city

810
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: all laid out, like I know where, like where like

811
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: could go, you know, do all that kind of stuff.

812
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: So I always like it here. You are a guy

813
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: that over prepares, which I like, you know, as opposed

814
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: to Wesley just playing with his pen. All right, Carter,

815
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your your John Fox

816
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: press conference thoughts. You were covering the Bears today, and

817
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: they didn't exactly give a lot of warm and fuzzies

818
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: about Jay Cutler. No, I mean he had the chance

819
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: and Ryan Pace that they both had the chance to

820
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: say that Jake Cutler was going to be their starter

821
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: heading into the season. You know, Jake Gruden did the

822
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: same thing with r G three today, but you know,

823
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: Fox and Paste took a different route. I mean they

824
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: said that everything is still under evaluation. And you know,

825
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: at first, Fox didn't even want to admit that he

826
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: had to ship down with Cutler, which I thought was weird. Um,

827
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, the different vibe. He really had to be

828
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: pressed on it to to admit. He's like, yeah, you know,

829
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: I meet with a lot of players. And then he

830
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: finally had to admit that he met with Cutler. So

831
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's a warm and of the situation

832
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: going on right now. I thought. The other thing I

833
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: noticed was their take on Brandon Marshall with his Showtime

834
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: show and sort of people were asking whether or not

835
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: they were questioning where his focus was, and they didn't

836
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 1: really brush anything aside about it. They said that there's

837
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of still evaluating things, but that they weren't really

838
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: high on them. Yeah, I mean John kind of gave

839
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: some sort of generality about how he wants everybody's heart

840
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: to be in it, or he wants them when everybody's

841
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: had to be in it. But you can tell, I mean,

842
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: it's it's basically his way of saying that, yeah, this

843
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: stuff's gotta stop if you're going to be making that

844
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: much money and you're gonna be playing for this team,

845
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: because it ticks off the rest of the guys that

846
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: you're going to be, you know, be able to fly

847
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: out of here every Tuesday when everybody else is coming in,

848
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: still coming in lifting watching film on their own time.

849
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you should be doing. And you

850
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: know he's, uh, I think he's making that clear to

851
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Marshall right now. Greg's biggest takeaway was the RG three News.

852
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway was Jay Cutler and the contrast between

853
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: how John Fox talked about Josh mc down he's the

854
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: kind of guy you want on your football team and

855
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: the fact that after a month of looking at film

856
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: and after meeting Jake Cutler, he and Pace bothfully said,

857
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: we have three more weeks to make up our mind

858
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: and what we're gonna do here. They keep saying, oh, yeah,

859
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: we gotta watch more film. I mean, that's what they've

860
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: been doing. So I hate when they they're always like, well,

861
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: we haven't finished our value. They they've been evaluating Jay

862
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: Cutlery also said there's no doubt about his physical talent whatsoever.

863
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: We have to get to know Jay Cutler the person,

864
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: which is no surprise that you want to get to

865
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: know Jay Cutler the purpose. It's weird because Jake Cutler,

866
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: unlike RG three, is owed a ton of guaranteed money

867
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: over the next two years. This is a guy that's

868
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: getting paid thirty one point five million dollars by the

869
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears unless they find a trade partner for him.

870
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know when they talk about the middle

871
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: of March, we got to make a decision by then

872
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: exactly what they're talking about. I guess they're talking about

873
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: whether they want to put him on the trade market

874
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: or not, because you're talking about, oh, we haven't decided

875
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: about him. What the contract says you have decided. They

876
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: didn't give out that contract. But that's a ton of

877
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: guaranteed money to a guy. They don't really have many options.

878
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: It's like when you're a kid and you're sick and

879
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: your parents are forcing you to take this medicine. You

880
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: don't want to take it. The Bears are forced to

881
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: take their Jay Cutler medicine, but they're just like they

882
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: got their arms folded, they're stamping their feet. They don't

883
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: want to take this Jay Cutler medicine right now. And

884
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: how frustrated must they be considering that they do see

885
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: the talent, they said it today, But the other thing

886
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: that they see is Jay Cutler sitting on the sideline,

887
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: slumped over, not looking at playbooks, not talking to players

888
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: or coaches. He just looks so disinterested, like he's completely

889
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: somewhere else during the games. Well, I think they're running

890
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: the risk of losing him completely. I mean, you know,

891
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: because they see, they saw how disinterested he was in

892
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: a system that was you know, coaches that were hired

893
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: to make him better, you know, And and now these

894
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: these new guys are coming in and kind of just

895
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, turning their backs on him a little bit,

896
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: and I got to believe that if they do need

897
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: to lean on j for any significant time this year,

898
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: that he's probably gonna be pretty disinterested in and helping

899
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: them out. Like I just think I don't blame them.

900
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a bad strategy, but I think

901
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: it's an interesting strategy. I mean, you look at the

902
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: history with this guy. If you don't come in and

903
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: embrace him, he's checking out. Look what he did with Daniel. Yeah,

904
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: but he's gotten a lot of guys fired that have

905
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: tried to help him, and so maybe they're looking at

906
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: it like we don't want to be those next guys

907
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: that get fired because of them, And they're already thinking

908
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: he's football pois, how do we get out of this?

909
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Do you do you think Connor Jay Cutler is going

910
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: to be a member of the Bears this season? That's

911
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: an interesting question. The only thing that makes me think

912
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't um Like, I was listening to what

913
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Lesson he was saying today about quarterbacks and he said something.

914
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: He made a joke about how you know, somebody said

915
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: there aren't that many stones to overturn out there, and

916
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: he said, there are, But when you when you turn

917
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: over the stones, there's nothing to see, and like, I think,

918
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: what do you mean? I mean, there's just no talent

919
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: out there, And I think that another team might really

920
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: be desperate enough to do this, you know, and uh

921
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: and bring him in for for for a spark, just

922
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: because the market is is what it is, right, I

923
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: think the Bears would just listening to them and accounts

924
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: the type of guy you want. I think they would

925
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: certainly give up Cutler for nothing, just for the right

926
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: to give to get rid of him like a seventh

927
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: round pick just hear you take the salary kind of

928
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: like an NBA thing. Uh it is now, I'm kind

929
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: of coming out of this combine with a little bit

930
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: of theme here that there are three veteran, big time

931
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: paid quarterbacks that are likely to stay with their teams.

932
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm leaving the middle of February not totally

933
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: sure that's Sam Bradford, Jake Cutler, and Peyton Manning that

934
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe there'll be some moving parts the

935
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: next few weeks and make our lives a lot more fun.

936
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: I'd love to see. I would love to see Sam

937
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: Bradford in a different place. Yeah, maybe trade him to

938
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: Chicago for Jake Cutler. There. I just solved it all. Uh, Carner,

939
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: we gotta get to Dan Kansas, so you guys can

940
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: get out on the town and we can get out

941
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: of here. Uh, we'll hear from on Friday. Thanks, thanks

942
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: for all you do. Thank you guys. I'll talk to

943
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: you that all right, and uh we wrap up the

944
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: show here. You gotta go with the best, the biggest

945
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 1: guest possible clean up. Peter finished the show and that's

946
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: the host. We miss him here, Dan Hands. But you

947
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: know we're trying to do our best without you, and

948
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: we recruited some major talent here to join. Chris Wesley,

949
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf is on with you. Dan Hands is what's

950
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: going on? Hey, what is happening? He's got the intro song,

951
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: He's got it all that. I like that. That is

952
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: because they you know, usually am you know, sending people up.

953
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: That will be my catch phrase when people's you know, na,

954
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: hey what is happening? Well, we need a nickname for you.

955
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: But you know we got get your Dan Hands. This,

956
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean I thought we were going with the old zeuser.

957
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: What did Cessler say? Um D sixpence? Yeah, that's another option. Actually,

958
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes said that next time she comes on the podcast,

959
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: she will have a nickname ready for me. So that's

960
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Linz. As I like to

961
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: call it. Your Colleen is uh there, I'm a big

962
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Colleen both fan. The feeling is mutual, Dan, Yeah, this

963
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: is very exciting. Well, Dan, I know you guys. Uh,

964
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: it's it's almost time to get out there, get some food,

965
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: get some drinks, whatever you're gonna do, get back to

966
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: work tomorrow. It's so long. It's a long time there

967
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: in Indian Alix's. If it's your first scouting Combine experience,

968
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: let's start with that. Actually, why what do you make

969
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: of the whole sort of set up there and and

970
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: what the whole event is? Like, I guess, like everything

971
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: else in life, it's do you always imagine things to

972
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: be bigger? Uh? When you pictured, like when you guys

973
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: were going and I was manning the shop in Culver City,

974
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: I imagined you guys being in this vast ballroom where

975
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: there were different setups all over the place, multiple coaches talking.

976
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: But instead, you know, one set up where all the

977
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: major NFL figures are talking from and I'm sentually sitting

978
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: right next to the riser, so I could I could

979
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: really do my job from sitting there, but I like to,

980
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: you know, I like to get in the mix there

981
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: and ask questions. So that's been fun being involved in

982
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: the FRENDS conferences. Yeah, that's not what the footage showed.

983
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: Every picture we saw coming out of the combine today

984
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: was Mark Sessler, double fisted with a phone and a recorder,

985
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: back in his chair with his arms behind his hand.

986
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: Starting to be a little sucificious though with Mark and

987
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: the some of the some of the pop string was like,

988
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: wait are you saying this is staged? You know, Mark's

989
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: obviously very hard working. You should know that Mark has subtly,

990
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: subtly pulled the power play here and is really taking

991
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: to this number two in charge move. Wow, this is news.

992
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: Actually he actually threatened a threatened the group last night

993
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: for everyone to be on time. And I don't know

994
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: it's justice, just as I missed a couple of shows

995
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: in a row and Greg is all of a sudden

996
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: hosting multiple podcasts, Well what else are we gonna do

997
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like a big chain reaction of

998
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: power play. So, Dan, you were underwhelmed so far, with

999
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: the combine and you're not happy at all. This is

1000
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: an ugly under belly that I don't know if the

1001
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: listeners need to hear about Mark Dan I I love

1002
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: They're like the two you know, they're the two amigas

1003
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: freaking fres something. All right, let's I don't think I

1004
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: don't think you. I love Mark to death. But I

1005
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: see I saw that shot that uh, some some journal

1006
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: took that's happened at markt me right in the forefront,

1007
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem a little bit a little bit

1008
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: like Mark was, you know, putting it on a little

1009
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: bit multiple electronic problems, you know, products pointing at the

1010
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: at the NFL. Figure come, I can't the whole number

1011
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: two thing and the threat is us. This is interesting,

1012
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: But I am just to make the clear calling I am.

1013
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: I am really enjoying that the combine so far. I

1014
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: do like Indianapolis. It's too cold here, but it was

1015
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: it was fun. I'm looking forward to it against the bomb. Well,

1016
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: let's wrap wrap things up with a little talk about

1017
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: your jets and just seeing the differences in this Jets regime.

1018
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: And they went back to back today, Todd Bowls and

1019
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnen um, who does look a lot like Murray

1020
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: from Flight of the Concords still does and uh and

1021
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 1: then you also saw a little bit of Rex Ryan

1022
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: in his bills, you know, outfit here. What what do

1023
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: you make of that whole bit today? Well, you know,

1024
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: Rex is funny by the way, I hdo shows. If

1025
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: you say Flight of the Conflorens from mca uh bowls

1026
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: kind of looks like Funny from the Wild funny cold yeah, yeah, younger, well, yeah,

1027
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: a little younger and ship Yeah, I could see that.

1028
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: I like that. But money who doesn't like Bunny? We

1029
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: had our first I don't know if this came over

1030
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: with any other calls, but last night at UM a

1031
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: local brewery brewery, we had our first draft of the

1032
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: combine um you know, participants, where we each tip turns

1033
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: making picks about who we wanted to essentially cover today.

1034
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: And I made sure, even though I had a trade

1035
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: up to make it happen, I made sure to get

1036
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan because I was you know, I'm always looking

1037
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: forward to getting close up to Recks. And he didn't disappoint.

1038
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: He started off with a rambling anecdote about the Buffalo

1039
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: Bison's minor league team, and you know it was I

1040
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: I wrote about it on the site that it was

1041
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: kind of like a stand up comedian who's testing out

1042
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: new material and you know it might not work, but

1043
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: he's just kind of ripping shooting from the hip and

1044
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: seeing that it didn't work. No, it didn't work. It

1045
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: was very it was very odd, but still it was

1046
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: charming him his own Rex way. So he did his

1047
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: thing and then a couple of hours it or you

1048
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: get the new brain trust, the new Jets brain trust,

1049
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: which is kind of it's fascinating because I you know,

1050
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: I was talking to several of the Jets beat writers,

1051
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: um rich Smini of ESPN, who who has been covering

1052
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: the Jets for twenty years, Dom Constantino, who you spread

1053
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: for dead Spin but now covers the Jets and j

1054
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: dot com, and they, you know, they they said the

1055
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: same thing that I've picked up on, which is like,

1056
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: this is a different show. Now, it's a different world.

1057
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: Both Bowls and the Cagnet really are tight lipped. They

1058
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: don't they don't say anything they don't have to say. Um,

1059
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: it didn't seem to me like it was too much

1060
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: to the point where it was like one of those

1061
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: situations where a team starts to just get paranoid. It

1062
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: just seemed more like these guys aren't interested in making headlines.

1063
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: And while it's it's gonna make for more boring copy

1064
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: and less headlines, it's not necessarily a bad thing. I

1065
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: think that Jet kind of needed this blowdown past a

1066
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: little bit after the Rex circuits went on and on.

1067
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: So but that striking to me how how reserved both

1068
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: men were after you know, the Rex party, We got

1069
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: no news from them. I mean, I want to know

1070
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: if you know they have cap room. I want to

1071
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: know if Percy Harvin is gonna be on the Like

1072
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: do you think Parcy Harvin is going to be on

1073
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: this team? I don't think so I feel like that,

1074
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: but they have the room for him, So I kind

1075
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: of think, like why not, Like they have Eric Decker

1076
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: and Harvin and Curly, It's like, why not have them

1077
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can afford them, which they can.

1078
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: I know, and I did specifically, I I asked both

1079
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: of them about it, and that nobody was nobody was

1080
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: saying anything. But I don't know, I mean, what would

1081
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: you rather have Percy Harvin or Randall Cobb? You know,

1082
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like what I wasn't I want to

1083
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: have a guy that I can trust that's going to

1084
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: be on the field, and if it, if it wasn't

1085
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: worth so much money, you know that I would I

1086
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: would definitely keep him around. But jeez, that's superstar wide

1087
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: receiver money for a guy that's really had one good suit.

1088
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: What about Jeremy Macklin there with the Todd Bulls connect

1089
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: from Philly? Yeah, I like I got spooked a little

1090
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: bit by West on the podcast last week. Who you know?

1091
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: I trust the West as a scientist and a malman

1092
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: who sits at the stool with his beer and dispenses info.

1093
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: And West was saying how he believes that Maclin is

1094
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe a bit of a system receiver and he thrives

1095
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: in in Philly. And I could almost imagine them, the

1096
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: Jets overpaying for Macwin and then him reverting to you know,

1097
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, sixty eight catches for nine fourteen yards and

1098
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, which is not what they need. They need

1099
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: a true one or one eight type guy to arrived

1100
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: with Decker. So I don't know, Macklin's maybe West you

1101
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: scared me off. Mack Part of it is I don't

1102
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: trust him to stay healthy, and he's only had the

1103
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: one one thousand yards season last year playing DeShawn Jackson's

1104
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: spot in Chip Kelly's offense. He never had thousand yards

1105
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: seasons before that because he was always banged up and

1106
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing at and that affected his production. I

1107
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: don't see him as a durable wide receiver stay and

1108
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: Gregg after if they did let Hart and walk and

1109
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: they invested that money elsewhere, hopefully by the way they

1110
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: get this Wilkerson done deal done. They're still not talking

1111
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: with any urgency today about getting it done. But you know,

1112
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be not as good as last year,

1113
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: but it supposed to be another good wide receiver class.

1114
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: If they decide they don't want to invest in a

1115
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, set a Maori Cooper kids, sounds like

1116
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: somebody that would be a nice spot at number six,

1117
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: and mcagnet did say, because we got him in the

1118
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: hallway afterwards that he made it clear that they were

1119
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: open to moving up via trade if they fall in

1120
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: love with somebody. So being at number six, he explained,

1121
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: it's a great place to be because you're not too

1122
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: far from the top of the draft and you're writ

1123
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: in that sweet spot where the team might get desperate

1124
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: and call you. So I could see the jets and

1125
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: they have been moving around. Well that is the skinny

1126
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: from Indian Apples. What a what an in weird show

1127
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: here today? I like that we had a cast that

1128
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: thousands a lot weird. I'm just saying we had each

1129
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: of the guys on one by one. It was interested.

1130
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: This was the show almost didn't exist, but we just thought,

1131
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: give the people more podcast. It could very possibly be

1132
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: a Frank stun Monster. Oh, it'll be great. It was

1133
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: like a carnival atmosphere. How could anything with Colleen Wolfe

1134
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: prominently featured be a bad thing. I have one last

1135
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: question for you. Who was taking last in the draft

1136
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: last night? Who was the last draft pick? That is

1137
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: a great question. I would assume I don't have the

1138
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: paperwork in front of me, but I would assume it

1139
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: was Jason lick Okay. Like like, I would say, by

1140
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: the way, the most, the least charismatic, and uh Rust

1141
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: and Webster had to be in the mix. Webster's right

1142
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: up there. But Denis, Oh, I've heard a lot of

1143
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: that on Twitter that Dennis Hickey was the most boring

1144
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: guy all day. Yeah, he's also he telt later in

1145
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: the day, so I think people are starting to get

1146
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: a little burned out. But when he was at the

1147
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: podium that it was just the place wasn't jumping. Dolphins

1148
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: speech writer said it was his most electric performance a date. Well, well,

1149
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: the place is always jumping when Dan Hansis is on

1150
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: the line. We're gonna say goodbye to you and just

1151
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: say goodbye to the to the listeners. All in one

1152
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: fell swooped for Dan Hansas, Kevin Patrick con Roor and

1153
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler in Indianapolis. We've got Colleen Wolf and Chris

1154
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: westleying in l A. We will see you back on Friday.

1155
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Speaker 1: Ship