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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, after the crazy comeback by the Pacers in
Speaker 2: game one, Haliburton hit that crazy shot you know, okase
Speaker 2: he came back in game two and was shown in
Speaker 2: their showing their stripes. They look dominant. Ye, based on
Speaker 2: what you've seen so far. How comfortable were you with
Speaker 2: your bet that you placed at the beginning? Okay see
Speaker 2: minus one and a half?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean here what I will say about that
Speaker 1: bet to put a little pin in Vegas for now?
Speaker 1: That bet was a luxury bet when I placed it.
Speaker 1: It's a necessity bet now I just can't you can't
Speaker 1: have you can't have bet of the year go awry
Speaker 1: right after a five day poker bludgeting. Obviously, the bet
Speaker 1: didn't look great after Indiana steels game one because then
Speaker 1: for the thunder Haft to win in four, five or six,
Speaker 1: for that bet to win and after you lose game one,
Speaker 1: four is literally eliminated and five is potentially eliminated. However,
Speaker 1: we now have had ninety six minutes of this series.
Speaker 1: The Indiana Pacers have led for two of those minutes.
Speaker 1: I do not think there is a single player on
Speaker 1: the Pacers demonte who can say I like how I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I don't think there is a single matchup in this
Speaker 1: series right now that Rick Carlisle can look at and
Speaker 1: be like bang, that's where we take advantage. So even
Speaker 1: though it's one one I feel just as confident as
Speaker 1: I did before the series that this is a real mismatch.
Speaker 1: And again, it is no shame in it for the Pacers.
Speaker 1: And if you disagree, we can discuss it in a second.
Speaker 1: But it it's no shame in the Pacers that they
Speaker 1: have finally found an opponent that is truly out of
Speaker 1: their weight classes. This Oklahoma City team is eighty one
Speaker 1: and nineteen on the year. No one has been able
Speaker 1: to deal with Shay all year long, and Nie Smith
Speaker 1: and Nimhard are not gonna be any different in that regard.
Speaker 1: And you don't look at anything Oklahoma City has done
Speaker 1: thus far and say, oh, well that's not sustainable. Oh well,
Speaker 1: that guy's not gonna keep playing like that. If anything,
Speaker 1: you look at how Jalen Williams is playing. I think
Speaker 1: he's eleven of thirty three for the series. Uh, fact
Speaker 1: check me on that, guys, if you would. Jalen Williams
Speaker 1: total shooting splits in the series. But I think he's
Speaker 1: eleven of thirty three and I think Chet has only
Speaker 1: made one to three the entire series. If anything, you
Speaker 1: look at that and you say, well, those guys should
Speaker 1: get a little bit better, and will Shay average thirty
Speaker 1: four a game in this series. Maybe not thirty four,
Speaker 1: but will he average thirty Well, he has all year,
Speaker 1: and so I just think that there is there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of adjustments Indiana can make aside from try
Speaker 1: to get hot from three and that might be worth
Speaker 1: a game, but that I do not think is going
Speaker 1: to be worth multiple games, and they need it to
Speaker 1: be worth three games. And so we didn't end up
Speaker 1: making the series exacta bets, which is, you know, game
Speaker 1: one this way, Game two that way, so on and
Speaker 1: so forth. And I'm glad we didn't because I obviously
Speaker 1: would have gotten game one wrong. But in that I
Speaker 1: thought we would head to Game three with the Thunder
Speaker 1: up to nothing, and then they let their foot off
Speaker 1: the gas a bit and the Pacers steal Game three,
Speaker 1: and then the Thunder retake control in game four because
Speaker 1: the Thunder already lost a game. I now feel like
Speaker 1: there will be no foot off the gas in game three,
Speaker 1: and the Thunder will be in position to retake home
Speaker 1: court advantage in game three, which is what I fully
Speaker 1: expect them to do. So before we get to Morche
Speaker 1: and Haliburton stuff, Demonse, you I saw your kind of
Speaker 1: you know, yeah reaction. When I was saying that, I
Speaker 1: thought there was just there was no spot where the
Speaker 1: Pacers had an edge or you know, nobody's playing that well,
Speaker 1: so go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they are out match.
Speaker 2: I was just saying, like, with the first game, I
Speaker 2: feel like they played a pretty poor game. They obviously
Speaker 2: I think they had over twenty turnovers and they still
Speaker 2: may have to get the win. So I was just saying,
Speaker 2: with those stats, I feel like they should be able
Speaker 2: to do something. But you say that there's just no
Speaker 2: mismatches that Indiana can exploit. I understand that there is
Speaker 2: not a single guy on there that you can just say,
Speaker 2: go get a bucket or no. Yeah, they are outmatched,
Speaker 2: but got And here's the.
Speaker 1: Other piece of it. They win the turnovers. Thing isn't fluky.
Speaker 1: This is what OKAC does to people. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: particularly this is one of the reasons. And I thought
Speaker 1: this was a mistake. It was mistake, might be too strong,
Speaker 1: but I was shocked that OKC changed their starting lineup
Speaker 1: before Game one, that when they had been this dominant
Speaker 1: team all year, that they took Hartenstein out of the
Speaker 1: starting lineup. But they did that to add another perimeter defender,
Speaker 1: so they could just harass the pacers out on the
Speaker 1: you know, on the perimeter, and they they caused nineteen
Speaker 1: first half turnovers in Game one. Now what was fluky
Speaker 1: about that was despite causing all those turnovers, they weren't
Speaker 1: getting fast break points. They weren't getting as many points
Speaker 1: off turnovers. But it's still dead possessions and there Listen.
Speaker 1: It is incredibly difficult too. I know this is going
Speaker 1: to sound almost sacrilegious to how basketball is supposed to
Speaker 1: be played, but it is incredibly difficult. And history will
Speaker 1: back me up on this. To win a championship, if
Speaker 1: your best player is a true pass first point guard
Speaker 1: that is not a natural scorer, if you don't either
Speaker 1: have to go along with that person the best defense
Speaker 1: in the league or a go to dominant big that
Speaker 1: he can get a lot of his you know, assists to.
Speaker 1: So when you look at the most traditional kind of
Speaker 1: pass first elite point guards in NBA history and you
Speaker 1: go and that Listen, I'm not putting Halliburton on the
Speaker 1: historical list, but he obviously is a pass first point guard.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul ran into this where it's like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: I am I'm the best player on the team. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can score, but this is not really where my
Speaker 1: bread is buttered, so to speak. And then as competition
Speaker 1: gets harder and harder, and the other teams more and
Speaker 1: more talented, eventually I'm going to play a team that
Speaker 1: is going to have enough talent of their own on
Speaker 1: the perimeter, particularly defensively or inside defensively to slow down
Speaker 1: the guys. I'm trying to spoon feed these buckets too.
Speaker 1: And he never made He didn't make a finals until
Speaker 1: he was alongside a dominant scorer and booker, and they
Speaker 1: didn't even they you know, when they made the finals,
Speaker 1: didn't win. Steve Nash he could score like Haliburton can score,
Speaker 1: but he's a career like eighteen point a game guy.
Speaker 1: He's a pass first wizard who never had those dominant
Speaker 1: defenses and had a hard ceiling. Some bad luck, some injuries,
Speaker 1: some bad suspensions. I get it, though. Of the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: Chauncey did it, and Chauncey's not the caliber of those
Speaker 1: two previous players, but that was the best defense in basketball.
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas did it. But that was the best defense
Speaker 1: in basketball, and Isaiah had real, real high end scoring
Speaker 1: ability that he kind of tempered on his own. I mean,
Speaker 1: John Stockton had Carl Malone as the go to score.
Speaker 1: He's a pass first guy, and those teams were championship caliber.
Speaker 1: They just ran into the bulls. But you had stockedon,
Speaker 1: you had Malone to go alongside alongside him, and people
Speaker 1: will be like, well, Magic did it, and you can't
Speaker 1: even be like, well he had Kareem because older man
Speaker 1: like it the for the last couple championships that was
Speaker 1: not the same cream. But Magic's one of the five
Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of the league, and as
Speaker 1: great as great as Coozy was, Like they didn't win.
Speaker 1: It's a little unfair to Cooozy, but they didn't win
Speaker 1: until they got Russell and they had the best defensive
Speaker 1: player in the history of the sport. It's just so
Speaker 1: hard to win four rounds if your best player can't
Speaker 1: reliably just go get you a bucket. And it's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I have always been a defender
Speaker 1: of Luca, even though people don't like the heliocentric style,
Speaker 1: because guys like like Luca and Lebron, they are at
Speaker 1: their core past first players, but they are also dominant scorers.
Speaker 1: And so I know I'm kind of stepping a bit
Speaker 1: on the Haliburton conversation, but we'll still get to it
Speaker 1: because there's something specific about how he's playing. But it's
Speaker 1: just it is. If you don't have if you are,
Speaker 1: let me rephrase it, let me kind of turn it
Speaker 1: a bit. The Pacers are an offensive minded team. There
Speaker 1: is no precedent for a team that is their identity
Speaker 1: is their offense to be able to win four straight rounds.
Speaker 1: If they don't have anyone on that offense that you
Speaker 1: are not at all surprised. In fact, you kind of
Speaker 1: expect them to go for thirty. And so it's a
Speaker 1: very thin needle that's trying to be threaded here, which
Speaker 1: is the thunder of the better defense, we have the
Speaker 1: better offense. The thunder, by the way, also have far
Speaker 1: and away the best offensive player in the series. It's
Speaker 1: a tough spot and that's where I think the that's
Speaker 1: the hard ceiling the Pacers have run into. I know,
Speaker 1: you want to talk a little Lesga before we get
Speaker 1: to the other stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bruce said, SGA is a little too mature
Speaker 2: to be the face of the league.
Speaker 3: Can we play That's what's going on.
Speaker 1: So he was SGA just had such like a measured,
Speaker 1: mature response to how every game is a reset. He's like, listen,
Speaker 1: we've won by fifty, and then we've lost big, we
Speaker 1: lost at home, and then we won by forty. And
Speaker 1: he was just very calm, cool and collected. I don't think.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think, because there there's going We already
Speaker 1: knew this was coming that in Oklahoma City, Indiana Pacers
Speaker 1: NBA Finals was not going to capture the imagination of America.
Speaker 1: So we knew the ratings would not be great and
Speaker 1: people and I listen, Adam Silver went on Breakfast Ball
Speaker 1: and he was like, if it was Steelers Packers, people
Speaker 1: would be celebrating it. Steelers Packers are one hundred year
Speaker 1: old brands. Yeah, it was you know what, I like
Speaker 1: the league exactly right, And so that is not the
Speaker 1: right comp The right comp is if it were the Colts. No,
Speaker 1: just say it again, the Colts no, because the cults
Speaker 1: even have a sure if I mean, I'll take that,
Speaker 1: But Colts Panthers, or if it were Jags Saints, you know,
Speaker 1: like it wouldn't it would feel Now it's the NFL
Speaker 1: and the NFL doesn't rely on individual star power as
Speaker 1: much as the NBA does obviously, so there would be
Speaker 1: some of it, but it wouldn't feel as exciting. Now.
Speaker 1: What some folks might say is, yeah, Kansas City might
Speaker 1: as well be Oklahoma City in one hundred. That is true,
Speaker 1: That is correct, which is why Oklahoma City can become
Speaker 1: a huge draw, but it needs sustained long term success.
Speaker 1: You know, people are just now recognizing who these guys
Speaker 1: are and how good they are. The point Brew was
Speaker 1: either intentionally or unintentionally making is the short The shortcut
Speaker 1: to that is to be controversial or polarizing, and Shay
Speaker 1: is not going to be that. Like the shortcut to
Speaker 1: notoriety is to have, you know, have people on both
Speaker 1: sides of the argument in a way. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a different example. So Shae this year, by any objective measure,
Speaker 1: Demonte had a better season than the last Oklahoma City
Speaker 1: Thunder player to win League MVP, Russell Westbrook in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: But that Thunder team and Russ individually was a wildly
Speaker 1: interesting captivating figure for a lot of reasons. One was
Speaker 1: just stylistically, and that's something that is going to somewhat
Speaker 1: work against Shay. There is an element and a level
Speaker 1: of are you dunking on people's heads that will grab
Speaker 1: an audience in a way great footwork and mid range
Speaker 1: jump shots and playing underneath the rim typically will not. Right.
Speaker 1: So there's that piece of it. There was the morality
Speaker 1: play piece of Durant left, he's there, now he's you know,
Speaker 1: basically it felt like a one man show and it
Speaker 1: kind of was, you know, there is that piece of it.
Speaker 1: There was also this piece of it. A lot of
Speaker 1: people who cover the league was like, he's not that good.
Speaker 1: Triple double, shmippele double, don't care stat batter, empty calories,
Speaker 1: and there are other people that were saying, no, he
Speaker 1: does more for his team than any player in the league.
Speaker 1: So it didn't matter that it was Oklahoma City. His
Speaker 1: style was exciting. There was real emotion to his story
Speaker 1: at that time, and there was a real argument about
Speaker 1: how good he is or isn't. So it is in
Speaker 1: a way it this is a weird one because lucas
Speaker 1: with the Lakers now. But if Luca, let's just say
Speaker 1: everything about Luca were the same, but he had been
Speaker 1: traded instead of to the Lakers, he was he was
Speaker 1: traded to Indiana. Let's just say that was the trade.
Speaker 1: Instead of Luca for a d it was Luca for Halliburton,
Speaker 1: all right. While Luca wouldn't have the high the aesthetically
Speaker 1: pleasing style of play the way Russ did, people would
Speaker 1: be invested because there is real debate about is he
Speaker 1: a great player, a ballhog, or a legend? Like you
Speaker 1: have opinions all across the spectrum, and man, this team,
Speaker 1: his team gave up on him all like. There's all
Speaker 1: those pieces to it, and so I don't I think
Speaker 1: market size has something to do with it, but there's
Speaker 1: just it's not just that it's Oklahoma City and Indiana.
Speaker 1: The Indiana pieces, they were not taken seriously by anyone
Speaker 1: as a contender all year, so they weren't like really
Speaker 1: in the discussion. And the Oklahoma City piece of it
Speaker 1: is they are not really a debatable team, which is
Speaker 1: the only thing anybody could say about them all year
Speaker 1: is like, Ah might be too young. Nobody was like
Speaker 1: they're not that good, nobody was like Shay's overrated, nobody's
Speaker 1: had any and we've never like hadn't seen them fail
Speaker 1: and come back. So there's just a lot of pieces
Speaker 1: to it and if folks can say that, well, if
Speaker 1: you need something to debate in order to be interested,
Speaker 1: then you don't love basketball, like you're not a die
Speaker 1: hard basketball fan. But those people miss the point because
Speaker 1: here's thing, demanse, whether or not the ratings are good
Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to do with the die hards. That
Speaker 1: die hards are there for the finals, no matter what
Speaker 1: a rating is generated by our people who typically are
Speaker 1: not watching, watching, and like and for those people, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't sell a casual and by the way, sports
Speaker 1: League shouldn't try to and there shouldn't be any like
Speaker 1: shame about this. You the people that truly appreciate the
Speaker 1: real artistry of the game, and you know how the
Speaker 1: thunder were built and Haliburton's story, those people are all
Speaker 1: ready the d if when you are trying to for
Speaker 1: your premiere event, trying to draw in the everyone else,
Speaker 1: those people, it's the same way any of us ever
Speaker 1: have been drawn into something that we previously weren't interested in.
Speaker 1: So like the people weren't go ahead, de mindset.
Speaker 2: I was never a big boxing guy, but the Jake
Speaker 2: I never like would watch pay per view, But Jake
Speaker 2: Paul Mke's eyes something came out and I was watching boxing.
Speaker 1: You gotta right, it's a spectacle. But no, there's the
Speaker 1: people that knew nothing about Formula one racing and don't
Speaker 1: and can't understand why this overtake was impressive, or why
Speaker 1: this car is better than that car, or why that
Speaker 1: pit crew is the best. Saw the one show got
Speaker 1: to know the personalities. They're like, oh, I'm interested. And
Speaker 1: by the way, that show on Netflix that Lebron and
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis were in, I forget the name of it,
Speaker 1: Starting five, the one that they're recording this year. Two
Speaker 1: of the five are Shay and Haliburton. So maybe that's
Speaker 1: good to bring in people for you know, future future
Speaker 1: years or whatever it is. But that's just what it is.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything wrong with it, and
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to. I don't love the
Speaker 1: folks who are like patriotizing on NBA Twitter, like, well,
Speaker 1: if you can't appreciate this basketball, then you don't love basketball.
Speaker 1: It's like, no shit, the people who love basketball are
Speaker 1: already watching. It's the people who, you know, they're debating
Speaker 1: between you know, restarting the last season of Love is
Speaker 1: Blind or flipping on the finals and though you're like,
Speaker 1: those people know the storylines, you know, uh, and the
Speaker 1: of Stafford Lebron or whomever, and they're not familiar with
Speaker 1: these folks. Now you and again, now I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like shadowboxing potential other arguments. People be like, well, it's
Speaker 1: the media's job to inform people of these stories, sure,
Speaker 1: but not all stories are as interesting from a story
Speaker 1: perspective as others. And so like, there is there is
Speaker 1: not a lot that is very interesting about the Thunder
Speaker 1: the Pacers outside of the basketball, which is totally fine.
Speaker 1: You're not always going to have that, but that is
Speaker 1: going to make it difficult to bring in people who
Speaker 1: are only passively interested in the basketball. And like, that's
Speaker 1: just a reality of you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's marketing or how this stuff works. And so I
Speaker 1: don't think that is.
Speaker 2: Just saying don't coming, don't come with the casuals because
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's why they're casual fans, and
Speaker 1: I think that's totally fine. And I think that you know,
Speaker 1: interest ebbs and flows, and sometimes you need you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't know that this is going to be
Speaker 1: an all time classic book. After the first chapter and
Speaker 1: if the Thunder go on the type of run some
Speaker 1: people not me as much, but some people think they
Speaker 1: really could, then this will build and this will be
Speaker 1: like Chapter one, and the people who were locked in
Speaker 1: and dialed to these NBA Finals in four years, when
Speaker 1: Shay and Chet and j Dubb are all household names,
Speaker 1: people will be like I, you know, I remember watching
Speaker 1: them nervously host to Game seven against Nikolai Jokic. That
Speaker 1: could have derailed this whole thing for it even started.
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Speaker 1: talk a little more Halliburton and then get some other stuff.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you touched on a little bit of Halliburton's
Speaker 2: lackluster scoring ability. Rick Carlisle came in the conference and
Speaker 2: backed him and said, you can't judge him off his
Speaker 2: box score. He had five points and three quarters in
Speaker 2: Game two. Do you think that everybody overreacted by crowding Halliburton?
Speaker 1: The yeah, he does. No, I don't think everyone overacted.
Speaker 1: I here's what I think. It's undeniable that what he
Speaker 1: has done in the clutch is unprecedented. He's thirteen of
Speaker 1: fifteen on game go ahead or game time shots in
Speaker 1: the final minute this year. He has hit four de
Speaker 1: facto buzzer beaters this playoffs. And one of my favorite things,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest with you guys, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things about and this is why is a
Speaker 1: bit of a sidebar. I'll get back to Halliburton, but
Speaker 1: for years I have said that the next generation is
Speaker 1: going to look back on the goat debate and be like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. That was a debate, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna look back on some of the arguments and say, no,
Speaker 1: nobody actually said, you know, Lebron wasn't clutch. Nobody actually
Speaker 1: did this stuff. And the reason that I have been
Speaker 1: so confident in it was demonstrated, really, I think well
Speaker 1: by what happened after Halliburton's last game winner, where all
Speaker 1: over TV and all over social media are a bunch
Speaker 1: of graphics and it's like, wow, Tyre's Halliburton now has
Speaker 1: five five playoff game winners or game tires in the
Speaker 1: final second in his career, and you know, here's his
Speaker 1: percentage and this is unbelievable. And then you see it
Speaker 1: and he's tied for second because Lebron has eight. And
Speaker 1: then you see the other ones where it's like wow,
Speaker 1: look at look at this guy's percentages and you see
Speaker 1: it and then it's like, oh, wait, hold on, is
Speaker 1: that Kobe at twenty two percent and Lebron at you
Speaker 1: know whatever, it was fifty percent. I mean, Nate Tice
Speaker 1: tweeted it, tweeted out, and I'm looking for it that
Speaker 1: you know, all I can see. I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: and all I can see is twenty two percent, which
Speaker 1: was you know what, Kobe was four of twenty two
Speaker 1: for his career. And I'm not trying to denegrate the
Speaker 1: late great Kobe Bryant, but it was just about yeah,
Speaker 1: here it is right here. So extra Stats had tweeted
Speaker 1: most game tying or lead taking shots with under five
Speaker 1: seconds left in the game in the playoffs since the
Speaker 1: stat tracking era has started, and so since nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: And what you see is the you know guys with
Speaker 1: four or more. It is Chris Middleton, Kobe Halliburton with five,
Speaker 1: Reggie with five, and Lebron with eight. And then you
Speaker 1: look through it and you're like, you know, Lebron eight
Speaker 1: of twenty, Reggie five of nine, Halliburton and impossible five
Speaker 1: of six, Middleton four for eight, and Kobe four for
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty two. And so there is an element of
Speaker 1: the numbers are the numbers, and the facts are the facts.
Speaker 1: And we are going to because of Lebron's longevity and
Speaker 1: the fact that in the playoffs he has every record
Speaker 1: there is for the next at least twenty five years
Speaker 1: of basketball. Every time every single time a guy hits
Speaker 1: a milestone or a threshold, there is going to be
Speaker 1: a reminder to the audience that this player just became
Speaker 1: the second youngest or the second oldest, or has the
Speaker 1: second most and first on all of those lists is
Speaker 1: going to be Bron.
Speaker 3: Hey, how Burden might be first on that? On the
Speaker 3: go ahead book, is he already got five? Took Lebron
Speaker 3: like two years to get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say he's
Speaker 1: not gonna get.
Speaker 3: For in his whole career. He's already got five.
Speaker 1: Kobe played twenty years, he got five. I'm the and
Speaker 1: and so again like just man twenty four. Let me
Speaker 1: go ahead and guess the twenty four is for Kobe
Speaker 1: rights in the chat Bro, Come on, that's a longevity stat.
Speaker 1: Game winners and percentage is a longevity stat. Okay, But
Speaker 1: again there is there's no reconciling the percentages. They're just there.
Speaker 1: There just isn't. And the the the playoff game winners,
Speaker 1: Kobe's shooting eighteen of them and making four and Bron
Speaker 1: shooting twenty and making eight, you can call that a
Speaker 1: longevity staff. But you're just that's just what kids would
Speaker 1: call cope. It's it's just I mean, it's just what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, And Haliburn's percentage is higher right now.
Speaker 1: And no, well, Halliburn's percentage is the highest of any
Speaker 1: exactly five on these Yeah, no listen, So to get
Speaker 1: back to the Halliburn thing, because we're actually gonna talk
Speaker 1: Lebron in a second. Anyway, he has been this clutch
Speaker 1: run is one of the greatest, if not the greatest
Speaker 1: single season clutch performance in playoff history. That's undeniable. It's
Speaker 1: also that can be true, while it's also true that,
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, for any NBA player, if they
Speaker 1: cannot reliably go get you a bucket, it's there is
Speaker 1: a ceiling on their consistent effectiveness offensively, that's all. And
Speaker 1: so there is both things can be true that there
Speaker 1: are ways to slow down Halliburton that that don't exist
Speaker 1: to slow down most of the other superstars in this league.
Speaker 1: But while also true he can impact the game differently
Speaker 1: because of his passing, while also true that his clutch
Speaker 1: stuff this postseason we've never seen before, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's all. That's all part of the
Speaker 1: story with him this year I'm going to add one
Speaker 1: other thing though, demons for the Pacers before we move on,
Speaker 1: And this is maybe the adjustment Carlisle needs to make,
Speaker 1: And it's more about approach. The Pacers all year, if
Speaker 1: they're not out running, have been a good shot, good shot,
Speaker 1: great shot.
Speaker 3: Team.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good look. Extra pass that's a good look.
Speaker 1: One extra pass, that's a great look. Halliburton needs to
Speaker 1: recognize that shit doesn't exist against the Thunder. What exists
Speaker 1: against the Thunder is okay, look, decent look, bad look, turnover.
Speaker 1: Like you have to be willing, especially if you're the
Speaker 1: best player on the team and you know the the
Speaker 1: engine of the offense, to take some shots you otherwise
Speaker 1: wouldn't because a B minus look might be the best
Speaker 1: look you're getting that that time up the court, and
Speaker 1: that takes some adjustment, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: the you are not going to ball movement them into
Speaker 1: a bunch of wide open threes. They're too good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so like that's that's something that you almost have
Speaker 1: to retrain your yourself.
Speaker 2: There are just times in the game where it like
Speaker 2: flips on the Pacers where Halliburton has to just be
Speaker 2: like I'm getting a bucket right here, like the crowd's
Speaker 2: going crazy.
Speaker 3: They just went up nineteen twenty one points. You gotta
Speaker 3: go down and do something correct.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's speaking of Lebron. Let's talk
Speaker 1: a little more Lebron.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Lebron might be the NBA's leading scorer, but uh,
Speaker 2: what does that mean when you got no back?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: On mine the game? Lebron said, I see all the time,
Speaker 2: I'll be on social media like Lebron has no bag.
Speaker 2: Lebron has no bag, and I'm sitting here like I
Speaker 2: got fifty billion points. I thought he should have said
Speaker 2: I've got fifty billion chips, like wordplay on like a
Speaker 2: bag of chips. But to Lebron be the undisputed goat
Speaker 2: if he's got no bag.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me go. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: what do you think having a bag means? Because it's
Speaker 1: this is not an agreed upon definition, and I think
Speaker 1: this is an important piece to it. So I'm curious
Speaker 1: where you what you think?
Speaker 2: Okay, I think having a bag is is James Harden
Speaker 2: that's like like Steph Curry, just just a go to
Speaker 2: move or or a bag of moves that you can
Speaker 2: go to to break the defender down. I just think
Speaker 2: it's offense. It's offensive game. I don't think it's like
Speaker 2: anything outside of that.
Speaker 1: No, So it's and it's a it's definitely offense and
Speaker 1: definitely related to scoring. Yeah, right, Like I think everybody
Speaker 1: agrees on that. So here is what I think is
Speaker 1: fair and true, and here is what I think is
Speaker 1: just nonsense. Right, So I think, what do you think
Speaker 1: the weakest part of Lebron's offensive game is? Because I
Speaker 1: think it's very clear. I think there is one thing
Speaker 1: that offensively he is average at. I would say it's
Speaker 1: just league.
Speaker 3: Average stop go, stop start.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're saying the same thing just general ball handling.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's not an elite He's not an elite
Speaker 1: ball handler. And so if people if by bag they
Speaker 1: mean like a Kyrie's style, like fifteen dribble move, then sure,
Speaker 1: then yeah, Lebron's not going to be one of your
Speaker 1: top thirty picks of people when it comes to ball
Speaker 1: handling like the he I think Duran at seven feet
Speaker 1: tall might be a better ball handler like I do.
Speaker 1: And so like that is to me, that's a if
Speaker 1: that's what people are talking about, that's actually accurate. Now,
Speaker 1: to Lebron's point, is it possible that not just kids
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but also retired NBA players on horrific podcasts
Speaker 1: wildly overrate the bag. If to Lebron's point, he's got
Speaker 1: fifty thousand points and doesn't have one, then yeah, then
Speaker 1: maybe it's not quite as important as you think. So
Speaker 1: if we're just saying bag is ball handling, then it's
Speaker 1: probably It's probably true. Here is where I think it
Speaker 1: gets a little though misconstrued or misleading. If by bag
Speaker 1: people are talking about ability to score from anywhere on
Speaker 1: the court at any time, Lebron's as good as anyone
Speaker 1: in the history of the league being are. And this
Speaker 1: is where and this is again where we will simply
Speaker 1: run into folks who some I'm sure are in the
Speaker 1: chat right now, who are going to try to douce
Speaker 1: a lot of mental gymnastics around the numbers in the facts,
Speaker 1: which is now Lebron early in his career, didn't you know,
Speaker 1: was not a good jump shooter. But the benefit of
Speaker 1: playing twenty two years is even if you weren't good
Speaker 1: at something for the first seven there were fifteen years
Speaker 1: you were good at it. So like even be like ah,
Speaker 1: Lebron couldn't shoot. But by year nine he was literally
Speaker 1: forty one percent from three. His third year in Miami,
Speaker 1: I guess that would have been year ten, and then
Speaker 1: you know that was year ten for him was still
Speaker 1: the first half of his career. In Miami, he developed
Speaker 1: his three point shot. His second stint in Cleveland, he
Speaker 1: developed his mid range shot, particularly the turnaround, And since
Speaker 1: then has been the idea that he's gotten his fifty
Speaker 1: thousand points by putting his head down and just going
Speaker 1: to the rim one hundred times a game. Again, that's
Speaker 1: just blied by the data and by the date, I
Speaker 1: mean the games are on TV. You can see where
Speaker 1: the shots are made, all of it. That he has
Speaker 1: the same shot. People talk about him as if he
Speaker 1: has the same shot chart as Shack did. That it
Speaker 1: was layup some free throw, dunk some free throw. But
Speaker 1: this is where now we are, and this is why
Speaker 1: and I you always have to be sensitive here because
Speaker 1: of obviously the tragedy surrounding is passing, but the juxtaposition
Speaker 1: of Kobe versus Lebron, as far as what the actual
Speaker 1: truth is and was versus how they are remembered, has
Speaker 1: always been very interesting because if you ask one hundred
Speaker 1: NBA fans who was the better three point shooter, Kobe
Speaker 1: or Lebron, the vast majority are going to say Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that any possible way you slice it,
Speaker 1: it's not true. And I will and that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's bag for some, it's like your ability, like I said,
Speaker 1: to score from all three levels. So Kobe for his
Speaker 1: career was thirty two point nine percent from three. Lebron
Speaker 1: for his career thirty four point nine percent from three. Oh, well, Nick,
Speaker 1: Kobe shot way more, No, he didn't. Kobe for his
Speaker 1: career four point one attempts per game, Lebron for his
Speaker 1: career four point seven attempts per game. Well, Kobe was
Speaker 1: better in the playoffs. No, Kobe for his career from three,
Speaker 1: his three point percentage is thirty three point one percent
Speaker 1: on four attempts per game. Lebron for his career in
Speaker 1: the playoffs is thirty three percent on four point one
Speaker 1: attempts per game. Well, oh wait, hold on, I had
Speaker 1: I got that last one exactly wrong. I apologize because
Speaker 1: I read Kobe's I read Kobe STAPs twice. Kobe for
Speaker 1: his career in the playoffs thirty three point one percent
Speaker 1: on four attempts per game four point zero, exactly Lebron
Speaker 1: for his career in the playoffs thirty three point three percent,
Speaker 1: essentially the same Lebron to took better, but on four
Speaker 1: point nine a tempts per game. Oh well, Nick, and
Speaker 1: this is one you'll hear when people are really at
Speaker 1: this point grasping, Nick, the game's changed so much, even
Speaker 1: though Lebron and Kobe played in the league together for
Speaker 1: a more than a decade. Okay, so if you just
Speaker 1: take Lebron's career and stop it when Kobe retired, Kobe
Speaker 1: again for his career thirty three point one one percent
Speaker 1: on four point zero attempts per game. Look, that's for
Speaker 1: the playoffs and for the regular season Kobe thirty two
Speaker 1: point nine on four point one attempts per game, basically
Speaker 1: identical for Kobe regular season of playoffs. He retired in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Lebron his rookie year through the date of
Speaker 1: Kobe's retirement the exact same number of three point attempts
Speaker 1: per game four point zero, and Kobe's thirty two point
Speaker 1: nine Lebron thirty four point zero. And so this isn't
Speaker 1: a I'm not trying to do like a Kobe versus
Speaker 1: Lebron thing, because I think that's a silly, really untenable argument,
Speaker 1: as much as people try to make it one. The
Speaker 1: reason I am mentioning that is because that is as
Speaker 1: clear and as clean and as matter of fact as
Speaker 1: data can get, and people simply will say, I do
Speaker 1: not believe that. That's not how I remember it, which
Speaker 1: is that and the people in the chat can get
Speaker 1: as angry as they want, and they say that's longevity,
Speaker 1: even though it's per game, that that's a different era,
Speaker 1: even if we just go year per year. In their
Speaker 1: mind's eye, Kobe was a dominant three point assassin, and
Speaker 1: in their mind's eye, Lebron was just putting his shoulder
Speaker 1: down and get into the rim, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: at the date of Kobe's retirement, he averaged the exact
Speaker 1: same number of three point attempts per game as Lebron
Speaker 1: did and shot him worse. It's just what the facts were.
Speaker 1: So when Lebron is talking about I'm get on social
Speaker 1: media and say Lebron doesn't have a bag or this
Speaker 1: or that, it's because so much of that is it's
Speaker 1: not revisionist history. It's just absolute fake news so to speak,
Speaker 1: that people will believe to their dying breath. Like one
Speaker 1: of the number one questions people will ask is, okay,
Speaker 1: so whatever you're gonna say Lebron's better than Kobe because
Speaker 1: of you know, he played longer or whatever it is. However,
Speaker 1: but one shot life on the line, and then you
Speaker 1: tell him, well, playoff game winners like we just talked
Speaker 1: before Lebron took was eight of twenty, Kobe was four
Speaker 1: of eighteen. People will simply say, I don't believe you,
Speaker 1: even though it is what it is. And so now
Speaker 1: doctor Frank says in the chat, but would you say
Speaker 1: Kobe had a deeper bag than Lebron? I think there's
Speaker 1: an argument there, yes, a hunt because I Kobe was
Speaker 1: a better mid range shot maker than Lebron, and I
Speaker 1: think Kobe was a better ball handler than Lebron.
Speaker 2: That one I agree with there, Yeah, yeah, on the
Speaker 2: back you Agreeeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. But the that then circles back to
Speaker 1: the more I think interesting question is, but then what
Speaker 1: does it really matter except for again to be fair,
Speaker 1: because I am I gotta tell you, among other things,
Speaker 1: I'm the most I'm the fairest arguer in sports media
Speaker 1: because I will often make an argument, and while I'm
Speaker 1: making it, because it's how my brain works, think like, oh,
Speaker 1: does this contradict something you were making? Argument you're making
Speaker 1: about something else, and how do you reconcile those two? So,
Speaker 1: while how Deep your Bag is might be overrated when
Speaker 1: it comes to your effectiveness as a player, as evidenced
Speaker 1: by our discussion about why people were more maybe attracted
Speaker 1: to Russell Westbrook's style of play than Shay Gilgess, Alexander's
Speaker 1: how Deep your Bag is certainly has to do has
Speaker 1: an impact on popularity, grabbing the casual fan highlights things
Speaker 1: like that. That part there is a real impact, all right,
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Speaker 1: Deman's let's get to the New York Knicks before we
Speaker 1: get to some NFL stuff.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So, Whendhorses reported that there's mutual intrigue between
Speaker 2: New York and Dallas head coach Jason Kidd. You mentioned
Speaker 2: a few days ago, a couple of days ago, that
Speaker 2: this might be an efforts to.
Speaker 3: Push for Giannis.
Speaker 1: Why would Dallas let this happen, Well, it's very interesting.
Speaker 1: You could listen. Jason Kidd's history of forcing his way
Speaker 1: out of situations or leaving tough situations in his wake
Speaker 1: is somewhat legendary. Okay, so Tim bond Temps did a
Speaker 1: good job describing describing this. But as a player, Jason
Speaker 1: Kidd was with the MAVs that thing within a couple
Speaker 1: within a couple of years for a lot of reasons
Speaker 1: we don't really need to get into. On the show
Speaker 1: got toxic and he goes to Phoenix. That then at
Speaker 1: the end it ran its course. He goes to the
Speaker 1: Nets and it's awesome. Early on, they make two straight finals.
Speaker 1: He arguably should have won MVP early on in his
Speaker 1: career with the Nets. That then goes sideways. He goes
Speaker 1: back to Dallas, then finishes his career with the Knicks.
Speaker 1: He then for one year as head coach of the
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. At the end of that year, he tries
Speaker 1: to basically take over the team Uh, that doesn't work,
Speaker 1: So he gets his way to Milwaukee. Then in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: they end up souring on him, they fire him, and
Speaker 1: now he's in Dallas. You know, he's with the Lakers briefly.
Speaker 1: Now he's in Dallas, when even when he was with
Speaker 1: the Lakers, there was like worry, like is he gonna
Speaker 1: try to like unseat Vogel? But he goes to Dallas
Speaker 1: and now he's in Dallas and it sure looks like
Speaker 1: he would like to be the head coach of the Knicks.
Speaker 1: And you can say, why would they let you, you know,
Speaker 1: why would they allow it in Dallas? But the answer
Speaker 1: to that is how messy does Jason Kidd want to
Speaker 1: make this? Because you can't have a guy coach your
Speaker 1: team that wants to coach another team. It's one of
Speaker 1: those things like there are certain industries where a contract
Speaker 1: really only as good as long as the person wants
Speaker 1: to fulfill it. Like if if Demanse came in and
Speaker 1: was like, hey, guys, I would like permission to interview
Speaker 1: you to be on Rory and Mao and leave this show,
Speaker 1: well then that kind of just means he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be on this show anymore. And even if I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: you can't, it doesn't really mean like that. I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be right exactly. And so this idea
Speaker 1: that like the Knicks want permission to interview kid, that's
Speaker 1: not an interview. If somebody has a job and they're
Speaker 1: going to talk to someone about another job, it's not
Speaker 1: like a real negotiation. It's like you have that job now.
Speaker 1: So I think go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you're saying the question was, how is
Speaker 2: Dallas going to allow this to happen. I think that
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd wasn't involved when it was Luka Doncon's being
Speaker 2: traded from the team. If he doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: there and stay on that team and stay with the mess.
Speaker 3: That was left, then so be it.
Speaker 2: I think they should let the guy go if he
Speaker 2: wants to go, no questions asked.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably how he would feel. And I
Speaker 1: think that the fact that the Knicks the reporting is
Speaker 1: the Knicks fired Thibodeau, and they seem to only want
Speaker 1: coaches that are currently hired. It's like they're interested in
Speaker 1: Email Odoka who has a job, Jason Kidd, who has
Speaker 1: a job. And then the reporting this weekend was Chris
Speaker 1: Finch who has a job, and so I I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna get Kid. Now is that going to lead
Speaker 1: to them getting the honest It certainly wouldn't hurt. Jiannis
Speaker 1: really liked Kid and even if it's a longer term
Speaker 1: play than just this this year, it seems like that's
Speaker 1: the Knicks. That's the Knicks plan.
Speaker 2: Do you think that he's the best options of the
Speaker 2: than the other coaches if they don't get you honest.
Speaker 1: Listen, I think he's done a really good job in Dallas.
Speaker 1: I also think that you know, you have to be prepared.
Speaker 1: You have to understand Jason Kidd is going to leave
Speaker 1: you at some point. Like there is an element of like,
Speaker 1: you know, if you get in a relationship with someone
Speaker 1: who five of their previous six relationships have started with
Speaker 1: someone new when they were already living with someone else,
Speaker 1: you kind of know that eventually you're going to be
Speaker 1: the someone else. But you're just like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm up for the ride. Let's see how this goes.
Speaker 1: So I think people you've got to go go into
Speaker 1: that situation eyes wide open. But if it moves the
Speaker 1: needle in your ability to get y honest, I think
Speaker 1: that is uh. I think that is worth it. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's do a little NFL and then tennis corner and
Speaker 1: then some listener questions because we're gonna go a little
Speaker 1: too long today.
Speaker 2: Otherwise, Aaron Rodgers officially a stealer. I think we found
Speaker 2: out a little bit after Thursday's show. Pittsburgh Super Bowl
Speaker 2: odds didn't change and their plus money to make the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Looks like TJ. Watt also wants a new contract. How
Speaker 2: much does them acquiring Aaron Rodgers move the needle for you?
Speaker 1: Not much at all. And listen, I think Pittsburgh made
Speaker 1: a mistake in a lot of ways this offseason. And
Speaker 1: I know Steeler fans probably are not going to want
Speaker 1: to hear this, but I would have taken a totally
Speaker 1: different tact. I would have actually gone the opposite to
Speaker 1: de Mons, and I would have started fresh, so to speak.
Speaker 1: I would not have traded for DK Metcalf, would have
Speaker 1: traded away George Pickens. I would not give TJ. Watt
Speaker 1: a new contract. I would I think you get a
Speaker 1: first round pick and something for TJ. Watt. And I
Speaker 1: probably would have said Mason Rudolph take the reins, buddy,
Speaker 1: and I would have gone into next year with multiple
Speaker 1: first round picks, multiple second round picks. My own bad
Speaker 1: pick because I'm a team that doesn't have TJ. Watt
Speaker 1: or George Pickens or DK Metcalf and Mason Rudolph is
Speaker 1: my starting quarterback. And I would say, we're having a
Speaker 1: one year reset and we're cleaning all our books up,
Speaker 1: we're getting young, we're gonna crush the draft, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a franchise quarterback. That's the tact I would
Speaker 1: have taken. Instead, they traded for DK Metcalf. I think
Speaker 1: they are going to give TJ. Watt a new contract,
Speaker 1: and they signed Aaron Rodgers. You know, fingers crossed hope
Speaker 1: against hope. We can go eleven and eight, and by
Speaker 1: eleven and eight, I mean ten and seven, sneak into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, win a playoff game, losing round two. That
Speaker 1: is what the That's not what I think they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go seven and ten. But but
Speaker 1: the that's the goal. The goal is to break this
Speaker 1: damn near decade long streak of not winning a playoff game.
Speaker 1: And I just think this is a huge mistake and
Speaker 1: and Aaron is gonna talk today, and I'm curious what
Speaker 1: he says, but that that's what I that's where I
Speaker 1: think this is going. All right, let's go to our
Speaker 1: tennis corner, demons.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yes, the French Open wrapped up with Cocoa Golf winning
Speaker 2: our first final at Ronald Garrow's gar.
Speaker 1: French Open site.
Speaker 2: The crazy comeback against Center. It's time for tennis corner.
Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm ready for your knowledge, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So listen Coco getting the French Open and beating Sablenka,
Speaker 1: and listen. It was a little marred a bit by
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, some less than gracious comments by Sabalanca,
Speaker 1: But whatever that was, that was an awesome moment and
Speaker 1: it was it in most tennis tournaments would have been
Speaker 1: the moment of the tournament. But my guy, Carlos Alcarez
Speaker 1: being down triple match points and fighting that off and
Speaker 1: then going from there to winning the entire thing in
Speaker 1: a five set, five and a half hour epic. It
Speaker 1: is on the short list of five or six greatest
Speaker 1: matches in modern tennis history. That is not an exaggeration.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he now is sitting there at
Speaker 1: twenty three years old and has five grand slams. The
Speaker 1: only one he's missing is the Australian. He is a
Speaker 1: back to back Wimbledon winner, a back to back French
Speaker 1: Open winner, has won the US Open once and will
Speaker 1: go into Wimbledon as the huge I would imagine huge
Speaker 1: favor's probably wrong, but a significant and favorite. And that
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, when he was twenty years old,
Speaker 1: he beats Rude to win the US In twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: he beats Joker in the Wimbledon final. In twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: he beats Joker in the Wimbledon final. This last year
Speaker 1: in the French Open final, he beats Zverev in another classic.
Speaker 1: And then this year he beats Center in an all
Speaker 1: all time match. Doing that where he is beaten everyone
Speaker 1: that matters, four championships essentially, and he is at twenty three,
Speaker 1: the not not just the face but then next guy
Speaker 1: up as just an all time legend in the field
Speaker 1: at that age is really remarkable. And I said, I've
Speaker 1: been saying he's twenty three? Am I wrong? Is he
Speaker 1: twenty two? And I and I just have that wrong.
Speaker 1: I this whole week, I thought he was doing all
Speaker 1: this at twenty three, But I but this is what
Speaker 1: I'm currently looking at, says that he just turned it.
Speaker 1: Could I thought he just turned twenty three? This is
Speaker 1: saying he just turned twenty two. The Internet's not as
Speaker 1: reliable as it once was. Regardless, is an all time match.
Speaker 1: And I do have to say I am so thrilled
Speaker 1: for my friend Adam Lefgo, who got that tabbed by
Speaker 1: TNT to be the host of their French open cover
Speaker 1: for these last two weeks and just absolutely crushed it.
Speaker 1: And I just cannot help but think back to the
Speaker 1: two thousand and six was it two thousand? What was
Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson Draft? I have to look was Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson two thousand? That was he two thousand and seven? Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 1: April twenty eighth, two thousand and seven, on Z eighty
Speaker 1: nine at Syracuse University, there was a six hour live
Speaker 1: NFL draft show on the radio, and the hosts of
Speaker 1: that show were me, Danny Parkins, Adam Lefgo. It was
Speaker 1: the first time I'm the three of us. Danny and
Speaker 1: left Goo were tight. Lefto and I didn't know each
Speaker 1: other as well because he did a lot of TV
Speaker 1: stuff and was a year younger than me, but we
Speaker 1: did that radio show together and Danny now after being
Speaker 1: a longtime radio star in Chicago host breakfast Ball, I'm
Speaker 1: me and left go is just you know, outside of
Speaker 1: the inside the NBA, you know main crew, the guy
Speaker 1: at Turner Sports. It's just so cool. And I'm so
Speaker 1: happy that he that everybody loved his coverage and everything
Speaker 1: he did, so that that really thrilled me. All right.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, uh, Mary says, let the dog in.
Speaker 1: Let's see if you're sitting right out here, hold on,
Speaker 1: Probably there is come on, decks, all right, he's just chilling.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need to come in. Maybe he
Speaker 1: will come here, decks getting up, He'll probably just hop
Speaker 1: on that couch. All right, Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Very playoffs starts next week. Demonsay, I think we play
Speaker 2: your team in the first round. Very nice meeting, by
Speaker 2: the way, nice meaning her Eric. I did see him
Speaker 2: last last Tuesday. Last month Tuesday was.
Speaker 1: How's the basketball going?
Speaker 3: Basketball is going good. We lost that game.
Speaker 2: I was there, Uh it was I think we lost
Speaker 2: by like seven, but we honestly, we never have more
Speaker 2: than a single sub is the problem.
Speaker 1: Now we're sorry. This is why I couldn't let the
Speaker 1: dog in. I gotta close the door. Now the hold
Speaker 1: on that. Okay, but the playoffs haven't started yet, so
Speaker 1: your team's still alive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly thought today was playoffs and the game's
Speaker 2: kind of late.
Speaker 1: Honestly, listen, Eric might be trying to sandbag you, so
Speaker 1: like the the I mean, if I if I were you,
Speaker 1: i'd make sure.
Speaker 3: Says, does demons have a bag?
Speaker 2: You know, my left hand was never the best.
Speaker 3: I got a bigger bag than Lebron. Though.
Speaker 2: If I dribbled like Lebron in high school, my cult
Speaker 2: would have maybe just dribbled with my left hand the
Speaker 2: entire time.
Speaker 3: Do layups left hand?
Speaker 2: Well, everybody else did the right hand, left hand, right side.
Speaker 2: He made me do that, but uh, well, yeah.
Speaker 3: I've got a bag.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, matt Ford. Did you see mission impossible yet?
Speaker 2: But then he's starting to be I did not?
Speaker 1: Oh oh you yeah, he's asking me not yet. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna see it. This week though I was busy.
Speaker 3: Let's see it this week, Trace says Nick.
Speaker 1: I'm not answering any World Series of Poker. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to do that yet.
Speaker 2: Dub says, since twenty twenty one, Trevor Lawrence leads the
Speaker 2: NFL and turnovers, what more will it take for you
Speaker 2: to finally concede that you were wrong about him?
Speaker 1: Let's see how this year goes. W Let's just see
Speaker 1: how this year goes. Let's see how this year goes.
Speaker 1: This is a big year for trev So let's just
Speaker 1: see how it goes.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the year. And that's where listen, that's
Speaker 1: where we'll leave it. I gotta run. Great job, Demond's
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