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Speaker 1: Welcome in episode three thirty eight, What's Right with Nick Right,

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Speaker 1: and check this out fresh from a trip to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: This couldn't have come any The timing couldn't have been better,

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Speaker 1: because while the show is more than solvent, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I am anymore. So, you know what, we

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Speaker 1: Mobile and Demonte. We have been for three years doing

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Speaker 1: as a way to kind of get in some quick

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Speaker 1: But also, I'll be honest, it's always it's been kind

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Speaker 1: of sponsorship bait, like that's a great segment right off

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Speaker 1: no longer What Missed the Cut now known as straight

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Speaker 1: the voicemail. Guess that these people Boost Mobile, Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: the producers are such jerks. They want me to say this.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence stuns in new photo. I mean, listen, the

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Speaker 1: guy does look quite regal. I mean, let's be honest here,

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Speaker 1: that guy looks outstanding. Wimby embraces monk culture at the

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Speaker 1: Shaolin Temple that's actually really cool, and shaved head Wimby

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Speaker 1: is a little more intimidating. And Adam Sandler offers Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry a movie role if he hits two thousand yards. Now.

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Speaker 1: This was broker by my friend Dan Patrick, which means

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Speaker 1: I am going to try to play a similar card.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if there is some threshold, some something

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Speaker 1: that I can that Dan doesn't think I can do that.

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Speaker 1: Dan will then leverage into Okay, if you do that,

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Speaker 1: I'll get you in one of the Sandler's movies. I

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Speaker 1: think that's possible, so uh, it'd be great. Years ago,

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Speaker 1: we tried to get demands on the HBO show Showtime

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Speaker 1: as Young Byron Scott. We were not yet able to leverage.

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Speaker 1: We weren't able to leverage the show for that. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I can leverage my relationship with Dan Patrick for something else.

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Speaker 1: But I am back in New York. I am in

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Speaker 1: a I go through this once every few years when

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Speaker 1: I prepare and I plot and I study, and I

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Speaker 1: get all ready for a big poker trip and then

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Speaker 1: I have my absolute guts ripped out by I can't

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Speaker 1: even say bad luck, just poor play, over zealousness, being

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Speaker 1: too excited. Where I am now in something of a

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Speaker 1: poker detox, where I just like the I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I gotta take a few days away from even watching

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Speaker 1: the World series. My buddies are out there still final

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Speaker 1: tabling stuff. I can't even like really sweat them and

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Speaker 1: root them on. It's like the feeling one gets right

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Speaker 1: after in college drinking way too much of a certain liquor,

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Speaker 1: where like the next time you go out and you

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Speaker 1: get just a whiff of it, you feel that hungover feeling. Again.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that, except imagine if instead of having a terrible headache,

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Speaker 1: you know, you lost the equivalent of a I don't know,

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Speaker 1: a mid size semi luxury sedan. All right, deman s

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Speaker 1: like rate, subscribe, review, everybody check out the show on

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Speaker 1: all available platforms, and again, if for no other reason,

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Speaker 1: then you know, in some ways subscriptions funnel down eventually

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Speaker 1: into money in my pocket, and right now I need it.

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Speaker 1: Where are we starting, pal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, after the crazy comeback by the Pacers in

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Speaker 2: game one, Haliburton hit that crazy shot you know, okase

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Speaker 2: he came back in game two and was shown in

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Speaker 2: their showing their stripes. They look dominant. Ye, based on

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Speaker 2: what you've seen so far. How comfortable were you with

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Speaker 2: your bet that you placed at the beginning? Okay see

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Speaker 2: minus one and a half?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean here what I will say about that

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Speaker 1: bet to put a little pin in Vegas for now?

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Speaker 1: That bet was a luxury bet when I placed it.

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Speaker 1: It's a necessity bet now I just can't you can't

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Speaker 1: have you can't have bet of the year go awry

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Speaker 1: right after a five day poker bludgeting. Obviously, the bet

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Speaker 1: didn't look great after Indiana steels game one because then

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Speaker 1: for the thunder Haft to win in four, five or six,

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Speaker 1: for that bet to win and after you lose game one,

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Speaker 1: four is literally eliminated and five is potentially eliminated. However,

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Speaker 1: we now have had ninety six minutes of this series.

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Speaker 1: The Indiana Pacers have led for two of those minutes.

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Speaker 1: I do not think there is a single player on

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Speaker 1: the Pacers demonte who can say I like how I'm playing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there is a single matchup in this

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Speaker 1: though it's one one I feel just as confident as

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Speaker 1: And again, it is no shame in it for the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: And if you disagree, we can discuss it in a second.

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Speaker 1: But it it's no shame in the Pacers that they

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Speaker 1: their weight classes. This Oklahoma City team is eighty one

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Speaker 1: and nineteen on the year. No one has been able

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Speaker 1: and Nimhard are not gonna be any different in that regard.

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Speaker 1: And you don't look at anything Oklahoma City has done

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Speaker 1: that guy's not gonna keep playing like that. If anything,

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Speaker 1: you look at how Jalen Williams is playing. I think

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Speaker 1: he's eleven of thirty three for the series. Uh, fact

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Speaker 1: check me on that, guys, if you would. Jalen Williams

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Speaker 1: total shooting splits in the series. But I think he's

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Speaker 1: get a little bit better, and will Shay average thirty

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Speaker 1: but will he average thirty Well, he has all year,

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Speaker 1: and so I just think that there is there's not

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Speaker 1: a lot of adjustments Indiana can make aside from try

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Speaker 1: to get hot from three and that might be worth

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Speaker 1: be worth three games. And so we didn't end up

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Speaker 1: making the series exacta bets, which is, you know, game

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Speaker 1: one this way, Game two that way, so on and

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Speaker 1: so forth. And I'm glad we didn't because I obviously

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Speaker 1: the gas a bit and the Pacers steal Game three,

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Speaker 1: the Thunder already lost a game. I now feel like

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Speaker 1: there will be no foot off the gas in game three,

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Speaker 1: and the Thunder will be in position to retake home

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Speaker 1: court advantage in game three, which is what I fully

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Speaker 1: expect them to do. So before we get to Morche

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Speaker 1: and Haliburton stuff, Demonse, you I saw your kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah reaction. When I was saying that, I

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Speaker 1: thought there was just there was no spot where the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, they are out match.

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Speaker 2: I was just saying, like, with the first game, I

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Speaker 2: I think they had over twenty turnovers and they still

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Speaker 2: with those stats, I feel like they should be able

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Speaker 2: mismatches that Indiana can exploit. I understand that there is

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Speaker 2: not a single guy on there that you can just say,

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Speaker 2: go get a bucket or no. Yeah, they are outmatched,

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Speaker 2: but got And here's the.

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Speaker 1: Other piece of it. They win the turnovers. Thing isn't fluky.

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Speaker 1: This is what OKAC does to people. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 1: particularly this is one of the reasons. And I thought

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Speaker 1: this was a mistake. It was mistake, might be too strong,

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Speaker 1: but I was shocked that OKC changed their starting lineup

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Speaker 1: before Game one, that when they had been this dominant

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Speaker 1: you know, on the perimeter, and they they caused nineteen

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Speaker 1: first half turnovers in Game one. Now what was fluky

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Speaker 1: about that was despite causing all those turnovers, they weren't

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Speaker 1: off turnovers. But it's still dead possessions and there Listen.

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Speaker 1: It is incredibly difficult too. I know this is going

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Speaker 1: back me up on this. To win a championship, if

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Speaker 1: that is not a natural scorer, if you don't either

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Speaker 1: So when you look at the most traditional kind of

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Speaker 1: go and that Listen, I'm not putting Halliburton on the

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul ran into this where it's like, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: I am I'm the best player on the team. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And he never made He didn't make a finals until

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Speaker 1: but he's a career like eighteen point a game guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a pass first wizard who never had those dominant

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Speaker 1: some bad suspensions. I get it, though. Of the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: Chauncey did it, and Chauncey's not the caliber of those

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Speaker 1: two previous players, but that was the best defense in basketball.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas did it. But that was the best defense

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Speaker 1: He's a pass first guy, and those teams were championship caliber.

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Speaker 1: They just ran into the bulls. But you had stockedon,

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Speaker 1: will be like, well, Magic did it, and you can't

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Speaker 1: even be like, well he had Kareem because older man

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Speaker 1: like it the for the last couple championships that was

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Speaker 1: It's a little unfair to Cooozy, but they didn't win

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Speaker 1: hard to win four rounds if your best player can't

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why I have always been a defender

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Speaker 1: of Luca, even though people don't like the heliocentric style,

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Speaker 1: their core past first players, but they are also dominant scorers.

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Speaker 1: And so I know I'm kind of stepping a bit

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Speaker 1: because there's something specific about how he's playing. But it's

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Speaker 1: just it is. If you don't have if you are,

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Speaker 1: let me rephrase it, let me kind of turn it

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Speaker 1: had the bill, but we weren't. It hadn't started yet,

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Speaker 1: and I put it up there just as like a

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Speaker 1: little extra bonus for our friends at boost Mobile for

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Speaker 1: showing faith in the pod. But then Dexter, my dog,

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Speaker 1: walked in and sat right on the couch and blocked

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Speaker 1: the pillow the whole time, So now I have to

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Speaker 1: close the door. He's laying right there, right outside the door.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to figure that out because I do

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Speaker 1: like when he hangs out with me in here sometimes.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we need to get a second one in

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Speaker 1: case he knocks that one off. All right, Demanse, let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little more Halliburton and then get some other stuff.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, you touched on a little bit of Halliburton's

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00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: lackluster scoring ability. Rick Carlisle came in the conference and

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Speaker 2: backed him and said, you can't judge him off his

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Speaker 2: box score. He had five points and three quarters in

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Speaker 2: Game two. Do you think that everybody overreacted by crowding Halliburton?

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Speaker 1: The yeah, he does. No, I don't think everyone overacted.

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00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: I here's what I think. It's undeniable that what he

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Speaker 1: has done in the clutch is unprecedented. He's thirteen of

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Speaker 1: fifteen on game go ahead or game time shots in

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00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: the final minute this year. He has hit four de

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Speaker 1: facto buzzer beaters this playoffs. And one of my favorite things,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest with you guys, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite things about and this is why is a

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Speaker 1: bit of a sidebar. I'll get back to Halliburton, but

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Speaker 1: for years I have said that the next generation is

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Speaker 1: going to look back on the goat debate and be like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. That was a debate, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna look back on some of the arguments and say, no,

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00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: nobody actually said, you know, Lebron wasn't clutch. Nobody actually

459
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: did this stuff. And the reason that I have been

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00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: so confident in it was demonstrated, really, I think well

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Speaker 1: by what happened after Halliburton's last game winner, where all

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Speaker 1: over TV and all over social media are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of graphics and it's like, wow, Tyre's Halliburton now has

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00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: five five playoff game winners or game tires in the

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Speaker 1: final second in his career, and you know, here's his

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Speaker 1: percentage and this is unbelievable. And then you see it

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Speaker 1: and he's tied for second because Lebron has eight. And

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00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: then you see the other ones where it's like wow,

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Speaker 1: look at look at this guy's percentages and you see

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Speaker 1: it and then it's like, oh, wait, hold on, is

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Speaker 1: that Kobe at twenty two percent and Lebron at you

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Speaker 1: know whatever, it was fifty percent. I mean, Nate Tice

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Speaker 1: tweeted it, tweeted out, and I'm looking for it that

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Speaker 1: you know, all I can see. I'm looking at this

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Speaker 1: and all I can see is twenty two percent, which

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Speaker 1: was you know what, Kobe was four of twenty two

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Speaker 1: for his career. And I'm not trying to denegrate the

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Speaker 1: late great Kobe Bryant, but it was just about yeah,

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Speaker 1: here it is right here. So extra Stats had tweeted

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Speaker 1: most game tying or lead taking shots with under five

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Speaker 1: seconds left in the game in the playoffs since the

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Speaker 1: stat tracking era has started, and so since nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: And what you see is the you know guys with

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Speaker 1: four or more. It is Chris Middleton, Kobe Halliburton with five,

485
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Reggie with five, and Lebron with eight. And then you

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Speaker 1: look through it and you're like, you know, Lebron eight

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Speaker 1: of twenty, Reggie five of nine, Halliburton and impossible five

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Speaker 1: of six, Middleton four for eight, and Kobe four for

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Speaker 1: eighteen twenty two. And so there is an element of

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Speaker 1: the numbers are the numbers, and the facts are the facts.

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Speaker 1: And we are going to because of Lebron's longevity and

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Speaker 1: the fact that in the playoffs he has every record

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Speaker 1: there is for the next at least twenty five years

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Speaker 1: of basketball. Every time every single time a guy hits

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Speaker 1: a milestone or a threshold, there is going to be

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Speaker 1: a reminder to the audience that this player just became

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Speaker 1: the second youngest or the second oldest, or has the

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Speaker 1: second most and first on all of those lists is

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Speaker 1: going to be Bron.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how Burden might be first on that? On the

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Speaker 3: go ahead book, is he already got five? Took Lebron

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Speaker 3: like two years to get that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna get.

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Speaker 3: For in his whole career. He's already got five.

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Speaker 1: Kobe played twenty years, he got five. I'm the and

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00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: and so again like just man twenty four. Let me

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Speaker 1: go ahead and guess the twenty four is for Kobe

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Speaker 1: rights in the chat Bro, Come on, that's a longevity stat.

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Speaker 1: Game winners and percentage is a longevity stat. Okay, But

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00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: again there is there's no reconciling the percentages. They're just there.

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00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: There just isn't. And the the the playoff game winners,

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Speaker 1: Kobe's shooting eighteen of them and making four and Bron

514
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: shooting twenty and making eight, you can call that a

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Speaker 1: longevity staff. But you're just that's just what kids would

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Speaker 1: call cope. It's it's just I mean, it's just what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, And Haliburn's percentage is higher right now.

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Speaker 1: And no, well, Halliburn's percentage is the highest of any

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Speaker 1: exactly five on these Yeah, no listen, So to get

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Speaker 1: back to the Halliburn thing, because we're actually gonna talk

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Speaker 1: Lebron in a second. Anyway, he has been this clutch

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Speaker 1: run is one of the greatest, if not the greatest

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Speaker 1: single season clutch performance in playoff history. That's undeniable. It's

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Speaker 1: also that can be true, while it's also true that,

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Speaker 1: as I said earlier, for any NBA player, if they

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00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: cannot reliably go get you a bucket, it's there is

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00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: a ceiling on their consistent effectiveness offensively, that's all. And

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Speaker 1: so there is both things can be true that there

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Speaker 1: are ways to slow down Halliburton that that don't exist

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Speaker 1: to slow down most of the other superstars in this league.

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00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: But while also true he can impact the game differently

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Speaker 1: because of his passing, while also true that his clutch

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00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: stuff this postseason we've never seen before, Like you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, that's all. That's all part of the

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00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: story with him this year I'm going to add one

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: other thing though, demons for the Pacers before we move on,

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Speaker 1: And this is maybe the adjustment Carlisle needs to make,

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00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: And it's more about approach. The Pacers all year, if

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00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: they're not out running, have been a good shot, good shot,

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Speaker 1: great shot.

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Speaker 3: Team.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good look. Extra pass that's a good look.

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00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: One extra pass, that's a great look. Halliburton needs to

545
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: recognize that shit doesn't exist against the Thunder. What exists

546
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: against the Thunder is okay, look, decent look, bad look, turnover.

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Speaker 1: Like you have to be willing, especially if you're the

548
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: best player on the team and you know the the

549
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: engine of the offense, to take some shots you otherwise

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Speaker 1: wouldn't because a B minus look might be the best

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00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: look you're getting that that time up the court, and

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Speaker 1: that takes some adjustment, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: the you are not going to ball movement them into

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00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of wide open threes. They're too good. Yeah,

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00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: And so like that's that's something that you almost have

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Speaker 1: to retrain your yourself.

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Speaker 2: There are just times in the game where it like

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00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: flips on the Pacers where Halliburton has to just be

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Speaker 2: like I'm getting a bucket right here, like the crowd's

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00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: going crazy.

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Speaker 3: They just went up nineteen twenty one points. You gotta

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Speaker 3: go down and do something correct.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's speaking of Lebron. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little more Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Lebron might be the NBA's leading scorer, but uh,

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00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: what does that mean when you got no back?

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00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: On mine the game? Lebron said, I see all the time,

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Speaker 2: I'll be on social media like Lebron has no bag.

571
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: Lebron has no bag, and I'm sitting here like I

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00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: got fifty billion points. I thought he should have said

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00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: I've got fifty billion chips, like wordplay on like a

574
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: bag of chips. But to Lebron be the undisputed goat

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00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: if he's got no bag.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let me go. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: what do you think having a bag means? Because it's

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00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: this is not an agreed upon definition, and I think

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Speaker 1: this is an important piece to it. So I'm curious

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00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: where you what you think?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think having a bag is is James Harden

582
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: that's like like Steph Curry, just just a go to

583
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: move or or a bag of moves that you can

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Speaker 2: go to to break the defender down. I just think

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Speaker 2: it's offense. It's offensive game. I don't think it's like

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00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: anything outside of that.

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00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: No, So it's and it's a it's definitely offense and

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00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: definitely related to scoring. Yeah, right, Like I think everybody

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Speaker 1: agrees on that. So here is what I think is

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Speaker 1: fair and true, and here is what I think is

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00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: just nonsense. Right, So I think, what do you think

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00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: the weakest part of Lebron's offensive game is? Because I

593
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: think it's very clear. I think there is one thing

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Speaker 1: that offensively he is average at. I would say it's

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Speaker 1: just league.

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00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 3: Average stop go, stop start.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe we're saying the same thing just general ball handling.

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00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he's not an elite He's not an elite

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00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 1: ball handler. And so if people if by bag they

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Speaker 1: mean like a Kyrie's style, like fifteen dribble move, then sure,

601
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: then yeah, Lebron's not going to be one of your

602
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: top thirty picks of people when it comes to ball

603
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: handling like the he I think Duran at seven feet

604
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: tall might be a better ball handler like I do.

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00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: And so like that is to me, that's a if

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00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: that's what people are talking about, that's actually accurate. Now,

607
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: to Lebron's point, is it possible that not just kids

608
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but also retired NBA players on horrific podcasts

609
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: wildly overrate the bag. If to Lebron's point, he's got

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand points and doesn't have one, then yeah, then

611
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: maybe it's not quite as important as you think. So

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Speaker 1: if we're just saying bag is ball handling, then it's

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Speaker 1: probably It's probably true. Here is where I think it

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00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: gets a little though misconstrued or misleading. If by bag

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00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: people are talking about ability to score from anywhere on

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Speaker 1: the court at any time, Lebron's as good as anyone

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00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: in the history of the league being are. And this

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00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: is where and this is again where we will simply

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Speaker 1: run into folks who some I'm sure are in the

620
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: chat right now, who are going to try to douce

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Speaker 1: a lot of mental gymnastics around the numbers in the facts,

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00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: which is now Lebron early in his career, didn't you know,

623
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: was not a good jump shooter. But the benefit of

624
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: playing twenty two years is even if you weren't good

625
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: at something for the first seven there were fifteen years

626
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: you were good at it. So like even be like ah,

627
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: Lebron couldn't shoot. But by year nine he was literally

628
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: forty one percent from three. His third year in Miami,

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Speaker 1: I guess that would have been year ten, and then

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00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: you know that was year ten for him was still

631
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: the first half of his career. In Miami, he developed

632
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: his three point shot. His second stint in Cleveland, he

633
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: developed his mid range shot, particularly the turnaround, And since

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00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: then has been the idea that he's gotten his fifty

635
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: thousand points by putting his head down and just going

636
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: to the rim one hundred times a game. Again, that's

637
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: just blied by the data and by the date, I

638
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: mean the games are on TV. You can see where

639
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: the shots are made, all of it. That he has

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00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: the same shot. People talk about him as if he

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00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: has the same shot chart as Shack did. That it

642
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: was layup some free throw, dunk some free throw. But

643
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: this is where now we are, and this is why

644
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: and I you always have to be sensitive here because

645
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: of obviously the tragedy surrounding is passing, but the juxtaposition

646
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: of Kobe versus Lebron, as far as what the actual

647
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: truth is and was versus how they are remembered, has

648
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: always been very interesting because if you ask one hundred

649
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: NBA fans who was the better three point shooter, Kobe

650
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 1: or Lebron, the vast majority are going to say Kobe Bryant,

651
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: despite the fact that any possible way you slice it,

652
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: it's not true. And I will and that's you know,

653
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: that's bag for some, it's like your ability, like I said,

654
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: to score from all three levels. So Kobe for his

655
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: career was thirty two point nine percent from three. Lebron

656
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: for his career thirty four point nine percent from three. Oh, well, Nick,

657
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Kobe shot way more, No, he didn't. Kobe for his

658
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: career four point one attempts per game, Lebron for his

659
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: career four point seven attempts per game. Well, Kobe was

660
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: better in the playoffs. No, Kobe for his career from three,

661
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: his three point percentage is thirty three point one percent

662
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: on four attempts per game. Lebron for his career in

663
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: the playoffs is thirty three percent on four point one

664
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: attempts per game. Well, oh wait, hold on, I had

665
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: I got that last one exactly wrong. I apologize because

666
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: I read Kobe's I read Kobe STAPs twice. Kobe for

667
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: his career in the playoffs thirty three point one percent

668
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: on four attempts per game four point zero, exactly Lebron

669
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: for his career in the playoffs thirty three point three percent,

670
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 1: essentially the same Lebron to took better, but on four

671
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: point nine a tempts per game. Oh well, Nick, and

672
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: this is one you'll hear when people are really at

673
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: this point grasping, Nick, the game's changed so much, even

674
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: though Lebron and Kobe played in the league together for

675
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: a more than a decade. Okay, so if you just

676
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 1: take Lebron's career and stop it when Kobe retired, Kobe

677
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: again for his career thirty three point one one percent

678
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: on four point zero attempts per game. Look, that's for

679
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: the playoffs and for the regular season Kobe thirty two

680
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: point nine on four point one attempts per game, basically

681
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: identical for Kobe regular season of playoffs. He retired in

682
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Lebron his rookie year through the date of

683
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: Kobe's retirement the exact same number of three point attempts

684
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: per game four point zero, and Kobe's thirty two point

685
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: nine Lebron thirty four point zero. And so this isn't

686
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: a I'm not trying to do like a Kobe versus

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00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Lebron thing, because I think that's a silly, really untenable argument,

688
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: as much as people try to make it one. The

689
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: reason I am mentioning that is because that is as

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00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: clear and as clean and as matter of fact as

691
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: data can get, and people simply will say, I do

692
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: not believe that. That's not how I remember it, which

693
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: is that and the people in the chat can get

694
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: as angry as they want, and they say that's longevity,

695
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: even though it's per game, that that's a different era,

696
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: even if we just go year per year. In their

697
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: mind's eye, Kobe was a dominant three point assassin, and

698
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: in their mind's eye, Lebron was just putting his shoulder

699
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: down and get into the rim, despite the fact that

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00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: at the date of Kobe's retirement, he averaged the exact

701
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: same number of three point attempts per game as Lebron

702
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: did and shot him worse. It's just what the facts were.

703
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: So when Lebron is talking about I'm get on social

704
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: media and say Lebron doesn't have a bag or this

705
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: or that, it's because so much of that is it's

706
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: not revisionist history. It's just absolute fake news so to speak,

707
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: that people will believe to their dying breath. Like one

708
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: of the number one questions people will ask is, okay,

709
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: so whatever you're gonna say Lebron's better than Kobe because

710
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: of you know, he played longer or whatever it is. However,

711
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: but one shot life on the line, and then you

712
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: tell him, well, playoff game winners like we just talked

713
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: before Lebron took was eight of twenty, Kobe was four

714
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: of eighteen. People will simply say, I don't believe you,

715
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: even though it is what it is. And so now

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00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: doctor Frank says in the chat, but would you say

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00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: Kobe had a deeper bag than Lebron? I think there's

718
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: an argument there, yes, a hunt because I Kobe was

719
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: a better mid range shot maker than Lebron, and I

720
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: think Kobe was a better ball handler than Lebron.

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00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 2: That one I agree with there, Yeah, yeah, on the

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Speaker 2: back you Agreeeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is. But the that then circles back to

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00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: the more I think interesting question is, but then what

725
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: does it really matter except for again to be fair,

726
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: because I am I gotta tell you, among other things,

727
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm the most I'm the fairest arguer in sports media

728
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: because I will often make an argument, and while I'm

729
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: making it, because it's how my brain works, think like, oh,

730
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: does this contradict something you were making? Argument you're making

731
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: about something else, and how do you reconcile those two? So,

732
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: while how Deep your Bag is might be overrated when

733
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: it comes to your effectiveness as a player, as evidenced

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Speaker 1: by our discussion about why people were more maybe attracted

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00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: to Russell Westbrook's style of play than Shay Gilgess, Alexander's

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00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: how Deep your Bag is certainly has to do has

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: an impact on popularity, grabbing the casual fan highlights things

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Speaker 1: like that. That part there is a real impact, all right,

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Speaker 1: Deman's let's get to the New York Knicks before we

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Speaker 1: get to some NFL stuff.

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00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So, Whendhorses reported that there's mutual intrigue between

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00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: New York and Dallas head coach Jason Kidd. You mentioned

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00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: a few days ago, a couple of days ago, that

769
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Speaker 2: this might be an efforts to.

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Speaker 3: Push for Giannis.

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00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: Why would Dallas let this happen, Well, it's very interesting.

772
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: You could listen. Jason Kidd's history of forcing his way

773
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 1: out of situations or leaving tough situations in his wake

774
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: is somewhat legendary. Okay, so Tim bond Temps did a

775
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: good job describing describing this. But as a player, Jason

776
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Kidd was with the MAVs that thing within a couple

777
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: within a couple of years for a lot of reasons

778
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: we don't really need to get into. On the show

779
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: got toxic and he goes to Phoenix. That then at

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: the end it ran its course. He goes to the

781
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: Nets and it's awesome. Early on, they make two straight finals.

782
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: He arguably should have won MVP early on in his

783
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: career with the Nets. That then goes sideways. He goes

784
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: back to Dallas, then finishes his career with the Knicks.

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00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: He then for one year as head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. At the end of that year, he tries

787
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: to basically take over the team Uh, that doesn't work,

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00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: So he gets his way to Milwaukee. Then in Milwaukee

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: they end up souring on him, they fire him, and

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: now he's in Dallas. You know, he's with the Lakers briefly.

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00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: Now he's in Dallas, when even when he was with

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: the Lakers, there was like worry, like is he gonna

793
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 1: try to like unseat Vogel? But he goes to Dallas

794
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: and now he's in Dallas and it sure looks like

795
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: he would like to be the head coach of the Knicks.

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00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: And you can say, why would they let you, you know,

797
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: why would they allow it in Dallas? But the answer

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: to that is how messy does Jason Kidd want to

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: make this? Because you can't have a guy coach your

800
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: team that wants to coach another team. It's one of

801
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: those things like there are certain industries where a contract

802
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: really only as good as long as the person wants

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00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: to fulfill it. Like if if Demanse came in and

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00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: was like, hey, guys, I would like permission to interview

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: you to be on Rory and Mao and leave this show,

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00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: well then that kind of just means he doesn't want

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: to be on this show anymore. And even if I'm like, no,

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: you can't, it doesn't really mean like that. I think

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be right exactly. And so this idea

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: that like the Knicks want permission to interview kid, that's

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: not an interview. If somebody has a job and they're

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00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: going to talk to someone about another job, it's not

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: like a real negotiation. It's like you have that job now.

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: So I think go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you're saying the question was, how is

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 2: Dallas going to allow this to happen. I think that

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00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd wasn't involved when it was Luka Doncon's being

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00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: traded from the team. If he doesn't want to be

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: there and stay on that team and stay with the mess.

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00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 3: That was left, then so be it.

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00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: I think they should let the guy go if he

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: wants to go, no questions asked.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably how he would feel. And I

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00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: think that the fact that the Knicks the reporting is

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00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: the Knicks fired Thibodeau, and they seem to only want

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: coaches that are currently hired. It's like they're interested in

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00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Email Odoka who has a job, Jason Kidd, who has

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00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: a job. And then the reporting this weekend was Chris

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: Finch who has a job, and so I I think

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00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna get Kid. Now is that going to lead

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00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: to them getting the honest It certainly wouldn't hurt. Jiannis

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00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: really liked Kid and even if it's a longer term

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: play than just this this year, it seems like that's

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00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: the Knicks. That's the Knicks plan.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that he's the best options of the

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: than the other coaches if they don't get you honest.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think he's done a really good job in Dallas.

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01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: I also think that you know, you have to be prepared.

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01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: You have to understand Jason Kidd is going to leave

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01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: you at some point. Like there is an element of like,

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, if you get in a relationship with someone

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: who five of their previous six relationships have started with

843
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: someone new when they were already living with someone else,

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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: you kind of know that eventually you're going to be

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: the someone else. But you're just like, you know what,

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm up for the ride. Let's see how this goes.

847
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: So I think people you've got to go go into

848
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: that situation eyes wide open. But if it moves the

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: needle in your ability to get y honest, I think

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01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: that is uh. I think that is worth it. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's do a little NFL and then tennis corner and

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01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: then some listener questions because we're gonna go a little

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Speaker 1: too long today.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise, Aaron Rodgers officially a stealer. I think we found

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Speaker 2: out a little bit after Thursday's show. Pittsburgh Super Bowl

856
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: odds didn't change and their plus money to make the playoffs.

857
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Looks like TJ. Watt also wants a new contract. How

858
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: much does them acquiring Aaron Rodgers move the needle for you?

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Speaker 1: Not much at all. And listen, I think Pittsburgh made

860
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: a mistake in a lot of ways this offseason. And

861
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Speaker 1: I know Steeler fans probably are not going to want

862
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: to hear this, but I would have taken a totally

863
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Speaker 1: different tact. I would have actually gone the opposite to

864
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: de Mons, and I would have started fresh, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: I would not have traded for DK Metcalf, would have

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Speaker 1: traded away George Pickens. I would not give TJ. Watt

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Speaker 1: a new contract. I would I think you get a

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Speaker 1: first round pick and something for TJ. Watt. And I

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Speaker 1: probably would have said Mason Rudolph take the reins, buddy,

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Speaker 1: and I would have gone into next year with multiple

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Speaker 1: first round picks, multiple second round picks. My own bad

872
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: pick because I'm a team that doesn't have TJ. Watt

873
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: or George Pickens or DK Metcalf and Mason Rudolph is

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01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: my starting quarterback. And I would say, we're having a

875
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: one year reset and we're cleaning all our books up,

876
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: we're getting young, we're gonna crush the draft, and we're

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01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a franchise quarterback. That's the tact I would

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01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: have taken. Instead, they traded for DK Metcalf. I think

879
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: they are going to give TJ. Watt a new contract,

880
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: and they signed Aaron Rodgers. You know, fingers crossed hope

881
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: against hope. We can go eleven and eight, and by

882
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: eleven and eight, I mean ten and seven, sneak into

883
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs, win a playoff game, losing round two. That

884
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: is what the That's not what I think they're gonna do.

885
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go seven and ten. But but

886
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: the that's the goal. The goal is to break this

887
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: damn near decade long streak of not winning a playoff game.

888
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: And I just think this is a huge mistake and

889
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: and Aaron is gonna talk today, and I'm curious what

890
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: he says, but that that's what I that's where I

891
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,479
Speaker 1: think this is going. All right, let's go to our

892
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: tennis corner, demons.

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01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: Yes, the French Open wrapped up with Cocoa Golf winning

895
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: our first final at Ronald Garrow's gar.

896
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: French Open site.

897
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: The crazy comeback against Center. It's time for tennis corner.

898
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: Let's go. I'm ready for your knowledge, all.

899
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: Right, So listen Coco getting the French Open and beating Sablenka,

900
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: and listen. It was a little marred a bit by

901
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, some less than gracious comments by Sabalanca,

902
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: But whatever that was, that was an awesome moment and

903
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: it was it in most tennis tournaments would have been

904
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: the moment of the tournament. But my guy, Carlos Alcarez

905
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: being down triple match points and fighting that off and

906
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: then going from there to winning the entire thing in

907
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: a five set, five and a half hour epic. It

908
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: is on the short list of five or six greatest

909
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: matches in modern tennis history. That is not an exaggeration.

910
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: And the fact that he now is sitting there at

911
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: twenty three years old and has five grand slams. The

912
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: only one he's missing is the Australian. He is a

913
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: back to back Wimbledon winner, a back to back French

914
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: Open winner, has won the US Open once and will

915
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: go into Wimbledon as the huge I would imagine huge

916
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: favor's probably wrong, but a significant and favorite. And that

917
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, when he was twenty years old,

918
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: he beats Rude to win the US In twenty twenty three,

919
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: he beats Joker in the Wimbledon final. In twenty twenty four,

920
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 1: he beats Joker in the Wimbledon final. This last year

921
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: in the French Open final, he beats Zverev in another classic.

922
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: And then this year he beats Center in an all

923
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: all time match. Doing that where he is beaten everyone

924
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:54,959
Speaker 1: that matters, four championships essentially, and he is at twenty three,

925
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: the not not just the face but then next guy

926
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: up as just an all time legend in the field

927
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: at that age is really remarkable. And I said, I've

928
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: been saying he's twenty three? Am I wrong? Is he

929
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: twenty two? And I and I just have that wrong.

930
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: I this whole week, I thought he was doing all

931
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: this at twenty three, But I but this is what

932
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm currently looking at, says that he just turned it.

933
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: Could I thought he just turned twenty three? This is

934
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: saying he just turned twenty two. The Internet's not as

935
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: reliable as it once was. Regardless, is an all time match.

936
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: And I do have to say I am so thrilled

937
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: for my friend Adam Lefgo, who got that tabbed by

938
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: TNT to be the host of their French open cover

939
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: for these last two weeks and just absolutely crushed it.

940
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: And I just cannot help but think back to the

941
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and six was it two thousand? What was

942
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: the Adrian Peterson Draft? I have to look was Adrian

943
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: Peterson two thousand? That was he two thousand and seven? Yeah? Okay.

944
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: April twenty eighth, two thousand and seven, on Z eighty

945
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 1: nine at Syracuse University, there was a six hour live

946
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: NFL draft show on the radio, and the hosts of

947
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: that show were me, Danny Parkins, Adam Lefgo. It was

948
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: the first time I'm the three of us. Danny and

949
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: left Goo were tight. Lefto and I didn't know each

950
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 1: other as well because he did a lot of TV

951
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: stuff and was a year younger than me, but we

952
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: did that radio show together and Danny now after being

953
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: a longtime radio star in Chicago host breakfast Ball, I'm

954
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: me and left go is just you know, outside of

955
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: the inside the NBA, you know main crew, the guy

956
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: at Turner Sports. It's just so cool. And I'm so

957
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: happy that he that everybody loved his coverage and everything

958
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 1: he did, so that that really thrilled me. All right.

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01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: Reminder everyone like rate subscribe review. That really does help

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Speaker 1: us out. The producers want a world series of poker recap. Guys,

961
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 1: the body's not even cold yet. I'm not ready to

962
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: talk about it. We can, however, do some listener questions.

963
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 3: Go ahead, uh, Mary says, let the dog in.

964
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: Let's see if you're sitting right out here, hold on,

965
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: Probably there is come on, decks, all right, he's just chilling.

966
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't need to come in. Maybe he

967
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: will come here, decks getting up, He'll probably just hop

968
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: on that couch. All right, Go ahead.

969
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,639
Speaker 2: Very playoffs starts next week. Demonsay, I think we play

970
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: your team in the first round. Very nice meeting, by

971
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: the way, nice meaning her Eric. I did see him

972
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: last last Tuesday. Last month Tuesday was.

973
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: How's the basketball going?

974
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: Basketball is going good. We lost that game.

975
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 2: I was there, Uh it was I think we lost

976
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: by like seven, but we honestly, we never have more

977
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: than a single sub is the problem.

978
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: Now we're sorry. This is why I couldn't let the

979
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: dog in. I gotta close the door. Now the hold

980
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: on that. Okay, but the playoffs haven't started yet, so

981
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: your team's still alive.

982
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly thought today was playoffs and the game's

983
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 2: kind of late.

984
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: Honestly, listen, Eric might be trying to sandbag you, so

985
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: like the the I mean, if I if I were you,

986
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: i'd make sure.

987
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: Says, does demons have a bag?

988
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: You know, my left hand was never the best.

989
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 3: I got a bigger bag than Lebron. Though.

990
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: If I dribbled like Lebron in high school, my cult

991
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: would have maybe just dribbled with my left hand the

992
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: entire time.

993
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: Do layups left hand?

994
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, everybody else did the right hand, left hand, right side.

995
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: He made me do that, but uh, well, yeah.

996
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 3: I've got a bag.

997
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: Go ahead, matt Ford. Did you see mission impossible yet?

998
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 2: But then he's starting to be I did not?

999
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: Oh oh you yeah, he's asking me not yet. I'm

1000
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: gonna see it. This week though I was busy.

1001
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 3: Let's see it this week, Trace says Nick.

1002
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm not answering any World Series of Poker. Oh yeah,

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01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to do that yet.

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Dub says, since twenty twenty one, Trevor Lawrence leads the

1005
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: NFL and turnovers, what more will it take for you

1006
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: to finally concede that you were wrong about him?

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 1: Let's see how this year goes. W Let's just see

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01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: how this year goes. Let's see how this year goes.

1009
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: This is a big year for trev So let's just

1010
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: see how it goes.

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01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: This is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the year. And that's where listen, that's

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Speaker 1: where we'll leave it. I gotta run. Great job, Demond's

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