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Speaker 1: Welcome to games names.

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Speaker 2: I'm Julian Edelman, and we got a brand new compilation

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Speaker 2: highlight reels starting now now.

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Speaker 3: Antonio Gates on his Elite eight run with Kent State

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Speaker 3: during March Madness.

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Speaker 2: Walk us through this Elite eight run, bro, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I just remember we were talking about I was there, like,

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Speaker 2: what five six years after you yeah, four or five

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Speaker 2: years at six whatever we were talking about that. I

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we had the Elite eight run last year.

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Speaker 2: We used that last year because you like ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it was man.

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Speaker 4: That was the thing about being in college and you know,

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Speaker 4: making a run like that.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing to do with money.

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Speaker 4: It's all about relationships and friendships and pride and plan

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Speaker 4: for one another. That's why that was one of the

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Speaker 4: most special moments of my life. That was the first

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Speaker 4: time not the first time, but that was really the

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Speaker 4: last moment of when it had absolutely nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with finances and business. It was just like, dude, we

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Speaker 4: are all trying to get somewhere special, and we're all

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Speaker 4: trying to do something special. I remember were playing Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: and I was just remember, like, these dudes, some dogs.

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh had some tough, tough players. Man, but we had that.

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Speaker 4: You know that's that you know that, Yeah, but we

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Speaker 4: got that. Still y'all think because we at Kent State

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Speaker 4: that y'all better And I'm here. I'm here to tell

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Speaker 4: you from going to the Big ten and making that

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Speaker 4: transition to the MAC, the only difference is that it's

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Speaker 4: just a size.

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Speaker 1: It's a fit thing, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: They wanted a guy six eight six nine to play

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Speaker 4: the wing at Michigan State. At Kent State, these dudes

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Speaker 4: are six five six four. But when I got there

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Speaker 4: and you know this man playing in the MAC, You're like,

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Speaker 4: these dudes can play. These dudes can play. They play hard,

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Speaker 4: and that's to catch. They play hard at every play.

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Speaker 4: So I felt like going in the MAC and playing

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Speaker 4: in the MAC was easier than making the run in

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Speaker 4: the lead. They I felt like the dudes that Theron Smith,

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Speaker 4: the Brandon Hunters, the Keith mccleous of the world, the

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Speaker 4: freaking Marshall had Black sher you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: They felt harder than the guys I was going against

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Speaker 4: and these big programs because they were still like, you

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Speaker 4: know what a chip on the show they I mean,

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Speaker 4: they can put it on the floor. They can hit

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Speaker 4: the mid range, they can hit you from three, they

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Speaker 4: can make the right pass.

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Speaker 1: They were strong enough.

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Speaker 4: They was quick enough, were tall enough, wasn't tall enough,

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Speaker 4: or they didn't have the you know, off the charts

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Speaker 4: jumping abilities when you see him play, they didn't do that.

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Speaker 4: They didn't make you why it wasn't the wild play.

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Speaker 4: And I think you can you know, obviously you played

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Speaker 4: and you moved on. Same thing. It's like guarding you,

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Speaker 4: you know on thirty eight. You know, yeah, But once

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Speaker 4: you get out there, you're like, damn.

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Speaker 1: He can go left, he can go right.

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Speaker 5: He actually he can beat you deep too.

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Speaker 6: If you playing around, he can beat you.

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Speaker 4: Then you'll see a guy that make a big play

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Speaker 4: and you'll be like, okay, he's going he's the first

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Speaker 4: pick in the draft. But when you get out there,

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Speaker 4: it changes the dynamic. And I believe I used this

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Speaker 4: word and they asked me what what how I would

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Speaker 4: describe myself as how I would describe you too, Julian.

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Speaker 4: I think we were just ultimate competitors, fierce bro like,

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Speaker 4: like dude, we can we can me and you. Right now,

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Speaker 4: I can probably start playing something and it'd.

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Speaker 1: Get real, get real.

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Speaker 6: Hot hit right.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So fierce competitor, man, that was

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Speaker 4: what I brought to the table. That's why I played

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Speaker 4: the game in basketball. It didn't matter. I made that

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Speaker 4: just miss as I went. If I felt like you

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Speaker 4: was too slow, I'm gonna take you on the wing,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna penetrate you. If I felt like you was smaller,

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Speaker 4: I ain't shooting no jumpers on you. I'm going we

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Speaker 4: go into the block every time. You're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 4: pay the fact that you're smaller. And that's how I

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Speaker 4: played the game football.

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Speaker 1: That's how I played.

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Speaker 3: Next, Baron Davis tells his crazy story about going one

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Speaker 3: on one with Kobe at U c l A.

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Speaker 1: I do got a funny story. So we played.

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Speaker 7: Uh I was at U c l A. I heard

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Speaker 7: my knee. We're practicing. Now I can't practice. So U

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Speaker 7: about eight already. Kobe walks in with his trainer and

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Speaker 7: so you know, everybody on the team like, oh shit,

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Speaker 7: you know, like it's Kobe.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 7: I was like, oh, you probably got the gym for

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Speaker 7: after our practice to like work out and he came early,

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Speaker 7: so he was like, you know, So the practice walked

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Speaker 7: through very respectful, went on.

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Speaker 1: The side and was just like shooting. I was like, damn, dude,

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Speaker 1: Kobe over there. So I just like start.

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Speaker 7: Making my way over to the side. And then I'm like, coach,

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Speaker 7: can you know, let me rebound for him? Ain't nobody

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Speaker 7: there to rebound? So he shooting him rebounding for him?

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Speaker 7: You know, he just he ain't even really doing nothing.

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Speaker 7: He's just like, you know, he's just talking. Then I

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Speaker 7: passing the ball and I just do the fake close

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Speaker 7: out and about a fourth time throwing the ball and

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Speaker 7: it's like, bro, we are in a full on one

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Speaker 7: on one game. Was in a one on one game.

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Speaker 7: I was like, man, I gotta get this one on

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Speaker 7: one thing. When I look up the whole u c

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Speaker 7: l A team stop and they watching me and Koby play.

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Speaker 1: One on one, and I was like, man, you know

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Speaker 1: he beat me.

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Speaker 8: Hurt?

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Speaker 1: You're hurt? Yeah, I'm hurt.

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Speaker 7: That's the only And we used to argue all the

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Speaker 7: time we've seen each Every time we see each other,

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Speaker 7: I'll be like, bro, you know you can't beat me

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Speaker 7: one on one.

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Speaker 1: He was like, Bro, already beat you. He's like, bro,

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Speaker 1: already beat you. I was like, come on, dag, like

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Speaker 1: you know I was hurt. You know I was beat you.

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Speaker 7: I was like, all right, And so we were supposed

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Speaker 7: to the year I got hurt in my career ended.

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Speaker 7: We had dinner in New York before like during the Linsanity.

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Speaker 7: I was like, hey, bro, Jeremy Len gonna bust y'all lass.

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you we're sending at dinner. He was like,

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Speaker 7: come on, y'all chill. I was like, all right, bro,

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you, like he on the road, do not

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Speaker 7: do not let this dude bust your ass because I'm

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Speaker 7: telling you he everybody is coming in here getting their

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Speaker 7: head cracked.

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Speaker 1: Come on beating. I said, all right, dude.

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Speaker 7: And so we made a bet that after the season,

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Speaker 7: we're gonna rematch the one on one game, and if

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Speaker 7: he beat me, I came to the Lakers, you know

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Speaker 7: what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And then I was.

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Speaker 7: Like, well, if I beat you, you know what do

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Speaker 7: I get? He was like, man, I come speak at

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Speaker 7: your basketball.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 9: And then when I thought about it, I was like, well,

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Speaker 9: you know it is Kobe, Like my whole career is

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Speaker 9: projecting on him. Beat me, and like if I beat A,

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Speaker 9: he gonna go speak at my basketball camp.

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Speaker 6: Like next up.

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Speaker 3: Joe Mizula on his Final four run with West Virginia

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Speaker 3: and playing for Bob Huggins.

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Speaker 2: He played at West Virginia, went to a final four. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and explain this, like, how was that experience? You got

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Speaker 2: to play in a final four? That's insane?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think, uh, it was such a

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Speaker 10: it went by so fast. It does went by so

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Speaker 10: fast that the week leading up to it went by

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: First, like college, I had two great coaches and I

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Speaker 10: started out with coach b Line. It was great, and

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Speaker 10: then I you know, and then I started and then

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Speaker 10: I went to coach Huggins. It was phenomenal. And then

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Speaker 10: we just had great teammates, like and that you wereent

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Speaker 10: to the final four. It kind of all came together.

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Speaker 10: But that was when I realized that, like, man, winning

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Speaker 10: is not as fun as people think it is. Like

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Speaker 10: it's it wasn't an easy year like we were in

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Speaker 10: the I think we were in top top ten most

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Speaker 10: of the year. I think we finished thirty one and

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Speaker 10: nine or something like that, but one and seven, But

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Speaker 10: it never felt like that.

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Speaker 5: It felt like we were five hundred the whole year.

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Speaker 10: And that was that that prepared me for kind of

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Speaker 10: where we're at now and the healthy approach to like

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Speaker 10: nothing is ever going to be good enough when you

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Speaker 10: have a responsibility to greatness and so like I just

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Speaker 10: remember like practices being miserable. Like it was like, man,

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Speaker 10: this this responsibility to winning goes beyond the joys of winning,

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Speaker 10: and you have to fight for their perspective, but you

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Speaker 10: also have to take on That was the biggest thing

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Speaker 10: I learned. Like, we lost the game of New Year's

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Speaker 10: Eve to Purdue and we got smacked, and you would

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Speaker 10: have thought the season was over, and yet I think

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Speaker 10: we were like still top ten. And so it was

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Speaker 10: a great balance of learning you know what comes with

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Speaker 10: success and how you have to handle that throughout the season.

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Speaker 5: And you know, we had we had great guys that

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Speaker 5: were able to to just bring us there.

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Speaker 2: Now, who would bring that mindset of mediocrity even though

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Speaker 2: you guys were above you guys were fucking thirty one

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Speaker 2: and seven. Was that Bob Huggins? Oh yeah, how was

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Speaker 2: it playing for him?

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Speaker 10: He's alleged he is a legend, very misunderstood guy, but

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Speaker 10: he was the best, and he was very He reminded

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Speaker 10: me of my father, but he was the best.

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Speaker 1: To play for.

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Speaker 2: Wow, how did he remind your father?

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Speaker 10: Just no nonsense, had a nate ability to fuck you

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Speaker 10: and I love you became synonymous and you couldn't tell

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Speaker 10: which one was which.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the best way to describe it.

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Speaker 10: Like sometimes when it was fuck you, I was hearing

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Speaker 10: I love you, and sometimes when I was hearing I

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Speaker 10: love you, I was hearing fuck you.

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Speaker 5: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: It does? It's bad that I know and understand that.

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Speaker 10: And so like so like my dad and like coach

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Speaker 10: Hugs were like the same there where it was like

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Speaker 10: I just couldn't tell what it was that day, but

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Speaker 10: you knew it was to get the best out of you.

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Speaker 10: It was the only thing he cared about, was like

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Speaker 10: getting the best out of you, and he'll go to

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Speaker 10: any measure possible to get the best out of you.

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Speaker 10: There was no restrictions towards that. But the best thing

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Speaker 10: he did was when the game or the practice was over.

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Speaker 10: He never brought that energy. He never brought that energy

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Speaker 10: from what he was doing on the sideline to what

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Speaker 10: he was what you were doing.

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Speaker 5: Off the court. I mean then I think that's a

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Speaker 5: huge balance for a coach. Yeah, that's I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, people don't what goes on in a game is

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Speaker 2: different than that. I think that's what the good coaches

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Speaker 11: You know, here's funny. Nobody ever gave me anything. Someone

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Speaker 2: You know what I was going to ask?

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Speaker 2: I was and say you got you got family. I

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Speaker 3: These were good Georgia. These were final four Georgia Tech teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's out?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: So but I met him in a pickup game and

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Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve.

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Speaker 5: Now, how sad is that packed? I don't pack once.

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Speaker 8: Once you go to college and start and it's not

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Speaker 12: It's pro. It's pro. It's pro. Kids are staying in

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Speaker 2: But no Pac twelve rip. I'm West Coast kid. Loved it,

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Speaker 2: fucking you know the A PAC twelve game that started

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Speaker 2: at ten eleven o'clock at night. Bill Walton's over were

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Speaker 2: talking about fucking mushroom.

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Speaker 1: Love Bill.

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Speaker 2: I love Bill watch he's great.

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Speaker 8: Al RP.

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Speaker 1: You got any Bill Waltons star?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because Bill Bill was a friend because he would

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Speaker 8: and forth. You say, something I say something with Bill.

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Speaker 8: See so Bill, how is man? My life is so great?

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Speaker 8: That's the greatest life I've ever had at this point

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Speaker 8: seven minutes. Yeah, your Bill Walton impression is just and

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Speaker 8: you're like, like, what was like playing in Boston? Boston

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Speaker 8: And if I never ever thought I would ever finish

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Speaker 3: Next up, Shane Battier talks about his early college days

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Speaker 13: Take us back to the year two thousand. You're in Durham,

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Speaker 14: I was very serious, very very serious. I was always

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Speaker 13: Should Did they try to get you to party?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 6: I had fun.

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Speaker 14: I had fun. For me, I was, I was having fun,

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Speaker 14: It was a mission. It was a mission trip for me.

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Speaker 14: What wasn't a party time?

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Speaker 13: How do they ease in a Shane Battier in a

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Speaker 14: You know what I didn't drink until my senior year

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Speaker 3: Was I was.

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Speaker 5: I need to go to the gym.

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Speaker 14: So you know, she can't back around. They all come

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Speaker 13: Glue guy, straight glue guy. That's the competitor in him.

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Speaker 13: He was like, I'm down for the count, but I'll

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 14: All they all come back.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you gotta let him. You gotta you

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Speaker 2: And then when they come back, you know, you know.

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Speaker 3: Now, Gilbert Arenas on his hatred for duke players in

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Speaker 13: We got to ask you because we had Shane Badia

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Speaker 5: A trash straight trash bro.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, what was what's your relation bake with Shane?

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Speaker 5: You know you were hurt that game, right, you were hurt?

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Speaker 15: I was, I was hurt. I just hate all Duke players,

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Speaker 15: Like it's just one of those things that you just

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Speaker 15: And he was on a team that that defeated us.

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Speaker 15: He was you know, he was a great leader. You

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Speaker 5: Now did beat us?

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Speaker 2: Did Coach k come try to mentor you guys after

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Speaker 15: No, no, I don't think he was coming into the

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Speaker 4: Remember to tune in every Tuesday for a brand new episode,

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Speaker 4: and every Sunday for another Games with names highlight yay,