WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Unc & Iso Joe react to the Pacers blowing out the Thunder to force Game 7!

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<v Speaker 2>Tell on, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us for another episode of Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a game seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Game six wasn't really that interesting, especially if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But Indiana came to play tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of speculation of whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>Tyrese Haliburton would play.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did he play, he played extremely well.

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<v Speaker 2>But again it was the bench TJ McConnell Obie topping

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<v Speaker 2>that got them going and they did not look back.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, but it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable you got this obviously when Tom is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they got Tom one hundredth anniversary jacket or he's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the one hundred best players in NFL history. They

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<v Speaker 2>got Super Bowl ring, they got a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>up there. I mean, just unbelievable. Coach and Belichick's hoodie,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Lombardi Trophies. So if you're ever in Vegas,

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<v Speaker 2>minutes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be glad you did. So. Thank you Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Excellence for having me over there. Last night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Joe, the Pacers beat the Thunder, so we

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<v Speaker 2>do have a game seven on Sunday one eight to

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<v Speaker 2>ninety one. Nobody, I mean really, no one from the

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder played really well. Thunder had five turnovers in the

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter, I mean first quarter. Seven in the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>so they had twelve turnles at the half. Obi Topping

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<v Speaker 2>had four three pointers. The Thunder starters had won. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the best we see. Look Pacers to play some

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<v Speaker 2>really good basketball this postseason. Joe, But tonight the way

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<v Speaker 2>they swarmed, they for shade eight turnovers seven to fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>oh one, seven of eight, but for turnovers minus seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty one minutes. Jalen Williams, who coming up that

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<v Speaker 2>had a forty point game the other night, played sensational.

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<v Speaker 2>He was minus forty and the plus minus six or

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen oh four, four or five and only twenty seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe. TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>McConnell is the first bench player in NBA history sixty

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<v Speaker 2>plus points, twenty five plus assists, fifteen plus rebounds, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the NBA Finals he's doing this offer and

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at him, I know they said they

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it, Joe, They looking at it, Jose about bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I will cook old boy. Yep. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the next day, you know, Eden told you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it, and he's like, damn well. TJ got deep

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<v Speaker 2>even us tonight. Joe, what did you like about what

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<v Speaker 2>you saw from the Pacers, because there were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of uncertain dys Tyreese Halliburton gonna play if he doesn't play,

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<v Speaker 2>can win without him? If he does play, how you

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<v Speaker 2>know how liberty would he be? What did you like most?

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<v Speaker 2>What impressed you most about Indiana? Man haller Berry pulling

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<v Speaker 2>our leg? Is he pulling our leg?

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<v Speaker 1>Man? Come on now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah something hey? But anyway, uh, I thought Indiana played great.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that, you know, to get off to a

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<v Speaker 2>good start. I thought, okay, see started the game off

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. I was like, okay, they look he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put these boys away. They ain't gonna play with him

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<v Speaker 2>and man as soon as they start. As soon as

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana started subbing, TJ came in. I think his energy,

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<v Speaker 2>his effort is so infectious to the other teammates that

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<v Speaker 2>they feed off that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is he the guy? No, he's not the.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, but the energy and effort that he plays with

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<v Speaker 2>you can't substitute for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. He's making plays on both ends of the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Offensively, it's almost like OKAYC was like, Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let TJ. If he gonna be if he gonna turn

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<v Speaker 2>into AI and score all the points, we just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play him one on one and we're gonna let were

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<v Speaker 2>gonn't let him score as much as he can. But defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>he was swarming. You know, you got you get these

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<v Speaker 2>other guys involved, and it's like they were like two

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<v Speaker 2>or three steps faster than ok C the knife for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason. You know, after after probably the first couple

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<v Speaker 2>of minutes, it's like Indiana took over Man.

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<v Speaker 1>They never looked back.

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<v Speaker 2>They killed them in every quarter except you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, the last quarter where yet don't count because

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<v Speaker 2>they were down thirty going into the fourth. Man, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was a sight to see I hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 2>Okay see play like this a lot throughout this postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>and to see every guy in that starting lineup with

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<v Speaker 2>negatives plus minus negatives by their name, Uh Indiana just

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<v Speaker 2>had more more It's like more resilience to night.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what was they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they didn't want them boys to close them out

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<v Speaker 2>on their home floor, and they played like it to night.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a great game. Absolutely, Yeah, boy, Joe, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought they played. I thought they played a great game.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they energy and effort was there. Defensively, they

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<v Speaker 2>were swarming. They killed him in every category, meaning every

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was rebottom out see it still it's like blocks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>see had no chance, they had no chance. They looked

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<v Speaker 2>when they got down. I hadn't seen, like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen Oka See looked like that, you know

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<v Speaker 2>throughout this postseason. But when they got down, they looked

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<v Speaker 2>like they didn't have what it what it took to

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<v Speaker 2>come back, and uh Indiana just kept pulling it, kept

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<v Speaker 2>pulling it. So I give a lot of credit obviously

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<v Speaker 2>to they bench, who has been tremendous. Indiana's bench has

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<v Speaker 2>been great. You know, throughout this whole postseason. You look

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<v Speaker 2>at Topping with twenty points, TJ with twelve, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just had a bunch of guys chip in Man and defensively.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, this is probably one of the best outputs

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<v Speaker 2>they did that they put out, you know, pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>throughout this whole postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't start off very well because I think they

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<v Speaker 2>missed like their first eight shots. I mean they were

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<v Speaker 2>they were rushing and seemed like everybody wanted to make beat,

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<v Speaker 2>make make their the run by themselves to make okay

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<v Speaker 2>See give up. But once they got it going, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>they got it going, they couldn't stop them, Joe. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they and all of a sudden they couldn't make

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<v Speaker 2>it three. Now, all of a sudden they couldn't miss

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<v Speaker 2>a three. And once they got it Florida me, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, man, Indiana's played extremely well. But then they

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<v Speaker 2>allowed okay See to cut it to close it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay okay See finished this quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>I was strong because it's always okay, how do we start,

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<v Speaker 2>then how do we finish? You're always trying to close

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<v Speaker 2>out a quarter, end of the first, going into half,

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<v Speaker 2>going it into the four, you know, the third, going

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<v Speaker 2>into the fourth, and I thought okay See did a

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<v Speaker 2>very good job of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, when they started that second quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They opened up a can on them, Joe, they opened

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<v Speaker 2>up a can on them, And you're absolutely right. Jayalen Williams,

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<v Speaker 2>who came out for forty point effort in Game six,

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<v Speaker 2>he has the lowest plus minus and finals game in

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<v Speaker 2>the play by play era. He was minus forty. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be looking to get that get back on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Shade's gonna play as bad as he played.

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<v Speaker 2>Shade have played that bad. It was just hard. The

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<v Speaker 2>shot that he normally would make he didn't get through.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't get that bounce tonight. But I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it was again you look at it sixteen ten, seventeen, fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twelve. The six guys in double figures again. You

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<v Speaker 2>know they normally keep five, six guys in double figures.

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<v Speaker 2>Some casually they'll speak a seventh guy in there and

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<v Speaker 2>get him in double figure. Miles Turner didn't play his

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<v Speaker 2>you know, only one field goal tonight, one of nine

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<v Speaker 2>from the floor, all three from the three, one of

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<v Speaker 2>two from the free throw line. But you know, Man

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<v Speaker 2>Siakam was good, Nie Smith was good, nim Hard Tyre's

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<v Speaker 2>Halliburton was sensational.

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<v Speaker 1>Obi Topping was sensational. TJ. McConnell. I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you say about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean he's the I en the job

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<v Speaker 2>of Bunny And I thought in the second quarter of

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<v Speaker 2>what they did is they played him and Haliburton together. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, I Hallerburton didn't really have a problem with

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<v Speaker 2>him having the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just Holly looked like he was a step fast

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<v Speaker 2>today than he was in Game five. Yeah, and for me,

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<v Speaker 2>damn they man, they put up a performance against OKC today.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at uh, you look at Caruso. He had

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<v Speaker 2>many points as me and you had to night. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he got some cardio in. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't win without their bench contributing unless Shay and

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<v Speaker 2>and and Williams go off.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, it's just look look at check Hungwark like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I don't know, man, they seemed a little

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<v Speaker 2>disinterested once they got down.

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<v Speaker 1>They just could not get back in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Once Indiana one of them, one of their big run

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of separated themselves. You I thought that okay

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<v Speaker 2>C had a run them, especially the second half, but Indiana, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they were they were flaming. Man, they was going, they

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<v Speaker 2>were going. You couldn't. You couldn't slow them down. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying about everybody on their team was scoring, defensively, were

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<v Speaker 2>in tune, and they just seemed like a well or

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<v Speaker 2>engine knight who could not be stopped. And that's uncharacteristic

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<v Speaker 2>of OKC, especially defensively.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh s g a eight turnovers to assist time for

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<v Speaker 2>the host turnovers in a game six in finals history.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like I said he did, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't couldn't get his offensive game going, and he

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get anybody well, I don't know if he couldn't,

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<v Speaker 2>No one could make shots. Eight turnovers like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>they had twelve at the half. They did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job when he turned his back CJ. Mcconnells looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the pick his pockets. Uh, they gave him a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of different looks tonight. They did a great job, but

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<v Speaker 2>they knew had to do a great job or else

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<v Speaker 2>they were going home.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, no one wants to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easier losing or you lost as a low

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<v Speaker 2>But are you I damn sure don't want you to

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated on my court.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you celebrated. You know, all my fans

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<v Speaker 1>done gone home.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody disappointed, and a handful of fans that y'all got

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<v Speaker 2>in there, they said, yeah, and y'all dappling them up,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all drinking champagne.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah nah, hell nah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Look, I think I think Indiana really fed off

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<v Speaker 2>the crowd, especially a lot of them old venturing guys

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<v Speaker 2>who've been on a round played for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Regide Miller was there, Ronal tests.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coming back showing them guys love and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's an extra incentive, meaning you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't wanna lose on your home court like that, and

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<v Speaker 2>had him got celebrated, And I thought they played like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean from the obviously, after the first what three

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<v Speaker 2>four minutes they settled in, they started making shots, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a rap. Halibert didn't even look like he

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<v Speaker 2>had Andrew that night the way he was did not.

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<v Speaker 1>He did not, But I thought he did a better

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<v Speaker 1>job of getting to a spot.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a right handed I was watching the thing today

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<v Speaker 2>and they tuck tracking where he shoots the ball from. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>prior to the night, he had only made like one

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<v Speaker 2>or two shots from in their playoffs, and on the

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<v Speaker 2>left side, so he must have seen all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is to the right. Yeah, he must have seen it too,

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<v Speaker 2>because he started making some shots. Hey, he making some

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<v Speaker 2>shots over there on their left side. Man, he did, Hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this game seven, I don't know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know. I'm gonna be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>I would not be shocked at the Pacers because I

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<v Speaker 2>believe if we talked about this Joe in game six,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Rick Carlile should have went with a TJ

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<v Speaker 2>McConnell once he was Tyreez Haliburton was getpy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should have rolled.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he should have rode TJ McConell a little more,

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<v Speaker 2>a little longer. He went back, and I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a veteran guy. You know, he's the said of

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<v Speaker 2>your team. But that night he didn't have it and

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<v Speaker 2>TJ was playing extremely well.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that two day rest gave Hi an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to get a lot of treatment, get that thing massaged out.

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<v Speaker 2>He kept it warm, and now guess what they got

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<v Speaker 2>it They got too.

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<v Speaker 1>They got twenty four forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>They got about sixty plus hours before they play again,

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<v Speaker 2>so he gets treatment all the way. What you think

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<v Speaker 2>they'll lead tonight and they'll lead to Mars. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>play until Sunday. They probably gonna leave. They probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>leave Saturday. You don't think they'll leave Saturday. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that least Saurday will have a shoot around in

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<v Speaker 2>the India and then go probably.

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<v Speaker 1>So, man, this is it. I mean, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what else you gotta tell your team. This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the last game of the season, well the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like Rick Carlis that are awesome job

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<v Speaker 2>this postseason with these guys. And I think these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be out for this challenge knowing that you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they hadn't played terribly in Okay, see, they have it.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been in games. Remember they ended up winning Game one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they won Game one.

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<v Speaker 2>So they feel that they feel if you win one

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<v Speaker 2>time that Joe, you know, you feel you can win again.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, you just got to be better than them

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<v Speaker 2>in this last game, and it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>This's gonna be one one to remember because, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>okayc obviously we didn't talked about them being a dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>They understand what's this stake.

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<v Speaker 2>You got guys who didn't play well to night, who

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<v Speaker 2>are obviously gonna be looking to have a bounce back

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<v Speaker 2>game in a major way. I can't I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>they had a performance like this from okay, see, I

0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.480
<v Speaker 2>ain't gonna lie. Yeah, they seemed a little a task

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<v Speaker 2>lord tonight. Or maybe the Pacers played with a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more pepp in their step, but they did seem

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<v Speaker 2>to have a little bit more bounce. And once the

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<v Speaker 2>the lid was taken off the basket, I thought the

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<v Speaker 2>Pacers started to put it in there at a high clip.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you get one shot, you miss.

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<v Speaker 2>They go down on another to make and I say

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<v Speaker 2>it like again, they close out the first quarter good,

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<v Speaker 2>but any started at first that second quarter that was

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<v Speaker 2>on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And they didn't look back.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the end of the third you have Shepherd

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<v Speaker 2>hit that shot and it's up thirty. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see Dagnaut, he raised the white flags and okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see you, okay, see for game seven. Look just from

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<v Speaker 2>the hustle points alone for me, you know, they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of determined, you know who wanted more. And yep, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they just beat them in every fancy of the

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<v Speaker 2>game man, and that's uncharacteristic of Oklahoma City Thunder team,

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<v Speaker 2>who has been you know, tremendous throughout this whole and

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<v Speaker 2>not just this regular season but the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>So to see them get beat like this, damn, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe the Bus family, and it's been in their family,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers. It's been in their family since what in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine, winning doctor Jerry Buss purchased the team

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<v Speaker 2>from Jack Kent Cook, who was the owner of the

0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Washington football team that were not the football team then

0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the Commanders, but we know who they were, but and

0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:23.440
<v Speaker 2>he purchased that from them. So Mark Walter, who also

0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.880
<v Speaker 2>owns the Dodgers, he owns a soccer Premier team is

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<v Speaker 2>a Chelsea what is it done?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he owns a sig.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he had a lot of money and he

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<v Speaker 2>purchased the majority ownership for evaluation of approximately ten billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>the largest sale of a professional sports franchise in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeannie will still act as the governor per Ramona Shellburn.

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<v Speaker 2>Genie Rol as governor of the Lakers is in writing.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike Mark Cuban, who has a verbal, Hey, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stay owned. Herds is in writing, Shelborne believes Mark Walter

0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.440
<v Speaker 2>values Jennie Bus's ability to connect with the Lakers fan base,

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<v Speaker 2>brand and the leadership skilled. Walters similarly kept much of

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers' leadership in place when acquired to observe the

0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:12.520
<v Speaker 2>which employees he would build around. So he owns the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 2>and we know since he's on the Dodgers, they bought

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of World series of the Lakers. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers were a little heather than to spend because they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a whole lot of money. Now they got major,

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<v Speaker 2>they got major bread. This should scare a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people because first of all, this is Lakers. There's no

0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 2>bigger band in basketball than the Lakers. And now they

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<v Speaker 2>got an owner that has deep, deep pockets. Indeed, he's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be willing to go into the luxury tax even

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<v Speaker 2>the second ap from me, I dig in my pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't got no but some linen there. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I got for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what Joe I was thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn, I was trying to think, like

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<v Speaker 2>who I was like, I don't think the bus family

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<v Speaker 2>ever would ever sell the Lakers ten billion?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, that man were playing money.

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<v Speaker 2>Eine that money because you know, you coming to the table,

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<v Speaker 2>like why what about seven billion? See when you come

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<v Speaker 2>to the table and you spend and you basically spend

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<v Speaker 2>three point nine billion more than any franchise because the

0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Celtics you just sold for six point one So you say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I will give you three point nine

0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:20.120
<v Speaker 2>more billion than what that team sold for. And that

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:24.600
<v Speaker 2>team sold after they won the finals a championship. Hey, look,

0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:26.960
<v Speaker 2>he he know it's gonna be worth it. We're having

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<v Speaker 2>Braun and Luca there. You know, you got two major,

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<v Speaker 2>major superstars. Uh, and people are gonna be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>pay the price the ticket price to come check to

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<v Speaker 2>check the Lakers out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like he felt like he got in

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a good deal. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's been successful, you know in professional sport. So

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<v Speaker 2>to add the Lakers to it, man, that's yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>add the Lakers to your portfolio. As you gotta feel

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good about that. Yeah, ain't look, you ain't gonna

0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:05.520
<v Speaker 2>get much bigger than that. Yeah, yeah, I thought so.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a lot of he owns. He owns Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So he owns the Lakers now the Dodgers Chelsea. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he owns an F one racing team, l A Sparks

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<v Speaker 2>and the Professional Women's Hockey League. And he's to see

0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 2>goog googen him right. Oh yeah, Lord have mercy. Yeah

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.399
<v Speaker 2>he finna he's finna put him. He's finna put him

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<v Speaker 2>in a different strategy field. Man. He you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you got owners like that who willing to spend, you know, uh,

0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 2>it ain't no limit to what they're willing to do

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<v Speaker 2>to Yeah, yeah man to make their team successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And like you said, he does have Luca. He has

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 2>two superstars on the team. So even when when Lebron

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 2>retires a year or two or whatever that is, he

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 2>still has Luca, who's a superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lakers have always had a superstar.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that they've all they they've all they've

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<v Speaker 2>If you go back, you're study the Lakers since they've

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.400
<v Speaker 2>moved to LA. They had Baylor in West and then

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 2>they got Kareem and then they got Magic and then

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<v Speaker 2>they got you know, they had a once you know.

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Magic retired.

0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh you know, well he's you know, had the HIV diagnosis.

0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Uh, he stepped away, they ended up.

0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Getting shot and then you know Kobe, Kobe was there,

0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 2>so without for about a year or two, they was

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<v Speaker 2>without a superstar.

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And then Lebron comes.

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.399
<v Speaker 2>And now when Lebron you know, transitions away to a

0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 2>normal civilian life, you still got Luca. So for the

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<v Speaker 2>better part, since they've been in it, I mean since

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 2>they've been in LA, especially since the sixties, they've had

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<v Speaker 2>a superstar. And that's what if you're in l A Look,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 2>LA is about superstars. It's really that simple. You go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look at the Dodgers, whether it was Colfax

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>or all the people that get the guys that they've had.

0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what you need to think about this.

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know they're gonna bring they gotta bring them

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 2>guys some help. They gotta bring some help in the

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>LA meaning you know we talked about them always need

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 2>them big, you know, especially throughout this postseason. So I

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 2>expect this off season for the NBA to be one

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<v Speaker 2>to remember. And I can see the Lakers making a

0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.560
<v Speaker 2>big push for for for a big trade or something.

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 2>They gotta do something to get to get somebody in

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<v Speaker 2>there to help them guys. Man, especially if you want

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 2>to be if you want to be in contentions when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes down to the playoffs next.

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Year because the West is too deep. The West is

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:44.040
<v Speaker 1>too deep.

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to try to put that weight and that load

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 2>on strictly Lebron and Luca. They gonna need some help.

0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 2>They need a big They really need a big bag.

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about it. I ain't just talking about somebody

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<v Speaker 2>just big, just big. I'm talking about somebody big that

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<v Speaker 2>you can count and say, Okay, every game I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get I'm gonna get ten to fourteen from that person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get somewhere seven to ten rebounds from that person. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just having somebody that's because they sell them

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>foot tall in one game to give you ten. The

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<v Speaker 2>next game they give you cardio. That ain't gonna cut it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really not h You need. You need a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of shooters, and you need a big. You need some consistency. Hey,

0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.119
<v Speaker 2>look a lot of room was floating around by a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of guys. Man, And uh, I'm looking forward to this,

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<v Speaker 2>to this free agency, to the draft. Obviously, I think

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:32.439
<v Speaker 2>things were probably transpired before the draft, some of these trades,

0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I'm looking for the Lakers to make a

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<v Speaker 2>big splash.

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<v Speaker 1>The draft is a twenty fifth. The drafting next Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Since speaking of trade, the Lakers and Jazz have reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>discussed the trade center around Rual Hotche, Murrow and John

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Collins for Anthony Irwin. Many within the Lakers organization believe

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Collins would be especially great fit alongside Luca.

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:57.160
<v Speaker 1>He could jump out the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Since their seasons ended, they have had few conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>Utah to try to land the twenty seven year old,

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.919
<v Speaker 2>big big man, with Rouy hotchim or offten the centerpiece

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<v Speaker 2>of the deal. Yeah, I like John Collins. He plays

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<v Speaker 2>here in Atlanta for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be a great addition for those guys

0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>because he offensively, you know, he can, he can score

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit. Defensively, he's solid, and he'll be

0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>a guy who can definitely take some pressure off those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, from night to night, any given night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he can have big nights, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, he can.

0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>He can give you twenty five points twelve rebounds on

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 2>any given night. And I think to have guys like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know you're gonna need that throughout the throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>regular season and if you make it to the postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>to h to be lead, to be able to compete

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<v Speaker 2>in at Western Conference, man, you're gonna need you need

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>John Collins.

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<v Speaker 1>You still may need a little more help though you

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But all things being equal, I probably would have rather

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<v Speaker 2>have Kessler. I'd rather have a big that can dominate

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 2>the paint because he's a he's a great rem protector,

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>he can block shots. He can be a lob threat

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>if needed. But I uh uh, that's that's look. John

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Collins is a lob threat. He can make you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He like you said, he probably give you fifteen to

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 2>seventeen a night. But they really need a big. They

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:14.400
<v Speaker 2>need somebody a joe that can that can block shot,

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that can protect the paint because when they go when

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.280
<v Speaker 2>they go big and they have Ruy and Lebron playing

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<v Speaker 2>the four and the five of the five and the

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 2>four hive, you want to look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not enough. That ain't gonna win you. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna win your.

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<v Speaker 2>Championship with Lebron and Ruy Hotchimore playing four or five

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<v Speaker 2>or five.

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:31.959
<v Speaker 1>And four, it ain't. But the thing is it ain't many.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>It ain't many big guys out here, Like, dang, they

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>should have got that guy from Carolina, from Charlotte.

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 1>What's you think they can still get them Mark Williams.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, free Look look look what he he averaged, like

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:49.680
<v Speaker 2>sixteen and ten for them.

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, but he don't.

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Man, they gonna get They get a big to average

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:54.920
<v Speaker 2>sixteen and ten. Oh they go, they going to the West,

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<v Speaker 2>the conference finals.

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>But he's on a bad team. You know he can

0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>he do that with the Laker.

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you think he can ge And the expect expectations

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>is gonna be different, Joe, It's gonna be a lot different.

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot different playing playing down there in Charlotte

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>with no with no ain't nobody watching, nobody watching. Man,

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 2>it's a little different. You could come out, you know,

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 2>play Lucy Goose and have fun. You get to l

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>a every game. You're gonna feel like you in the finals.

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Almost. Well, what about DeAndre Ayton?

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like DeAndre Ayden here free agent? No,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>but he probably could be had. Oh he's up, so

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>we do he have a three plus three plus an option.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a team option, a player option. Damn, it's been

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 2>that long since they wanted your finals.

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Hey, uh, you t ain't trying to get off marketment

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 1>over there.

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Laurd Oh nah, hell nah. You should try to build

0:25:51.160 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>around him, man. Yeah, well, he he's a good eight.

0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>It's good because he has an expiring contract. He only

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>has this one this last year coming up, so he's

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>a prime cander. You know, they love NBA. They love

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 2>getting these guys on the last last year of a deal, Joe,

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna because you know what you're gonna get

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:13.439
<v Speaker 2>out of him.

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get the best. You're gonna get the best

0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>out of him.

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>You playing with he tried to get He tried to

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 2>he tried to get that Muller, He tried to get

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>that Spriller. You already know. Hey, no way, they give

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 2>it out nowadays. Boy, you being fool not to be

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.120
<v Speaker 2>out there and give him your best. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.280
<v Speaker 2>give him give him twenty and ten. That's that's forty men,

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 2>that's five years. That's for four year, five years, two

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 2>hundred meal. I like eight, and I think you can

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>even play through him a little bit, you know, from

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna happen.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>I know it's wish for thinking for you. You know

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you'll you're fig Joe Swaggy p have a hot take

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 2>this morning. Tim Duncan, Spurs was not a dynasty team.

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Man. I ran into him a few times.

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh what was that two thousand and two. I was

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 2>playing with Marlberry, he was a point guard. We were

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>a seed playing against the Spurs, who was a one seed.

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I think there was a Marius rookie year. Uh, we

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>played them and we won game one, Uncle san Antonio.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But after that it was a rap whether A couple

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of years later we get Steve Nash.

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we're the best team in the league, and uh,

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 2>they beat us again like they have been in the way,

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:26.200
<v Speaker 2>like the San Anto What do you mean they ain't

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 2>been a dynasty?

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I was.

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>But I want to know his definition. I mean you

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.120
<v Speaker 2>figured you look at all the championships they won. They won,

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 2>and they.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Won in ninety nine, Yeah that's what they won. In

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>what three?

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 2>They won in probably what five? They wanted seven? He

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>ain't said they was Swedish. So I want to know

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>what his definition is, Bro, you can be a dynasty. Look,

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is what happened. Unless you want

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>a three pet like the Laker, like a Shaton, Toby

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 2>or Jordan, you're not a dynasty. That's bullgyiin, No, they

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 2>won fourtunes, they won four championships and at least a

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 2>ten year span.

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>What is that? I would definitely call it a diner.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 2>How many teams, how many teams other than the Celtics,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 2>the sixty Celtics can say they won four championships and

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>a ten year span. Basically, you looking at the Celtics

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and you're looking at the Bulls. The Bulls won six

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and an eight year span. But I'm trying to figure

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>out so who else, who else can say that?

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>Nobody? So I guess you. I guess you're gonna say

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>what you call what the dynasty the.

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Warriors wars, not that I mean, but by his talking,

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors was not a dynasty.

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He played And just because you don't win time, I guess.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You can say, well, they didn't because the Spurs they

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>never did win the title back to back but four

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and ten years, so it might have been more than

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>shorter than that.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine three oh five, Oh.

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>No, they know, no, that'll be five I'm saying. But

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 2>it won four like a like an eight year span.

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So ninety nine, three oh five and anyone what another

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 2>seven and seven?

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what it is? Yeah? What you know what

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.959
<v Speaker 1>it is? Oh? They want yeah, bro, come on, bro,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they weren't they won four to eight.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 2>Years because I from swaggering probably thinking like you know,

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>they wasn't exciting to watch. You know, no they're not.

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 2>They're broccoli fighting to watch. But you ain't good to you,

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's good for you. They got it done, man,

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 2>they got it done. I don't care how you cut it.

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I consider that. I definitely consider them a dynasty. Yeah

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>for sure. Oh yeah, yeah. Look you look at what

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>they had. They got Tim Duncan, who's uh. You can

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>make a case that either top ten player of all

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>time with those accomplishments both offensively and defensively. You look

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>at Tony Parker and look how he did it with

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the exception of Duncan. Did you actually think, well, they

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>got Tony Parker and they got Moneled Genobi. Do you

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>think at one point, what point in time did you say,

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Marna, you know that he gonna be

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Fame player. Tony Parker is gonna best

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>rude to be a finals MVP. There wasn't. They wasn't.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I understand that Parker was a first round pick,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>but he wasn't highly acclaim. He wasn't no lot to

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 2>be picked. He wasn't think what Tony Parker like nineteen

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty something. Hey, that was my draft.

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>That was old one.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>We came in together. But what break was Parker Parker's

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 2>like number twenty two or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight, twenty eight. Yeah, that last, that's almost last

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>in the first round. Yeah, and Genoba was the second

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>round pick.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Because it's the system.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the system they have that Pop has created, the

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>plug and play, you know, it's having that discipline, understanding

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>your play. Gotta players gotta play a certain way. Yeah,

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>understanding your role. And we ain't having no foolishness around here,

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>hear me. It ain't gonna be no foolishness. Hey, we're

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be led by by Tim Duncan, who has been

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>awesome since since he's came into the NBA. Playing next

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>to David Robinson. Yeah, plug and play, baby plug, and

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 2>they had the luxury when Tim came Tim was a

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>grown up. Yeah, he spent four years in college. So

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't nineteen, he wasn't twenty. He

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>was a full grown man. And he don't get that today.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 2>And he conducted himself as a full grown man. And

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, coach Popovich and coach Belichick, they get along.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>There a lot of light because Timmy allowed coach Pop

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 2>to coach him hard. Tom allowed coach Belichick to coach

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>him hard. So if your best player is getting coached hard,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>how you think you're gonna get coached How can you

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>complain when they don't complain?

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Timmy never complained.

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>And the thing was, and that's kind of what ended

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 2>up breaking the Spurs up because everybody up until Kawhi

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 2>allowed coach Pop to coach him a certain way. I

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>agree Kawhi was very une and why was different And

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>sometimes the best job sometimes as a cult, you have

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>to understand who you could ride and who you have

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 2>to paddle on the back because you can't put your

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 2>foot in everybody's butt because some guys are buck right.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:17.560
<v Speaker 1>You say, look, you got to think about this too.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Before they got Tim Duncan, they were one of the

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>top teams in the NBA, and then I think they

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.200
<v Speaker 2>had an injury. I don't know if David Robinson got

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 2>injured how they ended up getting and Tim Duncan. They

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>had them twin towers and it's like they were cheating.

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, right, I thought Tim Duncan came into the

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>NBA and he was very mature, you know, for a rookie,

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you don't necessarily see that meaning you could

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>play through him. He was so dominated at that power

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>forward position. It wasn't many guys who was stopping. No,

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>he understood the system. He played within the system, and

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>they dominated. They dominated. I think that was what the

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>lockout year when he came in. Yep, yeah, yep. So

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>you look at you got. You got David Robinson, Tim Duncan.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah to David Robinson, Tim Duncan, and I

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 2>think Sean Elliott he's on that team. Yeah, yeah, they

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>there's some great veteran Avery Johnson.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I mean, look, you got two tops.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.479
<v Speaker 2>You got two top seventy five players with David Robinson

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>and Tim Duncan, even though Timmy was a rookie, right,

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was mature. I think the last senior to

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 2>be number one overall was Kenyon Martin, which was the

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 2>next year.

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So now guys are coming out of freshman and

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>then at the one point in time, the guys you know,

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Lebron and Dwight Howard didn't even go to college and

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>they were the number one overall. So you got to

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>go back twenty five twenty six years the last time

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you had a senior be selected number one overall. Because

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 2>people look at to see, oh Joe now with the

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>money being, they're like, bro, you that good? Why you

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>still in college? That ain't love even if you're a junior.

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Bro you had, I mean, hold on you that good?

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>What you're still doing here? Hey? Because when I was

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in college, that was the thing. It was like, man,

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you stayed more than two years, they gonna think something

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>wrong with you.

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Mm hm. And uh you know I got that uh.

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>From the from the late great uh uh Wallace Praither

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>who coached to Atlanta Celtics out here in Atlanta when

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>I was when I was a junior high school, I

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>came out here and played with the Celtics, And that's

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 2>that's one thing he was telling, Man, you stay longer

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>than two years, they're gonna think something wrong with you. Nowadays,

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you ain't getting there. It ain't gonna be no number

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 2>one pick as no senior no more. I know ain't

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna see that no more.

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>No. And even with the nil then like cool flashes,

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.479
<v Speaker 1>stay another Yeah for what, I ain't staying no more.

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>His whole hit, The whole objective is get to the

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>end of the NBA or the NFL. Okay, if I

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.440
<v Speaker 2>can collect five six eight million dollars and get and

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 2>get there in the same amount of time.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>No, all they did was speed up the process.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my ability and the ability to enter into the

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>draft now it's different than the NFL because you can't

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>go before your junior year. But other than that, I'm

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 2>not waiting around. I'm trying to get to the bag

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I possibly can. Yeah, because the sooner he.

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Get in there and playing them get them two three years.

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Up, they're gonna now they're gonna wlop him down, exactly, Joe.

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>There's been some drama recently surrounding future pick Ah Bailey.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Bailey reported canceled his pre draft workout with the Sixers.

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 2>The Sixers have not ruled out selecting Bailey with the

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>number three overall pick in the twenty twenty five draft.

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Team Phil Bailey has received poor advice during the pre

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:39.240
<v Speaker 2>draft process after agent demanded payment for interviews. Ace Bailey

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 2>reported had Omar Cooper, the father of Sharif Cooper, representing

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>him as an agent. Bailey remains the only US best

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>base prospect yet to visit any teams. Joe, if you

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 2>could offer, you went through this process, you played fifteen

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>plus years. What's some advice you would give As Bailey

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.879
<v Speaker 2>if you could talk get his ear uh for me? Man,

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I would tell him, at least, here's some of these

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 2>teams are you know, maybe maybe maybe the first few

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.440
<v Speaker 2>teams that's picking. Maybe he don't even want to be

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 2>drafted by you know what I mean. But I've had

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>a chance to see As Bailey play in high school

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and in college. He is gonna be an elite pro

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 2>and maybe he knows and understands that.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>He probably knows understanding his work.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But there is a process that we all have to

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>go through when we when we are trying to enter

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>the NBA draft. And I'm not sure what you know

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>his his agent is telling them or what they're thinking.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm Philly, man, it's gonna be hard to

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 2>pass him up. Yeah, mancuse Philly, that three, That man

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 2>got a whole lot of game man, and I.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Could see him fitting in seamlessly.

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>With you know, uh Tyrese, Tyrese Aliburton.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you hope, you get hope you can get and be.

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Back healthy, Tyrese, max In the MB, Tyree's Baxen, not

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Halibert's say Helabern, Maxic m B and even Paul George.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>I think you know they gotta they gotta and they

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 2>got some great young pieces over there too already. But

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>he can flat out score that ball man. He can fly. Yeah, McCain,

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I think McCain got hurt. McCain, he got hurt. So

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought Philly dealt with a lot of injuries. But

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>add him to that man, that that's that's a good look.

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>He can play all well. I understand Keavin Mavericks ain't

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 2>working anybody out but Cooper flag So you aren't gonna

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 2>work out for them anyway now too, san Antonio at

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>three Philly, because you look, san Antonio.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Got a lot of guards already.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, they got they got a castle, they got vassal,

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>they got a what's the other, uh, Sir Sean d

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Fox, The likelihood of them going because how.

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Tall is he a guard? Here? Yeah, he can. He

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna play this too.

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>He about six eight, about six eighth, so okay, he

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 2>he uh, he do a little bit everything.

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He's sixteen, Joe.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I ain't I didn't stand next to him, but from

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 2>what I've seen, the man jump ball, he played the point,

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.280
<v Speaker 2>he did everything. He can rebound outside of his area

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like and not only that, like he has.

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>A pro game already the way he plays.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 2>If you gonna look at when he played at Rutgers, like,

0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>look at the shots that he took, like that man

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 2>is a hell of a shot maker.

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 2>So in the pros, that's what you're looking for. You

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>looking for guys who can make tough shots. He's gonna

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>be a great pro man regardless of where you go.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 2>But uh, if Philly passed up on him at the

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 2>at the three spot, they gonna probably regret that. Yeah,

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 2>he tried. He tried to pull a Charles Barker. Charles

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Barker said they wanted him at like two eighty. Charles said, bad, Philly,

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>go check take me. And they ain't got no money

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>till about paying me fifty thousand he said, Man, I

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.879
<v Speaker 2>ain't leave all but for fifty thousands, he said, bad.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I went the Seals.

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Little had be like three people, had two baked potatoes,

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:54.280
<v Speaker 2>all that bread.

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I waited at two ninety nine, like we still go

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>draft you fast as Look. I wonder is it that

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>he don't want to go to Philly? Uh?

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, but I'm surprised consider that h Rutgers is I

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>mean Jersey right down, I mean you right down the road.

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 2>But he probably won't. He probably want that instant, that

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 2>instant uh uh uh, you know, productivity when he coming

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 2>to the NBA. You know, if he go to Philly,

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's still a pecking order. You know, Oh

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he's joeling b Yeah, I don't care how good he played,

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 2>it's still gonna be a pecking order.

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Well. Hell, he ain't worked out for nobody, Joe, I know.

0:39:28.520 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I give me the top five,

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>give me the top five spot.

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I know Mavericks got one, san Antonio got to Philly

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>got three, who got four and five? I think Hunt

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 2>has got the fourth pick, Charlotte has four.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>You taed. He ain't really trying to go to another

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of them? Now, hen't to be out of Joe. He

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 1>ain't really try to go another deal, but I want

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you on that.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>It looks but if I'm him, Charlotte might not be

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 2>a bad spot. Meaning it is this Charlotte. It's gonna

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>be bad. But look, they gotta get some playoffs. They

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>need more players around LaMelo. You already got Melo over there,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and Brandon Miller, and you add a Bailey with that.

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 2>That's what he afraid of. He said, I don't want

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 2>to get added to that. I would have get some

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 2>tracted from that. See you try to do addition. I've

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 2>tried to do some tracks. But he gonna be able

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 2>to put up them numbers that he probably, you know,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>thinking about putting up. You over there with the hornets,

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 2>you better put up some numbers. Your numbers will be

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 2>better over there then they gonna be in Philly. A

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 2>if if a tree falls in the forest and nobody

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.720
<v Speaker 2>hears it, doesn't make it sound you scoring thirty in Charlotte.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Look at Mello Melo average twenty five, twenty six in Charlotte.

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:39.399
<v Speaker 2>The ain't nobody paying no attention to it. That's because

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 2>they got a win man. You got them in them markets.

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>You gotta win in order to be to get some notoriety,

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>you gotta win. Okay, yeah, yeah, eighth baby. One of

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>the promise for the Sixers before agreed to meet with them,

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 2>per Jason Domus promise to what he promised?

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>What he said that if he if he goes and

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>visits to him.

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 2>He wanted to promise I promise him say yeah, bro,

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 2>you know question, we're gonna drave you.

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>And then like no, we're not gonna drive him. Oh

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 1>so they wanted a promise. He wanted a promise.

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he probably felt like he number one pick worthy.

0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>But obviously you know you ain't getting that. They're gonna do.

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Maverick's gonna take Cooper fe Mavick taking Cooper Cooper Flag

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>And maybe in any other draft that might have been

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 2>a possibility. But after Cooper Flag did what he did

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 2>on the US elect team and then the type of season.

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>That he had, a duke, wouldn't nobody going in front

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>of that kid? Man.

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something, dude, this dude is gonna

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 2>be a hell of a pro man. I'm not saying

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 2>that did not, but he gonna go in front of the

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Cooper of Flag. He ain't going in front the Cooper flag.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 2>I understand that, but where he do go I think

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>it does make a difference. Uh Now, I know, I say,

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, Philly, Philly shouldn't pass up on him. But

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>if the way him and his agent is probably thinking

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:50.640
<v Speaker 2>at this point, like, man, we want to get you

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>into a situation to where where you can play right away.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>So maybe maybe they maybe they turned Philly down because

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 2>they do want.

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>To go to uh uh all of that elsewhere. I don't know.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Somebody might shoot up the board. But if I'm Charlotte,

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I ain't passing it right. You can't cause you got

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 2>you got Dylan Harper. I don't think Dylan Harper Gordon

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 2>and san Antonio because they got a boat, little guards

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>to begin with, the last thing, the last thing Dylan

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 2>Harper need is is a is to be in San

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Antonio with Fox, with Stefan Castle, with so Sean.

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Who do you think they gonna take with that number two?

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>That number two pick?

0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Then you think they're gonna you gonna think they're gonna

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 2>take Dylan Harper?

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do. I think they're gonna really yeah.

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Nah, I trade say a Phoenix, I traded give me

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant, and that's why I think is gonna happen.

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's that's not you know, I think I

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 1>think at the end that at.

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 2>The end of I think Durant is gonna probably end

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 2>up going to the Spurs and that's probably gonna send

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Harper probably the Phoenix. Because I think the thing is, Look,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see k D and Houston with

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 2>with Aarmen Thompson and Shing.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Gooon you bring you bring Van Fleet back.

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So because I think the thing that hurt Houston and

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Layton games, they ain't got nobody can give it to

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>see what KD.

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>You got somebody that you can give it to Layton games.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Shing Gooon is an All NBA select I mean he

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>went to the All Star Game this year.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Arm and Thompson. It's a he's rising.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>He coming, Yeah, play tremendous defense, can go get buckets.

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I love him.

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 2>You got a four floord general and Van Fleet that's

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 2>won a championship, knows what it takes to win. I

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 2>like that they got great pieces. I mean they were

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>the number two CD yep. The thing else I'll be

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 2>willing to give you one. I give you your Barsmith Junior.

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you Jalen Green, but you can't have both

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 2>of them for k D. Yeah, i'll give you. I'll

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 2>give you one of them and at a first in

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 2>our first round pick Phoenix gone go on both of them. No,

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 2>can't do. They've they've already come down on the asking price.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Because the thing is is that you're looking at a

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>situation where they're like, well man, Desmond Bane went for

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>X amount of picks, but Desmond Bank, No, he's not

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the player that Kevin Durant is. But he's probably seven

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>to ten years younger than Kevin Durant and doesn't have

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the history of being injured like Kevin Durant. And Orlando

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 2>was indeed of some shooting yet and some defense on

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 2>the forerima. Now, yeah, they needed so it's probably they

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>probably more likely over you know, over compensated for him.

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>But they and they had a boat.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>But the thing Yil Joe, they're on a handful of

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 2>teams that had a boatloader pick that could throw out them.

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 2>San Antonio got a boat little picks, Orlando had a

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 2>boatlottle picks. Brooklyn got a boatload of picks. So they

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 2>got Okay, see, so you got ten first round picks,

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>so who'll killed a heck if you give up four

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of them? And we're looking at with Paulo Bank, Caro Franz, Wagner,

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Desmond Bang, Jlem Suggs, we gonna be winning, and so

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>that ain't gonna be no lot of the picks anyway.

0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's why we left him up protected because you're

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna be picking in the twitter, right, we don't need

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>to protect nothing to twenty right, and I feel like

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Orlando feel like they time can be now. It can't

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be right, you know, because looking at the it's why

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 2>JT's hurt. He's gonna be gone for at least a year.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Ah Man Durank going to he going to San Antonio. Yeah,

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 2>he gonna saying because they you're right, they not gonna,

0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 2>They not gonna. I can't really see a rookie helping

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>san Antonio get to where they're trying to get to

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>at this point because they got so many, they got.

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Enough young player.

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Hell, we'll be only the third really, women will really

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.120
<v Speaker 2>be a second year because you got he ended up.

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.360
<v Speaker 2>He played less than half the year, so now he's

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.879
<v Speaker 2>coming back. You got Castle, who was a rookie last year. Yeah,

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you got some veteran guys. You got Dearon Foxing, you

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 2>got Shashan and you got Vassals Kelton Johnson.

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You got some guys. But do you really think.

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 2>A rookie is gonna come and look, I mean in

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>order to like I said, think about the rookies that's

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>helped win a championsh.

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got Magic Johnson, you got Tim Duncan, and.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:06.799
<v Speaker 2>That's Look, but that's that's that's kind of why I'm

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm like when you look at Dallas them taking

0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Cooper Flag, you think Cooper Flag gonna be able to

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 2>get them back to the finals?

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 1>He too good to fight, He too good to u

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>His projection says, he's too good to pass up.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, it's it's it's gonna be Uh,

0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be interesting next this this next week is

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna be pretty interesting. I think we're gonna see a

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 2>lot of guys moving around and uh, obviously Durant is

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna be one of the first guys, you know,

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 2>to to to join a new team. And whatever team

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>he joins, H, we know they gonna be favorite. They

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 2>gonna be one of the favorites anyway, for sure. Uh,

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>what does Fridges is start because you can have I

0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>think they got a tampering period in July.

0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They can start with your fifth July seven or June thirty. Wow, yeah,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>so hell eleven days.

0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it's gonna be so small theah yeah, yeah,

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Fin's gotta get some draft capitol back. But they really

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 2>want a good. They want a good They want at

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 2>least one of two players that can come in and play.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Right now, Hey, if you just send him to Houston,

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 2>you get Green and Jabari Smith Jr. I don't think

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>they'll give up both of them. Joe, You don't think so, man,

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 2>I think they give up one. They weren't really playing

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Japari like that though. No, No, they weren't really playing.

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Them like that.

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like if you send him to Phoenix,

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>they'll put him in a spot the word he can

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>flourish rak and succeed, yeah and reach his his What

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 2>about Jaalen Green de Phoenix? Because him and him and

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Book is the same type of a guy, I mean,

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean phantasy. The part they need to get Book

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>off the ball, let Book go back there is to

0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>let Book do what book does Chris Paul was, I

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know why they got rid of think about this though,

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>if Phoenix.

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Do get Jalen Green, ain't you got Bradley Beal already? That?

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.239
<v Speaker 1>But what we're doing? Yeah? True? So Jabari Smith will

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:21.120
<v Speaker 1>be the one they want. Yeah so I don't know.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Man insider Jake Fisher believe Durant is going to Miami.

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Joe what can I'm just trying to figure out what

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 2>can Miami offer that the Sun?

0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.359
<v Speaker 1>That? What can they offer the Sun?

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Well? I mean, you got two players, and you don't

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 2>want to give up either one of them. You don't

0:48:36.360 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 2>want to give up Bama. You don't want to give

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:41.799
<v Speaker 2>up Tyler Hero. Well, if your action price don win down,

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 2>do you have some picks? Let me think of a

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 2>couple of players you can throw all. They ain't got

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:56.280
<v Speaker 2>no picks. I know Duncan, Robinson, Hot Smith, Hoimi, Howkas Hobvid.

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>That's why I can't see him going to Miami, because

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.960
<v Speaker 2>they ain't really got nothing. They gonna give up guys,

0:49:01.200 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna try to keep them. So you compare them

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 2>with KD. I don't see him going to Miami. Do

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.080
<v Speaker 2>you think let's just say for the sake of argument

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>for this discussion, he goes to Miami or Miami automatically

0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:13.839
<v Speaker 2>contending with him Bam and Tyler Hero.

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah in the East, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Uh oh they got they got they got my young

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 2>boy over there, kel A whare he got?

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>You got some value in him?

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Six eleven seven foot You know he played great this

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>year for.

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>The Miami Heat.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but yeah if he if Durank go to Miami, yeah,

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:37.520
<v Speaker 2>they gonna be one of the favorites for sure. I

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.960
<v Speaker 2>think the thing is what happened was matt ishber Ishpa

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I know went to what I went to the WNB

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 2>All Star Game, had an opportunity to have some good

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 2>conversation with it.

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing is like when you come in,

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna win. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I'm winning. I'm waring.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:52.600
<v Speaker 2>And he made some moves that and you're like, you

0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 2>go back and look at like, if you got Katie,

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:59.319
<v Speaker 2>do you really need Bradley? Beal right, you probably need

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 2>to go get somebody the baby, Go get a big

0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 2>or get somebody that can defend, because you got a

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of guys that can score and to defend on

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a nightly basis, you gotta have the you gotta be

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.320
<v Speaker 2>able to defend. Look at the two teams that's in

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the final. They got wings that can defend. Yeah, you

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 2>got Nie Smith, you got them hard, you got set defend,

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.240
<v Speaker 2>you got math Ron, you got guys that can defend.

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And obviously we know what you got.

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, see with those winging guys, so you got all

0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>this offense and you don't got the thing was with Phoenix,

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't stop anybody. Yeah, they they could score, but

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 2>if it's a nip tuck ball game, now, guess what

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:39.359
<v Speaker 2>they're getting. Their positions are a lot easier than yours. Yeah,

0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a pretty good risk. I think

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the guys that you put around those three, meaning Devin, Booker,

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Bill and Durant, I think that's the key. You need

0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.720
<v Speaker 2>guys surrounding those guys who are like blue collar, hard

0:50:54.760 --> 0:50:57.640
<v Speaker 2>working guys and kind of let them guys just kind of,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously play but you know score, but uh,

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>you need guys who understand their role man, and they

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 2>just ain't had I don't feel like they had the

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 2>right pieces around me.

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Joe.

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>I spent all the money on the house, so the

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:14.359
<v Speaker 2>furniture gonna be ish. Hey, look ip over budget as

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it is, Joe, i'p over a budget as it is.

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Look you, I'm telling you I'm the guy. Joe. I

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:20.200
<v Speaker 1>got a house.

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 2>My agent, my financial people said, okay, Shallon, I wanted

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the house in Atlanta. Came to Freak Naked ninety two

0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.920
<v Speaker 2>ninety three, called my agent before I left. I said, man,

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:30.959
<v Speaker 2>I moved to I thought you wanted the houses about.

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I said, man, didn't I tell you y'all want a

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.319
<v Speaker 2>house house? Somebody find me the house in Atlanta. So

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:40.399
<v Speaker 2>they said, at the time, I think I was making

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>bout seven think I'll make it by six hundred thousand.

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>So they say, okay, you know you're supposed to get

0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>a house.

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 2>You get a house, that's your salary, you know, whatever

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 2>half of your salary. So I was like, okay, this

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 2>say Shannon for twenty five, you know, and for twenty five.

0:51:57.560 --> 0:51:58.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 2>So the first house the lady showed me, actually it

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:02.879
<v Speaker 2>was Sugar Ray Leonards ex wife.

0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>What need us? It was her old house.

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I walked in there. It was in Buckhead. Because I

0:52:07.800 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 2>was gonna look at Buckhead. I was looking she stopped

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.359
<v Speaker 2>being Buckhead. Then I was going to Stone Mountain, then

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I was going to Alphareto.

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, But in the.

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 2>House, I walked around, saw that marble, all that, all

0:52:22.480 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 2>that radio, saw the fireless staircase. John's like, ooh this night.

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:28.719
<v Speaker 2>She said, oh, wait, do you see down? You know,

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 2>down got a finished basement. I said, really, I ain't

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 2>never seen no baby before. Joe, I'll be there, Joe,

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>excuse me. I go downstairs, three thousand square foot finished basement.

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.360
<v Speaker 1>So now she's like, okay, this is the first house.

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I was saying to myself, I don't want to see

0:52:47.320 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 2>nothing new, yo, I don't want to see nothing else.

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm good. She said, no, we we got

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 2>some other houses we go to see. I said, okay, man,

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.800
<v Speaker 2>the mother houses and they were really nice. It was

0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 2>all like she was showing me our house. I said,

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I want to go back. So I said, let's go

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 2>back to the first house. I cut, I cut to.

0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I saw one. I saw one in bathfrenda and I

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 2>saw one in them and marry yea. I said, let's

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 2>go back to the first house. I asked nothing and

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I saw one in the stole out. I said, let's

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 2>go back to that first house.

0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>She drove me. She took me back to the first house.

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that my people

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 2>had already told her the budget.

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then damn budget and went out the door.

0:53:34.120 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm one hundred and eighty thousand over budget, Joe, I

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.280
<v Speaker 2>had a for two years.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I had a bed and a TV. You adn't putting

0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:48.640
<v Speaker 1>some funds in there? Why I don't put it in

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:56.839
<v Speaker 1>that with Yeah, that's spend dollar money in the house.

0:53:56.920 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>You can get I ain't get in. No furniture. I ain't.

0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Hey, somebody come up, Hey, Joe, somebody come over. They

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 2>can fit the living room and go see down on

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the floor watching TV.

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's all I add. So that's the thing

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>with you with Phoenix.

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:17.280
<v Speaker 2>You got Kadie, you got a bill, you got booked,

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.920
<v Speaker 2>you got out a scr. But you got in is furniture.

0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.399
<v Speaker 2>You ain't got nothing. And and that's why they look

0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:25.319
<v Speaker 2>the way they've looked. You can't.

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>They ain't even made.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 2>They ain't made the play in so they gotta hey, look,

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>so we one thing we do know is they more

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 2>than likely or they are gonna trade durant.

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they got a book. Can't going nowhere.

0:54:38.560 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't seem like because he has a no

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<v Speaker 2>trade I mean, let's let this sink in. Bradley Bill

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<v Speaker 2>and Lebron James are the only two players that have

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<v Speaker 2>a no trade clause.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, so now he control it. You can't trol it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get trade it. He was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>wan't gonna trade you. No, I'm not going there all

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<v Speaker 2>right because I think they we want to go damn

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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to get off Bill, but they can't.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't. They can't, so they gotta make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I say, ye, you gotta If from Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going with some young guys who have proven that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they can play in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Aston for me, Houston would be oh Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you I'm saying, if you can get back

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<v Speaker 2>Green and Parker Jabari Parker like no, Smith, Jabari Smith Jr. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that'll help your team. Yeah, for sure, that'll help

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<v Speaker 2>your team. Now, the problem you're gonna have because both

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.080
<v Speaker 2>of those guys love to score, and you got Bradley

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<v Speaker 2>Beal with Devin Booker and Jalen Green, you know you

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<v Speaker 2>might be back in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Same position he was in.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be in the same spot. But you do

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<v Speaker 2>have a big, active, big uh he got. He's gotta eat.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna need to get a little better. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he will a little bit, a little bit more bricks

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<v Speaker 2>in his pocket. I think, you know, his limited playtime

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<v Speaker 2>because you had Shing Goon playing so well. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be interesting to see how this thing played out.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing we do know, they want to move

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant. They tried to move back to the trade deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>and He's like, Noah, let me go ahead and stay

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<v Speaker 2>here because I come with a lot, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'm gonna need some time to integrate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm gonna need some some camps and some

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some uh preseason to get into the floor

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<v Speaker 2>of things. But man, if he goes to San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be cheating again. Yeah, him and Winby and

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<v Speaker 2>Castle and Deer and Fox, san Antonio gonna be right back, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they got that mean Look, okay, see got the picks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to Okay, see Brooklyn got the picks.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not going to Brooklyn. San Antonio got picks. Houston

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<v Speaker 2>got some picks and they got some players. See Houston

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<v Speaker 2>have Houston and San Antonio have picks and players.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think this is gonna be one of

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<v Speaker 1>them two teams. Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>He already said he wanted to go to what Texas

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<v Speaker 2>or team with no state tax?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, Texas. Uh the Spurs rockets heat.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I don't see the heat. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see the heat happening. I don't think they got enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't either. I don't either.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, to help Phoenix, you know, fulfill anything to

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<v Speaker 2>get to get back some that's worth the value for

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really see that in Miami. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it. The volume