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Speaker 1: We got a game seven.

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Speaker 2: Game six wasn't really that interesting, especially if you're a

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Speaker 1: But Indiana came to play tonight.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of speculation of whether or not

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Speaker 1: Not only did he play, he played extremely well.

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Speaker 2: But again it was the bench TJ McConnell Obie topping

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Speaker 2: they got Tom one hundredth anniversary jacket or he's one

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Speaker 1: You'll be glad you did. So. Thank you Hall of

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Speaker 2: All right, Joe, the Pacers beat the Thunder, so we

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Speaker 2: do have a game seven on Sunday one eight to

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Speaker 2: ninety one. Nobody, I mean really, no one from the

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Speaker 2: Thunder played really well. Thunder had five turnovers in the

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Speaker 2: second quarter, I mean first quarter. Seven in the second quarter,

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Speaker 2: so they had twelve turnles at the half. Obi Topping

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Speaker 2: really good basketball this postseason. Joe, But tonight the way

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Speaker 2: they swarmed, they for shade eight turnovers seven to fifteen

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Speaker 2: He was minus forty and the plus minus six or

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Speaker 2: McConnell is the first bench player in NBA history sixty

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Speaker 2: looking at it, Joe, They looking at it, Jose about bad.

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Speaker 1: I will cook old boy. Yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the next day, you know, Eden told you look

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Speaker 2: even us tonight. Joe, what did you like about what

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Speaker 2: What impressed you most about Indiana? Man haller Berry pulling

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Speaker 1: Man? Come on now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah something hey? But anyway, uh, I thought Indiana played great.

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Speaker 2: I thought that, you know, to get off to a

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Speaker 1: Now is he the guy? No, he's not the.

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Speaker 2: Guy, but the energy and effort that he plays with

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Speaker 1: Man. He's making plays on both ends of the court.

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Speaker 2: Offensively, it's almost like OKAYC was like, Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: gonn't let him score as much as he can. But defensively,

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Speaker 2: whatever reason. You know, after after probably the first couple

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Speaker 1: They never looked back.

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Speaker 2: They killed them in every quarter except you know, the

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Speaker 2: was it was a sight to see I hadn't seen

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Speaker 2: Okay see play like this a lot throughout this postseason,

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Speaker 1: They knew what was they say.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they didn't want them boys to close them out

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Speaker 2: It was a great game. Absolutely, Yeah, boy, Joe, I

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Speaker 2: I thought they energy and effort was there. Defensively, they

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Speaker 2: see had no chance, they had no chance. They looked

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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen Oka See looked like that, you know

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Speaker 2: I thought, this is probably one of the best outputs

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: It didn't start off very well because I think they

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Speaker 2: See give up. But once they got it going, boy,

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Speaker 2: they got it going, they couldn't stop them, Joe. I

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Speaker 2: I was strong because it's always okay, how do we start,

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Speaker 2: then how do we finish? You're always trying to close

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Speaker 1: But man, when they started that second quarter.

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Speaker 2: They opened up a can on them, Joe, they opened

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Speaker 2: I don't think Shade's gonna play as bad as he played.

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Speaker 2: Shade have played that bad. It was just hard. The

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Speaker 2: He didn't get that bounce tonight. But I just think

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Speaker 2: Siakam was good, Nie Smith was good, nim Hard Tyre's

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Speaker 2: Halliburton was sensational.

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Speaker 1: Obi Topping was sensational. TJ. McConnell. I mean, what do

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he's the I en the job

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Speaker 2: of Bunny And I thought in the second quarter of

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Speaker 2: what they did is they played him and Haliburton together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought, I Hallerburton didn't really have a problem with

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Speaker 1: He didn't.

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Speaker 2: I just Holly looked like he was a step fast

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Speaker 2: damn they man, they put up a performance against OKC today.

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Speaker 2: You look at uh, you look at Caruso. He had

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Speaker 2: many points as me and you had to night. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he got some cardio in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They can't.

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Speaker 2: They can't win without their bench contributing unless Shay and

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was.

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Speaker 2: He didn't couldn't get his offensive game going, and he

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Speaker 2: No one could make shots. Eight turnovers like I said,

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Speaker 1: And look, no one wants to lose.

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Speaker 2: It's not easier losing or you lost as a low

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Speaker 2: But are you I damn sure don't want you to

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Speaker 1: I don't want you celebrated. You know, all my fans

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Speaker 2: Everybody disappointed, and a handful of fans that y'all got

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Speaker 1: Ah nah, hell nah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Look, I think I think Indiana really fed off

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Regide Miller was there, Ronal tests.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back showing them guys love and you know

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Speaker 2: because he started making some shots. Hey, he making some

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Speaker 2: this game seven, I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked at the Pacers because I

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Speaker 2: I believe Rick Carlile should have went with a TJ

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Speaker 2: I think he should have rode TJ McConell a little more,

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Speaker 2: It's a veteran guy. You know, he's the said of

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Speaker 2: TJ was playing extremely well.

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Speaker 1: But you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think that two day rest gave Hi an opportunity

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Speaker 2: it They got too.

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Speaker 1: They got twenty four forty eight.

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Speaker 2: They got about sixty plus hours before they play again,

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Speaker 2: they'll lead tonight and they'll lead to Mars. They don't

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Speaker 2: play until Sunday. They probably gonna leave. They probably gonna

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Speaker 2: think that least Saurday will have a shoot around in

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Speaker 1: So, man, this is it. I mean, like, I don't

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Speaker 1: This is the last game of the season, well the season.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like Rick Carlis that are awesome job

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Speaker 2: they hadn't played terribly in Okay, see, they have it.

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Speaker 1: They've been in games. Remember they ended up winning Game one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So they feel that they feel if you win one

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Speaker 2: time that Joe, you know, you feel you can win again.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, you just got to be better than them

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Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: This's gonna be one one to remember because, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: They understand what's this stake.

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Speaker 2: You got guys who didn't play well to night, who

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Speaker 2: they had a performance like this from okay, see, I

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Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie. Yeah, they seemed a little a task

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Speaker 1: And now you get one shot, you miss.

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Speaker 1: And they didn't look back.

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Speaker 2: And then the end of the third you have Shepherd

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Speaker 2: see Dagnaut, he raised the white flags and okay, we'll

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Speaker 2: see you, okay, see for game seven. Look just from

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Speaker 1: So to see them get beat like this, damn, it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It is. It really is.

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Speaker 2: Joe the Bus family, and it's been in their family,

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, winning doctor Jerry Buss purchased the team

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Speaker 2: the Commanders, but we know who they were, but and

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Speaker 2: he purchased that from them. So Mark Walter, who also

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Speaker 2: a Chelsea what is it done?

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Speaker 1: I think he owns a sig.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, he had a lot of money and he

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Speaker 2: purchased the majority ownership for evaluation of approximately ten billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: the largest sale of a professional sports franchise in the world.

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Speaker 2: Jeannie will still act as the governor per Ramona Shellburn.

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Speaker 2: Genie Rol as governor of the Lakers is in writing.

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Speaker 2: Unlike Mark Cuban, who has a verbal, Hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: stay owned. Herds is in writing, Shelborne believes Mark Walter

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Speaker 2: and we know since he's on the Dodgers, they bought

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Speaker 2: they got major bread. This should scare a lot of

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Speaker 2: I ain't got no but some linen there. That's all

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Speaker 2: I got for you.

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Speaker 1: And you know what Joe I was thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I was trying to think, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, that man were playing money.

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Speaker 2: Eine that money because you know, you coming to the table,

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Speaker 2: like why what about seven billion? See when you come

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Speaker 2: you know what, I will give you three point nine

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Speaker 2: more billion than what that team sold for. And that

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Speaker 2: he he know it's gonna be worth it. We're having

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Speaker 2: Braun and Luca there. You know, you got two major,

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Speaker 2: major superstars. Uh, and people are gonna be willing to

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Speaker 1: So I feel like he felt like he got in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been successful, you know in professional sport. So

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Speaker 2: pretty good about that. Yeah, ain't look, you ain't gonna

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot of he owns. He owns Uh.

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Speaker 2: So he owns the Lakers now the Dodgers Chelsea. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he owns an F one racing team, l A Sparks

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Speaker 2: goog googen him right. Oh yeah, Lord have mercy. Yeah

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Speaker 2: he finna he's finna put him. He's finna put him

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Speaker 2: in a different strategy field. Man. He you know, when

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Speaker 2: it ain't no limit to what they're willing to do

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Speaker 2: And like you said, he does have Luca. He has

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Speaker 1: The Lakers have always had a superstar.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that they've all they they've all they've

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Speaker 2: If you go back, you're study the Lakers since they've

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Speaker 2: they got Kareem and then they got Magic and then

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, well he's you know, had the HIV diagnosis.

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Speaker 2: And now when Lebron you know, transitions away to a

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Speaker 2: a superstar. And that's what if you're in l A Look,

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00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 2: LA is about superstars. It's really that simple. You go

438
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: back and look at the Dodgers, whether it was Colfax

439
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: or all the people that get the guys that they've had.

440
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: That's what you need to think about this.

441
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: Uh, you know they're gonna bring they gotta bring them

442
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: guys some help. They gotta bring some help in the

443
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: LA meaning you know we talked about them always need

444
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: them big, you know, especially throughout this postseason. So I

445
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: expect this off season for the NBA to be one

446
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 2: to remember. And I can see the Lakers making a

447
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: big push for for for a big trade or something.

448
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: They gotta do something to get to get somebody in

449
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: there to help them guys. Man, especially if you want

450
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: to be if you want to be in contentions when

451
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 2: it comes down to the playoffs next.

452
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: Year because the West is too deep. The West is

453
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: too deep.

454
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, to try to put that weight and that load

455
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: on strictly Lebron and Luca. They gonna need some help.

456
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: They need a big They really need a big bag.

457
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it. I ain't just talking about somebody

458
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: just big, just big. I'm talking about somebody big that

459
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: you can count and say, Okay, every game I'm gonna

460
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: get I'm gonna get ten to fourteen from that person.

461
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get somewhere seven to ten rebounds from that person. Uh,

462
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, just having somebody that's because they sell them

463
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: foot tall in one game to give you ten. The

464
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: next game they give you cardio. That ain't gonna cut it.

465
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: That's really not h You need. You need a couple

466
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: of shooters, and you need a big. You need some consistency. Hey,

467
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: look a lot of room was floating around by a

468
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of guys. Man, And uh, I'm looking forward to this,

469
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: to this free agency, to the draft. Obviously, I think

470
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 2: things were probably transpired before the draft, some of these trades,

471
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: and uh, I'm looking for the Lakers to make a

472
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: big splash.

473
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: The draft is a twenty fifth. The drafting next Wednesday,

474
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: then yeah, well.

475
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Since speaking of trade, the Lakers and Jazz have reportedly

476
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: discussed the trade center around Rual Hotche, Murrow and John

477
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: Collins for Anthony Irwin. Many within the Lakers organization believe

478
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: Collins would be especially great fit alongside Luca.

479
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: He could jump out the gym.

480
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: Since their seasons ended, they have had few conversation with

481
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: Utah to try to land the twenty seven year old,

482
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 2: big big man, with Rouy hotchim or offten the centerpiece

483
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: of the deal. Yeah, I like John Collins. He plays

484
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta for a little while.

485
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: Yep.

486
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: I think he'll be a great addition for those guys

487
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 2: because he offensively, you know, he can, he can score

488
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: it a little bit. Defensively, he's solid, and he'll be

489
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: a guy who can definitely take some pressure off those guys.

490
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: And you know, from night to night, any given night,

491
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, he can have big nights, you know what

492
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 2: I mean.

493
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: Yep, he can.

494
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: He can give you twenty five points twelve rebounds on

495
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: any given night. And I think to have guys like that,

496
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna need that throughout the throughout the

497
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: regular season and if you make it to the postseason,

498
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: to h to be lead, to be able to compete

499
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: in at Western Conference, man, you're gonna need you need

500
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: John Collins.

501
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: You still may need a little more help though you

502
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, yeah for sure.

503
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: But all things being equal, I probably would have rather

504
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: have Kessler. I'd rather have a big that can dominate

505
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 2: the paint because he's a he's a great rem protector,

506
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: he can block shots. He can be a lob threat

507
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: if needed. But I uh uh, that's that's look. John

508
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: Collins is a lob threat. He can make you know.

509
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: He like you said, he probably give you fifteen to

510
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: seventeen a night. But they really need a big. They

511
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: need somebody a joe that can that can block shot,

512
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: that can protect the paint because when they go when

513
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: they go big and they have Ruy and Lebron playing

514
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: the four and the five of the five and the

515
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 2: four hive, you want to look at him.

516
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: That's not enough. That ain't gonna win you. That that's

517
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: not gonna win your.

518
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Championship with Lebron and Ruy Hotchimore playing four or five

519
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: or five.

520
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: And four, it ain't. But the thing is it ain't many.

521
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: It ain't many big guys out here, Like, dang, they

522
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: should have got that guy from Carolina, from Charlotte.

523
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: What's you think they can still get them Mark Williams.

524
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, free Look look look what he he averaged, like

525
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: sixteen and ten for them.

526
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but he don't.

527
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: Man, they gonna get They get a big to average

528
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: sixteen and ten. Oh they go, they going to the West,

529
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: the conference finals.

530
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: But he's on a bad team. You know he can

531
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: he do that with the Laker.

532
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you think he can ge And the expect expectations

533
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: is gonna be different, Joe, It's gonna be a lot different.

534
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: It's a lot different playing playing down there in Charlotte

535
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: with no with no ain't nobody watching, nobody watching. Man,

536
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: it's a little different. You could come out, you know,

537
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: play Lucy Goose and have fun. You get to l

538
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 2: a every game. You're gonna feel like you in the finals.

539
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: Almost. Well, what about DeAndre Ayton?

540
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: I like it. I like DeAndre Ayden here free agent? No,

541
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: but he probably could be had. Oh he's up, so

542
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: we do he have a three plus three plus an option.

543
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: It's a team option, a player option. Damn, it's been

544
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 2: that long since they wanted your finals.

545
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: Hey, uh, you t ain't trying to get off marketment

546
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: over there.

547
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: Laurd Oh nah, hell nah. You should try to build

548
00:25:51,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: around him, man. Yeah, well, he he's a good eight.

549
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: It's good because he has an expiring contract. He only

550
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: has this one this last year coming up, so he's

551
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: a prime cander. You know, they love NBA. They love

552
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: getting these guys on the last last year of a deal, Joe,

553
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: because you're gonna because you know what you're gonna get

554
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: out of him.

555
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get the best. You're gonna get the best

556
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: out of him.

557
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: You playing with he tried to get He tried to

558
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: he tried to get that Muller, He tried to get

559
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: that Spriller. You already know. Hey, no way, they give

560
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: it out nowadays. Boy, you being fool not to be

561
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: out there and give him your best. Oh yeah, yeah,

562
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: give him give him twenty and ten. That's that's forty men,

563
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: that's five years. That's for four year, five years, two

564
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: hundred meal. I like eight, and I think you can

565
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: even play through him a little bit, you know, from

566
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but I don't know if that's gonna happen.

567
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: I know it's wish for thinking for you. You know

568
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: you'll you're fig Joe Swaggy p have a hot take

569
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: this morning. Tim Duncan, Spurs was not a dynasty team.

570
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: Man. I ran into him a few times.

571
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: Uh what was that two thousand and two. I was

572
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: playing with Marlberry, he was a point guard. We were

573
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: a seed playing against the Spurs, who was a one seed.

574
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: I think there was a Marius rookie year. Uh, we

575
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: played them and we won game one, Uncle san Antonio.

576
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: But after that it was a rap whether A couple

577
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: of years later we get Steve Nash.

578
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: Obviously we're the best team in the league, and uh,

579
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: they beat us again like they have been in the way,

580
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: like the San Anto What do you mean they ain't

581
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: been a dynasty?

582
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I was.

583
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: But I want to know his definition. I mean you

584
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: figured you look at all the championships they won. They won,

585
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: and they.

586
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: Won in ninety nine, Yeah that's what they won. In

587
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 1: what three?

588
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: They won in probably what five? They wanted seven? He

589
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: ain't said they was Swedish. So I want to know

590
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: what his definition is, Bro, you can be a dynasty. Look,

591
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing is what happened. Unless you want

592
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: a three pet like the Laker, like a Shaton, Toby

593
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: or Jordan, you're not a dynasty. That's bullgyiin, No, they

594
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: won fourtunes, they won four championships and at least a

595
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: ten year span.

596
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: What is that? I would definitely call it a diner.

597
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: How many teams, how many teams other than the Celtics,

598
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: the sixty Celtics can say they won four championships and

599
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: a ten year span. Basically, you looking at the Celtics

600
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: and you're looking at the Bulls. The Bulls won six

601
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: and an eight year span. But I'm trying to figure

602
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: out so who else, who else can say that?

603
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Nobody? So I guess you. I guess you're gonna say

604
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: what you call what the dynasty the.

605
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: Warriors wars, not that I mean, but by his talking,

606
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: the Warriors was not a dynasty.

607
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: He played And just because you don't win time, I guess.

608
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: You can say, well, they didn't because the Spurs they

609
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: never did win the title back to back but four

610
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: and ten years, so it might have been more than

611
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: shorter than that.

612
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Ninety nine three oh five, Oh.

613
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: No, they know, no, that'll be five I'm saying. But

614
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: it won four like a like an eight year span.

615
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: So ninety nine, three oh five and anyone what another

616
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: seven and seven?

617
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Yeah? What you know what

618
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 1: it is? Oh? They want yeah, bro, come on, bro,

619
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: they weren't they won four to eight.

620
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 2: Years because I from swaggering probably thinking like you know,

621
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: they wasn't exciting to watch. You know, no they're not.

622
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: They're broccoli fighting to watch. But you ain't good to you,

623
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: but it's good for you. They got it done, man,

624
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: they got it done. I don't care how you cut it.

625
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: I consider that. I definitely consider them a dynasty. Yeah

626
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: for sure. Oh yeah, yeah. Look you look at what

627
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: they had. They got Tim Duncan, who's uh. You can

628
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: make a case that either top ten player of all

629
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: time with those accomplishments both offensively and defensively. You look

630
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: at Tony Parker and look how he did it with

631
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: the exception of Duncan. Did you actually think, well, they

632
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: got Tony Parker and they got Moneled Genobi. Do you

633
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: think at one point, what point in time did you say,

634
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: you know what, Marna, you know that he gonna be

635
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame player. Tony Parker is gonna best

636
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: rude to be a finals MVP. There wasn't. They wasn't.

637
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand that Parker was a first round pick,

638
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: but he wasn't highly acclaim. He wasn't no lot to

639
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: be picked. He wasn't think what Tony Parker like nineteen

640
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: twenty something. Hey, that was my draft.

641
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: That was old one.

642
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: We came in together. But what break was Parker Parker's

643
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 2: like number twenty two or something like that. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty eight. Yeah, that last, that's almost last

645
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: in the first round. Yeah, and Genoba was the second

646
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: round pick.

647
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Because it's the system.

648
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: It's the system they have that Pop has created, the

649
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: plug and play, you know, it's having that discipline, understanding

650
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: your play. Gotta players gotta play a certain way. Yeah,

651
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: understanding your role. And we ain't having no foolishness around here,

652
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: hear me. It ain't gonna be no foolishness. Hey, we're

653
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: gonna be led by by Tim Duncan, who has been

654
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: awesome since since he's came into the NBA. Playing next

655
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: to David Robinson. Yeah, plug and play, baby plug, and

656
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 2: they had the luxury when Tim came Tim was a

657
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: grown up. Yeah, he spent four years in college. So

658
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: he wasn't eighteen, he wasn't nineteen, he wasn't twenty. He

659
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: was a full grown man. And he don't get that today.

660
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: And he conducted himself as a full grown man. And

661
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 2: you know, coach Popovich and coach Belichick, they get along.

662
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: There a lot of light because Timmy allowed coach Pop

663
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: to coach him hard. Tom allowed coach Belichick to coach

664
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: him hard. So if your best player is getting coached hard,

665
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: how you think you're gonna get coached How can you

666
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: complain when they don't complain?

667
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: Timmy never complained.

668
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: And the thing was, and that's kind of what ended

669
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: up breaking the Spurs up because everybody up until Kawhi

670
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: allowed coach Pop to coach him a certain way. I

671
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: agree Kawhi was very une and why was different And

672
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: sometimes the best job sometimes as a cult, you have

673
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: to understand who you could ride and who you have

674
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: to paddle on the back because you can't put your

675
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: foot in everybody's butt because some guys are buck right.

676
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: You say, look, you got to think about this too.

677
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Before they got Tim Duncan, they were one of the

678
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: top teams in the NBA, and then I think they

679
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: had an injury. I don't know if David Robinson got

680
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: injured how they ended up getting and Tim Duncan. They

681
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: had them twin towers and it's like they were cheating.

682
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, right, I thought Tim Duncan came into the

683
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: NBA and he was very mature, you know, for a rookie,

684
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: and yeah, you don't necessarily see that meaning you could

685
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: play through him. He was so dominated at that power

686
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: forward position. It wasn't many guys who was stopping. No,

687
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: he understood the system. He played within the system, and

688
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: they dominated. They dominated. I think that was what the

689
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: lockout year when he came in. Yep, yeah, yep. So

690
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: you look at you got. You got David Robinson, Tim Duncan.

691
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah to David Robinson, Tim Duncan, and I

692
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: think Sean Elliott he's on that team. Yeah, yeah, they

693
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: there's some great veteran Avery Johnson.

694
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, look, you got two tops.

695
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 2: You got two top seventy five players with David Robinson

696
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: and Tim Duncan, even though Timmy was a rookie, right,

697
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: but he was mature. I think the last senior to

698
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: be number one overall was Kenyon Martin, which was the

699
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: next year.

700
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

701
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So now guys are coming out of freshman and

702
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: then at the one point in time, the guys you know,

703
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: Lebron and Dwight Howard didn't even go to college and

704
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: they were the number one overall. So you got to

705
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: go back twenty five twenty six years the last time

706
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: you had a senior be selected number one overall. Because

707
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: people look at to see, oh Joe now with the

708
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: money being, they're like, bro, you that good? Why you

709
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: still in college? That ain't love even if you're a junior.

710
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Bro you had, I mean, hold on you that good?

711
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: What you're still doing here? Hey? Because when I was

712
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: in college, that was the thing. It was like, man,

713
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: you stayed more than two years, they gonna think something

714
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: wrong with you.

715
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Mm hm. And uh you know I got that uh.

716
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: From the from the late great uh uh Wallace Praither

717
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: who coached to Atlanta Celtics out here in Atlanta when

718
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: I was when I was a junior high school, I

719
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: came out here and played with the Celtics, And that's

720
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: that's one thing he was telling, Man, you stay longer

721
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: than two years, they're gonna think something wrong with you. Nowadays,

722
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: you ain't getting there. It ain't gonna be no number

723
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: one pick as no senior no more. I know ain't

724
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: gonna see that no more.

725
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: No. And even with the nil then like cool flashes,

726
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: stay another Yeah for what, I ain't staying no more.

727
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: His whole hit, The whole objective is get to the

728
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: end of the NBA or the NFL. Okay, if I

729
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 2: can collect five six eight million dollars and get and

730
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: get there in the same amount of time.

731
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: No, all they did was speed up the process.

732
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, my ability and the ability to enter into the

733
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: draft now it's different than the NFL because you can't

734
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: go before your junior year. But other than that, I'm

735
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: not waiting around. I'm trying to get to the bag

736
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: as soon as I possibly can. Yeah, because the sooner he.

737
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Get in there and playing them get them two three years.

738
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: Up, they're gonna now they're gonna wlop him down, exactly, Joe.

739
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: There's been some drama recently surrounding future pick Ah Bailey.

740
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Bailey reported canceled his pre draft workout with the Sixers.

741
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: The Sixers have not ruled out selecting Bailey with the

742
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: number three overall pick in the twenty twenty five draft.

743
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: Team Phil Bailey has received poor advice during the pre

744
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: draft process after agent demanded payment for interviews. Ace Bailey

745
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: reported had Omar Cooper, the father of Sharif Cooper, representing

746
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: him as an agent. Bailey remains the only US best

747
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: base prospect yet to visit any teams. Joe, if you

748
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: could offer, you went through this process, you played fifteen

749
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: plus years. What's some advice you would give As Bailey

750
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: if you could talk get his ear uh for me? Man,

751
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: I would tell him, at least, here's some of these

752
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: teams are you know, maybe maybe maybe the first few

753
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: teams that's picking. Maybe he don't even want to be

754
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: drafted by you know what I mean. But I've had

755
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: a chance to see As Bailey play in high school

756
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: and in college. He is gonna be an elite pro

757
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: and maybe he knows and understands that.

758
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: He probably knows understanding his work.

759
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: But there is a process that we all have to

760
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: go through when we when we are trying to enter

761
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: the NBA draft. And I'm not sure what you know

762
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: his his agent is telling them or what they're thinking.

763
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: But if I'm Philly, man, it's gonna be hard to

764
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: pass him up. Yeah, mancuse Philly, that three, That man

765
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: got a whole lot of game man, and I.

766
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Could see him fitting in seamlessly.

767
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: With you know, uh Tyrese, Tyrese Aliburton.

768
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you hope, you get hope you can get and be.

769
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: Back healthy, Tyrese, max In the MB, Tyree's Baxen, not

770
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Halibert's say Helabern, Maxic m B and even Paul George.

771
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: I think you know they gotta they gotta and they

772
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: got some great young pieces over there too already. But

773
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: he can flat out score that ball man. He can fly. Yeah, McCain,

774
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: I think McCain got hurt. McCain, he got hurt. So

775
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I thought Philly dealt with a lot of injuries. But

776
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: add him to that man, that that's that's a good look.

777
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: He can play all well. I understand Keavin Mavericks ain't

778
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: working anybody out but Cooper flag So you aren't gonna

779
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: work out for them anyway now too, san Antonio at

780
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: three Philly, because you look, san Antonio.

781
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: Got a lot of guards already.

782
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: You know, they got they got a castle, they got vassal,

783
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: they got a what's the other, uh, Sir Sean d

784
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Fox, The likelihood of them going because how.

785
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: Tall is he a guard? Here? Yeah, he can. He

786
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna play this too.

787
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: He about six eight, about six eighth, so okay, he

788
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: he uh, he do a little bit everything.

789
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: He's sixteen, Joe.

790
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: I ain't I didn't stand next to him, but from

791
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: what I've seen, the man jump ball, he played the point,

792
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: he did everything. He can rebound outside of his area

793
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: like and not only that, like he has.

794
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: A pro game already the way he plays.

795
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: If you gonna look at when he played at Rutgers, like,

796
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: look at the shots that he took, like that man

797
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: is a hell of a shot maker.

798
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

799
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: So in the pros, that's what you're looking for. You

800
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: looking for guys who can make tough shots. He's gonna

801
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: be a great pro man regardless of where you go.

802
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: But uh, if Philly passed up on him at the

803
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: at the three spot, they gonna probably regret that. Yeah,

804
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: he tried. He tried to pull a Charles Barker. Charles

805
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Barker said they wanted him at like two eighty. Charles said, bad, Philly,

806
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: go check take me. And they ain't got no money

807
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: till about paying me fifty thousand he said, Man, I

808
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: ain't leave all but for fifty thousands, he said, bad.

809
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: I went the Seals.

810
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: Little had be like three people, had two baked potatoes,

811
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: all that bread.

812
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: I waited at two ninety nine, like we still go

813
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: draft you fast as Look. I wonder is it that

814
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: he don't want to go to Philly? Uh?

815
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Maybe, but I'm surprised consider that h Rutgers is I

816
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: mean Jersey right down, I mean you right down the road.

817
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: But he probably won't. He probably want that instant, that

818
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: instant uh uh uh, you know, productivity when he coming

819
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: to the NBA. You know, if he go to Philly,

820
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: you know, it's still a pecking order. You know, Oh

821
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: he's joeling b Yeah, I don't care how good he played,

822
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: it's still gonna be a pecking order.

823
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Well. Hell, he ain't worked out for nobody, Joe, I know.

824
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I give me the top five,

825
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: give me the top five spot.

826
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I know Mavericks got one, san Antonio got to Philly

827
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: got three, who got four and five? I think Hunt

828
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: has got the fourth pick, Charlotte has four.

829
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: You taed. He ain't really trying to go to another

830
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: of them? Now, hen't to be out of Joe. He

831
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: ain't really try to go another deal, but I want

832
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: you on that.

833
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: It looks but if I'm him, Charlotte might not be

834
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: a bad spot. Meaning it is this Charlotte. It's gonna

835
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: be bad. But look, they gotta get some playoffs. They

836
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: need more players around LaMelo. You already got Melo over there,

837
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: and Brandon Miller, and you add a Bailey with that.

838
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: Man.

839
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: That's what he afraid of. He said, I don't want

840
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: to get added to that. I would have get some

841
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: tracted from that. See you try to do addition. I've

842
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: tried to do some tracks. But he gonna be able

843
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: to put up them numbers that he probably, you know,

844
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: thinking about putting up. You over there with the hornets,

845
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: you better put up some numbers. Your numbers will be

846
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: better over there then they gonna be in Philly. A

847
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: if if a tree falls in the forest and nobody

848
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: hears it, doesn't make it sound you scoring thirty in Charlotte.

849
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Look at Mello Melo average twenty five, twenty six in Charlotte.

850
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: The ain't nobody paying no attention to it. That's because

851
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: they got a win man. You got them in them markets.

852
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: You gotta win in order to be to get some notoriety,

853
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 2: you gotta win. Okay, yeah, yeah, eighth baby. One of

854
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: the promise for the Sixers before agreed to meet with them,

855
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: per Jason Domus promise to what he promised?

856
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: What he said that if he if he goes and

857
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: visits to him.

858
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: He wanted to promise I promise him say yeah, bro,

859
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: you know question, we're gonna drave you.

860
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: And then like no, we're not gonna drive him. Oh

861
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: so they wanted a promise. He wanted a promise.

862
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably felt like he number one pick worthy.

863
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: But obviously you know you ain't getting that. They're gonna do.

864
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: Maverick's gonna take Cooper fe Mavick taking Cooper Cooper Flag

865
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: And maybe in any other draft that might have been

866
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: a possibility. But after Cooper Flag did what he did

867
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: on the US elect team and then the type of season.

868
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: That he had, a duke, wouldn't nobody going in front

869
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: of that kid? Man.

870
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, dude, this dude is gonna

871
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: be a hell of a pro man. I'm not saying

872
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: that did not, but he gonna go in front of the

873
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 2: Cooper of Flag. He ain't going in front the Cooper flag.

874
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: I understand that, but where he do go I think

875
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: it does make a difference. Uh Now, I know, I say,

876
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: you know, Philly, Philly shouldn't pass up on him. But

877
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: if the way him and his agent is probably thinking

878
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: at this point, like, man, we want to get you

879
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: into a situation to where where you can play right away.

880
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

881
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe they maybe they turned Philly down because

882
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: they do want.

883
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: To go to uh uh all of that elsewhere. I don't know.

884
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: Somebody might shoot up the board. But if I'm Charlotte,

885
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: I ain't passing it right. You can't cause you got

886
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: you got Dylan Harper. I don't think Dylan Harper Gordon

887
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: and san Antonio because they got a boat, little guards

888
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: to begin with, the last thing, the last thing Dylan

889
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Harper need is is a is to be in San

890
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: Antonio with Fox, with Stefan Castle, with so Sean.

891
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Who do you think they gonna take with that number two?

892
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: That number two pick?

893
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Then you think they're gonna you gonna think they're gonna

894
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 2: take Dylan Harper?

895
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I think they're gonna really yeah.

896
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Nah, I trade say a Phoenix, I traded give me

897
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, and that's why I think is gonna happen.

898
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's not you know, I think I

899
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: think at the end that at.

900
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: The end of I think Durant is gonna probably end

901
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: up going to the Spurs and that's probably gonna send

902
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: Dylan Harper probably the Phoenix. Because I think the thing is, Look,

903
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: I would love to see k D and Houston with

904
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: with Aarmen Thompson and Shing.

905
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: Gooon you bring you bring Van Fleet back.

906
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: So because I think the thing that hurt Houston and

907
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: Layton games, they ain't got nobody can give it to

908
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: see what KD.

909
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: You got somebody that you can give it to Layton games.

910
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: Shing Gooon is an All NBA select I mean he

911
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: went to the All Star Game this year.

912
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Arm and Thompson. It's a he's rising.

913
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: He coming, Yeah, play tremendous defense, can go get buckets.

914
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: I love him.

915
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: You got a four floord general and Van Fleet that's

916
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: won a championship, knows what it takes to win. I

917
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: like that they got great pieces. I mean they were

918
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: the number two CD yep. The thing else I'll be

919
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: willing to give you one. I give you your Barsmith Junior.

920
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: I'll give you Jalen Green, but you can't have both

921
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: of them for k D. Yeah, i'll give you. I'll

922
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: give you one of them and at a first in

923
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: our first round pick Phoenix gone go on both of them. No,

924
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: can't do. They've they've already come down on the asking price.

925
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: Because the thing is is that you're looking at a

926
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: situation where they're like, well man, Desmond Bane went for

927
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: X amount of picks, but Desmond Bank, No, he's not

928
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: the player that Kevin Durant is. But he's probably seven

929
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: to ten years younger than Kevin Durant and doesn't have

930
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: the history of being injured like Kevin Durant. And Orlando

931
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: was indeed of some shooting yet and some defense on

932
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: the forerima. Now, yeah, they needed so it's probably they

933
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: probably more likely over you know, over compensated for him.

934
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: But they and they had a boat.

935
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: But the thing Yil Joe, they're on a handful of

936
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: teams that had a boatloader pick that could throw out them.

937
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: San Antonio got a boat little picks, Orlando had a

938
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 2: boatlottle picks. Brooklyn got a boatload of picks. So they

939
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: got Okay, see, so you got ten first round picks,

940
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: so who'll killed a heck if you give up four

941
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 2: of them? And we're looking at with Paulo Bank, Caro Franz, Wagner,

942
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Desmond Bang, Jlem Suggs, we gonna be winning, and so

943
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna be no lot of the picks anyway.

944
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: So that's why we left him up protected because you're

945
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: gonna be picking in the twitter, right, we don't need

946
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: to protect nothing to twenty right, and I feel like

947
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: Orlando feel like they time can be now. It can't

948
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: be right, you know, because looking at the it's why

949
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: JT's hurt. He's gonna be gone for at least a year.

950
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: Ah Man Durank going to he going to San Antonio. Yeah,

951
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: he gonna saying because they you're right, they not gonna,

952
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: They not gonna. I can't really see a rookie helping

953
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: san Antonio get to where they're trying to get to

954
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: at this point because they got so many, they got.

955
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: Enough young player.

956
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: Hell, we'll be only the third really, women will really

957
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: be a second year because you got he ended up.

958
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: He played less than half the year, so now he's

959
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: coming back. You got Castle, who was a rookie last year. Yeah,

960
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: you got some veteran guys. You got Dearon Foxing, you

961
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: got Shashan and you got Vassals Kelton Johnson.

962
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: You got some guys. But do you really think.

963
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: A rookie is gonna come and look, I mean in

964
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: order to like I said, think about the rookies that's

965
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: helped win a championsh.

966
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Magic Johnson, you got Tim Duncan, and.

967
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: That's Look, but that's that's that's kind of why I'm

968
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 2: I'm I'm like when you look at Dallas them taking

969
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, you think Cooper Flag gonna be able to

970
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 2: get them back to the finals?

971
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: He too good to fight, He too good to u

972
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: His projection says, he's too good to pass up.

973
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's it's it's gonna be Uh,

974
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting next this this next week is

975
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty interesting. I think we're gonna see a

976
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: lot of guys moving around and uh, obviously Durant is

977
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 2: probably gonna be one of the first guys, you know,

978
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: to to to join a new team. And whatever team

979
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: he joins, H, we know they gonna be favorite. They

980
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: gonna be one of the favorites anyway, for sure. Uh,

981
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: what does Fridges is start because you can have I

982
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: think they got a tampering period in July.

983
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: They can start with your fifth July seven or June thirty. Wow, yeah,

984
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: so hell eleven days.

985
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's gonna be so small theah yeah, yeah,

986
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: Fin's gotta get some draft capitol back. But they really

987
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: want a good. They want a good They want at

988
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: least one of two players that can come in and play.

989
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: Right now, Hey, if you just send him to Houston,

990
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: you get Green and Jabari Smith Jr. I don't think

991
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: they'll give up both of them. Joe, You don't think so, man,

992
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: I think they give up one. They weren't really playing

993
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: Japari like that though. No, No, they weren't really playing.

994
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Them like that.

995
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: And I feel like if you send him to Phoenix,

996
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: they'll put him in a spot the word he can

997
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: flourish rak and succeed, yeah and reach his his What

998
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: about Jaalen Green de Phoenix? Because him and him and

999
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: Book is the same type of a guy, I mean,

1000
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean phantasy. The part they need to get Book

1001
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: off the ball, let Book go back there is to

1002
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: let Book do what book does Chris Paul was, I

1003
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 2: don't know why they got rid of think about this though,

1004
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: if Phoenix.

1005
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: Do get Jalen Green, ain't you got Bradley Beal already? That?

1006
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: But what we're doing? Yeah? True? So Jabari Smith will

1007
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: be the one they want. Yeah so I don't know.

1008
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: Man insider Jake Fisher believe Durant is going to Miami.

1009
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: Joe what can I'm just trying to figure out what

1010
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: can Miami offer that the Sun?

1011
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: That? What can they offer the Sun?

1012
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Well? I mean, you got two players, and you don't

1013
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: want to give up either one of them. You don't

1014
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: want to give up Bama. You don't want to give

1015
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: up Tyler Hero. Well, if your action price don win down,

1016
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: do you have some picks? Let me think of a

1017
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: couple of players you can throw all. They ain't got

1018
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: no picks. I know Duncan, Robinson, Hot Smith, Hoimi, Howkas Hobvid.

1019
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: That's why I can't see him going to Miami, because

1020
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: they ain't really got nothing. They gonna give up guys,

1021
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna try to keep them. So you compare them

1022
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: with KD. I don't see him going to Miami. Do

1023
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: you think let's just say for the sake of argument

1024
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: for this discussion, he goes to Miami or Miami automatically

1025
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: contending with him Bam and Tyler Hero.

1026
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah in the East, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

1027
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Uh oh they got they got they got my young

1028
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 2: boy over there, kel A whare he got?

1029
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: You got some value in him?

1030
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: Six eleven seven foot You know he played great this

1031
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: year for.

1032
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: The Miami Heat.

1033
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah if he if Durank go to Miami, yeah,

1034
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: they gonna be one of the favorites for sure. I

1035
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: think the thing is what happened was matt ishber Ishpa

1036
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: I know went to what I went to the WNB

1037
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: All Star Game, had an opportunity to have some good

1038
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: conversation with it.

1039
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: I think the thing is like when you come in,

1040
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I'm winning. I'm waring.

1041
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: And he made some moves that and you're like, you

1042
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: go back and look at like, if you got Katie,

1043
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: do you really need Bradley? Beal right, you probably need

1044
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: to go get somebody the baby, Go get a big

1045
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: or get somebody that can defend, because you got a

1046
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: bunch of guys that can score and to defend on

1047
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: a nightly basis, you gotta have the you gotta be

1048
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: able to defend. Look at the two teams that's in

1049
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: the final. They got wings that can defend. Yeah, you

1050
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: got Nie Smith, you got them hard, you got set defend,

1051
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,240
Speaker 2: you got math Ron, you got guys that can defend.

1052
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: And obviously we know what you got.

1053
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 2: Okay, see with those winging guys, so you got all

1054
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: this offense and you don't got the thing was with Phoenix,

1055
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: they couldn't stop anybody. Yeah, they they could score, but

1056
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: if it's a nip tuck ball game, now, guess what

1057
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 2: they're getting. Their positions are a lot easier than yours. Yeah,

1058
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was a pretty good risk. I think

1059
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: the guys that you put around those three, meaning Devin, Booker,

1060
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: Bill and Durant, I think that's the key. You need

1061
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 2: guys surrounding those guys who are like blue collar, hard

1062
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: working guys and kind of let them guys just kind of,

1063
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, obviously play but you know score, but uh,

1064
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: you need guys who understand their role man, and they

1065
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: just ain't had I don't feel like they had the

1066
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: right pieces around me.

1067
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: Joe.

1068
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I spent all the money on the house, so the

1069
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: furniture gonna be ish. Hey, look ip over budget as

1070
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: it is, Joe, i'p over a budget as it is.

1071
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: Look you, I'm telling you I'm the guy. Joe. I

1072
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: got a house.

1073
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: My agent, my financial people said, okay, Shallon, I wanted

1074
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: the house in Atlanta. Came to Freak Naked ninety two

1075
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: ninety three, called my agent before I left. I said, man,

1076
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 2: I moved to I thought you wanted the houses about.

1077
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: I said, man, didn't I tell you y'all want a

1078
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: house house? Somebody find me the house in Atlanta. So

1079
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: they said, at the time, I think I was making

1080
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: bout seven think I'll make it by six hundred thousand.

1081
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: So they say, okay, you know you're supposed to get

1082
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: a house.

1083
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 2: You get a house, that's your salary, you know, whatever

1084
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 2: half of your salary. So I was like, okay, this

1085
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: say Shannon for twenty five, you know, and for twenty five.

1086
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1087
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: So the first house the lady showed me, actually it

1088
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: was Sugar Ray Leonards ex wife.

1089
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: What need us? It was her old house.

1090
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: I walked in there. It was in Buckhead. Because I

1091
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: was gonna look at Buckhead. I was looking she stopped

1092
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 2: being Buckhead. Then I was going to Stone Mountain, then

1093
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: I was going to Alphareto.

1094
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, But in the.

1095
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: House, I walked around, saw that marble, all that, all

1096
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: that radio, saw the fireless staircase. John's like, ooh this night.

1097
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: She said, oh, wait, do you see down? You know,

1098
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: down got a finished basement. I said, really, I ain't

1099
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: never seen no baby before. Joe, I'll be there, Joe,

1100
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: excuse me. I go downstairs, three thousand square foot finished basement.

1101
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: So now she's like, okay, this is the first house.

1102
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: I was saying to myself, I don't want to see

1103
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: nothing new, yo, I don't want to see nothing else.

1104
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. She said, no, we we got

1105
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: some other houses we go to see. I said, okay, man,

1106
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 2: the mother houses and they were really nice. It was

1107
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: all like she was showing me our house. I said,

1108
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: I want to go back. So I said, let's go

1109
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: back to the first house. I cut, I cut to.

1110
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: I saw one. I saw one in bathfrenda and I

1111
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: saw one in them and marry yea. I said, let's

1112
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: go back to the first house. I asked nothing and

1113
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: I saw one in the stole out. I said, let's

1114
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: go back to that first house.

1115
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: She drove me. She took me back to the first house.

1116
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that my people

1117
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: had already told her the budget.

1118
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, then damn budget and went out the door.

1119
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred and eighty thousand over budget, Joe, I

1120
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: had a for two years.

1121
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: I had a bed and a TV. You adn't putting

1122
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: some funds in there? Why I don't put it in

1123
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 1: that with Yeah, that's spend dollar money in the house.

1124
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: You can get I ain't get in. No furniture. I ain't.

1125
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: Hey, somebody come up, Hey, Joe, somebody come over. They

1126
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: can fit the living room and go see down on

1127
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: the floor watching TV.

1128
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I add. So that's the thing

1129
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: with you with Phoenix.

1130
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 2: You got Kadie, you got a bill, you got booked,

1131
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: you got out a scr. But you got in is furniture.

1132
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 2: You ain't got nothing. And and that's why they look

1133
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 2: the way they've looked. You can't.

1134
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: They ain't even made.

1135
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: They ain't made the play in so they gotta hey, look,

1136
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: so we one thing we do know is they more

1137
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: than likely or they are gonna trade durant.

1138
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: Yes, they got a book. Can't going nowhere.

1139
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: And it doesn't seem like because he has a no

1140
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: trade I mean, let's let this sink in. Bradley Bill

1141
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: and Lebron James are the only two players that have

1142
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: a no trade clause.

1143
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1144
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: Hey, so now he control it. You can't trol it,

1145
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: you can't get trade it. He was like, yeah, I

1146
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: wan't gonna trade you. No, I'm not going there all

1147
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: right because I think they we want to go damn

1148
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: because they wanted to get off Bill, but they can't.

1149
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: They can't. They can't, so they gotta make it work.

1150
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: So that's why I say, ye, you gotta If from Phoenix,

1151
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm going with some young guys who have proven that

1152
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, they can play in this league.

1153
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: Aston for me, Houston would be oh Houston.

1154
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you I'm saying, if you can get back

1155
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: Green and Parker Jabari Parker like no, Smith, Jabari Smith Jr. Man,

1156
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: that's that'll help your team. Yeah, for sure, that'll help

1157
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: your team. Now, the problem you're gonna have because both

1158
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: of those guys love to score, and you got Bradley

1159
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: Beal with Devin Booker and Jalen Green, you know you

1160
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 2: might be back in the.

1161
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: Same position he was in.

1162
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in the same spot. But you do

1163
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: have a big, active, big uh he got. He's gotta eat.

1164
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna need to get a little better. I think

1165
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: he will a little bit, a little bit more bricks

1166
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: in his pocket. I think, you know, his limited playtime

1167
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: because you had Shing Goon playing so well. But it's

1168
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how this thing played out.

1169
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 2: The one thing we do know, they want to move

1170
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. They tried to move back to the trade deadline,

1171
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: and He's like, Noah, let me go ahead and stay

1172
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: here because I come with a lot, yeah, you know,

1173
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm gonna need some time to integrate.

1174
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna need some some camps and some

1175
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: you know, some uh preseason to get into the floor

1176
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 2: of things. But man, if he goes to San Antonio,

1177
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: that's gonna be cheating again. Yeah, him and Winby and

1178
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: Castle and Deer and Fox, san Antonio gonna be right back, yeah,

1179
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: because they got that mean Look, okay, see got the picks.

1180
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: He's not going to Okay, see Brooklyn got the picks.

1181
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: He's not going to Brooklyn. San Antonio got picks. Houston

1182
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: got some picks and they got some players. See Houston

1183
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: have Houston and San Antonio have picks and players.

1184
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: That's why I think this is gonna be one of

1185
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: them two teams. Mm hmmm.

1186
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: He already said he wanted to go to what Texas

1187
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 2: or team with no state tax?

1188
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: Yep, Texas. Uh the Spurs rockets heat.

1189
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: There you go. I don't see the heat. I don't

1190
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 2: see the heat happening. I don't think they got enough.

1191
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't either. I don't either.

1192
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: But uh, to help Phoenix, you know, fulfill anything to

1193
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: get to get back some that's worth the value for

1194
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant.

1195
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: So I don't really see that in Miami. I don't

1196
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: see it. The volume