WEBVTT - Boeing and the Commercial Jet Age

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios,

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to Tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works and I heart Radio and a love

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<v Speaker 1>of all things tech. And we are continuing our series

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<v Speaker 1>on Boeing, and before we get into it, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you guys, technically, I probably could have

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<v Speaker 1>done maybe two or three or four more episodes about

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing because the company has done a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of controversy around some of those things,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those elements are pretty deep and could

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<v Speaker 1>they could all justify an episode all by themselves. But

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<v Speaker 1>rather than turn this into the Boeing Podcast, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would kind of some up things in this third part.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to skip over a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you guys are really interested, I could always

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<v Speaker 1>go back and do a couple of episodes that really

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<v Speaker 1>focus on some of the individual stories on a more

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<v Speaker 1>granular level. But rather than have this series go on indefinitely,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just going to press about seventy years of history

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<v Speaker 1>together into one episode. So, considering the first two episodes

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<v Speaker 1>were thirty years, we're gonna be taking some liberties. But

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<v Speaker 1>in our last episode, we looked at a very busy

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<v Speaker 1>time for Boeing because the company had become a major

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<v Speaker 1>part of the war effort for the United States during

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two, and we also looked at how Boeing

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<v Speaker 1>continued to develop both military and civilian aircraft after the

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<v Speaker 1>war was over, and we finished with a discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>the development of the seven oh seven, which was Boeing's

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<v Speaker 1>first mass produced commercial jet, so passenger jet like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind we have today now. As I mentioned in that episode,

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<v Speaker 1>the development process for the seven oh seven represented an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous investment, a huge risk for Boeing. It took up

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<v Speaker 1>nearly all the profits Boeing had made since World War

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<v Speaker 1>Two had ended. And making the matter more fraught was

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<v Speaker 1>that the havaland comment the British made commercial jet that

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<v Speaker 1>had inspired Boeing president William Allen to take this big

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<v Speaker 1>risk in the first place, well, it ended up having

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<v Speaker 1>some catastrophic problems of its own, and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>those problems became evident, Boeing had already committed to building

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial jet, so within the first year of operation

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the comment started to have some issues. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the first accident only caused a couple of minor injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>and in that incident, the Commet the airplane failed to

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<v Speaker 1>become airborne at the end of a runway, so it

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<v Speaker 1>ran the whole length of the runway, could not take

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<v Speaker 1>off and it ended up crossing into really rough ground.

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<v Speaker 1>But people got bumped up, but that was the worst

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<v Speaker 1>of it. However, a similar accident in nineteen fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>was much more serious. Again, a Comet failed to take

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<v Speaker 1>off from a runway, this time in Pakistan, and it

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<v Speaker 1>collided with an embankment at the end of the runway.

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<v Speaker 1>All five members of the crew died and six passengers

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<v Speaker 1>did as well. It was the first commercial jet accident

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<v Speaker 1>that had fatalities UH and obviously this was a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in nineteen fifty four, on two separate occasions, Commet

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft broke apart in midflight. The Commet fleet was grounded.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result, the aircraft lost its certificate of airworthiness

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<v Speaker 1>and a full inquiry was made and an investigation to

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<v Speaker 1>find out what exactly was happening. The investigation actually found

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<v Speaker 1>that the aircraft's frame was suffering fatigue and that led

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<v Speaker 1>to structural failures, particularly around the windows. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>the the pressurized cabins. You know that air pressure inside

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<v Speaker 1>the plane is much greater than the air pressure outside

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<v Speaker 1>in high altitudes, and so you have this force pushing

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<v Speaker 1>outward on the interior of the plane, and that push,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly at the windows, was what was causing fatigue on

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<v Speaker 1>the airframe. And thus you had structural failures in flight

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of these comet flights, and that caused

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<v Speaker 1>in flight accidents, essentially the planes which just completely break

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<v Speaker 1>apart with all people aboard lost as a result. Now

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<v Speaker 1>all of this was going on, as I said, as

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing had already committed to creating its own commercial jet aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the big challenges Boeing faced was creating

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<v Speaker 1>an aircraft that was demonstrably safe to travel in. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a second challenge was to convince the general public

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<v Speaker 1>that this was the case. And travelers were understandably concerned

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<v Speaker 1>after the high profile accidents involving the world's first commercial jets.

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<v Speaker 1>So Boeing produced a film titled This is Such a

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<v Speaker 1>Charming Name, Operation Guillotine. It was a a film that

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to counteract this public reservation of flying aboard

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<v Speaker 1>a commercial jet. And in the film, Boeing had test

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<v Speaker 1>footage where they had aircraft chambers that were pressurized. This

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<v Speaker 1>was inside a controlled environment, so this wasn't like flying

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<v Speaker 1>in the you know, over the United States or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the first demonstration they showed a pressurized airplane

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<v Speaker 1>fuselage like a regular propeller airplane type fuselage, and the

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<v Speaker 1>fuselage gets pierced by two metal blades. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a scenario where a propeller failure has happened and

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<v Speaker 1>part of a propeller breaks off and breaks into the

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<v Speaker 1>fuselage of a plane and that caused rapid depressurization and

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<v Speaker 1>the fuselage broke apart in that test. But then Bowing

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<v Speaker 1>showed a similar test with the fuselage of their seven

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven and they had five blades pierced this structure,

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<v Speaker 1>not just two. But in their test footage they show

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bowing fusel lodge can hold together even with

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<v Speaker 1>this this breach, and some air was escaping obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>there was, you know, now a hole in the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you can just not have air leak

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<v Speaker 1>out if you have a differential in pressure on one

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<v Speaker 1>side and versus the other, but it did show that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bowing design was far more resilient to damage that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to hold together even in a catastrophic event

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<v Speaker 1>like that than the traditional aircraft, which is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>way to build passenger confidence, to be sure, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the things they tried. The seven oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven was meant to be a mid to low range

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<v Speaker 1>commercial jet, and I mentioned in the previous episode that

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<v Speaker 1>PanAm had put in an order for twenty seven oh seven's,

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<v Speaker 1>but PanAm also hedged its bets. It wasn't going all

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<v Speaker 1>in on Boeing. It also put in an order for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five d C eights from boeing competitor Douglas. Boeing

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<v Speaker 1>was able to manufacture the seven oh seven faster than

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas could build the d C eights, and Bowing would

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<v Speaker 1>also customize the aircraft itself. They would have different load

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<v Speaker 1>outs and different variants of the seven oh seven, And

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<v Speaker 1>because of those customizations, there's not really one set of

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<v Speaker 1>measurements I can give you for a seven oh seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The same is true for all the different seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>series aircraft that Boeing would produce. There are different variations

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<v Speaker 1>of those and they all have different stats. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>how the first seven oh seven stacked up. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred forty five ft one inch long, that's about

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<v Speaker 1>forty four point two meters, and had a wingspan of

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thirty feet ten inches or thirty nine point

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<v Speaker 1>nine ms. The fuselage, so you know, like the body

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<v Speaker 1>of the aircraft had a width of twelve feet four

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<v Speaker 1>inches or three point eight meters. And while it was

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<v Speaker 1>meant as a mid range aircraft, its first commercial flight

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<v Speaker 1>was actually between New York City and Paris, France, though

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<v Speaker 1>it did stop once in Newfoundland to refuel. The seven

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven could travel faster and hold more passengers than

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<v Speaker 1>the Comet could, and there were several variations of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the seven O seven one, the seven O

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<v Speaker 1>seven one twenty B, the seven oh seven to twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>the seven oh seven three twenty, the seven oh seven

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<v Speaker 1>four twenty, and then there was the seven twenty and

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<v Speaker 1>the seven twenty B variants. So those two seven twenties

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<v Speaker 1>you might wonder what's up with those because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>follow that seven oh seven pattern. These were meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be short to medium range jets, and they were also

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<v Speaker 1>meant to service airports that had shorter runways that couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>accommodate the larger versions of the seven O seven, so

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<v Speaker 1>these were slightly smaller versions of those those commercial jets. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>differences between some of these variants could sometimes be tricky

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<v Speaker 1>to spot. Some of them were essentially the same design

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<v Speaker 1>but had different engines, so unless you were really really

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<v Speaker 1>observant and had an up close and personal look at

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<v Speaker 1>the interior of some of the workings of the jets,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't be able to necessarily tell on site the

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<v Speaker 1>difference without seeing a designation. Now, Boeing would manufacture more

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<v Speaker 1>than one thousand of the seven oh seven aircraft across

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<v Speaker 1>US all families over the decades, and the seven oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven would be in continuous production from nineteen fifty four

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen seventy seven. It helped establish commercial jet travel

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<v Speaker 1>across the world, not just for Boeing but for all companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and before long more people were traveling by air than

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<v Speaker 1>by sea, which was a first because while air travel

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<v Speaker 1>had been established for several decades, it was incredibly expensive

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very slow if you're using a propeller aircraft, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it there was this perception of real danger, so

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people preferred to travel by boat rather

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<v Speaker 1>than by airplane, but jets were a different story. It

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<v Speaker 1>also established something else. The seven O seven had exit

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<v Speaker 1>doors on the front left and rear left side of

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<v Speaker 1>the plane, so the four and the aft of the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>This would become a standardized configuration for Boeing's commercial jets

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<v Speaker 1>and ultimately would mean that other manufacturers would have to

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<v Speaker 1>follow suit because airports would accommodate this particular configuration with

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<v Speaker 1>the design of their jetway. So if you've flown into

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<v Speaker 1>a major airport and you notice that all the jets

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<v Speaker 1>are pulling up to their jet ways the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because the Boeing kind of established this, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it sort of became the standard. While Boeing was hard

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<v Speaker 1>at work on the seven oh seven, the company's aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>also made history in another way. On September one, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty three, a Boeing B forty seven Strato jet refueled

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<v Speaker 1>another B forty seven in midflight. It was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time a jet was being used as a tanker. The

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<v Speaker 1>arrangement relied upon what is called a probe and drogue

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<v Speaker 1>refueling system, so there are two main aerial refueling methods,

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<v Speaker 1>and by that I mean two main methods of refueling

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<v Speaker 1>a plane in air, not a way of refueling a mermaid.

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<v Speaker 1>One is to use a rigid boom extension that connects

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<v Speaker 1>two aircraft together in midflight for the purposes of fuel transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>It allows for a very high speed fuel transfer because

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<v Speaker 1>you're using a rigid boom. Um when you use something

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<v Speaker 1>that has flexibility to it, it actually slows down the

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<v Speaker 1>transfer of fuel a little bit. However, that system requires

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<v Speaker 1>both aircraft to fly pretty close to each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>if something should go wrong, the boom, because it's solid,

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<v Speaker 1>could cause serious damage to one or both aircraft, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's riskier. The probe and drogue method is slightly more safe.

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<v Speaker 1>The aircraft in need of refueling flies ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>tanker aircraft, and the refueling plane extends a hose that

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<v Speaker 1>is otherwise retracted so that it would be flush against

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<v Speaker 1>the aircraft. So it starts to let this hose out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hose trails behind the aircraft, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this hose is a basket, and the trailing

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft the one that has all the fuel aboard it

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to refuel The first plane has the probe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a uh, you know, a fuel

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<v Speaker 1>pump that you would use at a gas station. The

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<v Speaker 1>the pump part where you plug that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>slot that into your gas tank. That's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>the probe is. The pilot guides this probe into the

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<v Speaker 1>basket and that connects the probe to the hose and

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<v Speaker 1>refueling can begin. Afterward, the tanker pilot can retract the

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<v Speaker 1>probe from the drobe. The basket um and the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>of the newly refueled plane retracts the drogue, winds it

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<v Speaker 1>back up, and then you've got a newly refueled plane

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<v Speaker 1>in flight and never had the land to refuel. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say this, I find the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>pilots can fly so steady as to allow for in

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<v Speaker 1>flight refueling to be absolutely mind blowing. I'm amazed at

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<v Speaker 1>that level of precision and skill, and also the ingenuity

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<v Speaker 1>required to create the refueling system in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Human beings can be pretty astounding sometimes, And of course

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<v Speaker 1>I say that as a human being. I'm not some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of transdimensional alien make observations or anything. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>get back to Boeing and stop asking silly questions human

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<v Speaker 1>by nint. Boeing had made some huge accomplishments. The Dash

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<v Speaker 1>E D had already had its first flight at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>and Boeing was producing the k C one five strato

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<v Speaker 1>tanker aircraft, which was based off this DASH eight design,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was also at this point working on that

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<v Speaker 1>seven oh seven commercial jet, which again was also based

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<v Speaker 1>off the Dash A D. So you can think of

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<v Speaker 1>the DASH E D as the parent to both the

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<v Speaker 1>k C one thirty five strato tanker and the seven

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<v Speaker 1>oh seven. And those two aircraft were not identical. They

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<v Speaker 1>were actually very different from each other, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>both based off that same ancestor. Now Boeing was still

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<v Speaker 1>building military aircraft like the B forty seven, and it

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<v Speaker 1>had begun production on the B fifty two A, so

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<v Speaker 1>things were going pretty well for the company in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six. On September, William Boeing, who was the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the company but had you know, sold off all

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<v Speaker 1>of his entry in years before, passed away. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack aboard his yacht. I can only hope

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<v Speaker 1>that I go the same way. But it was three

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<v Speaker 1>days before his seventy five birthday, and I'd prefer to

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<v Speaker 1>last a little longer than that. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, um passing away on board your luxury yacht,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty baller way to go if you've gotta

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<v Speaker 1>if you gotta choose, I think on May fift nifty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>the US Air Force put in an order for three

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<v Speaker 1>of the new seven oh seven's, specifically the seven oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven one twenties, because you remember they're all those variations,

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<v Speaker 1>and these planes would receive a new designation, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be VC one thirty seven A. They were meant for

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<v Speaker 1>something very special. They'd be used for transportation for the

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<v Speaker 1>president and for other high ranking government officials. And when

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<v Speaker 1>the president steps aboard one of those planes, that plane

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<v Speaker 1>then becomes known as air Force one for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as the president is on it. And that's fun bit

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<v Speaker 1>of trivia. Air Force one does not refer to a

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<v Speaker 1>single goal plane. It's the designation that we give whatever

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<v Speaker 1>plane happens to be carrying the president at any given time.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's no one air Force one. It's whatever plane

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<v Speaker 1>the president happens to be on that is air Force one.

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<v Speaker 1>These planes were not the first to be used for

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<v Speaker 1>presidential transportation. I mean they were customized specifically for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't even the first for that. They were

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<v Speaker 1>the first from Boeing Um. They were also not the

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<v Speaker 1>first planes to be called air Force one when the

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<v Speaker 1>president was aboard, but it was the first time Boeing

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<v Speaker 1>would be the company providing planes for that purpose, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would continue to do so. Boeing has frequently provided

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<v Speaker 1>well sold planes to the United States government for use

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<v Speaker 1>as presidential transportation. On October t n eight, Boeing landed

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<v Speaker 1>a contract to assemble an intercontinental ballistic missile or ICBM,

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<v Speaker 1>called the minute Man. This was named after the members

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<v Speaker 1>of the American militia who were participated in the militia

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to the Revolutionary War. They were so called

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<v Speaker 1>the minutemen because they had to be ready to deploy

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<v Speaker 1>within a minute of getting a message. The i c

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<v Speaker 1>b M would rely upon solid rocket fuel, which would

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<v Speaker 1>also allow those missiles to stand ready for use indefinitely,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the liquid fueled rockets of that time,

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<v Speaker 1>which had to be fueled pretty much immediately before use

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<v Speaker 1>and thus required more time to actually deploy. Now, it

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<v Speaker 1>would come about that they would find workarounds for that

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<v Speaker 1>limitation for liquid fuel, but at the time that was

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<v Speaker 1>not really you know, those rear options. Now, while the

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<v Speaker 1>Minutemen I c b M had been proposed earlier, the

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<v Speaker 1>US military originally dismissed those proposals, and the idea was

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<v Speaker 1>that they had already started development on other missiles, so

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<v Speaker 1>they thought, well, it doesn't make sense for US to

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<v Speaker 1>devote even more resources to building different types of missiles.

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<v Speaker 1>Were already building missiles. But then there was a report

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<v Speaker 1>which was later found to be inaccurate that suggests said

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<v Speaker 1>that the Soviet Union was actually far ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and missile production and deployment, and that pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much scared the dickens of the U. S. Government, and

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<v Speaker 1>soon the minute Man was given the fast track for

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<v Speaker 1>production and Boeing was in business. In nine Boeing began

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<v Speaker 1>development on what would have been a predecessor to the

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<v Speaker 1>Space Shuttle. I think I referred to this a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the Space Race episodes I did a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called the X twenty and was later known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Dina sore d Y in a dash s

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<v Speaker 1>O A R. It was a space plane meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to return to Earth as a sort of

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<v Speaker 1>plane or glider like the Space Shuttle. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>different from the Gemini or Giminy if you prefer, and

0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Apollo designs. Those were ballistic spacecraft, which meant they would

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<v Speaker 1>hurtle to Earth like you know, uh, just a cannonball,

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<v Speaker 1>and then deploy a parachute to slow them down, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as angle themselves properly so that you know, their

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<v Speaker 1>heat field was at the right angle, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they would land in the water. From nineteen fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>to the early nineteen sixties, Boeing would work on the

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaur design, and hundreds of millions of dollars were dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to this development from the U. S government, But ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>the US government decided that the ballistic approach, which was

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<v Speaker 1>much less expensive and technically less complicated, would get priority,

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<v Speaker 1>so the project was canned in nineteen sixty three. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a shame too, because it was actually a pretty cool design.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about a bit more after the break, but

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<v Speaker 1>first let's go and thank our sponsor. The dinosaur looked

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn cool in a chunky way. It measured thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half feet or ten point eight meters

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<v Speaker 1>long and had a delta wingspan of nearly twenty one ft.

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing had built a mocked up model of it and

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<v Speaker 1>was working on building out a prototo hype when the

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<v Speaker 1>project got jumped. The official decision was that the spacecraft

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<v Speaker 1>would have no military applications, so it would be useless

0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.760
<v Speaker 1>as a military vehicle. You couldn't use it for you know, wartime.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't use it for reconnaissance, so there was no

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<v Speaker 1>practical use of it in that sense. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>considered to be too expensive to be of any practical

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<v Speaker 1>use as a research and science vehicle, So there was

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<v Speaker 1>no practical scientific application. And so the dinosaur went the

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<v Speaker 1>way of the dinosaurs. And yes, I was waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>make that joke for ages. I couldn't wait for the

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<v Speaker 1>break to be over. In the spring of nineteen sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing acquired the Vital Aircraft Corporation and it formed a

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<v Speaker 1>new division within Boeing. Vital was a play on the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase vertical takeoff and landing, so it's this part of

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing's company that develops v t o L aircraft like

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<v Speaker 1>helicopters and related vehicles. Um they actually would be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in developing lots of helicopters. They don't talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them in this episode. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>thing things that I'm having to skip over quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But they had a hand in designing several helicopters, both

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<v Speaker 1>for the military and for civilian use. In late nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one, Bowing would land a contract to produce the

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<v Speaker 1>first stage booster for the Saturn five, which would be

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<v Speaker 1>used in the Apollo program. That's pretty darn cool, And

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<v Speaker 1>the following year Boeing would test its first hydrofoil vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>the high Point. So what's a hydrofoil. Well, as the

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<v Speaker 1>name suggests, it has to do with water, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hydro water, and a foil is a surface that uh

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<v Speaker 1>provides lift. So a hydrofoil is a surface that, when

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<v Speaker 1>it moves in water, acts as a lifting surface. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like the wings on an airplane, except,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, an airplane moves through the air, hydrofoil moves

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<v Speaker 1>through the water, and of course water and air both

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<v Speaker 1>obey fluid dynamics. So if you've ever seen a boat

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<v Speaker 1>that travels really fast and it's on top of skis

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<v Speaker 1>that are on these long struts, that's a hydrofoil, and

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<v Speaker 1>Bowing would go on to produce hydro of foil vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>for the Navy as well as for other uses. And

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<v Speaker 1>hydrofoil boats can travel pretty darn fast, and it's largely

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<v Speaker 1>because they have decreased drag. There's reduced surface area making

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<v Speaker 1>contact with the water, so they can go much faster

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<v Speaker 1>than boats that have their full surface or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the full lower surface in contact with the water. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two, Boeing began producing seven twenty seven aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess now it's a good time to just

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<v Speaker 1>do a full run down on the seven hundred family

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<v Speaker 1>of commercial jets and get a general timeline for each

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<v Speaker 1>and describe how they are different. I'd like to get

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<v Speaker 1>them all all the way collectively, though obviously obviously we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to come back for the seven thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>Max designed to close out this episode. But yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's do all the seven hundreds, because if I just

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<v Speaker 1>keep on going through the timeline, it's just gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>tedious anyway. So it all started with the seven oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven that got things moving, and then next was the

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<v Speaker 1>seven twenty that was the variation on the seven oh

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<v Speaker 1>seven that was designed for the shorter flights and smaller airports,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after that came the seven twenty seven. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the lay out, it could hold between a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred forty nine to eighty nine passengers max. And it

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<v Speaker 1>had three engines. It had an engine under each wing,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the third engine was located at the tail

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<v Speaker 1>of the aircraft. It was built into the tail of

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<v Speaker 1>the fuselage, and it was also intended for short to

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<v Speaker 1>medium routes. The original seven thirty seven would follow in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen sixties, and the original seven thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>had twin engines, was also meant for short to medium

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<v Speaker 1>length trips, and Boeing has updated this particular line many

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<v Speaker 1>many times. There are several variations of the seven thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven seven thirty seven seven thirty seven Classic, seven thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven NG, seven thirty seven Crystal seven thirty seven Low Calorie.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be making some of these up, though, but

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<v Speaker 1>there really is a seven thirty seven n G that

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<v Speaker 1>stands for next Generation, just like Star Trek and uh

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<v Speaker 1>that one was a little bit more narrow than the

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<v Speaker 1>original seven thirty seven. And of course there's the seven

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven MAX that here about in the News Currently,

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<v Speaker 1>there are several variants of these jets, even within these families,

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<v Speaker 1>and each variant has slightly different stats and passenger layouts,

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<v Speaker 1>and the variety means it's really hard to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty seven's as a collective because there's so much

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<v Speaker 1>variation between them. There are versions that had a maximum

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<v Speaker 1>capacity of eighty five passengers and there are versions that

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<v Speaker 1>could carry up to two fifteen passengers. That's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>big difference there. Seven seven would go on to be

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing's biggest commercial success. It is the highest selling commercial

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<v Speaker 1>jet liner model of all time, though again there are

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of variations, and that consideration has taken all

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<v Speaker 1>of them and putting them in a big collective group.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been in continuous production since their introduction in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, so a very big working horse for Boeing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bowing seven forty seven was the very first aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>to receive the descriptor of eumbo jet, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>a beast of an aircraft. Now. I have never flown

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<v Speaker 1>on a seven forty seven, but I have toured a

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<v Speaker 1>grounded seven forty seven. They have one at Delta's Air

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<v Speaker 1>Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, and the seven forty seven is

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<v Speaker 1>a wide body airplane. If you were to look at

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<v Speaker 1>one in profile, you notice that at the front end

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<v Speaker 1>of the airplane has a hump on the top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because the forward section of the plane has

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<v Speaker 1>a second floor. It's a double decker. UH. Passenger cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually have a staircase inside the cabin that

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<v Speaker 1>leads up to the second floor. Uh. They can get

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<v Speaker 1>real swanky up there. The at least the model that

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<v Speaker 1>I went on, they had the the first class set

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<v Speaker 1>up in the upper deck and it was pretty nifty.

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<v Speaker 1>So when this seven forty seven debuted in nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>it was known as the commercial jet with the largest

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<v Speaker 1>capacity for passengers, and it would actually hold on to

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<v Speaker 1>that title for nearly forty years. There's also several variations

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<v Speaker 1>of the seven forty seven, and the seven eight is

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<v Speaker 1>still in production today. The seven fifty seven is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a study in contrast to the seven forty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It first went into production in n one and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a narrow body plane, has a single aisle down the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger cabin. It's got two engines and Boeing generally intended

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<v Speaker 1>it to take the place of the older seven twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven's for those short to medium flight routes. It can

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<v Speaker 1>hold nearly three hundred passengers in at least some of

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<v Speaker 1>the configurations for the seven fifty seven, and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it Boeing's largest single aisle passenger jet. This one, however,

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer in production. Then you have the seven

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seven that's a mid to long range aircraft. It

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<v Speaker 1>has a wide body and has two jet engines, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are lots of variations of this one to that

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<v Speaker 1>allow for a maximum passenger capacity of up to three

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>hundred seventy five passengers, depending upon the variation. Obviously, not

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<v Speaker 1>all buildouts can hold that many. In fact, some of

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>them top out at closer to passengers, which is less

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.680
<v Speaker 1>than half of that other maximum. Like the seven fifty seven.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>The seven sixty seven went into production in one and

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>it shares many design components with the seven fifty seven,

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's so similar in operation that the f a

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>A said that pilots who had the proper type of

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>rating to fly a seven fifty seven could also fly

0:26:26.720 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a seven sixty seven because the differences, at least in

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>operation were so few and far between they were practically

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the same aircraft by operation, even though by actual specs

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>like by width and length and all that, they were

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.120
<v Speaker 1>very different. The seventy seven sixty seven was much wider

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>than the seven fifty seven. Boeing still makes the seven

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>sixty seven aircraft today, but most of those are not

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>being used as passenger jets are being used for other stuff.

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Then we have the Triple seven, the seven seventy seven.

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a wide body, long range aircraft, the first one

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to production in It is the largest twin jet commercial

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>aircraft in the world, and some variations of the seven

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven can hold nearly four hundred passengers. It's also

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>the first Boeing commercial aircraft to have computer mediated controls,

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>which is going to become part of our story towards

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of this episode two for the seven thirty

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 1>seven Max. The seven seventy seven became a big success

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>for Boeing, and airlines ordered enough of them to make

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the seven seventy seven the best selling wide body commercial

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>jet of all time. It beat out the record that

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>was previously held by the seven forty seven, and as

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>I record this, Boeing is working on the latest generation

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Triple seven family of aircraft with the seven

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>seventy seven X, which would start flying the skies in

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. One of those is the seven seventy seven

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>nine and it's a huge, huge plane. It can hold

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>up to four fourteen passengers. Big plane. And now we're

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 1>up to seven eighty seven a k a. The Dreamliner.

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.679
<v Speaker 1>It's an the wide body jet, though it's in the

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>mid size range, so it's not as big as the

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>seven seventy sevens, and it went into production in two

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>thousand nine. It's meant to replace the seven sixty seven.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>So Boeing's goal was to create a commercial jet that

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>could fill the same role as the seven sixty seven,

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>but have much better fuel efficiency. And they did this

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>with lots of different changes in design, including using mostly

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>composite materials for the aircraft, which helped cut down on

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the aircraft's weight, which therefore cuts down on the amount

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of fuel it needs to stay in the air. It

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>can hold up to three five passengers, depending again upon

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the layout, and it also can travel on long distance routes.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh and then there is one other one I should

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>mention the seven seventeen. So why would I leave that

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>one last? Why would I work up from seven oh

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>seven all the way up to seven eighty seven, then

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>go back to seven seventeen. Well, it's because Bowing didn't

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>actually design the seven seventeen, the Boeing seven seventeen, at

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>least the commercial jet version of the seven seventeen. There

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>was a Boeing military aircraft that had a seven seventeen

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.959
<v Speaker 1>designation back in the nineteen fifties, but that's not what

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about here anyway. It wasn't a Bowing aircraft. Originally.

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>It used to have the name MD and it was

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>designed by Boeing's competitor McDonald Douglas in the mid nineties.

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But before the plane could go into production, something else

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>would happen. And I'll get back to that in a

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit, all right. So that's the family of Boeing

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 1>commercial jets, and honestly, each of those could merit their

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>own episode. There are lots of stories about each of them.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>There are stories about the different crazy configurations the airlines

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>would have for those aircraft, their stories about accidents with

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 1>those aircraft. Um, the seven forty seven has had a

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of accidents, not not to say that the seven

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>seven itself was at fault. There were plenty of accidents

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that were judged to be human error, not mechanical error.

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But there's you know, there's just so much to talk about,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and again we've got it in this series at some point,

0:29:56.880 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 1>so I'm just gonna calling all double here. Also, it's

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>good to remember a few general notes about these planes. First,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the number designation doesn't indicate size. This took me a

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>long time to figure out. When I was a kid,

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I just assumed that every number bigger was meant there's

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a bigger plane. So when I heard I

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was gonna fly on the seven sixties seven, I thought, Wow,

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be even bigger than the seven seven, And

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. Still getting over that. Also, another is

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>that the variations within a single family in the seven

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>series can be significant. It's not just about the seat layout.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>It's also about the aircraft's dimensions, which engines it has,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and other design elements. And these differences, at least according

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to Boeing, aren't so great as to necessitate a totally

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>new designation. You wouldn't call it a different type of plane,

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>but it does mean that not all seven forty seven's

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are alike. For example, and there are a lot of

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>these Boeing aircraft out there in the wild. Boeing delivered

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>more than nine thousand seven thirty seven aircraft alone. That's

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>if you lump all the versions of the seven thirty

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>seven together. If you do that, then it's delivered more

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>than nine thousand of them to customers. That's nearly half

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>of all the commercial aircraft that Boeing has delivered since

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it started producing the seven family. So it's pretty impressive

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that the seven thirty seven takes up almost of all

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 1>the planes Boeing has ever sold, at least in the

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>commercial jet world. Okay, so back to the timeline and

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>bowing in the nineteen sixties. Gotta finish this episode out

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.960
<v Speaker 1>before the number seven ceases to mean anything to me anymore.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Boeing would continue to play a crucial role in the

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>space race, landing the contract with NASA to build the

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Lunar Orbiter spacecraft. Now, these were unmanned spacecraft that would

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>fly around the Moon and map out sites of the

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Moon that could potentially be used by the Apollo program

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>for landing sites. Boeing would work with other companies to

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>produce the spacecraft, and the mission was a success. And

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>was very important for the planning of the Apollo missions.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>In nineteen sixty six, Boeing celebrated its fiftieth anniversary, and

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it did so by flying a replica of the old

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>B and W biplane that had started it all so

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>many years before. On a less celebratory note, Boeing would

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>also land a contract and design a short Range Attack

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 1>missile or SRAM s RAM. This was a nuclear air

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>to surface missile, so this was meant to be fired

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>by bombers that would penetrate enemy airspace, presumably after the

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 1>surface to air missile capabilities of the enemy had been

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>knocked out and by enemy everyone was essentially thinking the

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Soviet Union. This was still in the Cold War, so

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Boeing would first produce the missiles in nineteen seventy two

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and would continue to do so, upgrading the line, making

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>changes to it, but continuate producing these missiles until which

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>was when the program was discontinued. In nineteen sixty nine,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Boeing began production on the Lunar Rover vehicle, that's the

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>moon car that astronauts would us to make some wicked

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>donuts on the Moon. I'm told they also used to

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>do science and stuff up there too. Not everything went

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>without a hitch, however, Boeing had landed a contract to

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>develop a supersonic transport or s ST vehicle. This would

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>be a passenger aircraft capable of breaking the sound barrier.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>In the nineteen sixties, Boeing landed a contract to develop

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>such an aircraft, and it would have been the first

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of a new family of aircraft in Boeing. It had

0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the designation to seven oh seven, but the government scrapped

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the project in nineteen seventy one and Boeing canceled the

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>development on the project. So what happened, Well, if you

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to my episode about the Concorde, you know that

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>supersonic travel is challenging, not just from a technical standpoint,

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 1>but also an economical one. The expense of developing and

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>building the aircraft, of training crews and pilots of how

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to fly them, and maintenance crews about how to maintain them,

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 1>also just paying to fuel the darned things. All that

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>ends up being a considerable amount of money. On top

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>of that, breaking the sound barrier means you produce more

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>sonic booms than I do after a dinner at Taco Bell.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>So while Boeing was tackling the challenge with zeal The

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>general opinion in the industry was that it wasn't a

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>good idea to pursue, and the general public was concerned

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>about the environmental impact that such aircraft would have. So

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>at uh, it never got off the ground. Now, when

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>we come back, I'll quickly rush through the timeline and

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk about the seven thirty seven Max. But

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break. So while the SST

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>program went belly up, Boeing was continuing to not just

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>work on space, military and commercial air vehicles, but also

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to diversify. That involved creating alternate uses for Boeing owned land,

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>like turning some of it into farmland, for example, And

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>this way they could put the land to work rather

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>than just you know, have it be land. And it

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>also involved Boeing bidding for contracts to develop rapid rail

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>transit technology. So at this point, Bowing is building components

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>for spacecraft, for military aircraft, including helicopters, for commercial aircraft,

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>for hydrofoil vehicles, and rail transit systems. Oh And by

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen seventies it was also building wind turbines

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.479
<v Speaker 1>for electricity production. So it was really getting into lots

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. One of the spacecraft Bowing created was the

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Mariner ten, which was a satellite that did flybys of

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Venus and Mercury sending information back to us on Earth,

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty darn cool. And Boeing would contribute components

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Space Telescope Hubble as well. Would also continue

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>designing and building missiles for the military, like the a

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>l C m or air launched Cruise missile, which was

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>designed to fire from a Bowing B fifty two, originally

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>getting up to the nineteen eighties. Now Boeing would work

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>on components for the boosters used by the Space Shuttle.

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>It would also design and build major sections of the

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>International Space Station, would was an incredibly lucrative contract. A

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 1>division called Boeing Computer Services would produce software to be

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:09.719
<v Speaker 1>used on the International Space Station. The company produced the

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Chinook military helicopter as well at this time, and Boeing

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>was one of the companies working on the osprey, which

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft that has a

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>tilt rotor assembly. You've probably seen pictures of these, if

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.880
<v Speaker 1>not one in person. It kind of looks like a

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>helicopter and kind of looks like a propeller plane. And

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.520
<v Speaker 1>those tilt rotors actually can can angle to serve either

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as a helicopter or an airplane. So you can have

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.399
<v Speaker 1>it tilted so that they the propellers are facing up

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and then do a vertical takeoff, and then you can

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:46.839
<v Speaker 1>start to transition and tilt them in a more horizontal

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>wing position, and then with the propellers being ninety degrees

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>from that and turn it into essentially an airplane. I

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>have to do a full episode about the osprey at

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>some point because it's really an odd type of aircraft.

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's also incredibly expensive and there was a lot

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of controversy around it as well. But they're still ospray

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>aircraft in service today. That's more than thirty years after

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Bowing first started working on them. Set it's impressive. In

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen eighties, Boeing built an unmanned aerial vehicle

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 1>called the Condor. This is a bigin has a wingspan

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>measuring two hundred five feet or sixty two meters, and

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it has propellers for propulsion. It's not a jet drone,

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a propeller drone. It looks kind of like

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a very wide, like almost an unrealistically wide propeller plane.

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It has an effective ceiling altitude of around seventy thousand

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 1>feet or twenty one thousand meters, and it can fly

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>completely under computer control from takeoff to landing. Only two

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of them were ever built, and they were really meant

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>for Boeing to kind of research effective strategies for unmanned

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>aerial vehicles. In general, they weren't intended necessarily to be

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>production vehicles, and in fact, the military said there were

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>very few practical applications because they would be far too

0:38:03.480 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>vulnerable by to enemy attack if you were to try

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and use them as reconnaissance vehicles. For example, Boeing was

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.879
<v Speaker 1>involved in the design and production of the B two

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 1>stealth bomber, which was a top secret vehicle at the time.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about stealth technology and other episodes, so I'm

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>not going to go into detail here. It largely involves

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>creating surfaces with odd angles so the incoming radar waves

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>don't reflect back to the radar stations. But it gets

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a little more compleated than that. But I've talked about

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in previous episodes, Boeing and McDonald Douglas would get the

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 1>nod from NASA to lead R and D efforts into

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>the design of supersonic passenger aircraft, again, this time with

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>an eye to mitigate the challenges I mentioned earlier. This

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>is called the High Speed Civil Transport Project. And occasionally

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you'll hear about various studies and ways to try and

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 1>do things like reduce or eliminate the sonic boom as

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>much as possible, which is tricky to do. It's hard

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to fool physics. You ken in decrease its effect, it's

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 1>hard to get rid of it because air, you know,

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>nature still abhors a vacuum, so do I hate vacuuming.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>In December nine, Boeing merged with Rockwell Aerospace, and Rockwell

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>became Boeing North American and it operated as a subsidiary company.

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Also in August, Boeing would merge with its old competitor

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>McDonald Douglas. Harry Stone Cipher, who had been the CEO

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>of McDonald Douglas, would then come over to be the

0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Boeing president and the Boeing CEO and Chairman, Phil Condent

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>would remain at his role at the top. On September seven,

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 1>the f twenty two Raptor, which was based off an

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>experimental aircraft from a couple of years earlier, would make

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>its first flight. This is a high speed, stealth tactical

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>fighter and on that first flight it climbed to an

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 1>altitude of fifteen thousand feet in less than three minutes.

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Boeing was responsible for several parts of this aircraft, but

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it was working in a partner a ship with other companies,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>including Lockheed, on this particular project. In Boeing would change

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the name of the McDonald Douglas m d N that

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I mentioned earlier, and when was the plane that had

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<v Speaker 1>not yet gone into production when Boeing had merged with

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.239
<v Speaker 1>McDonald Douglas, and the new name was the seven seventeen,

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So now it's the Boeing seven seventeen. In ninety nine,

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Bowing landed a one point six billion dollar contract to

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<v Speaker 1>serve as the lead systems integrator for the National Missile

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Defense Program. And there's a ton of other odds and

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>ends we could cover, like the Joint helmet mounted Queuing

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>system or the Joint Direct Attack Munition or j DAM platform,

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>or the rock and Roll satellites that Bowing produced for

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 1>XM satellite radio or the space launch complex at Cape Canaveral,

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>not to mention the various missiles and bombs and aircraft

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that Boeing has worked on since two thousand for the

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>United States and other countries. But I'm running out of time,

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and we still need to talk about the seven thirty

0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 1>seven Max. Boeing announced this particular generation of its seven

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven back in two thousand eleven, and they're very

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 1>similar in many ways in capacity to early generations of

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the seven thirty seven, but in other ways they're very different.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>The seven thirty seven Max aircraft received certification in two

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand seventeen, staying the aircraft was suitable to enter into service.

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>But in October two thousand eighteen, a seven thirty seven

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Max eight operated by Lion air Jet UH crashed into

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia less than

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes after it had taken off, with all aboard lost.

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>The cause appeared to be a problem with the flight

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>control system. More on that in a moment. On March tenth,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen, and Ethiopian Airlines flight also a seven

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.880
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven Max eight crashed less than ten minutes after

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 1>it had taken off from Addis Ababa. There were no

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>survivors in that crash either. Investigations are ongoing as of

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>the recording of this podcast, but in any case, the

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>global fleet of seven thirty seven Max aircraft is currently

0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>grounded and may continue to be so for the rest

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of twenty nineteen, and Boeing has stated that it may

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>soon need to slow or even halt production on the aircraft.

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>So what actually happened, Well, it's premature to say everything,

0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but we have some ideas now. Boeing has maintained that

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the aircraft were designed properly and they were operating properly,

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but that cruise were not following the correct procedures as

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 1>indicated by the flight manual. Pilots have stated that they

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>were not adequately informed of a new type of software

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that was incorporated into the flight control system that may

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>have played a part in these accidents. So what's going on? Well, first,

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it's helpful to know that the seven thirty seven Max

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is different from earlier seven thirty seven aircraft in its construction.

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>The engines are different from earlier seven thirty seven aircraft,

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>and they are placed further forward and higher up on

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the fuselage. And that changes the balance of the aircraft.

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>It actually creates a tendency for the seven thirty seven's

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>nose to start pointing upwards, starts to pitch up when

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it's traveling at lower speeds, and this in turn can

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.919
<v Speaker 1>lead to engines stalling out. They don't get enough air

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in them, and then they stall, and then you're in

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a real dangerous situation. And this is where the software

0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>comes in. The software is called the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>System or m CASTS, and the software detects when the

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>aircraft's nose is pointed upward at lower speeds. It has

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>sensors to detect the angle of attack, and if the

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>angle of attack is too great, it sends a command

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 1>to the horizontal stabilizers. They're at the tail of the plane.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.479
<v Speaker 1>The stabilizers tilt so that the aircraft will level out,

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>which supplies the air the engine's need for continuous operation

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>without stalling. So that's important. So in the case where

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>this aircraft is slowing down and it's just naturally the

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:08.240
<v Speaker 1>noses creeping up, this computer system is supposed to account

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>for that. In the Lion air crash, here's what seems

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to have happened the m casts incorrectly detected that the

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.080
<v Speaker 1>nose of the aircraft was pointed too far upward and

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the engines would be in dature of stalling, so it's

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>sent the command to the horizontal stabilizers, which tilted and

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>that caused the aircraft's nose to pitch downward, sending the

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>aircraft into a dive, and the crew were unable to

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 1>stop this malfunction or correct for it, and the plane crashed.

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>The same thing may have happened with the Ethiopian Airlines crash,

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>but that investigation is ongoing as of the recording of

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>this show. Now, I have seen several aviation industry experts

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>say that a big part of the issue is that

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>the seven seven Max is different enough from earlier seven

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>thirty seven models like the seven thirty seven in g

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that it should necessitate an entirely new, distinct and thorough

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 1>highlot training program, and that a lot of airlines had

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>more casual training programs, like the kind you could complete

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 1>in an hour on a tablet, so that could be

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>a problem that might require much more extensive training for

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.880
<v Speaker 1>pilots so they can familiarize themselves with the changes in

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the seven thirty seven max before piloting the newer aircraft.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>In addition, newspapers like The New York Times have investigated

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 1>the f a A and have come to the conclusion

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>that that agency is not well enough equipped to perform

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>adequate testing and certification procedures on aircraft in general, which

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>allows the possibility of malfunctions and mistakes to make their

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 1>way through the certification process because there's just not enough

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:50.359
<v Speaker 1>funding and expertise to detect all of these, and that

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:54.200
<v Speaker 1>means that you could have potentially tragic consequences. Boeing Bird's

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.240
<v Speaker 1>part began working on a software patch to address problems

0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>with the m casts pretty much immediately, and this was

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>made more difficult, the company said, because it's simulators were

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.720
<v Speaker 1>unable to replicate the problems that the actual production aircraft

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>were experiencing. But the updated software, which puts measures into

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>place to prevent the m CAST system from activating prematurely,

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 1>has been completed and as I record this episode, it's

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>essentially awaiting f a A certification for distribution. So in

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.320
<v Speaker 1>other words, the company says that they found a fix

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>for the issue and it just has to make sure

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that the certification um agrees and that they can then

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 1>distribute it to all the aircraft. As I record this,

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the future of the seven seven Max is in doubt.

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>There's the possibility that Boeing might have to scrap production

0:46:46.120 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 1>on that jet entirely. There are hundreds of outstanding orders

0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that could be canceled. It's possible that airlines would rather

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:56.040
<v Speaker 1>look at alternatives than stick with the seven thirty seven Max,

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>even with software updates and training programs to help fix

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>these previous problem because now the seven thirty seven Max

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.879
<v Speaker 1>has a very negative association with it, and so it's

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hard to get away from that. It's hard to tell

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>passengers no, no, everything's fine now if, especially with the

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:16.399
<v Speaker 1>amount of reporting then has happened on this issue, uh,

0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's reasonable to say that a lot of

0:47:19.600 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>people would have reservations about getting on that type of plane,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>even if they were told that things have been worked

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 1>out since the accidents. It's an ugly thing to see

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.439
<v Speaker 1>it happened. I mean, obviously it's a tragedy and it's

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 1>terrible that people lost their lives in this. Uh. It's

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>also frustrating to see the blame game going around. I

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>don't honestly know ultimately who is to blame. Boeing says

0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that they felt the Flying Manual had all the information

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:52.319
<v Speaker 1>needed to deal with these kind of situations. Pilots say

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even really told about the m casts UH

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 1>software on the flying control system. I don't know who

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to believe, UH. I just know it is a tragedy

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 1>and that things have to be fixed for people to

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>have at least the confidence that these aircraft can go

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:13.800
<v Speaker 1>back into service safely. And that concludes our little series

0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:16.240
<v Speaker 1>on Boeing. As I said, I skipped over a ton

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>of stuff in this episode, and I apologize for that.

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:21.640
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0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.839
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0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.799
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