1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,355 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Is 2 00:00:22,595 --> 00:00:25,635 Speaker 1: Jack Smith trying to get the judge in the election 3 00:00:25,915 --> 00:00:30,915 Speaker 1: subversion trial to detain Trump or find Trump, or start 4 00:00:30,955 --> 00:00:35,115 Speaker 1: Trump's trial early, or issue a gag order against Trump. 5 00:00:36,315 --> 00:00:39,195 Speaker 1: Don't be distracted, keep your third eye clear. It's not 6 00:00:39,355 --> 00:00:42,715 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden indicted. It's not Mike Hawkabe threatening bullets instead 7 00:00:42,715 --> 00:00:46,155 Speaker 1: of ballots. It's not even Ejen Carroll extending her winning 8 00:00:46,195 --> 00:00:50,315 Speaker 1: streak versus Trump to four and zero. Those are all 9 00:00:50,395 --> 00:00:52,955 Speaker 1: fun in their way, but the headline at the moment 10 00:00:53,035 --> 00:00:57,235 Speaker 1: is a behind the scenes courtroom drama under seal, but 11 00:00:57,355 --> 00:01:00,355 Speaker 1: which seems to be based on the half second of 12 00:01:00,435 --> 00:01:04,155 Speaker 1: light shining on it, the way a midnight thunderstorm illuminates 13 00:01:04,195 --> 00:01:07,675 Speaker 1: everything and then justice quickly plunges it all back into darkness, 14 00:01:07,795 --> 00:01:11,875 Speaker 1: which seems to be an attempt by Smith to get 15 00:01:11,995 --> 00:01:16,035 Speaker 1: Judge Tanya Chutkin to punish Donald Trump for shooting off 16 00:01:16,115 --> 00:01:21,395 Speaker 1: his big bazoo in speeches and on social media, and 17 00:01:21,475 --> 00:01:24,995 Speaker 1: that's all we know about it. Smith has made a 18 00:01:25,115 --> 00:01:28,795 Speaker 1: filing with Judge Chutkin's court in which he alleges Trump 19 00:01:28,835 --> 00:01:33,595 Speaker 1: has quote made daily extra judicial statements that threaten to 20 00:01:33,635 --> 00:01:38,515 Speaker 1: prejudice the jury pool. That's almost literally it. The whole 21 00:01:38,595 --> 00:01:41,155 Speaker 1: motion is just three hundred and forty five words, and 22 00:01:41,195 --> 00:01:44,595 Speaker 1: that includes the underlined title at the top and Jack 23 00:01:44,635 --> 00:01:48,835 Speaker 1: Smith's name and job description at the bottom. It's three 24 00:01:48,915 --> 00:01:51,755 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty six words. If you include the names 25 00:01:51,795 --> 00:01:55,355 Speaker 1: of his aides, Thomas Wyndham and Molly Gaston, and the 26 00:01:55,395 --> 00:02:00,555 Speaker 1: address of their office. That's it. Whatever this is about. 27 00:02:01,115 --> 00:02:05,235 Speaker 1: Smith's office filed opposition to a motion to vacate by 28 00:02:05,275 --> 00:02:09,075 Speaker 1: Trump's lawyers, and Trump's lawyers demanded three weeks before the 29 00:02:09,115 --> 00:02:12,875 Speaker 1: court ruled, and fourteen days before they Trump's lawyers had 30 00:02:12,915 --> 00:02:17,435 Speaker 1: to respond to anything under seal, and Smith testily answers quote. 31 00:02:17,755 --> 00:02:20,675 Speaker 1: Such a requirement would grind litigation in this case to 32 00:02:20,755 --> 00:02:24,795 Speaker 1: a halt, which is particularly infeasible given the pressing matters 33 00:02:24,835 --> 00:02:31,915 Speaker 1: before the court, including the defendant's daily extrajudicial statements that 34 00:02:32,115 --> 00:02:36,035 Speaker 1: threaten to prejudice the jury pool in this case, as 35 00:02:36,275 --> 00:02:41,315 Speaker 1: described in the government's motion ce ECF number four to 36 00:02:41,475 --> 00:02:47,915 Speaker 1: seven Dash three unquote. ECF number four seven Dash three 37 00:02:47,955 --> 00:02:53,995 Speaker 1: is sealed. We cannot see it yet, and so it 38 00:02:54,075 --> 00:02:57,235 Speaker 1: is left to the imagination. And the easy part is 39 00:02:57,275 --> 00:03:02,675 Speaker 1: to imagine which daily extra judicial statements Smith is reminding 40 00:03:02,755 --> 00:03:07,035 Speaker 1: Judge Chutkin about as they began in the overnight hours 41 00:03:07,075 --> 00:03:10,835 Speaker 1: of Sunday and Monday, August fourteenth, not seventy two hours 42 00:03:10,875 --> 00:03:14,795 Speaker 1: after Judge Chucken warned Trump's lawyers quote, I caution you 43 00:03:14,875 --> 00:03:18,355 Speaker 1: and your client to take special care in your public 44 00:03:18,395 --> 00:03:22,635 Speaker 1: statements about this case. And Trump said he understood. And 45 00:03:22,875 --> 00:03:26,195 Speaker 1: at twelve thirty three Eastern daylight time, Trump stopped understanding 46 00:03:26,435 --> 00:03:30,675 Speaker 1: and posted quote, how dare low life prosecutor deranged Jack 47 00:03:30,715 --> 00:03:34,195 Speaker 1: Smith break into my former Twitter account without informing me 48 00:03:34,315 --> 00:03:38,115 Speaker 1: and indeed trying to completely hide this atrocity from me unquote, 49 00:03:39,435 --> 00:03:44,595 Speaker 1: because the heavens did not immediately strike somebody dead or 50 00:03:44,675 --> 00:03:47,275 Speaker 1: whatever it is Trump expects will happen when he issues 51 00:03:47,315 --> 00:03:51,835 Speaker 1: his bleatings, which would embarrass a fourth grade bully. Just 52 00:03:51,995 --> 00:03:55,395 Speaker 1: forty one minutes later, Trump attacked the bench, referring to 53 00:03:55,435 --> 00:04:00,035 Speaker 1: a quote by highly partisan Judge Tanya Chutkin, she obviously 54 00:04:00,075 --> 00:04:05,355 Speaker 1: wants me behind bars unquote. Trump starts it as the 55 00:04:05,395 --> 00:04:09,835 Speaker 1: midnight suet, That is, his skin liquefied itself and dripped 56 00:04:09,875 --> 00:04:13,595 Speaker 1: onto the keypad of his phone, and he basically has 57 00:04:13,635 --> 00:04:18,795 Speaker 1: not stopped, since you or I obviously would have jailed 58 00:04:18,835 --> 00:04:21,315 Speaker 1: him by now. Because these are the kinds of threats 59 00:04:21,315 --> 00:04:23,875 Speaker 1: that perhaps even hard asses like Jack Smith and Tanya 60 00:04:23,915 --> 00:04:28,435 Speaker 1: Trutkin and I say that fan boyishly do not fully appreciate. 61 00:04:29,075 --> 00:04:31,235 Speaker 1: They are not just insults, and they are not just 62 00:04:31,315 --> 00:04:34,595 Speaker 1: designed too to again quote Smith's one second glimpse of 63 00:04:34,595 --> 00:04:37,955 Speaker 1: his sealed motion, prejudice the jury pool. In this case, 64 00:04:38,235 --> 00:04:42,115 Speaker 1: they are also standard Trump stochastic calls to terrorism by 65 00:04:42,195 --> 00:04:45,475 Speaker 1: others acting on his behalf but giving him what the 66 00:04:45,515 --> 00:04:50,275 Speaker 1: CIA at its worst used to call plausible deniability. These 67 00:04:50,315 --> 00:04:54,675 Speaker 1: are not too complexly coded messages to Trump's stormtroopers to 68 00:04:54,715 --> 00:04:57,795 Speaker 1: go attack Jack Smith, or attack Tanya Tchutkin, or attack 69 00:04:57,835 --> 00:05:01,275 Speaker 1: any Democrat, or attack any Trump critic. They are threats, 70 00:05:01,915 --> 00:05:05,875 Speaker 1: and the judge should treat them as such. So is 71 00:05:05,915 --> 00:05:09,355 Speaker 1: that what she's considering doing is that what Jack Smith 72 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:13,675 Speaker 1: has asked her to do under seal. Treat him as 73 00:05:13,675 --> 00:05:17,515 Speaker 1: the lethal threats he represents, and revoke his bail, slam 74 00:05:17,555 --> 00:05:21,275 Speaker 1: his ass in jail where it belongs, the bail the 75 00:05:21,355 --> 00:05:24,435 Speaker 1: terms of which he is obviously violated, or find him 76 00:05:25,035 --> 00:05:29,275 Speaker 1: or institute a full gag order on him, or is 77 00:05:29,315 --> 00:05:33,035 Speaker 1: it that other option. The day Chutchkin instructed Trump's latest 78 00:05:33,075 --> 00:05:36,315 Speaker 1: collection of unqualified ambulance chasers to shut the f up, 79 00:05:36,715 --> 00:05:40,115 Speaker 1: she promised a novel response if he did not, quoting 80 00:05:40,155 --> 00:05:43,435 Speaker 1: her again from August eleventh. The more a party makes 81 00:05:43,475 --> 00:05:47,555 Speaker 1: inflammatory statements about this case which could taint the jury pool, 82 00:05:48,075 --> 00:05:50,675 Speaker 1: the greater the urgency will be that we proceed to 83 00:05:50,715 --> 00:05:55,115 Speaker 1: trial quickly. There's the same reference the jury pool and 84 00:05:55,195 --> 00:05:59,715 Speaker 1: tainting it. Whatever is going on, we will know something 85 00:05:59,795 --> 00:06:03,555 Speaker 1: next week. I think CNN is reporting Chutkin has ordered 86 00:06:03,595 --> 00:06:06,675 Speaker 1: both sides to while additional briefs on whether or not 87 00:06:06,715 --> 00:06:10,155 Speaker 1: the original Smith brief, which presumably is about or at 88 00:06:10,195 --> 00:06:14,755 Speaker 1: least touches on the defendant's daily extra judicial statements, should 89 00:06:14,795 --> 00:06:17,915 Speaker 1: be posted on the public record. Trump's team is to 90 00:06:17,995 --> 00:06:21,275 Speaker 1: answer that question by Monday, and the Special Council must 91 00:06:21,275 --> 00:06:26,835 Speaker 1: answer by next Wednesday. Something else about Jack Smith and 92 00:06:26,995 --> 00:06:30,795 Speaker 1: Trump that has gotten steamrollered by the Atlanta deliberations and 93 00:06:30,835 --> 00:06:34,355 Speaker 1: the other headlines and everything else, and all it is 94 00:06:34,355 --> 00:06:37,035 Speaker 1: is evidence that the Jack Smith grand jury is still 95 00:06:37,595 --> 00:06:42,995 Speaker 1: hearing evidence against Trump and his co conspirators, and still 96 00:06:43,035 --> 00:06:47,115 Speaker 1: hearing evidence about how he raised all that the election 97 00:06:47,355 --> 00:06:51,035 Speaker 1: was stolen money, and how much fraud he committed while 98 00:06:51,115 --> 00:06:53,035 Speaker 1: raising it and what he did with it after he 99 00:06:53,155 --> 00:06:57,395 Speaker 1: raised it, except Smith has gone granular on us on 100 00:06:57,515 --> 00:07:00,955 Speaker 1: this front. CNN again reporting quote questions asked if two 101 00:07:00,995 --> 00:07:04,875 Speaker 1: recent witnesses indicate Smith is focusing on how money raised 102 00:07:05,075 --> 00:07:08,715 Speaker 1: off baseless claims of voter fraud was used to fund 103 00:07:08,795 --> 00:07:12,795 Speaker 1: attempts to breach voting equipment in several states won by 104 00:07:12,915 --> 00:07:18,475 Speaker 1: Joe Bidenote CNN got the invoices that apparently intrigued Smith 105 00:07:18,795 --> 00:07:22,795 Speaker 1: that show Sidney more cracked than crack, and Powell hired 106 00:07:22,835 --> 00:07:28,155 Speaker 1: forensic computer firms that eventually got inside voting equipment in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, 107 00:07:28,155 --> 00:07:32,235 Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania, states which you may just remember were all 108 00:07:32,275 --> 00:07:35,915 Speaker 1: won by Joe Biden. CNN is not detailing how the 109 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:40,755 Speaker 1: Little Thought Electron jumped from Jack Smith's investigation of Trump 110 00:07:40,955 --> 00:07:45,275 Speaker 1: fundraising scams to Sidney Powell's electronic breaking and entering, But 111 00:07:45,355 --> 00:07:50,955 Speaker 1: there it is. There could be a fifth set of 112 00:07:50,995 --> 00:07:56,835 Speaker 1: federal indictments, or folded into the elections subversion trial in Washington, 113 00:07:56,875 --> 00:08:07,475 Speaker 1: a second case in which Donald Trump is reindicted, reinnided, 114 00:08:07,715 --> 00:08:13,595 Speaker 1: and it feels so good. Reindided like a spy. 115 00:08:13,755 --> 00:08:16,715 Speaker 2: In Wood's one perfect fit. 116 00:08:17,755 --> 00:08:23,235 Speaker 1: Are the country's so excited causes. 117 00:08:23,075 --> 00:08:30,035 Speaker 2: Prey, Thank you, Nancy Faust. 118 00:08:30,915 --> 00:08:39,515 Speaker 1: Sorry, couldn't resist, nor evidently can Trump resist. Hugh Hewitt, 119 00:08:39,795 --> 00:08:42,075 Speaker 1: the man who grew up so poor that his family 120 00:08:42,075 --> 00:08:45,275 Speaker 1: could only afford the two syllables with which to try 121 00:08:45,275 --> 00:08:48,195 Speaker 1: to build a first and last name out of, asks 122 00:08:48,315 --> 00:08:52,035 Speaker 1: Trump if he will testify at his own trial. Oh yes, 123 00:08:52,195 --> 00:08:56,355 Speaker 1: he says absolutely, and a mighty roar goes up from 124 00:08:56,395 --> 00:09:00,355 Speaker 1: everybody in the Special Council's office. Quote, I'll look forward 125 00:09:00,395 --> 00:09:05,235 Speaker 1: to testifying a trial. I'll testify, And cheers go through 126 00:09:05,275 --> 00:09:11,475 Speaker 1: the halls. Shay Fanny Willis now again pump the brakes. 127 00:09:11,995 --> 00:09:16,075 Speaker 1: Trump said this, It doesn't mean he's gonna do this, 128 00:09:16,955 --> 00:09:21,235 Speaker 1: call it the Infrastructure week rule. But wait, there's more. 129 00:09:21,675 --> 00:09:25,315 Speaker 1: Poor Hugh Hugh asks him another question if Smith and 130 00:09:25,355 --> 00:09:28,395 Speaker 1: Willis and Alvin Bragg said we're willing to drop all 131 00:09:28,435 --> 00:09:31,475 Speaker 1: the charges, but you have to leave the presidential race. Quote. 132 00:09:31,835 --> 00:09:34,715 Speaker 1: I have no interest, you know me well enough. No interest, 133 00:09:34,995 --> 00:09:38,195 Speaker 1: Absolutely no interest. I think they'd make that deal right now, 134 00:09:39,555 --> 00:09:43,275 Speaker 1: which means he has interest and I don't know about 135 00:09:43,315 --> 00:09:46,355 Speaker 1: them making that deal right now crew just sued, and 136 00:09:46,435 --> 00:09:50,915 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment is now so mainstream. I heard about 137 00:09:50,915 --> 00:09:54,235 Speaker 1: it right in the middle of the repeating headlines on 138 00:09:54,315 --> 00:09:58,635 Speaker 1: the New York all news radio station WIS, right between 139 00:09:58,675 --> 00:10:01,955 Speaker 1: the real field temperature of ninety six and traffic on 140 00:10:02,035 --> 00:10:05,235 Speaker 1: the FDR and whatever dumb thing Mayor adams Us said. 141 00:10:05,555 --> 00:10:09,515 Speaker 1: Why even the Associated Press reported about the fourteenth Amendment. 142 00:10:10,755 --> 00:10:14,315 Speaker 1: This is a friendly suit crew suing the Secretary of 143 00:10:14,355 --> 00:10:18,475 Speaker 1: State of Colorado on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated voters, 144 00:10:18,515 --> 00:10:22,675 Speaker 1: including a conservative Denver Post columnist and former Trump voter, 145 00:10:23,155 --> 00:10:27,515 Speaker 1: and separately a former Republican state legislative leader, and they 146 00:10:27,555 --> 00:10:30,235 Speaker 1: asked that Trump be disqualified from the ballot. There, the 147 00:10:30,235 --> 00:10:33,675 Speaker 1: Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold replies, quote, this case will 148 00:10:33,675 --> 00:10:36,955 Speaker 1: provide guidance to election officials on Trump's eligibility as a 149 00:10:36,995 --> 00:10:41,395 Speaker 1: candidate for office. You bet it will. Colorado is the 150 00:10:41,475 --> 00:10:44,635 Speaker 1: venue because it allows ballot challenges to go straight to 151 00:10:44,755 --> 00:10:48,195 Speaker 1: court and it can be wrapped up before the primaries 152 00:10:48,235 --> 00:10:53,395 Speaker 1: hit next January. And because and this is fascinating. Eight 153 00:10:53,555 --> 00:10:56,915 Speaker 1: years ago, a naturalized American citizen who was born in 154 00:10:56,995 --> 00:11:02,995 Speaker 1: Guyana sued over this issue of presidential eligibility. He claimed 155 00:11:03,035 --> 00:11:06,035 Speaker 1: the requirement that every candidate be born in the US 156 00:11:06,155 --> 00:11:09,715 Speaker 1: was unfair and he wanted to be on the presidential ballot. 157 00:11:10,555 --> 00:11:14,395 Speaker 1: He lost his lawsuit, and when it was appealed to 158 00:11:14,435 --> 00:11:18,115 Speaker 1: a federal appeals court, the judge there upheld the defeat 159 00:11:18,155 --> 00:11:22,955 Speaker 1: because there are constitutional eligibility requirements to be president and 160 00:11:23,035 --> 00:11:25,275 Speaker 1: they should be enforced. And the judge who said that 161 00:11:25,595 --> 00:11:35,675 Speaker 1: was Neil Gorsuch roight Row calling Leonard Leo, we need 162 00:11:35,715 --> 00:11:41,555 Speaker 1: a replacement for Neil Gorstch immediately. What's Jason Whitlock doing now? 163 00:11:41,635 --> 00:11:45,115 Speaker 1: The other headlines of Trump and the terrible, horrible, no good, 164 00:11:45,235 --> 00:11:48,075 Speaker 1: very bad day he has as good as lost his 165 00:11:48,155 --> 00:11:51,235 Speaker 1: second defamation suit to Egen Carroll. Okay, which one of 166 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:55,315 Speaker 1: your geniuses keep scheduling Trump to face Ejen Carroll? She's 167 00:11:55,395 --> 00:11:59,115 Speaker 1: four and oh against him? For Christ's sake, the judge 168 00:11:59,115 --> 00:12:02,115 Speaker 1: here ruled that Trump is liable for defamatory statements he 169 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:05,515 Speaker 1: made about her when she originally went public about the 170 00:12:05,635 --> 00:12:09,955 Speaker 1: rape in twenty nineteen. The trial will now deal only 171 00:12:09,995 --> 00:12:13,315 Speaker 1: with how much more, if anything, Trump owes her on 172 00:12:13,395 --> 00:12:15,515 Speaker 1: top of the five million he already owes her from 173 00:12:15,555 --> 00:12:20,235 Speaker 1: the other defamation suit. Meanwhile, in a different New York 174 00:12:20,315 --> 00:12:23,755 Speaker 1: court room, another New York judge threw out Trump's bid 175 00:12:23,795 --> 00:12:26,715 Speaker 1: to delay the corporate fraud civil lawsuit filed by New 176 00:12:26,795 --> 00:12:30,715 Speaker 1: York State Attorney General Tis James, and he kicked Trump 177 00:12:30,715 --> 00:12:33,475 Speaker 1: in the ass as he did it. Trump's arguments in 178 00:12:33,515 --> 00:12:39,955 Speaker 1: this case are quote completely without merit. In the Fannie 179 00:12:39,955 --> 00:12:43,155 Speaker 1: Willis prosecution in Georgia, prosecutors told to judge they anticipate 180 00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:46,715 Speaker 1: a four month trial, a four month trial, or as 181 00:12:46,755 --> 00:12:52,155 Speaker 1: we call it here in New York, half a Mets season. Also, 182 00:12:52,235 --> 00:12:54,835 Speaker 1: the Ken Cheeseboro and Sidney Powell bids to get their 183 00:12:54,835 --> 00:12:57,835 Speaker 1: trials severed from the others, Well, it's going to stay 184 00:12:57,995 --> 00:13:01,795 Speaker 1: Cheese and Kraken. They will get the expedited trials they 185 00:13:01,835 --> 00:13:05,355 Speaker 1: wanted starting late next month, and they will be together 186 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:08,555 Speaker 1: and the judge will decide shortly. If the other seventeen 187 00:13:08,635 --> 00:13:12,275 Speaker 1: defendants Trump included, we'll start on that date or later. 188 00:13:13,475 --> 00:13:17,835 Speaker 1: It is just possible, just possible, that Powell and Cheeseboro 189 00:13:18,075 --> 00:13:21,675 Speaker 1: lost because, according to prosecutors, each of them cited seven 190 00:13:21,755 --> 00:13:25,275 Speaker 1: cases as precedents, except none of the seven cases were 191 00:13:25,355 --> 00:13:28,035 Speaker 1: rico charges, and in all seven of the cases, the 192 00:13:28,115 --> 00:13:30,795 Speaker 1: defendants did not get their trials separated from the others, 193 00:13:30,835 --> 00:13:37,475 Speaker 1: which seems like an excellent strategy if you're trying to lose. Now, 194 00:13:37,515 --> 00:13:40,675 Speaker 1: back to Mary A. Lago and the stolen classified documents case. 195 00:13:40,715 --> 00:13:42,835 Speaker 1: Not a shock unless you are still shocked by Trump 196 00:13:42,875 --> 00:13:45,915 Speaker 1: being so Dunning Krueger that he should change his name 197 00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:51,835 Speaker 1: to Donald J. Dunning Krueger Trump. Remember the ex Trump attorney, 198 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:55,795 Speaker 1: Evan Corkoran, the one that prosecutors got a judge to 199 00:13:55,875 --> 00:13:58,955 Speaker 1: force to testify against him because he had made audio 200 00:13:59,035 --> 00:14:03,155 Speaker 1: memos of every meeting with Trump. ABC News has seen 201 00:14:03,235 --> 00:14:06,115 Speaker 1: transcripts of some of those men, and in one Corkoran 202 00:14:06,235 --> 00:14:10,995 Speaker 1: memorialized that in May of twenty twenty two May, he 203 00:14:11,115 --> 00:14:13,275 Speaker 1: warned Trump face to face that if Trump did not 204 00:14:13,395 --> 00:14:16,315 Speaker 1: comply with the new Justice Departments of poena to return 205 00:14:16,435 --> 00:14:20,515 Speaker 1: all them classified docs, the FBI might wind up searching 206 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:25,835 Speaker 1: the joint Then, on another Corkoran memo, another attorney warrened 207 00:14:25,835 --> 00:14:30,155 Speaker 1: Corkoran that if he pushed Trump to comply, quote, He's 208 00:14:30,275 --> 00:14:36,715 Speaker 1: just gonna go ballistic, like that's news or something. Corkoran's 209 00:14:36,755 --> 00:14:39,435 Speaker 1: memos show that Trump was by that time May of 210 00:14:39,715 --> 00:14:43,115 Speaker 1: last year trying to dictate where the lawyers and the 211 00:14:43,115 --> 00:14:46,315 Speaker 1: Feds could and could not look for the documents. They 212 00:14:46,395 --> 00:14:49,035 Speaker 1: also showed that every time Corkoran tried to talk about reality, 213 00:14:49,075 --> 00:14:52,955 Speaker 1: Trump complained he was the victim, and he was being targeted, 214 00:14:53,035 --> 00:14:56,035 Speaker 1: and he was the usual martyrdom stuff, et cetera, et cetera. 215 00:14:56,115 --> 00:15:00,395 Speaker 1: But there is one glorious detail. Corcoran and Trump are 216 00:15:00,435 --> 00:15:04,995 Speaker 1: in Trump's office, and per ABC, they are quote in 217 00:15:05,035 --> 00:15:09,435 Speaker 1: front of a Norman Rockwell style painting depicting Ronald Reagan, 218 00:15:10,275 --> 00:15:19,155 Speaker 1: Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton, and Trump playing poker unquote. There 219 00:15:19,235 --> 00:15:21,915 Speaker 1: is nothing on the Corcoran recordings of how many dozen 220 00:15:21,995 --> 00:15:24,795 Speaker 1: aces Trump had up his sleeve in the painting, nor 221 00:15:24,835 --> 00:15:27,115 Speaker 1: how he managed to assert that he was entitled to 222 00:15:27,195 --> 00:15:32,035 Speaker 1: keep them there. And also from Mary a Lago. I 223 00:15:32,075 --> 00:15:35,035 Speaker 1: mean this was obvious by August twenty second, and some 224 00:15:35,315 --> 00:15:38,555 Speaker 1: news outlets were still pretending yesterday was breaking news. But 225 00:15:38,715 --> 00:15:41,315 Speaker 1: yesterday the mouthpiece that Trump had supplied for his it 226 00:15:41,795 --> 00:15:45,595 Speaker 1: guy at Marri a Lago, you Seal Tavares, Stanley Woodward, 227 00:15:45,595 --> 00:15:49,435 Speaker 1: who is now U Seal's ex attorney. Stanley Woodward made 228 00:15:49,475 --> 00:15:52,995 Speaker 1: it official. Taveres cut a deal with prosecutors and he 229 00:15:53,075 --> 00:15:58,315 Speaker 1: will testify against the others, like maybe Trump, like Trump 230 00:15:58,355 --> 00:16:01,995 Speaker 1: co defendant Carlos. The boss wants the server deleted de 231 00:16:02,115 --> 00:16:06,915 Speaker 1: olivera and he will not be arched. And best of all, Tavaris' 232 00:16:07,035 --> 00:16:11,155 Speaker 1: name is you Seal? You make the van time leave me? 233 00:16:11,395 --> 00:16:16,555 Speaker 1: You seal? We already counts against me and your plead. 234 00:16:18,235 --> 00:16:21,995 Speaker 1: The boss wants Server to lead, it, won't he? You 235 00:16:22,075 --> 00:16:27,595 Speaker 1: make the van time leave me? You see think youay? 236 00:16:27,595 --> 00:16:31,635 Speaker 1: It's a fast and one last headline. If there is 237 00:16:31,715 --> 00:16:34,675 Speaker 1: anything worse than the guy Sean Connery references in The 238 00:16:34,835 --> 00:16:38,595 Speaker 1: Untouchables the guy who brings a knife to a gunfight, 239 00:16:39,435 --> 00:16:41,395 Speaker 1: there is the other guy who brings a knife to 240 00:16:41,475 --> 00:16:44,035 Speaker 1: a gunfight and then boasts about how much trouble the 241 00:16:44,075 --> 00:16:47,315 Speaker 1: guy with the gun is in. And lastly, of course, 242 00:16:47,315 --> 00:16:50,315 Speaker 1: there's the guy who brings the knife to an atomic war. 243 00:16:51,275 --> 00:16:56,835 Speaker 1: And that guy is Mike Huckabee. Before I play you 244 00:16:56,915 --> 00:17:02,515 Speaker 1: this clip, I always flash back to Mike Huckabee's extraordinary cowardice. 245 00:17:03,515 --> 00:17:06,995 Speaker 1: Chris Matthews and I I were actually sent to Columbia, 246 00:17:07,075 --> 00:17:11,195 Speaker 1: South Carolina. First, we went to California for the first debate, 247 00:17:11,235 --> 00:17:13,355 Speaker 1: but in May of two thousand and seven, We went 248 00:17:13,355 --> 00:17:18,075 Speaker 1: to Columbia, South Carolina to anchor live MSNBC coverage of 249 00:17:18,155 --> 00:17:22,275 Speaker 1: the second Republican debate, and we're doing the pregame show 250 00:17:23,115 --> 00:17:25,675 Speaker 1: and they bring Huckabee out for a quick interview, and 251 00:17:25,755 --> 00:17:28,795 Speaker 1: Matthews rises to greet him, but huck has only got 252 00:17:28,835 --> 00:17:32,235 Speaker 1: eyes for me, and he's staring in shock that I 253 00:17:32,275 --> 00:17:35,955 Speaker 1: am there. He is frozen, he's got no idea what 254 00:17:36,075 --> 00:17:38,515 Speaker 1: to do. He's just standing there and he starts staring 255 00:17:38,595 --> 00:17:41,675 Speaker 1: daggers at me, And finally I said, no, don't worry, Governor, 256 00:17:42,515 --> 00:17:44,915 Speaker 1: I've got this segment off. You don't have to make 257 00:17:44,955 --> 00:17:48,795 Speaker 1: a scene. He later told conservative writers that he had 258 00:17:48,835 --> 00:17:51,235 Speaker 1: refused to do the segment if I was on, which 259 00:17:51,315 --> 00:17:53,795 Speaker 1: might have been true, but was kind of irrelevant since 260 00:17:53,955 --> 00:17:59,755 Speaker 1: I wasn't Huckabee after he blew out of the presidential race. 261 00:17:59,995 --> 00:18:02,715 Speaker 1: He actually was a candidate for president. Used to be 262 00:18:02,835 --> 00:18:05,435 Speaker 1: on Fox, then he used to be on AB Radio, 263 00:18:05,875 --> 00:18:10,035 Speaker 1: that he was on Cumulus. Now he's on the Trinity 264 00:18:10,275 --> 00:18:14,955 Speaker 1: Broadcasting Network. And see if this crap from his latest show, 265 00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:18,435 Speaker 1: Hawkabee sounds at all familiar. 266 00:18:18,635 --> 00:18:21,475 Speaker 3: Do you know how political opponents to those in power 267 00:18:21,955 --> 00:18:25,835 Speaker 3: are dealt with in Third World? Dictatorships, the Nana republics, 268 00:18:25,835 --> 00:18:29,755 Speaker 3: and communist regimes. Well, it's simple. The people in power 269 00:18:30,035 --> 00:18:34,195 Speaker 3: use their police agencies to arrest their opponents for made 270 00:18:34,275 --> 00:18:38,035 Speaker 3: up crimes in an attempt to discredit them, bankrupt them, 271 00:18:38,515 --> 00:18:42,435 Speaker 3: imprison them, exile them. Are all of the above. 272 00:18:42,675 --> 00:18:44,875 Speaker 1: So wait, Mike Cockabee is being critical of Trump and 273 00:18:44,875 --> 00:18:49,915 Speaker 1: the Republicans. Oh, he's not, even though Trump's entire campaign 274 00:18:49,915 --> 00:18:53,115 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen was lock her Up, and while President 275 00:18:53,155 --> 00:18:56,435 Speaker 1: Trump repeatedly tried to get Hillary Clinton prosecuted and James 276 00:18:56,435 --> 00:19:00,675 Speaker 1: Comy prosecuted, and his campaign this time around has been 277 00:19:00,715 --> 00:19:03,395 Speaker 1: about how he's going to prosecute everybody who's ever crossed him. 278 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:06,075 Speaker 1: And we're this close to threatening to prosecute the other 279 00:19:06,155 --> 00:19:09,515 Speaker 1: owners from the United States Football League who dared to 280 00:19:09,595 --> 00:19:12,315 Speaker 1: send out teams to try to defeat his sainted team, 281 00:19:12,515 --> 00:19:15,275 Speaker 1: the New Jersey Genitals of nineteen eighty three and eighty four. 282 00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:19,955 Speaker 1: We rejoin my Kakabee threatening people will be killed if 283 00:19:19,995 --> 00:19:24,075 Speaker 1: Trump is not re elected. Already in progress. Here's the problem. 284 00:19:24,075 --> 00:19:26,675 Speaker 3: If these tactics end up working to keep Trump from 285 00:19:26,715 --> 00:19:29,675 Speaker 3: winning or even running in twenty twenty four, it is 286 00:19:29,715 --> 00:19:31,835 Speaker 3: going to be the last American election that will be 287 00:19:31,875 --> 00:19:34,075 Speaker 3: decided by ballots rather than bullets. 288 00:19:34,635 --> 00:19:40,235 Speaker 1: As always, Republicans introduce something evil, then they attempt the evil. 289 00:19:40,475 --> 00:19:44,915 Speaker 1: Then they bluntly surprisingly fail to pull off the evil 290 00:19:44,955 --> 00:19:47,355 Speaker 1: because they talk a great game, but they can neither 291 00:19:47,395 --> 00:19:51,595 Speaker 1: govern nor strong arm. And then they whine and claim 292 00:19:51,635 --> 00:19:54,915 Speaker 1: they are the victims of something the Democrats just invented, 293 00:19:55,075 --> 00:19:59,155 Speaker 1: when the Democrats do a legal and morally justifiable version 294 00:19:59,555 --> 00:20:04,435 Speaker 1: of the illegal Republican thing. Also, as I always like 295 00:20:04,475 --> 00:20:07,515 Speaker 1: to throw in for the edification of Republicans and fascists 296 00:20:07,795 --> 00:20:12,275 Speaker 1: and red Staters and other losers who only understand stuff 297 00:20:12,315 --> 00:20:22,115 Speaker 1: like this, who is it again? Who has all the tanks? 298 00:20:25,195 --> 00:20:28,155 Speaker 1: Also of interest here, I still have the throat infection. 299 00:20:28,435 --> 00:20:31,795 Speaker 1: Got a little worse. Actually, I've got a worse person's next, 300 00:20:31,875 --> 00:20:35,195 Speaker 1: I've got Rand Paul talking about that quote vacant look 301 00:20:35,595 --> 00:20:39,635 Speaker 1: where quote you're sort of basically unconscious with your eyes 302 00:20:39,795 --> 00:20:44,675 Speaker 1: open and startlingly. No, he's not looking at his own reflection. 303 00:20:45,715 --> 00:20:47,555 Speaker 1: That's next, This discountdown. 304 00:20:49,635 --> 00:20:53,035 Speaker 3: This is countdown with Keith Olberman. 305 00:21:05,995 --> 00:21:08,995 Speaker 1: Still ahead on countdown. It is the universal warning, if 306 00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:12,795 Speaker 1: you want to enjoy sausage, never go see how the 307 00:21:12,915 --> 00:21:17,475 Speaker 1: sausage is made. It's not just about how gross sausage 308 00:21:17,515 --> 00:21:21,555 Speaker 1: can be behind the scenes. It's also about how peeking 309 00:21:21,635 --> 00:21:24,955 Speaker 1: behind any curtain can take the magic out of what's 310 00:21:24,995 --> 00:21:28,915 Speaker 1: produced behind the curtain. It's forty eight years since I 311 00:21:29,075 --> 00:21:31,555 Speaker 1: was warned, if you want to enjoy radio or TV, 312 00:21:31,715 --> 00:21:34,875 Speaker 1: or movies or any kind of media, do not start 313 00:21:34,915 --> 00:21:39,595 Speaker 1: working in them. Sadly, I ignored that. The day that 314 00:21:39,675 --> 00:21:42,715 Speaker 1: I ignored it coming up in things I promised not to tell. 315 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:46,915 Speaker 1: Plus a singing surprise for you if you stay all 316 00:21:46,995 --> 00:21:50,795 Speaker 1: the way through the end. Plus Okay, my E and 317 00:21:50,835 --> 00:21:52,715 Speaker 1: T says, I can give you the daily roundup of 318 00:21:52,715 --> 00:21:56,475 Speaker 1: the miscreants, morons, and Dunn Kruger effects specimens who constitute 319 00:21:56,475 --> 00:22:01,875 Speaker 1: today's worst persons in the world. The Bronze Anderson Cooper 320 00:22:02,115 --> 00:22:06,075 Speaker 1: talking about not being able to enjoy broadcasting ever again, 321 00:22:06,795 --> 00:22:13,475 Speaker 1: the world's longest running unsuccessful marketing experiment is still making 322 00:22:13,635 --> 00:22:16,795 Speaker 1: hay Off the death of his mother and his brother. 323 00:22:18,235 --> 00:22:22,155 Speaker 1: Book three on this topic is Coming, got him another 324 00:22:22,195 --> 00:22:24,595 Speaker 1: profile in The New York Times. He now has more 325 00:22:24,595 --> 00:22:26,795 Speaker 1: profiles in The New York Times than he has viewers. 326 00:22:27,315 --> 00:22:29,435 Speaker 1: But if that's the way you want to live your life, 327 00:22:29,515 --> 00:22:33,555 Speaker 1: have fun. The latest Times fluff piece didn't question him 328 00:22:33,595 --> 00:22:37,155 Speaker 1: once about denigrating his own audience, saying on air they 329 00:22:37,155 --> 00:22:40,075 Speaker 1: were quote staying in your silo and only listening to 330 00:22:40,075 --> 00:22:42,475 Speaker 1: people you agree with. But it did give him the 331 00:22:42,555 --> 00:22:45,475 Speaker 1: chance to really show how little he understands what he 332 00:22:45,555 --> 00:22:49,115 Speaker 1: does for a living. The Times Fluffer asked him about 333 00:22:49,275 --> 00:22:53,675 Speaker 1: Chris Licked quote, I don't know what Chris Licks analysis was. 334 00:22:53,955 --> 00:22:55,875 Speaker 1: I don't have much confidence that I actually know what 335 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:59,515 Speaker 1: he was thinking. Well, welcome to the club. I try 336 00:22:59,515 --> 00:23:01,635 Speaker 1: to worry about stuff I actually have my hands on. 337 00:23:02,155 --> 00:23:04,435 Speaker 1: For me, it's the show that I work on. That 338 00:23:04,515 --> 00:23:06,715 Speaker 1: is my priority, and I do whatever I can to 339 00:23:07,155 --> 00:23:08,915 Speaker 1: do that to make that as good as I can. 340 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:11,475 Speaker 1: My sense from Chris was there was not a lot 341 00:23:11,555 --> 00:23:15,515 Speaker 1: we needed to hash out because I'm not an opinion host. 342 00:23:16,235 --> 00:23:19,835 Speaker 1: I'm talking to people from different sides and trying to 343 00:23:19,835 --> 00:23:23,795 Speaker 1: be straight down the middle and represent things fairly and accurately. 344 00:23:25,355 --> 00:23:27,955 Speaker 1: Upshot of this is Anderson Cooper thinks he's not an 345 00:23:27,995 --> 00:23:31,755 Speaker 1: opinion host and he's trying to be straight down the middle. 346 00:23:33,235 --> 00:23:35,115 Speaker 1: And no, the guy did not ask him how that 347 00:23:35,155 --> 00:23:39,595 Speaker 1: would jibe with attacking his own audience and ending his 348 00:23:39,635 --> 00:23:43,595 Speaker 1: career the way he did the runner up, Little Jimmy O'Keefe. 349 00:23:43,595 --> 00:23:45,195 Speaker 1: And I think I first put him on this list 350 00:23:45,235 --> 00:23:48,235 Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, and fourteen years later, you know, 351 00:23:48,275 --> 00:23:50,675 Speaker 1: it is kind of nice to know that the only 352 00:23:50,715 --> 00:23:52,755 Speaker 1: thing I got wrong about him was how much of 353 00:23:52,795 --> 00:23:56,115 Speaker 1: a bozo he was. And he is, And you're thinking, yeah, 354 00:23:56,155 --> 00:23:58,795 Speaker 1: I know this story. I know about this. He bankrupted 355 00:23:58,835 --> 00:24:03,475 Speaker 1: his little deceptive editing outfit, Project Veritas, by spending all 356 00:24:03,595 --> 00:24:07,995 Speaker 1: Project Veritas money on helicopters that he could take to 357 00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:10,435 Speaker 1: musicals that he would pay for so he could star 358 00:24:10,635 --> 00:24:15,595 Speaker 1: in them. But wait, there's more. The Washington Post got 359 00:24:15,595 --> 00:24:19,515 Speaker 1: hold of an internal audit on where all the money 360 00:24:19,555 --> 00:24:24,435 Speaker 1: went at Project Kiss my Ass. And I cannot paraphrase 361 00:24:24,515 --> 00:24:26,875 Speaker 1: this paragraph any better than Will Summer wrote it, so 362 00:24:26,915 --> 00:24:31,115 Speaker 1: I'm just going to quote him verbatim. In September twenty 363 00:24:31,155 --> 00:24:35,395 Speaker 1: twenty one, according to the report, Hurricane Ida floodwaters threatened 364 00:24:35,435 --> 00:24:39,035 Speaker 1: to destroy the Project Veritas office in Mamaranac, New York. 365 00:24:39,475 --> 00:24:42,275 Speaker 1: The staff scrambled to save equipment and their own lives. 366 00:24:42,595 --> 00:24:46,795 Speaker 1: One elderly employee was briefly pulled under water and had 367 00:24:46,875 --> 00:24:50,675 Speaker 1: to be rescued. By colleagues, but O'Keefe had already left 368 00:24:50,675 --> 00:24:56,195 Speaker 1: the scene, asking employees to prioritize his own evacuation so 369 00:24:56,235 --> 00:25:00,155 Speaker 1: he could make it to Virginia for a performance of 370 00:25:00,195 --> 00:25:04,155 Speaker 1: the musical Oklahoma, in which he had the lead role. 371 00:25:04,715 --> 00:25:11,275 Speaker 1: According to staffers cited by the audit Ohklahoma, where the 372 00:25:11,355 --> 00:25:21,115 Speaker 1: floodwaters nearly drowned the staffer, but our winner Rand Paul. Now, look, 373 00:25:21,115 --> 00:25:25,195 Speaker 1: if Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell were both on fire 374 00:25:25,955 --> 00:25:31,435 Speaker 1: and the hydraulic laws of nature were overwhelming me, i'd 375 00:25:31,475 --> 00:25:35,635 Speaker 1: hold it in. But Rand Paul's statement about Mitch McConnell's 376 00:25:35,635 --> 00:25:39,835 Speaker 1: recent freezes, it's just amazing, and maybe not for the 377 00:25:39,875 --> 00:25:44,275 Speaker 1: obvious reason. Rand Paul, who is a board certified ophthalmologist, 378 00:25:44,355 --> 00:25:47,595 Speaker 1: only because he created his own board to rival the 379 00:25:47,635 --> 00:25:51,075 Speaker 1: real board, and he had his own board certify him. 380 00:25:51,555 --> 00:25:54,795 Speaker 1: Rand Paul is not convinced by McConnell's doctor's explanation that 381 00:25:54,835 --> 00:25:58,915 Speaker 1: his recent episodes of vapor locke were caused by dehydration. 382 00:26:00,035 --> 00:26:03,315 Speaker 1: When you get dehydrated, Rand Paul says, you don't have 383 00:26:03,435 --> 00:26:06,635 Speaker 1: moments when you're eyes look in the distance with a 384 00:26:06,755 --> 00:26:10,155 Speaker 1: vacant look, and you're sort of basically unconscious with your 385 00:26:10,155 --> 00:26:15,315 Speaker 1: eyes open. So you and I need to start a 386 00:26:15,355 --> 00:26:19,475 Speaker 1: go fund me to buy Senator Rand Paul a mirror. 387 00:26:20,715 --> 00:26:24,155 Speaker 1: Moments when your eyes look in the distance, those are 388 00:26:24,195 --> 00:26:29,955 Speaker 1: the only moments Rand Paul has. Vacant look. Rand Paul 389 00:26:30,195 --> 00:26:35,755 Speaker 1: owns the vacant look. Sort of basically unconscious with your 390 00:26:35,835 --> 00:26:40,675 Speaker 1: eyes open. My God, sort of basically unconscious with your 391 00:26:40,715 --> 00:26:46,875 Speaker 1: eyes open is the Rand Paul brand. Rand dead eyed 392 00:26:46,915 --> 00:26:49,555 Speaker 1: Dick is not the compliment you may think it is. 393 00:26:49,755 --> 00:26:53,075 Speaker 1: Paul two days, Let's see if I can do this 394 00:26:53,355 --> 00:27:09,355 Speaker 1: worst person in the world to the number one story 395 00:27:09,355 --> 00:27:12,155 Speaker 1: on the Countdown and my favorite topic me and another 396 00:27:12,275 --> 00:27:15,795 Speaker 1: edition of Things I Promised not to tell. Earlier this month, 397 00:27:15,795 --> 00:27:18,435 Speaker 1: the film director Peter Jackson was on a podcast put 398 00:27:18,475 --> 00:27:21,315 Speaker 1: out by The Hollywood Reporter magazine, and he said his 399 00:27:21,355 --> 00:27:24,195 Speaker 1: greatest regret about making the Lord of the Rings trilogy 400 00:27:24,515 --> 00:27:27,875 Speaker 1: was that he could never actually go see the films. 401 00:27:28,555 --> 00:27:31,675 Speaker 1: It is such a regret. Peter Jackson said he had 402 00:27:31,755 --> 00:27:35,595 Speaker 1: looked into getting hypnotherapy to make him forget the work 403 00:27:35,635 --> 00:27:37,835 Speaker 1: he did on the films, and even to forget the 404 00:27:37,875 --> 00:27:41,315 Speaker 1: films themselves, just so he could go see them. Like 405 00:27:41,395 --> 00:27:43,755 Speaker 1: the ninety nine point nine to nine nine percent of 406 00:27:43,755 --> 00:27:47,715 Speaker 1: the world that did not direct the Hobbit flicks. Quoting 407 00:27:47,795 --> 00:27:50,595 Speaker 1: Jackson from the Awards Chatter podcast, it was such a 408 00:27:50,635 --> 00:27:53,315 Speaker 1: loss for me not to be able to experience them 409 00:27:53,355 --> 00:27:56,435 Speaker 1: like everyone else was that I actually did seriously consider 410 00:27:56,475 --> 00:27:59,795 Speaker 1: going to a hypnotherapy guy and to hypnotize me, to 411 00:27:59,795 --> 00:28:01,795 Speaker 1: make me forget about the films and forget about the 412 00:28:01,835 --> 00:28:04,995 Speaker 1: work I'd done over the last six to seven years, 413 00:28:05,195 --> 00:28:08,595 Speaker 1: so I could sit and enjoy them. Just put your 414 00:28:08,635 --> 00:28:11,675 Speaker 1: head down here on the taper racing machine and we'll 415 00:28:11,755 --> 00:28:14,875 Speaker 1: hit the degaos button and you'll be fine. Pete. I mean, 416 00:28:14,955 --> 00:28:18,155 Speaker 1: you won't remember anything since the year twenty fifteen. But 417 00:28:18,875 --> 00:28:23,635 Speaker 1: away we go. It didn't happen. Apparently Jackson chickened out, 418 00:28:23,875 --> 00:28:27,235 Speaker 1: so no hypnotherapist caused him to forget making The Lord 419 00:28:27,275 --> 00:28:31,595 Speaker 1: of the Rings. But one, I guess made me remember 420 00:28:31,635 --> 00:28:33,635 Speaker 1: a piece of advice that somebody should have given Peter 421 00:28:33,755 --> 00:28:36,475 Speaker 1: Jackson before he made The Lord of the Rings trilogy 422 00:28:36,875 --> 00:28:39,795 Speaker 1: forty seven years ago. This week, I arrived at Cornell 423 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:43,115 Speaker 1: University as a sixteen year old freshman. We all got 424 00:28:43,115 --> 00:28:46,475 Speaker 1: there on Sunday, August twenty fourth. My folks stayed I 425 00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:50,155 Speaker 1: think one night, and before they left, my dad helped 426 00:28:50,155 --> 00:28:53,635 Speaker 1: me to find the college radio station WVBR, which turned 427 00:28:53,635 --> 00:28:56,395 Speaker 1: out not to really be a college radio station per se. 428 00:28:56,435 --> 00:28:58,835 Speaker 1: It wasn't even on the campus. We were driving around 429 00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:01,275 Speaker 1: for quite a while until we found it early in 430 00:29:01,315 --> 00:29:05,515 Speaker 1: the afternoon of Monday, August twenty fifth, seventy five. This 431 00:29:05,595 --> 00:29:09,315 Speaker 1: is the anniversary. The address was two twenty seven Linden Avenue, Ithaca, 432 00:29:09,355 --> 00:29:14,195 Speaker 1: New York. I walked into this sprawling, always a little cold, 433 00:29:14,355 --> 00:29:18,275 Speaker 1: but nicely converted old gas station and parking garage, and 434 00:29:18,355 --> 00:29:21,715 Speaker 1: the first person I saw was a young, not too 435 00:29:21,995 --> 00:29:23,995 Speaker 1: tall woman who asked me if she could help me, 436 00:29:24,035 --> 00:29:26,115 Speaker 1: and I said, Hi, I'm a freshman. I'd like to 437 00:29:26,115 --> 00:29:29,635 Speaker 1: become a sportscaster. And she actually said, sounds like you 438 00:29:29,675 --> 00:29:32,475 Speaker 1: already are. Hi. I'm ROBERTA. Haber. I'm the training director, 439 00:29:32,515 --> 00:29:34,955 Speaker 1: but we don't really start training until about four weeks 440 00:29:34,955 --> 00:29:37,235 Speaker 1: from now. You'll see the flyers in the announcements. It 441 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,795 Speaker 1: should be the last Monday in September. I think we'll 442 00:29:39,795 --> 00:29:42,275 Speaker 1: be able to find a place for you. She gave 443 00:29:42,275 --> 00:29:44,915 Speaker 1: me a quick tour of WBR and then ushered me 444 00:29:45,115 --> 00:29:49,555 Speaker 1: the hell out. I checked for those flyers every day, 445 00:29:49,835 --> 00:29:54,035 Speaker 1: and finally there they were Monday, September twenty second, at 446 00:29:54,075 --> 00:29:58,475 Speaker 1: open house for would be disc jockeys, newspeople, sportscasters, engineers, 447 00:29:58,555 --> 00:30:03,315 Speaker 1: eight pm WVBRFM Studios. I got there a little early 448 00:30:03,355 --> 00:30:06,235 Speaker 1: and there were already fifth people in the station lounge. 449 00:30:06,275 --> 00:30:08,875 Speaker 1: There were still a few open spots on the floor. 450 00:30:09,475 --> 00:30:12,475 Speaker 1: The place kept filling out. They cut it off and 451 00:30:12,555 --> 00:30:14,635 Speaker 1: started asking people to come back for a second open 452 00:30:14,675 --> 00:30:16,875 Speaker 1: house the next night. When it got to be about 453 00:30:16,915 --> 00:30:18,915 Speaker 1: one hundred of us sitting there, and when it was 454 00:30:18,955 --> 00:30:21,075 Speaker 1: so crowded in the lounge that I could no longer 455 00:30:21,115 --> 00:30:23,835 Speaker 1: see the posters on the wall celebrating two of the 456 00:30:23,835 --> 00:30:27,475 Speaker 1: most hotly promoted young rock stars of the day, Bruce 457 00:30:27,475 --> 00:30:32,915 Speaker 1: Springsteen and Loud and Waynewright the third. Anyway, we finally 458 00:30:32,955 --> 00:30:36,035 Speaker 1: got started. That woman who had greeted me Roberta, started 459 00:30:36,035 --> 00:30:38,795 Speaker 1: the inevitable passing around of the sign up sheet, and 460 00:30:38,835 --> 00:30:41,715 Speaker 1: then she said something that somebody should have told Peter 461 00:30:41,835 --> 00:30:45,355 Speaker 1: Jackson before he made those movies. She said, more or less, 462 00:30:46,035 --> 00:30:47,835 Speaker 1: this may sound like a joke, but it's not. We 463 00:30:47,915 --> 00:30:50,315 Speaker 1: always give this warning on the first night of training. 464 00:30:50,755 --> 00:30:52,915 Speaker 1: If you ever want to listen to the radio again 465 00:30:52,955 --> 00:30:58,515 Speaker 1: and just enjoy it. Here's the door. Leave now. Several 466 00:30:58,555 --> 00:31:03,115 Speaker 1: people laughed. No, I'm serious. Even if you just start 467 00:31:03,155 --> 00:31:05,315 Speaker 1: training and then leave, it'll still be too late for 468 00:31:05,395 --> 00:31:10,235 Speaker 1: you to ever just enjoy radio again. And the further 469 00:31:10,315 --> 00:31:11,955 Speaker 1: you get into it, the more things you have to 470 00:31:11,995 --> 00:31:15,235 Speaker 1: cross off your list. It's not that I can't listen 471 00:31:15,235 --> 00:31:18,915 Speaker 1: to the radio anymore. I can hear every accent. I 472 00:31:18,955 --> 00:31:21,995 Speaker 1: can hear everybody with a mushy s. I can hear 473 00:31:22,035 --> 00:31:24,635 Speaker 1: the dead air, I can hear the bad segues from 474 00:31:24,755 --> 00:31:28,395 Speaker 1: record to record. Well, that's bad enough. I'm in radio, 475 00:31:28,475 --> 00:31:31,515 Speaker 1: but this is my senior year, and I can't just 476 00:31:31,995 --> 00:31:34,875 Speaker 1: listen to music anymore. I used to be the music director. 477 00:31:34,915 --> 00:31:36,955 Speaker 1: Now I judge every song I hear. Would this be 478 00:31:36,995 --> 00:31:40,995 Speaker 1: good on WVBR. I can hear singers mispronounced words. I 479 00:31:40,995 --> 00:31:43,195 Speaker 1: can hear notes that aren't perfect. If you want to 480 00:31:43,275 --> 00:31:49,235 Speaker 1: enjoy radio or music, here's the door, leave now. Not 481 00:31:49,275 --> 00:31:52,235 Speaker 1: so many people laugh this time, and she continued. It 482 00:31:52,275 --> 00:31:55,915 Speaker 1: even begins to affect watching TV and movies because radio 483 00:31:55,955 --> 00:31:58,155 Speaker 1: gives you an idea of how TV and movies work 484 00:31:58,195 --> 00:32:01,035 Speaker 1: as well. There's an old saying, if you like sausage, 485 00:32:01,115 --> 00:32:04,035 Speaker 1: never go see how they make sausage. Even if you 486 00:32:04,155 --> 00:32:06,715 Speaker 1: like watching to make it, though, you'll still always think, 487 00:32:06,875 --> 00:32:09,435 Speaker 1: I wonder if they're making it correctly? What's the recipe here? 488 00:32:10,075 --> 00:32:12,515 Speaker 1: So if you want to enjoy radio, or music, or 489 00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:17,315 Speaker 1: television or life ever again, leave now. The guy sitting 490 00:32:17,315 --> 00:32:21,475 Speaker 1: next to me left. I did not. I wanted to 491 00:32:21,475 --> 00:32:24,235 Speaker 1: see how they made the sausage. The inability to just 492 00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,875 Speaker 1: sit back and flip the radio on and not pay 493 00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:29,275 Speaker 1: attention to it was a fair trade off. I had 494 00:32:29,275 --> 00:32:30,915 Speaker 1: already been doing that in high school. We had a 495 00:32:30,955 --> 00:32:33,195 Speaker 1: high school radio station. It wasn't much, but I used 496 00:32:33,235 --> 00:32:35,435 Speaker 1: to then listen to other radio stations, the real ones, 497 00:32:35,435 --> 00:32:38,195 Speaker 1: and go, that guy has a really, really bad New 498 00:32:38,275 --> 00:32:42,715 Speaker 1: York accent. WVBR turned out to be the best training 499 00:32:42,755 --> 00:32:45,835 Speaker 1: ground in the country. In my senior year, we literally 500 00:32:45,915 --> 00:32:48,515 Speaker 1: had a twenty nine year old guy from San Francisco 501 00:32:48,635 --> 00:32:51,475 Speaker 1: named Al who wanted to become a sportscaster and a 502 00:32:51,595 --> 00:32:54,795 Speaker 1: radio commercial salesman, and he moved to Ithaca, New York, 503 00:32:55,435 --> 00:32:58,915 Speaker 1: just to train at WVBR. I loved Ithaca, New York, 504 00:32:59,315 --> 00:33:02,075 Speaker 1: but I would never move from San Francisco. To Ithaca, 505 00:33:02,075 --> 00:33:05,795 Speaker 1: New York. That effect that you will hear every mistake 506 00:33:05,835 --> 00:33:08,915 Speaker 1: and reduce every joy to something technical. That actually began 507 00:33:08,995 --> 00:33:13,035 Speaker 1: to wear off after twenty years or so. I can 508 00:33:13,195 --> 00:33:16,235 Speaker 1: put the radio on now and once out of every 509 00:33:16,755 --> 00:33:20,355 Speaker 1: I don't know, three or four, one hundred times, I 510 00:33:20,395 --> 00:33:22,915 Speaker 1: won't hear the mistake or the sibilant s, or the 511 00:33:22,915 --> 00:33:25,755 Speaker 1: news reporter coming on and his volume in the studio 512 00:33:25,915 --> 00:33:29,235 Speaker 1: is too low and he sounds like this. There are 513 00:33:29,275 --> 00:33:32,475 Speaker 1: still some periodic flashbacks too, to other things that happened 514 00:33:32,515 --> 00:33:35,115 Speaker 1: early in my career. There one day, my clock radio 515 00:33:35,155 --> 00:33:39,115 Speaker 1: alarm went off at exactly the right moment that, deeply asleep, 516 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:43,435 Speaker 1: I still heard the newscaster introduce my pre taped morning 517 00:33:43,475 --> 00:33:47,195 Speaker 1: sportscast Now as sports Here's Keith Olderman. I sat up 518 00:33:47,315 --> 00:33:50,395 Speaker 1: in bed. Immediately I reached for some non existent script 519 00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:54,835 Speaker 1: and began to shout indecipherable nonsense. Well you know that 520 00:33:54,995 --> 00:33:57,875 Speaker 1: I still do it anyway. They didn't make me go 521 00:33:57,955 --> 00:34:00,715 Speaker 1: through the full training program back in nineteen seventy five. 522 00:34:01,155 --> 00:34:03,675 Speaker 1: I made it onto the air about ten days later. 523 00:34:04,075 --> 00:34:06,675 Speaker 1: A year later, I was the sports director, which was great, 524 00:34:06,755 --> 00:34:09,955 Speaker 1: except all ten of those senior sportscasters who were there 525 00:34:10,235 --> 00:34:12,595 Speaker 1: had graduated, and the day I got back to Ithaca 526 00:34:12,595 --> 00:34:15,795 Speaker 1: in August nineteen seventy six, the program director said, until 527 00:34:15,795 --> 00:34:18,035 Speaker 1: you find some more sportscasters, you have to do all 528 00:34:18,035 --> 00:34:21,315 Speaker 1: the sportscasts. And while I pretended that that would have 529 00:34:21,355 --> 00:34:24,675 Speaker 1: been terrible, I figured eventually I'd probably want to take 530 00:34:24,675 --> 00:34:27,235 Speaker 1: a day off from the radio station and I don't know, 531 00:34:27,315 --> 00:34:30,515 Speaker 1: maybe go to a class, or go for a meal 532 00:34:30,795 --> 00:34:33,275 Speaker 1: or something. So I put up signs in all the 533 00:34:33,275 --> 00:34:36,435 Speaker 1: freshman dorums offering a quick training program, and sure enough 534 00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:39,835 Speaker 1: I got six or seven guys who wanted to be sportscasters. 535 00:34:40,155 --> 00:34:41,915 Speaker 1: And the first thing I said to them was listen, 536 00:34:41,995 --> 00:34:46,075 Speaker 1: if you ever want to enjoy radio again, forget this, 537 00:34:46,235 --> 00:34:49,075 Speaker 1: because you'll always be thinking about how they make the sausage. 538 00:34:49,115 --> 00:34:51,315 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even enjoy sports as much as 539 00:34:51,355 --> 00:34:54,915 Speaker 1: I used to. Well, they all got cleared to go 540 00:34:55,035 --> 00:34:57,515 Speaker 1: on the air. One of them wound up as the 541 00:34:57,555 --> 00:35:00,715 Speaker 1: general manager of the radio station, and you know what, 542 00:35:00,835 --> 00:35:03,155 Speaker 1: all that got me the job as the head of 543 00:35:03,235 --> 00:35:06,035 Speaker 1: training for the entire state the next year. I did 544 00:35:06,035 --> 00:35:08,995 Speaker 1: that for two years and probably got fifty or sixty 545 00:35:08,995 --> 00:35:12,035 Speaker 1: people into the station on the air or whatever, including 546 00:35:12,075 --> 00:35:15,875 Speaker 1: one particular engineer, a techie named Ruby. He would never 547 00:35:15,875 --> 00:35:21,555 Speaker 1: answer anything else who later invented the iPod for Steve Jobs. 548 00:35:22,795 --> 00:35:25,835 Speaker 1: And I told them all the same thing, if you 549 00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:28,515 Speaker 1: want to enjoy listening to radio, get out while you 550 00:35:28,675 --> 00:35:31,635 Speaker 1: can before we teach you how to do it. Sausage 551 00:35:31,635 --> 00:35:35,235 Speaker 1: does not look that good ever again. And years later, 552 00:35:35,355 --> 00:35:40,515 Speaker 1: when WVBRFM hit kind of hard times, Ruby John Rubinstein 553 00:35:41,075 --> 00:35:44,435 Speaker 1: bought them a new transmitter tower and I paid for 554 00:35:44,475 --> 00:35:46,435 Speaker 1: most of the new studio, and I named it after 555 00:35:46,475 --> 00:35:49,035 Speaker 1: my dad. In one of my colleagues there, Glenn Cornelius, 556 00:35:50,195 --> 00:35:52,315 Speaker 1: I'm only sorry about one thing, which is that I 557 00:35:52,355 --> 00:35:55,675 Speaker 1: did not get to Warren Peter Jackson about how if 558 00:35:55,675 --> 00:35:58,675 Speaker 1: he wanted to enjoy anything ever again, he should have 559 00:35:58,675 --> 00:36:14,115 Speaker 1: gotten out on day one two. I've done all the 560 00:36:14,195 --> 00:36:17,715 Speaker 1: damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown 561 00:36:17,755 --> 00:36:19,595 Speaker 1: has come to you from our studios high top the 562 00:36:19,635 --> 00:36:22,955 Speaker 1: Sports Capsule Building in New York, around the corner from 563 00:36:22,995 --> 00:36:26,075 Speaker 1: my various doctors. Here are the credits. Most of the 564 00:36:26,155 --> 00:36:28,635 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced and performed by Brian Ray and 565 00:36:28,715 --> 00:36:32,275 Speaker 1: John Phillip Shanel. They are the Countdown Musical directors. All 566 00:36:32,395 --> 00:36:36,035 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards by John Phillip Shanel, guitars, bass and 567 00:36:36,115 --> 00:36:40,195 Speaker 1: drums by Brian Ray, produced by Tko Brothers. Other Beethoven 568 00:36:40,275 --> 00:36:42,355 Speaker 1: selections have been arranged and performed by the group No 569 00:36:42,475 --> 00:36:46,555 Speaker 1: Horns Allowed. Sports music is the Olberman theme from ESPN two, 570 00:36:46,955 --> 00:36:50,115 Speaker 1: and it was written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtesy of ESPN, Inc. 571 00:36:50,195 --> 00:36:52,995 Speaker 1: And I promise yes we will again someday have a 572 00:36:53,075 --> 00:36:57,115 Speaker 1: sports section. Musical comments by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball 573 00:36:57,155 --> 00:37:01,115 Speaker 1: stadium organist ever who accompanies me in my many singing 574 00:37:01,155 --> 00:37:04,875 Speaker 1: efforts or should those be attempts? I'll announced to day 575 00:37:04,875 --> 00:37:06,515 Speaker 1: it was my friend John Deane, and everything else was 576 00:37:06,515 --> 00:37:08,995 Speaker 1: pretty much my fault. That's countdown for this, the nine 577 00:37:09,115 --> 00:37:11,875 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy fifth day since Donald Trump's first attempted 578 00:37:11,955 --> 00:37:15,395 Speaker 1: coup against the democratically elected government of the United States, 579 00:37:16,035 --> 00:37:20,995 Speaker 1: convict him twice in one day. While we still can Yeah, 580 00:37:20,995 --> 00:37:24,355 Speaker 1: I'm upping the ante. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow, 581 00:37:24,435 --> 00:37:26,915 Speaker 1: Bolton says, the news warrants, and as my throat infection 582 00:37:27,035 --> 00:37:30,275 Speaker 1: permits till then, I'm Keith Olverman. Good morning, good afternoon, 583 00:37:30,315 --> 00:37:33,195 Speaker 1: good night, good luck. And since you have been good 584 00:37:33,315 --> 00:37:36,875 Speaker 1: enough to hear me out and to stick this out 585 00:37:36,915 --> 00:37:39,875 Speaker 1: to the end, I'm going to close with the world 586 00:37:40,155 --> 00:37:46,395 Speaker 1: premiere of the complete recording session and the unreleased takes 587 00:37:47,395 --> 00:37:50,675 Speaker 1: of You picked a fine time to leave me? You 588 00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:57,755 Speaker 1: seal wild tracks on you pick to find time to 589 00:37:57,875 --> 00:38:01,355 Speaker 1: leave me? Five four three two one. 590 00:38:03,795 --> 00:38:05,715 Speaker 2: You make time to leave me? 591 00:38:05,955 --> 00:38:11,555 Speaker 1: You seal before the counts aginst me and your plea deal. 592 00:38:12,555 --> 00:38:16,715 Speaker 1: The boss wants server de leaded? Won't he you make 593 00:38:16,755 --> 00:38:19,235 Speaker 1: the fine time to leave me? You see? 594 00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:31,435 Speaker 2: Thank you Nancy Post, you makee come on, You make divine. 595 00:38:31,115 --> 00:38:36,075 Speaker 1: Time to leave me. You seal before the countscuse me 596 00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:41,115 Speaker 1: and your plead deal. The boss wants server de lead it. 597 00:38:41,155 --> 00:38:45,955 Speaker 1: Won't he you make divine time to leave me? You see? 598 00:38:47,555 --> 00:38:56,555 Speaker 2: Thinking it's a fast you make the fine time to 599 00:38:56,795 --> 00:38:57,235 Speaker 2: leave me. 600 00:38:57,515 --> 00:39:03,115 Speaker 1: You seal before the counts ginst me and your plea deal. 601 00:39:04,315 --> 00:39:06,115 Speaker 1: The bas us wants server deleted. 602 00:39:06,195 --> 00:39:09,675 Speaker 2: Won't he you mack divine time to leave me? 603 00:39:09,875 --> 00:39:18,675 Speaker 1: You see? Thinking answer fast? One more time, a little deeper. 604 00:39:21,075 --> 00:39:23,715 Speaker 1: Can you make the fine tom to leave me? You 605 00:39:23,755 --> 00:39:30,795 Speaker 1: see before accounts against me and your pleaded The boss 606 00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:34,955 Speaker 1: wants server deleaded, won't he you? Mack the fine time 607 00:39:35,035 --> 00:39:35,555 Speaker 1: to leave me? 608 00:39:35,795 --> 00:39:40,515 Speaker 2: You see thinking I Answer Faust. 609 00:39:41,875 --> 00:39:45,835 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 610 00:39:45,995 --> 00:39:51,075 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 611 00:39:51,195 --> 00:39:53,155 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.