1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Monday. It's 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: an enormous Monday. It is so freaking huge, just like 4 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: my hands are. It's gonna take us a while to 5 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: get a handle on everything. First of all, Syria, what's 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: going on? Would you like to know about Syria America's 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: forum policy? What are the details? It's so confusing the 8 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Syrians and Isis and olt Keda and the Kurds. But 9 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: we are gonna talk a lot of Syria in the 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: first hour tonight, just to get you and I both 11 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: boned up on everything. I have an expert coming up 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: about a half hour from now. I'll do a little 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: lead up into Kim Brandan Wikert and we'll be a 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: lot smarter at the end of this first hour. Then 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: we have Medal of Honor Monday. Daniel Penny found not 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: guilty in New York City. That's freaking awesome. Of course, 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: black lives matters, upset with it, birthright citizenship emails. Fifty 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: two percent of gen Z females consider themselves feminists. We'll 19 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of fun with that. All that and 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: so much more coming up tonight on the world famous 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. Now have I ever told you about 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the time I saw a woman get body slammed? So 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: here's the deal. This is going somewhere. Just sit back. 24 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Remember when I told you I was in the Marines 25 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: and they maybe go be a cop for a while. 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: I was in the infantry, but they it's called faped. 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: You get fapped out to go. They'll grab guys from 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: infantry units and go make them do something else for 29 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: a little while. If they're shorthanded. They love, they love 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: grabbing infantry guys to go be cops, Marine Corps cops. 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: It's called the Marcials Office. I'm just gonna call it 32 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: cops for now to make it easier to understand. Obviously, 33 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: we already have the weapons training, you're gonna have a 34 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: more aggressive individual. It's just that it's a nice transition. 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: It's an easier transition. So they made me go be 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: a cop for a while. And in twenty nine Palms, California. 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: It's probably this way in many many bases, but I 38 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: can only speak for twenty nine Palms. That's where I was. 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: There was all this on base housing where if you 40 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: were married you could live there with your wife at 41 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: either a house or they had some really rundown, crappy stuff. 42 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't a great living situation, but you could live there. 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: But they also outside of the base, they had an 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: off base but on base housing, meaning you if you 45 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: drove off the base and you drove into the very 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: rundown town of twenty nine Palms, California, there was this 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: little section that obviously wasn't part of the base, but 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of halfway leased out either way. Base 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: people in their families could possibly live in this little 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: area of town, and we we had to patrol the base, 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: and that oftentimes involved leaving our base and going out 52 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: into town and patrolling that area as well. It also 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: meant we had responsibilities when it came to that area, 54 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: but we split those responsibilities, or I should say share 55 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: those responsibilities with the local sheriff. So if there was 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: anything that happened in this community outside of the base, 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: we would have to show up because it's a marine 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: problem of some kind, and the sheriffs would have to 59 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: show up because it's also civilian territory and whatnot. Aren't 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: you with me? And one night we get a call 61 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: and it's the call you don't want. There are many 62 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: calls you don't want. You know, there's a fire, there's 63 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: something like that. But this is one of those calls 64 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: where you go, oh gosh, it's we just called it 65 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a domestic but domestic dispute, domestic disturbance. Pick your label 66 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: would you want to put on it. It's the call 67 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: of there's a husband and wife and they're having some problems. 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: There are various degrees of problems. Right there's he's beating 69 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: her up and you better get over there to save 70 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: her life, or they're just shouting at each other. But 71 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: either way, someone made a call. There's a problem, and 72 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: it's at the place outside of the base. So I 73 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: happen to be in charge that night. Hop in my car, buddy, 74 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: we are heading out there, lights blazing, heading out there, 75 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: trying to see what exactly the problem is. We have 76 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: to coordinate with the local sheriff. He shows up same 77 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: time we show up, and we go into this house 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: and you can feel the tension, the hatred. This is 79 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: all gonna go somewhere. I don't care if you want 80 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: me to hurry up. I'm going somewhere with this to 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: just sit there for a second. You can feel the tension. 82 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: You walk in and you don't know any part of 83 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: their history. It was this marine. He was the marine. 84 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: His wife was Chinese. She was this low Asian Chinese woman. 85 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: Her English wasn't all that great. But you walk in, 86 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: I walk in. I've never met him, I've never met her. 87 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: The Sheriff's never met him, the sheriff's met her. We 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: don't know anything about their history. I don't know his 89 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: family history, her family history. I don't know the history 90 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: of them as a married couple. I don't know whether 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: they've had fifteen beautiful years together of laughter and love. 92 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't know whether they do heroin and they're off time. 93 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know whether they take turns punching each other 94 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: in the face. I don't know whether there's abuse going 95 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: either way. I walk in and I don't know anything 96 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: because it's not my house. It's their house. They have 97 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: lived there, they know the history. I am a stranger. 98 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: But not only am I a stranger. Not only is 99 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the sheriff who walked in with me a stranger, but 100 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: we are walking in as strangers, as people unfamiliar with 101 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: the situation, attempting to seize control of the situation. It's 102 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: not like I walked in to just say, hey, you 103 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: mind if I pull up a chair. I want to 104 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: watch you guys have it out. No, no, no, no, I'm 105 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: there to referee, maybe even arrest somebody. I'm not there 106 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: as a bystander. I'm there to stick my nose in it. 107 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: And there is a reason when you turn on the 108 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: news and you see a law enforcement officer has been 109 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: killed in the line of duty, that a large portion 110 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: of time. It's not the majority, of course, there are 111 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: different things. But if that cop was killed on purpose, 112 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: meaning it's not a car that sideswiped them when he 113 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: pulled someone over. But if that car, if that cop 114 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: was killed on purpose, there's a pretty good chance that 115 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: cop was killed at a domestic dispute because you are 116 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: stepping in to attempt to stick your nose in a 117 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: situation you don't know about, and the emotions in that 118 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: situation are as high as emotions get. Because in a home, 119 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: that's where emotions are the most extreme. It will bring 120 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: you the most happiness, but because you're close, it will 121 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: bring you the most sadness, the most anger. That's where 122 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: peak emotion is inside of the home and you the outsider, 123 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: are walking in and you're going to stick your nose 124 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: in it, and it's dan. Now, let's talk about Syria 125 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: America foreign policy. Everybody's foreign policy is a little bit different. 126 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: No one shares the same identical foreign policy because foreign 127 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: policy is complicated, and I acknowledge fully it is complicated. 128 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Syria because this could go really, 129 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: really sideways on us. You want to talk about a 130 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: domestic situation, you don't want to stick your nose in. 131 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm going to read for you something. 132 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: It's a little bit long, but this is one of 133 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: the people Lindsey Graham, Senator of South Carolina. Lindsey Graham. 134 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Maybe i'll even read it in that voice. This is 135 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: one of the people who, of course wants to get 136 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: more involved. I'm not even going to edit this for 137 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: my purposes. I'm going to read you what Lindsey Graham 138 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: wrote down, and you tell me if this seems like 139 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: a simple situation, we should definitely get involved. In quote 140 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate the air strikes against ISIS targets in Syria, 141 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: but it will not be enough. We have to ensure 142 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: that roughly fifty thousand ISIS prisoners in northeastern Syria being 143 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: primarily held by Kurdish forces, are not released. We should 144 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: not allow the Kurdish forces who helped us destroy ISIS 145 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: on President Trump's watch to be threatened by Turkey or 146 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: radical Islamists who've taken over Syria. Turkey has legitimate concerns 147 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: regarding different groups that reside in northeastern Syria, but there 148 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: is conflict between Turkey and the Syrian Democrat forces. Or 149 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: Turkey attacks Kurdish forces, it will set in motion and 150 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: ISIS jail break, which will be a nightmare for America. 151 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: The last time ISIS was in charge, thousands of Europeans 152 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: and Americans were killed by ISIS plots that originated in Syria. Furthermore, 153 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: the reemergence of ISIS creates chaos throughout the region, which 154 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: is going to lead to higher gas prices for us 155 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: at home. Turkey deserves to have a demilitarized buffer zone 156 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: between northeastern Syria and Turkey to protect Turkis interest. However, 157 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: turk It takes military actions against Kurdish forces and steered 158 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: that of Oh my gosh, I could keep going. This 159 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: is one of the people telling us to get involved. 160 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: Are your eyes glazed over? Are they rolled in the 161 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: back of your head? Yet? Did you even make even 162 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: the slightest bit of sense there? Sounds complicated, doesn't It 163 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: sounds like there's a lot of history there, a lot 164 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: of people pulling different directions. Sounds like it should be 165 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: a big old mess. So what should we do about it? Well, 166 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about that, and we'll talk about what we 167 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: are doing about it. Maybe Lindsay will chime in again. 168 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: All that, where are you gee? 169 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: And so much more coming up tonight on the world 170 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: famous Jesse Kelly Show. Before we get to that, let's 171 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: talk about something serious. You see done for your real estate. 172 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: They won't find you any properties in Syria. They vet 173 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: the properties for you to make sure they'll find only 174 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the best properties in the best markets where isis. Won't 175 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: blow up your run to home. They'll vet it for you. 176 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: They get you the financing, they handle the paperwork, they 177 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: handle the closing, they handle the rental process. You normal 178 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: person begin investing in real estate, putting your money into 179 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: hard assets. Go you want to find out what they 180 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: can do for you. Go to done for Youjesse dot Com. 181 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Probably start out with one I would assume you're just 182 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: a normal person. One becomes two, two becomes five. Soon 183 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: you're retiring consistent tax free income. You pass it down 184 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: to your children. Does that sound nice? Done for you? 185 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Jesse dot com is where you go to find out 186 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: more done for you Jesse dot Com. We'll be back 187 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. I like it returns next. It 188 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, Incredible Monday. 189 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: Remember you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow 190 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: dot com. He can leave us a voicemail eight seven 191 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: seven three seven seven four three seven three. So the 192 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: Syrian government falls, Alisade falls. Now, who are these rebels? Well, 193 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: that's complicated and I'll get into more details with Brandon 194 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: Wickert in a moment. The rebels are nightmarish. Ali Sad 195 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: was nightmarish. He has had a fifty year rule where 196 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: he's used chemical weapons on his own people. It was 197 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: really really bad. He's a terrible person. But the people 198 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: who are taking over are terrible. They're kind of an 199 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Al Qaeda Isis joint effort where those two groups have 200 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: previously hate each other. They are Sunni's soony extremists. Obviously 201 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: they're extremists and what they want is obviously not going 202 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: to be anything good, very very ugly. It's all bad. 203 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: It's all bad, everything, every part of it is ugly. 204 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, don't worry though, yo. I mean, I've read 205 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: you the whole complicated involvement that Lindsey Graham wants to do. Now, 206 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you, does this person look like he 207 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: can command and oversee such an effort? 208 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: We will help stability, resure stability in Eastern Respiria, protecting 209 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: any personnel are personnel against any threats and will remain 210 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: our mission against is supposed to be maintained, including a 211 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: security of detention facilities where ISIS fighters are being held 212 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: as prisoners. 213 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, sure, sure, sure, I wanted to address that part. 214 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: You're going to hear a lot of that. Lindsey Graham 215 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: referenced fifty thousand ISIS prisoners. I've heard the numbers, thirty thousand, 216 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Here's what you need to know. Kurds. 217 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: You're going to hear that word a lot. Kurdish forces, Kurds, Kurds, Curds. 218 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Don't oversimplify anything when it comes to this. That's complicated too. 219 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: There are Kurds who have been very friendly with US 220 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: and US friendly with them, and we've been allies to us, 221 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: and they've been allied and we've been allied with them. 222 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: That's not universal for all Kurds. However, there are Kurdish 223 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: forces residing within Syria that have been doing this with 224 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: our help. We have about nine hundred US troops helping 225 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: them do this. Remember that whole Isis war, we had 226 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: those terrible freaking demons and isis or butchering babies and 227 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: rap and everyone and doing all the lovely things that 228 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: Isis does. Well, there were a lot of captive captives. 229 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Why can't I talk today? A lot of prisoners of 230 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: war Isis people from that war? You with me? Well, 231 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: we took all these people in we'll call it fifty thousand. 232 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: They all have citizenship in one country or another, but 233 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: none of their countries will take them back. They're the 234 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: most evil, demonic people out there. And it's not only men, men, 235 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: women and even kids. And they are so radicalized, so 236 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,359 Speaker 1: twisted their own countries won't even take them back as prisoners. 237 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: So what could you do? We live in a much softer, 238 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: kinder society. I know personally, how I would handle such 239 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: a problem. But since that's not the society we live 240 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: in now, we struck a deal, everyone really struck a 241 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: deal with the Kurdish forces to essentially guard these people 242 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: as prisoners, and the Kurds with us are currently guarding 243 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: these people in Syria. Now you can see how that 244 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: would be a problem for a couple different reasons. One Turkey, 245 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: the Turks hate the Kurds, so they're not exactly going 246 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: to help. Two who just took over Syria, As I said, 247 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,119 Speaker 1: al Qaeda isis. Do you think they might be interested 248 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: in adding fifty thousand reinforcements to their number after they 249 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: just took over a country? You think they might be 250 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: invested in getting those prisoners out by any means necessary. 251 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: Of course they will, So it was just I wanted 252 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: to explain that portion of it for those who may 253 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 1: get confused when you hear people talking about the prisoners 254 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: they have. We have to mansure the prisoners. It's really 255 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: important that by any means necessary, those prisoners don't get 256 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: free again, because those are the most radicalized nutballs who 257 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: will go on to murder and rape and butcher like 258 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: they all did before. Back to our discussion, does this 259 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: person sound like he can navigate this situation. 260 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: This past few days have been historic, and you know 261 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: the day's ahead and will determine the future of this country. 262 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: We intend to approach them with strength, wisdom a result. 263 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an ugly situation, but it's also a 264 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: domestic dispute. And I do realize, this is Jeffrey Sachs 265 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. I realize we have to own a lot 266 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: of that situation there here. It is. 267 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 4: This is a US mistake that started seven years ago. 268 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 4: And I remember the day on your show when President 269 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 4: Obama said Asad must go. And I looked at you 270 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: and Joe and I said, huh, how's he going to 271 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: do that? Where's the policy for that? And we know 272 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: they sent in the CIA to overthrow Asad. The CIA 273 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: and Saudi Arabia together in covert operations, tried to overthrow Asad. 274 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: It was a disaster. Eventually, it brought in both Isis 275 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: as a splinter group to the Jihadis that went in. 276 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: It also brought in Russia. So we have been digging 277 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 4: deeper and deeper in deeper. What we should do now 278 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: is get out. 279 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: Did I mention it's a domestic dispute we helped create. 280 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: But don't worry. We're gonna get involved now and fix 281 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: the mess we helped create. Yeah, so you want to 282 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: dig into more detail with it. You want to sound 283 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: smarter than all of your friends. 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You and 312 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I know each other, so this won't be hard for you. 313 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: I want you to imagine that I have the mind 314 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: of a child. I don't know anything about Syria, and 315 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: it's so confusion with the forces and the Kurds in 316 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: al Qaeda, but Alsad is bad, and so knowing that 317 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't know squat, please explain to me and take 318 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: your time. What is happening and why should I give 319 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: a crap? 320 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So the bottom line is you should give a 321 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: crap because our intelligence services, along with Turks and I've 322 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: decided to give a bunch of money and a bunch 323 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: of guns to a guy named Mohammad Jilani who's the 324 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: head of a terrorist group called HTS, which is taken 325 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: over the country of Syria, whatever's left of it. And 326 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: Jilani was a member of Al Qaeda in Iraq. He 327 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 2: killed scores of our troops during the insurgency with IEDs 328 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: most likely, and he basically is like a comic book 329 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: villain that we're trying to now rehabilitate because we've nominated 330 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: him to be our guy to knock out the Russians 331 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: and the Iranians and Asad from Syria not realizing that 332 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: we're basically handing the country over to the next bin wive. 333 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: Okay, well, that all sounds pretty horrific. Let's pause on 334 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: that overview for a moment, and I want you to 335 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: tell me about Asad Brandon. Who is this guy? What's 336 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: his history? I understand he's not warm and cuddly either. 337 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: There aren't really aren't good guys here, But again, pretend 338 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: I'm a kid who is a sad where'd he come from? 339 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Why are we against him? Why does Russia like him? 340 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: What's going on? 341 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, it goes back to his father, Hayfez assad Haiphez 342 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: was the real brutal maniac and he took over Syria 343 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: about fifty years ago. He was a secular dictator, was 344 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: very anti Islamist. He was a Baphist like Saddam was. 345 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: In fact, he's very close with Saddam. And the Russians 346 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: have had or had naval base and an air base 347 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: in Syria since the late nineteen seventies that even after 348 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: the fall of the Berlin Wall at the Soviet Union, 349 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: they maintained and so for them. For the Russians, well, 350 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: because it gives them power projection, It gives them the 351 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: ability to move forces in and out of the eastern 352 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 2: Mediterranean Sea. And the Russians historically have wanted that. They 353 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: wanted warm water ports. They've only got four of them, 354 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: so this is one of them and they just lost it. 355 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: So that's why they support Asad. Asad was a dictator 356 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: and he was a guy that used to brutalize his 357 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: own people. But particularly and this is not reporting the press, 358 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: he was especially hard on the Sunni Arab population. Jilani 359 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: is from this population. But the reason he was so 360 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: hard was because the Muslim Brotherhood, which is sort of 361 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: the mothership of Islamic terrorism, was operating in large numbers 362 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 2: among that population, so he would hyphez would kill them 363 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: all and then his son took over in two thousand. 364 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 2: After he died, Bashar Assad and Basher continued to be 365 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: horrible to his people, But ultimately Bashar al Assad was 366 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 2: not a Jihatis. In fact, he was an anti Jihadis, 367 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: and he could have been used by US to go 368 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: after the al Qaeda types in his midst Instead, we 369 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: pushed him out and handed the country basically over to 370 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: al Qaeda. 371 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Okay, let's focus on the pushing out of Ala Sad. 372 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: How I know what just happened, But the genesis of 373 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: this why what was our particular acts to grind with him? 374 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: Was this economical? Was this Islamic terrorism? Was it his 375 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: association with Russia? With Russia, why did the geniuses in 376 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: DC decide this guy needed to go? 377 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: It had to do with his association with Russia and 378 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: the fact that Iran was partnered with him, And so 379 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: basically we were playing a game of risk. Basically, you know, 380 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: we just looked at the map and said, oh, we 381 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: want to get the Russians out of their warm water ports, 382 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: and one of them's in Syria. That's the weakest one, 383 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: and so we're gonna put pressure on a SOD to 384 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: get out of power so we can push out the 385 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: Russians and by extension to the Iranians, which actually helps. 386 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: That helps the Israelis as well, because these Israelis are 387 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: getting supplies I'm sorry, Hesbela attacking Israel is backed by Iran, 388 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: and they're getting supplies through Syria. So if you get 389 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 2: rid of a SOD in Syria, those supplies won't make 390 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: it to Hesbela, and Israel will also be safer. The 391 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: only problem is, in order to do that, you've just 392 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: handed the country over to an actual jihadist who hates Israel, 393 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: who hates America, and it's going to turn on us 394 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: eventually with our own weapons. 395 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: Okay, that all sounds really lovely. Now explain this to 396 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: me before we get to the bat well, the bad guys. 397 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I realized they're all bad guys. Before we get to 398 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: the rebels who just took over completely. The rebels who 399 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,959 Speaker 1: just took over. It's my understanding. Please correct me if 400 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm wrong that this is kind of a collab between 401 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: out Qaeda and ISIS. Now, I do know enough to 402 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: know that those two are not exactly best. Why are 403 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: they collabing? How did that happen? 404 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: Well, they're collabing because ultimately they're all Islamists and they 405 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: all want the same thing. They want the restoration of 406 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: the ancient Califate that collapse at the end of the 407 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: First World War when the Ottoman Empire collapsed. It's why 408 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: they've also aligned with the Turks, because the Turks are 409 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: giving them money and weapons and intelligence and even some 410 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: leadership on the battlefield in exchange for pushing Islam's flag forward, 411 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: creating a new Islamic state in Syria. These are things 412 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: that all of those groups want, and so that's why 413 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: suddenly these ISIS and al Qaeda types are working together. 414 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: They have a shared interest. They want territory in Syria 415 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: and they want a new base to go basically to 416 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: go ham on the rest of the region in the world. 417 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Okay, now, Turkey, tell me about their interests. Why would 418 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: Turkey be supportive of a radical jihadist organization taking over 419 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: a country on its border that generally doesn't go well well. 420 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: So the Turks are at war with an ethnic group 421 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: in their country that also lives in northern Syria and 422 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: northern Iraq, called the Kurds. We have supported the Kurds 423 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: for decades. They're the largest stateless population in the world, 424 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: and so the Turks want to destroy them. They're threatened 425 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: by them. More importantly, Airdiwan, the president of Turkey, believes 426 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: he's the next sultan of a new Ottoman Empire, and 427 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 2: so he's doing this to go after the Kurds. But 428 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: also he's using Jihati groups because he thinks crazy. It's crazy. 429 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: He thinks he can control the Jihadis. Well. He doesn't 430 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: realize is that the Jihadas are going to turn on 431 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: him as soon as they get what they want in 432 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: Syria because they're not going to be wanting to be 433 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: led by an ethnic Turk anymore. They want to be 434 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: led by ethnic Persians from Iran. And so that's what's 435 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: going on with the Turkey element. He's trying to rebuild 436 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: the Ottoman Empire with himself and Turkey as the head 437 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: of it. 438 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Now you say Turkey has wanted to destroy the Curds. 439 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: He has Curds in his own country as Kurds in 440 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: northern Syria bordering his country. I got all that, But 441 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Turkey has, unless I'm mistaken, they have the largest military 442 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: in Europe I believe. How have they not been able 443 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: to destroy the Curds with the largest military in Europe. 444 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: Well, because it's the same reason we haven't been able 445 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: to destroy Al Kaina or Isis with the largest military 446 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: in the world. These are very wily fighters. We're also 447 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: supporting the Curves. And also the Turks have been afraid 448 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: if they go totally, you know, genocidal against the Curds, 449 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: that the Americans and the Europeans will step in and 450 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: go against Turkey. And that's not something that Turkey really 451 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 2: wants to deal with. So there's that issue. But it's 452 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: hard to destroy. I mean, you were in the military, 453 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: you know this is very difficult to go after gorilla fighters. 454 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: They're just a very difficult kind of warfare. And Turkey 455 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: is a modern military force like ours, and modern military 456 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: forces have trouble rooting out these large, kind of asymmetrical 457 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: threats such as the Kurds. 458 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly do, Brandon, I hate to ask I 459 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: should have asked you before him. But we haven't even 460 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: got to the rebels. Why Israel's amassing troops on the 461 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Golden Heights, what the acts to grind is with Saudi Abia. 462 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: This is a long way of me asking you, do 463 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: you have another quick segment for me to go over, 464 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: just a couple of these things to make us smarter 465 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: as we can brag to our friends. Sure, sure, okay, 466 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: we will be right back with Brandon Wikert making all 467 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: of us more more intelligent when it comes to Syria. 468 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: And of course the reason you want to be more 469 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: intelligent is so you can rub it in the face 470 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: of friends and family that you are smarter than they are. 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But israel I saw 497 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: today in response to all this is starting to take 498 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: the high ground of the goal and heights. 499 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: For what reason, Well, because they know that first of all, 500 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: they just well, we just handed over Syria to an 501 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: Islamis that probably wants to annihilate the Israelis as much 502 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: as the Iranians and assad did. So it's not really 503 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 2: a win for them, and so they need to kind 504 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: of project power deeper into Syria before Jilani can solidify 505 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: his hold over the territory. Then, of course you've also 506 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: got the added issue of they're trying in Israel to 507 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: break those supply chains linking Iran with Hezbolah in neighboring Lebanon, 508 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: and so in order to ensure that those supply lines 509 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: are never restored and that Hesbola can't basically grow beyond 510 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: Lebanon into stateless Syria, they want to have a permanent 511 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: blocking position there. They're also talking, and I think this 512 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: is probably a bridge too far, but they're also talking 513 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: about aligning their interests with the Druze population in southwestern 514 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: Syria and then creating a quote quote freedom corridor connecting 515 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: southwest Syria controlled by Israel with US controlled Kurdish elements 516 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: in eastern Syria to try to create a Kurdish Druze 517 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: federation backed by US and Israeli forces to counteract the 518 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: obvious threat that this Jihatis controlled Theria will. 519 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: Be Okay, you said that's a bridge too far. 520 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: Why, well, the Israeli military is already stretched, it is gone. 521 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: It is incredible what they've been able to do a 522 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: very small military. It's incredible what they've been able to do, 523 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: going on against Gaza in the south, going after Hamas, 524 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: to contain Fatime the West Bank. At the same time 525 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: basically starting a major conflict between itself and Hesblah in 526 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 2: the north. This is a multi, multi front war and 527 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: now they're opening up another front in Syria. So this 528 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: is they're stretching themselves to their breaking point. 529 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: Okay, again speaking with Brandon Weiker teaching us about this stuff. Now, Brandon, sorry, 530 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to merge these worlds for me too. 531 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: Why would a pipeline continue to Hesbalah, which is obviously 532 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: a proxy of Iran when these are all Sheite groups 533 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: and you just got done telling us that it was 534 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: a soon a bunch of radicals that just took go 535 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: over Syria and soon He'es and she Heites don't exactly 536 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: get along. 537 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: No, no, well, this is why Israel is setting up 538 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: a permanent shop there. It's to basically ensure that there's 539 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 2: no bleedover between say Hesbola looking for a new territory 540 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: to basically call its own in stateless Syria. So they're 541 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: trying to basically create like a wall of troops and 542 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: air power and artillery that will basically now that Hesbal 543 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: hasn't cut off from those supply chains from Iran, they're 544 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: now going to squeeze Lebanon from every direction. 545 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, you mentioned stateless Syria. That's one thing. As we've 546 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: seen many times in history, it's one thing to win 547 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: a war and take over a country. It's another thing 548 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: entirely to keep it in governance. I can't imagine a 549 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: joint Isis al Kaeda effort has a robust plan to 550 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: pave the roads and build schools, But what do we 551 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: know about how established these guys are going to be 552 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: anything yet. 553 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: No, but if there's anything from history as a guide, 554 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: they will turn on each other and that will create 555 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: as many problems then as just a new Jihati controlled 556 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: Syria would cout for us. Either way you look at it, 557 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: it's going to be a new breeding ground for Islamic 558 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: militancy directed against the United States Israel and it's allies, 559 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, say, Afghanistan or even Iraq. Syria is 560 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 2: now in a long land border with Israel, which means 561 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: that Israel is really going to have to always be 562 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: on God. 563 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: Okay, now, explain to me what we want done with 564 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: the I've heard thirty thousand. I've heard it's fifty thousand. 565 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of Isis prisoners the Kurds have. 566 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Why haven't we just killed them? 567 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: Well, that's a question that I keep asking. I don't 568 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: understand why there's even this. I get because the argument 569 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: is that, oh, well there's some innocent people of political 570 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: prisoners and whatnot that are actually pro West. But ultimately 571 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 2: we are talking about basically opening up Arkham Asylum and 572 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: Batman and letting all the bad villains out. We should 573 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: just bomb those facilities before they can be opened up 574 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: and those bad guys can be released into the wild. 575 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Okay, finally I'm going to let you go. 576 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: I swear after this one. Saudi Arabia, I'm told that 577 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: this new regime, I hope it doesn't turn out to 578 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: be a regime. The victorious rebels have a real axe 579 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: to grind with the House of Sad. What's their problem again, 580 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: they're all Sunnis. 581 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: Well no, but ultimately remember it's the same problem that 582 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: bin Laden had. They believe the House of Sod is apostate, 583 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: that they are too close to the Americans and the 584 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: Jews and the Europeans the Christians to be of any 585 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 2: help to the gram Gihad. So they want to overthrow 586 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 2: that in order to ensure that Saudi Arabia, the land 587 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: of Mecca and Medina where Mohammad is from, will be 588 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: pure Islam and they can basically create the truly pan 589 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: Islamic Caliate based there, as opposed to justin Syria or Afghanistan. 590 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: I assume the Christian population of Syria's in some serious 591 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: trouble now, and I don't assume there are any Jews 592 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: left in that country. 593 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Correct, I would say both is very true. 594 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, that's what I thought. Brendon Weiker, thank you 595 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: so much, my brother. 596 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: Thats there. 597 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: I have so much more knowledge now, and I already 598 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: had this gargantuan amount of what Chris. I had this 599 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: huge amount of knowledge, maybe the most knowledgeable person ever, 600 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: And now that I just got all this information from Brandon. Now, 601 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm a super genius. Look but now look that was 602 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: two segments. A little complicated, isn't it. There's a bit 603 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: going on, right. It took two segments just to hash out, Okay, 604 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: what's the new regime, what's Turkey's involvement, what's Israel doing? 605 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Why are they doing it? Iran's involved here, you have 606 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: Hezbollah involved here, you have Saudi Arabia involved here. And 607 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: this is why I mean you hear things like this, 608 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: and what. 609 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 3: The new constitution, new governess serves all series. This process 610 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: to be determined by the Syrian people themselves. In the 611 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: United States will do whatever we can to support them, 612 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: including through rumaniitarian relief, help restore Shiria after more than 613 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: a decade of war. 614 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: A new constitution that'll be determined by the Syrian people. 615 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: The country was just taken taken over by by al Qaeda, 616 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 1: Isis inc. They're not interested in an American drafted constitution. 617 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: So why do we do this do it all the time. Well, 618 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons for it. 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