Speaker 1: R and B Money.
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine.
Speaker 3: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority
Speaker 3: on all things R and B.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, my guy can do all things. You better
Speaker 1: be able to play? You better be able to play
Speaker 1: it all things? Can you write it? Can write? Can
Speaker 1: you produce it? All things? Can you dj? Can you
Speaker 1: perform it? All things?
Speaker 3: Your guy's not better than my guy because my guys,
Speaker 3: my guy Mars Max.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing.
Speaker 3: Truly gifted, true And what's crazy is that? Hold on,
Speaker 3: how did you get the name my guy Mars? Okay,
Speaker 3: so it started with Mars. My name is Lamar.
Speaker 4: So I've always been known to do things different than
Speaker 4: most people or if you know, with our production company
Speaker 4: or you know our band, and like, yo, let's try
Speaker 4: it this way. I'm like, let's try it the left way,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. So it was always
Speaker 4: me doing that. So that kind of came like you
Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna call you, Mars. You always You're
Speaker 4: just not on this world.
Speaker 1: My homegirl. Tavia from the IVY she was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you Mars.
Speaker 4: You always just going against everything that, Like, I like that,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So I just start it
Speaker 4: was just Mars and the my guy thing came from
Speaker 4: Tyresse believe it or not.
Speaker 1: My guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like under the dark days, you know whatever, whatever,
Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, it just kind of happened like that.
Speaker 3: I feel like my guy is organic to you period.
Speaker 3: Like anytime somebody says, you know, Mars, what's my guy,
Speaker 3: it followed, it follows Nigga, that's my guy. And that's
Speaker 3: like universal right where everybody says, that's my guy.
Speaker 1: And that's hard to have.
Speaker 3: In this industry and in these streets where everybody has
Speaker 3: that kind of reverence people with how dope of a
Speaker 3: guy you are.
Speaker 1: People really really fun with you.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's amazing.
Speaker 4: I mean, outside of like saying it and endorsing it,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, I think that's one
Speaker 4: of the main things too, like being known for you know,
Speaker 4: saying it like.
Speaker 1: In the sentiment of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Man, I think that kind of like plays a lot
Speaker 4: into just the name. But it's like more of like
Speaker 4: the experience like what I what I represent Absolutely absolutely,
Speaker 4: I haven't met anyone who's had a bad experience with you.
Speaker 1: There it is. That's that's really sure I have.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's somebody out there that can't wait to
Speaker 4: comment in the comedy.
Speaker 1: Nah see, I'm telling you that nigga, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to address it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will address you because this is our guy.
Speaker 1: Mars.
Speaker 3: You do everything bro almost like you're like you're as
Speaker 3: Jay likes to say, you're a real Swiss army knife
Speaker 3: that part man. In the rooms you've been in that
Speaker 3: you've been creative in your input has been necessary. As
Speaker 3: you say, you have this thing where you're able to
Speaker 3: see something completely different than what everybody else is saying. Right,
Speaker 3: and your discography reflects that.
Speaker 1: I can hear it.
Speaker 4: I know left when I hear it, no facts, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I know I know when a
Speaker 4: nigga is not right in his mind, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Making something like why would he?
Speaker 2: That's what makes you stand out in music though, honestly
Speaker 2: and being able to stand on that ledge sometimes because
Speaker 2: you know it's easy for niggas to be like, man,
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that, and now I don't fuck
Speaker 2: with him because this ship is too you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: But you're well versed in what you do as well.
Speaker 2: It's not like you're just some guy who's just Since
Speaker 2: everybody is saying this, I just want to say something different.
Speaker 1: No, I actually can break it down to you right exactly.
Speaker 2: I have the information exactly because everybody don't got the information.
Speaker 2: And to get the information, you got to do time
Speaker 2: in this ship.
Speaker 4: And that's yeah, I think that's the important part. I
Speaker 4: think that's something that isn't as present, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying nowadays because a lot of people h you
Speaker 4: can fast track your.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and tell them that they take a shortcut.
Speaker 4: You fast tracked your way to success nowadays, and it
Speaker 4: was like, I'll literally he was privileged enough. And that's
Speaker 4: why I think this is like, this is amazing and
Speaker 4: beautiful because it's like I was influenced by and have
Speaker 4: been influenced by both of you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: in different ways. And I also have been able to
Speaker 4: work and see you work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like back then, if I was just talking
Speaker 4: about this earlier.
Speaker 1: If you wasn't in the room, you didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on in the room. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We didn't have the phone, and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: All of that ship it was like your nigga would
Speaker 2: put pull out a camera back in the days.
Speaker 1: And Michael.
Speaker 3: Fast Quincy in this joint, Quincy right there, Quincy Jones here,
Speaker 3: he's scoring ship.
Speaker 1: It's like hard ship and nigger Mike Leig, Mike.
Speaker 3: Something, mess with your nose, man. Your nose is spine.
Speaker 3: Everybody tell Michael's knows the spine, Like that's how we
Speaker 3: live in a while, That's what's going on now.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And it distracts, you know, the process as well as
Speaker 4: just like you know, you just don't get the same education.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I got to see the education.
Speaker 4: I got to see you guys writing the songs. I
Speaker 4: got to see Harvey vocal producer. I got to see
Speaker 4: Damon doing shit. I got to see everything, like how
Speaker 4: the greatest songs that people love are made and the
Speaker 4: songs that I grew up listening to are made. And
Speaker 4: you know, being a church musician being somebody that's told
Speaker 4: coming into the industry, you can't do this, you can't
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 1: I was doing all the left shit. I was, and
Speaker 1: the left ship really is just like.
Speaker 4: Your experience, like your character who you are, church gangster shit,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And it's like I ain't
Speaker 4: a gang member, but it's like being around niggas that
Speaker 4: you know, I.
Speaker 1: Can tell their stories musically.
Speaker 4: That's how you you know, being able to create a
Speaker 4: sound for Nipsey or be able to be the only
Speaker 4: producer that Nipsey would endorse or the only production company
Speaker 4: that Nipsey would endorse. All the music had to come
Speaker 4: through us, you know what I'm saying, because we understand
Speaker 4: the experience, we understand who the artist is, we know
Speaker 4: how to convey it, and there may be something that
Speaker 4: gravitates to him or something that he likes about the beat.
Speaker 4: But it's like, how can we put it into you know,
Speaker 4: our turns? How can it be in La on Crenshaw?
Speaker 4: How can it sound like it looked? You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I think that was the dope thing
Speaker 4: that I got to see from y'all. It was like
Speaker 4: the experience and then I was able to take that
Speaker 4: and practice that and have it take you down. And
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, all these different moments that
Speaker 4: I'm practicing and like witnessing this ship in real time,
Speaker 4: and that's that's the experience and the ship that I, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, advocate. Now it's like for people to really
Speaker 4: educate themselves. Now we got YouTube. You can literally go
Speaker 4: look at a thousand videos on there's no reason not
Speaker 4: to have, you know, any type of education on any subject.
Speaker 1: For that.
Speaker 2: Man, let's let's talk about that there. Let's let's let's
Speaker 2: go back right. Let's let's go back to South Central.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to LA in the beginning for you,
Speaker 2: you know, as Tank says, you know when someone or
Speaker 2: when you yourself identified that you were going to be
Speaker 2: special in this thing and this is something that you
Speaker 2: wanted to do with your life, because this isn't always
Speaker 2: everybody's choice, especially when you're a little kid. And I've
Speaker 2: known you a long time. You've always been in music.
Speaker 2: It's been years, you know what I mean. Like you've
Speaker 2: done your ten thousand hours two or three times. You know,
Speaker 2: you've done it, you know what I mean? So you know,
Speaker 2: can you give us, you know, just a rundown of
Speaker 2: growing up in la growing up in the church, and
Speaker 2: then what y'all grew up around this whole time.
Speaker 4: My experience of church was different because my dad was
Speaker 4: like the nigga and gospel.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, you know, he was the person
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, I see a lot of
Speaker 4: him and myself now, you know what I'm saying looking back,
Speaker 4: But yeah, he like you know, had the album, started
Speaker 4: a record company with my name in the nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: But he was the only person that was like bringing Thomas.
Speaker 4: Whitfield out here, bringing John p Key, bringing uh Fred Hammond,
Speaker 4: bringing you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was cool with all of these people.
Speaker 4: He was the only person on Maddy Moss Clark album
Speaker 4: that wrote a song like she she.
Speaker 1: Writes all her music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: She loved my dad so much she took his song,
Speaker 4: took him under, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this was like a whole thing.
Speaker 4: Clifton Netwards, Clifton Edwards, junr So and I've just seen
Speaker 4: Uncle Charlie and he's like.
Speaker 1: Man, I know who you want to clift the son.
Speaker 4: So it's crazy because people know me in that world
Speaker 4: from that. But growing up, it was like I ain't
Speaker 4: know what who, none of them niggas was. I just
Speaker 4: know I'm in church and this sounds crazy, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like this, like I grew up around. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it wasn't like a regular.
Speaker 1: Level.
Speaker 4: And they're doing constant your dad's church. This is my grandfather's.
Speaker 4: My dad was, you know, working their minister music doing
Speaker 4: you know, all of that and doing concerts and stuff.
Speaker 4: So how I met Warren was my cousin, Dwan David
Speaker 4: Grimico Warren.
Speaker 1: We're in the group.
Speaker 4: So's the Zion and they my dad like let them,
Speaker 4: you know, perform at the church.
Speaker 1: So that was like they first you know, the Johnson sisters,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's hard like no them moving on. But this
Speaker 4: was my four years old five years old, you know,
Speaker 4: being in production. Yeah, and I'm like what is going on?
Speaker 4: So I'm just around the drums every day, like I
Speaker 4: just know I want to be a part of something
Speaker 4: over here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I started being around the drums, start playing the drums,
Speaker 4: around like four or five.
Speaker 1: I started, I could, you know, play the drums standing
Speaker 1: up whatever? Carry service.
Speaker 4: Then my dad did another live recording, uh around like
Speaker 4: ten or eleven, my first live recording. I want my
Speaker 4: son to play, you know what I'm saying. So all
Speaker 4: the pressure on me. I'm like, okay, cool, I play.
Speaker 4: Do the live recording. Then somebody donates the organ to
Speaker 4: the church that Sunday, I'm playing the drums.
Speaker 1: My dad is like, lamar, get on the organ. You
Speaker 1: never played, never played the organ ever. I played the piano, literally,
Speaker 1: because that is a very different instrument. Yeah, like sister
Speaker 1: Fanny donated the organ. Get on the organ? Like what
Speaker 1: So I go on the organ and he just starts.
Speaker 4: Singing, start following.
Speaker 1: No, I did not, no, no, I was sweating.
Speaker 4: I was like, what, I'm looking at drawbars and it's
Speaker 4: two different kid.
Speaker 1: Did you feel arms come across your shoulders?
Speaker 4: There was none of that was over there and the
Speaker 4: orion was all the way over here. And to add
Speaker 4: insult to injury, my dad, thinking he's helping, is calling
Speaker 4: out all the things I should play.
Speaker 1: So you're telling, you're telling the audience in the church.
Speaker 4: Church, I don't know what I'm doing while I'm figuring
Speaker 4: out that I don't know what I'm doing, and then
Speaker 4: gonna make me play.
Speaker 1: The song like e flat No, that's flat e flat
Speaker 1: major okay, yep, man two F minor. Like he doing
Speaker 1: that through the whole song. He instead of just going
Speaker 1: over there playing in itself. I hold the mic like
Speaker 1: with service. That's a different school. That's every day.
Speaker 4: I went to the church and I practiced the organ,
Speaker 4: and it's my favorite instrument now. But that was like
Speaker 4: the first time I played, so you know, by that
Speaker 4: time I had figured out, Okay, I got a drum set,
Speaker 4: I got keys, and it's an organ at the church.
Speaker 4: So every Christmas and Birthday I ask for a different instrument.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I start learning how to
Speaker 4: play everything else. But once I got to the point
Speaker 4: of making beats, it was on accident. Somebody else donated
Speaker 4: the keyboard to my to the church.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the donation.
Speaker 4: My dad's friend, Ron Thomas. Shout out to Ron Thomas.
Speaker 4: So he donates the Trinity to the church. Come on, Trinity,
Speaker 4: I'm playing in Trinity. I'm in the vibe now, I'm
Speaker 4: playing keys. Me and my cousin are my rest in peace.
Speaker 4: It's it's a two band, but it sounds like it's
Speaker 4: four or five of us, Like I'm playing. I got
Speaker 4: to figure it out now. One day I'm at the
Speaker 4: church and I accidentally pressed the record button like the
Speaker 4: sequence button, and it just went to a whole nother
Speaker 4: screen and I was like, oh, shoot, like I don't
Speaker 4: know you know what I'm saying. I ain't know how
Speaker 4: to get back or nothing. So I'm just like trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out. And that's how I start like
Speaker 4: learning how to make beats. And it was never like
Speaker 4: let me do what I'm thinking. It was like, all right,
Speaker 4: let me see if I can do something like like
Speaker 4: the radio. So I'm practicing crush on you, but I
Speaker 4: practice crush on you until I get it like immaculate,
Speaker 4: like exactly like sounds at the church.
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're practicing crush on you at the church.
Speaker 4: I'm practicing the music crush trying to figure what you.
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't play play offer had a girl
Speaker 1: friend or something and did a little shout out like
Speaker 1: so anxious my dad keep it church, like how you
Speaker 1: know what it is? Then I'm playing. I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be getting white.
Speaker 4: Was supposed to know now ye man my head, yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: lose my train you started sequencing.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was crush on you. Yeah, so boom.
Speaker 4: I finally get it, dope, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 4: before service, I'm like having my homies coming around.
Speaker 1: Like all right, look tell me what this is.
Speaker 4: Boom boom or then I started asking them what what
Speaker 4: beat should I make? You know, So that's kind of
Speaker 4: how I start like making beats. But I never really
Speaker 4: thought about like making beats for artists. I never thought
Speaker 4: about producing like my own nothing. I just I was
Speaker 4: just making music. And after I after I graduated. I
Speaker 4: graduated high school earlier, my dad was very adamant about
Speaker 4: giving me out the house.
Speaker 1: So he's like.
Speaker 4: His his thing was like when we wear the same size,
Speaker 4: one of us got to go.
Speaker 2: So he was like, wow, yeah, so my son my
Speaker 2: side damn to kick him out, kick him out.
Speaker 4: Finish to the rules of why graduated early, I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 4: when we had independent study, this is like I don't
Speaker 4: even want to go into the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But the short version is my dad low Keith thought
Speaker 1: I was special because the teachers will.
Speaker 4: Always say Lamar's. Lamar is so bright and he always
Speaker 4: does great on all of his work. But he's always
Speaker 4: like beating and doing stuff in class. And like in
Speaker 4: my head, we didn't have no voice recorders, we had
Speaker 4: no phones, no voice memos, none of that. So I
Speaker 4: always have beats that I heard and try to like
Speaker 4: do the beat from first, yeriod, remember second, all the
Speaker 4: way until I got to the church. Then when I
Speaker 4: get to the church, I can record the b but nobody.
Speaker 4: I can't explain that to you, back to your parents,
Speaker 4: they have it like a rubbers So I'm like, I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know, just going through this, and then I go through,
Speaker 4: you know, the whole thing where I'm sitting in a
Speaker 4: class with you know, people with hilm it's and all kinds,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I know I'm not supposed to be here,
Speaker 4: but you know, then it.
Speaker 2: Gets He was in the class television him and Robert
Speaker 2: glasspoo I was watching home alone.
Speaker 1: Man. Man, these schools don't know.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: It was a crazy experience, bro, And I mean it
Speaker 4: didn't last long because my mom, Thank God for my mom,
Speaker 4: a praying mom and a wonderful my mom is the best.
Speaker 4: Like I probably wouldn't be alive if get myself out
Speaker 4: this little TV because she's like, if you don't get yeah.
Speaker 4: So you know, later I went on independent study, go
Speaker 4: on to independent study, and Nissan caused me to go
Speaker 4: out for.
Speaker 1: Aliyah the Nissan. Yeah. I was like sixteen and I
Speaker 1: freaking love.
Speaker 4: I was like crazy about it, and my dad was
Speaker 4: My dad already knew, so he like talked to like yeah,
Speaker 4: and Lamar got to finish his school like he can't,
Speaker 4: you know, boom boom, boom boom. So I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: so doing doing you know, doing my school work.
Speaker 1: Boom boom.
Speaker 4: Then I'm about to finish graduating. Of course, the tragic
Speaker 4: thing happened, and I'm like low key mad at my
Speaker 4: high key mad at my dad, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I like really was like dang,
Speaker 4: like I just want to make music, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying like that, because that was the only thing
Speaker 4: that was like would take me away from every I
Speaker 4: had a keyboard in my room. I'll just be in
Speaker 4: there all day long, just playing calling homies, Hey, what's
Speaker 4: this core?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it was no Instagram.
Speaker 4: It was very like experimental, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So saying all that to say when I when I graduated,
Speaker 4: I finished school early and I moved. I was in Lancaster,
Speaker 4: so we moved from Inglewood ninety second event that's to Lancaster,
Speaker 4: finished school out there, did school out there, and then
Speaker 4: I came back out here to North Hollywood. Met this
Speaker 4: lady at the bank the first day I set up
Speaker 4: my bank account.
Speaker 1: She was trying to hit on me. I found out
Speaker 1: later as I got older, but she.
Speaker 4: Was you know, oh, where are you going to do?
Speaker 4: Boom on story short. Yeah, I got a studio across
Speaker 4: the street. I'm like, all right, cool, she had a studio.
Speaker 4: She had a studio. Her and her husband owned it.
Speaker 4: So she's like, yeah, come come to the studio. I
Speaker 4: have one producer there, but you know she's kind of
Speaker 4: hardly there or whatever whatever. The producer ends up being
Speaker 4: d Smock's cousin, which I don't know at the time.
Speaker 1: See no, So I get to the studio, they got
Speaker 1: all this shit in there.
Speaker 4: I lose my shit. I just start going crazy. Just
Speaker 4: she like, oh yeah, she called her husband boo. All right,
Speaker 4: So look, if you can get us fifteen beats like
Speaker 4: a year, or like a beat a month, then you
Speaker 4: can have the studio for free. This is like the
Speaker 4: I just met this lady. So I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 4: she give me the keys. I go in the studio
Speaker 4: that night. I make the fifteen beats that night, Bernie
Speaker 4: on CD.
Speaker 1: This is what CD is. I made.
Speaker 4: I think it was like eighteen burning CD. Gave it
Speaker 4: to her Boom. Now I'm in Now, I'm in the studio.
Speaker 4: It's yours, my studio. Me and see no, you know,
Speaker 4: shared it like he'll be in there every now and again.
Speaker 4: But I was in there like pretty much all the time.
Speaker 4: This is where the weed and all the ship comes
Speaker 4: in because the homies start coming through.
Speaker 1: You know. I got my own studio in here, just
Speaker 1: making me you fresh out eyes. I'm seventeen, are you
Speaker 1: ain't even eighteen years?
Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen. So I'm staying up the street by that Denny's.
Speaker 4: I was signed to Warn exactly. I was signed to
Speaker 4: Warren to my block so we would go out. Uh
Speaker 4: well this was later later I got signed to Warren,
Speaker 4: but before Fever is right around the corner, right, so
Speaker 4: my apartment is right there.
Speaker 1: By the day.
Speaker 2: Are you a church musician at this point, Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: playing in the church. That's how that's how you surviving.
Speaker 4: I'm playing in the church from all the whole time.
Speaker 4: Like once I started getting paid, it was probably around
Speaker 4: like fifteen sixteen or something like that.
Speaker 1: You're making at the church.
Speaker 4: My dad was paying me, like at first, you know,
Speaker 4: it was like, we give you like seventy five dollars,
Speaker 4: you know, didn't get one hundred dollars. And then I
Speaker 4: know he was getting seventy five dollars. Then my uncle
Speaker 4: it was like, yo, you mind if I take Lamar
Speaker 4: to this church down the street before church. It's only
Speaker 4: for like, you know, an hour. So you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you can go whatever whatever. So I go and do
Speaker 4: the church gig. They paying me one hundred dollars. I'll
Speaker 4: come back and talk to the pastor, which is my dad.
Speaker 4: My guy, my god, my guys paying guys.
Speaker 1: They paying the five. I need the five. He ain't
Speaker 1: trying to pay the five, My god, what are you doing?
Speaker 4: So that's how you know, start getting leveraged and then negotiations. Yeah,
Speaker 4: now obviously other pastors would come and you know preaching, man.
Speaker 1: Your son is yeah, he could come play at my church.
Speaker 1: I'll give him three fifty.
Speaker 4: I'm hearing the conversations like oh, I'm seeing my value,
Speaker 4: like oh this is okay, Like you know, so when
Speaker 4: I move out.
Speaker 1: It was one of those pastors that was like uh
Speaker 1: that I had a church that was like yo, man,
Speaker 1: you know you move boom boom. Hit him up.
Speaker 4: So now I'm making like I think I think he
Speaker 4: was giving me like six hundred a week. What And
Speaker 4: like my rent was, he is so jealous right now,
Speaker 4: my rent, I'm well, it was like it was it
Speaker 4: was like he's too.
Speaker 1: It was two fifty of service.
Speaker 4: We did two services on that Sunday and then I
Speaker 4: had to go like play praise and worship for like ten.
Speaker 1: Minutes for like one hundred and fifty dollars or something
Speaker 1: like that. I never church.
Speaker 3: I never got more than one hundred and fifty for
Speaker 3: us for an entire Sunday.
Speaker 1: These were different times though, to Tanks.
Speaker 3: It's the same Jesus, We'll see what.
Speaker 1: I want to do it do it.
Speaker 2: I knew guys from the church, but I never I
Speaker 2: never seen it from a California since right because the
Speaker 2: Bay Area church is different than the La Church. Our
Speaker 2: churches is different, you know, like it's it's not like
Speaker 2: you don't really do both in the Bay, either your
Speaker 2: street nigga or your church nigga. You're not a church
Speaker 2: street nigga in the Bay. In l A, it mixes,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like literally it mixes. Where
Speaker 2: It's like they was on they were fresh on the
Speaker 2: block to now playing in the church. We don't got
Speaker 2: no gangster musicians, not for us. I never knew them now,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure some niggas gonna be.
Speaker 1: In the common like nigga I've been in the hood. Organ. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're confirming everything, confirming the same thing. For me.
Speaker 3: That was the first time I saw when I came
Speaker 3: to La Yeah, I was like, I was like that
Speaker 3: nigga Robs Banks and he can play.
Speaker 2: But it really is something different out here though, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So you know, please tell a story, bro,
Speaker 2: like how did y'all get to the Edmunds Building? How
Speaker 2: did y'all get to the Edmunds Building?
Speaker 1: Uh? Honestly, Like.
Speaker 4: To be truthful, Damon really took a liking to me
Speaker 4: and and.
Speaker 1: Like the production and the stuff that I was doing
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 4: It was I was a little I've always been more musical,
Speaker 4: but at that time, like I told you, there was
Speaker 4: a lot of people that were telling me, you know,
Speaker 4: when you produce, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You can't you know what I'm saying. So what were
Speaker 1: they tell you not to do? I mean, like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I was signed a warn right and like he
Speaker 1: he was basically telling me, like all the ship that
Speaker 1: I was doing was fire, but I have to find
Speaker 1: a way to make it fit.
Speaker 4: I didn't know what that meant at that time, so
Speaker 4: I just equated that as don't do that ship gotcha.
Speaker 4: So it was like, all right, let me do something
Speaker 4: that's safe and you know whatever around here. And I
Speaker 4: was doing whatever I wanted with joy, like as far
Speaker 4: as not physically. And those songs were the songs that
Speaker 4: everybody was loving. Like I did a song called Energy
Speaker 4: Kerry Hilson, like all these it was just songs we
Speaker 4: were doing that. Everybody was like, yo, this sounds crazy.
Speaker 4: So Damon was hearing, you know, everybody was hearing these
Speaker 4: songs like and he was like, yo, I really love
Speaker 4: like you know what you're doing, like like the musical
Speaker 4: you know, Damon?
Speaker 2: So he s you know, Damon has an amazing eye
Speaker 2: for talent, amazing eye for talent here, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean and understanding like who's next?
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, like he's he's special
Speaker 1: in that space. Yeah, so you know for him to
Speaker 1: you know, So do you meet Damon before you met Tyres?
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm at I'm at Tyree's first, okay.
Speaker 2: And then so is how you got to the building there? Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 4: And we were kind of just like you know, of
Speaker 4: course we got the same parking lot.
Speaker 1: Mike is banging on me every day, you know, the
Speaker 1: security guard. Are you here to were you here to
Speaker 1: see him? Mikes me again.
Speaker 4: So, you know, as I'm going on the second flace,
Speaker 4: you know, naturally, sometimes I see tanks, sometimes I see Eric,
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm like, I don't want to say nothing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I like, nig love, I
Speaker 1: know what to do. I was like, what am I
Speaker 1: doing with my hands? I was like, fuck it.
Speaker 4: We're just going in the room doing the ship. And
Speaker 4: one day I think I seen Hi Damon and we
Speaker 4: were talking outside and he was like, oh, yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: you know, ain't you boom boom, and Warren and Da
Speaker 4: Da Da, and you know what I'm saying, Like, you
Speaker 4: know the conversation, He's like, man, you know, come up
Speaker 4: to the floor.
Speaker 1: So we came up to the floor. What I didn't
Speaker 1: know was that you had to sign some ship and
Speaker 1: or be signed. I didn't know that either.
Speaker 4: When I came there, but y'all niggas was already a
Speaker 4: part of It's like.
Speaker 1: For new niggas.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, nigga, you gotta when you come up here,
Speaker 4: you gotta sign some ship. When you come on the floor, nigga,
Speaker 4: before you you're not seeing it's a door that's closed.
Speaker 1: You don't know what's behind the door.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a desk. It's a nice young lady
Speaker 4: right there. Sign this ship and go past the ship.
Speaker 4: I never signed the ship, okay, but I always called Damon,
Speaker 4: was like, yo, I'm.
Speaker 1: Right here at the give me. I don't want to
Speaker 1: sign this.
Speaker 4: So you know, so that created the the you know,
Speaker 4: the bond and the way that I was coming on
Speaker 4: the floor. You know what I'm saying now, everybody else
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's how I like start, you know,
Speaker 4: coming and just seeing what was going on and meet
Speaker 4: Eric and you know, Tony, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: start kicking it with Rob Knox, and Rob Knox kind.
Speaker 1: Of like showed showed me the play, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he was there.
Speaker 4: All right, this is the room, like, don't ever go
Speaker 4: in there. They're always working in there. Boom boom, that's
Speaker 4: when they're writing. This is you can always come in
Speaker 4: my room. And that's Damon's room. All right, cool, all right, boom,
Speaker 4: Damon come out, hey man, you can go on my room.
Speaker 4: So I would just be in his room trying to
Speaker 4: figure shit out, and it was like that's literally yeah Osburgers,
Speaker 4: and that's literally like where and how I may take
Speaker 4: you down because he just let me come up on
Speaker 4: the floor and I'm just, you know, figuring it out,
Speaker 4: like there was no reason for me to be there,
Speaker 4: but just to learn and be wild by all.
Speaker 1: The niggas that I respected. Story behind. Take you down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: take you down? Okay, Yeah, I'm in Damon's room and.
Speaker 4: I went downstairs to get high because you can't smoke
Speaker 4: in the studio, which I hated. So I went downstairs,
Speaker 4: propped the door, get hort or whatever. I come upstairs
Speaker 4: and I hear the beat in my head while I'm
Speaker 4: smoking and shit, so I'm like, all right, cool, I
Speaker 4: just hear that, like.
Speaker 1: Like I all right, I go back upstairs.
Speaker 4: I don't know this shit because I do, you know,
Speaker 4: MPCs and keyboards and shiit. This was my introduction to
Speaker 4: using a doll you know what I'm saying, digital audio
Speaker 4: workstation and we were using logic, so it's just a
Speaker 4: keyboard and logic. I'm like, fuck, let me just hear
Speaker 4: so I'll just go through the ship. I think it
Speaker 4: was some rob kno kids loaded in there. I'm just
Speaker 4: doing shit until I find the ship that I you know,
Speaker 4: do so I do that shit, do.
Speaker 1: The beat, build out the rest of it. It's just going.
Speaker 1: It's going.
Speaker 4: And then I get to the part where I want
Speaker 4: to go to the next section and the MIDI sustain
Speaker 4: is like just going and I don't know how to
Speaker 4: put stop there. So I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 4: say I'm too prideful, but I was. I didn't want
Speaker 4: to go until somebody these niggas session up or as
Speaker 4: one of you elite as niggas.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm on the bench over here. How do you
Speaker 1: open this gatorade? Like how do you open? So I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna figure this out. So I'm up
Speaker 1: there just trying to figure it.
Speaker 4: Out, and I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna just move
Speaker 4: all the ship to it just die out so on
Speaker 4: the part so that stay.
Speaker 1: So when it does the it's like dud.
Speaker 4: Ship. That wasn't on purpose. That was a real accident.
Speaker 4: And I just didn't want to tell niggas like like
Speaker 4: I accidentally did that, or how do you fix that?
Speaker 1: Nobody said that they like it.
Speaker 3: The bubbles at New Bubbles after they sustained already know what.
Speaker 1: You I didn't know how to drag spliced it even know,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: So so when I get to that part after I
Speaker 4: paced it, I you know, play it again.
Speaker 1: I turn it up a little bit. Damon comes in
Speaker 1: the room like literally like seven minutes after I'm like
Speaker 1: doing it. He's like, yo, what is this. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like just trying to do something like
Speaker 1: this is going on Chris Brown. And then he.
Speaker 4: Walked out the room, no cap, and I was like, nigga,
Speaker 4: yeah right, you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: hair like like that never happens, right, nobody tells you
Speaker 4: like I'm going to do this and then they do it.
Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. So I just finished the ship and
Speaker 4: didn't know that Damon took what I did. They finished,
Speaker 4: and they did, the bridge went up in a they
Speaker 4: went and y'all ended up writing and doing all the shit.
Speaker 4: And I'm on the second floor, you know, regular business,
Speaker 4: and my lawyer called me like, hey, do you have
Speaker 4: a single coming out on Chris Brown? I was like,
Speaker 4: uh no, no, Well do I remember the conference? I
Speaker 4: was like no, I don't think so I was like,
Speaker 4: wait do I He was like, we just got something
Speaker 4: from the Underdog saying that you know, I'm just like this, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like Damon was the first person that told me that
Speaker 4: I'm going to do this, and he did it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't.
Speaker 4: Care what what nobody think.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: If Damon called me today, I'm going to answer the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm just that type of nigga. I'm a loyal nigga,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So like that was something that they didn't even have
Speaker 4: to do, you know, or they could have just took
Speaker 4: the idea and just just said, hey, let's reproduce this
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying now, I'm fighting it.
Speaker 1: Nah, you didn't really do that.
Speaker 4: We don't care like niggas do that every day because
Speaker 4: you also did it.
Speaker 1: On their exactly. It's not like it was in your computer.
Speaker 1: It was on their Like this is a thing.
Speaker 2: So for them to them to, you know, to stay
Speaker 2: solid in that type of situation because you.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have won that in court. You wouldn't have
Speaker 1: won that in court. Here's the thing. You remember when
Speaker 1: I told you that sheet that everybody's supposed to sign,
Speaker 1: you didn't sign it. You didn't sign. That's the leverage
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 4: So you know, because I didn't sign that sheet, I
Speaker 4: had a little bit more leverage. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: you never needed It wasn't yes about the relationship was cool.
Speaker 4: And that's why I like talking about experiences that happened
Speaker 4: like that as well as experiences that don't. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's like you have to let
Speaker 4: people know, like this ship ain't always fire and it
Speaker 4: can always go however, because they're the underdogs, just stay ship.
Speaker 4: So just like all these other artists just getting fire overnight,
Speaker 4: they got the company and stay ship. They want to
Speaker 4: pay you two dollars for the beat? Do you want
Speaker 4: to go viral or not? Take this two dollars? Shut
Speaker 4: the hell up early?
Speaker 1: And was this your first placement? That was my first placement?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 4: That was my first single, That was like my first
Speaker 4: big placement. I think the first place, my first placement
Speaker 4: was my very first placement. Is not worth mentioning my
Speaker 4: first place in that first placement that I would like
Speaker 4: to talk about Bobby Valentino Gangster Love with my cousin Swift,
Speaker 4: and really my cousin Swift did the whole beat, he
Speaker 4: had did it. I was working with him at the time,
Speaker 4: and you know, we were the band for Bobby Valentino
Speaker 4: and Tim and Bob really took a liking to us
Speaker 4: and our music and the ship that we was doing
Speaker 4: at the time just wasn't as fire as the ship
Speaker 4: that you know, Swift did. Like we have the musicality
Speaker 4: but not the sonics and like, you know, figuring out
Speaker 4: the mixed and this ship. So shout out to Swift
Speaker 4: not but yeah, that was the first place, man.
Speaker 1: We did. When was your first real check for a placement?
Speaker 1: First real check was I think I was still seventeen.
Speaker 1: I might have been eighteen. It was with Billy Marsa
Speaker 1: gave me the check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy, Billy, that move money.
Speaker 1: You're gonna find some ship you and me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he I think it was Formula One was the
Speaker 4: group's name, And there was some beat I did at
Speaker 4: that studio, and you know, they liked it enough to
Speaker 4: pay for it.
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty five hundred dollars. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm rich. I ain't never going back to doing that.
Speaker 1: No need more. Yeah, yeah, I got like fifteen of
Speaker 1: these on the CD.
Speaker 4: That's left right, Yeah, slots in what we're doing. But yeah, no,
Speaker 4: that was like the first real you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And that was like before I start going to underdogs,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That was before I got
Speaker 4: signed a war I got signed a Warring around like
Speaker 4: nineteen something like that. Twenty Then t I signed me
Speaker 4: around like twenty three or something. After I did take
Speaker 4: you down around like twenty three twenty four, and then
Speaker 4: we started a production company together and I moved to
Speaker 4: Atlanta to work with him.
Speaker 1: So t I signed you as a producer, we far
Speaker 1: as a writer. Well, we started a production company together. OK.
Speaker 4: So he wanted he wanted to produce, and my lawyer
Speaker 4: basically was like, yo, he wanted he needs like a
Speaker 4: Scott Stores to a doctor dragon. I'm like, nigga, I'm
Speaker 4: both like, what do you He's fifty cent I'm Scott's
Speaker 4: Stores doctor. But you know, but he had he had
Speaker 4: previously did beats. I just didn't know, and I wasn't
Speaker 4: aware of nothing, like I just knew rubber band man.
Speaker 4: I wasn't like ever a tip fan, none of the ship.
Speaker 1: So it was just like how did he find you?
Speaker 1: He just he's just heard take you down and look.
Speaker 4: The same attorney gotch So he was talking to my
Speaker 4: attorney and he was like, man, I need somebody that
Speaker 4: can you know, I'm trying to get back on the
Speaker 4: beats and I need somebody that can help me, you know,
Speaker 4: formulate the ideas.
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I got Mars, you know. Boom boom.
Speaker 1: So we got on three way and you're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, hey man, ship man privileged. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, shouting When can you come out to it?
Speaker 1: When can you come out today? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like ship man, I'm ready when you are all right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the flight. I send it to you tonight.
Speaker 4: Like wait, no, not that fast, like like maybe like
Speaker 4: two days like work on my ride situation. I had
Speaker 4: no car at the time. I remember I walked from
Speaker 4: my apartment to eat. I was on Magnolia, walked up
Speaker 4: to the apartment, and this nigga called me. I'm on
Speaker 4: a three way.
Speaker 2: Like, so we're going to talk about that. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I'm a timeline guy. Okay, you just said you did
Speaker 2: take you down, had had other deals. When t I called,
Speaker 2: you did not have a car. Just so, like you said,
Speaker 2: we're giving real information about how the music business works,
Speaker 2: absolutely in all transparency. Was it that you did not
Speaker 2: make money off of these things or was it that
Speaker 2: you blew it?
Speaker 4: No? So I had gotten a car accident, and then
Speaker 4: after I got in a car accident, I was just
Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, trying to figure my shit out.
Speaker 1: You know, I got to get rise and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you had a couple of dollars in Yeah, not
Speaker 4: enough to just go get a new car from an
Speaker 4: unprecedented accident. I had enough money to pay my bills,
Speaker 4: you know, stay afloat. So so yeah, that time like
Speaker 4: I always like to say, sacrifice over security. It's easy
Speaker 4: to go. I could have went and got a bucket
Speaker 4: or you know, do some shit. But I know that
Speaker 4: if I just keep doing what I'm doing, and you know,
Speaker 4: something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Like I e the call that I had, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So boom, So we had that call and you know,
Speaker 4: and then I'll fly out.
Speaker 1: To go work with him.
Speaker 4: And that was like the first time that somebody actually
Speaker 4: paid me that much money cash, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And my fact, that was the first time I seen
Speaker 4: like somebody just take out their money out their pocket.
Speaker 1: Like oh, here go, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I was like, and that was for you to do
Speaker 1: the production team with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like in that band towards any money
Speaker 4: that we would receive from our production team. So like
Speaker 4: you know, it was a short project, but you know,
Speaker 4: he we did like the Lebron James movie. We did
Speaker 4: some different franch like just Random Ship, Young Joe.
Speaker 1: We did, like we had a song on more Thing
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we do like you know, like five or
Speaker 4: six you know, placements or something like that.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: And then they have to scream tour and me being
Speaker 4: you know, the workaholic and wanting to do all the ship.
Speaker 4: When I first get out there, He's like, man, get
Speaker 4: whatever you want for you know, the studio. So I'm
Speaker 4: like being modest, I'm like, all right, cool, let's get
Speaker 4: this keyboard. This nigga bought everything for a drum.
Speaker 1: Set, the ship that had the virus TI just because
Speaker 1: it say t I on it. He brought the tr
Speaker 1: he ba look good at the studio. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the exactly look at the sitio.
Speaker 4: Man, you see my name, see you see what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: I see the Jacko basse bro a replica of that Jacko.
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like like.
Speaker 4: You want that bas I'm like, hell no, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's like twelve tho ten like
Speaker 4: crazy something crazy, like you want that baby? Like, nah,
Speaker 4: Who're about to leave? We walking out? The guy is like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: where do you want your certificate of a authentication? Like
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? Like for the Jocko. This
Speaker 4: nigga bought me a Jacko base. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And I'm like I've been around niggas for since niggas
Speaker 4: been niggas, and he don't know me from a man
Speaker 4: on the moon. This man has this the first day
Speaker 4: that he sees the value of me. He knows I
Speaker 4: don't know none of his songs. We're not friends at
Speaker 4: this point. We're just meeting like we're about to do
Speaker 4: music and business together.
Speaker 1: Like why are you? Why are you doing this? Southern hospitality?
Speaker 4: Brother, Fuck Southern hospitality. That ship was a start of
Speaker 4: a real bond and friendship and relation.
Speaker 3: What I mean when I say Southern hospitality, it's like
Speaker 3: you find with guys like Tip, like the I mean,
Speaker 3: for some reason, that Southern bag is a limit when
Speaker 3: they get millions of dollars, that ship stretched down there, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they literally turned warehouses into clubs in the
Speaker 2: middle of they get a honey bun for every hosting.
Speaker 2: And when they get it, they get it because and
Speaker 2: plus those all those states connected, they aren't connected. It's
Speaker 2: paper bag and one night you're in Mississippi, Georgia the
Speaker 2: real six figures every stop.
Speaker 1: But he saw him saying, that's what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: saw the value.
Speaker 3: He immediately knew I got to pour into this kid
Speaker 3: in order to get the most out of them for
Speaker 3: what we're trying.
Speaker 1: To do together.
Speaker 2: And it's something I say to you all the time,
Speaker 2: and you say, you say about going where you want it.
Speaker 1: Reach.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's something people people press. Facts,
Speaker 2: people press at things that aren't for them, our situations
Speaker 2: that aren't for them. Everybody isn't for everybody that's in
Speaker 2: in personal relationships, business relationships, romantic relate, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: People are like, no, no, I just need to be
Speaker 1: with her. She don't really like you.
Speaker 2: Dog right, read the room like she don't really like you.
Speaker 1: And we got to look at business like that too. Facts.
Speaker 2: It's some people that see the value in you and
Speaker 2: they're just like, you know what, he could use that,
Speaker 2: she could use that. This is something that will help
Speaker 2: this thing grow because this is a talented young man
Speaker 2: who he don't just want it just to.
Speaker 1: Look at it. He gonna he's gonna do something with that. Facts.
Speaker 1: So this's twelve thousand nothing, It don't mean nothing. Motivation
Speaker 1: ale exactly.
Speaker 2: And I just think that's something that's very important. When
Speaker 2: you see somebody that that that you feel like you
Speaker 2: should invest in, You should invest in them. And we've
Speaker 2: done it plenty of times, and sometimes it comes back
Speaker 2: and sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Right, but.
Speaker 2: I felt like this needed to be invested in, and
Speaker 2: hopefully for some of the people that don't even work
Speaker 2: with me anymore, hopefully I gave them a step up
Speaker 2: exactly into what they're going to become. Always I always
Speaker 2: tell people, man, just if it don't work out, just
Speaker 2: come back and say thank you. That's it, because I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna make my money. Niggas is prideful, bro, I've.
Speaker 2: Been able to make my money in this business, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like I'm not asking
Speaker 2: you to come back and drop a ten on me
Speaker 2: or something. I'm just saying, when you see me in
Speaker 2: these streets and you are who I thought you would become,
Speaker 2: say thanks.
Speaker 4: And guess what, eighty percent of them niggas is not
Speaker 4: gonna say thanks. So what you have to do is
Speaker 4: have a podcast. Like The reason why I felt like
Speaker 4: I was a lot more advanced than other people was
Speaker 4: because I thought that these niggas that were sampling was
Speaker 4: playing all the ship. I thought Timberland was playing everything
Speaker 4: I saw. J Dilla was playing everything I thought that was.
Speaker 1: In your mind. You have to play it. You haven't
Speaker 1: you You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't recall those records you never heard, you ain't
Speaker 2: seen them, makeup or nothing.
Speaker 3: So so here's what we share and learn the creativity
Speaker 3: because I used Timberland as my foundation to learn how
Speaker 3: to really produce. So I would on my nine tracks
Speaker 3: on my PV DPM four remake Timberland Records, and I
Speaker 3: didn't know those were samples.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you did those.
Speaker 1: I don't know where any of that ship came from.
Speaker 3: But I would just try to make the sound sounds
Speaker 3: something close to.
Speaker 1: Whatever I had to do.
Speaker 3: And so that's how I learned how to, in a
Speaker 3: sense like sound make make samples within the music that
Speaker 3: I make, right, because I didn't start off sampling. But
Speaker 3: then when I got my PC, I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 3: been killing myself the whole.
Speaker 1: Time, taking three hours to do, take fifteen minutes. I
Speaker 1: bought it.
Speaker 3: I bought a CD store going out of said, going
Speaker 3: out of business, you had boxes of CDs.
Speaker 2: It's just.
Speaker 1: It's right heaving.
Speaker 2: But the fact that y'all could create that, yeah, is
Speaker 2: also something that has helped y'all in your.
Speaker 4: And that's I think that's what you know that's again
Speaker 4: taking the stairs exactly. Yeah, but you just felt you
Speaker 4: didn't know, like like again, we didn't have the insight.
Speaker 4: We not Yo, we're in the studio making the beat.
Speaker 4: You don't know how they created the beat. You don't
Speaker 4: know they oh he sampled this and used this way.
Speaker 1: You don't know that great feeling games was in there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: no I did.
Speaker 3: I didn't have I didn't have a call the call
Speaker 3: guitar player, so I had to learn guitar voice sings
Speaker 3: so that when I played my nylon.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it sounded like you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like you have to all that. So again,
Speaker 3: not taking the stairs, I mean we really, I mean
Speaker 3: not taking the elevator, and we really took stare. Sometimes
Speaker 3: a sand dune keep sliding down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's whack. Well I'm try it again.
Speaker 1: I would try it again.
Speaker 4: I was crazy, man, But you essential you you Okay,
Speaker 4: when do you get to become a DJ?
Speaker 1: Because what when do you get there?
Speaker 3: Because now you have such an understanding of music, and
Speaker 3: now you know how music flows and big becoming a
Speaker 3: DJ now is is obviously or is it as easy
Speaker 3: a transition as it is from coming from band, and
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: A lot more easier than what I thought. The real
Speaker 4: thing that happened was I wanted to do it and
Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell nobody because I don't like
Speaker 4: doing shit unless I could do it as best as
Speaker 4: I can do it.
Speaker 1: So I practiced for like five years. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: bought a CDJ around.
Speaker 4: Like maybe like twenty fourteen thirteen, something like that, and
Speaker 4: I just had it in my house and I fuck
Speaker 4: around every now and again, not as not every day,
Speaker 4: but you know, just every now and again.
Speaker 1: But I didn't get the concept of it.
Speaker 4: I just knew that I wanted to have it either
Speaker 4: as a sampling tool or to be able to incorporate
Speaker 4: my music or something, you know. So I just had it.
Speaker 4: So I was fucking around, and then I started doing
Speaker 4: this thing on Sundays after church, which is funny, and
Speaker 4: I just start having like a gang of homegirls and
Speaker 4: homies come through. We're just drinking, kicking and smoking, making
Speaker 4: beats and all kinds of shit. And then like one
Speaker 4: of those times, I'm like, let me just hook my
Speaker 4: shit up.
Speaker 1: So I hooked my shit up and just start fucking around.
Speaker 4: But fast forward to like maybe three or four years
Speaker 4: later on fire now, and I know how to I've
Speaker 4: already like been like, oh, let me take some of
Speaker 4: my musical compositions and put it in the DJ shit
Speaker 4: and scratch and like pitch it up and chop shit
Speaker 4: up and use it in the beats. So I'm like
Speaker 4: doing all kinds. I'm like, oh shit, I'm in a
Speaker 4: studio by myself, like what I figured it out?
Speaker 1: All that shit. I'm like, yeah, like fuck.
Speaker 4: So then by that time, I'm like, well, shit, let
Speaker 4: me just start fucking around with records. So now quarantine
Speaker 4: has hit, and you know, niggas is like you know,
Speaker 4: on Twitch. So I was on Twitch DJing and people
Speaker 4: be like, oh man, I'll see you.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks man, I needed that boom boom.
Speaker 4: I get off Twitch and I got like, you know,
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars on my cash up or you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like the Twitch, I'm like, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: But now I'm looking at the twich and its like
Speaker 4: you are lying for six hours, like six hours, God damn,
Speaker 4: I back hurting the shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But that's when I realized that I really fucking love
Speaker 4: that shit. So like the informative and how can I say,
Speaker 4: I like, try to try to get the most information
Speaker 4: that I can, so I hit the best people.
Speaker 1: I knew that DJ, so first I hit battle Cat.
Speaker 4: Battle Cat came through, And once he came through and
Speaker 4: showed me, it changed my whole shit. I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I can produce while I am DJing, and that just
Speaker 4: changed my whole shit. So now I'm the drummer, I'm
Speaker 4: the musician, I could be the keyboard player, I could
Speaker 4: take the keys from this record, because now it's about
Speaker 4: catalog and knowing as much music as possible.
Speaker 1: So anything I.
Speaker 4: Here, I'm like, okay, ship, I can put damn that
Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder those strings from Village Ghetto Land will go
Speaker 4: crazy on this.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, now you're dissecting it as musical instruments.
Speaker 3: And you all to just the songs, and because you
Speaker 3: used to you couldn't isolate back in the day, it's
Speaker 3: now the isolation is great.
Speaker 4: So oh my god. I was like, after I've learned that,
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm doing like I had our DJ
Speaker 4: artistic pull up a couple other DJs you know, just
Speaker 4: to make sure I was doing like, you know, doing
Speaker 4: my ship. And after that it was a wrap. I
Speaker 4: called David Busters, Yo, I want to do a West
Speaker 4: Coast Wednesdays. I want to come up there, and.
Speaker 1: Called Dare I love Nigga. I love that. I don't
Speaker 1: know where that was. It was like Nigga said. The
Speaker 1: first thing I did called David Bus.
Speaker 4: This was the perfect opportunity to DJ, Like you get
Speaker 4: to Dja bus is this?
Speaker 1: I'm just which Hollywood in Hollywood? The one in Hollywood?
Speaker 4: But hear me out the first the first I had
Speaker 4: a meet in that Daving Busters, just because I love
Speaker 4: David Busters and I was wanting to do something there.
Speaker 4: But you know, once I start DJing, I'm like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: this would be perfect, like like a DJ there just
Speaker 4: to you know, see what the fuck is going on
Speaker 4: before I start, you know, hitting.
Speaker 1: Up these lounges and clubs and charging a million.
Speaker 4: Dollars cool testing ground, yeah, because they're not here to
Speaker 4: see me anywhay. You're here to go have fun. And
Speaker 4: then if you hear something fire like, oh shit, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like the challenge, so boom,
Speaker 4: I hit them up West Coast Wednesdays, I'm up there
Speaker 4: a DJ, and they made it work.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: We start just like getting so many motherfuckers. That was
Speaker 4: just like, yo, so what are you gonna do next?
Speaker 4: And we and now my regular life as my guy
Speaker 4: Mars or my great life as my guy Mars. You know,
Speaker 4: it's still moving and I'm like trying to just be
Speaker 4: a DJ, and it's like, Nigga, you got a session.
Speaker 4: The next one, you may have to go out of town. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you may have to go yeah exactly. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: but I really love it, so realize I couldn't really
Speaker 4: do it, So I just start putting other people in
Speaker 4: a position to be there, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like blast DJ, you know.
Speaker 1: Crystal to DJ, different people like that.
Speaker 4: And you know, that turned into like a great relationship
Speaker 4: to be able to have like all the daving Busters'
Speaker 4: locations in California. So I start curating talent for all
Speaker 4: it so all six locations like every.
Speaker 1: Week, yeah, for like two months.
Speaker 4: But the way that I did it though, was I
Speaker 4: had I would go on my live and I'd be like, yo,
Speaker 4: if you are a dope artist, a dope singer, you know,
Speaker 4: what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, like, come on my live right now. I want
Speaker 1: to hear what you got. Boom boom.
Speaker 4: I can get you some food, pay two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty dollars, and you can come perform at Daving Busters.
Speaker 4: So that was like something like people start, you know,
Speaker 4: and they follow him will it's hit me up the
Speaker 4: Orange County.
Speaker 1: Hey, who is Taylor? Taylor?
Speaker 4: She was amazing? Or who is this person? Like they
Speaker 4: came late and they asking for drinks and they're on
Speaker 4: the outside smoking weed all that. So it's like you
Speaker 4: get to experience, you know what I'm saying, like the
Speaker 4: whole ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and what comes with.
Speaker 4: And given opportunity exactly. So it was like I'm not
Speaker 4: fucking up your opportunity. You take on you and you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm not in San Diego. If
Speaker 4: you don't show up, that's on you, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I think it was dope because they gave me
Speaker 4: a platform to be able to extend the opportunities are
Speaker 4: already give you know what I'm saying. But it was,
Speaker 4: you know, a fire thing to be able to DJ
Speaker 4: and then still be able to transition. So when I
Speaker 4: worked with Brody and he got his deal and I
Speaker 4: started doing playing for him a musical director for him,
Speaker 4: my setup is I'm his DJ, So have my DJ
Speaker 4: set up my role and the keyboard.
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm doing the Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what it's like.
Speaker 4: So now it's a part of the experience, and you know,
Speaker 4: me hearing things a certain way, I can execute it
Speaker 4: opposed to just me being there just DJing, right, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying and not playing so.
Speaker 2: All because your daddy told you to go play the
Speaker 2: organ while he's saying amazing. Probably for sure, that's what
Speaker 2: it all comes back. As you're doing that. I'm watching
Speaker 2: you as a little confused at first, and control of
Speaker 2: the church, you know what I mean, Like all of
Speaker 2: these things, and that's we go back to it.
Speaker 1: Stop skipping steps.
Speaker 2: Right, These things will lead to other things, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And and the more you put into it,
Speaker 2: the more it gives back to you, sir, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I appreciate this to my son, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, like me and him talk about it in
Speaker 2: his life and the things that he wants to do.
Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, just put the work in, but the
Speaker 2: specific work. You know what I mean, Because there is
Speaker 2: a thing called a hamster whill where you running place.
Speaker 1: Facts I'm running, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And there's a difference between an actual running a marathon
Speaker 2: and getting somewhere or being on this hamster wheel and
Speaker 2: going nowhere. Work can be put in, but if you
Speaker 2: haven't identified Okay, I'm going to work at A B
Speaker 2: and C. This is going to get me to this step.
Speaker 2: This like life takes planning right right, even on accident.
Speaker 2: Facts like life takes you gotta be prepared for when
Speaker 2: that opportunity comes for you, so or you know, when
Speaker 2: you have that chance to say, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna call David Busters because I just like it. But
Speaker 2: then going and actually delivering something right, because on the
Speaker 2: other side of that, you are of value to this
Speaker 2: place because now people are buying more little mini burgers.
Speaker 1: Right, Niggas is shooting more hoops right.
Speaker 2: Because they know that Mars, my guy, Mars has West
Speaker 2: Coast Wednesdays and he's showing new talent. But then on
Speaker 2: the flip side of that, you're giving them an opportunity.
Speaker 1: So now you you're.
Speaker 4: Everything, your reach is grown as you were introduced, fact.
Speaker 1: As you were introduced love. You know, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Man. I just think, you know, it's a lot of
Speaker 4: people that have been before us that we've taken on
Speaker 4: a lot of you know, great experiences, great memories, great
Speaker 4: traits from these people, and also the bad experiences we've
Speaker 4: been able to, you know, navigate to where we know
Speaker 4: how to inform other people, whether you take it or not.
Speaker 1: We could tell just hey, the stove I'm just letting
Speaker 1: you know, the stove is hot. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: As long as I can do that, I don't feel,
Speaker 4: you know, as bad. And as long as I can
Speaker 4: give as much as I can give while I'm here,
Speaker 4: then I'm good.
Speaker 1: Because you know, I just want to die empty. That's it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I want everything that I'm
Speaker 4: trying to do to be done, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like that's that's the whole point. Like my son is
Speaker 4: five years old, and you know, i'd say the people
Speaker 4: that I used to talking to the most are not
Speaker 4: here anymore, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like it.
Speaker 4: Starts putting, it gives you more real perspective perspectives. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying of like what you're doing with
Speaker 4: your time, and I would rather not just you know,
Speaker 4: come here and just be like yeah, man, you know,
Speaker 4: thanks to me talk about all the shit and not
Speaker 4: be able to give real information, real valuable information, and
Speaker 4: you know as much as I can while I'm here,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I think that's like the main thing is just.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I want I want to dj, I want
Speaker 4: to sing, I want to write, I want to do
Speaker 4: all the ship I know I can do. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, especially if it's people out here that's doing.
Speaker 1: It way more terribly.
Speaker 3: Wan more terribly, you know, more terribly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know that that is something where I
Speaker 2: think for me and and you know, people were asking
Speaker 2: me about singing again, right and now why again it's
Speaker 2: what do you mean again? Well, you know, I take
Speaker 2: I took I guess I could say I take I've
Speaker 2: taken breaks, but I took a long break to focus
Speaker 2: on another part of my career and things that I
Speaker 2: wanted to develop as far as you know, just just
Speaker 2: my mind and me being on the executive side, so
Speaker 2: I couldn't focus on being an artist at that time
Speaker 2: or doing songs, but not to the level I wanted
Speaker 2: to do the mat so, but I think, you know,
Speaker 2: once Chank truly convinced me to get back into that space.
Speaker 2: I think the outlook I took on it was I'll
Speaker 2: just create the music that I don't hear that I
Speaker 2: would like to hear, not even caring about whatever somebody
Speaker 2: else made or didn't make, and me feeling a way
Speaker 2: about or having an opinion about whatever they were making.
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what, I would actually
Speaker 2: like to hear this song, even if it was on
Speaker 2: somebody else, So you know whatout singing fire, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And that was a big part of
Speaker 2: the motivation for me. It's like, okay, anything, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? Okay our podcast. A big part of
Speaker 2: our podcast is that we wanted to give something. We
Speaker 2: wanted to be an alternative to certain things. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to complain about whatever other podcasts and what they
Speaker 2: say on their own, it doesn't matter to me, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I actually salute them for going
Speaker 2: and doing the work. But on the R and B
Speaker 2: Money podcast, right cast is set a certain way. We're
Speaker 2: going to do a certain thing here. We're going we're
Speaker 2: going to celebrate, we're going to give information, we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the journey, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the journey with people from different walks of life. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's called the R and B Money Podcast. As soon
Speaker 2: as you hear R and B, that's the first thing
Speaker 2: you're thinking. But me and this man aren't.
Speaker 4: I'm about to say, y'all, niggas ain't gonna not never
Speaker 4: not be here right this is.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So for us, I can interview anybody off the street
Speaker 2: if I want to, because we're gonna get back to
Speaker 2: the R and B within it. But it's just creating
Speaker 2: things that we would like to see. And that's truly,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, what God gave us, absolutely the gift
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like that, Okay. I think I came
Speaker 2: up with an idea for the things I do like
Speaker 2: and maybe some more people will like it, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I think you've you've done really well.
Speaker 2: And that's face And even because Tank Tank Tank kind
Speaker 2: of touched on.
Speaker 1: This earlier, as far as.
Speaker 2: Your desography, take you down sounds nothing like stronger. Yeah,
Speaker 2: are stronger sounds nothing like Compton Compton, Yeah are Compton sounds?
Speaker 2: Nothing like what it feels like? Right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Like those are energy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: None of these records soundedlike So to me, what I
Speaker 2: believe is that these are just records you liked and
Speaker 2: something you wanted to hear, and now people have taken
Speaker 2: to them for sure, and you've created a career off
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: How you weren't like you as you evolved. It's like
Speaker 3: you evolved into so many things to where there's no box,
Speaker 3: there's nothing that can hold you. So from a creative standpoint,
Speaker 3: like you become, you become limitless. You can walk in
Speaker 3: any room.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's I think there that comes
Speaker 4: with the intention as well, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: because you know, I can intend on being the best
Speaker 4: pop producer and just stay in that lane, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think my thing was I've always
Speaker 4: been about the music and the ego is the biggest ego.
Speaker 1: Is the song for me.
Speaker 4: So it's like if I'm walking into a room to
Speaker 4: contribute something, I'm trying to do the best for the song.
Speaker 1: It's not about it's not about your signature.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I never thought of like doing a tag
Speaker 4: or none of that shit, because I want you to
Speaker 4: like the music before you like me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I want you or
Speaker 1: like me for the music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But that's what you're processing and getting first. Is the music,
Speaker 4: getting an emotion, the education, all of the things we
Speaker 4: were just talking about. You're getting all that with what
Speaker 4: I'm putting into the music. So why would I take
Speaker 4: that away by saying Mike got mars on the beat
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 1: Take you down? Is that the same?
Speaker 4: Why you know what I'm saying, It's like it's taken
Speaker 4: from me. It was taken away from the song. So
Speaker 4: I never, like I said, I never even envisioned working
Speaker 4: with artists. I just vision making music. Then I started
Speaker 4: working with artists, It's like, Okay, how can I make
Speaker 4: the best song? Not like how can I make the
Speaker 4: world know it's me? My thing was I felt like
Speaker 4: it was a compliment if.
Speaker 1: You didn't know it was me. It's tailoring at all time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't want it
Speaker 1: to high level. I didn't want no.
Speaker 3: It's his suit you're making. You're making tailor mates exactly
Speaker 3: for those particular artists, and nobody should be able to
Speaker 3: wear that, and you shouldn't even be able to wear
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: So on this path and you know, becoming a great producer, songwriter,
Speaker 2: DJ artists.
Speaker 1: Like, what do you see next for you?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm getting a little older, so now I'm more
Speaker 4: so we.
Speaker 1: Don't get all the music, bro, Yeah, we don't get
Speaker 1: all the music. We get old as performers, we get older.
Speaker 2: Put on go put on a Marshmallow helmet man, and
Speaker 2: they'll never know how never know.
Speaker 1: Never know.
Speaker 2: I don't even know who marshmallow. I was about to say,
Speaker 2: I know, I ain't even got Me and him have
Speaker 2: probably been in the same room.
Speaker 1: I've seen him literally said that no ship. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was literally. I was like, bro, he could have
Speaker 1: been right next to me at Starbucks. Bro, like I was.
Speaker 2: I was bowling one day and saw Gene Simmons and
Speaker 2: I was like, I was young, I was younger, right,
Speaker 2: And I was trying to put it to two together.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you look familiar, but he don't.
Speaker 4: Can you stick your tongue out really quick for me?
Speaker 4: Paul No, but that's how he was known. No, man, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, stay trying to go viral stick a while.
Speaker 1: Bro. You know what, No, I didn't let me off
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 4: I was thinking face boy, you know, contract boy, face
Speaker 4: paint man, little talk.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and we're gonna. Yes, we're gonna, and we
Speaker 2: don't plan on quitting no time soon either.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like we go, we're gonna do our thing for a minute.
Speaker 2: That's how we look into it ain't fun no more.
Speaker 2: Right now, we're having a great time.
Speaker 1: You understand me? Going? He going? I know it was,
Speaker 1: it was about to happen. Oh ship, this is my
Speaker 1: minister of music.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, brother Mars, my my guy Mars. In
Speaker 4: your journeys through the galaxies, you've heard some music.
Speaker 1: Yes, you've made some music. A lot of timers talk
Speaker 1: about you've gotten stronger, You've gotten stronger. Yeah, we want
Speaker 1: to know from all this music, what's your mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Fun?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're top five, top five, Yes, you're top five?
Speaker 1: Are the singers aread me? So we are to know?
Speaker 1: We know you know the galaxy your top yeah, top
Speaker 1: your f yeah yeah, you hear me. You understand me.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you say your top five though, let's shout
Speaker 2: out the merch. Oh love, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: because I know they've been paying attention to they've been
Speaker 2: seeing it.
Speaker 1: That's all. Come onst listen. We are celebrating business in here. Yes,
Speaker 1: get to the side, Come on, come on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in my bio or my got Mars dot com.
Speaker 4: But it's in my bio on Instagram, my got mars. Uh,
Speaker 4: we got merch. We got candles.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, let me tell you about this.
Speaker 4: So I got a candle. Oh yeah, I got a candle.
Speaker 4: We got the regular candle. And then I have a
Speaker 4: sound sent candle. Sound sent candle comes with a QR
Speaker 4: code and I produced music exclusively for that candle that
Speaker 4: only fifty people will get exclusivity. So yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: love flames dot com. And then I have some wine,
Speaker 4: a wine line that just started as well, and that's
Speaker 4: wine in Big dot com.
Speaker 1: So do you be in your backyard stepping on grapes? No,
Speaker 1: but I am going to go to a vineyard. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not like a foot.
Speaker 3: Never with my feet down, alright, my guy Mars, Yes, sir,
Speaker 3: your Top five R and B Singers by R and
Speaker 3: B Singers.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, just singing, just singing. I'm going, Charlie Wilson,
Speaker 1: come on, it's like an usher Mario somewhere. You want
Speaker 1: what you make it. You're making them tied for one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might have to tie for one Mario, Mario Raymond,
Speaker 1: Mario Raymond. Okay, and then we're gonna go. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go tie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's so Yeah, I like it cold. That niggas cold.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I gotta put in the vie. I
Speaker 1: gotta put tank in the vibe.
Speaker 2: That's crazy because in the vine in there, in there,
Speaker 2: you got your blue sweat suit on the.
Speaker 1: Lord to you, I know it is, it's on, but
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that ain't no to me. Soon I need
Speaker 1: wanted them to travel. It might be to be I
Speaker 1: got to be sweat suit though. I think I was
Speaker 1: on a movie to be. We gotta call. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for the I'm gonna go folk cool.
Speaker 4: You know what this is gonna be just this is
Speaker 4: just my personal one, my personal Yeah. I know they
Speaker 4: know what I'm about to say. I'm going, Michael McDonald.
Speaker 1: What do you mean Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: Nigga just saying I don't think that would be niggat
Speaker 3: so I think that's Cole Cole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rolling. I love Michael McDonald, love Michael McDonald.
Speaker 4: I always I wanted to like have them, like, you know,
Speaker 4: singing at my wedding or something, but just have to
Speaker 4: taken too long.
Speaker 1: Mars, your top five R and B Songs, Top five
Speaker 1: R and B Songs take you down? Is up there
Speaker 1: for sure? Why not put your record there? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go human Nature.
Speaker 4: It gotta be a baby song, probably whip a peel, Yeah,
Speaker 4: whatever you want, pretty brown eyes. And then I'm like,
Speaker 4: I close it off with either lady or how does
Speaker 4: it feel by D'Angelo. I'm tired for either.
Speaker 1: One of those. I like it.
Speaker 4: I don't think I like it. I don't think di'angelo's
Speaker 4: catalog it's talked about enough, not at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, let's see un she got over there.
Speaker 1: I can't let him leave. Just ship. Listen, you watched
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, I ain't saying no nigga, ain't saying
Speaker 1: no names. Yeah, saying no names, saying no names? Where
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: What you did?
Speaker 1: Don't say? She ain't say you got this podcast just
Speaker 1: a show off. That's great. Shop got furnishing moment and
Speaker 1: everything here.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know where we at. You know where we at? Man,
Speaker 1: you know where we're at. Man, Yeah, man, we have to.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying the name segment of the show. Very
Speaker 1: you didn't. Yeah, yeah, I know you didn't. Sainth it
Speaker 1: sat it right, So.
Speaker 2: Right now, tell us a story, funnyer fucked up, a
Speaker 2: funny and fucked up travel mars.
Speaker 1: It could be your guy.
Speaker 2: I could not be your guy girl. This this happened
Speaker 2: with you know what I mean? The only rule to
Speaker 2: this game is you can't say no names.
Speaker 1: That's all we that's all we ad. Okay, okay, some
Speaker 1: fucked up ship if you would like, if you would
Speaker 1: like what I would like?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to my mind is this
Speaker 4: session I had with this peculiar individual.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you've definitely been hanging out with t I this. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not really hanging I'll be watching a lot of
Speaker 1: no like, No, it was really peculiar. Marvin Gay, ain't
Speaker 1: that peculiar. I'm talking about the just saying I heard
Speaker 1: it from Marvin first.
Speaker 4: But anyway, No, it was a peculiar individual because I
Speaker 4: can't say they name, And it was a peculiar session
Speaker 4: because the individual wanted me, wanted me to work with
Speaker 4: somebody else, and the combo was crazy. So I was
Speaker 4: in there working and we're doing a remix for a song.
Speaker 4: And while we're doing the song, the person that I'm
Speaker 4: working with, it's two producers, it's me and somebody else.
Speaker 4: And the person I'm working with he like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's programming the drums and stuff. So he programs the
Speaker 4: eight O eights and I'm like, they not really like pitched,
Speaker 4: like they're not really in key, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: you should just have me do it on the you know,
Speaker 4: on the keyboard and I can like make it like
Speaker 4: an ad away.
Speaker 1: He's like, man, it's just this this sounds sound fire boom.
Speaker 4: I'm all right, cool, excuse me. So the dude comes in,
Speaker 4: he's like, yo, let me hear what y'all work on.
Speaker 4: You played the song and he's like, you know, bob
Speaker 4: into it. Then he turned the beat off and he's
Speaker 4: like he turned the beat off. He's like, yeah, this
Speaker 4: is fire. It's just like the ataways is just like
Speaker 4: out of tune. I look at this nigga like, he
Speaker 4: was like, oh man, he was like, I mean like
Speaker 4: I like it. It's like hip hop. But he was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just send it to my weight. Let me
Speaker 4: think of the right word. He said, I'm gonna send
Speaker 4: this to my aweight tuner. And I was like, and
Speaker 4: this is mars. Back in the day, I was a
Speaker 4: lot less filtered and not as slow to speak, I
Speaker 4: mean not, you know. So He's like, you know, this
Speaker 4: is a very expensive conversation, like these are elite people.
Speaker 1: I'm just here and I'm like.
Speaker 4: Yoh, why why you want to send it to you
Speaker 4: tuner if you've got an awight tuner.
Speaker 1: Right here hmm.
Speaker 4: And he was like, well, if I have an aweight
Speaker 4: tuner right here, why aren't the aweights tuned?
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be like, because you're an asshole,
Speaker 1: but I and I was like, that was like the
Speaker 1: end of me. Just I just melted. After that. I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I should not say ship to people.
Speaker 1: I should say shit too.
Speaker 4: It was the first time I like really got soun
Speaker 4: like in front of everybody.
Speaker 1: I didn't care, but the person said that the matter
Speaker 1: of my song sung.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like so it's almost like you should have
Speaker 3: caught that, which I did, which you did, but but
Speaker 3: he's not acknowledging the producers, not.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sick.
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, just melted and just all right,
Speaker 4: I'm saying this to you eight away to it right now,
Speaker 4: almost track track up the.
Speaker 1: Beats, like all right, cool.
Speaker 4: Then from that moment on, I knew just you know,
Speaker 4: if it's my session then and like say the things
Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're not, if not asking, you
Speaker 1: got it, Champ, you better than me to.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we should tune this nigga up,
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, no where I'm from tuning, you know,
Speaker 2: just for y'all.
Speaker 3: Just you know, I showed what her this because that
Speaker 3: was he's trashy and I've heard so many When you
Speaker 3: said that, my skin started crawling because nothing irks me
Speaker 3: more than an.
Speaker 1: Out out of tune eight oh eight.
Speaker 3: And there are hit records, yes with with out of
Speaker 3: tune o eight And when I hear that ship in
Speaker 3: the club, I was like, this, Jesus, But.
Speaker 2: I'm also trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what level. You gotta be on to have an
Speaker 2: eight oh eight tuner. I haven't achieved that level yet.
Speaker 1: You got it. Got to be a part of my flock.
Speaker 3: You gotta be the laziest. Listen, this is what this
Speaker 3: is what an eight o eight tuna is equivalent to. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he pulls the grapes off the stems.
Speaker 1: That's the equivalent of an a grateful because that's just
Speaker 1: like one we need him to.
Speaker 3: You know, he pulls it for me and then I
Speaker 3: eat it. You pause, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: that's the equivalent. That's how ridiculous that is that it's
Speaker 3: not tuned, because all you have to do is this
Speaker 3: or that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey man, this is a business full of flaws.
Speaker 1: I'm sure what he said it was.
Speaker 4: And he was wearing taxedo just to add and so
Speaker 4: to injury and the dummer. But the artist artist on
Speaker 4: purpose or yes, did he have somewhere to go? He
Speaker 4: just came back from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Somewhere he had when he said that he had he had.
Speaker 1: It on at the beginning of the session. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he left and he came back with the same taxi on.
Speaker 1: He had to text it on all day. It was
Speaker 1: his body. He had business, big business man. Business business
Speaker 1: bothered me. So yeah, there's people getting paid to eight O.
Speaker 1: Wait's out here, so you know, never know, listen, if
Speaker 1: you'all are paying top dollars to eight eight, I'm your guy.
Speaker 3: Ain't going for your grapes. Wait, I got all the
Speaker 3: stuff you need to away. May we got some news
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 1: Uh mars my guy. Man, thank you, brother, Thank you
Speaker 1: for real to make sure you know your family with that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all you belong up here, your information
Speaker 1: and and and what you what you continue to contribute
Speaker 1: to this thing. Man. People got to know that people
Speaker 1: know who you are. And this is you know, this
Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing with what you're doing. And I'm
Speaker 1: just glad. You know. The narrative is what it is.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like the format, you know,
Speaker 4: it's fun. You know, it's informative, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: and it's it's something that our culture needs.
Speaker 1: You know, appreciate you. I appreciate you, man, Flowers and all. Man,
Speaker 1: that's what we do.
Speaker 3: Then you know, you know, eventually when you get around
Speaker 3: to it, you know, maybe maybe you'll producing music for us.
Speaker 1: Man, Come on, to the studio and start playing.
Speaker 3: You know that you've been on the pile here. You
Speaker 3: know we were up one. Come on, you know players,
Speaker 3: don't keep going. I'm just starting it up there now,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Need that hit stage.
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