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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thank you take valantility.

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Speaker 3: We are the authority on all things R and B.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine.

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Speaker 3: This is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority

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Speaker 3: on all things R and B.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, my guy can do all things. You better

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Speaker 1: be able to play? You better be able to play

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Speaker 1: it all things? Can you write it? Can write? Can

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Speaker 1: you produce it? All things? Can you dj? Can you

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Speaker 1: perform it? All things?

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Speaker 3: Your guy's not better than my guy because my guys,

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Speaker 3: my guy Mars Max.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 3: Truly gifted, true And what's crazy is that? Hold on,

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Speaker 3: how did you get the name my guy Mars? Okay,

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Speaker 3: so it started with Mars. My name is Lamar.

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Speaker 4: So I've always been known to do things different than

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Speaker 4: most people or if you know, with our production company

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Speaker 4: or you know our band, and like, yo, let's try

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Speaker 4: it this way. I'm like, let's try it the left way,

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Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. So it was always

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Speaker 4: me doing that. So that kind of came like you

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Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna call you, Mars. You always You're

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Speaker 4: just not on this world.

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Speaker 1: My homegirl. Tavia from the IVY she was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you Mars.

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Speaker 4: You always just going against everything that, Like, I like that,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So I just start it

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Speaker 4: was just Mars and the my guy thing came from

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Speaker 4: Tyresse believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: My guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like under the dark days, you know whatever, whatever,

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Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, it just kind of happened like that.

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Speaker 3: I feel like my guy is organic to you period.

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Speaker 3: Like anytime somebody says, you know, Mars, what's my guy,

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Speaker 3: it followed, it follows Nigga, that's my guy. And that's

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Speaker 3: like universal right where everybody says, that's my guy.

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Speaker 1: And that's hard to have.

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Speaker 3: In this industry and in these streets where everybody has

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Speaker 3: that kind of reverence people with how dope of a

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Speaker 3: guy you are.

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Speaker 1: People really really fun with you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, outside of like saying it and endorsing it,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, I think that's one

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Speaker 4: of the main things too, like being known for you know,

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Speaker 4: saying it like.

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Speaker 1: In the sentiment of it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Man, I think that kind of like plays a lot

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Speaker 4: into just the name. But it's like more of like

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Speaker 4: the experience like what I what I represent Absolutely absolutely,

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Speaker 4: I haven't met anyone who's had a bad experience with you.

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Speaker 1: There it is. That's that's really sure I have.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's somebody out there that can't wait to

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Speaker 4: comment in the comedy.

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Speaker 1: Nah see, I'm telling you that nigga, I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to address it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we will address you because this is our guy.

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Speaker 1: Mars.

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Speaker 3: You do everything bro almost like you're like you're as

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Speaker 3: Jay likes to say, you're a real Swiss army knife

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Speaker 3: that part man. In the rooms you've been in that

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Speaker 3: you've been creative in your input has been necessary. As

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Speaker 3: you say, you have this thing where you're able to

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Speaker 3: see something completely different than what everybody else is saying. Right,

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Speaker 3: and your discography reflects that.

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Speaker 1: I can hear it.

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Speaker 4: I know left when I hear it, no facts, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I know I know when a

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Speaker 4: nigga is not right in his mind, you know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Making something like why would he?

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Speaker 2: That's what makes you stand out in music though, honestly

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Speaker 2: and being able to stand on that ledge sometimes because

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Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that, and now I don't fuck

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Speaker 2: with him because this ship is too you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you're well versed in what you do as well.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you're just some guy who's just Since

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Speaker 2: everybody is saying this, I just want to say something different.

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Speaker 1: No, I actually can break it down to you right exactly.

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Speaker 2: I have the information exactly because everybody don't got the information.

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Speaker 2: And to get the information, you got to do time

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Speaker 4: And that's yeah, I think that's the important part. I

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Speaker 4: I'm saying nowadays because a lot of people h you

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and tell them that they take a shortcut.

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Speaker 4: You fast tracked your way to success nowadays, and it

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Speaker 4: was like, I'll literally he was privileged enough. And that's

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Speaker 4: why I think this is like, this is amazing and

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Speaker 4: beautiful because it's like I was influenced by and have

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Speaker 4: been influenced by both of you, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 4: in different ways. And I also have been able to

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Speaker 4: work and see you work, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So it's like back then, if I was just talking

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Speaker 1: If you wasn't in the room, you didn't know what

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Speaker 1: We didn't have the phone, and you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: All of that ship it was like your nigga would

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Speaker 2: put pull out a camera back in the days.

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Speaker 1: And Michael.

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Speaker 3: Fast Quincy in this joint, Quincy right there, Quincy Jones here,

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Speaker 3: he's scoring ship.

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Speaker 1: It's like hard ship and nigger Mike Leig, Mike.

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Speaker 3: Something, mess with your nose, man. Your nose is spine.

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Speaker 3: Everybody tell Michael's knows the spine, Like that's how we

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Speaker 3: live in a while, That's what's going on now.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And it distracts, you know, the process as well as

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Speaker 4: just like you know, you just don't get the same education.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I got to see the education.

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Speaker 4: I got to see you guys writing the songs. I

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Speaker 4: got to see Harvey vocal producer. I got to see

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Speaker 4: Damon doing shit. I got to see everything, like how

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Speaker 4: the greatest songs that people love are made and the

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Speaker 4: songs that I grew up listening to are made. And

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Speaker 4: you know, being a church musician being somebody that's told

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Speaker 1: I was doing all the left shit. I was, and

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Speaker 4: Your experience, like your character who you are, church gangster shit,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And it's like I ain't

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Speaker 4: a gang member, but it's like being around niggas that

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Speaker 1: Can tell their stories musically.

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Speaker 4: That's how you you know, being able to create a

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Speaker 4: that Nipsey would endorse. All the music had to come

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Speaker 4: through us, you know what I'm saying, because we understand

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Speaker 4: the experience, we understand who the artist is, we know

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Speaker 4: how to convey it, and there may be something that

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Speaker 4: gravitates to him or something that he likes about the beat.

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Speaker 4: But it's like, how can we put it into you know,

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Speaker 4: our turns? How can it be in La on Crenshaw?

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Speaker 4: How can it sound like it looked? You know what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I think that was the dope thing

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Speaker 4: that I got to see from y'all. It was like

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Speaker 4: the experience and then I was able to take that

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Speaker 4: and practice that and have it take you down. And

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, all these different moments that

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Speaker 4: I'm practicing and like witnessing this ship in real time,

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Speaker 4: and that's that's the experience and the ship that I, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, advocate. Now it's like for people to really

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Speaker 4: educate themselves. Now we got YouTube. You can literally go

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Speaker 4: look at a thousand videos on there's no reason not

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Speaker 4: to have, you know, any type of education on any subject.

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Speaker 1: For that.

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Speaker 2: Man, let's let's talk about that there. Let's let's let's

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Speaker 2: go back right. Let's let's go back to South Central.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to LA in the beginning for you,

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Speaker 2: you know, as Tank says, you know when someone or

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Speaker 2: when you yourself identified that you were going to be

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Speaker 2: wanted to do with your life, because this isn't always

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Speaker 2: everybody's choice, especially when you're a little kid. And I've

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Speaker 2: known you a long time. You've always been in music.

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Speaker 2: It's been years, you know what I mean. Like you've

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Speaker 2: done your ten thousand hours two or three times. You know,

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Speaker 2: you've done it, you know what I mean? So you know,

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Speaker 2: can you give us, you know, just a rundown of

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Speaker 2: growing up in la growing up in the church, and

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Speaker 2: then what y'all grew up around this whole time.

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Speaker 4: My experience of church was different because my dad was

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Speaker 4: like the nigga and gospel.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, you know, he was the person

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he like you know, had the album, started

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Speaker 1: But he was the only person that was like bringing Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Whitfield out here, bringing John p Key, bringing uh Fred Hammond,

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Speaker 1: He was cool with all of these people.

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Speaker 4: He was the only person on Maddy Moss Clark album

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Speaker 1: Writes all her music, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: She loved my dad so much she took his song,

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Speaker 4: took him under, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So this was like a whole thing.

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Speaker 4: Clifton Netwards, Clifton Edwards, junr So and I've just seen

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Speaker 4: Uncle Charlie and he's like.

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Speaker 1: Man, I know who you want to clift the son.

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Speaker 4: So it's crazy because people know me in that world

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Speaker 4: from that. But growing up, it was like I ain't

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Speaker 4: know what who, none of them niggas was. I just

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Speaker 4: know I'm in church and this sounds crazy, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like this, like I grew up around. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it wasn't like a regular.

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Speaker 4: And they're doing constant your dad's church. This is my grandfather's.

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Speaker 4: My dad was, you know, working their minister music doing

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Speaker 4: you know, all of that and doing concerts and stuff.

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Speaker 4: So how I met Warren was my cousin, Dwan David

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Speaker 4: Grimico Warren.

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Speaker 1: We're in the group.

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Speaker 4: So's the Zion and they my dad like let them,

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Speaker 4: you know, perform at the church.

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Speaker 1: So that was like they first you know, the Johnson sisters,

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Speaker 4: So it's hard like no them moving on. But this

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Speaker 4: was my four years old five years old, you know,

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Speaker 4: being in production. Yeah, and I'm like what is going on?

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Speaker 4: So I'm just around the drums every day, like I

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Speaker 4: just know I want to be a part of something

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So I started being around the drums, start playing the drums,

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Speaker 4: around like four or five.

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Speaker 1: I started, I could, you know, play the drums standing

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Speaker 1: up whatever? Carry service.

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Speaker 4: Then my dad did another live recording, uh around like

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Speaker 1: The song like e flat No, that's flat e flat

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Speaker 4: I went to the church and I practiced the organ,

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the donation.

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Speaker 4: My dad's friend, Ron Thomas. Shout out to Ron Thomas.

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Speaker 4: So he donates the Trinity to the church. Come on, Trinity,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You're practicing crush on you at the church.

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Speaker 4: I'm practicing the music crush trying to figure what you.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't play play offer had a girl

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Speaker 4: Was supposed to know now ye man my head, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: I finally get it, dope, and I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: So he was like, wow, yeah, so my son my

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Speaker 4: Finish to the rules of why graduated early, I'm like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: But the short version is my dad low Keith thought

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Speaker 4: I can't explain that to you, back to your parents,

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Speaker 4: It was a crazy experience, bro, And I mean it

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Speaker 4: Like I probably wouldn't be alive if get myself out

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Speaker 4: So you know, later I went on independent study, go

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Speaker 1: Aliyah the Nissan. Yeah. I was like sixteen and I

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Speaker 4: I was like crazy about it, and my dad was

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Speaker 4: My dad already knew, so he like talked to like yeah,

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Speaker 4: Then I'm about to finish graduating. Of course, the tragic

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like it was no Instagram.

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Speaker 4: Was you know, oh, where are you going to do?

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Speaker 4: Boom on story short. Yeah, I got a studio across

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Speaker 1: See no, So I get to the studio, they got

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Speaker 4: I just met this lady. So I'm like, all right, cool,

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Speaker 4: I think it was like eighteen burning CD. Gave it

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Speaker 1: You know. I got my own studio in here, just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen. So I'm staying up the street by that Denny's.

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Speaker 1: By the day.

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Speaker 2: Are you a church musician at this point, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 4: I'm playing in the church from all the whole time.

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Speaker 4: My dad was paying me, like at first, you know,

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Speaker 4: it was like, we give you like seventy five dollars,

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Speaker 4: you know, didn't get one hundred dollars. And then I

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Speaker 4: it was like, yo, you mind if I take Lamar

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Speaker 4: My guy, my god, my guys paying guys.

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Speaker 1: They paying the five. I need the five. He ain't

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Speaker 1: trying to pay the five, My god, what are you doing?

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Speaker 4: So that's how you know, start getting leveraged and then negotiations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Your son is yeah, he could come play at my church.

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Speaker 1: I'll give him three fifty.

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Speaker 4: I'm hearing the conversations like oh, I'm seeing my value,

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Speaker 4: So now I'm making like I think I think he

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Speaker 4: was like he's too.

439
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: It was two fifty of service.

440
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 4: We did two services on that Sunday and then I

441
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 4: had to go like play praise and worship for like ten.

442
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: Minutes for like one hundred and fifty dollars or something

443
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: like that. I never church.

444
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: I never got more than one hundred and fifty for

445
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 3: us for an entire Sunday.

446
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: These were different times though, to Tanks.

447
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: It's the same Jesus, We'll see what.

448
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,719
Speaker 1: I want to do it do it.

449
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: I knew guys from the church, but I never I

450
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: never seen it from a California since right because the

451
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 2: Bay Area church is different than the La Church. Our

452
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: churches is different, you know, like it's it's not like

453
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 2: you don't really do both in the Bay, either your

454
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 2: street nigga or your church nigga. You're not a church

455
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: street nigga in the Bay. In l A, it mixes,

456
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like literally it mixes. Where

457
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: It's like they was on they were fresh on the

458
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: block to now playing in the church. We don't got

459
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: no gangster musicians, not for us. I never knew them now,

460
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure some niggas gonna be.

461
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: In the common like nigga I've been in the hood. Organ. Okay,

462
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: you're confirming everything, confirming the same thing. For me.

463
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: That was the first time I saw when I came

464
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: to La Yeah, I was like, I was like that

465
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: nigga Robs Banks and he can play.

466
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 2: But it really is something different out here though, you

467
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So you know, please tell a story, bro,

468
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 2: like how did y'all get to the Edmunds Building? How

469
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: did y'all get to the Edmunds Building?

470
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: Uh? Honestly, Like.

471
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: To be truthful, Damon really took a liking to me

472
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: and and.

473
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: Like the production and the stuff that I was doing

474
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: at the time.

475
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: It was I was a little I've always been more musical,

476
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: but at that time, like I told you, there was

477
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: a lot of people that were telling me, you know,

478
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: when you produce, you can't do this.

479
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: You can't you know what I'm saying. So what were

480
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: they tell you not to do? I mean, like, okay,

481
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: so I was signed a warn right and like he

482
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: he was basically telling me, like all the ship that

483
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: I was doing was fire, but I have to find

484
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: a way to make it fit.

485
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: I didn't know what that meant at that time, so

486
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: I just equated that as don't do that ship gotcha.

487
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 4: So it was like, all right, let me do something

488
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: that's safe and you know whatever around here. And I

489
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: was doing whatever I wanted with joy, like as far

490
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 4: as not physically. And those songs were the songs that

491
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: everybody was loving. Like I did a song called Energy

492
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: Kerry Hilson, like all these it was just songs we

493
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 4: were doing that. Everybody was like, yo, this sounds crazy.

494
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: So Damon was hearing, you know, everybody was hearing these

495
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: songs like and he was like, yo, I really love

496
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: like you know what you're doing, like like the musical

497
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 4: you know, Damon?

498
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: So he s you know, Damon has an amazing eye

499
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: for talent, amazing eye for talent here, you know what

500
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: I mean and understanding like who's next?

501
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, like he's he's special

502
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: in that space. Yeah, so you know for him to

503
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, So do you meet Damon before you met Tyres?

504
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm at I'm at Tyree's first, okay.

505
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: And then so is how you got to the building there? Yeah, okay, okay.

506
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: And we were kind of just like you know, of

507
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: course we got the same parking lot.

508
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: Mike is banging on me every day, you know, the

509
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: security guard. Are you here to were you here to

510
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: see him? Mikes me again.

511
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: So, you know, as I'm going on the second flace,

512
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: you know, naturally, sometimes I see tanks, sometimes I see Eric,

513
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm like, I don't want to say nothing.

514
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I like, nig love, I

515
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: know what to do. I was like, what am I

516
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: doing with my hands? I was like, fuck it.

517
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: We're just going in the room doing the ship. And

518
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: one day I think I seen Hi Damon and we

519
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 4: were talking outside and he was like, oh, yeah, I know,

520
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: you know, ain't you boom boom, and Warren and Da

521
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 4: Da Da, and you know what I'm saying, Like, you

522
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: know the conversation, He's like, man, you know, come up

523
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 4: to the floor.

524
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: So we came up to the floor. What I didn't

525
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: know was that you had to sign some ship and

526
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: or be signed. I didn't know that either.

527
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 4: When I came there, but y'all niggas was already a

528
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: part of It's like.

529
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: For new niggas.

530
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, nigga, you gotta when you come up here,

531
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: you gotta sign some ship. When you come on the floor, nigga,

532
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: before you you're not seeing it's a door that's closed.

533
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: You don't know what's behind the door.

534
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's a desk. It's a nice young lady

535
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: right there. Sign this ship and go past the ship.

536
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: I never signed the ship, okay, but I always called Damon,

537
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 4: was like, yo, I'm.

538
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: Right here at the give me. I don't want to

539
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: sign this.

540
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: So you know, so that created the the you know,

541
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 4: the bond and the way that I was coming on

542
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: the floor. You know what I'm saying now, everybody else

543
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's how I like start, you know,

544
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: coming and just seeing what was going on and meet

545
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: Eric and you know, Tony, you know what I'm saying,

546
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 4: start kicking it with Rob Knox, and Rob Knox kind.

547
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Of like showed showed me the play, you know what

548
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he was there.

549
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: All right, this is the room, like, don't ever go

550
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: in there. They're always working in there. Boom boom, that's

551
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 4: when they're writing. This is you can always come in

552
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: my room. And that's Damon's room. All right, cool, all right, boom,

553
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: Damon come out, hey man, you can go on my room.

554
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: So I would just be in his room trying to

555
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: figure shit out, and it was like that's literally yeah Osburgers,

556
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: and that's literally like where and how I may take

557
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 4: you down because he just let me come up on

558
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 4: the floor and I'm just, you know, figuring it out,

559
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: like there was no reason for me to be there,

560
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: but just to learn and be wild by all.

561
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: The niggas that I respected. Story behind. Take you down, Yeah,

562
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: take you down? Okay, Yeah, I'm in Damon's room and.

563
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: I went downstairs to get high because you can't smoke

564
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: in the studio, which I hated. So I went downstairs,

565
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 4: propped the door, get hort or whatever. I come upstairs

566
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 4: and I hear the beat in my head while I'm

567
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 4: smoking and shit, so I'm like, all right, cool, I

568
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: just hear that, like.

569
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Like I all right, I go back upstairs.

570
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: I don't know this shit because I do, you know,

571
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: MPCs and keyboards and shiit. This was my introduction to

572
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: using a doll you know what I'm saying, digital audio

573
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: workstation and we were using logic, so it's just a

574
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: keyboard and logic. I'm like, fuck, let me just hear

575
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: so I'll just go through the ship. I think it

576
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: was some rob kno kids loaded in there. I'm just

577
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: doing shit until I find the ship that I you know,

578
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: do so I do that shit, do.

579
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: The beat, build out the rest of it. It's just going.

580
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: It's going.

581
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: And then I get to the part where I want

582
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: to go to the next section and the MIDI sustain

583
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: is like just going and I don't know how to

584
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 4: put stop there. So I'm like, I don't want to

585
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 4: say I'm too prideful, but I was. I didn't want

586
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: to go until somebody these niggas session up or as

587
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 4: one of you elite as niggas.

588
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm on the bench over here. How do you

589
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: open this gatorade? Like how do you open? So I'm like,

590
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna figure this out. So I'm up

591
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: there just trying to figure it.

592
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: Out, and I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna just move

593
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 4: all the ship to it just die out so on

594
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: the part so that stay.

595
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: So when it does the it's like dud.

596
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: Ship. That wasn't on purpose. That was a real accident.

597
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: And I just didn't want to tell niggas like like

598
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: I accidentally did that, or how do you fix that?

599
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: Nobody said that they like it.

600
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: The bubbles at New Bubbles after they sustained already know what.

601
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: You I didn't know how to drag spliced it even know,

602
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: you know.

603
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: So so when I get to that part after I

604
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: paced it, I you know, play it again.

605
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I turn it up a little bit. Damon comes in

606
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: the room like literally like seven minutes after I'm like

607
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: doing it. He's like, yo, what is this. I'm like,

608
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, like just trying to do something like

609
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: this is going on Chris Brown. And then he.

610
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: Walked out the room, no cap, and I was like, nigga,

611
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: yeah right, you know what I'm saying. I'm thinking about

612
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 4: hair like like that never happens, right, nobody tells you

613
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 4: like I'm going to do this and then they do it.

614
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: That doesn't happen. So I just finished the ship and

615
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: didn't know that Damon took what I did. They finished,

616
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 4: and they did, the bridge went up in a they

617
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 4: went and y'all ended up writing and doing all the shit.

618
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: And I'm on the second floor, you know, regular business,

619
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: and my lawyer called me like, hey, do you have

620
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 4: a single coming out on Chris Brown? I was like,

621
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: uh no, no, Well do I remember the conference? I

622
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: was like no, I don't think so I was like,

623
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: wait do I He was like, we just got something

624
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: from the Underdog saying that you know, I'm just like this, Yeah,

625
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: Like Damon was the first person that told me that

626
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm going to do this, and he did it.

627
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't.

628
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 4: Care what what nobody think.

629
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Whatever.

630
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: If Damon called me today, I'm going to answer the phone.

631
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm just that type of nigga. I'm a loyal nigga,

632
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying.

633
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: So like that was something that they didn't even have

634
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 4: to do, you know, or they could have just took

635
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: the idea and just just said, hey, let's reproduce this

636
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying now, I'm fighting it.

637
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Nah, you didn't really do that.

638
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: We don't care like niggas do that every day because

639
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: you also did it.

640
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: On their exactly. It's not like it was in your computer.

641
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: It was on their Like this is a thing.

642
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: So for them to them to, you know, to stay

643
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: solid in that type of situation because you.

644
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have won that in court. You wouldn't have

645
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: won that in court. Here's the thing. You remember when

646
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: I told you that sheet that everybody's supposed to sign,

647
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: you didn't sign it. You didn't sign. That's the leverage

648
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: I got you.

649
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: So you know, because I didn't sign that sheet, I

650
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: had a little bit more leverage. But at the same time,

651
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: you never needed It wasn't yes about the relationship was cool.

652
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 4: And that's why I like talking about experiences that happened

653
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: like that as well as experiences that don't. You know

654
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's like you have to let

655
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 4: people know, like this ship ain't always fire and it

656
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: can always go however, because they're the underdogs, just stay ship.

657
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 4: So just like all these other artists just getting fire overnight,

658
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: they got the company and stay ship. They want to

659
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: pay you two dollars for the beat? Do you want

660
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,479
Speaker 4: to go viral or not? Take this two dollars? Shut

661
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: the hell up early?

662
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: And was this your first placement? That was my first placement?

663
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: Like that?

664
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 4: That was my first single, That was like my first

665
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 4: big placement. I think the first place, my first placement

666
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: was my very first placement. Is not worth mentioning my

667
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: first place in that first placement that I would like

668
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: to talk about Bobby Valentino Gangster Love with my cousin Swift,

669
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: and really my cousin Swift did the whole beat, he

670
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: had did it. I was working with him at the time,

671
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: and you know, we were the band for Bobby Valentino

672
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: and Tim and Bob really took a liking to us

673
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: and our music and the ship that we was doing

674
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: at the time just wasn't as fire as the ship

675
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: that you know, Swift did. Like we have the musicality

676
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 4: but not the sonics and like, you know, figuring out

677
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 4: the mixed and this ship. So shout out to Swift

678
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 4: not but yeah, that was the first place, man.

679
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: We did. When was your first real check for a placement?

680
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: First real check was I think I was still seventeen.

681
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: I might have been eighteen. It was with Billy Marsa

682
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: gave me the check.

683
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Billy, Billy, that move money.

684
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna find some ship you and me.

685
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he I think it was Formula One was the

686
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: group's name, And there was some beat I did at

687
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: that studio, and you know, they liked it enough to

688
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 4: pay for it.

689
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty five hundred dollars. I was like, oh,

690
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm rich. I ain't never going back to doing that.

691
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: No need more. Yeah, yeah, I got like fifteen of

692
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: these on the CD.

693
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 4: That's left right, Yeah, slots in what we're doing. But yeah, no,

694
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 4: that was like the first real you know what I'm saying.

695
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: And that was like before I start going to underdogs,

696
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That was before I got

697
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: signed a war I got signed a Warring around like

698
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 4: nineteen something like that. Twenty Then t I signed me

699
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: around like twenty three or something. After I did take

700
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: you down around like twenty three twenty four, and then

701
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: we started a production company together and I moved to

702
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: Atlanta to work with him.

703
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: So t I signed you as a producer, we far

704
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: as a writer. Well, we started a production company together. OK.

705
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: So he wanted he wanted to produce, and my lawyer

706
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: basically was like, yo, he wanted he needs like a

707
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: Scott Stores to a doctor dragon. I'm like, nigga, I'm

708
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 4: both like, what do you He's fifty cent I'm Scott's

709
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 4: Stores doctor. But you know, but he had he had

710
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 4: previously did beats. I just didn't know, and I wasn't

711
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: aware of nothing, like I just knew rubber band man.

712
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 4: I wasn't like ever a tip fan, none of the ship.

713
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: So it was just like how did he find you?

714
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: He just he's just heard take you down and look.

715
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: The same attorney gotch So he was talking to my

716
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: attorney and he was like, man, I need somebody that

717
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: can you know, I'm trying to get back on the

718
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 4: beats and I need somebody that can help me, you know,

719
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: formulate the ideas.

720
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I got Mars, you know. Boom boom.

721
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: So we got on three way and you're like, yeah, man,

722
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, hey man, ship man privileged. You know what

723
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, shouting When can you come out to it?

724
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: When can you come out today? Yeah?

725
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 4: Like ship man, I'm ready when you are all right,

726
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get the flight. I send it to you tonight.

727
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 4: Like wait, no, not that fast, like like maybe like

728
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: two days like work on my ride situation. I had

729
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: no car at the time. I remember I walked from

730
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: my apartment to eat. I was on Magnolia, walked up

731
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 4: to the apartment, and this nigga called me. I'm on

732
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 4: a three way.

733
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Like, so we're going to talk about that. Yeah, because

734
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm a timeline guy. Okay, you just said you did

735
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: take you down, had had other deals. When t I called,

736
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: you did not have a car. Just so, like you said,

737
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: we're giving real information about how the music business works,

738
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: absolutely in all transparency. Was it that you did not

739
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: make money off of these things or was it that

740
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: you blew it?

741
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: No? So I had gotten a car accident, and then

742
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 4: after I got in a car accident, I was just

743
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: kind of like, you know, trying to figure my shit out.

744
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: You know, I got to get rise and you know

745
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

746
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 4: So you had a couple of dollars in Yeah, not

747
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: enough to just go get a new car from an

748
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: unprecedented accident. I had enough money to pay my bills,

749
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, stay afloat. So so yeah, that time like

750
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: I always like to say, sacrifice over security. It's easy

751
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 4: to go. I could have went and got a bucket

752
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: or you know, do some shit. But I know that

753
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: if I just keep doing what I'm doing, and you know,

754
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: something's gonna happen.

755
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: Like I e the call that I had, you know

756
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

757
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: So boom, So we had that call and you know,

758
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: and then I'll fly out.

759
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: To go work with him.

760
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: And that was like the first time that somebody actually

761
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 4: paid me that much money cash, you know what I'm saying.

762
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: And my fact, that was the first time I seen

763
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: like somebody just take out their money out their pocket.

764
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Like oh, here go, you know what I'm saying. And

765
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I was like, and that was for you to do

766
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: the production team with him.

767
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like in that band towards any money

768
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 4: that we would receive from our production team. So like

769
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: you know, it was a short project, but you know,

770
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 4: he we did like the Lebron James movie. We did

771
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 4: some different franch like just Random Ship, Young Joe.

772
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: We did, like we had a song on more Thing

773
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: the game.

774
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we do like you know, like five or

775
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: six you know, placements or something like that.

776
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: And then.

777
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 4: And then they have to scream tour and me being

778
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: you know, the workaholic and wanting to do all the ship.

779
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: When I first get out there, He's like, man, get

780
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: whatever you want for you know, the studio. So I'm

781
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: like being modest, I'm like, all right, cool, let's get

782
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: this keyboard. This nigga bought everything for a drum.

783
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: Set, the ship that had the virus TI just because

784
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: it say t I on it. He brought the tr

785
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: he ba look good at the studio. I'm looking at

786
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: the exactly look at the sitio.

787
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: Man, you see my name, see you see what I'm doing.

788
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: I see the Jacko basse bro a replica of that Jacko.

789
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like like.

790
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: You want that bas I'm like, hell no, you know

791
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's like twelve tho ten like

792
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: crazy something crazy, like you want that baby? Like, nah,

793
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: Who're about to leave? We walking out? The guy is like, hey, man,

794
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: where do you want your certificate of a authentication? Like

795
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? Like for the Jocko. This

796
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: nigga bought me a Jacko base. You know what I'm saying.

797
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 4: And I'm like I've been around niggas for since niggas

798
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: been niggas, and he don't know me from a man

799
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 4: on the moon. This man has this the first day

800
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: that he sees the value of me. He knows I

801
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: don't know none of his songs. We're not friends at

802
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: this point. We're just meeting like we're about to do

803
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: music and business together.

804
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Like why are you? Why are you doing this? Southern hospitality?

805
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: Brother, Fuck Southern hospitality. That ship was a start of

806
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: a real bond and friendship and relation.

807
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: What I mean when I say Southern hospitality, it's like

808
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: you find with guys like Tip, like the I mean,

809
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: for some reason, that Southern bag is a limit when

810
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: they get millions of dollars, that ship stretched down there, like.

811
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they literally turned warehouses into clubs in the

812
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: middle of they get a honey bun for every hosting.

813
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: And when they get it, they get it because and

814
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: plus those all those states connected, they aren't connected. It's

815
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: paper bag and one night you're in Mississippi, Georgia the

816
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: real six figures every stop.

817
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: But he saw him saying, that's what I'm saying. That

818
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: saw the value.

819
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: He immediately knew I got to pour into this kid

820
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: in order to get the most out of them for

821
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 3: what we're trying.

822
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: To do together.

823
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: And it's something I say to you all the time,

824
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 2: and you say, you say about going where you want it.

825
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: Reach.

826
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's something people people press. Facts,

827
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: people press at things that aren't for them, our situations

828
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: that aren't for them. Everybody isn't for everybody that's in

829
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: in personal relationships, business relationships, romantic relate, whatever it is.

830
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: People are like, no, no, I just need to be

831
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: with her. She don't really like you.

832
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: Dog right, read the room like she don't really like you.

833
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: And we got to look at business like that too. Facts.

834
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: It's some people that see the value in you and

835
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: they're just like, you know what, he could use that,

836
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: she could use that. This is something that will help

837
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: this thing grow because this is a talented young man

838
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 2: who he don't just want it just to.

839
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Look at it. He gonna he's gonna do something with that. Facts.

840
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: So this's twelve thousand nothing, It don't mean nothing. Motivation

841
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: ale exactly.

842
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: And I just think that's something that's very important. When

843
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: you see somebody that that that you feel like you

844
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: should invest in, You should invest in them. And we've

845
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: done it plenty of times, and sometimes it comes back

846
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: and sometimes it doesn't.

847
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: Right, but.

848
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: I felt like this needed to be invested in, and

849
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: hopefully for some of the people that don't even work

850
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: with me anymore, hopefully I gave them a step up

851
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: exactly into what they're going to become. Always I always

852
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: tell people, man, just if it don't work out, just

853
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: come back and say thank you. That's it, because I'm.

854
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: Gonna make my money. Niggas is prideful, bro, I've.

855
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Been able to make my money in this business, you

856
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So it's like I'm not asking

857
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: you to come back and drop a ten on me

858
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: or something. I'm just saying, when you see me in

859
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: these streets and you are who I thought you would become,

860
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: say thanks.

861
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: And guess what, eighty percent of them niggas is not

862
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: gonna say thanks. So what you have to do is

863
00:44:54,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: have a podcast. Like The reason why I felt like

864
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: I was a lot more advanced than other people was

865
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 4: because I thought that these niggas that were sampling was

866
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: playing all the ship. I thought Timberland was playing everything

867
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 4: I saw. J Dilla was playing everything I thought that was.

868
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: In your mind. You have to play it. You haven't

869
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: you You can't.

870
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: You can't recall those records you never heard, you ain't

871
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: seen them, makeup or nothing.

872
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: So so here's what we share and learn the creativity

873
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: because I used Timberland as my foundation to learn how

874
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: to really produce. So I would on my nine tracks

875
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: on my PV DPM four remake Timberland Records, and I

876
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: didn't know those were samples.

877
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how you did those.

878
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where any of that ship came from.

879
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: But I would just try to make the sound sounds

880
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: something close to.

881
00:45:58,560 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: Whatever I had to do.

882
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 3: And so that's how I learned how to, in a

883
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: sense like sound make make samples within the music that

884
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 3: I make, right, because I didn't start off sampling. But

885
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: then when I got my PC, I was like, oh, ship,

886
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: been killing myself the whole.

887
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: Time, taking three hours to do, take fifteen minutes. I

888
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: bought it.

889
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: I bought a CD store going out of said, going

890
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: out of business, you had boxes of CDs.

891
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: It's just.

892
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: It's right heaving.

893
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: But the fact that y'all could create that, yeah, is

894
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 2: also something that has helped y'all in your.

895
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 4: And that's I think that's what you know that's again

896
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 4: taking the stairs exactly. Yeah, but you just felt you

897
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: didn't know, like like again, we didn't have the insight.

898
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: We not Yo, we're in the studio making the beat.

899
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 4: You don't know how they created the beat. You don't

900
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: know they oh he sampled this and used this way.

901
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: You don't know that great feeling games was in there? Yeah,

902
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: no I did.

903
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: I didn't have I didn't have a call the call

904
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 3: guitar player, so I had to learn guitar voice sings

905
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: so that when I played my nylon.

906
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it sounded like you know.

907
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, like you have to all that. So again,

908
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: not taking the stairs, I mean we really, I mean

909
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 3: not taking the elevator, and we really took stare. Sometimes

910
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: a sand dune keep sliding down.

911
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's whack. Well I'm try it again.

912
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: I would try it again.

913
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: I was crazy, man, But you essential you you Okay,

914
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: when do you get to become a DJ?

915
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Because what when do you get there?

916
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: Because now you have such an understanding of music, and

917
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: now you know how music flows and big becoming a

918
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 3: DJ now is is obviously or is it as easy

919
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 3: a transition as it is from coming from band, and

920
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: it was.

921
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah, it was.

922
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: A lot more easier than what I thought. The real

923
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: thing that happened was I wanted to do it and

924
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: I didn't want to tell nobody because I don't like

925
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 4: doing shit unless I could do it as best as

926
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: I can do it.

927
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: So I practiced for like five years. Yeah. So I

928
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: bought a CDJ around.

929
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: Like maybe like twenty fourteen thirteen, something like that, and

930
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: I just had it in my house and I fuck

931
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: around every now and again, not as not every day,

932
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 4: but you know, just every now and again.

933
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: But I didn't get the concept of it.

934
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: I just knew that I wanted to have it either

935
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 4: as a sampling tool or to be able to incorporate

936
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 4: my music or something, you know. So I just had it.

937
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 4: So I was fucking around, and then I started doing

938
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: this thing on Sundays after church, which is funny, and

939
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: I just start having like a gang of homegirls and

940
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: homies come through. We're just drinking, kicking and smoking, making

941
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 4: beats and all kinds of shit. And then like one

942
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: of those times, I'm like, let me just hook my

943
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: shit up.

944
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: So I hooked my shit up and just start fucking around.

945
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: But fast forward to like maybe three or four years

946
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: later on fire now, and I know how to I've

947
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: already like been like, oh, let me take some of

948
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 4: my musical compositions and put it in the DJ shit

949
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 4: and scratch and like pitch it up and chop shit

950
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 4: up and use it in the beats. So I'm like

951
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: doing all kinds. I'm like, oh shit, I'm in a

952
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 4: studio by myself, like what I figured it out?

953
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: All that shit. I'm like, yeah, like fuck.

954
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: So then by that time, I'm like, well, shit, let

955
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: me just start fucking around with records. So now quarantine

956
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: has hit, and you know, niggas is like you know,

957
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 4: on Twitch. So I was on Twitch DJing and people

958
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 4: be like, oh man, I'll see you.

959
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh thanks man, I needed that boom boom.

960
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 4: I get off Twitch and I got like, you know,

961
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars on my cash up or you know

962
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

963
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: Like the Twitch, I'm like, this is crazy.

964
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: But now I'm looking at the twich and its like

965
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: you are lying for six hours, like six hours, God damn,

966
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: I back hurting the shit, you know what I'm saying.

967
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: But that's when I realized that I really fucking love

968
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 4: that shit. So like the informative and how can I say,

969
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: I like, try to try to get the most information

970
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: that I can, so I hit the best people.

971
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: I knew that DJ, so first I hit battle Cat.

972
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: Battle Cat came through, And once he came through and

973
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 4: showed me, it changed my whole shit. I was like, oh,

974
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: I can produce while I am DJing, and that just

975
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: changed my whole shit. So now I'm the drummer, I'm

976
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: the musician, I could be the keyboard player, I could

977
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: take the keys from this record, because now it's about

978
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: catalog and knowing as much music as possible.

979
00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: So anything I.

980
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 4: Here, I'm like, okay, ship, I can put damn that

981
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder those strings from Village Ghetto Land will go

982
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: crazy on this.

983
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying.

984
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: Like, now you're dissecting it as musical instruments.

985
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 3: And you all to just the songs, and because you

986
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: used to you couldn't isolate back in the day, it's

987
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: now the isolation is great.

988
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: So oh my god. I was like, after I've learned that,

989
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm doing like I had our DJ

990
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: artistic pull up a couple other DJs you know, just

991
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 4: to make sure I was doing like, you know, doing

992
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: my ship. And after that it was a wrap. I

993
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 4: called David Busters, Yo, I want to do a West

994
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: Coast Wednesdays. I want to come up there, and.

995
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: Called Dare I love Nigga. I love that. I don't

996
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: know where that was. It was like Nigga said. The

997
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: first thing I did called David Bus.

998
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: This was the perfect opportunity to DJ, Like you get

999
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: to Dja bus is this?

1000
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm just which Hollywood in Hollywood? The one in Hollywood?

1001
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: But hear me out the first the first I had

1002
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 4: a meet in that Daving Busters, just because I love

1003
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 4: David Busters and I was wanting to do something there.

1004
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 4: But you know, once I start DJing, I'm like, oh shit,

1005
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: this would be perfect, like like a DJ there just

1006
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 4: to you know, see what the fuck is going on

1007
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 4: before I start, you know, hitting.

1008
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: Up these lounges and clubs and charging a million.

1009
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: Dollars cool testing ground, yeah, because they're not here to

1010
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: see me anywhay. You're here to go have fun. And

1011
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 4: then if you hear something fire like, oh shit, you

1012
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like the challenge, so boom,

1013
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 4: I hit them up West Coast Wednesdays, I'm up there

1014
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: a DJ, and they made it work.

1015
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: And then.

1016
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: We start just like getting so many motherfuckers. That was

1017
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 4: just like, yo, so what are you gonna do next?

1018
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 4: And we and now my regular life as my guy

1019
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 4: Mars or my great life as my guy Mars. You know,

1020
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 4: it's still moving and I'm like trying to just be

1021
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 4: a DJ, and it's like, Nigga, you got a session.

1022
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 4: The next one, you may have to go out of town. Yeah,

1023
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 4: you may have to go yeah exactly. So I'm like,

1024
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 4: but I really love it, so realize I couldn't really

1025
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: do it, So I just start putting other people in

1026
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 4: a position to be there, you know what I'm saying,

1027
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 4: Like blast DJ, you know.

1028
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: Crystal to DJ, different people like that.

1029
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: And you know, that turned into like a great relationship

1030
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: to be able to have like all the daving Busters'

1031
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: locations in California. So I start curating talent for all

1032
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 4: it so all six locations like every.

1033
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Week, yeah, for like two months.

1034
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 4: But the way that I did it though, was I

1035
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: had I would go on my live and I'd be like, yo,

1036
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 4: if you are a dope artist, a dope singer, you know,

1037
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: what I'm.

1038
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: Saying, like, come on my live right now. I want

1039
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: to hear what you got. Boom boom.

1040
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: I can get you some food, pay two hundred and

1041
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 4: fifty dollars, and you can come perform at Daving Busters.

1042
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: So that was like something like people start, you know,

1043
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 4: and they follow him will it's hit me up the

1044
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: Orange County.

1045
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Hey, who is Taylor? Taylor?

1046
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 4: She was amazing? Or who is this person? Like they

1047
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: came late and they asking for drinks and they're on

1048
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: the outside smoking weed all that. So it's like you

1049
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: get to experience, you know what I'm saying, like the

1050
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 4: whole ship.

1051
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and what comes with.

1052
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 4: And given opportunity exactly. So it was like I'm not

1053
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: fucking up your opportunity. You take on you and you

1054
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, I'm not in San Diego. If

1055
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: you don't show up, that's on you, you.

1056
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.

1057
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 4: So I think it was dope because they gave me

1058
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: a platform to be able to extend the opportunities are

1059
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 4: already give you know what I'm saying. But it was,

1060
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 4: you know, a fire thing to be able to DJ

1061
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 4: and then still be able to transition. So when I

1062
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 4: worked with Brody and he got his deal and I

1063
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: started doing playing for him a musical director for him,

1064
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: my setup is I'm his DJ, So have my DJ

1065
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: set up my role and the keyboard.

1066
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm doing the Oh yeah, you know

1067
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: what it's like.

1068
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 4: So now it's a part of the experience, and you know,

1069
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 4: me hearing things a certain way, I can execute it

1070
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: opposed to just me being there just DJing, right, you

1071
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying and not playing so.

1072
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: All because your daddy told you to go play the

1073
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 2: organ while he's saying amazing. Probably for sure, that's what

1074
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: it all comes back. As you're doing that. I'm watching

1075
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: you as a little confused at first, and control of

1076
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: the church, you know what I mean, Like all of

1077
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 2: these things, and that's we go back to it.

1078
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: Stop skipping steps.

1079
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Right, These things will lead to other things, you know

1080
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: what I mean. And and the more you put into it,

1081
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: the more it gives back to you, sir, you know

1082
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: what I mean. I appreciate this to my son, I mean,

1083
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, like me and him talk about it in

1084
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: his life and the things that he wants to do.

1085
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, just put the work in, but the

1086
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: specific work. You know what I mean, Because there is

1087
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: a thing called a hamster whill where you running place.

1088
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: Facts I'm running, you know what I mean.

1089
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: And there's a difference between an actual running a marathon

1090
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: and getting somewhere or being on this hamster wheel and

1091
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: going nowhere. Work can be put in, but if you

1092
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: haven't identified Okay, I'm going to work at A B

1093
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 2: and C. This is going to get me to this step.

1094
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 2: This like life takes planning right right, even on accident.

1095
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: Facts like life takes you gotta be prepared for when

1096
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: that opportunity comes for you, so or you know, when

1097
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: you have that chance to say, you know what, I'm

1098
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: gonna call David Busters because I just like it. But

1099
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: then going and actually delivering something right, because on the

1100
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: other side of that, you are of value to this

1101
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 2: place because now people are buying more little mini burgers.

1102
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: Right, Niggas is shooting more hoops right.

1103
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Because they know that Mars, my guy, Mars has West

1104
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: Coast Wednesdays and he's showing new talent. But then on

1105
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: the flip side of that, you're giving them an opportunity.

1106
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: So now you you're.

1107
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 4: Everything, your reach is grown as you were introduced, fact.

1108
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: As you were introduced love. You know, I appreciate that.

1109
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 4: Man. I just think, you know, it's a lot of

1110
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 4: people that have been before us that we've taken on

1111
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 4: a lot of you know, great experiences, great memories, great

1112
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: traits from these people, and also the bad experiences we've

1113
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: been able to, you know, navigate to where we know

1114
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 4: how to inform other people, whether you take it or not.

1115
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: We could tell just hey, the stove I'm just letting

1116
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, the stove is hot. You know what I'm saying.

1117
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: As long as I can do that, I don't feel,

1118
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: you know, as bad. And as long as I can

1119
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: give as much as I can give while I'm here,

1120
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: then I'm good.

1121
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Because you know, I just want to die empty. That's it.

1122
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I want everything that I'm

1123
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: trying to do to be done, you know what I'm saying.

1124
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: Like that's that's the whole point. Like my son is

1125
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: five years old, and you know, i'd say the people

1126
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 4: that I used to talking to the most are not

1127
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 4: here anymore, you know what I'm saying.

1128
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: So like it.

1129
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: Starts putting, it gives you more real perspective perspectives. You

1130
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying of like what you're doing with

1131
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: your time, and I would rather not just you know,

1132
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 4: come here and just be like yeah, man, you know,

1133
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 4: thanks to me talk about all the shit and not

1134
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 4: be able to give real information, real valuable information, and

1135
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: you know as much as I can while I'm here,

1136
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1137
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: So I think that's like the main thing is just.

1138
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I want I want to dj, I want

1139
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: to sing, I want to write, I want to do

1140
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: all the ship I know I can do. You know

1141
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, especially if it's people out here that's doing.

1142
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: It way more terribly.

1143
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: Wan more terribly, you know, more terribly.

1144
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know that that is something where I

1145
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: think for me and and you know, people were asking

1146
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: me about singing again, right and now why again it's

1147
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 2: what do you mean again? Well, you know, I take

1148
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: I took I guess I could say I take I've

1149
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: taken breaks, but I took a long break to focus

1150
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: on another part of my career and things that I

1151
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: wanted to develop as far as you know, just just

1152
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 2: my mind and me being on the executive side, so

1153
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: I couldn't focus on being an artist at that time

1154
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: or doing songs, but not to the level I wanted

1155
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: to do the mat so, but I think, you know,

1156
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 2: once Chank truly convinced me to get back into that space.

1157
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: I think the outlook I took on it was I'll

1158
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: just create the music that I don't hear that I

1159
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 2: would like to hear, not even caring about whatever somebody

1160
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 2: else made or didn't make, and me feeling a way

1161
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 2: about or having an opinion about whatever they were making.

1162
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know what, I would actually

1163
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: like to hear this song, even if it was on

1164
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: somebody else, So you know whatout singing fire, you know

1165
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: what I mean? And that was a big part of

1166
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 2: the motivation for me. It's like, okay, anything, you know

1167
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: what I mean? Okay our podcast. A big part of

1168
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: our podcast is that we wanted to give something. We

1169
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: wanted to be an alternative to certain things. I'm not

1170
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: going to complain about whatever other podcasts and what they

1171
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: say on their own, it doesn't matter to me, you

1172
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I actually salute them for going

1173
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: and doing the work. But on the R and B

1174
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: Money podcast, right cast is set a certain way. We're

1175
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: going to do a certain thing here. We're going we're

1176
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: going to celebrate, we're going to give information, we're going

1177
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: to talk about the journey, and we're going to talk

1178
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: about the journey with people from different walks of life. Yes,

1179
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: it's called the R and B Money Podcast. As soon

1180
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: as you hear R and B, that's the first thing

1181
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 2: you're thinking. But me and this man aren't.

1182
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 4: I'm about to say, y'all, niggas ain't gonna not never

1183
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 4: not be here right this is.

1184
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1185
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: So for us, I can interview anybody off the street

1186
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: if I want to, because we're gonna get back to

1187
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: the R and B within it. But it's just creating

1188
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: things that we would like to see. And that's truly,

1189
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: in my opinion, what God gave us, absolutely the gift

1190
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 2: to do that.

1191
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1192
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like that, Okay. I think I came

1193
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: up with an idea for the things I do like

1194
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: and maybe some more people will like it, you know

1195
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I think you've you've done really well.

1196
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 2: And that's face And even because Tank Tank Tank kind

1197
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 2: of touched on.

1198
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: This earlier, as far as.

1199
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 2: Your desography, take you down sounds nothing like stronger. Yeah,

1200
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: are stronger sounds nothing like Compton Compton, Yeah are Compton sounds?

1201
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: Nothing like what it feels like? Right, you know what

1202
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: I mean?

1203
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: Like those are energy, you know what I'm saying.

1204
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: None of these records soundedlike So to me, what I

1205
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: believe is that these are just records you liked and

1206
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: something you wanted to hear, and now people have taken

1207
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 2: to them for sure, and you've created a career off

1208
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: of it.

1209
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 3: How you weren't like you as you evolved. It's like

1210
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 3: you evolved into so many things to where there's no box,

1211
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: there's nothing that can hold you. So from a creative standpoint,

1212
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: like you become, you become limitless. You can walk in

1213
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 3: any room.

1214
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I think there's I think there that comes

1215
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 4: with the intention as well, you know what I'm saying,

1216
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: because you know, I can intend on being the best

1217
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: pop producer and just stay in that lane, you know

1218
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think my thing was I've always

1219
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: been about the music and the ego is the biggest ego.

1220
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: Is the song for me.

1221
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: So it's like if I'm walking into a room to

1222
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: contribute something, I'm trying to do the best for the song.

1223
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: It's not about it's not about your signature.

1224
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I never thought of like doing a tag

1225
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 4: or none of that shit, because I want you to

1226
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: like the music before you like me.

1227
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I want you or

1228
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: like me for the music. You know what I'm saying.

1229
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: But that's what you're processing and getting first. Is the music,

1230
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 4: getting an emotion, the education, all of the things we

1231
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 4: were just talking about. You're getting all that with what

1232
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm putting into the music. So why would I take

1233
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: that away by saying Mike got mars on the beat

1234
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: and then.

1235
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: Take you down? Is that the same?

1236
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 4: Why you know what I'm saying, It's like it's taken

1237
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 4: from me. It was taken away from the song. So

1238
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 4: I never, like I said, I never even envisioned working

1239
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: with artists. I just vision making music. Then I started

1240
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 4: working with artists, It's like, Okay, how can I make

1241
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 4: the best song? Not like how can I make the

1242
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 4: world know it's me? My thing was I felt like

1243
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: it was a compliment if.

1244
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: You didn't know it was me. It's tailoring at all time,

1245
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I didn't want it

1246
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: to high level. I didn't want no.

1247
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: It's his suit you're making. You're making tailor mates exactly

1248
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: for those particular artists, and nobody should be able to

1249
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 3: wear that, and you shouldn't even be able to wear

1250
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 3: exactly exactly.

1251
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: So on this path and you know, becoming a great producer, songwriter,

1252
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: DJ artists.

1253
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Like, what do you see next for you?

1254
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 4: Well, I'm getting a little older, so now I'm more

1255
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 4: so we.

1256
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: Don't get all the music, bro, Yeah, we don't get

1257
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: all the music. We get old as performers, we get older.

1258
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: Put on go put on a Marshmallow helmet man, and

1259
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: they'll never know how never know.

1260
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Never know.

1261
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't even know who marshmallow. I was about to say,

1262
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: I know, I ain't even got Me and him have

1263
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: probably been in the same room.

1264
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: I've seen him literally said that no ship. Yeah, like

1265
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: it was literally. I was like, bro, he could have

1266
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: been right next to me at Starbucks. Bro, like I was.

1267
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 2: I was bowling one day and saw Gene Simmons and

1268
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I was young, I was younger, right,

1269
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: And I was trying to put it to two together.

1270
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, you look familiar, but he don't.

1271
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: Can you stick your tongue out really quick for me?

1272
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: Paul No, but that's how he was known. No, man, I'm.

1273
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 2: Sorry, stay trying to go viral stick a while.

1274
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: Bro. You know what, No, I didn't let me off

1275
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: the car.

1276
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: I was thinking face boy, you know, contract boy, face

1277
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 4: paint man, little talk.

1278
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and we're gonna. Yes, we're gonna, and we

1279
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: don't plan on quitting no time soon either.

1280
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1281
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Like we go, we're gonna do our thing for a minute.

1282
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: That's how we look into it ain't fun no more.

1283
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: Right now, we're having a great time.

1284
01:06:53,200 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: You understand me? Going? He going? I know it was,

1285
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: it was about to happen. Oh ship, this is my

1286
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: minister of music.

1287
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, brother Mars, my my guy Mars. In

1288
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: your journeys through the galaxies, you've heard some music.

1289
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: Yes, you've made some music. A lot of timers talk

1290
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: about you've gotten stronger, You've gotten stronger. Yeah, we want

1291
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: to know from all this music, what's your mm hmm.

1292
01:07:58,560 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: Fun?

1293
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're top five, top five, Yes, you're top five?

1294
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: Are the singers aread me? So we are to know?

1295
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: We know you know the galaxy your top yeah, top

1296
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: your f yeah yeah, you hear me. You understand me.

1297
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

1298
01:08:59,360 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1299
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, before you say your top five though, let's shout

1300
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: out the merch. Oh love, you know what I mean,

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01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 2: because I know they've been paying attention to they've been

1302
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: seeing it.

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01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: That's all. Come onst listen. We are celebrating business in here. Yes,

1304
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: get to the side, Come on, come on.

1305
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in my bio or my got Mars dot com.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 4: But it's in my bio on Instagram, my got mars. Uh,

1307
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 4: we got merch. We got candles.

1308
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, let me tell you about this.

1309
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,799
Speaker 4: So I got a candle. Oh yeah, I got a candle.

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 4: We got the regular candle. And then I have a

1311
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 4: sound sent candle. Sound sent candle comes with a QR

1312
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 4: code and I produced music exclusively for that candle that

1313
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 4: only fifty people will get exclusivity. So yeah, yeah, that's

1314
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,759
Speaker 4: love flames dot com. And then I have some wine,

1315
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 4: a wine line that just started as well, and that's

1316
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 4: wine in Big dot com.

1317
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: So do you be in your backyard stepping on grapes? No,

1318
01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: but I am going to go to a vineyard. I know.

1319
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm not like a foot.

1320
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 3: Never with my feet down, alright, my guy Mars, Yes, sir,

1321
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 3: your Top five R and B Singers by R and

1322
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 3: B Singers.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, just singing, just singing. I'm going, Charlie Wilson,

1324
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: come on, it's like an usher Mario somewhere. You want

1325
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 1: what you make it. You're making them tied for one. Yeah,

1326
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: I might have to tie for one Mario, Mario Raymond,

1327
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: Mario Raymond. Okay, and then we're gonna go. I'm gonna

1328
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: go tie.

1329
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1330
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: He's so Yeah, I like it cold. That niggas cold.

1331
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I gotta put in the vie. I

1332
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: gotta put tank in the vibe.

1333
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy because in the vine in there, in there,

1334
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: you got your blue sweat suit on the.

1335
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: Lord to you, I know it is, it's on, but

1336
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: it's yeah, that ain't no to me. Soon I need

1337
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 1: wanted them to travel. It might be to be I

1338
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: got to be sweat suit though. I think I was

1339
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: on a movie to be. We gotta call. Yeah, yeah,

1340
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: thank you for the I'm gonna go folk cool.

1341
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 4: You know what this is gonna be just this is

1342
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 4: just my personal one, my personal Yeah. I know they

1343
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 4: know what I'm about to say. I'm going, Michael McDonald.

1344
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: What do you mean Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that.

1345
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 3: Nigga just saying I don't think that would be niggat

1346
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: so I think that's Cole Cole.

1347
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, rolling. I love Michael McDonald, love Michael McDonald.

1348
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: I always I wanted to like have them, like, you know,

1349
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: singing at my wedding or something, but just have to

1350
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 4: taken too long.

1351
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: Mars, your top five R and B Songs, Top five

1352
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: R and B Songs take you down? Is up there

1353
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: for sure? Why not put your record there? Yeah, I'm

1354
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: gonna go human Nature.

1355
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 4: It gotta be a baby song, probably whip a peel, Yeah,

1356
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 4: whatever you want, pretty brown eyes. And then I'm like,

1357
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: I close it off with either lady or how does

1358
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:20,839
Speaker 4: it feel by D'Angelo. I'm tired for either.

1359
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: One of those. I like it.

1360
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 4: I don't think I like it. I don't think di'angelo's

1361
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 4: catalog it's talked about enough, not at all.

1362
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, let's see un she got over there.

1363
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: I can't let him leave. Just ship. Listen, you watched

1364
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: the podcast. Yeah, I ain't saying no nigga, ain't saying

1365
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: no names. Yeah, saying no names, saying no names? Where

1366
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: you are.

1367
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: What you did?

1368
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: Don't say? She ain't say you got this podcast just

1369
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: a show off. That's great. Shop got furnishing moment and

1370
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: everything here.

1371
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: Man.

1372
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know where we at. You know where we at? Man,

1373
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: you know where we're at. Man, Yeah, man, we have to.

1374
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: I ain't saying the name segment of the show. Very

1375
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: you didn't. Yeah, yeah, I know you didn't. Sainth it

1376
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: sat it right, So.

1377
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 2: Right now, tell us a story, funnyer fucked up, a

1378
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: funny and fucked up travel mars.

1379
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: It could be your guy.

1380
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: I could not be your guy girl. This this happened

1381
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: with you know what I mean? The only rule to

1382
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: this game is you can't say no names.

1383
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: That's all we that's all we ad. Okay, okay, some

1384
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: fucked up ship if you would like, if you would

1385
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: like what I would like?

1386
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1387
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1388
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 4: The first thing that comes to my mind is this

1389
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: session I had with this peculiar individual.

1390
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, you've definitely been hanging out with t I this. No,

1391
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm not really hanging I'll be watching a lot of

1392
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: no like, No, it was really peculiar. Marvin Gay, ain't

1393
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: that peculiar. I'm talking about the just saying I heard

1394
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: it from Marvin first.

1395
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 4: But anyway, No, it was a peculiar individual because I

1396
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 4: can't say they name, And it was a peculiar session

1397
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 4: because the individual wanted me, wanted me to work with

1398
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 4: somebody else, and the combo was crazy. So I was

1399
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 4: in there working and we're doing a remix for a song.

1400
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: And while we're doing the song, the person that I'm

1401
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 4: working with, it's two producers, it's me and somebody else.

1402
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 4: And the person I'm working with he like, you know,

1403
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 4: it's programming the drums and stuff. So he programs the

1404
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 4: eight O eights and I'm like, they not really like pitched,

1405
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 4: like they're not really in key, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1406
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 4: you should just have me do it on the you know,

1407
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 4: on the keyboard and I can like make it like

1408
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: an ad away.

1409
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: He's like, man, it's just this this sounds sound fire boom.

1410
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 4: I'm all right, cool, excuse me. So the dude comes in,

1411
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 4: he's like, yo, let me hear what y'all work on.

1412
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 4: You played the song and he's like, you know, bob

1413
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 4: into it. Then he turned the beat off and he's

1414
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: like he turned the beat off. He's like, yeah, this

1415
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 4: is fire. It's just like the ataways is just like

1416
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 4: out of tune. I look at this nigga like, he

1417
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 4: was like, oh man, he was like, I mean like

1418
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: I like it. It's like hip hop. But he was like,

1419
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just send it to my weight. Let me

1420
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 4: think of the right word. He said, I'm gonna send

1421
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 4: this to my aweight tuner. And I was like, and

1422
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 4: this is mars. Back in the day, I was a

1423
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 4: lot less filtered and not as slow to speak, I

1424
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 4: mean not, you know. So He's like, you know, this

1425
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 4: is a very expensive conversation, like these are elite people.

1426
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm just here and I'm like.

1427
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 4: Yoh, why why you want to send it to you

1428
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 4: tuner if you've got an awight tuner.

1429
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: Right here hmm.

1430
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 4: And he was like, well, if I have an aweight

1431
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 4: tuner right here, why aren't the aweights tuned?

1432
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to be like, because you're an asshole,

1433
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: but I and I was like, that was like the

1434
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: end of me. Just I just melted. After that. I

1435
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: was like, maybe I should not say ship to people.

1436
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: I should say shit too.

1437
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 4: It was the first time I like really got soun

1438
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,879
Speaker 4: like in front of everybody.

1439
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: I didn't care, but the person said that the matter

1440
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 1: of my song sung.

1441
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like so it's almost like you should have

1442
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 3: caught that, which I did, which you did, but but

1443
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 3: he's not acknowledging the producers, not.

1444
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: You.

1445
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's sick.

1446
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, just melted and just all right,

1447
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying this to you eight away to it right now,

1448
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 4: almost track track up the.

1449
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: Beats, like all right, cool.

1450
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 4: Then from that moment on, I knew just you know,

1451
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 4: if it's my session then and like say the things

1452
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about.

1453
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're not, if not asking, you

1454
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: got it, Champ, you better than me to.

1455
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, we should tune this nigga up,

1456
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, no where I'm from tuning, you know,

1457
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: just for y'all.

1458
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: Just you know, I showed what her this because that

1459
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 3: was he's trashy and I've heard so many When you

1460
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: said that, my skin started crawling because nothing irks me

1461
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 3: more than an.

1462
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: Out out of tune eight oh eight.

1463
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 3: And there are hit records, yes with with out of

1464
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: tune o eight And when I hear that ship in

1465
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 3: the club, I was like, this, Jesus, But.

1466
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: I'm also trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure

1467
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 2: out what level. You gotta be on to have an

1468
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 2: eight oh eight tuner. I haven't achieved that level yet.

1469
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: You got it. Got to be a part of my flock.

1470
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 3: You gotta be the laziest. Listen, this is what this

1471
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 3: is what an eight o eight tuna is equivalent to. Yeah,

1472
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 3: he pulls the grapes off the stems.

1473
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: That's the equivalent of an a grateful because that's just

1474
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: like one we need him to.

1475
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: You know, he pulls it for me and then I

1476
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: eat it. You pause, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1477
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 3: that's the equivalent. That's how ridiculous that is that it's

1478
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: not tuned, because all you have to do is this

1479
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: or that.

1480
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey man, this is a business full of flaws.

1481
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure what he said it was.

1482
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 4: And he was wearing taxedo just to add and so

1483
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 4: to injury and the dummer. But the artist artist on

1484
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 4: purpose or yes, did he have somewhere to go? He

1485
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 4: just came back from somewhere.

1486
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 3: Somewhere he had when he said that he had he had.

1487
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 1: It on at the beginning of the session. Yeah, and

1488
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: he left and he came back with the same taxi on.

1489
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: He had to text it on all day. It was

1490
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: his body. He had business, big business man. Business business

1491
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: bothered me. So yeah, there's people getting paid to eight O.

1492
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: Wait's out here, so you know, never know, listen, if

1493
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: you'all are paying top dollars to eight eight, I'm your guy.

1494
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: Ain't going for your grapes. Wait, I got all the

1495
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: stuff you need to away. May we got some news

1496
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 3: for you.

1497
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: Uh mars my guy. Man, thank you, brother, Thank you

1498
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: for real to make sure you know your family with that.

1499
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, it's all you belong up here, your information

1500
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: and and and what you what you continue to contribute

1501
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: to this thing. Man. People got to know that people

1502
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: know who you are. And this is you know, this

1503
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 1: is a beautiful thing with what you're doing. And I'm

1504
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: just glad. You know. The narrative is what it is.

1505
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like the format, you know,

1506
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 4: it's fun. You know, it's informative, you know what I'm saying,

1507
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 4: and it's it's something that our culture needs.

1508
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: You know, appreciate you. I appreciate you, man, Flowers and all. Man,

1509
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: that's what we do.

1510
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 3: Then you know, you know, eventually when you get around

1511
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 3: to it, you know, maybe maybe you'll producing music for us.

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Speaker 1: Man, Come on, to the studio and start playing.

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Speaker 3: You know that you've been on the pile here. You

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Speaker 3: know we were up one. Come on, you know players,

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Speaker 3: don't keep going. I'm just starting it up there now,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Need that hit stage.

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Speaker 1: That's Valentine and this is the R and B Money.

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Speaker 4: Podcast authority on all things R and D and uh

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Speaker 3: Money.

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Speaker 2: R and B Money is a production of the Black

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