WEBVTT - 2023 Week 8 Preview 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:06.280 The Around the NFL podcast ran in two up bund 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:07.800 saw this week. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:11.719 From the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:17.040 the Week eight preview. I'm Dan hansis Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:18.760 Mark Sessler. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.960 You know what the buzzsaw is this week? 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.520 It is the middle of the dang season and there 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.400 ain't no byes sixteen. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.160 Football games and we mean Thursday and Monday. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.520 Yeah, and we you know, we were I was acknowledging. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.800 I think you were agree that, like I don't track 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.519 like buys obsessively until like the week is upon us. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.480 And I thought, we're in this nice little comfort zone 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.680 where like six teams are having the little week. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.159 It's like get one game off the But yeah, no, bro, 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.560 I was a total buzzsaw buzzsaw bangjob. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.960 You know what the buzzey is my lox record right now. 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.120 That's that's that's how you come into the show. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.400 Oh wow. They they brought it up on that graphic 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:01.320 at le say. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.720 Greg Rise and Ghoul six and one, Damn Tansas four 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.080 and three Westling Bros. Four and three Dark Sessler under 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.680 the five hundred mark. That's like being under the Mendoza 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.000 line in baseball mark getting under two hundred. I gotta 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.399 I got to get that up a little. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.800 I am going to shift into what's good for the 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.000 show at this point. Oh, don't do that. I'm not 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.959 gonna know. I'm going to try to win. Yeah, but 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.400 I'm going to do it in a with some flare, Okay. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.600 And also, I guess we could use this as a 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.559 congratulate Greg on another title. 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:29.520 No, there's too much. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.679 I don't know why. It's it's a buzz saw this 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.119 week to write that. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.240 So, I don't know if we can we have Eric 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.720 behind the glass Madison, like, do we want to just 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:40.640 end it right now? 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.440 Have you mathematically clinched yet? It's you're that far ahead. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.240 Well, winning, as I said before the season, winning four 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.520 out of five seasons would mean the end of the 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.640 entire segment because well, people just decide there's no drama 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:53.880 to it. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.120 Well or danon Marker having literally no fun. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.600 Yeah, I think I think you're mistaken about the power 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.200 dynamic a little bit. But the same time, congratulations. I 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.800 also not accepting this. It's the only way. See, it's 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.000 the only thing that is what gets through Greg's armor. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.760 Prematurely congratulating him on Picks competition. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:13.320 There was the year. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:15.600 There was a year that I won this. It was 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.840 like half a decade ago. We were all younger, but like, 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:19.760 well you tied, you tied for the time. No, no, no, 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:20.320 this was different. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:24.000 There was I waited out. Yeah it was me versus 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:24.720 West right down. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.400 I think he won. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:26.519 You might have won the first one. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.280 Well this is I put the trophy on Wes's desk 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.600 announcing was the winner around week and it got into 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.240 his head big time. It's not easy to do that 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.120 with Wes, but that did and I prevailed. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.320 And really, maybe the darkest of the dark Sessler moments 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.200 is when you and I had a lock off Super 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.639 Bowl Bengals Rams and I needed the Rams to win 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.680 and Mark needed the Bengals. And when Aaron Donald flashed 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.400 around that edge and knocked that ball and forced the incompletion. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.079 Mark came back about three months later. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:57.639 Yeah, we didn't. We didn't see him the rest of 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.280 the night. There's all these pictures with us, with all 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.320 the West bros. Leaving the stadium. Where's Mark. 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.280 I left early and came back to the office and 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.960 just like it was like, oh, it's a Super Bowl, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.120 but I've got other priorities. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.760 Yeah, okay, all right, so why would you want to 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.359 take this element the intensity and the rivalries of the 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.840 picks competition? But that this one's over, so we look 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.639 ahead to twenty twenty four. All right, now, Week eight, 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:24.080 we gave you the Island Games of the primetime games 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.920 we broke down as part of the QB Index episode 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:27.560 with Nick Shook. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:28.720 Please check that out. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.320 All right, Time for the first overall pick, presented by 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.519 Draft Kings and I have the first overall picked, and 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:39.040 this one is it couldn't be easier for me. We're 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.000 gonna go to Santa Clara and we're going to talk 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.600 about the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:48.200 We think, we. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.440 Think figured it out a little bit before thereby obviously 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.640 they took care of business. The offense came to life 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.000 against Arizona in Week five, they kind of struggle and 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 lean on their defense. Well, the offense struggles after a 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.200 hot start against Seattle, and then they lean on their 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.440 defense to close out the Seahawks just barely. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.080 So it's like, maybe they're good, maybe they're not. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.520 Then you have the Niners, who started out hot as 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.800 a pistol five and zero killing everybody and then they 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.680 dropped two very close games that went right down to 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.520 the final plays nineteen seventeen to the Browns twenty two 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:22.600 to seventeen to the Vikings. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:26.359 Yes, seventeen points back to back weeks. So now they're back. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.200 Home after two tough road losses, and they might have 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.480 a new quarterback, Mark Sessler, because Brock Purdy went into 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.080 the concussion protocol, and as we've seen this season, it 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.279 seems more rock solid than ever. If you go in 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.520 that protocol, you're probably out for the week. So it 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:41.520 could be Sam Darnaldtown. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:42.600 Yeah, there's very little. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.000 I think there's been like one player in the last 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:49.599 year that went into protocol at this period and played 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:50.360 like that weekend. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.200 It just doesn't happen. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 Chefter tweeted that out and then everyone pointed out how 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.800 many times that's not true that it took me like 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:56.760 twenty percent of the time. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:57.720 Well, thank you, Adam Chef. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.320 But a great, great opening salvo by my for it 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.800 to be a midweek one where they didn't catch it 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.480 on Monday night, which again, this is happening a lot 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.159 where they don't catch it at the time, just saying 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:07.359 like that. 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.640 Wait, one in five players that go into the protocol 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:10.320 or something like that. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.920 I think there was like twenty something percent has been 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:14.440 able to like Moley Kyle. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:20.160 Okay, so I I do think though, you know, pretty 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.920 to me, I feel like I always want to defend 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.360 him and Dan, I think you're in the same camp 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.919 and these people that just want to like, you're just 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.880 the mid level guy. It's not because of you that 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.880 you're succeeding. He's had a couple tough weeks. But isn't 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.440 there this sort of sense that everyone's waiting to see 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.200 Sam Darnald in this offense, largely because like Kyle Shanahan 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:41.000 was like, you know, verbally unfurling Sea poems about Sam Donald. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.279 Everyone obvious the Donald hive, and there's another it's huge. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:45.000 It's the hive. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.080 It's not going away, and there would be reasons for 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.839 the hive to a dissembled, but like the hive is around, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.640 and I think there's like a little bit of juice 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.880 around the concept of like can Shanahan do with Sam 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.360 Darnald what no one else has been able to do? 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.120 And I kind of find it fascinating for that reason. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.480 Interesting because there wasn't much of a Sam Donald hive 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.680 when I've been pounding the table for him the last 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.480 three or four years. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:09.760 J T. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:15.200 O'Sullivan, Mina Chimes, dan Orlowski. There are so many right 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.120 that Daniel Jeremiah that puts so much stock into Donald 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.520 pre draft and have stuck with him. And then he 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.560 does tend to start the seasons with these teams, whether 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.880 it was you know, the Panthers a year ago, when 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.440 he first comes out, like first couple games of the season, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.680 Donald has been better. And look, he doesn't need to 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.160 be incredible, he just needs to be Nick Mullins as 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.400 a rookie. Nick Mullens as a rookie is averaging like 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.640 eight yards per attempt. I don't think he's as good 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:46.240 as Brock Purdy, but I also don't think this Bengals 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.000 defense is nearly as good as its reputation has been 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.400 this year. You know, I was thinking hard about locking 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.640 this game before it flipped from Purdy to Donald. I 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:58.960 just feel like my long standing Donald lack of belief 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.520 makes it hard to lock him up in a game 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.440 against Joe Burrow. But I still feel good about the 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:03.080 forty nine ers. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:03.919 I'd even. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.839 Take the three and a half points and think they're 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.080 going to cover ultimately, because I think they're just a 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.320 better team top to bottom. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.120 They are banged up though, Deebo Samuel not doing well, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:15.480 Trent Williams not doing well. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:16.560 You don't have your quarterback. 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.400 Like I I came away from the Vikings game kind 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:20.800 of being like, look at the Niners are going to 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.120 have a couple down weeks, but they couldn't run the 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.560 ball last week. I thought they got flamed in the 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.880 passing game a couple of times. And it's like the 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.760 Vikings looked like the better team. And it's like the 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.640 Niners the two week journey that they've been on, I 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.720 don't know, three weeks ago. I'm like, just put them 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.560 in the NFC Championship and probably the super Bowl. It 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.320 hasn't changed my opinion entirely, but like a couple of 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:42.720 injuries have changed that team. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.320 What about the Cincinnati side of this, because Greg, what 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.880 did you take away? You know, the team goes away 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.520 for a week or two weeks, and that's actually great 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:56.120 because as much as we wanted to say Burrow looked 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.360 much better the last couple of weeks physically, and he did. 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.000 I mean, what's better than a bye week? 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.240 So now he gets more time to rest that calf 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.600 and get the treatment and hopefully comes out and he's 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.840 even more kind of moved away from that, hopefully. Were 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.400 you concerned about the last essentially three quarters of that 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:12.400 game against Seattle. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.520 Yes, they had five first downs I think in the 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.960 last three quarter. Their offensive line no bad. Has been 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:21.520 poor all year. Burrow's injury made them look even worse 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.000 or showed how poor they are. They haven't been able 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:28.320 to run the ball. The defense has had some great games. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:31.640 Cam Taylor Brick is coming on as a true number 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.400 one type of cornerback. I think they have all the 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.160 players on both sides of the ball, so at some 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.000 point they should be the team that we expected to see, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.720 but they just haven't been that team. And it's really 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.760 fascinating Burrow against this defense who was so disappointing last week. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.320 Bosa is just not getting the production that you normally 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:50.800 like to see. But this is normally a spot where 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.840 you expect the forty nine Ers defensive line to eat. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.000 This is a good number one overall pick you got, Romo. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.200 This is the best game of the week, the most fascinating. 0:08:58.240 --> 0:08:59.800 Yeah, I would not want to deal with the Niners 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.520 come off two losses and the Bengals like they are 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:03.720 walking talking about a buzzsaw. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:06.120 But wouldn't you said you wouldn't want to face them 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:07.800 coming off one loss and then they played their worst 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:08.360 game of the year. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.880 I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that game was 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.199 like ultra surprising to me. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.360 Sorry, I just mean to try harder. And then they 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.680 show up and they did even worse. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:20.440 I don't know if any of that matters, but like 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.840 the Bengals have after this game. They have the Bills, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.480 the Texans, who are suddenly frisky that's not an omadic 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.560 win anymore, the Ravens, and the Steelers. So it's like 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.760 you're kind of in this like need to show up situation. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.160 And I do think, like, because we talked with Nick 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.520 about Joe Burrow and his QB index yesterday, and like, 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.120 how do you deal with Burrow in that kind of ranking, 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.000 because what we've seen him them healthy is completely different 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.120 than before. It's like actual completion percentage rose by like 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.160 twenty points over the last two weeks. So it's like 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.360 that I just believe they can do anything if you 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:49.559 have the healthy. 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.680 Burrow and t Higgins he's had the rib Jamar Chase, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.320 it's time. It's time, no more excuses, ball out against 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.440 the Niners defense that was vulnerable. 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.400 I thought you were gonna lock up your boy Sam 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.760 Donald in a big spot. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:09.959 Greg. Ever, the showman MS Sam Donald came into the 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:10.720 league as. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.240 As the hero that would save my New York Jets, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.800 and what happened over the three years was nothing short 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:25.960 of misery for the USC star. And I always thought 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.000 that that was unfair, Like Greg, very unfair. You would 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.839 I would get into these arguments and you would look 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.640 to like hit me when I was down and say, oh, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:34.640 he's the biggest bust in. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:36.839 The history of the NFL, like one of them hitting me. 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.400 Yeah, this guy was, but in one of the worst 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:43.440 situations in recent NFL history, and he flamed out as 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:48.000 any almost any young quarterback would do. And I always wondered, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.520 what if he just got into a better chance and 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.959 he went to Carolina and that didn't exactly work out, 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.719 but again, a very dysfunctional situation once more. And even 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:58.840 when he got a chance last year in Carolina, he 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.040 played pretty well and you look at the stats, the 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.240 numbers were pretty good. He moved that offense. They actually 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.719 won four of the six games he started when he 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.960 goes to San Francisco, and I said it this summer. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.480 Just get him in the lineup. Give this guy a chance. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.839 He's still stunningly only twenty six years old, came to 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.800 the league very young, which is another aspect of his development. 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.520 Now is the time to put Sam in, because if 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.040 you put Sam Donald in, he ain't coming out. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.400 I'm locking up the Niners. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:32.960 He's not gonna get. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.960 I think time's so well with the music that was 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.120 beautiful done at this point. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:40.760 I like Rockberdy. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.160 I'm and I think I think the Niners are on 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.559 buy next week. I might be mistaken on that take 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:53.120 a look, which would hurt Sam because I have every 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.040 confidence that he's gonna ball out in this game, and 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.520 there are people on Twitter that support Donald and also 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:00.959 think that he'll be in a good spot. But I've 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.520 always felt that he has a chance to do something 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:05.840 in this league and this is his stage. 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:07.080 I hope he gets more than. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.880 One game, but I also don't think party's the problem 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.800 in San Francisco. I wish he got maybe more than 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.440 one start, but it's probably gonna be just one start, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:16.920 and I think he's gonna play well. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:21.560 I'm I'm so easy that just because I met Sam 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.040 Darnold at LAX before the scouting. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:25.320 Wish we had that photo. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:26.440 It's around here somewhere. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.040 I actually don't love that photo because it's like, oh, 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.920 Mark is like a foot and a half shorter than 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.600 the average and of hill quarterback, but like he couldn't 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.480 have been a more delightful guy. And so it's like 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.640 I kind of want to root for him. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:37.080 I don't know. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:41.319 So, so what you were you gonna lock him up to? 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.560 Oh no, I told you what I do is for 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.559 the show. At this point, I've got a surprise. Oh 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.520 it's the Turnpike. By the way, that game is Niner 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.360 is favored by three and a half. The over under 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:54.280 is forty three and a half, and that is a 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.840 Nance Romo Wolfson joint. All right, come on, Sam, Sam Richard, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.520 that's Samuel Samn Richard, Doniel Darneld, all right, let's. 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:04.079 Get to it. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:05.920 That was the Game of the Week presented by Draft 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.200 King Sports Book. 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I'm taking the Browns at Seattle. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:33.400 I keep it. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.760 I'm a little mystified by that Colts game because you 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.560 got look at their calls at the end, like probably 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.240 you know in Jim Mercy of all people's coming out 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.920 strong saying the Colts got robbed there in that I 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.800 think there's a fair argument there, no doubt about it, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.439 that happened. But Cleveland also did a lot of good 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.080 things in that game, but did a lot of bad things. 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.960 You got like pretty much terrible quarterback play. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.199 You couldn't really run the ball that well outside of 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:02.280 Jerome Ford's like monster touchdown run. Miles Garrett played out 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:06.160 of his mind. The defense also arguably had its worst 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.600 game of the year and gave up monster yardage in 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.120 the passing game two. Gardner Minshew of all people. So 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.680 it's like you put it all together and they still 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.600 scored like thirty nine points in one in the end, 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.640 I don't. I guess like I want to be hopeful 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.360 in say, Cleveland amidst all these ups and downs is 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.680 finding a way to win these games. Because they didn't 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:26.840 have good quarterback play against the Niners either, and you 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.360 don't have Nick Chubb, and they found a way to 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:32.680 get that done with like a stellar defensive effort in 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.080 bad weather. Miles Garrett right now is the centerpiece for me, 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.960 and I think it's the Miles Garrett and the rest 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.800 of that pass rushes match up with Charles Cross and 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.560 Abraham Lucas of the Seahawks. Miles Garrett is on pace 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.320 for the greatest PFF pass rushing grade ever and it 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:51.920 looks like it, and he did a lot more than 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.560 just rush the pass thro a week ago. And so 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.320 I think it's like sometimes these games to me come 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.520 down to somewhat simple equations of like, if you're gonna 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.720 get this, if Miles Garrett's on a hot streak like 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.800 this and he's supported by a good defense around him, 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.240 it's gonna be a challenge for Seattle. I also feel 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.000 like this is the kind of game where Cleveland on 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.480 the road, if you know you got PJ. Walker in there. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.480 When you get the really bad PJ. Walker game, it 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.400 just sort of explodes everything from the inside out. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.280 Greg They're very thin though the Seahawks on the offensive line. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.000 Abe Lucas not expected to return this week. I think 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.440 Phil Haynes their guard. They've been down three offensive linemen 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.480 all year, so that is worrisome for my guy Gino, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.360 who is putting on a show the last few weeks. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.840 Just like it's almost been a little Geno coaster within games. 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:40.760 I would argue no one's made more high quality throws 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.800 than Gino Smith in the NFL the last two weeks. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:43.360 Yes, you would have. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.840 Honestly, I don't even think it's argue about it. If 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.560 you look, if you're on film, Twitter, they would all 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:54.480 agree too, Like he is throwing some outrageous passes and 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.280 then making huge mistakes in the red zone too. The 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.880 on balance, like he's looked a lot better once you 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.200 to watch the film and everything, but he when he's 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.640 under pressure, and he will be under pressure against Cleveland, 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:08.280 you definitely worry about him making that. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:08.640 I don't. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.800 I'm not saying that he's not making great throws in 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.120 these games, I guess. 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.240 But I just like I think it would be the 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.040 anti It's kind of cute. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.240 It doesn't matter last two weeks. I'm just saying, it really. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.840 Doesn't matter what Gino does. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.000 You will find the spin to present him in the 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.080 most positive light. But that's because he's your favorite player now, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.000 like he's your favorite player in the league, Isn't. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:28.240 He he is? 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.760 But I'm talking about the way his season has evolved. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.280 I'm certainly not alone on this island. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.320 He's sort of had a blah like not bad, not 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.720 good first four or five weeks of the season, and 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.440 then the last few seasons he is trying throws. Almost 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.600 no one else in the world other than Matthew Stafford's 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.760 a good comp I think, would try and he's hitting them. 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.480 But he's also making some big time mistakes. So suddenly 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:49.400 the variance has gone with. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.360 The throw when we were in London and we were 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.640 sleep deprived, but in the bucket to DK Metcalf, it's 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.680 like there's and you mentioned this too, that like when 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.640 we were there, is like he's playing with a kind 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.240 of confidence where it's like he's there's gonna be mistakes. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.480 But I kind of like this version of him more 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.160 than any other previous. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.080 Against the Browns. He threw well quadruple coverage the fan 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.120 that he hit last week. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.879 It was just like, yeah, but look how the Brown 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.920 Browns like had a ton of busted coverage last week 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:15.400 made Josh Downs look like. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.840 Because I said this two weeks ago too, Greg like, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.760 I don't think he's not playing well. I just think 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.000