Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast ran in two up bund
Speaker 1: saw this week.
Speaker 2: From the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL
Speaker 2: the Week eight preview. I'm Dan hansis Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 2: Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: You know what the buzzsaw is this week?
Speaker 2: It is the middle of the dang season and there
Speaker 2: ain't no byes sixteen.
Speaker 1: Football games and we mean Thursday and Monday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we you know, we were I was acknowledging.
Speaker 4: I think you were agree that, like I don't track
Speaker 4: like buys obsessively until like the week is upon us.
Speaker 4: And I thought, we're in this nice little comfort zone
Speaker 4: where like six teams are having the little week.
Speaker 2: It's like get one game off the But yeah, no, bro,
Speaker 2: I was a total buzzsaw buzzsaw bangjob.
Speaker 3: You know what the buzzey is my lox record right now.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's how you come into the show.
Speaker 3: Oh wow. They they brought it up on that graphic
Speaker 3: at le say.
Speaker 2: Greg Rise and Ghoul six and one, Damn Tansas four
Speaker 2: and three Westling Bros. Four and three Dark Sessler under
Speaker 2: the five hundred mark. That's like being under the Mendoza
Speaker 2: line in baseball mark getting under two hundred. I gotta
Speaker 2: I got to get that up a little.
Speaker 4: I am going to shift into what's good for the
Speaker 4: show at this point. Oh, don't do that. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna know. I'm going to try to win. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: I'm going to do it in a with some flare, Okay.
Speaker 2: And also, I guess we could use this as a
Speaker 2: congratulate Greg on another title.
Speaker 1: No, there's too much.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It's it's a buzz saw this
Speaker 3: week to write that.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know if we can we have Eric
Speaker 2: behind the glass Madison, like, do we want to just
Speaker 2: end it right now?
Speaker 1: Have you mathematically clinched yet? It's you're that far ahead.
Speaker 5: Well, winning, as I said before the season, winning four
Speaker 5: out of five seasons would mean the end of the
Speaker 5: entire segment because well, people just decide there's no drama
Speaker 5: to it.
Speaker 3: Well or danon Marker having literally no fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're mistaken about the power
Speaker 2: dynamic a little bit. But the same time, congratulations. I
Speaker 2: also not accepting this. It's the only way. See, it's
Speaker 2: the only thing that is what gets through Greg's armor.
Speaker 2: Prematurely congratulating him on Picks competition.
Speaker 6: There was the year.
Speaker 4: There was a year that I won this. It was
Speaker 4: like half a decade ago. We were all younger, but like,
Speaker 4: well you tied, you tied for the time. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: this was different.
Speaker 3: There was I waited out. Yeah it was me versus
Speaker 3: West right down.
Speaker 1: I think he won.
Speaker 3: You might have won the first one.
Speaker 4: Well this is I put the trophy on Wes's desk
Speaker 4: announcing was the winner around week and it got into
Speaker 4: his head big time. It's not easy to do that
Speaker 4: with Wes, but that did and I prevailed.
Speaker 2: And really, maybe the darkest of the dark Sessler moments
Speaker 2: is when you and I had a lock off Super
Speaker 2: Bowl Bengals Rams and I needed the Rams to win
Speaker 2: and Mark needed the Bengals. And when Aaron Donald flashed
Speaker 2: around that edge and knocked that ball and forced the incompletion.
Speaker 2: Mark came back about three months later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't see him the rest of
Speaker 5: the night. There's all these pictures with us, with all
Speaker 5: the West bros. Leaving the stadium. Where's Mark.
Speaker 4: I left early and came back to the office and
Speaker 4: just like it was like, oh, it's a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: but I've got other priorities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, so why would you want to
Speaker 2: take this element the intensity and the rivalries of the
Speaker 2: picks competition? But that this one's over, so we look
Speaker 2: ahead to twenty twenty four. All right, now, Week eight,
Speaker 2: we gave you the Island Games of the primetime games
Speaker 2: we broke down as part of the QB Index episode
Speaker 2: with Nick Shook.
Speaker 1: Please check that out.
Speaker 2: All right, Time for the first overall pick, presented by
Speaker 2: Draft Kings and I have the first overall picked, and
Speaker 2: this one is it couldn't be easier for me. We're
Speaker 2: gonna go to Santa Clara and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that.
Speaker 1: We think, we.
Speaker 2: Think figured it out a little bit before thereby obviously
Speaker 2: they took care of business. The offense came to life
Speaker 2: against Arizona in Week five, they kind of struggle and
Speaker 2: lean on their defense. Well, the offense struggles after a
Speaker 2: hot start against Seattle, and then they lean on their
Speaker 2: defense to close out the Seahawks just barely.
Speaker 1: So it's like, maybe they're good, maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: Then you have the Niners, who started out hot as
Speaker 2: a pistol five and zero killing everybody and then they
Speaker 2: dropped two very close games that went right down to
Speaker 2: the final plays nineteen seventeen to the Browns twenty two
Speaker 2: to seventeen to the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Yes, seventeen points back to back weeks. So now they're back.
Speaker 2: Home after two tough road losses, and they might have
Speaker 2: a new quarterback, Mark Sessler, because Brock Purdy went into
Speaker 2: the concussion protocol, and as we've seen this season, it
Speaker 2: seems more rock solid than ever. If you go in
Speaker 2: that protocol, you're probably out for the week. So it
Speaker 2: could be Sam Darnaldtown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's very little.
Speaker 4: I think there's been like one player in the last
Speaker 4: year that went into protocol at this period and played
Speaker 4: like that weekend.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 5: Chefter tweeted that out and then everyone pointed out how
Speaker 5: many times that's not true that it took me like
Speaker 5: twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Adam Chef.
Speaker 4: But a great, great opening salvo by my for it
Speaker 4: to be a midweek one where they didn't catch it
Speaker 4: on Monday night, which again, this is happening a lot
Speaker 4: where they don't catch it at the time, just saying
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 1: Wait, one in five players that go into the protocol
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 5: I think there was like twenty something percent has been
Speaker 5: able to like Moley Kyle.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I I do think though, you know, pretty
Speaker 4: to me, I feel like I always want to defend
Speaker 4: him and Dan, I think you're in the same camp
Speaker 4: and these people that just want to like, you're just
Speaker 4: the mid level guy. It's not because of you that
Speaker 4: you're succeeding. He's had a couple tough weeks. But isn't
Speaker 4: there this sort of sense that everyone's waiting to see
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald in this offense, largely because like Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 4: was like, you know, verbally unfurling Sea poems about Sam Donald.
Speaker 5: Everyone obvious the Donald hive, and there's another it's huge.
Speaker 3: It's the hive.
Speaker 4: It's not going away, and there would be reasons for
Speaker 4: the hive to a dissembled, but like the hive is around,
Speaker 4: and I think there's like a little bit of juice
Speaker 4: around the concept of like can Shanahan do with Sam
Speaker 4: Darnald what no one else has been able to do?
Speaker 3: And I kind of find it fascinating for that reason.
Speaker 2: Interesting because there wasn't much of a Sam Donald hive
Speaker 2: when I've been pounding the table for him the last
Speaker 2: three or four years.
Speaker 3: J T.
Speaker 5: O'Sullivan, Mina Chimes, dan Orlowski. There are so many right
Speaker 5: that Daniel Jeremiah that puts so much stock into Donald
Speaker 5: pre draft and have stuck with him. And then he
Speaker 5: does tend to start the seasons with these teams, whether
Speaker 5: it was you know, the Panthers a year ago, when
Speaker 5: he first comes out, like first couple games of the season,
Speaker 5: Donald has been better. And look, he doesn't need to
Speaker 5: be incredible, he just needs to be Nick Mullins as
Speaker 5: a rookie. Nick Mullens as a rookie is averaging like
Speaker 5: eight yards per attempt. I don't think he's as good
Speaker 5: as Brock Purdy, but I also don't think this Bengals
Speaker 5: defense is nearly as good as its reputation has been
Speaker 5: this year. You know, I was thinking hard about locking
Speaker 5: this game before it flipped from Purdy to Donald. I
Speaker 5: just feel like my long standing Donald lack of belief
Speaker 5: makes it hard to lock him up in a game
Speaker 5: against Joe Burrow. But I still feel good about the
Speaker 5: forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: I'd even.
Speaker 5: Take the three and a half points and think they're
Speaker 5: going to cover ultimately, because I think they're just a
Speaker 5: better team top to bottom.
Speaker 4: They are banged up though, Deebo Samuel not doing well,
Speaker 4: Trent Williams not doing well.
Speaker 3: You don't have your quarterback.
Speaker 4: Like I I came away from the Vikings game kind
Speaker 4: of being like, look at the Niners are going to
Speaker 4: have a couple down weeks, but they couldn't run the
Speaker 4: ball last week. I thought they got flamed in the
Speaker 4: passing game a couple of times. And it's like the
Speaker 4: Vikings looked like the better team. And it's like the
Speaker 4: Niners the two week journey that they've been on, I
Speaker 4: don't know, three weeks ago. I'm like, just put them
Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship and probably the super Bowl. It
Speaker 4: hasn't changed my opinion entirely, but like a couple of
Speaker 4: injuries have changed that team.
Speaker 2: What about the Cincinnati side of this, because Greg, what
Speaker 2: did you take away? You know, the team goes away
Speaker 2: for a week or two weeks, and that's actually great
Speaker 2: because as much as we wanted to say Burrow looked
Speaker 2: much better the last couple of weeks physically, and he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's better than a bye week?
Speaker 2: So now he gets more time to rest that calf
Speaker 2: and get the treatment and hopefully comes out and he's
Speaker 2: even more kind of moved away from that, hopefully. Were
Speaker 2: you concerned about the last essentially three quarters of that
Speaker 2: game against Seattle.
Speaker 5: Yes, they had five first downs I think in the
Speaker 5: last three quarter. Their offensive line no bad. Has been
Speaker 5: poor all year. Burrow's injury made them look even worse
Speaker 5: or showed how poor they are. They haven't been able
Speaker 5: to run the ball. The defense has had some great games.
Speaker 5: Cam Taylor Brick is coming on as a true number
Speaker 5: one type of cornerback. I think they have all the
Speaker 5: players on both sides of the ball, so at some
Speaker 5: point they should be the team that we expected to see,
Speaker 5: but they just haven't been that team. And it's really
Speaker 5: fascinating Burrow against this defense who was so disappointing last week.
Speaker 5: Bosa is just not getting the production that you normally
Speaker 5: like to see. But this is normally a spot where
Speaker 5: you expect the forty nine Ers defensive line to eat.
Speaker 5: This is a good number one overall pick you got, Romo.
Speaker 5: This is the best game of the week, the most fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not want to deal with the Niners
Speaker 4: come off two losses and the Bengals like they are
Speaker 4: walking talking about a buzzsaw.
Speaker 5: But wouldn't you said you wouldn't want to face them
Speaker 5: coming off one loss and then they played their worst
Speaker 5: game of the year.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that game was
Speaker 4: like ultra surprising to me.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I just mean to try harder. And then they
Speaker 5: show up and they did even worse.
Speaker 4: I don't know if any of that matters, but like
Speaker 4: the Bengals have after this game. They have the Bills,
Speaker 4: the Texans, who are suddenly frisky that's not an omadic
Speaker 4: win anymore, the Ravens, and the Steelers. So it's like
Speaker 4: you're kind of in this like need to show up situation.
Speaker 4: And I do think, like, because we talked with Nick
Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow and his QB index yesterday, and like,
Speaker 4: how do you deal with Burrow in that kind of ranking,
Speaker 4: because what we've seen him them healthy is completely different
Speaker 4: than before. It's like actual completion percentage rose by like
Speaker 4: twenty points over the last two weeks. So it's like
Speaker 4: that I just believe they can do anything if you
Speaker 4: have the healthy.
Speaker 2: Burrow and t Higgins he's had the rib Jamar Chase,
Speaker 2: it's time. It's time, no more excuses, ball out against
Speaker 2: the Niners defense that was vulnerable.
Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna lock up your boy Sam
Speaker 5: Donald in a big spot.
Speaker 1: Greg. Ever, the showman MS Sam Donald came into the
Speaker 1: league as.
Speaker 2: As the hero that would save my New York Jets,
Speaker 2: and what happened over the three years was nothing short
Speaker 2: of misery for the USC star. And I always thought
Speaker 2: that that was unfair, Like Greg, very unfair. You would
Speaker 2: I would get into these arguments and you would look
Speaker 2: to like hit me when I was down and say, oh,
Speaker 2: he's the biggest bust in.
Speaker 1: The history of the NFL, like one of them hitting me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy was, but in one of the worst
Speaker 2: situations in recent NFL history, and he flamed out as
Speaker 2: any almost any young quarterback would do. And I always wondered,
Speaker 2: what if he just got into a better chance and
Speaker 2: he went to Carolina and that didn't exactly work out,
Speaker 2: but again, a very dysfunctional situation once more. And even
Speaker 2: when he got a chance last year in Carolina, he
Speaker 2: played pretty well and you look at the stats, the
Speaker 2: numbers were pretty good. He moved that offense. They actually
Speaker 2: won four of the six games he started when he
Speaker 2: goes to San Francisco, and I said it this summer.
Speaker 1: Just get him in the lineup. Give this guy a chance.
Speaker 2: He's still stunningly only twenty six years old, came to
Speaker 2: the league very young, which is another aspect of his development.
Speaker 2: Now is the time to put Sam in, because if
Speaker 2: you put Sam Donald in, he ain't coming out.
Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Niners.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna get.
Speaker 5: I think time's so well with the music that was
Speaker 5: beautiful done at this point.
Speaker 1: I like Rockberdy.
Speaker 2: I'm and I think I think the Niners are on
Speaker 2: buy next week. I might be mistaken on that take
Speaker 2: a look, which would hurt Sam because I have every
Speaker 2: confidence that he's gonna ball out in this game, and
Speaker 2: there are people on Twitter that support Donald and also
Speaker 2: think that he'll be in a good spot. But I've
Speaker 2: always felt that he has a chance to do something
Speaker 2: in this league and this is his stage.
Speaker 1: I hope he gets more than.
Speaker 2: One game, but I also don't think party's the problem
Speaker 2: in San Francisco. I wish he got maybe more than
Speaker 2: one start, but it's probably gonna be just one start,
Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna play well.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm so easy that just because I met Sam
Speaker 4: Darnold at LAX before the scouting.
Speaker 1: Wish we had that photo.
Speaker 3: It's around here somewhere.
Speaker 4: I actually don't love that photo because it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: Mark is like a foot and a half shorter than
Speaker 4: the average and of hill quarterback, but like he couldn't
Speaker 4: have been a more delightful guy. And so it's like
Speaker 4: I kind of want to root for him.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So, so what you were you gonna lock him up to?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I told you what I do is for
Speaker 4: the show. At this point, I've got a surprise. Oh
Speaker 4: it's the Turnpike. By the way, that game is Niner
Speaker 4: is favored by three and a half. The over under
Speaker 4: is forty three and a half, and that is a
Speaker 4: Nance Romo Wolfson joint. All right, come on, Sam, Sam Richard,
Speaker 4: that's Samuel Samn Richard, Doniel Darneld, all right, let's.
Speaker 1: Get to it.
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Speaker 1: Mark, you were up with the second pick.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna take my late game right out
Speaker 3: of the gate.
Speaker 1: Here, let's go Sam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he's not playing in this game. All right,
Speaker 4: he's playing in your game. I'm taking the Browns at Seattle.
Speaker 1: I keep it.
Speaker 4: I'm a little mystified by that Colts game because you
Speaker 4: got look at their calls at the end, like probably
Speaker 4: you know in Jim Mercy of all people's coming out
Speaker 4: strong saying the Colts got robbed there in that I
Speaker 4: think there's a fair argument there, no doubt about it,
Speaker 4: that happened. But Cleveland also did a lot of good
Speaker 4: things in that game, but did a lot of bad things.
Speaker 3: You got like pretty much terrible quarterback play.
Speaker 4: You couldn't really run the ball that well outside of
Speaker 4: Jerome Ford's like monster touchdown run. Miles Garrett played out
Speaker 4: of his mind. The defense also arguably had its worst
Speaker 4: game of the year and gave up monster yardage in
Speaker 4: the passing game two. Gardner Minshew of all people. So
Speaker 4: it's like you put it all together and they still
Speaker 4: scored like thirty nine points in one in the end,
Speaker 4: I don't. I guess like I want to be hopeful
Speaker 4: in say, Cleveland amidst all these ups and downs is
Speaker 4: finding a way to win these games. Because they didn't
Speaker 4: have good quarterback play against the Niners either, and you
Speaker 4: don't have Nick Chubb, and they found a way to
Speaker 4: get that done with like a stellar defensive effort in
Speaker 4: bad weather. Miles Garrett right now is the centerpiece for me,
Speaker 4: and I think it's the Miles Garrett and the rest
Speaker 4: of that pass rushes match up with Charles Cross and
Speaker 4: Abraham Lucas of the Seahawks. Miles Garrett is on pace
Speaker 4: for the greatest PFF pass rushing grade ever and it
Speaker 4: looks like it, and he did a lot more than
Speaker 4: just rush the pass thro a week ago. And so
Speaker 4: I think it's like sometimes these games to me come
Speaker 4: down to somewhat simple equations of like, if you're gonna
Speaker 4: get this, if Miles Garrett's on a hot streak like
Speaker 4: this and he's supported by a good defense around him,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a challenge for Seattle. I also feel
Speaker 4: like this is the kind of game where Cleveland on
Speaker 4: the road, if you know you got PJ. Walker in there.
Speaker 4: When you get the really bad PJ. Walker game, it
Speaker 4: just sort of explodes everything from the inside out.
Speaker 5: Greg They're very thin though the Seahawks on the offensive line.
Speaker 5: Abe Lucas not expected to return this week. I think
Speaker 5: Phil Haynes their guard. They've been down three offensive linemen
Speaker 5: all year, so that is worrisome for my guy Gino,
Speaker 5: who is putting on a show the last few weeks.
Speaker 5: Just like it's almost been a little Geno coaster within games.
Speaker 5: I would argue no one's made more high quality throws
Speaker 5: than Gino Smith in the NFL the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yes, you would have.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even think it's argue about it. If
Speaker 5: you look, if you're on film, Twitter, they would all
Speaker 5: agree too, Like he is throwing some outrageous passes and
Speaker 5: then making huge mistakes in the red zone too. The
Speaker 5: on balance, like he's looked a lot better once you
Speaker 5: to watch the film and everything, but he when he's
Speaker 5: under pressure, and he will be under pressure against Cleveland,
Speaker 5: you definitely worry about him making that.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's not making great throws in
Speaker 2: these games, I guess.
Speaker 1: But I just like I think it would be the
Speaker 1: anti It's kind of cute.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter last two weeks. I'm just saying, it really.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what Gino does.
Speaker 2: You will find the spin to present him in the
Speaker 2: most positive light. But that's because he's your favorite player now,
Speaker 2: like he's your favorite player in the league, Isn't.
Speaker 3: He he is?
Speaker 5: But I'm talking about the way his season has evolved.
Speaker 3: I'm certainly not alone on this island.
Speaker 5: He's sort of had a blah like not bad, not
Speaker 5: good first four or five weeks of the season, and
Speaker 5: then the last few seasons he is trying throws. Almost
Speaker 5: no one else in the world other than Matthew Stafford's
Speaker 5: a good comp I think, would try and he's hitting them.
Speaker 5: But he's also making some big time mistakes. So suddenly
Speaker 5: the variance has gone with.
Speaker 4: The throw when we were in London and we were
Speaker 4: sleep deprived, but in the bucket to DK Metcalf, it's
Speaker 4: like there's and you mentioned this too, that like when
Speaker 4: we were there, is like he's playing with a kind
Speaker 4: of confidence where it's like he's there's gonna be mistakes.
Speaker 4: But I kind of like this version of him more
Speaker 4: than any other previous.
Speaker 5: Against the Browns. He threw well quadruple coverage the fan
Speaker 5: that he hit last week.
Speaker 4: It was just like, yeah, but look how the Brown
Speaker 4: Browns like had a ton of busted coverage last week
Speaker 4: made Josh Downs look like.
Speaker 2: Because I said this two weeks ago too, Greg like,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's not playing well. I just think
Speaker 2: I said that. I feel like the Gino Coaster was
Speaker 2: starting to ramp up. Now it's a more fun it's
Speaker 2: a better roller coaster now. Yeah. But qb Index right, right,
Speaker 2: he's been a solid deed either. I mean, he's so
Speaker 2: much more fun than the Gino Coaster back in the
Speaker 2: Meadowlands six years ago or whatever.
Speaker 1: But he is.
Speaker 2: There's almost a little bit of farving nature to the
Speaker 2: game too, where he's like I can do anything and
Speaker 2: sometimes you can't. And it's gotten him in trouble in
Speaker 2: a couple of spots with a couple of bad throws
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks that have come back to
Speaker 2: on him. But he's certainly not a problem by any stretch.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I was gonna say that we should mention
Speaker 4: like the Deshaun Watson situation where it's like he said
Speaker 4: he knew his shoulder was not right after the brief,
Speaker 4: disastrous stint he had against the Cults, I kind of
Speaker 4: wonder like if and when we're gonna see him again,
Speaker 4: because like apparently like the shoulder injury he has. Right
Speaker 4: if it were a pitcher, they say, you'd be out
Speaker 4: like easily four to six weeks.
Speaker 3: But you're not getting his agent through Adam Chef.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that's fine. I'm just saying that is a
Speaker 4: comp of what's going But I are Pitchers aren't getting
Speaker 4: slammed to the turf typically in a baseball game.
Speaker 2: If you are, if you are Cleveland, you rightfully should
Speaker 2: see yourself as a team that could be playing for
Speaker 2: the playoffs in late December and early January. And nothing
Speaker 2: happens without Watson being healthy in terms of the big
Speaker 2: picture and what everyone really wants, which is the big trophy,
Speaker 2: So like put him down, now, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Like and very clear what you're saying about the agent
Speaker 2: and the team. You could sense it, even if the
Speaker 2: big story hasn't dropped yet that there is some issues
Speaker 2: behind the scenes in terms of communication and what his
Speaker 2: status should be. But what if he has a bad shoulder,
Speaker 2: you got to get him out of the mix and
Speaker 2: and bring him back healthy.
Speaker 3: I uh do it right.
Speaker 5: I pointed out some of the inconsistencies on Twitter today
Speaker 5: and it wasn't that I have some like conspiracy that
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to play, because he called his own
Speaker 5: press conference essentially today that to say, it's ridiculous to
Speaker 5: say I wouldn't want to play. Of course I want
Speaker 5: to play. I believe that that's not That's not what
Speaker 5: I'm getting at. My My point is that the communication
Speaker 5: between him and the coach and the front office is
Speaker 5: so off multi it's pretty weird that multiple times Stefanski
Speaker 5: said he was medically cleared, and then he said after
Speaker 5: last game he's going to start this week, and then
Speaker 5: he's not starting this week. Andrew Barry was on record
Speaker 5: saying it was going to be a short term injury
Speaker 5: that was four weeks ago. That that is all pretty weird,
Speaker 5: and it hints at at some sort of divide, some
Speaker 5: some sort of confusion. And before we get out of there,
Speaker 5: I do I do want to mention the Seahawks defense.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm I'm higher on this team and I
Speaker 5: ever expected going into this season. I actually think the
Speaker 5: Seahawks have a little higher ceiling than I thought that
Speaker 5: they could be a contender in the NFC if the
Speaker 5: offense is better. Actually, Gino and the offense on balance
Speaker 5: has been worse as a group than I thought, but
Speaker 5: that's partly injury late. Their defense is coming. Witherspoon's coming.
Speaker 5: I love what Jamal Adams is added. They're very good
Speaker 5: and versatile with their three safety group. Boy Mafe is
Speaker 5: having a breakout season. They lost through Chenna Nuosa. We
Speaker 5: should mention their best pass rusher for the season we
Speaker 5: found out after last year trade deadline next week. But
Speaker 5: better up front than I expect A. Dk Metcalf is
Speaker 5: back this week, you know, Taylor Jamar. I just think
Speaker 5: it's a better overall team than I expect it, and
Speaker 5: that's why I'm locking them up on the round.
Speaker 4: Greg is such a Seahawks fan, and that Cleveland's getting
Speaker 4: four points, I'll see if it stays there.
Speaker 3: Lackoff, lockoff, No, I'm going I have another no.
Speaker 1: I don't like.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing Browns on.
Speaker 2: The road the last three weeks with a bye week
Speaker 2: ind there for Seattle's defense pants.
Speaker 1: The Giants gave up three points.
Speaker 2: Shut down Joe Burrow in Cincinnati after two big drives
Speaker 2: early only last seventeen and then Cardinals they just allowed
Speaker 2: ten took care of business. I kind of like it's
Speaker 2: annoying because Greg's hot out of the gates with the
Speaker 2: locks this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good pick, though.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good picky.
Speaker 2: I think Cleveland. I think this could be the PJ Walker?
Speaker 2: Is it a courageous underground.
Speaker 4: You could There could be schools of thought that suggest
Speaker 4: it's not incredible to lock up PJA against PJ Walker.
Speaker 3: Lamb so high on them.
Speaker 5: They're they're literally four and two there, they've been good.
Speaker 3: I said, schools have thought. I didn't say my all right, Greg,
Speaker 3: you're up.
Speaker 5: I couldn't do it, Sam Darnold and I like now
Speaker 5: that we're spreading it out, we have a strange schedule
Speaker 5: which shook and I'm going to take the Ravens Cardinals
Speaker 5: late because i want to because that's what I who
Speaker 5: I want to watch live in the late window. I'm
Speaker 5: not really feeling the other choice.
Speaker 2: Did you, by the way, Mark, did you think that
Speaker 2: Cleveland and Seattle wasn't going to make it to the
Speaker 2: fifth pick?
Speaker 1: I guess with Greg's fandom.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could of did I actually looking at
Speaker 4: the landscape, I didn't think it would come back to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably would have taken it. That's good, good Mark,
Speaker 5: good scouting. There's been a lot of reaches early on
Speaker 5: for you this season. But yeah, I pick what I
Speaker 5: prefer though.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of happening in real life too, and
Speaker 3: I'll just do what I need to do.
Speaker 5: So not an incredible week of games, which is why
Speaker 5: I'm taking Ravens Cardinals through. I just want to take
Speaker 5: my late game now. It's fine, get do.
Speaker 2: We keep saying that, by the way, every week, that
Speaker 2: is not a great slate of games, because everyone in
Speaker 2: the league is three and four. Maybe said it consistently.
Speaker 2: It's been two teams are three and four. I know
Speaker 2: the math doesn't seem to add up, but that's what's
Speaker 2: happening right now.
Speaker 5: Kyler Murray is fully practicing this week fully.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 5: The Ravens are favored by eight in this game in Arizona.
Speaker 3: That says it's not a formidable stadium venue.
Speaker 5: No, I'm sure there'll be a decent amount of Ravens
Speaker 5: fans there as well. And uh yeah, they've been showing
Speaker 5: the practice footage we got on our YouTube show, and
Speaker 5: like he's looked good out there, and if he doesn't
Speaker 5: start this week, it really feels like he will start
Speaker 5: a week from now.
Speaker 3: Now you could say, what's he returning to.
Speaker 5: This team is a bit of a mess, and their
Speaker 5: passing game with Dobbs has definitely taken a step back.
Speaker 5: I definitely don't think they'll be able to move the
Speaker 5: ball well against Baltimore, but the offense has been fine.
Speaker 5: I actually am intrigued to see him in this Drew
Speaker 5: Petsig offense. It's really the defense that that is gonna
Speaker 5: be in for a world of hurt this game. I
Speaker 5: really think the Ravens offensive line getting healthy Linderbaum and
Speaker 5: Stanley has changed everything because the line's playing well and
Speaker 5: Lamar's playing out of his mind and some of the
Speaker 5: other stuff with the receivers sometimes they're still in the
Speaker 5: wrong place and it's a little janky, but Lamar is
Speaker 5: making up for it.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of holes in this Cardinals defense.
Speaker 4: There are, and you get the sense that the Ravens
Speaker 4: are heating up. And Greg, you were on top of
Speaker 4: the speat a while ago, you know, it's fair to
Speaker 4: say that it would have taken a month plus in
Speaker 4: a new offense, a completely new offense, for everyone on
Speaker 4: the team to get into this fashion.
Speaker 3: But they're getting healthier.
Speaker 4: And I kind of just the one thing about Baltimore
Speaker 4: because if you look at the scope of like the
Speaker 4: last two or three seasons, it's like they've been among
Speaker 4: the most injured teams in the league. And I think
Speaker 4: they found a way to kind of gut their way
Speaker 4: through some of that, still make playoffs, still win games
Speaker 4: they should have no business winning. And so if you
Speaker 4: get a healthier version, and you get a Lamar Jackson
Speaker 4: who's playing the way he is right now, he's the
Speaker 4: top five quarterback in the league, no questions asked. And
Speaker 4: we'll see it right there on the YouTube copy. Like
Speaker 4: Mark Andrews, who's two touchdowns away, Well that's what it is.
Speaker 4: Right where else would you watch it? You're listening in
Speaker 4: your car, You're out of luck. But it was Mark
Speaker 4: Andrews cut He's two touchdowns away from Ty and Todd
Speaker 4: Heap for the most touchdowns. Mark Andrews is like the
Speaker 4: kind of guy that doesn't get almost enough credit somehow,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but like I just look at this
Speaker 4: Raven's offense and I feel like they this is maybe
Speaker 4: where Arizona, who I've been I've had a bit of
Speaker 4: a fetish for. I don't see it at this point,
Speaker 4: like okay, falls out, thank you, I even a week
Speaker 4: ago I've seen.
Speaker 2: I can't really pushed back on the Ravens because it's
Speaker 2: the wrong time to do it, because they just played
Speaker 2: better than anyone in the league in Week seven and
Speaker 2: now they have a layup against the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: But you know, they're a little weird now you're I'm.
Speaker 2: Just saying like they we're now now we're gonna view
Speaker 2: the Ravens as this unstoppable juggernaut, but they're kind of
Speaker 2: proven a couple times ready this year.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4: But clean games are an argument, like they last week,
Speaker 4: So let's make.
Speaker 1: Up two in a row.
Speaker 2: Sure, And because it wasn't that clean in London when
Speaker 2: we watched it.
Speaker 1: By the way, Gregy, you know what they got next week?
Speaker 1: Ravens Seahawks. Baby Greg torn from what day?
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're gonna do, Greg, That's a
Speaker 3: fun game.
Speaker 5: I mean, I just like I like football. It's not
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna either way my team wins.
Speaker 1: Oh what a what a life for Greg? I have
Speaker 1: fourteen favorite teams, so I can't lose.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Who would you? Who do you like better? Who do
Speaker 1: you like? The Ravens of the Sea.
Speaker 5: I mean, just in terms of like my emotions walkating
Speaker 5: the game, I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not really living in dying either.
Speaker 2: We would you rather win next week? We'll save it
Speaker 2: for interesting, not even close?
Speaker 3: All right, Let's keep moving.
Speaker 4: You're a Lamar like you like if you see that
Speaker 4: Lamarmi coming out, you like, You're right.
Speaker 5: I'm rooting for him him as a player, but I'd
Speaker 5: rather than the Seahawks win.
Speaker 1: It snakes too, all right.
Speaker 5: I am going to take Kevin Burkhard's early game. It's
Speaker 5: the Rams, It's the Cowboys. The Cowboys are six point
Speaker 5: favorites in this game. Uh, and it's a lot.
Speaker 3: But I get it.
Speaker 5: The Rams are coming off of a disappointing game, and
Speaker 5: this is to me the ultimate test of this Rams
Speaker 5: offensive line, which I think is really improved. I was
Speaker 5: impressed how they played against Pittsburgh last week. I thought
Speaker 5: they protected Matthew Stafford pretty well and they were able
Speaker 5: to run the ball against Pittsburgh. And I know they
Speaker 5: didn't win the game, but I just think if their
Speaker 5: offensive line is good, then they're going to be around
Speaker 5: to stay. But it's the ultimate test when you go
Speaker 5: up against this Cowboys pass rush. So that's a fun
Speaker 5: matchup on that side of the ball when Matthew Stafford
Speaker 5: has it. Because I think they could be better than
Speaker 5: their three and four record. They're one of the few
Speaker 5: three and four teams where I look at that team like,
Speaker 5: that's a good team.
Speaker 2: How about for the Cowboys who are on by couldn't
Speaker 2: have gone better for him? So you get the buy,
Speaker 2: get to get healthy, get some shots off against the
Speaker 2: league about you know, people give us a harder time
Speaker 2: than the rest of the league. And then you see
Speaker 2: the lines get humiliated the way they were, and then
Speaker 2: you see the Eagles.
Speaker 1: No who else went down? There was another San Francisco.
Speaker 2: San Francisco goes down, and all of a sudden, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: like I know we're not perfect, but you know they're
Speaker 2: not perfect either, and they had a chance to reset.
Speaker 2: Now very interested to see I've been kind of banging
Speaker 2: the drum a little bit, like, how does how we
Speaker 2: nearly at the midpoint of the season and Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb have hooked up for one touchdown this year?
Speaker 3: That needs to be like very much.
Speaker 5: You're a fantasy team Matt Ryan season CD.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Ceedee Lamb is on my fantasy team, but like,
Speaker 2: I mean, come on now, like Ceedee Lamb, I think
Speaker 2: we all kind of feel, or at least I feel
Speaker 2: like he's a top ten receiver. Dak doesn't have a
Speaker 2: ton of options on the field. How are they not
Speaker 2: funneling targets and letting that guy make plays? Because when
Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb is making catches and he's still Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 2: and he's electric to the ball in his hands, I
Speaker 2: feel like that's an obvious missing part of their offense.
Speaker 2: And then Texas Coast offense is the chemistry or at
Speaker 2: least a production between those two guys. That said, it
Speaker 2: is still a pretty small sample size, and you would
Speaker 2: think by the end of the season these things even out.
Speaker 2: So if he had a big game on Sunday, it
Speaker 2: would not shock me. It's just weird that that huge
Speaker 2: game hasn't happened.
Speaker 4: Yet, Yeah, I think they just haven't really been the
Speaker 4: sum of their parts on offense, because there's nothing not
Speaker 4: to like about the roster in general. But I don't
Speaker 4: I think back in the summer, if I were to
Speaker 4: tell you that the Rams would be eighth in passing
Speaker 4: EPA and the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Will be twelfth.
Speaker 4: The Rams will be fourth and rushing EPA and the
Speaker 4: Cowboys will be sixteenth, I'd be like, well, wait, flip
Speaker 4: those Like I don't even expect the Rams to be
Speaker 4: much of anything, and they've been a surprise. But I
Speaker 4: do think this is a time, it's an important, important
Speaker 4: week for Dallas to like just simply shred the Rams
Speaker 4: and look like the team that we want them to
Speaker 4: look like. Their third against the pass, fourth against the rush,
Speaker 4: first and pressure rate, the best man coverage team in
Speaker 4: the league. Matthew Stafford has been like, it's weird. It's
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. We talked about it with Nick. It's like
Speaker 4: seven touchdowns, six interceptions. The stats throw them out the
Speaker 4: window because he's throwing the ball as well as he
Speaker 4: ever has, and you've got a nice group of receivers.
Speaker 4: But Dallas has really no excuse to not take care
Speaker 4: of business here if I'm if I'm to buy them
Speaker 4: at all, Yeah, because you can say the Niners lost
Speaker 4: and the Eagles did this or that, but it's like
Speaker 4: the Cowboys had such I need I need them to
Speaker 4: convince me you can take care of your own business.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of you're talking out of
Speaker 2: two sides of them out there, because it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: the Rams are actually much better than the we thought,
Speaker 2: and here's some data backing that up, and now the
Speaker 2: Cowboys have no business not taking care of business.
Speaker 4: I think they're not the Cowboys at all like that.
Speaker 4: So it's like, I I do think that the Rams.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I think this is a pretty good,
Speaker 2: evenly matched game. Maybe the Cowboys are the favorite and
Speaker 2: they're at home, but they've they've lost some guys on
Speaker 2: their defense, and I think this should be closer than
Speaker 2: perhaps the spread tells us.
Speaker 5: By the way, Ceedee Lamb is on pace for like
Speaker 5: one hundred catches and thirteen hundred yeards, just telling. So
Speaker 5: the touchdowns are random.
Speaker 2: But all right, throw the stats out the window. It's
Speaker 2: not the same. It's not like what you expect. You know,
Speaker 2: what I expect from cdee Lamb and Dak Prescott what
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and aj Brown are doing on something.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the Chargers game, you know, a sign
Speaker 5: of things to come for Dak. That was his best
Speaker 5: game by far the season, certainly since that playoff game.
Speaker 5: He used his legs, which you know, just us believers
Speaker 5: in Dak have been just begging, like what happened? Like
Speaker 5: he never he uses legs in multiple times to make
Speaker 5: throws and to run. That was huge, and so you
Speaker 5: want to see that continue. And they did get rid
Speaker 5: of Brett Maher. We didn't, we didn't mention it on
Speaker 5: this show, but Brett Maher is no more in Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: and it's great.
Speaker 3: This team's crazy.
Speaker 5: They bringing Darryl Henderson off the street and he's suddenly
Speaker 5: like their number one guy and he's actually running the ball.
Speaker 3: Well, they get rid of their kicker, I thought.
Speaker 5: Jordan rod Rieg our friend mentioned a great point the
Speaker 5: Great Thursday that Sean McVay is among the league leaders
Speaker 5: in losing you know, points added in terms of there's
Speaker 5: a way to like look at it. In terms of
Speaker 5: his fourth down decision. He is extremely conservative punting and
Speaker 5: kicking field goals on fourth down, and yet they won't
Speaker 5: pay for a kicker, and they're going the cheap route
Speaker 5: and the kicker and those two things don't match up.
Speaker 5: It's like you're losing points because you've got this great offense.
Speaker 1: He pays for kickers for the most part.
Speaker 5: Right, No, but they went out of their way to
Speaker 5: get rid of the best kicker in the league, and
Speaker 5: they're going on the cheap and they're not going for
Speaker 5: it ever on fourth down. They're trusting their punter, who's
Speaker 5: also not really playing well.
Speaker 3: They're trusting their kicker instead.
Speaker 1: Who's the kicker? Now?
Speaker 3: It's a man I was not familiar.
Speaker 1: Where the hell is Robbie Gould. Someone tell me where
Speaker 1: Robbie Gould is?
Speaker 5: They have signed Lucas Haverson, and did Robbie Gould ever
Speaker 5: to CLA.
Speaker 1: Something's something else going on with that story.
Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about it on last Sunday after
Speaker 2: the Maher meltdown. It's like, it's crazy to me that
Speaker 2: they hope that the level of mental breakdown in that
Speaker 2: playoff run with the Cowboys would never pop up again.
Speaker 2: It was a huge roll of the dice, but also
Speaker 2: it made me think after they made the right decision
Speaker 2: sadly for Maher to move on here. Rather than get
Speaker 2: into that sad dance, the Cowboys chose to stick with
Speaker 2: Maher last year in the same situation in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And I'll never get over that, not really, let him
Speaker 1: never get over that.
Speaker 5: But it's like, hey, let's let's maybe not trust Maher
Speaker 5: to hit a fifty yarder and let's trust Matthew freaking
Speaker 5: Stafford and Cooper Cupp And that's.
Speaker 3: Fair, right.
Speaker 4: The other coach is a little conservative, like Sean McVay
Speaker 4: is Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 2: All Right, let's take a break and then we will
Speaker 2: continue with the draft.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Mark, it comes back to you.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna take Jacksonville at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's getting
Speaker 4: two and a half points in this. I guess I
Speaker 4: just want to see what happens with the Steelers team,
Speaker 4: Like just basically on offense, I feel like the defense
Speaker 4: is sort of the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like it's TJ.
Speaker 4: Watt doing something game changing, scenery changing on a weekly basis,
Speaker 4: and the rest of them I rely on for the
Speaker 4: most part. I think the offense, it's like this, this
Speaker 4: is the story of this team, and I want to
Speaker 4: see more Jaleen Warren, George Pickens coming off too straight
Speaker 4: one hundred yard games.
Speaker 3: That's very promising.
Speaker 4: And it's like I I with Pickett, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like with Kenny Pickett, it's like I think he's just
Speaker 4: sort of a middle of the pack Dalton Line type
Speaker 4: of guy, but he does have a knack to like
Speaker 4: keep these teams in games. And I think if you
Speaker 4: get the best version of Pickens and Jaleen Warren away
Speaker 4: from Najie Harris, am I crazy. I just like I
Speaker 4: like the juice that Warren brings, and I like to
Speaker 4: reorganize that offense that way where that's all they're trying
Speaker 4: to do, and go up against the Jacksonville defense that's
Speaker 4: been essentially the best in coverage league wide. No other
Speaker 4: team on offense for the Jacksonville allows less pressure. Like
Speaker 4: they've just been a very good like they've been a
Speaker 4: surprising defense.
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of challenge for Pittsburgh, right.
Speaker 5: I've been as surprised by their defense as any in
Speaker 5: the NFL. Now it goes back to what I say
Speaker 5: with like, look at the opponents that they faced, but
Speaker 5: Kansas City, you know, is one of them.
Speaker 3: It was early. Buffalo is one of them.
Speaker 5: Houston's a decent offense, so it's not just beating up
Speaker 5: on bad offenses, and the Steelers should be a bad offense.
Speaker 5: Like the Jaguars are really good stopping the run, then
Speaker 5: you make them one dimensional?
Speaker 3: Can you pick it?
Speaker 5: Coming out of that, Buy had his best game of
Speaker 5: the year by far, Like he looked like an NFL
Speaker 5: quarterback again. And so if they somehow found something, and
Speaker 5: then maybe it's just Deontay Johnson, like this is a
Speaker 5: fun little game here.
Speaker 3: Well, Jacksonville Pittsburgh used to be a rivalry.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think these are.
Speaker 4: North way back, way back in the day AFC Central.
Speaker 4: There's six teams in there.
Speaker 2: These two teams have failed to capture my imagination, which
Speaker 2: who cares? Who cares if they capture my imagination. But
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, when you guys are pumping it up,
Speaker 2: and that makes that's cool, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's what we do on the show. But when I
Speaker 1: watch at Jaguars.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like waiting for it to be a
Speaker 2: little bit more exciting than it actually is. And and
Speaker 2: they've been successful for the most part this season. But
Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh, I just find them to be a slog
Speaker 2: I know they've they've come to life. And adding Pickens
Speaker 2: back to the mix is such a big deal for
Speaker 2: them because he is an actual playmaker and he helps
Speaker 2: a quarterback who I do believe is you know, like
Speaker 2: you're saying, very middle of the pack at best. But
Speaker 2: this is a hard game for me to pick. I
Speaker 2: would say Pittsburgh at home. I like kind of them
Speaker 2: keeping this thing of scoring. I kind of like the
Speaker 2: Steelers here.
Speaker 5: I like Jacksonville. They're favored by two and a half.
Speaker 5: I just think they've been better. But you know, they
Speaker 5: changed their strategy last week with Trevor Lawrence playing with
Speaker 5: an injured knee, Like he got rid of the ball
Speaker 5: so quickly, they weren't trying anything downfield. I think that
Speaker 5: was to protect him. So we'll see if he's feeling
Speaker 5: a little better. He ran well in that game anyways,
Speaker 5: And I am just curious because the last game before
Speaker 5: the trade deadline here, they feel like the team most
Speaker 5: likely in my mind, to make a big trade this
Speaker 5: next week.
Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville, Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: They will bring in a guy like Daniel Hunter or
Speaker 5: Chase Young or Brian Burns. To me, they would be
Speaker 5: my number one pick of like a team that is
Speaker 5: gonna make a move. It's partly because Trayvon Walker is
Speaker 5: not getting it done, but it's also because they have
Speaker 5: the room. They need a pass rusher, and I think
Speaker 5: they will be aggressive in doing It's.
Speaker 2: A good check in time on Trayvon Walker. Oh, we're
Speaker 2: in that place where Sachs don't represent havoc Trayvon Walker
Speaker 2: causes We're in that stage of the narrative.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, what do you even when you go number one?
Speaker 2: That's what Mike Tomlin said this week, So I guess
Speaker 2: he was pumping him up, pulling the Belchie.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's like a good run defender and
Speaker 5: a minus pass rusher at this point.
Speaker 1: Number one overall pick.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh back to me, I will grab Oh
Speaker 2: the Snoopy Bowl, it's back the New York Jets favored
Speaker 2: by three first time.
Speaker 1: Gang Green has been favored all season.
Speaker 2: A little fun fact for you traveling or not traveling,
Speaker 2: staying home at the Meadowlands.
Speaker 1: But they are the road team against the g men. Uh.
Speaker 2: Let's see if there's a lower over and under this week.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's even close. Yeah, thirty six and
Speaker 2: a half Andrew Catalan and.
Speaker 5: Falcons Titans with with our backups in Tennessee even a
Speaker 5: little lower Nicks.
Speaker 1: Wow, uh oh, he got Tiki in the booth on
Speaker 1: this that home run.
Speaker 3: Back to back Giants games for Tiki, I know, I
Speaker 3: see you. He's got to be professional.
Speaker 2: En not need in the booth for this game. Let's Matt,
Speaker 2: Matt and Andrew can handle this one. Need is strong, Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh So Jets coming off thereby, it's a real it's
Speaker 2: a kind of a gut check situation now for Jets
Speaker 2: fans because you've now bought back in and you are
Speaker 2: believing after the trauma of Week one stealing that game
Speaker 2: against the Eagles, you kind of set yourself up now
Speaker 2: with a schedule softening up to put yourself in a
Speaker 2: good position to make the plauss with Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 2: the background saying I could come back at the end
Speaker 2: of the season, but these are exactly the type of
Speaker 2: games you gotta win. You can't now show up flat
Speaker 2: as the defense, as good as it's been, has been
Speaker 2: not very good at all early in games and they
Speaker 2: kind of heat up as things go along. Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 2: most likely the starting quarterback, although Daniel Jones is practicing
Speaker 2: on Thursday, he has not been cleared to play. It's
Speaker 2: a very tricky when you're dealing with a neck injury.
Speaker 2: So I expect you're going to see Tyrod again with
Speaker 2: no connection to the medical physicians connected to the Giants,
Speaker 2: but we.
Speaker 1: Shall see either way.
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see the Jets offensive,
Speaker 2: which lost some key guys before the buye to injury
Speaker 2: up against the Giants. Pass rush Mark that finally woke
Speaker 2: up against Washington with six sacks after having five the
Speaker 2: first six weeks. So if you get a pass rush
Speaker 2: against Wilson, you could create turnovers and the Giants can
Speaker 2: hang around. I think this will be a low scoring
Speaker 2: game and it will come down to Wilson can continue
Speaker 2: to build on his modest gains in recent week.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Feels like a seventeen to fourteen type situation. I mean,
Speaker 4: two offensive lines, the Jets working around their limitations, the
Speaker 4: Giants a disastrous offensive line. Andrew Thomas did return to
Speaker 4: limited practice. We'll see what happens there. I love this
Speaker 4: for the Jets. DJ Reid coming off with a concussion.
Speaker 4: Full participant, Sauce Gardner, full participant. You've got one of
Speaker 4: the deepest, densest, most terrorizing defensive lines in the league
Speaker 4: against a Giants offensive line that has just simply said,
Speaker 4: come and take our quarterback down to the turf five
Speaker 4: to six times a game, week after week. I love
Speaker 4: this for the Jets because I think the there something
Speaker 4: going on with the Jets that is spiritual and strange.
Speaker 4: The Giants to me at zero juice and I'm locking
Speaker 4: up the Jets for the first time in.
Speaker 3: About one thousand years. They're gonna win this night.
Speaker 1: They're doing it.
Speaker 3: They're gonna win it.
Speaker 1: Are well. I don't know why not.
Speaker 3: What's not to like? Their three point favorites here, what's
Speaker 3: not to like? What's not to like?
Speaker 2: No, you're right, there's a lot of things pointing to
Speaker 2: the Jets should take care of business.
Speaker 4: But you know, Snoopy Bold nuclear bomb blast occurs on Sunday.
Speaker 5: I'll give you one thing not to like, and that's
Speaker 5: that Tyrod is playing at a higher level than Daniel
Speaker 5: Jones was.
Speaker 3: If Tyrod plays, but.
Speaker 4: Where is he playing relative the rest to the rest
Speaker 4: of the quarterbacks? In the league that like twenty fifth
Speaker 4: twenty six.
Speaker 3: I would say he'd.
Speaker 5: Be right around the Dalton scale for the two games
Speaker 5: that he's played.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's played. I'm not scared of tyrod tail guys.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 8: If you want to direct this criticism to two groups
Speaker 8: of people, we have a certain fellow who wants to wait, yes, oh, wait.
Speaker 1: A minute to the zoo.
Speaker 6: Hello, heroes. I know you're probably surprised to see me.
Speaker 9: Since Phil said he was going to try to take
Speaker 9: this over, all the brothers said, yeah, we got the
Speaker 9: lock this week, Nick, We're gonna just do.
Speaker 6: It for a while.
Speaker 9: Send the video in take care of business. Well guess
Speaker 9: what they didn't follow through shocking development. I get a
Speaker 9: text for Americ this morning saying, hey, Nick, no one
Speaker 9: sent me a video.
Speaker 6: We don't have a pick.
Speaker 9: I swear I must be hanging out in the ape
Speaker 9: house because I'm working with a bunch of orangutangs here.
Speaker 6: I mean, are you kill me? Guess what?
Speaker 1: Phil?
Speaker 6: You suck, Tim, you suck, Mike, you stink. Eddie Larry.
Speaker 6: You're all right because at least you didn't try.
Speaker 9: To take it over and do something you knew you
Speaker 9: weren't going to follow through on anyway. I'm gonna do
Speaker 9: the exact opposite of what they would want. I'm walking
Speaker 9: up the Jets. The Giants stink, they're terrible. Fork them,
Speaker 9: get them out of here. The Jets will make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like whenever in the past, whenever Chris
Speaker 4: Wrestling would agree with anything I said about football, I
Speaker 4: just sit in my chair, you mean, and like I
Speaker 4: feel the same right here, friends, I do think who's
Speaker 4: going to get their act together?
Speaker 1: All right? It's just like what is happening?
Speaker 2: And I want everyone to understand with these Westling brothers,
Speaker 2: none of this is made up for the show. Like
Speaker 2: they fight like cats and dogs or ranguetangs and monkeys,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say. And they are. They are
Speaker 2: settling scores on a on a widely heard podcast. I
Speaker 2: mean one of the quotes there from Nick, Phil you
Speaker 2: suck like that? I mean that's within the context of
Speaker 2: I think that was well Phil, according to Nick. In fairness,
Speaker 2: Phil or whomever was supposed to provide, though, he's coming
Speaker 2: with a lettle of vitriol.
Speaker 1: Because they did record the videos, so.
Speaker 5: Nick wasn't supposed to totally blow the pick last week either,
Speaker 5: which he did.
Speaker 3: Oh, Greg win in that direction.
Speaker 2: By the way, Sam, Sam Donald Zach Wilson one interception
Speaker 2: his last one hundred and thirty four attempts.
Speaker 3: His misses are better.
Speaker 5: I actually think that's like the number one thing his
Speaker 5: miss it he misses in the right spot.
Speaker 1: Also, yes, and and it's related.
Speaker 2: He is hitting the layups now, which he couldn't do
Speaker 2: last year, like it, checked downs, things like that, like
Speaker 2: he he is. He's definitely shown improvement the last few weeks.
Speaker 2: Let's see if it continues. I'm worried about the Jets
Speaker 2: in this game. I think the Giants have played much
Speaker 2: better than the last two weeks. I think wing Martin
Speaker 2: Dill is a particular kind of test for a young
Speaker 2: quarterback and a bad offensive line. I think Tyrod's been good.
Speaker 2: I think Saquon helps them. So I just Darren Waller
Speaker 2: is in the mix. To me, it's just it's a
Speaker 2: dangerous game. It's it's a coin flip. Do not do
Speaker 2: not my son, as my sons do when they agree.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, this feels like a dangerous game. Good
Speaker 2: luck to Nick and Mark Snakes to me and uh,
Speaker 2: this one, I think you know, not two losing teams,
Speaker 2: but intrigue Vikings at Packers, Vikings favored by one on
Speaker 2: the road. So here are the Vikings, coming off the
Speaker 2: win of their of their season so far by far.
Speaker 2: They go and knock off the Niners in prime time
Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins blazes ours off and absolutely shreds with
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson on the sideline in sunglasses. So he's playing
Speaker 2: with confidence. The Packers, you know, watching watching them this morning,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, this is tough. Nothing, nothing's easy
Speaker 2: for this team. And they kind of look like they're
Speaker 2: gonna get blown out by the Broncos and it's like
Speaker 2: this is rock bottom and and Greg, they found their
Speaker 2: way back into that game but fell short in the end,
Speaker 2: and it just this has all the feeling right now
Speaker 2: of a developmental season for an organization and a fan
Speaker 2: base that doesn't know what that is. And that's why
Speaker 2: I see a lot of like angst around the Packers.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I'm not totally surprising and it shouldn't
Speaker 2: be that this is how the season has played out
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 3: I agree, but I still expected more.
Speaker 5: You know, the Vikings are the better team, and yet
Speaker 5: this does feel like a spot where it's a division
Speaker 5: game is just Minnesota's coming off of high A lot
Speaker 5: of times it evens out.
Speaker 3: But I think Matt.
Speaker 5: Lafleur is stuck in a weird spot with his offense
Speaker 5: because the Packers just can't run the ball. They were
Speaker 5: supposed to have a really good offensive line. They are
Speaker 5: twenty ninth in run block win rate, and yet they're
Speaker 5: really good protecting Jordan Love. I mean, you watch these
Speaker 5: games and Jordan Love is just chilling back there, and
Speaker 5: I was like, does the eye test matchup with the numbers.
Speaker 5: They're very high in the PFF bringings, their second in
Speaker 5: pass block win rate, and they've got these receivers. So
Speaker 5: you're asking Jordan Love to drop back there because that's
Speaker 5: where your offensive line is good, and yet he's not
Speaker 5: always making great decisions. And I think it's tough in
Speaker 5: this matchup, particularly because this Vikings secondary. Their pass defense
Speaker 5: has been fun to watch. Harrison Smith, this three safety
Speaker 5: tandem between him and cam Binam and Josh Mattellus, who
Speaker 5: they just gave a contract to have been really good
Speaker 5: buying him was the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Like,
Speaker 5: do the Packers have answers for FLOORA is cooking up
Speaker 5: his mad you know, blitz packages and different coverages and
Speaker 5: changing posts. That that's a lot to ask of Jordan Love.
Speaker 5: I don't feel great about it.
Speaker 3: I don't like it for Jordan Love in this situation.
Speaker 4: I think you're right about the run game, like they've
Speaker 4: not Aaron Jones has essentially played less than Nick Chubb
Speaker 4: this season.
Speaker 3: He has ninety four yards rushing this year.
Speaker 4: I think that was so key to them because AJ
Speaker 4: Dillon has not been helpful at all. You don't have him,
Speaker 4: Brian Flores defense number one and blitz rate and Harrison Smith.
Speaker 4: Guys like Harris Smith's using them creatively. And I just
Speaker 4: wonder about Jordan Love. The offense to me is looked
Speaker 4: discombobulated in general. There's a lot of just young players
Speaker 4: around him. And is this a situation with if you're
Speaker 4: the Vikings where I think there's just a lot of
Speaker 4: energy on that defense. It showed up last week. You
Speaker 4: got guys like Jordan Addison on offense wilding up. And
Speaker 4: the next four opponents for the Vikings are the Falcon, Saints,
Speaker 4: Broncos and Bears. Could this be the start of a
Speaker 4: run that I think you pointed to Minnesota wise Dan,
Speaker 4: when we didn't get them forked out of this situation
Speaker 4: like they're a weird team. They're still in all these
Speaker 4: one score games. They lost a bunch, but they're starting
Speaker 4: to win them now. Or they can morph into the
Speaker 4: team we saw last year a little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the league is filled with parody and
Speaker 2: they can hanging out and win all of those games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's a little like Jordan Love. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's playing well at all. And then the numbers
Speaker 2: are backing that up. He has the lowest completion percentage
Speaker 2: in the NFL. They they're averaging I believe, about seventeen
Speaker 2: points a game right now. And so the ball they're
Speaker 2: not moving the ball and and they're not scoring points, and.
Speaker 5: The defense is bad. That's the disappointing part for me.
Speaker 5: I guess it's not surprising, but they have a lot
Speaker 5: of good players on their defense.
Speaker 2: And you know, you haven't been bailed out by the
Speaker 2: running game at all, because you've had Aaron Jones has
Speaker 2: been banged up, like AJ Dillon is a leading rusher
Speaker 2: for this team.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a tough situation. For Green Bay.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like.
Speaker 2: You don't just always Mark just something that is given
Speaker 2: certain fan bases a lot of aggravation. It's like you
Speaker 2: don't always just to keep roll into one dynasty to
Speaker 2: the next, one era to the next. Like this is
Speaker 2: a transition here, Vikings. Let's see you take care of
Speaker 2: business with Kenny, Albert and Vilma on the call.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it is back to you. All right.
Speaker 4: I could see you saying, I'm not taking the greatest
Speaker 4: game here, but it fascinates me on my own level.
Speaker 4: I'm taking the Texans at the Panthers. You've got This
Speaker 4: is a weird note, but this kind of got me
Speaker 4: into it because of course it's Bryce Young versus c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud. Do you know that they met at a middle
Speaker 3: school summer camp?
Speaker 1: Wow? I was there too?
Speaker 3: Actually were you? I don't think you were unless you
Speaker 3: were a council.
Speaker 4: You're roughly twenty years older than them, but known each
Speaker 4: other for a long time. And it's a bit of
Speaker 4: a study and like two rebuilding teams that each went
Speaker 4: out and got their quarterback. And we know that the
Speaker 4: Panthers are a disaster right now in a lot of
Speaker 4: levels and it's not going well, and you know it's
Speaker 4: too early to really even its hardy even scout Bryce
Speaker 4: Young in the situation he's in. So it's like I
Speaker 4: kind of just see what happens. But Jason, well what
Speaker 4: it's for it, I mean, you know.
Speaker 3: A little bit better. Yet he's coming off his best game. CJ.
Speaker 5: Stroud coming off his worst, and that in that particular game,
Speaker 5: I thought Bryce Young played excellent in the first half
Speaker 5: of that game and was fine in the second.
Speaker 4: He's made a couple of passes in every one of
Speaker 4: these games, but also some like massive blunders, and I
Speaker 4: think it's he's in a bad ecosystem.
Speaker 3: The c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud, like Bobby Slowick offense and what they're doing in general,
Speaker 4: Like they've won three of their last four games by
Speaker 4: by seven or more points. They're like turning into a
Speaker 4: real thing. And I know they've been sort of a
Speaker 4: team of ATM like possibility. I think this feels like
Speaker 4: a little bit of a trap game to me, just
Speaker 4: because like Caroline, at some points gonna do it. But
Speaker 4: I just think the Texans to me under Stroud, like
Speaker 4: they have I thought, I think they're well coached, that.
Speaker 2: They're pretty you know, fortunate to get out of New
Speaker 2: Orleans there on Thursday night with a tight end dropping
Speaker 2: the ball there, not saying that that that means that
Speaker 2: they didn't deserve to win that game, because they did.
Speaker 2: But I'm I'm also not This one kind of was
Speaker 2: on my radart of it because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this would be a game to lock up lock up
Speaker 2: the winless against the winless team. But yeah, I like
Speaker 2: that the that you got Frank whright, got to go
Speaker 2: into the by with Bryce Young coming off a good game,
Speaker 2: and now they can kind of reset things against the
Speaker 2: Houston defense. Greg that while this team has improved, there's
Speaker 2: no reason to think that the Panthers might not have
Speaker 2: success here at home and maybe finally get that first win.
Speaker 1: I think this game they think this could be it.
Speaker 5: They could be it. I know they it doesn't They
Speaker 5: shouldn't be this bad. I think it's a great test
Speaker 5: of you know, first year head coaches coming off of bye.
Speaker 5: In general, I think coming off the bye is a
Speaker 5: great test of coaches, and that they're both doing it
Speaker 5: is interesting. And I mentioned I liked what I saw
Speaker 5: at Bryce Young in a Miami game, especially in the
Speaker 5: first half.
Speaker 3: They had some answers. I am a little worried about
Speaker 3: their pass.
Speaker 5: Protection versus Will Anderson and Jonathan Garnard, who have really
Speaker 5: been a nice tandem. Anderson is one you mentioned. You know,
Speaker 5: we're using the whole trayvon Walker Saxtony how he's playing
Speaker 5: with Will Anderson. It's absolutely true. He is really playing outstanding.
Speaker 5: His hurries, his hits are there with the leaders in
Speaker 5: the league. It hasn't translated to sacks. It has a
Speaker 5: little more for Gernard on the other side. So that's
Speaker 5: a worry, worrisome factor. And I'm gonna go fantasy here.
Speaker 5: It's like, if we're ever gonna get Damian Pearson my
Speaker 5: preseason prediction to be right.
Speaker 3: Ever, this is it.
Speaker 5: There's too many negative runs in this Houston offense. There's
Speaker 5: supposed to be a forty nine ers like offense. So
Speaker 5: many and this is the worst run defense in the
Speaker 5: entire NFL. It's one of the very worst defenses in general.
Speaker 5: That's a big reason why they're owing six nice said
Speaker 5: Bryce Young doesn't get you know, it's not his fault
Speaker 5: that they're the worst run defense in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And what a nice uh, what a nice pickup for
Speaker 2: fantasy owners and feeling turning into like garbage stats monster.
Speaker 2: I wonder it would be with the trade deadline coming up,
Speaker 2: it would be really nice to see the Panthers maybe
Speaker 2: pull something off and get another playmaker there.
Speaker 4: And it sounds like they want to. They've they've been
Speaker 4: talked about for a couple of weeks. Is wanting a
Speaker 4: wide receiver. That's gonna change.
Speaker 2: Let us see And by the way, to your point,
Speaker 2: Will Anderson, he's just got one sack, but eight QB hits.
Speaker 2: That's tied for most on the team, second most QB
Speaker 2: hits in NFL among rookies. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know who would have the most hits amongst rookies QB
Speaker 2: hit Yalen Carter Byron Young of the La Rams.
Speaker 5: Well, nice nic agent zero. I think they call him.
Speaker 5: By the way, Texans three point favorites. All right, let's
Speaker 5: move to Greg Okay, I'm gonna take I got a
Speaker 5: certain strategy this Sunday. It's a weird sunny Falcons Titans.
Speaker 5: Falcons are two and a half point favorites on the
Speaker 5: road against the Titans. Let's review the Titans quarterback situation.
Speaker 5: Our guy Ian Rabbitport reported Will Levis is being prepared
Speaker 5: to start multiple times all week, and this was on
Speaker 5: my raidar. Mike Rabel came out and said, we're preparing
Speaker 5: both players to play. And when he said that, I
Speaker 5: was like, does that mean that Levis is starting? But
Speaker 5: they've sort of got some fun plays for Malik Phyllis.
Speaker 5: And then the reporters locally came back with him saying, hey,
Speaker 5: your guy rap sheet. Maybe you knew him back when
Speaker 5: he was a Patriots reporter. Maybe not not sure if
Speaker 5: they crossed paths. Okay, he reported, well, Levis is starting,
Speaker 5: what do you say? He's like, I'm preparing both players play,
Speaker 5: So I think we know Levis starting a little bit
Speaker 5: of Willis. And then Tannehill showed up at practice Thursday
Speaker 5: trying or Wednesday trying to do some stuff, and I
Speaker 5: never you never know, so we could see him. I
Speaker 5: just wanted to update you on the quarterbacks. Thank you
Speaker 5: for the Tennessee Titan, and maybe we can put.
Speaker 2: Some like Halloween harror music under that, because I have
Speaker 2: to say, like, does this ever work? Like, Oh, Team
Speaker 2: X planning to use multiple quarterbacks on Sunday, It's like
Speaker 2: good luck. It's like we don't have a quarterback we
Speaker 2: like enough to actually play. So we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 2: kitchen sink it and hope something happens. But you also
Speaker 2: you get it because Malik Willis, you know, God love him,
Speaker 2: has been a disaster and what we've seen of him
Speaker 2: as a pro so far. And now Levis, who is
Speaker 2: touted as a guy with tools but raw and needs
Speaker 2: needs time to develop. Now you're gonna now develop means here,
Speaker 2: welcome to week eight. You're now playing in the NFL.
Speaker 2: So I think maybe Rabel greg is trying to keep
Speaker 2: his options open knowing that you know, both of those
Speaker 2: things can get hairy.
Speaker 1: So maybe if we will little this little of that.
Speaker 4: Wait, there's got no evidence that Mike Rabel is in
Speaker 4: support of Malik Willis as his quarterback on any level.
Speaker 4: It dates back to last season when they got Josh
Speaker 4: Dobb zero.
Speaker 2: Zero chance Derek Henry doesn't get out of this game
Speaker 2: without throwing a pass, Well.
Speaker 3: That may be their best option.
Speaker 4: I mean coming out of the London game, Like, the
Speaker 4: most striking visuals we saw were Ryan tannilent tandle getting
Speaker 4: destroyed by the Ravens.
Speaker 3: So it's like not a.
Speaker 4: Good all offensive line Malik Willis has shown us nothing. Well, Levis,
Speaker 4: like you didn't beat out Malik Willis in camp. That's
Speaker 4: a bit concerning. I mean I like the idea. I'm
Speaker 4: a little bit better. I think if you're in reverse.
Speaker 4: If the Falcons are ever going to run the ball well,
Speaker 4: like in the last couple of weeks, the Colts ran
Speaker 4: over for one hundred and ninety three yards. Last week
Speaker 4: the Ravens crushed the Titans for one hundred and thirty nine.
Speaker 4: If the Falcons are ever going to do this, maybe
Speaker 4: it's this week because they've been a good run deem myself.
Speaker 2: How's our friend, how's our front beijon this week? Is
Speaker 2: he physically is he practicing?
Speaker 1: Is he?
Speaker 5: I think he's expected to play. But they're not a
Speaker 5: good running team. I mean he's a great running back,
Speaker 5: but they're not a good running team. They've been more
Speaker 5: effective throwing the ball, except for the plays where Desmond
Speaker 5: Rider gives it away like Ritter is coming off, you know,
Speaker 5: the best two game stretch of his career. But it's
Speaker 5: just crazy that, like, oh wow, Desmond Ridder making nice throws.
Speaker 5: He did it last week. I was impressed with a
Speaker 5: lot of his throws and then he just kills you
Speaker 5: with the mistakes.
Speaker 1: The timing of the mistakes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three red zone turnovers last week, and they're averaging
Speaker 2: thirteen points the game.
Speaker 5: But they also could be five and three after this week.
Speaker 5: They are favored.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Colleen was on to something. All Right,
Speaker 1: Greg snakes to you.
Speaker 3: All right, I am going to take the Saints and.
Speaker 5: The Colts alright, a rematch of one of my favorite
Speaker 5: Super Bowls of all time a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Now it was Saints are one point favorites on the road.
Speaker 5: Don't like that. I like the underdog in this game.
Speaker 5: I think the Colts are a better team overall, and
Speaker 5: I think the Saints. There's just a lot going on
Speaker 5: with this Saints team. Defensively, they can lock you up.
Speaker 5: But I really liked what I saw out of Indianapolis
Speaker 5: in terms of their ground game and what they got
Speaker 5: going with Jonathan Taylor and the way Shanstiken can change
Speaker 5: his game plan from week to week. And I think's
Speaker 5: health really gives them a lot of options.
Speaker 1: Minshew.
Speaker 5: He's not going to be Anthony Richardson, but he can
Speaker 5: at least provide a little bit of run threat on
Speaker 5: some of those fakes that work well enough, and I
Speaker 5: just think they've been a tough minded team for the
Speaker 5: most part, and the Saints are not a tough minded
Speaker 5: team in my mind.
Speaker 4: Minshew ran the ball really well against Cleveland and it
Speaker 4: was like design run territories, and I think he gives
Speaker 4: them that. I mean, it's been a couple sort of
Speaker 4: somewhat atypical weeks for Minshe because of the giveaways coming
Speaker 4: into this season, like his touchdown to interception ratio was
Speaker 4: pretty spectacular, and the mistakes have cropped up and they've
Speaker 4: coached around it a little bit. I would also say
Speaker 4: that he's had a really nice connection with Josh Downs,
Speaker 4: who has been great as a rookie for them, and
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman two and so there's the big plays are happening,
Speaker 4: and I think the biggest development there is that Jonathan
Speaker 4: Taylor against Cleveland looked like the Jonathan Taylor that we've
Speaker 4: waited for, and that can change everything for them.
Speaker 2: Minshew has thrown four innerse options targeting Michael Pittman for
Speaker 2: next gen stacks, and then Michael Pittman came out after
Speaker 2: the loss last week and said, maybe I'm not like
Speaker 2: an important guy in this offense, erase the dryboard. Because
Speaker 2: the wide receiver has spoken about being unhappy. So you
Speaker 2: know what happens, because you saw what happened last week
Speaker 2: with Tomtay Adams. They will funnel targets to Pittman to
Speaker 2: try to keep him happy.
Speaker 3: Let's give him some credit.
Speaker 5: Though, on Wednesday, unprompted, he all the reporters over and said, like, man,
Speaker 5: I was in my head Sunday, I was kind of
Speaker 5: being an ass and apologize.
Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say he was being an ass.
Speaker 2: He said, I'm a sore loser, Like I don't, I
Speaker 2: hate losing, and like I get that.
Speaker 5: Is a culpa though unprompted, So I give it to
Speaker 5: Derek Carr.
Speaker 2: He had a heart to heart with Chris Alave and
Speaker 2: so they've had very productive conversations this week and they
Speaker 2: had a great week of practice.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with that.
Speaker 2: I felt real bad for that wide receiver on Thursday
Speaker 2: night the drop, and I like seeing Alvin Kamara take
Speaker 2: him off the field because he was just sitting alone
Speaker 2: on the bench at the game long over.
Speaker 1: Good leadership from Kamara. And then my last.
Speaker 2: Thought, because we don't get to talk about Thursday night
Speaker 2: football when we're not on the games. Greg Kamara is
Speaker 2: fascinating in this offense because he just gets the ball constantly,
Speaker 2: and Derek Carr, who's never been afraid of a checkdown,
Speaker 2: now has one of the great checkdown running backs of
Speaker 2: his era in Kamara. It was tough to watch Kamara
Speaker 2: unable to crack that end zone. I know he's hyper productive,
Speaker 2: but the old Kamara in that game finds the goal
Speaker 2: line and gets himself over. That's the slight difference with
Speaker 2: him that he doesn't have that same whatever it is,
Speaker 2: is just a little bit off where he doesn't have
Speaker 2: that same nose for the end zone, which he was
Speaker 2: unparalleled a few years back.
Speaker 5: I agree with you, he's not forcing as many mistackles,
Speaker 5: but five or six of those throws were Carr coming
Speaker 5: to the checkdown too quickly.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm kind of referring to that one red zone driver.
Speaker 2: They said, I'm going to give you the ball four
Speaker 2: times aka get in, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: But he's a PPR most so I'll tell you that,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Uh and oh, one last note, Ersay, owner of the Cults,
Speaker 2: came out and said that the NFL now this is
Speaker 2: what the owner of the coult said. Yeah, that the
Speaker 2: NFL said both those calls were wrong late against Cleveland,
Speaker 2: both against the same defensive back. His name is escaping
Speaker 2: me as anybody recall it, both the defensive holding against
Speaker 2: Cooper and then the PI when the ball was almost
Speaker 2: thrown into the front row. It was it Dallas Baker
Speaker 2: doesn't help. It doesn't help the standings. But I guess
Speaker 2: if I'm a cult span, I'm like, Okay, at least
Speaker 2: the NFL said we boofed it.
Speaker 5: Well, but they're also going to find j Mersey based
Speaker 5: on past precedent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, publicly, which he doesn't care.
Speaker 4: That's fine, But I like Anders says things you don't
Speaker 4: want him to say.
Speaker 3: We all get that.
Speaker 1: He says things, Oh you would care, you would care,
Speaker 1: Roberts if it was the bills, right.
Speaker 3: I liked it. It came out and said this. I
Speaker 3: liked it.
Speaker 1: He did that.
Speaker 2: You want your owner to hold the NFL's feet to
Speaker 2: the fire if they if they boof it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course that was more. I don't care that
Speaker 8: I'm getting fined as Jim. He's printing money. He doesn't
Speaker 8: care about you know, it's always good for them. To
Speaker 8: like speak up about a mistake. But yeah, that was
Speaker 8: more of a first not caring about it.
Speaker 5: I like you when Eric, when you wear this uh
Speaker 5: buttons up Bill's bills, buttoned up Polo, it really pops.
Speaker 8: You know, I don't I want to dress up for
Speaker 8: game day, but I just don't like wearing a jersey
Speaker 8: around the office.
Speaker 1: Take down that one lapel Breasa hart side, Yeah, down
Speaker 1: a little bit. There we go. There you go, and
Speaker 1: look how clean that mustache is cleaned up? You know,
Speaker 1: it looks good. This is why you watch the YouTube.
Speaker 3: Show do you put wax on it? Product? It's curious Thursday.
Speaker 8: I know there might be some camera time on Thursday,
Speaker 8: so you get it, you know, yeah, any of the
Speaker 8: guys are.
Speaker 1: At all the time.
Speaker 3: He'll be down there and makeup, and.
Speaker 2: There's a Tyson Pagent thing going on right now because
Speaker 2: look how clean cut Roberts looks. And then you know,
Speaker 2: you start, you know, pulling up the sleeve or you
Speaker 2: see him in a pair of shorts, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like, am I at the Bikers Association
Speaker 2: of America.
Speaker 8: Got to see me on the weekend for SHO I
Speaker 8: would say that this show is a history of producers
Speaker 8: for increasing and increasing camera time as the months go on,
Speaker 8: and I'm not when you got Eric in that tornado, I.
Speaker 2: Think you've you've really maneuvered yourself very well, Eric, and
Speaker 2: you're doing a great job as our producer.
Speaker 1: Mark back to you, all right.
Speaker 3: I'll take Patriots at Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Patriots getting nine and a half in this huge, like
Speaker 4: season saving or salvaging victory against the Bills, I don't
Speaker 4: know if they can, if they could do it, if
Speaker 4: they could ever pull it off in Miami, that would
Speaker 4: be wild. I feel like the dating back to like
Speaker 4: the middle of the eighteen hundreds, weird things happen to
Speaker 4: the Patriots in Miami.
Speaker 1: Usually not good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, weird things be like a typical.
Speaker 5: Trying to make a tackle on a return. Yeah, that
Speaker 5: those sort of things.
Speaker 4: I feel like those things don't matter, but then they
Speaker 4: kind of just seems to happen every year. I I
Speaker 4: do look back at the first game though, where I
Speaker 4: think Miami against Philadelphia, and like the two winning teams
Speaker 4: they've faced, they lost both of them. I don't know
Speaker 4: what that tells me about the Dolphins. It's a little concerning.
Speaker 4: They couldn't run the ball last week. I think it's
Speaker 4: really important that someone like Raheem Mostert, who blew up
Speaker 4: for one hundred and twenty one yards and two touchdowns
Speaker 4: with a forty three yard scamper against New England, like simper,
Speaker 4: if you can do that, like you're fine. You're absolutely fine,
Speaker 4: because the only other thing about their offense, like most
Speaker 4: actually did not practice. He's got a banged up ankle.
Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill has a banged up hip. It's like if
Speaker 4: you start to lose parts like then it's Mike McDaniel's challenge,
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniels challenge to get out of not being able
Speaker 4: to do what he's done week after week. But I'm
Speaker 4: leaning on the concept that what happened against New England
Speaker 4: had a lot to do with the Bills being in
Speaker 4: a funk and some of their strengths maybe working against Buffalo.
Speaker 4: But to do it two weeks in a row, I
Speaker 4: can't get on.
Speaker 3: Board with that.
Speaker 5: Tyreekho did return on Thursday, which great news because the
Speaker 5: vibes didn't sound great with him right on Wednesday. But
Speaker 5: it sounds like he'll be back for this game. It's
Speaker 5: a big time test, I think for both coaches. I
Speaker 5: think playing Belichick the second time is a unique test
Speaker 5: in general in the afcast, but it goes the other
Speaker 5: way too, So McDaniel and him having to go against
Speaker 5: each other twice in such a short time. I think
Speaker 5: you look at what the Patriots did last time they played,
Speaker 5: which was just back the hell up and try to
Speaker 5: prevent the big play and slow it down.
Speaker 3: And they did an okay job at that.
Speaker 5: But I think they'll look at what Philadelphia did and
Speaker 5: was really effective and I think really interesting, which is
Speaker 5: Philadelphia really sold out to stop the run. They also
Speaker 5: played almost entirely in zone coverage and they were in
Speaker 5: cover too, just totally backed up trying to prevent the
Speaker 5: big play. I mean, mostly everyone does that, but they
Speaker 5: really made a point to have a lot of guys
Speaker 5: on the line of scrimmage and prevent the run from
Speaker 5: getting going and put them in long yardage situations. It's
Speaker 5: an interesting way to attack the Dolphins and it worked
Speaker 5: quite well.
Speaker 2: Massive, Massive, and I buy into this trap game implications
Speaker 2: for the Dolphins coming off Philadelphia in primetime, you get
Speaker 2: the Pats at home, and then you go to Kansas
Speaker 2: City next week in primetime to Germany.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Shoot, that's right. Nine thirty am, Lower Prime. They're in
Speaker 2: Germany for christ Sake, So the idea they're they're trying
Speaker 2: to find their passports on Saturday on Saturday night when
Speaker 2: maybe they should be studying what's going on with the
Speaker 2: Patriots team. That this is gonna sound silly, but it
Speaker 2: is a fact as a fact they had when things
Speaker 2: were in They are the little rock bottom moment there,
Speaker 2: that two week stretch, Greggie, which is very tough for
Speaker 2: you and the and the Pats fans. Thirty eight three
Speaker 2: thirty four zip they have had since they've had the
Speaker 2: Buffalo win, and in general, every other game other than
Speaker 2: those two, it's been the loss has been seven points
Speaker 2: or less. So it's not they and they they did
Speaker 2: they did less than six weeks ago kind of shut
Speaker 2: down the Miami tack or slow it down. So while
Speaker 2: this certainly certainly could be twenty one nothing at the
Speaker 2: end of the first quarter, I guess it's just that
Speaker 2: old Belichick maybe has something up a sleeve, and the
Speaker 2: Miami has yet to earn the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: that they could roll over anybody they want. I see
Speaker 2: them rolling over certain teams and not others. And I
Speaker 2: don't think the Dolpins.
Speaker 4: Well, so they destroyed, no doubt, But I I just
Speaker 4: I refuse to accept that the Patriots, like especially on offense,
Speaker 4: have been reborn. I mean, prior to the Bills game,
Speaker 4: their point totals last four weeks for fifteen points three
Speaker 4: they got shut out by the Saints, give me a break,
Speaker 4: and seventeen against the Well.
Speaker 2: I didn't say that the offense the Patriots offen. I
Speaker 2: just think like, you got you gotta find it. Dolphins
Speaker 2: can run though.
Speaker 4: If the Dolphins can do it with Moster, like, you've
Speaker 4: got to find a way to hang around with Miami,
Speaker 4: And I just like, how is well they're in New
Speaker 4: England's way.
Speaker 3: Out there, They're a different offense.
Speaker 1: They've already done it.
Speaker 5: They they've gotten their offensive line healthier so and when
Speaker 5: they were playing right tackle really shores up what I
Speaker 5: was saying was the weakest position in football. And then
Speaker 5: Cole Stranger attorney at I think they have a good
Speaker 5: starting good enough starting five now in the offensive line,
Speaker 5: and that was a problem.
Speaker 3: And then uh we got Pop Douglas.
Speaker 5: Mark We're a different team here with Pop Douglas.
Speaker 1: Doug It's crazy.
Speaker 5: That a late round rookie like you know, gadget looking
Speaker 5: type of player is obviously the best and most explosive
Speaker 5: offensive player on the Patriots.
Speaker 3: It's not even like a question.
Speaker 5: He's literally the only one on the team that can
Speaker 5: make anyone miss.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: They also don't have Christian Gonzales, who played really well
Speaker 5: in that first game, helping out against Tyreek Hill, and
Speaker 5: instead you got J. C. Jackson, who's thinking, I already
Speaker 5: got roasted by Tyreek Hill in Week one with the Chargers.
Speaker 5: Now I get traded to another team, then I gotta
Speaker 5: go deal with Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: That's not fun.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a break and we'll close out
Speaker 2: the draft. All right, we're back. Let's close this thing.
Speaker 1: Out back to back. Pick those got five games.
Speaker 2: I only got two eyes, folks. We'll have to work
Speaker 2: that out. Let's start interesting, all right, So there are
Speaker 2: the two teams in the Super Bowl? Are from last
Speaker 2: year are available? Is that right? That's how this this
Speaker 2: ended up?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the opponents.
Speaker 2: Let's start with uh. And let's start with the Chiefs
Speaker 2: at the Broncos. Chiefs getting seven points here as they should,
Speaker 2: in fact a little generous for the Broncos. So now
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos have played better. I think, like the Patriots,
Speaker 2: we've probably seen probably seen the worst of them this year,
Speaker 2: and now they're gonna start kind of figuring things out,
Speaker 2: hanging in games and not being a laughing stock.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it was interesting to.
Speaker 2: See certain things with the Chiefs offense. You saw vintage
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey last week for the kind of first time
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, that's that's the dude. You saw
Speaker 2: vintage Mahomes who you know, his ability is peerless, ability
Speaker 2: to just manipulate and full defenses. With his ability outside
Speaker 2: the pocket, I mean, he's at his peak form and
Speaker 2: just creating big plays just with his eyes and his
Speaker 2: legs and his hanny ability to know exactly where the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then you have Rashid Rice, who they've been waiting.
Speaker 2: Who is the guy that's gonna step up? It's Rice,
Speaker 2: And you look at all the data points behind it
Speaker 2: his ability. He's their slot guy now, and he is
Speaker 2: their yards after catch guy over the middle, and he's
Speaker 2: filling He's filling a very important role if this stays
Speaker 2: where it is. So everybody talked about Cadarius Tony before
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 1: He's just a guy. He will always be just a guy.
Speaker 2: And they maybe even can use someone else Greg with
Speaker 2: the trade deadline coming up. Nicole Hardman is is just
Speaker 2: a guy himself. But you're starting to see the chief.
Speaker 3: Guys though, they get rid of something bringing anyone in.
Speaker 2: You you gotta, you gotta, you gotta say the Chiefs
Speaker 2: might be starting to figure it out on offense again,
Speaker 2: and with that defense that they're paired with, they're scary.
Speaker 5: They you know, are the Super Bowl favorites. I am, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: all right, we got we got all the youth culture.
Speaker 5: Now cut that for social media. You don't need to
Speaker 5: know more than Patrick Mahomes and with one of the
Speaker 5: better defensive league, that's all you need to know. And
Speaker 5: the fact that the offense is coming off a good game.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say the offense is back though,
Speaker 5: because just two weeks ago against this very same Broncos team,
Speaker 5: who at the time had a historically bad defense, the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Offense didn't really maybe figured out.
Speaker 5: Yes, I tend to agree, because again it's Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: and in a really good offensive line. So that's the
Speaker 5: mismatch to me and That's ultimately the problem for the
Speaker 5: rest of the NFL is the Chiefs pass protection has
Speaker 5: been incredible this year, and you have a matchup this
Speaker 5: week where it's like, okay, you want to throw Nick
Speaker 5: Benito and Zach Allen and Jonathan Cooper at us, Like, okay,
Speaker 5: good luck with that. I have a feeling we're scoring
Speaker 5: more than nineteen points this time around.
Speaker 3: I don't like the two matchups in three weeks.
Speaker 5: I know the NFL scheduled makers are in a tough spot,
Speaker 5: and it happens once or twice a year spots.
Speaker 2: Now I think, remember it used to be like they
Speaker 2: put them in a conference room with cigarettes and you know,
Speaker 2: sendence takeout for three months and lock the door and
Speaker 2: figure out the schedule your ghouls.
Speaker 1: And now it's just like a I figured out matchups.
Speaker 3: It is primarily done by a We were not a human.
Speaker 5: We were just in London doing this recap like a
Speaker 5: week ago.
Speaker 3: It feels like it is silly.
Speaker 5: It maybe the Denver defense, though now Mark is is normal.
Speaker 5: I don't know, well, two weeks they played normal.
Speaker 4: They did, you know, nineteen points against the Chiefs, seventeen
Speaker 4: against a pretty shaky Packers offense. I'm not taking too
Speaker 4: much from any of that, but I think that you
Speaker 4: look at like what heck occurred in that game when
Speaker 4: they played them just days ago. It feels like Travis
Speaker 4: Kelcey had a huge, monster performance. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: that can happen again, no problem. And it's like, in
Speaker 4: what area does Denver outshine Kansas City on any level?
Speaker 3: It's like they haven't beat him in how many years?
Speaker 3: Sixteen straight losses? Patrick, there is not at all.
Speaker 5: They didn't have Justin No, they did have Justin Simmons
Speaker 5: back for that, they go, Yeah, the interception.
Speaker 4: Over Mahomes is twenty nine and three versus the AFC
Speaker 4: West and sixteen straight wins over the Broncos.
Speaker 3: They don't match up well.
Speaker 4: And this is one of the messier versions of the
Speaker 4: Broncos defense we've seen.
Speaker 2: I think if you're Sean McVay and note Sean Payton,
Speaker 2: you're just like, how do I get out of here
Speaker 2: without being humiliated again? And it is the scary thing
Speaker 2: I think Greg is we say things like the Chiefs
Speaker 2: you know recently is two weeks ago. They're still funky.
Speaker 2: They are still second in total yards, they are first
Speaker 2: and third down percentage, they are six tied for six
Speaker 2: and points per game like, and that's after a kind
Speaker 2: of slow start. Yep, I think there is going to
Speaker 2: be a greg There could be a conversation and we
Speaker 2: should move on. But when we're at in Vegas for
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, God willing, is this the best Chiefs
Speaker 2: team yet?
Speaker 1: That is going to be maybe the narrative around the AFC.
Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna have to show me more offensively, but
Speaker 5: certainly the best defense. And know, by the way, they
Speaker 5: added Charles a Menaheue who's been a very productive player
Speaker 5: off of his suspension for domestic violence last week and
Speaker 5: he had, you know, an immediate impact for their for
Speaker 5: their team this run. By the way, the Broncos, they're
Speaker 5: running offense very good. Yeah, they did a nice job
Speaker 5: showcasing Judy and Sutton last week. They both had nice games.
Speaker 5: The offense is actually average. I don't know if that's
Speaker 5: good enough, but the offense is okay. So it's a
Speaker 5: showcase day. We're gonna showcase Judy and Sutton for the deadline?
Speaker 2: Please can we just And I hated it when it
Speaker 2: happened in seven I hated in the moment had happened
Speaker 2: when a Raiders future Hall of Famer got traded and
Speaker 2: was all of a sudden playing with one of the
Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks of all.
Speaker 1: Time, and Randy Moss and Tom Brady made beautiful magic.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not for the Raiders. Can you imagine DeVante Adams?
Speaker 3: Well, why would they do that? They're not gonna help
Speaker 3: out Risper about that on this show.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, for fun thinking about them together.
Speaker 3: That would be true.
Speaker 5: Davis is not. I actually think he is rightful enough.
Speaker 5: He would never allow that to happen, is he.
Speaker 1: Though we don't know Mark like we knew Al I
Speaker 1: hang out.
Speaker 3: I didn't meet Mark Davis at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You hang out with them in the bars a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 5: AFC West is not helping out the Chiefs as they
Speaker 5: clinched their seventeen.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: Another thing, if you want to talk about traits of
Speaker 2: the Raiders historically unpredictable, you're right. I'm just saying I
Speaker 2: would like well, I would love actually my favorite teams
Speaker 2: in the AFC, So I don't want to see this,
Speaker 2: but it would be fun as hell.
Speaker 1: It's they do need another Wide receive the.
Speaker 3: Juiciest landing spot for DeVante Adams by.
Speaker 2: Far, which is why we did not even bring it
Speaker 2: up in the year. The GM segment, well done by
Speaker 2: all involved. All Right, finally Eagles at Commanders, your fifth game.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I am not looking forward to the post
Speaker 5: show rejiggering.
Speaker 3: This is confusing.
Speaker 1: That's blame the AI bots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they stuck it to us.
Speaker 1: He did it. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Sam Howell is uh, he's he's gonna be the He's
Speaker 2: gonna be the decider here whether this game is a
Speaker 2: blowout or not. If he's throwing the ball for grabs
Speaker 2: and he's running for his life. Terrible job by the
Speaker 2: offensive line against the Giants, then uh, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: some turnovers and then the Eagles are going to just
Speaker 2: start humming and this is going to be grim. But
Speaker 2: GREGI are we still on the point where we're a
Speaker 2: little bit noivous about the Philly offense. We're just talking
Speaker 2: about KC.
Speaker 5: Okay, No, I mean there there are a little meat
Speaker 5: and potatoes. It's not a lot of variation. I think
Speaker 5: it was interesting that Vic Fangio was in that building
Speaker 5: and knows that team. You know, he made a very
Speaker 5: similar approach to what the Eagles did. Defensively, and he
Speaker 5: really played it. They played in base defense the whole game,
Speaker 5: and they said, we're gonna stop your running game if
Speaker 5: at all possible, and we think we have a better
Speaker 5: chance of winning if Hurtz is throwing the ball down
Speaker 5: the field. And they did get a couple of turnovers
Speaker 5: out of it, and that to me is telling. I
Speaker 5: just don't know if the Commanders are set up to
Speaker 5: possibly do it. They didn't do it when they played
Speaker 5: earlier this year, but neither of the Eagles defense. The
Speaker 5: worst performance by the Eagles defense all season was against
Speaker 5: these Commanders. They actually didn't really get after Sam Howell
Speaker 5: that well, and that that game, same Howl was kind
Speaker 5: of throwing the ball all over the field.
Speaker 3: There was a fun game.
Speaker 5: This matchup over the last few years, including the Commanders
Speaker 5: you know win over them last year, has been you know,
Speaker 5: very close down to the wires. Just one of those
Speaker 5: division matchups. So I think six and a half points
Speaker 5: a little too much for washing for.
Speaker 4: They It might be, I mean, like Howell, they may
Speaker 4: not have gotten to him in the way that he's
Speaker 4: been gotten to another games, but he was pressured twenty
Speaker 4: seven times by the Eagles, which.
Speaker 2: Is twenty seven, tied for the most how many quarters
Speaker 2: did they play?
Speaker 4: Man right, it was tied for the most in a
Speaker 4: game by any player in twenty twenty three, other than
Speaker 4: the fact that he was tied with himself against in
Speaker 4: that terrible Buffalo game for a Howell.
Speaker 3: So they didn't finish those plays and not enough that
Speaker 3: they didn't.
Speaker 4: But I also think it's like all every week after week,
Speaker 4: it's like, is the offense rounding into shape? I just
Speaker 4: look at the defense they allowed under two hundre yards
Speaker 4: passing to the Dolphins forty five on the ground.
Speaker 3: We talked about how they did that.
Speaker 1: Hurts.
Speaker 3: The giveaways have been the issue.
Speaker 4: But Hurts is playing awesome otherwise, Like I'm not really
Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, last year, maybe not be exactly
Speaker 4: what we're gonna consistently. Like Hurts is doing incredible things.
Speaker 4: It's been a couple of flurry of giveaways that have
Speaker 4: caused problems.
Speaker 5: That you in that game though, so that that is
Speaker 5: something to watch. He's definitely playing this week, but just
Speaker 5: something to watch whether he's as mobile, whether he can
Speaker 5: run the ball as much, because that would change their
Speaker 5: offense quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And let's let's give.
Speaker 2: Him some love because he deserves it and Greg loves it.
Speaker 2: He has major fantasy implications. Greg was like a schoolboy
Speaker 2: when we were in the theater room watching aj Brown
Speaker 2: do it again in primetime.
Speaker 1: This man seven hundred and one.
Speaker 2: Yards since Week three, receiving five consecutive games with at
Speaker 2: least one hundred and twenty five yards Wow through the air.
Speaker 2: That ties them with Calvin Johnson and Mark somebody that
Speaker 2: played when you were in elementary school. Pat stud still
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty six Lions for the longest streak I was.
Speaker 3: Not even on the earth, but continue in with.
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty five plus receiving yards in edfall history.
Speaker 2: And like what I was saying with Ceedee Lamb, he
Speaker 2: is like like his counterpart rest in peace the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three Phillies Bryce Harper, like he's the showman. Like
Speaker 2: when they need a big play, they just He's just got.
Speaker 2: He's just a killer. He is a killer for this
Speaker 2: Philly offense and is definitely in the running for Offensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: Ooh, how can he not be?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, of course I would say, like you, you
Speaker 4: just can't drop this. If you're the Eagles, your schedule
Speaker 4: is oh, they'll take care of it.
Speaker 3: Well, they will, I agree.
Speaker 4: Obi this one's coming up though, Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Niners,
Speaker 4: Cowboys Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Six and a half. We said, yeah, that was a spread.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's a dangerous one. I'm not I'm not like
Speaker 3: racking it up.
Speaker 5: It's an interesting one for Washington too though, just because
Speaker 5: again trade deadline. It's fairly on my raidar they need
Speaker 5: to push back the trade deadline two weeks, but Washington.
Speaker 1: Going to that.
Speaker 5: There's this whole idea that Chase Young could get traded
Speaker 5: or maybe someone else from this team, and it makes sense.
Speaker 5: But it's like, is Ron Rivera making the decisions? Because
Speaker 5: Ron Rivera knows he's out at the end of this year,
Speaker 5: so who would be making him make any trades? Because
Speaker 5: if I'm Ron Rivera, I'm not trading a thing. What
Speaker 5: does a second round pick next year do any good
Speaker 5: for me? But if they're three and five, maybe there's
Speaker 5: pressure from above saying you got it, you gotta make
Speaker 5: a move.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, it's new ownership, so I don't know what the
Speaker 4: relationship is there in terms of telling Ron Rivera what
Speaker 4: he has to do. But Martin Mayhew doesn't strike me
Speaker 4: as like a super empowered general manner.
Speaker 3: No, it's Rivera. It's Rivera making the calls.
Speaker 2: Buyer up your Philadelphia defenses in fantasy because they're getting
Speaker 2: after Sam Howell and they're gonna be playing from behind
Speaker 2: why Washington, and he's going to start throwing it up
Speaker 2: for grabs and it could be grizzly.
Speaker 3: I love that for the Eagles, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Greg, another fan, another team on the list? All right, Eagles, Seahawks,
Speaker 2: Ravens on an island. Only one team can continue to exist.
Speaker 5: It's really not about one team. It's about one man.
Speaker 5: So it's the Seahawks right now.
Speaker 3: Geno trumps all Oh, I just want it. It's been
Speaker 3: an amazing journey.
Speaker 1: Why is it so personal though the love?
Speaker 5: It's been a fun journey, and it's like, for you,
Speaker 5: how fun can this get?
Speaker 3: Because this team is kind of frisky?
Speaker 5: Can he can he be in a big spot in
Speaker 5: a divisional round game?
Speaker 3: That would be fun like that.
Speaker 1: Let's first, we want to see how far the Geno
Speaker 1: coaster goes.
Speaker 4: I wish we had an AI service that could tell
Speaker 4: us like who's been mentioned the most over the last
Speaker 4: like eighteen months, because it's got to be Geno Smith
Speaker 4: number one and then the number two half as many times.
Speaker 2: Rogers got a lot of play this summer, but this podcast,
Speaker 2: Jordan takes up there. Jordan is up there, all right,
Speaker 2: good stuff, good stuff. We will be back Thursday night,
Speaker 2: Mark and I with recap of Thursday Night football, a
Speaker 2: matchup between.
Speaker 3: Mark, the Bills and the Bucks.
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