1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast ran in two up bund 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: saw this week. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: From the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: the Week eight preview. I'm Dan hansis Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: Mark Sessler. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: You know what the buzzsaw is this week? 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: It is the middle of the dang season and there 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: ain't no byes sixteen. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Football games and we mean Thursday and Monday. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we you know, we were I was acknowledging. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: I think you were agree that, like I don't track 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: like buys obsessively until like the week is upon us. 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: And I thought, we're in this nice little comfort zone 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: where like six teams are having the little week. 15 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: It's like get one game off the But yeah, no, bro, 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: I was a total buzzsaw buzzsaw bangjob. 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: You know what the buzzey is my lox record right now. 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: That's that's that's how you come into the show. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Oh wow. They they brought it up on that graphic 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: at le say. 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Greg Rise and Ghoul six and one, Damn Tansas four 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: and three Westling Bros. Four and three Dark Sessler under 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: the five hundred mark. That's like being under the Mendoza 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: line in baseball mark getting under two hundred. I gotta 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: I got to get that up a little. 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: I am going to shift into what's good for the 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: show at this point. Oh, don't do that. I'm not 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: gonna know. I'm going to try to win. Yeah, but 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 4: I'm going to do it in a with some flare, Okay. 30 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: And also, I guess we could use this as a 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 2: congratulate Greg on another title. 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: No, there's too much. 33 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: I don't know why. It's it's a buzz saw this 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: week to write that. 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: So, I don't know if we can we have Eric 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: behind the glass Madison, like, do we want to just 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: end it right now? 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Have you mathematically clinched yet? It's you're that far ahead. 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 5: Well, winning, as I said before the season, winning four 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 5: out of five seasons would mean the end of the 41 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 5: entire segment because well, people just decide there's no drama 42 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: to it. 43 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: Well or danon Marker having literally no fun. 44 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you're mistaken about the power 45 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: dynamic a little bit. But the same time, congratulations. I 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: also not accepting this. It's the only way. See, it's 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: the only thing that is what gets through Greg's armor. 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: Prematurely congratulating him on Picks competition. 49 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: There was the year. 50 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: There was a year that I won this. It was 51 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: like half a decade ago. We were all younger, but like, 52 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: well you tied, you tied for the time. No, no, no, 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 4: this was different. 54 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: There was I waited out. Yeah it was me versus 55 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: West right down. 56 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: I think he won. 57 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 3: You might have won the first one. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: Well this is I put the trophy on Wes's desk 59 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: announcing was the winner around week and it got into 60 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: his head big time. It's not easy to do that 61 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: with Wes, but that did and I prevailed. 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: And really, maybe the darkest of the dark Sessler moments 63 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: is when you and I had a lock off Super 64 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: Bowl Bengals Rams and I needed the Rams to win 65 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: and Mark needed the Bengals. And when Aaron Donald flashed 66 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: around that edge and knocked that ball and forced the incompletion. 67 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: Mark came back about three months later. 68 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't. We didn't see him the rest of 69 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 5: the night. There's all these pictures with us, with all 70 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: the West bros. Leaving the stadium. Where's Mark. 71 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: I left early and came back to the office and 72 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 4: just like it was like, oh, it's a Super Bowl, 73 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: but I've got other priorities. 74 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, so why would you want to 75 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: take this element the intensity and the rivalries of the 76 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: picks competition? But that this one's over, so we look 77 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: ahead to twenty twenty four. All right, now, Week eight, 78 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: we gave you the Island Games of the primetime games 79 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: we broke down as part of the QB Index episode 80 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: with Nick Shook. 81 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: Please check that out. 82 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: All right, Time for the first overall pick, presented by 83 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: Draft Kings and I have the first overall picked, and 84 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: this one is it couldn't be easier for me. We're 85 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: gonna go to Santa Clara and we're going to talk 86 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: about the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that. 87 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: We think, we. 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: Think figured it out a little bit before thereby obviously 89 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: they took care of business. The offense came to life 90 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: against Arizona in Week five, they kind of struggle and 91 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: lean on their defense. Well, the offense struggles after a 92 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: hot start against Seattle, and then they lean on their 93 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: defense to close out the Seahawks just barely. 94 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: So it's like, maybe they're good, maybe they're not. 95 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: Then you have the Niners, who started out hot as 96 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: a pistol five and zero killing everybody and then they 97 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: dropped two very close games that went right down to 98 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: the final plays nineteen seventeen to the Browns twenty two 99 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: to seventeen to the Vikings. 100 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: Yes, seventeen points back to back weeks. So now they're back. 101 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Home after two tough road losses, and they might have 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: a new quarterback, Mark Sessler, because Brock Purdy went into 103 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: the concussion protocol, and as we've seen this season, it 104 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: seems more rock solid than ever. If you go in 105 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: that protocol, you're probably out for the week. So it 106 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: could be Sam Darnaldtown. 107 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's very little. 108 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: I think there's been like one player in the last 109 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 4: year that went into protocol at this period and played 110 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: like that weekend. 111 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen. 112 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 5: Chefter tweeted that out and then everyone pointed out how 113 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 5: many times that's not true that it took me like 114 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: twenty percent of the time. 115 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, Adam Chef. 116 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: But a great, great opening salvo by my for it 117 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: to be a midweek one where they didn't catch it 118 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: on Monday night, which again, this is happening a lot 119 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 4: where they don't catch it at the time, just saying 120 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: like that. 121 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: Wait, one in five players that go into the protocol 122 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: or something like that. 123 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 5: I think there was like twenty something percent has been 124 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: able to like Moley Kyle. 125 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: Okay, so I I do think though, you know, pretty 126 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 4: to me, I feel like I always want to defend 127 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 4: him and Dan, I think you're in the same camp 128 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: and these people that just want to like, you're just 129 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: the mid level guy. It's not because of you that 130 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: you're succeeding. He's had a couple tough weeks. But isn't 131 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: there this sort of sense that everyone's waiting to see 132 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: Sam Darnald in this offense, largely because like Kyle Shanahan 133 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: was like, you know, verbally unfurling Sea poems about Sam Donald. 134 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 5: Everyone obvious the Donald hive, and there's another it's huge. 135 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: It's the hive. 136 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: It's not going away, and there would be reasons for 137 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 4: the hive to a dissembled, but like the hive is around, 138 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: and I think there's like a little bit of juice 139 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: around the concept of like can Shanahan do with Sam 140 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 4: Darnald what no one else has been able to do? 141 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: And I kind of find it fascinating for that reason. 142 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: Interesting because there wasn't much of a Sam Donald hive 143 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: when I've been pounding the table for him the last 144 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: three or four years. 145 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: J T. 146 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: O'Sullivan, Mina Chimes, dan Orlowski. There are so many right 147 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 5: that Daniel Jeremiah that puts so much stock into Donald 148 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: pre draft and have stuck with him. And then he 149 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: does tend to start the seasons with these teams, whether 150 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: it was you know, the Panthers a year ago, when 151 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: he first comes out, like first couple games of the season, 152 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: Donald has been better. And look, he doesn't need to 153 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 5: be incredible, he just needs to be Nick Mullins as 154 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: a rookie. Nick Mullens as a rookie is averaging like 155 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: eight yards per attempt. I don't think he's as good 156 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: as Brock Purdy, but I also don't think this Bengals 157 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 5: defense is nearly as good as its reputation has been 158 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: this year. You know, I was thinking hard about locking 159 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: this game before it flipped from Purdy to Donald. I 160 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: just feel like my long standing Donald lack of belief 161 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: makes it hard to lock him up in a game 162 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: against Joe Burrow. But I still feel good about the 163 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: forty nine ers. 164 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: I'd even. 165 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 5: Take the three and a half points and think they're 166 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: going to cover ultimately, because I think they're just a 167 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: better team top to bottom. 168 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: They are banged up though, Deebo Samuel not doing well, 169 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: Trent Williams not doing well. 170 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: You don't have your quarterback. 171 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: Like I I came away from the Vikings game kind 172 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: of being like, look at the Niners are going to 173 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: have a couple down weeks, but they couldn't run the 174 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: ball last week. I thought they got flamed in the 175 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: passing game a couple of times. And it's like the 176 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 4: Vikings looked like the better team. And it's like the 177 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: Niners the two week journey that they've been on, I 178 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: don't know, three weeks ago. I'm like, just put them 179 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship and probably the super Bowl. It 180 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: hasn't changed my opinion entirely, but like a couple of 181 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: injuries have changed that team. 182 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: What about the Cincinnati side of this, because Greg, what 183 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: did you take away? You know, the team goes away 184 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: for a week or two weeks, and that's actually great 185 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: because as much as we wanted to say Burrow looked 186 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: much better the last couple of weeks physically, and he did. 187 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, what's better than a bye week? 188 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: So now he gets more time to rest that calf 189 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: and get the treatment and hopefully comes out and he's 190 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: even more kind of moved away from that, hopefully. Were 191 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: you concerned about the last essentially three quarters of that 192 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: game against Seattle. 193 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: Yes, they had five first downs I think in the 194 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 5: last three quarter. Their offensive line no bad. Has been 195 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: poor all year. Burrow's injury made them look even worse 196 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 5: or showed how poor they are. They haven't been able 197 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: to run the ball. The defense has had some great games. 198 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: Cam Taylor Brick is coming on as a true number 199 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: one type of cornerback. I think they have all the 200 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 5: players on both sides of the ball, so at some 201 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: point they should be the team that we expected to see, 202 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: but they just haven't been that team. And it's really 203 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 5: fascinating Burrow against this defense who was so disappointing last week. 204 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 5: Bosa is just not getting the production that you normally 205 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: like to see. But this is normally a spot where 206 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 5: you expect the forty nine Ers defensive line to eat. 207 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 5: This is a good number one overall pick you got, Romo. 208 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 5: This is the best game of the week, the most fascinating. 209 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would not want to deal with the Niners 210 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 4: come off two losses and the Bengals like they are 211 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: walking talking about a buzzsaw. 212 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 5: But wouldn't you said you wouldn't want to face them 213 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 5: coming off one loss and then they played their worst 214 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: game of the year. 215 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, no, you're right, but that game was 216 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 4: like ultra surprising to me. 217 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: Sorry, I just mean to try harder. And then they 218 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 5: show up and they did even worse. 219 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: I don't know if any of that matters, but like 220 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: the Bengals have after this game. They have the Bills, 221 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: the Texans, who are suddenly frisky that's not an omadic 222 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: win anymore, the Ravens, and the Steelers. So it's like 223 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: you're kind of in this like need to show up situation. 224 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: And I do think, like, because we talked with Nick 225 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 4: about Joe Burrow and his QB index yesterday, and like, 226 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: how do you deal with Burrow in that kind of ranking, 227 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: because what we've seen him them healthy is completely different 228 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: than before. It's like actual completion percentage rose by like 229 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: twenty points over the last two weeks. So it's like 230 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 4: that I just believe they can do anything if you 231 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 4: have the healthy. 232 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: Burrow and t Higgins he's had the rib Jamar Chase, 233 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: it's time. It's time, no more excuses, ball out against 234 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: the Niners defense that was vulnerable. 235 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna lock up your boy Sam 236 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: Donald in a big spot. 237 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: Greg. Ever, the showman MS Sam Donald came into the 238 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: league as. 239 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: As the hero that would save my New York Jets, 240 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: and what happened over the three years was nothing short 241 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: of misery for the USC star. And I always thought 242 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: that that was unfair, Like Greg, very unfair. You would 243 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: I would get into these arguments and you would look 244 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: to like hit me when I was down and say, oh, 245 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: he's the biggest bust in. 246 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: The history of the NFL, like one of them hitting me. 247 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy was, but in one of the worst 248 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: situations in recent NFL history, and he flamed out as 249 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: any almost any young quarterback would do. And I always wondered, 250 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: what if he just got into a better chance and 251 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: he went to Carolina and that didn't exactly work out, 252 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 2: but again, a very dysfunctional situation once more. And even 253 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: when he got a chance last year in Carolina, he 254 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: played pretty well and you look at the stats, the 255 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: numbers were pretty good. He moved that offense. They actually 256 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 2: won four of the six games he started when he 257 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: goes to San Francisco, and I said it this summer. 258 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: Just get him in the lineup. Give this guy a chance. 259 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 2: He's still stunningly only twenty six years old, came to 260 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: the league very young, which is another aspect of his development. 261 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Now is the time to put Sam in, because if 262 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: you put Sam Donald in, he ain't coming out. 263 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Niners. 264 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: He's not gonna get. 265 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 5: I think time's so well with the music that was 266 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: beautiful done at this point. 267 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: I like Rockberdy. 268 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm and I think I think the Niners are on 269 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: buy next week. I might be mistaken on that take 270 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: a look, which would hurt Sam because I have every 271 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: confidence that he's gonna ball out in this game, and 272 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: there are people on Twitter that support Donald and also 273 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: think that he'll be in a good spot. But I've 274 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: always felt that he has a chance to do something 275 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: in this league and this is his stage. 276 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: I hope he gets more than. 277 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: One game, but I also don't think party's the problem 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. I wish he got maybe more than 279 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 2: one start, but it's probably gonna be just one start, 280 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: and I think he's gonna play well. 281 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm I'm so easy that just because I met Sam 282 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: Darnold at LAX before the scouting. 283 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Wish we had that photo. 284 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 3: It's around here somewhere. 285 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: I actually don't love that photo because it's like, oh, 286 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: Mark is like a foot and a half shorter than 287 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: the average and of hill quarterback, but like he couldn't 288 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: have been a more delightful guy. And so it's like 289 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 4: I kind of want to root for him. 290 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 291 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: So, so what you were you gonna lock him up to? 292 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: Oh no, I told you what I do is for 293 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: the show. At this point, I've got a surprise. Oh 294 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: it's the Turnpike. By the way, that game is Niner 295 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: is favored by three and a half. The over under 296 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: is forty three and a half, and that is a 297 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: Nance Romo Wolfson joint. All right, come on, Sam, Sam Richard, 298 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: that's Samuel Samn Richard, Doniel Darneld, all right, let's. 299 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: Get to it. 300 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 7: That was the Game of the Week presented by Draft 301 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 7: King Sports Book. New customers can bet us five dollars 302 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 7: and get two hundred in bonus bets. Instantly download the 303 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 7: Draft King Sports app and use code ATN. That's code 304 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 7: ATN only at Draft King sports Book Draft King sports Book, 305 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 7: an official sports betting partner of the NFL. 306 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Mark, you were up with the second pick. 307 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna take my late game right out 308 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: of the gate. 309 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: Here, let's go Sam. 310 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, he's not playing in this game. All right, 311 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: he's playing in your game. I'm taking the Browns at Seattle. 312 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I keep it. 313 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 4: I'm a little mystified by that Colts game because you 314 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 4: got look at their calls at the end, like probably 315 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: you know in Jim Mercy of all people's coming out 316 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: strong saying the Colts got robbed there in that I 317 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: think there's a fair argument there, no doubt about it, 318 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 4: that happened. But Cleveland also did a lot of good 319 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: things in that game, but did a lot of bad things. 320 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: You got like pretty much terrible quarterback play. 321 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 4: You couldn't really run the ball that well outside of 322 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 4: Jerome Ford's like monster touchdown run. Miles Garrett played out 323 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: of his mind. The defense also arguably had its worst 324 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 4: game of the year and gave up monster yardage in 325 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: the passing game two. Gardner Minshew of all people. So 326 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: it's like you put it all together and they still 327 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: scored like thirty nine points in one in the end, 328 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 4: I don't. I guess like I want to be hopeful 329 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: in say, Cleveland amidst all these ups and downs is 330 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: finding a way to win these games. Because they didn't 331 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: have good quarterback play against the Niners either, and you 332 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: don't have Nick Chubb, and they found a way to 333 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: get that done with like a stellar defensive effort in 334 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 4: bad weather. Miles Garrett right now is the centerpiece for me, 335 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: and I think it's the Miles Garrett and the rest 336 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: of that pass rushes match up with Charles Cross and 337 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: Abraham Lucas of the Seahawks. Miles Garrett is on pace 338 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: for the greatest PFF pass rushing grade ever and it 339 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: looks like it, and he did a lot more than 340 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: just rush the pass thro a week ago. And so 341 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: I think it's like sometimes these games to me come 342 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: down to somewhat simple equations of like, if you're gonna 343 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: get this, if Miles Garrett's on a hot streak like 344 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: this and he's supported by a good defense around him, 345 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a challenge for Seattle. I also feel 346 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: like this is the kind of game where Cleveland on 347 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: the road, if you know you got PJ. Walker in there. 348 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: When you get the really bad PJ. Walker game, it 349 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: just sort of explodes everything from the inside out. 350 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 5: Greg They're very thin though the Seahawks on the offensive line. 351 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 5: Abe Lucas not expected to return this week. I think 352 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 5: Phil Haynes their guard. They've been down three offensive linemen 353 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: all year, so that is worrisome for my guy Gino, 354 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: who is putting on a show the last few weeks. 355 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 5: Just like it's almost been a little Geno coaster within games. 356 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 5: I would argue no one's made more high quality throws 357 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 5: than Gino Smith in the NFL the last two weeks. 358 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: Yes, you would have. 359 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even think it's argue about it. If 360 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: you look, if you're on film, Twitter, they would all 361 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: agree too, Like he is throwing some outrageous passes and 362 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 5: then making huge mistakes in the red zone too. The 363 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: on balance, like he's looked a lot better once you 364 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: to watch the film and everything, but he when he's 365 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: under pressure, and he will be under pressure against Cleveland, 366 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 5: you definitely worry about him making that. 367 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't. 368 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's not making great throws in 369 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: these games, I guess. 370 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: But I just like I think it would be the 371 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: anti It's kind of cute. 372 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter last two weeks. I'm just saying, it really. 373 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what Gino does. 374 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: You will find the spin to present him in the 375 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: most positive light. But that's because he's your favorite player now, 376 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: like he's your favorite player in the league, Isn't. 377 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 3: He he is? 378 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: But I'm talking about the way his season has evolved. 379 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: I'm certainly not alone on this island. 380 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 5: He's sort of had a blah like not bad, not 381 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: good first four or five weeks of the season, and 382 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 5: then the last few seasons he is trying throws. Almost 383 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 5: no one else in the world other than Matthew Stafford's 384 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: a good comp I think, would try and he's hitting them. 385 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 5: But he's also making some big time mistakes. So suddenly 386 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: the variance has gone with. 387 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: The throw when we were in London and we were 388 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: sleep deprived, but in the bucket to DK Metcalf, it's 389 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 4: like there's and you mentioned this too, that like when 390 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 4: we were there, is like he's playing with a kind 391 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: of confidence where it's like he's there's gonna be mistakes. 392 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: But I kind of like this version of him more 393 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: than any other previous. 394 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: Against the Browns. He threw well quadruple coverage the fan 395 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 5: that he hit last week. 396 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 4: It was just like, yeah, but look how the Brown 397 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: Browns like had a ton of busted coverage last week 398 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 4: made Josh Downs look like. 399 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: Because I said this two weeks ago too, Greg like, 400 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: I don't think he's not playing well. I just think 401 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: I said that. I feel like the Gino Coaster was 402 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: starting to ramp up. Now it's a more fun it's 403 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: a better roller coaster now. Yeah. But qb Index right, right, 404 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: he's been a solid deed either. I mean, he's so 405 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: much more fun than the Gino Coaster back in the 406 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: Meadowlands six years ago or whatever. 407 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: But he is. 408 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 2: There's almost a little bit of farving nature to the 409 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: game too, where he's like I can do anything and 410 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: sometimes you can't. And it's gotten him in trouble in 411 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: a couple of spots with a couple of bad throws 412 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks that have come back to 413 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: on him. But he's certainly not a problem by any stretch. 414 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: You shouldn't. 415 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I was gonna say that we should mention 416 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: like the Deshaun Watson situation where it's like he said 417 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 4: he knew his shoulder was not right after the brief, 418 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 4: disastrous stint he had against the Cults, I kind of 419 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: wonder like if and when we're gonna see him again, 420 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: because like apparently like the shoulder injury he has. Right 421 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 4: if it were a pitcher, they say, you'd be out 422 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 4: like easily four to six weeks. 423 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: But you're not getting his agent through Adam Chef. 424 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 4: Okay, well that's fine. I'm just saying that is a 425 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 4: comp of what's going But I are Pitchers aren't getting 426 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 4: slammed to the turf typically in a baseball game. 427 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: If you are, if you are Cleveland, you rightfully should 428 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: see yourself as a team that could be playing for 429 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: the playoffs in late December and early January. And nothing 430 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: happens without Watson being healthy in terms of the big 431 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: picture and what everyone really wants, which is the big trophy, 432 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: So like put him down, now, what are we doing? 433 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: Like and very clear what you're saying about the agent 434 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: and the team. You could sense it, even if the 435 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: big story hasn't dropped yet that there is some issues 436 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: behind the scenes in terms of communication and what his 437 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: status should be. But what if he has a bad shoulder, 438 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: you got to get him out of the mix and 439 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: and bring him back healthy. 440 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: I uh do it right. 441 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: I pointed out some of the inconsistencies on Twitter today 442 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: and it wasn't that I have some like conspiracy that 443 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 5: he doesn't want to play, because he called his own 444 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 5: press conference essentially today that to say, it's ridiculous to 445 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 5: say I wouldn't want to play. Of course I want 446 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: to play. I believe that that's not That's not what 447 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: I'm getting at. My My point is that the communication 448 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 5: between him and the coach and the front office is 449 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: so off multi it's pretty weird that multiple times Stefanski 450 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: said he was medically cleared, and then he said after 451 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 5: last game he's going to start this week, and then 452 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: he's not starting this week. Andrew Barry was on record 453 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 5: saying it was going to be a short term injury 454 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 5: that was four weeks ago. That that is all pretty weird, 455 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 5: and it hints at at some sort of divide, some 456 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: some sort of confusion. And before we get out of there, 457 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 5: I do I do want to mention the Seahawks defense. 458 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 5: That's why I'm I'm higher on this team and I 459 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 5: ever expected going into this season. I actually think the 460 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: Seahawks have a little higher ceiling than I thought that 461 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 5: they could be a contender in the NFC if the 462 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 5: offense is better. Actually, Gino and the offense on balance 463 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 5: has been worse as a group than I thought, but 464 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: that's partly injury late. Their defense is coming. Witherspoon's coming. 465 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: I love what Jamal Adams is added. They're very good 466 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 5: and versatile with their three safety group. Boy Mafe is 467 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 5: having a breakout season. They lost through Chenna Nuosa. We 468 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 5: should mention their best pass rusher for the season we 469 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 5: found out after last year trade deadline next week. But 470 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 5: better up front than I expect A. Dk Metcalf is 471 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: back this week, you know, Taylor Jamar. I just think 472 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 5: it's a better overall team than I expect it, and 473 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 5: that's why I'm locking them up on the round. 474 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: Greg is such a Seahawks fan, and that Cleveland's getting 475 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 4: four points, I'll see if it stays there. 476 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: Lackoff, lockoff, No, I'm going I have another no. 477 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't like. 478 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm not doing Browns on. 479 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: The road the last three weeks with a bye week 480 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: ind there for Seattle's defense pants. 481 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: The Giants gave up three points. 482 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: Shut down Joe Burrow in Cincinnati after two big drives 483 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: early only last seventeen and then Cardinals they just allowed 484 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: ten took care of business. I kind of like it's 485 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: annoying because Greg's hot out of the gates with the 486 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: locks this year. 487 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good pick, though. 488 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: I think it's a good picky. 489 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: I think Cleveland. I think this could be the PJ Walker? 490 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: Is it a courageous underground. 491 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: You could There could be schools of thought that suggest 492 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: it's not incredible to lock up PJA against PJ Walker. 493 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 3: Lamb so high on them. 494 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 5: They're they're literally four and two there, they've been good. 495 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: I said, schools have thought. I didn't say my all right, Greg, 496 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: you're up. 497 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 5: I couldn't do it, Sam Darnold and I like now 498 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: that we're spreading it out, we have a strange schedule 499 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: which shook and I'm going to take the Ravens Cardinals 500 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 5: late because i want to because that's what I who 501 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 5: I want to watch live in the late window. I'm 502 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: not really feeling the other choice. 503 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: Did you, by the way, Mark, did you think that 504 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: Cleveland and Seattle wasn't going to make it to the 505 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: fifth pick? 506 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: I guess with Greg's fandom. 507 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I could of did I actually looking at 508 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: the landscape, I didn't think it would come back to me. 509 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I probably would have taken it. That's good, good Mark, 510 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 5: good scouting. There's been a lot of reaches early on 511 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 5: for you this season. But yeah, I pick what I 512 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 5: prefer though. 513 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 3: There's a lot of happening in real life too, and 514 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 3: I'll just do what I need to do. 515 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 5: So not an incredible week of games, which is why 516 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: I'm taking Ravens Cardinals through. I just want to take 517 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 5: my late game now. It's fine, get do. 518 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: We keep saying that, by the way, every week, that 519 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 2: is not a great slate of games, because everyone in 520 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: the league is three and four. Maybe said it consistently. 521 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: It's been two teams are three and four. I know 522 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: the math doesn't seem to add up, but that's what's 523 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: happening right now. 524 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray is fully practicing this week fully. 525 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 526 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: The Ravens are favored by eight in this game in Arizona. 527 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: That says it's not a formidable stadium venue. 528 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 5: No, I'm sure there'll be a decent amount of Ravens 529 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 5: fans there as well. And uh yeah, they've been showing 530 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: the practice footage we got on our YouTube show, and 531 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: like he's looked good out there, and if he doesn't 532 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 5: start this week, it really feels like he will start 533 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: a week from now. 534 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: Now you could say, what's he returning to. 535 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 5: This team is a bit of a mess, and their 536 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 5: passing game with Dobbs has definitely taken a step back. 537 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 5: I definitely don't think they'll be able to move the 538 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 5: ball well against Baltimore, but the offense has been fine. 539 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 5: I actually am intrigued to see him in this Drew 540 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: Petsig offense. It's really the defense that that is gonna 541 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: be in for a world of hurt this game. I 542 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: really think the Ravens offensive line getting healthy Linderbaum and 543 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 5: Stanley has changed everything because the line's playing well and 544 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: Lamar's playing out of his mind and some of the 545 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 5: other stuff with the receivers sometimes they're still in the 546 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 5: wrong place and it's a little janky, but Lamar is 547 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: making up for it. 548 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: And there's a lot of holes in this Cardinals defense. 549 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 4: There are, and you get the sense that the Ravens 550 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 4: are heating up. And Greg, you were on top of 551 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: the speat a while ago, you know, it's fair to 552 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: say that it would have taken a month plus in 553 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: a new offense, a completely new offense, for everyone on 554 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: the team to get into this fashion. 555 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: But they're getting healthier. 556 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: And I kind of just the one thing about Baltimore 557 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: because if you look at the scope of like the 558 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: last two or three seasons, it's like they've been among 559 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: the most injured teams in the league. And I think 560 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 4: they found a way to kind of gut their way 561 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: through some of that, still make playoffs, still win games 562 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 4: they should have no business winning. And so if you 563 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 4: get a healthier version, and you get a Lamar Jackson 564 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 4: who's playing the way he is right now, he's the 565 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: top five quarterback in the league, no questions asked. And 566 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: we'll see it right there on the YouTube copy. Like 567 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: Mark Andrews, who's two touchdowns away, Well that's what it is. 568 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 4: Right where else would you watch it? You're listening in 569 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 4: your car, You're out of luck. But it was Mark 570 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: Andrews cut He's two touchdowns away from Ty and Todd 571 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: Heap for the most touchdowns. Mark Andrews is like the 572 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 4: kind of guy that doesn't get almost enough credit somehow, 573 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: I don't know, but like I just look at this 574 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: Raven's offense and I feel like they this is maybe 575 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: where Arizona, who I've been I've had a bit of 576 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 4: a fetish for. I don't see it at this point, 577 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: like okay, falls out, thank you, I even a week 578 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 4: ago I've seen. 579 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 2: I can't really pushed back on the Ravens because it's 580 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: the wrong time to do it, because they just played 581 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: better than anyone in the league in Week seven and 582 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: now they have a layup against the Cardinals. 583 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: But you know, they're a little weird now you're I'm. 584 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: Just saying like they we're now now we're gonna view 585 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: the Ravens as this unstoppable juggernaut, but they're kind of 586 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: proven a couple times ready this year. 587 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: Sometimes you don't know what's gonna happen with the Baltimore Ravens. 588 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: But clean games are an argument, like they last week, 589 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: So let's make. 590 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Up two in a row. 591 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: Sure, And because it wasn't that clean in London when 592 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: we watched it. 593 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: By the way, Gregy, you know what they got next week? 594 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Ravens Seahawks. Baby Greg torn from what day? 595 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're gonna do, Greg, That's a 596 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: fun game. 597 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I just like I like football. It's not 598 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: like I'm gonna either way my team wins. 599 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: Oh what a what a life for Greg? I have 600 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: fourteen favorite teams, so I can't lose. 601 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just kidding. 602 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Who would you? Who do you like better? Who do 603 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: you like? The Ravens of the Sea. 604 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 5: I mean, just in terms of like my emotions walkating 605 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 5: the game, I don't. 606 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm not really living in dying either. 607 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: We would you rather win next week? We'll save it 608 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: for interesting, not even close? 609 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: All right, Let's keep moving. 610 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 4: You're a Lamar like you like if you see that 611 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: Lamarmi coming out, you like, You're right. 612 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: I'm rooting for him him as a player, but I'd 613 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 5: rather than the Seahawks win. 614 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: It snakes too, all right. 615 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 5: I am going to take Kevin Burkhard's early game. It's 616 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 5: the Rams, It's the Cowboys. The Cowboys are six point 617 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 5: favorites in this game. Uh, and it's a lot. 618 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: But I get it. 619 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 5: The Rams are coming off of a disappointing game, and 620 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 5: this is to me the ultimate test of this Rams 621 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 5: offensive line, which I think is really improved. I was 622 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 5: impressed how they played against Pittsburgh last week. I thought 623 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: they protected Matthew Stafford pretty well and they were able 624 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: to run the ball against Pittsburgh. And I know they 625 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 5: didn't win the game, but I just think if their 626 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 5: offensive line is good, then they're going to be around 627 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: to stay. But it's the ultimate test when you go 628 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: up against this Cowboys pass rush. So that's a fun 629 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 5: matchup on that side of the ball when Matthew Stafford 630 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: has it. Because I think they could be better than 631 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: their three and four record. They're one of the few 632 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 5: three and four teams where I look at that team like, 633 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: that's a good team. 634 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: How about for the Cowboys who are on by couldn't 635 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: have gone better for him? So you get the buy, 636 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: get to get healthy, get some shots off against the 637 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: league about you know, people give us a harder time 638 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: than the rest of the league. And then you see 639 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 2: the lines get humiliated the way they were, and then 640 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: you see the Eagles. 641 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: No who else went down? There was another San Francisco. 642 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: San Francisco goes down, and all of a sudden, it's like, okay, 643 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: like I know we're not perfect, but you know they're 644 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: not perfect either, and they had a chance to reset. 645 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 2: Now very interested to see I've been kind of banging 646 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: the drum a little bit, like, how does how we 647 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: nearly at the midpoint of the season and Dak Prescott 648 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: and Ceedee Lamb have hooked up for one touchdown this year? 649 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: That needs to be like very much. 650 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 5: You're a fantasy team Matt Ryan season CD. 651 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 2: Yes, and Ceedee Lamb is on my fantasy team, but like, 652 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: I mean, come on now, like Ceedee Lamb, I think 653 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: we all kind of feel, or at least I feel 654 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: like he's a top ten receiver. Dak doesn't have a 655 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: ton of options on the field. How are they not 656 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 2: funneling targets and letting that guy make plays? Because when 657 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb is making catches and he's still Ceedee Lamb 658 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: and he's electric to the ball in his hands, I 659 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: feel like that's an obvious missing part of their offense. 660 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: And then Texas Coast offense is the chemistry or at 661 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 2: least a production between those two guys. That said, it 662 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: is still a pretty small sample size, and you would 663 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: think by the end of the season these things even out. 664 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: So if he had a big game on Sunday, it 665 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: would not shock me. It's just weird that that huge 666 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: game hasn't happened. 667 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: Yet, Yeah, I think they just haven't really been the 668 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: sum of their parts on offense, because there's nothing not 669 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: to like about the roster in general. But I don't 670 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: I think back in the summer, if I were to 671 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: tell you that the Rams would be eighth in passing 672 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: EPA and the Cowboys. 673 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: Will be twelfth. 674 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: The Rams will be fourth and rushing EPA and the 675 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: Cowboys will be sixteenth, I'd be like, well, wait, flip 676 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: those Like I don't even expect the Rams to be 677 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: much of anything, and they've been a surprise. But I 678 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 4: do think this is a time, it's an important, important 679 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: week for Dallas to like just simply shred the Rams 680 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: and look like the team that we want them to 681 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: look like. Their third against the pass, fourth against the rush, 682 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: first and pressure rate, the best man coverage team in 683 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: the league. Matthew Stafford has been like, it's weird. It's 684 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. We talked about it with Nick. It's like 685 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 4: seven touchdowns, six interceptions. The stats throw them out the 686 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: window because he's throwing the ball as well as he 687 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: ever has, and you've got a nice group of receivers. 688 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 4: But Dallas has really no excuse to not take care 689 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: of business here if I'm if I'm to buy them 690 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 4: at all, Yeah, because you can say the Niners lost 691 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: and the Eagles did this or that, but it's like 692 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: the Cowboys had such I need I need them to 693 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: convince me you can take care of your own business. 694 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of you're talking out of 695 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: two sides of them out there, because it's like, oh, 696 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: the Rams are actually much better than the we thought, 697 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: and here's some data backing that up, and now the 698 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: Cowboys have no business not taking care of business. 699 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: I think they're not the Cowboys at all like that. 700 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: So it's like, I I do think that the Rams. 701 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I think this is a pretty good, 702 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: evenly matched game. Maybe the Cowboys are the favorite and 703 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: they're at home, but they've they've lost some guys on 704 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: their defense, and I think this should be closer than 705 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: perhaps the spread tells us. 706 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: By the way, Ceedee Lamb is on pace for like 707 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 5: one hundred catches and thirteen hundred yeards, just telling. So 708 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 5: the touchdowns are random. 709 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: But all right, throw the stats out the window. It's 710 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: not the same. It's not like what you expect. You know, 711 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: what I expect from cdee Lamb and Dak Prescott what 712 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and aj Brown are doing on something. 713 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. 714 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the Chargers game, you know, a sign 715 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 5: of things to come for Dak. That was his best 716 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: game by far the season, certainly since that playoff game. 717 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 5: He used his legs, which you know, just us believers 718 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 5: in Dak have been just begging, like what happened? Like 719 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: he never he uses legs in multiple times to make 720 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 5: throws and to run. That was huge, and so you 721 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 5: want to see that continue. And they did get rid 722 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 5: of Brett Maher. We didn't, we didn't mention it on 723 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: this show, but Brett Maher is no more in Los Angeles, 724 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 5: and it's great. 725 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: This team's crazy. 726 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: They bringing Darryl Henderson off the street and he's suddenly 727 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 5: like their number one guy and he's actually running the ball. 728 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: Well, they get rid of their kicker, I thought. 729 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 5: Jordan rod Rieg our friend mentioned a great point the 730 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: Great Thursday that Sean McVay is among the league leaders 731 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 5: in losing you know, points added in terms of there's 732 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: a way to like look at it. In terms of 733 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: his fourth down decision. He is extremely conservative punting and 734 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 5: kicking field goals on fourth down, and yet they won't 735 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: pay for a kicker, and they're going the cheap route 736 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: and the kicker and those two things don't match up. 737 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: It's like you're losing points because you've got this great offense. 738 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: He pays for kickers for the most part. 739 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: Right, No, but they went out of their way to 740 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: get rid of the best kicker in the league, and 741 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: they're going on the cheap and they're not going for 742 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 5: it ever on fourth down. They're trusting their punter, who's 743 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 5: also not really playing well. 744 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: They're trusting their kicker instead. 745 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Who's the kicker? Now? 746 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: It's a man I was not familiar. 747 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: Where the hell is Robbie Gould. Someone tell me where 748 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Robbie Gould is? 749 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 5: They have signed Lucas Haverson, and did Robbie Gould ever 750 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 5: to CLA. 751 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: Something's something else going on with that story. 752 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about it on last Sunday after 753 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: the Maher meltdown. It's like, it's crazy to me that 754 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: they hope that the level of mental breakdown in that 755 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: playoff run with the Cowboys would never pop up again. 756 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: It was a huge roll of the dice, but also 757 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: it made me think after they made the right decision 758 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: sadly for Maher to move on here. Rather than get 759 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: into that sad dance, the Cowboys chose to stick with 760 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: Maher last year in the same situation in the playoffs. 761 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: And I'll never get over that, not really, let him 762 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: never get over that. 763 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 5: But it's like, hey, let's let's maybe not trust Maher 764 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 5: to hit a fifty yarder and let's trust Matthew freaking 765 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: Stafford and Cooper Cupp And that's. 766 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: Fair, right. 767 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: The other coach is a little conservative, like Sean McVay 768 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: is Kyle Shanahan. 769 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: All Right, let's take a break and then we will 770 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: continue with the draft. 771 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Mark, it comes back to you. 772 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna take Jacksonville at Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's getting 773 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: two and a half points in this. I guess I 774 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: just want to see what happens with the Steelers team, 775 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 4: Like just basically on offense, I feel like the defense 776 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 4: is sort of the same thing. 777 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 3: It's like it's TJ. 778 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 4: Watt doing something game changing, scenery changing on a weekly basis, 779 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 4: and the rest of them I rely on for the 780 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: most part. I think the offense, it's like this, this 781 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 4: is the story of this team, and I want to 782 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: see more Jaleen Warren, George Pickens coming off too straight 783 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 4: one hundred yard games. 784 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: That's very promising. 785 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: And it's like I I with Pickett, I don't know, 786 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: Like with Kenny Pickett, it's like I think he's just 787 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: sort of a middle of the pack Dalton Line type 788 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: of guy, but he does have a knack to like 789 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: keep these teams in games. And I think if you 790 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: get the best version of Pickens and Jaleen Warren away 791 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 4: from Najie Harris, am I crazy. I just like I 792 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 4: like the juice that Warren brings, and I like to 793 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: reorganize that offense that way where that's all they're trying 794 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: to do, and go up against the Jacksonville defense that's 795 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: been essentially the best in coverage league wide. No other 796 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 4: team on offense for the Jacksonville allows less pressure. Like 797 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: they've just been a very good like they've been a 798 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: surprising defense. 799 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 3: So I think a lot of challenge for Pittsburgh, right. 800 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 5: I've been as surprised by their defense as any in 801 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: the NFL. Now it goes back to what I say 802 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 5: with like, look at the opponents that they faced, but 803 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 5: Kansas City, you know, is one of them. 804 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: It was early. Buffalo is one of them. 805 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 5: Houston's a decent offense, so it's not just beating up 806 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 5: on bad offenses, and the Steelers should be a bad offense. 807 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 5: Like the Jaguars are really good stopping the run, then 808 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 5: you make them one dimensional? 809 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: Can you pick it? 810 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 5: Coming out of that, Buy had his best game of 811 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 5: the year by far, Like he looked like an NFL 812 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 5: quarterback again. And so if they somehow found something, and 813 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 5: then maybe it's just Deontay Johnson, like this is a 814 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 5: fun little game here. 815 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: Well, Jacksonville Pittsburgh used to be a rivalry. 816 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I think these are. 817 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 4: North way back, way back in the day AFC Central. 818 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 4: There's six teams in there. 819 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: These two teams have failed to capture my imagination, which 820 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: who cares? Who cares if they capture my imagination. But 821 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, when you guys are pumping it up, 822 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: and that makes that's cool, that's good. 823 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: That's what we do on the show. But when I 824 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: watch at Jaguars. 825 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like waiting for it to be a 826 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: little bit more exciting than it actually is. And and 827 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 2: they've been successful for the most part this season. But 828 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh, I just find them to be a slog 829 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: I know they've they've come to life. And adding Pickens 830 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: back to the mix is such a big deal for 831 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 2: them because he is an actual playmaker and he helps 832 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: a quarterback who I do believe is you know, like 833 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 2: you're saying, very middle of the pack at best. But 834 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: this is a hard game for me to pick. I 835 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 2: would say Pittsburgh at home. I like kind of them 836 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 2: keeping this thing of scoring. I kind of like the 837 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: Steelers here. 838 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 5: I like Jacksonville. They're favored by two and a half. 839 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 5: I just think they've been better. But you know, they 840 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 5: changed their strategy last week with Trevor Lawrence playing with 841 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 5: an injured knee, Like he got rid of the ball 842 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 5: so quickly, they weren't trying anything downfield. I think that 843 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: was to protect him. So we'll see if he's feeling 844 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 5: a little better. He ran well in that game anyways, 845 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 5: And I am just curious because the last game before 846 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 5: the trade deadline here, they feel like the team most 847 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 5: likely in my mind, to make a big trade this 848 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 5: next week. 849 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 3: I think Jacksonville, Yeah, I think. 850 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 5: They will bring in a guy like Daniel Hunter or 851 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 5: Chase Young or Brian Burns. To me, they would be 852 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: my number one pick of like a team that is 853 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 5: gonna make a move. It's partly because Trayvon Walker is 854 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 5: not getting it done, but it's also because they have 855 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 5: the room. They need a pass rusher, and I think 856 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 5: they will be aggressive in doing It's. 857 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: A good check in time on Trayvon Walker. Oh, we're 858 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: in that place where Sachs don't represent havoc Trayvon Walker 859 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 2: causes We're in that stage of the narrative. 860 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, what do you even when you go number one? 861 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: That's what Mike Tomlin said this week, So I guess 862 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: he was pumping him up, pulling the Belchie. 863 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: I don't think he's like a good run defender and 864 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: a minus pass rusher at this point. 865 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: Number one overall pick. 866 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: All right, Uh back to me, I will grab Oh 867 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: the Snoopy Bowl, it's back the New York Jets favored 868 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 2: by three first time. 869 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: Gang Green has been favored all season. 870 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: A little fun fact for you traveling or not traveling, 871 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: staying home at the Meadowlands. 872 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: But they are the road team against the g men. Uh. 873 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 2: Let's see if there's a lower over and under this week. 874 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's even close. Yeah, thirty six and 875 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 2: a half Andrew Catalan and. 876 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 5: Falcons Titans with with our backups in Tennessee even a 877 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 5: little lower Nicks. 878 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: Wow, uh oh, he got Tiki in the booth on 879 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: this that home run. 880 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: Back to back Giants games for Tiki, I know, I 881 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 3: see you. He's got to be professional. 882 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: En not need in the booth for this game. Let's Matt, 883 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: Matt and Andrew can handle this one. Need is strong, Okay. 884 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 2: Uh So Jets coming off thereby, it's a real it's 885 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 2: a kind of a gut check situation now for Jets 886 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 2: fans because you've now bought back in and you are 887 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: believing after the trauma of Week one stealing that game 888 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: against the Eagles, you kind of set yourself up now 889 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: with a schedule softening up to put yourself in a 890 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: good position to make the plauss with Aaron Rodgers in 891 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: the background saying I could come back at the end 892 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: of the season, but these are exactly the type of 893 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 2: games you gotta win. You can't now show up flat 894 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 2: as the defense, as good as it's been, has been 895 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: not very good at all early in games and they 896 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 2: kind of heat up as things go along. Tyrod Taylor 897 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: most likely the starting quarterback, although Daniel Jones is practicing 898 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: on Thursday, he has not been cleared to play. It's 899 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 2: a very tricky when you're dealing with a neck injury. 900 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 2: So I expect you're going to see Tyrod again with 901 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: no connection to the medical physicians connected to the Giants, 902 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: but we. 903 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Shall see either way. 904 00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see the Jets offensive, 905 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 2: which lost some key guys before the buye to injury 906 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: up against the Giants. Pass rush Mark that finally woke 907 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 2: up against Washington with six sacks after having five the 908 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: first six weeks. So if you get a pass rush 909 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: against Wilson, you could create turnovers and the Giants can 910 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: hang around. I think this will be a low scoring 911 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: game and it will come down to Wilson can continue 912 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 2: to build on his modest gains in recent week. 913 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 914 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 4: Feels like a seventeen to fourteen type situation. I mean, 915 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: two offensive lines, the Jets working around their limitations, the 916 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: Giants a disastrous offensive line. Andrew Thomas did return to 917 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 4: limited practice. We'll see what happens there. I love this 918 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 4: for the Jets. DJ Reid coming off with a concussion. 919 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 4: Full participant, Sauce Gardner, full participant. You've got one of 920 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: the deepest, densest, most terrorizing defensive lines in the league 921 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: against a Giants offensive line that has just simply said, 922 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 4: come and take our quarterback down to the turf five 923 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 4: to six times a game, week after week. I love 924 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 4: this for the Jets because I think the there something 925 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 4: going on with the Jets that is spiritual and strange. 926 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 4: The Giants to me at zero juice and I'm locking 927 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 4: up the Jets for the first time in. 928 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: About one thousand years. They're gonna win this night. 929 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: They're doing it. 930 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 3: They're gonna win it. 931 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: Are well. I don't know why not. 932 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: What's not to like? Their three point favorites here, what's 933 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: not to like? What's not to like? 934 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: No, you're right, there's a lot of things pointing to 935 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: the Jets should take care of business. 936 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 4: But you know, Snoopy Bold nuclear bomb blast occurs on Sunday. 937 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 5: I'll give you one thing not to like, and that's 938 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 5: that Tyrod is playing at a higher level than Daniel 939 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 5: Jones was. 940 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: If Tyrod plays, but. 941 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 4: Where is he playing relative the rest to the rest 942 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 4: of the quarterbacks? In the league that like twenty fifth 943 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 4: twenty six. 944 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 3: I would say he'd. 945 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 5: Be right around the Dalton scale for the two games 946 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 5: that he's played. 947 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he's played. I'm not scared of tyrod tail guys. 948 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: I have. 949 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 8: If you want to direct this criticism to two groups 950 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 8: of people, we have a certain fellow who wants to wait, yes, oh, wait. 951 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: A minute to the zoo. 952 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 6: Hello, heroes. I know you're probably surprised to see me. 953 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 9: Since Phil said he was going to try to take 954 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 9: this over, all the brothers said, yeah, we got the 955 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 9: lock this week, Nick, We're gonna just do. 956 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 6: It for a while. 957 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 9: Send the video in take care of business. Well guess 958 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 9: what they didn't follow through shocking development. I get a 959 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 9: text for Americ this morning saying, hey, Nick, no one 960 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 9: sent me a video. 961 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 6: We don't have a pick. 962 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 9: I swear I must be hanging out in the ape 963 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 9: house because I'm working with a bunch of orangutangs here. 964 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 6: I mean, are you kill me? Guess what? 965 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 1: Phil? 966 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 6: You suck, Tim, you suck, Mike, you stink. Eddie Larry. 967 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 6: You're all right because at least you didn't try. 968 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 9: To take it over and do something you knew you 969 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 9: weren't going to follow through on anyway. I'm gonna do 970 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 9: the exact opposite of what they would want. I'm walking 971 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 9: up the Jets. The Giants stink, they're terrible. Fork them, 972 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 9: get them out of here. The Jets will make the playoffs. 973 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, Like whenever in the past, whenever Chris 974 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 4: Wrestling would agree with anything I said about football, I 975 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 4: just sit in my chair, you mean, and like I 976 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 4: feel the same right here, friends, I do think who's 977 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 4: going to get their act together? 978 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: All right? It's just like what is happening? 979 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 2: And I want everyone to understand with these Westling brothers, 980 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: none of this is made up for the show. Like 981 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: they fight like cats and dogs or ranguetangs and monkeys, 982 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: whatever you want to say. And they are. They are 983 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: settling scores on a on a widely heard podcast. I 984 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: mean one of the quotes there from Nick, Phil you 985 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 2: suck like that? I mean that's within the context of 986 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: I think that was well Phil, according to Nick. In fairness, 987 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: Phil or whomever was supposed to provide, though, he's coming 988 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: with a lettle of vitriol. 989 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: Because they did record the videos, so. 990 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 5: Nick wasn't supposed to totally blow the pick last week either, 991 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 5: which he did. 992 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh, Greg win in that direction. 993 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: By the way, Sam, Sam Donald Zach Wilson one interception 994 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: his last one hundred and thirty four attempts. 995 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 3: His misses are better. 996 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 5: I actually think that's like the number one thing his 997 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 5: miss it he misses in the right spot. 998 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 1: Also, yes, and and it's related. 999 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 2: He is hitting the layups now, which he couldn't do 1000 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: last year, like it, checked downs, things like that, like 1001 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: he he is. He's definitely shown improvement the last few weeks. 1002 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 2: Let's see if it continues. I'm worried about the Jets 1003 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 2: in this game. I think the Giants have played much 1004 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 2: better than the last two weeks. I think wing Martin 1005 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,399 Speaker 2: Dill is a particular kind of test for a young 1006 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: quarterback and a bad offensive line. I think Tyrod's been good. 1007 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 2: I think Saquon helps them. So I just Darren Waller 1008 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 2: is in the mix. To me, it's just it's a 1009 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 2: dangerous game. It's it's a coin flip. Do not do 1010 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 2: not my son, as my sons do when they agree. 1011 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you, this feels like a dangerous game. Good 1012 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 2: luck to Nick and Mark Snakes to me and uh, 1013 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: this one, I think you know, not two losing teams, 1014 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: but intrigue Vikings at Packers, Vikings favored by one on 1015 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: the road. So here are the Vikings, coming off the 1016 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 2: win of their of their season so far by far. 1017 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: They go and knock off the Niners in prime time 1018 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: and Kirk Cousins blazes ours off and absolutely shreds with 1019 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson on the sideline in sunglasses. So he's playing 1020 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 2: with confidence. The Packers, you know, watching watching them this morning, 1021 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, this is tough. Nothing, nothing's easy 1022 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 2: for this team. And they kind of look like they're 1023 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: gonna get blown out by the Broncos and it's like 1024 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: this is rock bottom and and Greg, they found their 1025 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 2: way back into that game but fell short in the end, 1026 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: and it just this has all the feeling right now 1027 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: of a developmental season for an organization and a fan 1028 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: base that doesn't know what that is. And that's why 1029 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 2: I see a lot of like angst around the Packers. 1030 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I'm not totally surprising and it shouldn't 1031 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 2: be that this is how the season has played out 1032 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 2: so far. 1033 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 3: I agree, but I still expected more. 1034 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 5: You know, the Vikings are the better team, and yet 1035 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 5: this does feel like a spot where it's a division 1036 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 5: game is just Minnesota's coming off of high A lot 1037 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 5: of times it evens out. 1038 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 3: But I think Matt. 1039 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 5: Lafleur is stuck in a weird spot with his offense 1040 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 5: because the Packers just can't run the ball. They were 1041 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 5: supposed to have a really good offensive line. They are 1042 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,240 Speaker 5: twenty ninth in run block win rate, and yet they're 1043 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 5: really good protecting Jordan Love. I mean, you watch these 1044 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 5: games and Jordan Love is just chilling back there, and 1045 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 5: I was like, does the eye test matchup with the numbers. 1046 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 5: They're very high in the PFF bringings, their second in 1047 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 5: pass block win rate, and they've got these receivers. So 1048 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 5: you're asking Jordan Love to drop back there because that's 1049 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 5: where your offensive line is good, and yet he's not 1050 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 5: always making great decisions. And I think it's tough in 1051 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 5: this matchup, particularly because this Vikings secondary. Their pass defense 1052 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 5: has been fun to watch. Harrison Smith, this three safety 1053 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 5: tandem between him and cam Binam and Josh Mattellus, who 1054 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 5: they just gave a contract to have been really good 1055 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 5: buying him was the NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Like, 1056 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 5: do the Packers have answers for FLOORA is cooking up 1057 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 5: his mad you know, blitz packages and different coverages and 1058 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 5: changing posts. That that's a lot to ask of Jordan Love. 1059 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 5: I don't feel great about it. 1060 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 3: I don't like it for Jordan Love in this situation. 1061 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 4: I think you're right about the run game, like they've 1062 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 4: not Aaron Jones has essentially played less than Nick Chubb 1063 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 4: this season. 1064 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: He has ninety four yards rushing this year. 1065 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,959 Speaker 4: I think that was so key to them because AJ 1066 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 4: Dillon has not been helpful at all. You don't have him, 1067 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 4: Brian Flores defense number one and blitz rate and Harrison Smith. 1068 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 4: Guys like Harris Smith's using them creatively. And I just 1069 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,439 Speaker 4: wonder about Jordan Love. The offense to me is looked 1070 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 4: discombobulated in general. There's a lot of just young players 1071 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 4: around him. And is this a situation with if you're 1072 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 4: the Vikings where I think there's just a lot of 1073 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: energy on that defense. It showed up last week. You 1074 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 4: got guys like Jordan Addison on offense wilding up. And 1075 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 4: the next four opponents for the Vikings are the Falcon, Saints, 1076 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 4: Broncos and Bears. Could this be the start of a 1077 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 4: run that I think you pointed to Minnesota wise Dan, 1078 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 4: when we didn't get them forked out of this situation 1079 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: like they're a weird team. They're still in all these 1080 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 4: one score games. They lost a bunch, but they're starting 1081 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 4: to win them now. Or they can morph into the 1082 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 4: team we saw last year a little bit. 1083 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the league is filled with parody and 1084 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: they can hanging out and win all of those games. Yeah, 1085 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a little like Jordan Love. I don't 1086 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: think it's playing well at all. And then the numbers 1087 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: are backing that up. He has the lowest completion percentage 1088 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 2: in the NFL. They they're averaging I believe, about seventeen 1089 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 2: points a game right now. And so the ball they're 1090 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 2: not moving the ball and and they're not scoring points, and. 1091 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 5: The defense is bad. That's the disappointing part for me. 1092 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 5: I guess it's not surprising, but they have a lot 1093 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 5: of good players on their defense. 1094 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 2: And you know, you haven't been bailed out by the 1095 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: running game at all, because you've had Aaron Jones has 1096 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 2: been banged up, like AJ Dillon is a leading rusher 1097 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: for this team. 1098 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's a tough situation. For Green Bay. 1099 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: But at the same time, like. 1100 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: You don't just always Mark just something that is given 1101 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 2: certain fan bases a lot of aggravation. It's like you 1102 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 2: don't always just to keep roll into one dynasty to 1103 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 2: the next, one era to the next. Like this is 1104 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 2: a transition here, Vikings. Let's see you take care of 1105 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 2: business with Kenny, Albert and Vilma on the call. 1106 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it is back to you. All right. 1107 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 4: I could see you saying, I'm not taking the greatest 1108 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 4: game here, but it fascinates me on my own level. 1109 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 4: I'm taking the Texans at the Panthers. You've got This 1110 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 4: is a weird note, but this kind of got me 1111 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 4: into it because of course it's Bryce Young versus c J. 1112 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 3: Stroud. Do you know that they met at a middle 1113 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 3: school summer camp? 1114 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: Wow? I was there too? 1115 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: Actually were you? I don't think you were unless you 1116 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: were a council. 1117 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 4: You're roughly twenty years older than them, but known each 1118 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 4: other for a long time. And it's a bit of 1119 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 4: a study and like two rebuilding teams that each went 1120 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 4: out and got their quarterback. And we know that the 1121 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 4: Panthers are a disaster right now in a lot of 1122 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 4: levels and it's not going well, and you know it's 1123 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 4: too early to really even its hardy even scout Bryce 1124 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 4: Young in the situation he's in. So it's like I 1125 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 4: kind of just see what happens. But Jason, well what 1126 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 4: it's for it, I mean, you know. 1127 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 3: A little bit better. Yet he's coming off his best game. CJ. 1128 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 5: Stroud coming off his worst, and that in that particular game, 1129 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 5: I thought Bryce Young played excellent in the first half 1130 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 5: of that game and was fine in the second. 1131 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 4: He's made a couple of passes in every one of 1132 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 4: these games, but also some like massive blunders, and I 1133 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 4: think it's he's in a bad ecosystem. 1134 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 3: The c J. 1135 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 4: Stroud, like Bobby Slowick offense and what they're doing in general, 1136 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 4: Like they've won three of their last four games by 1137 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 4: by seven or more points. They're like turning into a 1138 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 4: real thing. And I know they've been sort of a 1139 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 4: team of ATM like possibility. I think this feels like 1140 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of a trap game to me, just 1141 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 4: because like Caroline, at some points gonna do it. But 1142 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 4: I just think the Texans to me under Stroud, like 1143 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 4: they have I thought, I think they're well coached, that. 1144 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 2: They're pretty you know, fortunate to get out of New 1145 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 2: Orleans there on Thursday night with a tight end dropping 1146 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 2: the ball there, not saying that that that means that 1147 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 2: they didn't deserve to win that game, because they did. 1148 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: But I'm I'm also not This one kind of was 1149 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 2: on my radart of it because I was like, oh, 1150 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 2: this would be a game to lock up lock up 1151 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: the winless against the winless team. But yeah, I like 1152 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: that the that you got Frank whright, got to go 1153 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 2: into the by with Bryce Young coming off a good game, 1154 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 2: and now they can kind of reset things against the 1155 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 2: Houston defense. Greg that while this team has improved, there's 1156 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: no reason to think that the Panthers might not have 1157 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 2: success here at home and maybe finally get that first win. 1158 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: I think this game they think this could be it. 1159 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 5: They could be it. I know they it doesn't They 1160 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 5: shouldn't be this bad. I think it's a great test 1161 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 5: of you know, first year head coaches coming off of bye. 1162 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 5: In general, I think coming off the bye is a 1163 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 5: great test of coaches, and that they're both doing it 1164 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 5: is interesting. And I mentioned I liked what I saw 1165 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 5: at Bryce Young in a Miami game, especially in the 1166 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 5: first half. 1167 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 3: They had some answers. I am a little worried about 1168 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 3: their pass. 1169 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,479 Speaker 5: Protection versus Will Anderson and Jonathan Garnard, who have really 1170 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 5: been a nice tandem. Anderson is one you mentioned. You know, 1171 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 5: we're using the whole trayvon Walker Saxtony how he's playing 1172 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 5: with Will Anderson. It's absolutely true. He is really playing outstanding. 1173 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 5: His hurries, his hits are there with the leaders in 1174 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 5: the league. It hasn't translated to sacks. It has a 1175 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 5: little more for Gernard on the other side. So that's 1176 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 5: a worry, worrisome factor. And I'm gonna go fantasy here. 1177 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 5: It's like, if we're ever gonna get Damian Pearson my 1178 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 5: preseason prediction to be right. 1179 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 3: Ever, this is it. 1180 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 5: There's too many negative runs in this Houston offense. There's 1181 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 5: supposed to be a forty nine ers like offense. So 1182 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 5: many and this is the worst run defense in the 1183 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,760 Speaker 5: entire NFL. It's one of the very worst defenses in general. 1184 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 5: That's a big reason why they're owing six nice said 1185 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 5: Bryce Young doesn't get you know, it's not his fault 1186 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 5: that they're the worst run defense in the NFL. 1187 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: And what a nice uh, what a nice pickup for 1188 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: fantasy owners and feeling turning into like garbage stats monster. 1189 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: I wonder it would be with the trade deadline coming up, 1190 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: it would be really nice to see the Panthers maybe 1191 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 2: pull something off and get another playmaker there. 1192 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 4: And it sounds like they want to. They've they've been 1193 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 4: talked about for a couple of weeks. Is wanting a 1194 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 4: wide receiver. That's gonna change. 1195 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: Let us see And by the way, to your point, 1196 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 2: Will Anderson, he's just got one sack, but eight QB hits. 1197 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 2: That's tied for most on the team, second most QB 1198 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: hits in NFL among rookies. I don't know if you 1199 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 2: know who would have the most hits amongst rookies QB 1200 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 2: hit Yalen Carter Byron Young of the La Rams. 1201 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 5: Well, nice nic agent zero. I think they call him. 1202 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 5: By the way, Texans three point favorites. All right, let's 1203 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 5: move to Greg Okay, I'm gonna take I got a 1204 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 5: certain strategy this Sunday. It's a weird sunny Falcons Titans. 1205 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 5: Falcons are two and a half point favorites on the 1206 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 5: road against the Titans. Let's review the Titans quarterback situation. 1207 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 5: Our guy Ian Rabbitport reported Will Levis is being prepared 1208 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 5: to start multiple times all week, and this was on 1209 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 5: my raidar. Mike Rabel came out and said, we're preparing 1210 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 5: both players to play. And when he said that, I 1211 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 5: was like, does that mean that Levis is starting? But 1212 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 5: they've sort of got some fun plays for Malik Phyllis. 1213 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 5: And then the reporters locally came back with him saying, hey, 1214 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 5: your guy rap sheet. Maybe you knew him back when 1215 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 5: he was a Patriots reporter. Maybe not not sure if 1216 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 5: they crossed paths. Okay, he reported, well, Levis is starting, 1217 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 5: what do you say? He's like, I'm preparing both players play, 1218 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 5: So I think we know Levis starting a little bit 1219 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 5: of Willis. And then Tannehill showed up at practice Thursday 1220 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 5: trying or Wednesday trying to do some stuff, and I 1221 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 5: never you never know, so we could see him. I 1222 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 5: just wanted to update you on the quarterbacks. Thank you 1223 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 5: for the Tennessee Titan, and maybe we can put. 1224 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 2: Some like Halloween harror music under that, because I have 1225 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: to say, like, does this ever work? Like, Oh, Team 1226 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 2: X planning to use multiple quarterbacks on Sunday, It's like 1227 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: good luck. It's like we don't have a quarterback we 1228 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 2: like enough to actually play. So we're gonna we're gonna 1229 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 2: kitchen sink it and hope something happens. But you also 1230 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: you get it because Malik Willis, you know, God love him, 1231 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: has been a disaster and what we've seen of him 1232 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 2: as a pro so far. And now Levis, who is 1233 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 2: touted as a guy with tools but raw and needs 1234 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: needs time to develop. Now you're gonna now develop means here, 1235 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: welcome to week eight. You're now playing in the NFL. 1236 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: So I think maybe Rabel greg is trying to keep 1237 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 2: his options open knowing that you know, both of those 1238 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 2: things can get hairy. 1239 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: So maybe if we will little this little of that. 1240 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 4: Wait, there's got no evidence that Mike Rabel is in 1241 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 4: support of Malik Willis as his quarterback on any level. 1242 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,040 Speaker 4: It dates back to last season when they got Josh 1243 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 4: Dobb zero. 1244 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 2: Zero chance Derek Henry doesn't get out of this game 1245 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 2: without throwing a pass, Well. 1246 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,000 Speaker 3: That may be their best option. 1247 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean coming out of the London game, Like, the 1248 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 4: most striking visuals we saw were Ryan tannilent tandle getting 1249 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 4: destroyed by the Ravens. 1250 00:54:58,840 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 3: So it's like not a. 1251 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 4: Good all offensive line Malik Willis has shown us nothing. Well, Levis, 1252 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 4: like you didn't beat out Malik Willis in camp. That's 1253 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 4: a bit concerning. I mean I like the idea. I'm 1254 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: a little bit better. I think if you're in reverse. 1255 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 4: If the Falcons are ever going to run the ball well, 1256 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 4: like in the last couple of weeks, the Colts ran 1257 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,279 Speaker 4: over for one hundred and ninety three yards. Last week 1258 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 4: the Ravens crushed the Titans for one hundred and thirty nine. 1259 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 4: If the Falcons are ever going to do this, maybe 1260 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,760 Speaker 4: it's this week because they've been a good run deem myself. 1261 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 2: How's our friend, how's our front beijon this week? Is 1262 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 2: he physically is he practicing? 1263 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 1: Is he? 1264 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 5: I think he's expected to play. But they're not a 1265 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 5: good running team. I mean he's a great running back, 1266 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 5: but they're not a good running team. They've been more 1267 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 5: effective throwing the ball, except for the plays where Desmond 1268 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 5: Rider gives it away like Ritter is coming off, you know, 1269 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 5: the best two game stretch of his career. But it's 1270 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 5: just crazy that, like, oh wow, Desmond Ridder making nice throws. 1271 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 5: He did it last week. I was impressed with a 1272 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 5: lot of his throws and then he just kills you 1273 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 5: with the mistakes. 1274 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: The timing of the mistakes. 1275 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, three red zone turnovers last week, and they're averaging 1276 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 2: thirteen points the game. 1277 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 5: But they also could be five and three after this week. 1278 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 5: They are favored. 1279 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think Colleen was on to something. All Right, 1280 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: Greg snakes to you. 1281 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 3: All right, I am going to take the Saints and. 1282 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 5: The Colts alright, a rematch of one of my favorite 1283 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 5: Super Bowls of all time a long time ago. 1284 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 3: Now it was Saints are one point favorites on the road. 1285 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 5: Don't like that. I like the underdog in this game. 1286 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,439 Speaker 5: I think the Colts are a better team overall, and 1287 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 5: I think the Saints. There's just a lot going on 1288 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 5: with this Saints team. Defensively, they can lock you up. 1289 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 5: But I really liked what I saw out of Indianapolis 1290 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 5: in terms of their ground game and what they got 1291 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 5: going with Jonathan Taylor and the way Shanstiken can change 1292 00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 5: his game plan from week to week. And I think's 1293 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 5: health really gives them a lot of options. 1294 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: Minshew. 1295 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 5: He's not going to be Anthony Richardson, but he can 1296 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 5: at least provide a little bit of run threat on 1297 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 5: some of those fakes that work well enough, and I 1298 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,200 Speaker 5: just think they've been a tough minded team for the 1299 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 5: most part, and the Saints are not a tough minded 1300 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 5: team in my mind. 1301 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 4: Minshew ran the ball really well against Cleveland and it 1302 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 4: was like design run territories, and I think he gives 1303 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 4: them that. I mean, it's been a couple sort of 1304 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 4: somewhat atypical weeks for Minshe because of the giveaways coming 1305 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 4: into this season, like his touchdown to interception ratio was 1306 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 4: pretty spectacular, and the mistakes have cropped up and they've 1307 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 4: coached around it a little bit. I would also say 1308 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 4: that he's had a really nice connection with Josh Downs, 1309 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 4: who has been great as a rookie for them, and 1310 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 4: Michael Pittman two and so there's the big plays are happening, 1311 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 4: and I think the biggest development there is that Jonathan 1312 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 4: Taylor against Cleveland looked like the Jonathan Taylor that we've 1313 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 4: waited for, and that can change everything for them. 1314 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 2: Minshew has thrown four innerse options targeting Michael Pittman for 1315 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: next gen stacks, and then Michael Pittman came out after 1316 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 2: the loss last week and said, maybe I'm not like 1317 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: an important guy in this offense, erase the dryboard. Because 1318 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 2: the wide receiver has spoken about being unhappy. So you 1319 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: know what happens, because you saw what happened last week 1320 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 2: with Tomtay Adams. They will funnel targets to Pittman to 1321 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 2: try to keep him happy. 1322 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 3: Let's give him some credit. 1323 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 5: Though, on Wednesday, unprompted, he all the reporters over and said, like, man, 1324 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 5: I was in my head Sunday, I was kind of 1325 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 5: being an ass and apologize. 1326 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,439 Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say he was being an ass. 1327 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 2: He said, I'm a sore loser, Like I don't, I 1328 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: hate losing, and like I get that. 1329 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 5: Is a culpa though unprompted, So I give it to 1330 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 5: Derek Carr. 1331 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 2: He had a heart to heart with Chris Alave and 1332 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: so they've had very productive conversations this week and they 1333 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 2: had a great week of practice. 1334 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with that. 1335 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 2: I felt real bad for that wide receiver on Thursday 1336 00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 2: night the drop, and I like seeing Alvin Kamara take 1337 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 2: him off the field because he was just sitting alone 1338 00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 2: on the bench at the game long over. 1339 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: Good leadership from Kamara. And then my last. 1340 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 2: Thought, because we don't get to talk about Thursday night 1341 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 2: football when we're not on the games. Greg Kamara is 1342 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 2: fascinating in this offense because he just gets the ball constantly, 1343 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 2: and Derek Carr, who's never been afraid of a checkdown, 1344 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 2: now has one of the great checkdown running backs of 1345 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 2: his era in Kamara. It was tough to watch Kamara 1346 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 2: unable to crack that end zone. I know he's hyper productive, 1347 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 2: but the old Kamara in that game finds the goal 1348 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 2: line and gets himself over. That's the slight difference with 1349 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: him that he doesn't have that same whatever it is, 1350 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 2: is just a little bit off where he doesn't have 1351 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 2: that same nose for the end zone, which he was 1352 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,439 Speaker 2: unparalleled a few years back. 1353 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 5: I agree with you, he's not forcing as many mistackles, 1354 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 5: but five or six of those throws were Carr coming 1355 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 5: to the checkdown too quickly. 1356 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 2: Right, I'm kind of referring to that one red zone driver. 1357 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 2: They said, I'm going to give you the ball four 1358 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 2: times aka get in, and he didn't. 1359 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: But he's a PPR most so I'll tell you that, 1360 00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: all right. 1361 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 2: Uh and oh, one last note, Ersay, owner of the Cults, 1362 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 2: came out and said that the NFL now this is 1363 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 2: what the owner of the coult said. Yeah, that the 1364 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: NFL said both those calls were wrong late against Cleveland, 1365 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 2: both against the same defensive back. His name is escaping 1366 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 2: me as anybody recall it, both the defensive holding against 1367 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 2: Cooper and then the PI when the ball was almost 1368 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 2: thrown into the front row. It was it Dallas Baker 1369 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 2: doesn't help. It doesn't help the standings. But I guess 1370 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 2: if I'm a cult span, I'm like, Okay, at least 1371 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 2: the NFL said we boofed it. 1372 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 5: Well, but they're also going to find j Mersey based 1373 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 5: on past precedent. 1374 01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, publicly, which he doesn't care. 1375 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 4: That's fine, But I like Anders says things you don't 1376 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 4: want him to say. 1377 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 3: We all get that. 1378 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: He says things, Oh you would care, you would care, 1379 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Roberts if it was the bills, right. 1380 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 3: I liked it. It came out and said this. I 1381 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: liked it. 1382 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 1: He did that. 1383 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: You want your owner to hold the NFL's feet to 1384 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 2: the fire if they if they boof it. 1385 01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, of course that was more. I don't care that 1386 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 8: I'm getting fined as Jim. He's printing money. He doesn't 1387 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 8: care about you know, it's always good for them. To 1388 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 8: like speak up about a mistake. But yeah, that was 1389 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 8: more of a first not caring about it. 1390 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 5: I like you when Eric, when you wear this uh 1391 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 5: buttons up Bill's bills, buttoned up Polo, it really pops. 1392 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 8: You know, I don't I want to dress up for 1393 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 8: game day, but I just don't like wearing a jersey 1394 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 8: around the office. 1395 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Take down that one lapel Breasa hart side, Yeah, down 1396 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. There we go. There you go, and 1397 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: look how clean that mustache is cleaned up? You know, 1398 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: it looks good. This is why you watch the YouTube. 1399 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 3: Show do you put wax on it? Product? It's curious Thursday. 1400 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 8: I know there might be some camera time on Thursday, 1401 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 8: so you get it, you know, yeah, any of the 1402 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 8: guys are. 1403 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: At all the time. 1404 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 3: He'll be down there and makeup, and. 1405 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 2: There's a Tyson Pagent thing going on right now because 1406 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 2: look how clean cut Roberts looks. And then you know, 1407 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 2: you start, you know, pulling up the sleeve or you 1408 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 2: see him in a pair of shorts, and all of 1409 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 2: a sudden, it's like, am I at the Bikers Association 1410 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 2: of America. 1411 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 8: Got to see me on the weekend for SHO I 1412 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 8: would say that this show is a history of producers 1413 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 8: for increasing and increasing camera time as the months go on, 1414 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 8: and I'm not when you got Eric in that tornado, I. 1415 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Think you've you've really maneuvered yourself very well, Eric, and 1416 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,040 Speaker 2: you're doing a great job as our producer. 1417 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Mark back to you, all right. 1418 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,200 Speaker 3: I'll take Patriots at Dolphins. 1419 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 4: Patriots getting nine and a half in this huge, like 1420 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 4: season saving or salvaging victory against the Bills, I don't 1421 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 4: know if they can, if they could do it, if 1422 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 4: they could ever pull it off in Miami, that would 1423 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 4: be wild. I feel like the dating back to like 1424 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 4: the middle of the eighteen hundreds, weird things happen to 1425 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 4: the Patriots in Miami. 1426 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Usually not good. 1427 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, weird things be like a typical. 1428 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 5: Trying to make a tackle on a return. Yeah, that 1429 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 5: those sort of things. 1430 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 4: I feel like those things don't matter, but then they 1431 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 4: kind of just seems to happen every year. I I 1432 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 4: do look back at the first game though, where I 1433 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 4: think Miami against Philadelphia, and like the two winning teams 1434 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 4: they've faced, they lost both of them. I don't know 1435 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 4: what that tells me about the Dolphins. It's a little concerning. 1436 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 4: They couldn't run the ball last week. I think it's 1437 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 4: really important that someone like Raheem Mostert, who blew up 1438 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 4: for one hundred and twenty one yards and two touchdowns 1439 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 4: with a forty three yard scamper against New England, like simper, 1440 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,200 Speaker 4: if you can do that, like you're fine. You're absolutely fine, 1441 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 4: because the only other thing about their offense, like most 1442 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 4: actually did not practice. He's got a banged up ankle. 1443 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill has a banged up hip. It's like if 1444 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 4: you start to lose parts like then it's Mike McDaniel's challenge, 1445 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,919 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniels challenge to get out of not being able 1446 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 4: to do what he's done week after week. But I'm 1447 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 4: leaning on the concept that what happened against New England 1448 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 4: had a lot to do with the Bills being in 1449 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,360 Speaker 4: a funk and some of their strengths maybe working against Buffalo. 1450 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 4: But to do it two weeks in a row, I 1451 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 4: can't get on. 1452 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 3: Board with that. 1453 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 5: Tyreekho did return on Thursday, which great news because the 1454 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 5: vibes didn't sound great with him right on Wednesday. But 1455 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 5: it sounds like he'll be back for this game. It's 1456 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 5: a big time test, I think for both coaches. I 1457 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,800 Speaker 5: think playing Belichick the second time is a unique test 1458 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 5: in general in the afcast, but it goes the other 1459 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 5: way too, So McDaniel and him having to go against 1460 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 5: each other twice in such a short time. I think 1461 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 5: you look at what the Patriots did last time they played, 1462 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,720 Speaker 5: which was just back the hell up and try to 1463 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 5: prevent the big play and slow it down. 1464 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: And they did an okay job at that. 1465 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 5: But I think they'll look at what Philadelphia did and 1466 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 5: was really effective and I think really interesting, which is 1467 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 5: Philadelphia really sold out to stop the run. They also 1468 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 5: played almost entirely in zone coverage and they were in 1469 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,760 Speaker 5: cover too, just totally backed up trying to prevent the 1470 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 5: big play. I mean, mostly everyone does that, but they 1471 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 5: really made a point to have a lot of guys 1472 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,360 Speaker 5: on the line of scrimmage and prevent the run from 1473 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 5: getting going and put them in long yardage situations. It's 1474 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 5: an interesting way to attack the Dolphins and it worked 1475 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 5: quite well. 1476 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 2: Massive, Massive, and I buy into this trap game implications 1477 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 2: for the Dolphins coming off Philadelphia in primetime, you get 1478 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 2: the Pats at home, and then you go to Kansas 1479 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 2: City next week in primetime to Germany. 1480 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh. 1481 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Shoot, that's right. Nine thirty am, Lower Prime. They're in 1482 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 2: Germany for christ Sake, So the idea they're they're trying 1483 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 2: to find their passports on Saturday on Saturday night when 1484 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 2: maybe they should be studying what's going on with the 1485 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 2: Patriots team. That this is gonna sound silly, but it 1486 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 2: is a fact as a fact they had when things 1487 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 2: were in They are the little rock bottom moment there, 1488 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 2: that two week stretch, Greggie, which is very tough for 1489 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 2: you and the and the Pats fans. Thirty eight three 1490 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 2: thirty four zip they have had since they've had the 1491 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 2: Buffalo win, and in general, every other game other than 1492 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 2: those two, it's been the loss has been seven points 1493 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,200 Speaker 2: or less. So it's not they and they they did 1494 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 2: they did less than six weeks ago kind of shut 1495 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,959 Speaker 2: down the Miami tack or slow it down. So while 1496 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 2: this certainly certainly could be twenty one nothing at the 1497 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 2: end of the first quarter, I guess it's just that 1498 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 2: old Belichick maybe has something up a sleeve, and the 1499 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Miami has yet to earn the benefit of the doubt 1500 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 2: that they could roll over anybody they want. I see 1501 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 2: them rolling over certain teams and not others. And I 1502 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 2: don't think the Dolpins. 1503 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 4: Well, so they destroyed, no doubt, But I I just 1504 01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 4: I refuse to accept that the Patriots, like especially on offense, 1505 01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 4: have been reborn. I mean, prior to the Bills game, 1506 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 4: their point totals last four weeks for fifteen points three 1507 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 4: they got shut out by the Saints, give me a break, 1508 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 4: and seventeen against the Well. 1509 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 2: I didn't say that the offense the Patriots offen. I 1510 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 2: just think like, you got you gotta find it. Dolphins 1511 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 2: can run though. 1512 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 4: If the Dolphins can do it with Moster, like, you've 1513 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 4: got to find a way to hang around with Miami, 1514 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 4: And I just like, how is well they're in New 1515 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:37,959 Speaker 4: England's way. 1516 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,600 Speaker 3: Out there, They're a different offense. 1517 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: They've already done it. 1518 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,960 Speaker 5: They they've gotten their offensive line healthier so and when 1519 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 5: they were playing right tackle really shores up what I 1520 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 5: was saying was the weakest position in football. And then 1521 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,439 Speaker 5: Cole Stranger attorney at I think they have a good 1522 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,120 Speaker 5: starting good enough starting five now in the offensive line, 1523 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 5: and that was a problem. 1524 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 3: And then uh we got Pop Douglas. 1525 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,439 Speaker 5: Mark We're a different team here with Pop Douglas. 1526 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Doug It's crazy. 1527 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 5: That a late round rookie like you know, gadget looking 1528 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 5: type of player is obviously the best and most explosive 1529 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 5: offensive player on the Patriots. 1530 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 3: It's not even like a question. 1531 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 5: He's literally the only one on the team that can 1532 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 5: make anyone miss. 1533 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 8: Uh. 1534 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 5: They also don't have Christian Gonzales, who played really well 1535 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 5: in that first game, helping out against Tyreek Hill, and 1536 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 5: instead you got J. C. Jackson, who's thinking, I already 1537 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 5: got roasted by Tyreek Hill in Week one with the Chargers. 1538 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 5: Now I get traded to another team, then I gotta 1539 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 5: go deal with Tyreek Hill. 1540 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:32,479 Speaker 1: That's not fun. 1541 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 2: All right, Let's take a break and we'll close out 1542 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 2: the draft. All right, we're back. Let's close this thing. 1543 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: Out back to back. Pick those got five games. 1544 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 2: I only got two eyes, folks. We'll have to work 1545 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 2: that out. Let's start interesting, all right, So there are 1546 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 2: the two teams in the Super Bowl? Are from last 1547 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 2: year are available? Is that right? That's how this this 1548 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 2: ended up? 1549 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's the opponents. 1550 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Let's start with uh. And let's start with the Chiefs 1551 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 2: at the Broncos. Chiefs getting seven points here as they should, 1552 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 2: in fact a little generous for the Broncos. So now 1553 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos have played better. I think, like the Patriots, 1554 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 2: we've probably seen probably seen the worst of them this year, 1555 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 2: and now they're gonna start kind of figuring things out, 1556 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 2: hanging in games and not being a laughing stock. 1557 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it was interesting to. 1558 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 2: See certain things with the Chiefs offense. You saw vintage 1559 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey last week for the kind of first time 1560 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,160 Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, that's that's the dude. You saw 1561 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 2: vintage Mahomes who you know, his ability is peerless, ability 1562 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 2: to just manipulate and full defenses. With his ability outside 1563 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 2: the pocket, I mean, he's at his peak form and 1564 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 2: just creating big plays just with his eyes and his 1565 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 2: legs and his hanny ability to know exactly where the 1566 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage is. 1567 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 1568 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 2: And then you have Rashid Rice, who they've been waiting. 1569 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 2: Who is the guy that's gonna step up? It's Rice, 1570 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 2: And you look at all the data points behind it 1571 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 2: his ability. He's their slot guy now, and he is 1572 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 2: their yards after catch guy over the middle, and he's 1573 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,080 Speaker 2: filling He's filling a very important role if this stays 1574 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 2: where it is. So everybody talked about Cadarius Tony before 1575 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 2: the season. 1576 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: He's just a guy. He will always be just a guy. 1577 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 2: And they maybe even can use someone else Greg with 1578 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 2: the trade deadline coming up. Nicole Hardman is is just 1579 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 2: a guy himself. But you're starting to see the chief. 1580 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 3: Guys though, they get rid of something bringing anyone in. 1581 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,440 Speaker 2: You you gotta, you gotta, you gotta say the Chiefs 1582 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 2: might be starting to figure it out on offense again, 1583 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 2: and with that defense that they're paired with, they're scary. 1584 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 5: They you know, are the Super Bowl favorites. I am, oh, hey, 1585 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 5: all right, we got we got all the youth culture. 1586 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 5: Now cut that for social media. You don't need to 1587 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 5: know more than Patrick Mahomes and with one of the 1588 01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 5: better defensive league, that's all you need to know. And 1589 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 5: the fact that the offense is coming off a good game. 1590 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 5: I'm not going to say the offense is back though, 1591 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 5: because just two weeks ago against this very same Broncos team, 1592 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 5: who at the time had a historically bad defense, the Chiefs. 1593 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 3: Offense didn't really maybe figured out. 1594 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 5: Yes, I tend to agree, because again it's Patrick Mahomes 1595 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 5: and in a really good offensive line. So that's the 1596 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 5: mismatch to me and That's ultimately the problem for the 1597 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 5: rest of the NFL is the Chiefs pass protection has 1598 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 5: been incredible this year, and you have a matchup this 1599 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,639 Speaker 5: week where it's like, okay, you want to throw Nick 1600 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,160 Speaker 5: Benito and Zach Allen and Jonathan Cooper at us, Like, okay, 1601 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,280 Speaker 5: good luck with that. I have a feeling we're scoring 1602 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,799 Speaker 5: more than nineteen points this time around. 1603 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,799 Speaker 3: I don't like the two matchups in three weeks. 1604 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,400 Speaker 5: I know the NFL scheduled makers are in a tough spot, 1605 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,840 Speaker 5: and it happens once or twice a year spots. 1606 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 2: Now I think, remember it used to be like they 1607 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 2: put them in a conference room with cigarettes and you know, 1608 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 2: sendence takeout for three months and lock the door and 1609 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 2: figure out the schedule your ghouls. 1610 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 1: And now it's just like a I figured out matchups. 1611 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 3: It is primarily done by a We were not a human. 1612 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 5: We were just in London doing this recap like a 1613 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 5: week ago. 1614 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 3: It feels like it is silly. 1615 01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 5: It maybe the Denver defense, though now Mark is is normal. 1616 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 5: I don't know, well, two weeks they played normal. 1617 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 4: They did, you know, nineteen points against the Chiefs, seventeen 1618 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,640 Speaker 4: against a pretty shaky Packers offense. I'm not taking too 1619 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 4: much from any of that, but I think that you 1620 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 4: look at like what heck occurred in that game when 1621 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,679 Speaker 4: they played them just days ago. It feels like Travis 1622 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 4: Kelcey had a huge, monster performance. I mean, I think 1623 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 4: that can happen again, no problem. And it's like, in 1624 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 4: what area does Denver outshine Kansas City on any level? 1625 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 3: It's like they haven't beat him in how many years? 1626 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 3: Sixteen straight losses? Patrick, there is not at all. 1627 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,360 Speaker 5: They didn't have Justin No, they did have Justin Simmons 1628 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,480 Speaker 5: back for that, they go, Yeah, the interception. 1629 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 4: Over Mahomes is twenty nine and three versus the AFC 1630 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,600 Speaker 4: West and sixteen straight wins over the Broncos. 1631 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:12,679 Speaker 3: They don't match up well. 1632 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,519 Speaker 4: And this is one of the messier versions of the 1633 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,439 Speaker 4: Broncos defense we've seen. 1634 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 2: I think if you're Sean McVay and note Sean Payton, 1635 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 2: you're just like, how do I get out of here 1636 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,160 Speaker 2: without being humiliated again? And it is the scary thing 1637 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 2: I think Greg is we say things like the Chiefs 1638 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,879 Speaker 2: you know recently is two weeks ago. They're still funky. 1639 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 2: They are still second in total yards, they are first 1640 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 2: and third down percentage, they are six tied for six 1641 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,599 Speaker 2: and points per game like, and that's after a kind 1642 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 2: of slow start. Yep, I think there is going to 1643 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 2: be a greg There could be a conversation and we 1644 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 2: should move on. But when we're at in Vegas for 1645 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, God willing, is this the best Chiefs 1646 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 2: team yet? 1647 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: That is going to be maybe the narrative around the AFC. 1648 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,720 Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna have to show me more offensively, but 1649 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 5: certainly the best defense. And know, by the way, they 1650 01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,320 Speaker 5: added Charles a Menaheue who's been a very productive player 1651 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 5: off of his suspension for domestic violence last week and 1652 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,760 Speaker 5: he had, you know, an immediate impact for their for 1653 01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 5: their team this run. By the way, the Broncos, they're 1654 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,160 Speaker 5: running offense very good. Yeah, they did a nice job 1655 01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 5: showcasing Judy and Sutton last week. They both had nice games. 1656 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 5: The offense is actually average. I don't know if that's 1657 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,720 Speaker 5: good enough, but the offense is okay. So it's a 1658 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,719 Speaker 5: showcase day. We're gonna showcase Judy and Sutton for the deadline? 1659 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,120 Speaker 2: Please can we just And I hated it when it 1660 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,839 Speaker 2: happened in seven I hated in the moment had happened 1661 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 2: when a Raiders future Hall of Famer got traded and 1662 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 2: was all of a sudden playing with one of the 1663 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks of all. 1664 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,920 Speaker 1: Time, and Randy Moss and Tom Brady made beautiful magic. 1665 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not for the Raiders. Can you imagine DeVante Adams? 1666 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 3: Well, why would they do that? They're not gonna help 1667 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,759 Speaker 3: out Risper about that on this show. 1668 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, for fun thinking about them together. 1669 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 3: That would be true. 1670 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 5: Davis is not. I actually think he is rightful enough. 1671 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 5: He would never allow that to happen, is he. 1672 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: Though we don't know Mark like we knew Al I 1673 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 1: hang out. 1674 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,719 Speaker 3: I didn't meet Mark Davis at the Super Bowl. 1675 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,560 Speaker 1: You hang out with them in the bars a lot. Yeah. 1676 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 5: AFC West is not helping out the Chiefs as they 1677 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 5: clinched their seventeen. 1678 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 1: You know what. 1679 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 2: Another thing, if you want to talk about traits of 1680 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,280 Speaker 2: the Raiders historically unpredictable, you're right. I'm just saying I 1681 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,760 Speaker 2: would like well, I would love actually my favorite teams 1682 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 2: in the AFC, So I don't want to see this, 1683 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 2: but it would be fun as hell. 1684 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,880 Speaker 1: It's they do need another Wide receive the. 1685 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,439 Speaker 3: Juiciest landing spot for DeVante Adams by. 1686 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Far, which is why we did not even bring it 1687 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 2: up in the year. The GM segment, well done by 1688 01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 2: all involved. All Right, finally Eagles at Commanders, your fifth game. 1689 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I am not looking forward to the post 1690 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,440 Speaker 5: show rejiggering. 1691 01:14:58,640 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 3: This is confusing. 1692 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 1: That's blame the AI bots. 1693 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they stuck it to us. 1694 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,839 Speaker 1: He did it. Uh yeah. 1695 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Sam Howell is uh, he's he's gonna be the He's 1696 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 2: gonna be the decider here whether this game is a 1697 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 2: blowout or not. If he's throwing the ball for grabs 1698 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 2: and he's running for his life. Terrible job by the 1699 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:26,200 Speaker 2: offensive line against the Giants, then uh, there's gonna be 1700 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,200 Speaker 2: some turnovers and then the Eagles are going to just 1701 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 2: start humming and this is going to be grim. But 1702 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 2: GREGI are we still on the point where we're a 1703 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 2: little bit noivous about the Philly offense. We're just talking 1704 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:38,679 Speaker 2: about KC. 1705 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 5: Okay, No, I mean there there are a little meat 1706 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,599 Speaker 5: and potatoes. It's not a lot of variation. I think 1707 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 5: it was interesting that Vic Fangio was in that building 1708 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 5: and knows that team. You know, he made a very 1709 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 5: similar approach to what the Eagles did. Defensively, and he 1710 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 5: really played it. They played in base defense the whole game, 1711 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 5: and they said, we're gonna stop your running game if 1712 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,960 Speaker 5: at all possible, and we think we have a better 1713 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,880 Speaker 5: chance of winning if Hurtz is throwing the ball down 1714 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 5: the field. And they did get a couple of turnovers 1715 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 5: out of it, and that to me is telling. I 1716 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 5: just don't know if the Commanders are set up to 1717 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 5: possibly do it. They didn't do it when they played 1718 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 5: earlier this year, but neither of the Eagles defense. The 1719 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,719 Speaker 5: worst performance by the Eagles defense all season was against 1720 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 5: these Commanders. They actually didn't really get after Sam Howell 1721 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,840 Speaker 5: that well, and that that game, same Howl was kind 1722 01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 5: of throwing the ball all over the field. 1723 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 3: There was a fun game. 1724 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,640 Speaker 5: This matchup over the last few years, including the Commanders 1725 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,320 Speaker 5: you know win over them last year, has been you know, 1726 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 5: very close down to the wires. Just one of those 1727 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 5: division matchups. So I think six and a half points 1728 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 5: a little too much for washing for. 1729 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 4: They It might be, I mean, like Howell, they may 1730 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,639 Speaker 4: not have gotten to him in the way that he's 1731 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 4: been gotten to another games, but he was pressured twenty 1732 01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 4: seven times by the Eagles, which. 1733 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 2: Is twenty seven, tied for the most how many quarters 1734 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,160 Speaker 2: did they play? 1735 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 4: Man right, it was tied for the most in a 1736 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 4: game by any player in twenty twenty three, other than 1737 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 4: the fact that he was tied with himself against in 1738 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,120 Speaker 4: that terrible Buffalo game for a Howell. 1739 01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 3: So they didn't finish those plays and not enough that 1740 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 3: they didn't. 1741 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,519 Speaker 4: But I also think it's like all every week after week, 1742 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 4: it's like, is the offense rounding into shape? I just 1743 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 4: look at the defense they allowed under two hundre yards 1744 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 4: passing to the Dolphins forty five on the ground. 1745 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:19,960 Speaker 3: We talked about how they did that. 1746 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Hurts. 1747 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:22,879 Speaker 3: The giveaways have been the issue. 1748 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 4: But Hurts is playing awesome otherwise, Like I'm not really 1749 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,559 Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, last year, maybe not be exactly 1750 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 4: what we're gonna consistently. Like Hurts is doing incredible things. 1751 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 4: It's been a couple of flurry of giveaways that have 1752 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,440 Speaker 4: caused problems. 1753 01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 5: That you in that game though, so that that is 1754 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 5: something to watch. He's definitely playing this week, but just 1755 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 5: something to watch whether he's as mobile, whether he can 1756 01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 5: run the ball as much, because that would change their 1757 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 5: offense quite a bit. 1758 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,679 Speaker 1: And let's let's give. 1759 01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 2: Him some love because he deserves it and Greg loves it. 1760 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 2: He has major fantasy implications. Greg was like a schoolboy 1761 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 2: when we were in the theater room watching aj Brown 1762 01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,720 Speaker 2: do it again in primetime. 1763 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 1: This man seven hundred and one. 1764 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Yards since Week three, receiving five consecutive games with at 1765 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,800 Speaker 2: least one hundred and twenty five yards Wow through the air. 1766 01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,640 Speaker 2: That ties them with Calvin Johnson and Mark somebody that 1767 01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 2: played when you were in elementary school. Pat stud still 1768 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,760 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty six Lions for the longest streak I was. 1769 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,559 Speaker 3: Not even on the earth, but continue in with. 1770 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,040 Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty five plus receiving yards in edfall history. 1771 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 2: And like what I was saying with Ceedee Lamb, he 1772 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 2: is like like his counterpart rest in peace the twenty 1773 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 2: twenty three Phillies Bryce Harper, like he's the showman. Like 1774 01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 2: when they need a big play, they just He's just got. 1775 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 2: He's just a killer. He is a killer for this 1776 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 2: Philly offense and is definitely in the running for Offensive 1777 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Player of the Year. 1778 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Ooh, how can he not be? 1779 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, of course I would say, like you, you 1780 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 4: just can't drop this. If you're the Eagles, your schedule 1781 01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,080 Speaker 4: is oh, they'll take care of it. 1782 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 3: Well, they will, I agree. 1783 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,759 Speaker 4: Obi this one's coming up though, Cowboys, Chiefs, Bills, Niners, 1784 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 4: Cowboys Seahawks. 1785 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Six and a half. We said, yeah, that was a spread. 1786 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 3: Okay, it's a dangerous one. I'm not I'm not like 1787 01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 3: racking it up. 1788 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 5: It's an interesting one for Washington too though, just because 1789 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 5: again trade deadline. It's fairly on my raidar they need 1790 01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,560 Speaker 5: to push back the trade deadline two weeks, but Washington. 1791 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Going to that. 1792 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 5: There's this whole idea that Chase Young could get traded 1793 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 5: or maybe someone else from this team, and it makes sense. 1794 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,599 Speaker 5: But it's like, is Ron Rivera making the decisions? Because 1795 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,040 Speaker 5: Ron Rivera knows he's out at the end of this year, 1796 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,800 Speaker 5: so who would be making him make any trades? Because 1797 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 5: if I'm Ron Rivera, I'm not trading a thing. What 1798 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 5: does a second round pick next year do any good 1799 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 5: for me? But if they're three and five, maybe there's 1800 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 5: pressure from above saying you got it, you gotta make 1801 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 5: a move. 1802 01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:41,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1803 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 4: Well, it's new ownership, so I don't know what the 1804 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 4: relationship is there in terms of telling Ron Rivera what 1805 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 4: he has to do. But Martin Mayhew doesn't strike me 1806 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 4: as like a super empowered general manner. 1807 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 3: No, it's Rivera. It's Rivera making the calls. 1808 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 2: Buyer up your Philadelphia defenses in fantasy because they're getting 1809 01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,719 Speaker 2: after Sam Howell and they're gonna be playing from behind 1810 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 2: why Washington, and he's going to start throwing it up 1811 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,679 Speaker 2: for grabs and it could be grizzly. 1812 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,000 Speaker 3: I love that for the Eagles, all. 1813 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 2: Right, Greg, another fan, another team on the list? All right, Eagles, Seahawks, 1814 01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:20,080 Speaker 2: Ravens on an island. Only one team can continue to exist. 1815 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 5: It's really not about one team. It's about one man. 1816 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 5: So it's the Seahawks right now. 1817 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 3: Geno trumps all Oh, I just want it. It's been 1818 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,599 Speaker 3: an amazing journey. 1819 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Why is it so personal though the love? 1820 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,680 Speaker 5: It's been a fun journey, and it's like, for you, 1821 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 5: how fun can this get? 1822 01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 3: Because this team is kind of frisky? 1823 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 5: Can he can he be in a big spot in 1824 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 5: a divisional round game? 1825 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 3: That would be fun like that. 1826 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 1: Let's first, we want to see how far the Geno 1827 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: coaster goes. 1828 01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 4: I wish we had an AI service that could tell 1829 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 4: us like who's been mentioned the most over the last 1830 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 4: like eighteen months, because it's got to be Geno Smith 1831 01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 4: number one and then the number two half as many times. 1832 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 2: Rogers got a lot of play this summer, but this podcast, 1833 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,120 Speaker 2: Jordan takes up there. Jordan is up there, all right, 1834 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 2: good stuff, good stuff. We will be back Thursday night, 1835 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 2: Mark and I with recap of Thursday Night football, a 1836 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 2: matchup between. 1837 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 3: Mark, the Bills and the Bucks. 1838 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and uh so make sure you 1839 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 2: check out that and our NFL plus Dreamatorium content rolling 1840 01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 2: out and everything else. 1841 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 1: You've sent your way this week. We appreciate your patronage. 1842 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Until next time, Heed the call.