1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: No, we're gonna forge ahead. We're gonna forge ahead. 2 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: Hey, Ken's going. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to watch the incredibly similating Gish fiancee 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: Chin one Jung match that is currently taking place here 5 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: in your living room. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. Say that again, because you lived in 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: China and you're the only one that I know that 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: looks like you that could say that. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Probably I will ignore the racial undertones of that comment 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: and say thank you. Her name is pronounced chin one jung, 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: which sound is how you pronounce a q in Chinese, 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: and jung is the j sound that the company is 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: a z and h. 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: I lived in Beijing for. 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: A little while, and I am trying to relearn my 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: mannerin on dual lingo because it's fun but good. 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: I would say that war Shung shirt. 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: She wons tennis Shojigga Tobia Plian. It's very beautiful to 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: watch her tennis because she gets really smooth. She's only 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: twenty and she and eager Shpantac had a incredible match 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: at the French Open this year where Chin one was 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: the only person who took a set off of Ega. 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: And so I've been pretty pumped about watching these two 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: play each other because they were young and they're both 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: up and coming, and you know. 26 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to see how Eager handles it, 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: because look, you know, after the US Open, you're tapped, 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: and especially for her having won the us SO Show, 29 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: having had the year that she's had, you can't. This 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: is what's so hard about being a tennis buyer is 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: that it is a year long slog. And you know, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: currently she's obviously she just played a tournament in the 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: Czech Republic. She lost in a very very very good 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: tight match with Kudjikova, and kudos to Kuchikiva, like, way 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: to go. She's had a rough year. But we'll get 36 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: into that after this. But you know, to that match, 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: I know she wasn't feeling that great last week, like physically, 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: like I think she had a cold and then to 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: get on a plane immediately after that match and fly, 40 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, a long way from Europe to California to 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: play outside. So this is it. I know, it's those days. 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: She's had four days, three days to adjust, but three 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: days is not a lot, and especially if you're not 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: one hundred percent and you know you've played a lot 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: of tennis, So this is not going to be an 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: easy match. Obviously, by the time we put this part out, well, 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: no the victor of this match, but I wouldn't be 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: surprised if she looked if IgA does not win this match, 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: even though jange Is is a lucky loser she lost 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 3: in the qualies. But that just shows you the depth 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: of women's tennis that you know, this is not a given. 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: You know, if the number one player in the dominant, 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: number one player in the world is playing a lucky loser, 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: you'd be like, this is easy. But I was like, oh, 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: this is not going to be easy. So that just 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: shows you the depth that not only does the San 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: Diego Tournament have, but women's tennis in general. 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: For sure, this leat season swing is super super super 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: were exciting. You know, I was eagerly waiting for this 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: match to come on all day because I really you 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: really were. 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 3: I was texted me this morning. I know, I'm desperate 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: to see this. I'm like, I'm watching the generally sixth. 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: Like the Insurrection Trials, the Nuremberg, the Nurremberg Trials. I 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: love watching tennis outside. I watched a lot of men's 66 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: tennis this morning in anticipation of this as I did 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: some work and was on some calls, and you know, 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: it's cool to see some of the indoor court color schemes. 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Giron, Spain in particular. They did a 70 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: good job. But like indoor tennis, you know, men's tennis 71 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: is in Florence right now, it's in Sweden. 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's. 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: Women are include indoors. But this this little swing here, 74 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: now we have San Diego, the first time San Diego's 75 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: had a WTA tournament in a long Finally, I. 76 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: Was literally one of my it was close to my place, 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: the favorite place to play. 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: Well. 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Also, San Diego is a hotbed of tennis. 80 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: Yes, south of Palestoria is a great great you know 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: fans there, yeah great, and they love the doubles there. 82 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: I always had such you know a lot of people 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: come and watch. 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the stands are packed right now as we 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: watch this. And then the tour is going to go 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: to Guadalajara for a one thousand, which is so cool, 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited that Guadalajara gets a really really 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: prominent tournament and it's going to be outside and I've 89 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: already heard some of the plans for what they're doing 90 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: in the tournament. You know there's going to be Mariachi's. 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: In fact, Patrick Kvito just showed up. Might you be 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: doing something down there? I wish I were. I would 93 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: be dying too, because I would love to throw a 94 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: Mucheres and Mezcal event. So get at me, sponsors, Let's 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: do a big racket. I'll tell you, shindig. 96 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: I told you I went to Guadalajara last year for 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: the WT finals. It's the first time I'd been to Mexico, 98 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, why. 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: You've only been to Mexico one time ever? 100 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: Come here. 101 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: Mexico's the best. 102 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: I know it's the best, and don't worry. I'll be 103 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 3: trying to get back there. 104 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying to do tough in the next year, 105 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: twenty things in Mexican. I'm trying to do an event 106 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: in Monterey. I'm trying to go to I'm trying to 107 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: go to Mexico City and convince them to have a 108 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: bigger thing like I'm My parents used to live in 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: Mexico City, Mexico. My Mexican is great. As a matter 110 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: of fact, I was speaking Spanish yesterday ordering some breakfast tacos, 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: and the guy next to me was like. 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Where did you learn Spanish? 113 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Because I have it, I said in Spain. So I 114 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: have a Spanish accent a little bit, which is the 115 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: most assholy thing. If you know me, you know, of 116 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: course I do, because I'm like, I'm impossibly. 117 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: Difficult in this way. 118 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: But I also speak Mexican slang because my parents use it, 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: so like ola is like a word that you would 120 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: say in like Mexican slangs. 121 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: It's called chilongo. Like specifically, God, here's me. I'm just 122 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: a dummy. 123 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: No you're not, You're just. 124 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: Just I've just got my Aussie accent, which is kind 125 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: of cool. 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a foreign language of its own. Believe me, 127 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: nobody can understand what the fuck you're talking about, especially 128 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: when you use all of your Australian athletes. I agree, 129 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: although you know, sometimes other Australians confirm that in fact, 130 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: you guys do stay stuff like that, so I but 131 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: I do have to fact check it. But anyway, I 132 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: love the fact that tennis is big in Mexico. Watching 133 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Garbinia win Guadalajara with all those stiff stands full of 134 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: people in Mariachi, it was it's like bring tennis to 135 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: places that are pumped to get it. It's that are 136 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: going to localize the experience for the fans. And by 137 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: the way, it does it hurt that they have an 138 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: incredible tradition of art, music, culture, food, and you know, 139 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: it was vibes. 140 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: I was. I can't believe I've never been. 141 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Mexico is the ship I was so I was. 142 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 3: So happy to and the people are so freaking nice. 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: Now, Mexicans, they're just the best, the best. Yes, I agree, 144 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: So I'm pumped for this little swing. And then obviously 145 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: we're going to go into Fort Worth where the w 146 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: t A Tour Finals is being held a new location. 147 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Obviously somebody like EGA is coming across to do that. 148 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Our friend, as you noted in Alumni of the Pod, Jessica, 149 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago, for the first. 150 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: Time, for the very first time, she's qualifying for the 151 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: WTA Finals and singles, which is an incredible effort. And 152 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: for those who don't know, it's an accumulation of points 153 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: throughout the entire year and she has already qualified and 154 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: sometimes it comes down literally to the last week of 155 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: the year for the last couple of spots so the 156 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: fact that she's already solidified it this early is fantastic 157 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: for her. So Jess, well done. Hastulations, What does it mean. 158 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: We've got a few alarm that are in. Yeah, Jazz, 159 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm planning on getting eager, you know, once she stops 160 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: winning one hundred matches every year. 161 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: But she has grief had Sabalanca Sabalanka Sabalanka definitely. 162 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'd have to look it up. 163 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: She's she was one of my favorite part guests, mainly 164 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: because she's crazy like a fox. 165 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: I mean, she's she's great. 166 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I really love Sabalanka and I'm happy to apparently she 167 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: has a secret Instagram that she announced on her main instagram. 168 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: So how secret could it be? I'm not sure. 169 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: Coca GoF we need Coco Coco. Caroline Garcia what an 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: effort to get into the She's close to me. 171 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Caroline has had a great year. 172 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: Sabalinka is seven, but you know the Sabalanka Halup is eighth, 173 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: and I don't think she's going to keep She's done 174 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: for the year, I believe. 175 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit, just because obviously 176 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: you were at the tour finals last year, you were 177 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: at the Tour Finals a couple of years ago in Singapore. 178 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: You've coached players who've made it. Obviously, it's a ton 179 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: of money. And if it's in a place like Singapore, 180 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: which I love, or Guadalajara where there's a big, cool 181 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: vibe going on, that is a bonus. But what does 182 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: it mean in terms of you know, obviously you might 183 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: want to win a slam before you would qualify for Oh, 184 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: it's not the tour finals, but it's it's it's definitely 185 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: is it rate in terms of No, it's definitely up there. 186 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: It's uh, you know, I mean I valued it a lot. Yeah, 187 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: you know when when Lisa and I want it, it 188 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: was fantastic. 189 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, does it feel special like it's a special 190 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: invitation only like your VIP? Like does it No, No, 191 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: it's hurtain like you did the thing. 192 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: It's very special. You walk around there being like, yeah, 193 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: we're pretty cool. We made it, like all of us, 194 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: like we've had a great year. No, everyone's pretty pretty 195 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: everyone's excited to get there. Trust me, what I tell you. 196 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 3: The amount of choking that happens in the last couple 197 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: of weeks of the year, of the regular season, of 198 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: the regular season to get into. This is like monumental. 199 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, probably the most well probably the most nervous 200 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: I've ever been as an older player, especially was making 201 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: my last one. And I made thirteen crime and the 202 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: last one I made was with Lisa Raymond, and it 203 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: was kind of like it was a bit of a 204 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, full circle moment to play again with Lisa, 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: which we'd made like I think we made it every 206 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: year that we played together, like six or seven years, 207 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: and then we started playing again so to make our 208 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: last one, and I remember we had to win one 209 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: more match, just one match to make it into the Championships. 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: And we were in China and it was like nine 211 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: it was like eight all in the match tiebreak or 212 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: eight seven in the match tiebreak up, and I double 213 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: folded twice in and I have when I tell you, 214 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: I never double folded like that. I had a pretty 215 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: solid serve two six back to back. I looked at 216 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: Lisa after we lost a match, I stop, like, okay, 217 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: what am I doing. We ended up getting in in 218 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: the end, but I was so nervous because I wanted 219 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: to get in so bad. I mean, Carolina Plish go over, 220 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: like a number of years ago, was up against like Sloan. 221 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: It was like a Sloan Stevens, Carolina Burton's and married 222 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: to Malfi's. Oh my god, Elena Switzelena, Like the four 223 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: of them were going for the last like two or 224 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: three spots and they just kept losing. They all went 225 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: to Moscow, they all lost first round. It was like, 226 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: oh my god. And then Hallette pulled out of the 227 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: tournament and they all got in. None of them even 228 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: had to go to Moscow. But it is such a 229 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: stressful time. 230 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: In the year this year, so it's really meaningful. 231 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, it's very meaningful to make this tournament. 232 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the Asia swing. Obviously 233 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: there's not happening anymore, neither tour or going to Asia 234 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: this fall, mainly on the men's side. They have not 235 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: take in political stand as have the women. But COVID 236 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: restrictions mean there's no way that you're saying, where do 237 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: I think it's going to go in the future. No, 238 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying talk a little bit about how, first of all, 239 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: the season is too long. It just is it is, 240 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: And what is the psychology of a lot of players 241 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: not going to China. It's got to be better to 242 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: be having them. I mean, I am all for tennis 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: flexing in all different parts of the world. Like, I 244 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: think that's a really cool thing. I think the fact 245 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: that the tennis has been in Tokyo and in Seoul, 246 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously it's going to Mexico. Like, I 247 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: think this is a great thing, and I think there 248 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: should be a thoughtful distribution of tournaments and events to 249 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: make the global nature of it, you know, really emphasize. 250 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I think that's cool. But I also think there's something 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: to the fact that in China anyway, Sure, the time 252 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: zone seems like it was very difficult, the time of 253 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: year seems like it was very difficult because everyone seemed 254 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: pretty burned out. But also like you couldn't get around 255 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that, at least on the WTA, 256 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: the fact that these tournaments were putting up tremendous sums 257 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: of money, but not tremendous amounts of people to be fans. 258 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sorry, but like it's you know, 259 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: Chinese and you know this, Caitlin better than I do. 260 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: They don't have money to be paying for that sort 261 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 3: of stuff. The people are either working, the ones that 262 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: have the money are not really going to the tennis. 263 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. There's plenty of money, 264 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: but there's plenty of traditional seeing tennis. I mean basically, 265 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: the amount of people who became new drivers and owners 266 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: of Audi's in the short span of time that I 267 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: live there would indicate that it's not an economic viability issue. 268 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: It's a cultural tradition. 269 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: They're getting so much money from different companies there, and 270 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: then they want the tennis there because it gives them credibility. 271 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: So what is going to happen in the future there, 272 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: I doubt. I don't know. I don't know if the 273 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: WTA will ever go back there. I mean, has anyone 274 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: found Pung Shwi. 275 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: No, it's definitely getting re educated in a way that's 276 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: pretty horrific and terrible. 277 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: So, I mean we have talked about that for how long? No, 278 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, pretty crazy that we haven't talked 279 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: about it at all. 280 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the IOC really has a 281 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: lot to answer for by giving China basically a pass 282 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: and being like, well, they said they found her. 283 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we'll never ever ever take an Olympics back 284 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: there for a long time, because that first of all, 285 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: they've had way too many in the last like ten years. 286 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: I feel like every fucking Olympics is in the is 287 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: in China. That's it's been over indexed. Yes, sure it's 288 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: that and Russia. They can both go walk into traffic. 289 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: Because you'd like to sell a little something that we 290 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: I want to get out to is that we had 291 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: a bit of a disappointing situation happen a little over 292 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: a week ago and a couple of weeks ago in 293 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Tokyo against Naomisaka Dasha Gavrilova, friend of the pod Torah ACL. Dasha, 294 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: we are thinking about you. We are thinking of you. 295 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: You've been through hell over the last five years, and 296 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: not only just the last five years. Like she taught 297 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: her ACL at the start of her career and then 298 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 3: she's torn now the other ACL. She had surgery on 299 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: her foot a couple of times. She's been through but 300 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 3: she's lost like legit, legit easily four years out of 301 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: her career at her peak, and you know, she went 302 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 3: from like outside the thousands to come back this year 303 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: with a protected ranking and now is now inside the 304 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: top fifty. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable what she's made 305 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: an incredible effort to. 306 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,119 Speaker 1: Get back to the level. You guys had a fantastic 307 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: chat and a lot of that chat was about you know, 308 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: mentality and staying positive and working through injury. And she's 309 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: just such a joy to watch. She's so fun on 310 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: the phone. She's got such a good energy and you 311 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: can just tell that she's a classic yeah, I mean 312 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: shit out of her mouth. She's just super enjoyable to be, 313 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: you know, to be on a court watching and cheering for. 314 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: And then you know, you have to imagine that because 315 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: she's such a positive, sort of bubbly personality person Obviously 316 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: she got married in the last year. She's you know, 317 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: got the companionship of a dog. I don't particularly like dogs, 318 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: but some people do, you know, like good. 319 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: The only person that's happy about this, or the only 320 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: thing that's happy about this is Tofu, a toxin who 321 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: is going to be now having dash because you know 322 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: she was Tofa was pretty much a pandemic dog and 323 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: had dash it around all the time. And now all 324 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: of a sudden she's gone. She's like, what the buck, 325 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: you just abandoned me. But now she's back, and she's 326 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: going to be back for it's going to be a 327 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: solid year before she's back on tour, and that's just 328 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: I'm just so sorry for her. It's just terrible. 329 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: What do you think, in terms of all of the 330 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: players that you've seen throughout your career and playing and 331 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: broadcasting and coaching, who's had the worst luck. 332 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 3: Oh, this is going to be She's got to be 333 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: up there. I think del Potro for injuries, definitely on 334 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 3: the guy's side. I think what happened to Dominic team 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: after he just started playing great tennis and having that 336 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: erist injury is really hard to come. 337 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Back, especially when you hit one hand. 338 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: It's just it's just it's just such a hard injury 339 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: I had myself, and it changes a lot of things 340 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: in your technique, and I think that that's terrible for Dominic. 341 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that's unbelievably unlucky. But yeah, I would have to. 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: I mean, shit, our buddy Andrea Peckri had a lot 343 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: of injuries throughout her career career, but Dasher's got to 344 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: go down to me. Of the current players, it's the 345 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: most unlucky injury prone kid I've ever been around. I mean, 346 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: the amount of injuries she's gone through has just been unbelievable. Yeah, so, Dasher, 347 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: we love you. I know you like to listen to 348 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: the pod sometimes, so and you have not a lot 349 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: to do now, buddy, But but hang in. 350 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: There, keep making TikTok. 351 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: Hang in there. That's she's the best. She is the 352 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: best TikTok. 353 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Nomeo Sakon just because she. 354 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 3: Was the Where is Naomi Osaka? I'm playing this week? 355 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: She's not. I mean, you're worried, right, you think she's 356 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: I don't. 357 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't look good, it doesn't. She looks miserable. And 358 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: I think based on the stuff that she's been seeing 359 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: and tweeting, and you know, listen, nobody defended her more 360 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: vociferously than we did when she was, you know, sort 361 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: of in a conflict with the French Twans Federation, and uh, 362 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, I I stand by my critique of a 363 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: lot of the tennis apparatus as being dated and ossified 364 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: and not in step with, you know, sort of the 365 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: modernity of how to deal with talent. On the other hand, 366 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: it seems like she's kind of a shell of a 367 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: person and other than her many many many, many, many, 368 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: many sponsorship obligations that was a lot. I would not 369 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: be even turning up. 370 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: She's not a tennis player. 371 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: That's like tennis or is her friend Craig like to say, 372 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: if you want to be a tess player like tennis 373 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: like And there's a tournament in her backyard right now 374 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: in San Diego, and it wasn't even a question if 375 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: she was going to play it or not. It was 376 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: just assumed she wasn't going to. 377 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: That's crazy. I don't know what's happening. I don't know. 378 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean, she's got her dad now coaching her again, 379 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: and she's got no coaching and I don't even know 380 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: if I would take that on. 381 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: Like, that's a lot, Yeah, that's a lot. I think 382 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: in a lot of these cases, you really have to 383 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: think about, like, you know, you as a coach, you 384 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: have the experience working with a lot of different types 385 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: of people. But if the desire or the love isn't there, yeah, 386 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean I. 387 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: Do never worked with anyone that didn't want to get better. Yeah, 388 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: And they all got better because they want to get better. Yeah, 389 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: you know, and that has nothing to do with the coach, 390 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, the coach can help, There's no 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: question about it. You can lead them and steer them 392 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: in the right direction. You can say that things that 393 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: can help them sure get into that mindset, but in 394 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: the end, you're like taking a horse to they got 395 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: to wand it so so I don't know what's happening here, 396 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: which which is the interesting thing about this, you know 397 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: Jang Shun tech match that's going on right now, is 398 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 3: that you know, it's a set to eager and eager 399 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: just I mean, her name is perfect, right, She's an 400 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: eager she wants to play. She's you know, coming from Europe, 401 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: she's getting on a plane traveling for it's motivated to 402 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: be the best player. And she's young. And let's hope 403 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: she keeps that mindset because it's going to be it's 404 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: going to be a slog for the next couple of years. 405 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: I mean it's a lot, you know. 406 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: I mean they're making. 407 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: Ten to twenty million dollars. To keep motivating yourself like that, 408 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: it's not easy. That's why Serena and Roger and Rafa Novak, 409 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: you know, they've got so much respect from the tennis community. 410 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Andy too, and knows what it takes to 411 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: do what they're doing. 412 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: That's why they're so respected. 413 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: Exactly, and you know, I think the tennis world could 414 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: and should help them out by being thoughtful about the 415 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: amount of events, by being thoughtful about how much distance 416 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: there is between some of these events. You know, Ego 417 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: was very unhappy with the if or scheduling some of 418 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: the BJK Cup matches in Europe right after you know, 419 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: this swing in North America is happening. But I think, yeah, 420 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: that was terrible, and I think she was right to 421 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: critique it. But you know, everybody wants to get If 422 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: there was one thing I could immediately wave my magic 423 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: wand and change about tennis professional tennis anyway, it would 424 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: be the fact that there are seven governing bodies, each 425 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: of whom are good luck out in their own well. 426 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: I think it's just you would force some of them 427 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: to be subservient to others. And then, you know, I 428 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: hope more than ever that private equity comes in and 429 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: buys a whole chunk of these this tournament landscape and 430 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: governing buddies and makes them cooperate. 431 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: It's not a great time of the year to be 432 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: in southern California. I mean, they've had some pretty shitty 433 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: days of rain, and you know, some of like the heart. 434 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: So like being Scotland, you know, in the coastal parts 435 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: of San Diego, you get that sort of miss that 436 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: comes in. So the weather hasn't been great. And I 437 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 3: used to play there in July, so the weather was 438 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: just absolutely ideal and perfect. So ideally it would be 439 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: better to have this tournament in July. Yeah, and then 440 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: maybe have some indoor tournaments in the US. And that's 441 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: the way we used to do it. We had Philadelphia 442 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: and Chicago and that was such great tournaments. So and 443 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: of course we had the WTA finals at Madison's Madison 444 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: and I played my first ever championships were their finals 445 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: and I played that a couple of years. 446 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: So MSG needs to be the Yeah, needs to host that. 447 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: Majors. Yeah, we just got to get the sponsors. 448 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 449 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: Well, Bill gits aig. 450 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: Oh, let's talk about some of the power plays currently 451 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: happening in tennis. 452 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 3: We're hearing a lot of rumors. 453 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Nothing we can confirm about the Tennis Channel, but it 454 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: seems like things are in a major period of upeople 455 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: over there. Todd Martin is leaving the International Tennis Hall 456 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: of Fame to go join Ben Navarro, the new owner 457 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati This is the kind of inside baseballly stuff, 458 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: but it's the stuff that I'm watching to sort of 459 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: be like, huh, if there are signals being sent because 460 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: of the increased popularity of tennis, both recreationally and in 461 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: terms of viewership, sponsorship, ticket sales, attendance, all this stuff, 462 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: what a great time it might be to get some 463 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: group together, yeah, and get some consolidation happening in this 464 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: sport where instead of getting everyone battling against each other, 465 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: you had a few. You know, I don't like turning 466 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: on the tennis channel and hearing one voice doing a match. 467 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: It kills me. I so honestly would rather have nobody 468 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: calling it. 469 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: There's so much critique about the Tennis channel. 470 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's I mean, listen, it's a tough business, right, 471 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 3: and it costs a lot of money to have talent 472 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: called tennis matches and produce them and all of that 473 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: sort of stuff. So you know, look, I know how 474 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: hard hard it is to do that, and you too. 475 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: But they're having the one person do on tennis channel 476 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: like me, and they're putting people on there that are 477 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: not experienced at all in broadcasting, and so they're not 478 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: giving them a great player. They're sort of throwing them 479 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: to the wolves. 480 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's fantastic to watch a match with 481 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: no commentary. 482 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: I wish that was more of my actions. 483 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you accept if I'm doing. Of course, nobody. 484 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: Would argue thank you with that, but I do. 485 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: I watched Tunisia last week and you know, not a 486 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: lot of the matches, not every match had I think 487 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: that's great. I will dine turn tennis on for the commentary, right, 488 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: and so if you're mean tennis match will be really 489 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: thoughtful about being additive. And I think the Tennis Channel, yes, 490 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: it has a tough road to hoe, but I try 491 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: to listen to World feeds whenever possible. 492 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: Well then I come on, No, Weld feeds are horrendous 493 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 3: for sure. I just think for me, there is so 494 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: much room. 495 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: For improvement with with the product of this, and I 496 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: think I would say that as you know about everything. 497 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: I think it's the fashion. I think it's I think 498 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: it's the commentary. I think it's the events. I think 499 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: it's the design. I think the way that you know 500 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: San Diego got a great field, their merch is embarrassing 501 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: and there's not great brand equity in that space. Listen, 502 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: we'll do it for you next year. But like, there's 503 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: there's ways that this stuff can be so much better, 504 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: and I and I want it to be so that 505 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: I can you. 506 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: Know, we We've literally got the Tennis channel on right 507 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: now watching this Eager issue on tech Match, and she 508 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: just hit the most amazing sliding on the line. She 509 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: is so fun to watch because her sliding, her ability 510 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 3: to get around the court, and her mobility is really 511 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: fun to watch. This match so far has been pretty good. 512 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: So what are you saying. You're saying the future of 513 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: tennis is in whose hands? We just need to find 514 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: somebody who wants to be creative. 515 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: And if you get a lot of money and you've 516 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: got some big ambation. 517 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: It's something for you buy. 518 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I just think like so much of what 519 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: we look at in this sport is defined by what's 520 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: come before. And I just really want to emphasize when 521 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: you spend time outside of the world of tennis, maybe 522 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: it's in in my case media or in your case broadcast, 523 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: that's not just tennis related. It's looking at the world 524 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: in a bigger way. You spend a lot of time 525 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: in the art space. You see how fast and how 526 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: enthusiastically spaces are are modernizing and innovating. 527 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: And also I cannot believe how many people, for example, 528 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: in their art world, are absolute diehard tennis fans. I 529 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: absolutely love tennis fans. I mean, you know, like Jerry 530 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: Saltz sent me a book here it is right here, 531 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: sent me a book because he's become a friend of 532 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: mine and he loves tennis and he watches and I 533 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: go to ant Fizz. 534 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: And Jerry Saltz is a Pulitzer Prize winning art critic. Yes, 535 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: and there's so many ways in which our world of 536 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: tennis talks to and is in dialogue with these other worlds. 537 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: And I wish the tennis powers that be would have 538 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more of imagination about embracing it and 539 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: taking lessons out of it. 540 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: Right, bring the people into the sport more. 541 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: I just happened to meet a gentleman who owns that 542 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: one a couple of hours ago. I know, you've become 543 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: friendly with and just thinking about the innovations in the 544 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: way that the sport was broadcast, the fact that all 545 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden, allowing the cameras, cameras and the commentary 546 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: and the media and the storytelling and the documentary films 547 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: and the play. 548 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: Interesting to see how that goes right to share content Netflix. Yeah, 549 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: I mean, I. 550 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Hope that tennis is looking outside of its borders and 551 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: allowing a little bit more porousness based on the tennis 552 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: world's reaction to racket and finally sort of accepting us 553 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: as at least not going away. I'm encouraged that you can, 554 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: by being persistent, sort of convince people to that change 555 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: is not always scary. But I do wish it were 556 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: faster and a little bit more nimble, and that the 557 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: same old men who were in charge of everything, would 558 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: you know, make some room. 559 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're gonna find out. We're going to see 560 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 3: the end of this year. Obviously, Novak won the tournament 561 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, and after what happened to Wimbledon, he's, 562 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: you know, climbing Greg getting some more points. So I 563 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: think everybody that got screwed there in the point situation 564 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: that was rough on everyone. Look, the last couple of 565 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 3: years has been tough on a lot of people with 566 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: the pandemic, but tennis is healthy, very healthy. We added 567 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: five million people that want to play tennis. 568 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: In the USCA in a study added five million people, 569 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 5: many of them black and brown, in the US alone 570 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: during the pandemic alone. 571 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: That number dwarfs the total amount of people who play 572 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: other pretend. 573 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: Sports that are pickable. 574 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Well. I don't even like to use the name. It's 575 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: the NFT of sports. 576 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: What are we calling it? West minton? 577 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Worstminton? And that indicates to me that whatever. 578 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: I got a great text from Mary Trump saying what 579 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 3: last week or the week before? And she does listen 580 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: to a podcast, Mary, and she texted along something along 581 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: the lines of I just turned the tennis channel on 582 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: and they've got fucking pickball ball on. What the fuck? 583 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: Well they're getting paid, which I understand that, which indicates 584 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: the tennis channel might not be doing very well financially. 585 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: Tennis is not great about telling its own story, because 586 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: if it was, we would be hearing about how it's 587 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: outpacing the growth of all of the racket sports combined. 588 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: And that's the sport that I play, that's the sport 589 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: that we love, and that's the one that in some 590 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: ways is for sale. So anybody listening to this with 591 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: giant bags of money, who wants to grab up a 592 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that's undervalued and under optimized. Thank us 593 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: out for dinner, but beloved, take us out for dinner. 594 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: And that's it. That's it, all right, I'm not I'm 595 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: gonna go and cook some dinner for your family. 596 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make stick. 597 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. You know what I'm doing Right now, 598 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: I'm about to get dressed, undressed, just an fyie for everybody. 599 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: But I'm about to get changed, and I'm gonna go 600 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: meet my five of my oldest friends. Two of them 601 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: I've been known since I was five years of age, Rosemary, 602 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: and they're still racy with and we're still friends. And 603 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: they've flown all the way from Australia to New York 604 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 3: and we're gonna have Girls Week here in New York. 605 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna have loads of fun. So for everybody that 606 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: likes my Twitter feeds and my Instagram, shit, you might 607 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: not hear from me as much on Twitter because I'm 608 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: gonna be a little busy having. 609 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: Fun making out my new Australian freezers to spring on us. 610 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: All yeah, all right, until next. 611 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: Time, Until next time, everybody, extrall listing They and Caitlyn, 612 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: you didn't come to the block party last week in 613 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 6: Brooklyn and Bedstide. 614 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: But I just want to give. 615 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: A huge shout out to our DJ who does the 616 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: music at the start of our show, Stretch Armstrong, who 617 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: was just pumping out the absolute best hip hop, R and. 618 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 3: B rap from the nineties and it was just so 619 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: much fun and it was so great and stretched my 620 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: head of the last and you missed it, Kaitlyn, But 621 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: I'm sad. 622 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: I was cooking dinner. 623 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: I know, I know, so Stretch. It was awesome, much 624 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: fun and I'm definitely coming to the next one.