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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl drama, girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 2: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

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Speaker 2: shared for the right teams. Drama, Queens, girl Fashion, but

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Speaker 2: your tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drama, Queens Drama, Queens.

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Speaker 2: I loved this episode, you guys, I'm I am emotionally exhausted.

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Speaker 3: Now all these years later, you're still exhausted.

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Speaker 4: I feel every feeling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of crying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot of crying.

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Speaker 3: It's never trying this episode.

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Speaker 5: God, but yeah, every cell in my body still feels

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Speaker 5: all of it.

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Speaker 4: Pathetic.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this was big, Yeah, they really. There was just

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Speaker 2: so many untied things in the episode before and there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of untied things.

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Speaker 3: But it was nice.

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Speaker 2: How sometimes I've seen them, we've seen them do episodes

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Speaker 2: where it's like they're drawing something out and it's not.

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Speaker 2: They're not solving anything for us yet, but it still

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Speaker 2: feels really boring. This one they did a really nice

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Speaker 2: job on because every piece of it felt interesting.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's dealing with a different catastrophe.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this was such a good episode. Season five, episode eight,

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Speaker 6: Please please please let me get what I want. Give

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Speaker 6: him the synopsis, ladies, because it is gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: Gorgeous air date February nineteen, two thousand and eight. Peyton

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Speaker 2: admits her true feelings to Lucas, Brooke makes a play

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Speaker 2: for Owen, and Marvin tries to convince Milicent he's a

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Speaker 2: He's a better man than what she thinks he is.

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Speaker 2: So Haley wrestles with whether or not to reveal the

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Speaker 2: information that could ruin Lucas's relationship, and Nathan is put

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Speaker 2: in a position that could end his whole marriage. Oh

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Speaker 2: you think Yeah, And Lucas and Antoine face the coaching

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Speaker 2: prospect of playing their season opener at a disadvantage. Directed

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Speaker 2: by Paul Johanson, Written by the fabulous Mike Daniels who

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Speaker 2: ended up marrying Mikayla McManus who plays Lindsey.

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Speaker 6: Like such a happy, happy, gorgeous love story. By the way,

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Speaker 6: Mike and Mikayla got married. Brendan kersh Our basketball coach

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Speaker 6: who is also in this episode, and Lisa Goldstein, who

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Speaker 6: plays Alison got married. We had so much.

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Speaker 3: There was real love, yes, cross pollination.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous you know love that came out of

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Speaker 6: this season in particular, My good ness, what an episode.

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Speaker 5: I just hope that Mike and Michayla's real engagement was

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Speaker 5: better than this one, because s I mean, but and

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Speaker 5: to his credit, he took like a sucky thing and

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Speaker 5: like gave everybody really good words. And so by the

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Speaker 5: end of that journey of the engagement, it's like, oh God,

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Speaker 5: thank god these tour together, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like I was feeling like, oh, thank god, they work

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Speaker 5: this out until Peyton knocks on the door and I

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Speaker 5: have to snap back into reality and be.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh nuts, I forgot what side I was on. Yep,

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Speaker 4: I mean half.

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Speaker 5: I mean the first act was all like recap, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: were we saving money still?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably. But it's amazing that Mike.

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Speaker 2: It just shows it a great writer Mike is, because

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Speaker 2: it's amazing that he was able to take an episode

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Speaker 2: that was full of recap and kind of several of

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Speaker 2: the same type of scenes over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, especially for Peyton and Lucas.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, you guys were the same conversation but like six

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Speaker 3: He's this is.

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Speaker 2: Why people are bringing Mike Daniels into write and run

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Speaker 2: their shows, because he's brilliant.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, he's so so good, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I was doing a media to get my mind off

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Speaker 6: of how angry who hides a ring in a sock drawer?

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Speaker 6: Like you're like, oh, everything is so bad. This is bad, bad,

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Speaker 6: it does turn into a proposal that you're rooting for.

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Speaker 6: And I had a moment while we were watching it

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, because when she smiled, it was real, like.

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Speaker 5: When she's like crying, she's so happy. Yeah, he finally asks,

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Speaker 6: I literally wrote down the joy on her face. This

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Speaker 6: is played so well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked, and somehow I was I was trying

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Speaker 3: You're a kid.

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Speaker 2: You can be confused in your ex girlfriend who you

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Speaker 2: like my brain was running through all the justifications of

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about the Lucas stuff because we all were like,

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Speaker 5: oh God, wrong thing to say, because he does the

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Speaker 5: same thing to Lindsay that he does to Peyton. Remember

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Speaker 5: with Payton, he was like, you don't think I can

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Speaker 5: me because you didn't think I could do it, you know.

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Speaker 4: And then with Lindsay, he's like.

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Speaker 4: Like there is a nerve there and not saying it's.

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Speaker 5: A bad thing, but boyfriend has a soft spot and

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Speaker 5: don't hit it.

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Speaker 6: Well, he has such intense imposter syndrome. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 6: know so many artists do that. It has a name, right,

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Speaker 6: like impossible is a term, is a thing? Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: I've got to be this tortured artist. I've got to

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Speaker 3: To be a mess.

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Speaker 6: And and part of me goes, is that writers romanticizing

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Speaker 6: Lucas as a character to have this suffering tortured artist

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Speaker 6: has been dealing with this really terrible year. But like

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Speaker 6: this like aha moment of Oh does it track for sure?

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Speaker 5: I mean it's economic anxiety, absolutely tracks.

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Speaker 4: Would you grow up a poor kid? Man?

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Speaker 5: It? I get butt hurt about stuff like I hate fashion.

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Speaker 5: I hate fashion because my whole life I got made

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Speaker 5: understand Lucas Scott being the kid who came from less

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Speaker 5: being like don't you look at me? Like I'm not

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Speaker 5: as much as everybody else, Like don't pity me, you

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Speaker 5: know I am enough, and.

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Speaker 2: Knowing he's gonna want to provide for a family and

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Speaker 5: Well, I do like Lucas and Lindsay together. In a

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Speaker 5: world where Peyton Sawyer's back with Jake Jigelski, they would

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Speaker 6: They they really are good together.

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Speaker 5: Oh and Mikayla's just so fun. You know, she's a

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Speaker 5: Peyton knocks at the door, she's so happy, like she

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Speaker 5: can't wait to show paint that ring she holds it up.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, in my notes, which are all like the

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Speaker 6: you you coming to apologize, oh my god, for what

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Speaker 6: you did because he still loves you. And then her

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Speaker 3: I can't even look at you.

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Speaker 6: I'm so uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: Well, and Lucas looks like such a hangdog.

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Speaker 5: You know. If he was into what he was doing,

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Speaker 5: he would do like what Nathan does and give like

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Speaker 2: He's just being a little boy, my guy, not ready

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Speaker 5: Why didn't he just say it's the ring that Keith

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Speaker 5: gave to Karen, like a, it's a family heirloom. It's

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Speaker 5: not it's Keith's ring. Yeah, why didn't he say that?

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Speaker 5: Because he's complicated it's not hard?

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Speaker 6: Well why?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: There is also something about being twenty one.

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Speaker 4: And it's how to get married so bad.

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Speaker 6: It happens in the moment. Y'all are nodding, and I'm

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Speaker 6: nodding because we all did it. Yeah, it happens in

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Speaker 6: the moment, and you go, well, trains leaving the station,

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Speaker 6: I better get on it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You think you have so much time when you're young

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Speaker 2: that you're like things will magically work themselves out. It's

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Speaker 2: all gonna be fine.

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Speaker 6: You also do this thing where you go, oh, if

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Speaker 6: the scene from the movie is happening to me, it's happening,

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Speaker 6: so it must be meaningful. We assign, oh, if it's happening,

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Speaker 6: it's because it's supposed to rather, how do I feel

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Speaker 6: about this? What do I want?

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Speaker 5: Is this?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like you?

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Speaker 6: It's very easy at twenty one to go, well, here

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Speaker 6: and that's the thing that we certainly didn't unlearn. So

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Speaker 4: Hailey figured it out.

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Speaker 4: Place, is it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 6: It's why a car accident can happen and forty people

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Speaker 6: And that's what you need is for people who say

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Speaker 4: Wait are you calling Peyton danger because that sounds fun

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Speaker 2: I thought Haley, like I was hoping that she would

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Speaker 2: I'd probably be like, listen, I'm going to have to

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Speaker 2: I can't just like sit here, So you got to

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Speaker 2: to do that with a friend, Like if you don't

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Speaker 2: If you don't tell her, I'm going to no.

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Speaker 4: I mean no, But that's the move.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like if you were put in that position, that's

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Speaker 3: It has to be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, y'all listen.

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Speaker 5: I'm a huge vander Pump Rules fan, and so I

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Speaker 5: you don't watch the show, it means nothing to you.

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Speaker 5: But if you watch this terrible reality show, you're.

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Speaker 4: Like, dh San Deval's the devil.

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Speaker 5: Because he cheated on Arihanna And so I'm more worked

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Speaker 6: So what's wild? Is I don't watch it. But my

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Speaker 6: episode about this, and I was like, I'm watching your stuff,

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Speaker 6: And I have two friends, like two of my best friends,

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Speaker 6: who are obsessed with this ship. So all the Instagram

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Speaker 6: these people, more about the exposed timeline, more about the

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Speaker 4: Was at a funeral.

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Speaker 6: I know all this, and I have never seen one

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Speaker 6: she is great. I know so much about this, against

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad we could give that to you. Oh,

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Speaker 6: But now that I know, I'm invested, because here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: It always gets exposed, right, it always gets exposed down

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Speaker 5: the line. And what I learned from the Reunion special

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Speaker 5: and so don't hide shit for your friends. Don't be

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Speaker 5: an enabler. If something happens like once, like this Lucas

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Speaker 5: Peyton thing in the office, Yeah, I don't know if

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Speaker 5: I even consider that cheating. To be perfectly honest, that

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Speaker 6: Like you are a nicer person than I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm also the bitch kissing him, So that's true.

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Speaker 6: You're making an excuse for your character. I get that.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, let me tell you what, if my partner

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Speaker 4: We gotta fight.

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Speaker 6: One of you has to die, like it's Gladiator times.

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Speaker 6: Who pick.

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Speaker 5: I know, it's super it's super easy. When it's fiction,

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Speaker 4: We've watched him since they were little. They're just they're

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Speaker 6: But that's also remember we talked about that a while back.

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Speaker 6: Even if you have the characters you know in love

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Speaker 5: Who's worse in this week's episode Nathan, who's hiding some

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Speaker 5: from his wife. Oh boy, are Lucas and Peyton who

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Speaker 6: Y'all?

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Speaker 2: It's bad Nanny Carey being like, you have pain on

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Speaker 4: And we can see that it's not it's.

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Speaker 2: Not just it's so right outside of his son's bedroom,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's amazing to me, amazing, And I really

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Speaker 4: Did it make you mad to watch Joy?

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Speaker 5: Ye? Obviously, I'm still in my patent body, like in

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Speaker 4: You're like, I'm gonna murder them?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Made me mad, Like stand up for your family, damn it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Push her down the stairs. Sure, push her away.

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Speaker 3: And then put her in a taxi. Tell her to

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Speaker 2: But my god, like he was like waiting to tell

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Speaker 2: And then Haley says the one thing that gives him

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Speaker 5: I loved it when you guys were in bed and

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Speaker 5: You're like, I saw Lucas kiss Clayton and he said.

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Speaker 4: Oh, maybe it was just a friendly kid.

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Speaker 5: And so when when Nanny Caries like doing the fake paint,

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is just a friendly kid. Maybe.

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Speaker 6: But it's also interesting that in that scene with you guys,

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Speaker 6: we're just like, should be easy, say it, figure it out. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 6: I think that's a really interesting thing that, again, to

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Speaker 5: Well, I love Brooke Davis's emotional arc in this because

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Speaker 5: like Brooke shows up for everyone, and the one little

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Speaker 4: And it could go one of two ways.

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Speaker 5: It could be gross and like super alpha male, like

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Speaker 4: Did you like doing this arc with Joe? Oh?

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Speaker 6: I loved it, especially because you know, we were five

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Speaker 6: I actually felt a real parallel between what Brooke and

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00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 6: Owen were doing on screen and what Peyton did with Mollie,

444
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 6: saying like, oh yeah, you read a story and you

445
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 6: thought how romantic that he carried me out of the

446
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 6: school shooting. I was trying not to bleed to death.

447
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 6: The reality of a situation is not often how the

448
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 6: story gets told. And what I loved about what the

449
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 6: Brook and Owen storyline was is that Rooke Davis as

450
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 6: a character was like, oh yeah, if I'm always going

451
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 6: to be on display, I'm going to figure out how

452
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 6: to use it because I can't admit that it makes

453
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 6: me really uncomfortable. And it gave me this avenue to

454
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 6: figure out, like where my gratitude for our job was,

455
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 6: but also where the discomfort with this sort of like

456
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 6: always being expected to be on was and in the

457
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: stuff with Joe and I. Even though for me as

458
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 6: Sophia there was conflict and confusion, I never felt permission

459
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 6: to show that because the minute that you know you're

460
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 6: on a quote unquote hit TV show and you say like,

461
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 6: this is hard for me, people are like, sure, you

462
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 6: are grateful, you know, but it was hard for all

463
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 6: of us in a lot of ways. And I liked

464
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 6: that my character leaned in and then had someone else saying,

465
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 6: but that can't really be what makes you happy, right?

466
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 6: I was like, whoa, this is?

467
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 3: This is cool.

468
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: I love seeing Brook use all of her all of

469
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: her usual tricks and her cute flirtatious things in the

470
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 2: backseat thing, you know, it's like all she keeps every

471
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: time she comes toward him, it's with all these tricks

472
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: or every time he tries to come get to know her,

473
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: she busts them out and he's like, can we how

474
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: do we weed out all this stuff. I actually really

475
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: do want to get to know you. I think you're

476
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: really worthwhile, but I'm having trouble getting past all of

477
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: the things that you're throwing up to distract me from

478
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: who you really are.

479
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 6: And what I loved was that when he came to

480
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 6: the store, oh, I was basically like, oh, you have

481
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 6: a gimmick. I'm not gonna gimmick. And then she was like, oh,

482
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 6: baby boy, you haven't seen my gimmicks.

483
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 4: You want to see them.

484
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you all.

485
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: The gimmicks, and then when I break you, I'm gonna

486
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 6: say no, no, you said no gimmicks bye.

487
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: Like I loved.

488
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 6: I loved the energy of that.

489
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: But she didn't break him.

490
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: Oh yes she did.

491
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 5: No.

492
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: He was totally playing.

493
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: Her that like he was like, fine, yeah, you went okay,

494
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: I'll give you exactly what you want and you're gonna

495
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 2: be too too scared to actually go through with this.

496
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 6: Oh see, I didn't feel that.

497
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: I felt like that's so funny.

498
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 6: In having done it, it was.

499
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: It was very.

500
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 6: Very much like I remember the night in the night

501
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 6: in the car. It was like so visceral, especially because

502
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 6: he she like makes a wise crack about his car

503
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 6: and he gets all mad about it, which was.

504
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 4: He does get macho.

505
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, he gets so mad, and the and the irony

506
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 6: for me playing Brook, not that Owen would have known it,

507
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 6: but was like, my best friend drove this comment, like,

508
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 6: you guys basically drive the same car. I don't give

509
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 6: a shit about your car.

510
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: Owen and Peyton are a lot alike in a lot

511
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: of ways.

512
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 6: No, they really are, and it tracks for us. And

513
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 6: and I just loved that that there was this moment,

514
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 6: and I remember being in it that night and just

515
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 6: being you know, Joe and I talking about it and

516
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: him being like, it's kind of great that in every

517
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 6: way that he pokes her, She's just like okay.

518
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 7: Until until Brook loses her mind and she says, what

519
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 7: is the comment about the fugly giantes?

520
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, fugly giant test. Oh god.

521
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 5: I loved fugly giant testugly giant so much, so much

522
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 5: because that's Brooke Davis breaking breaking that. All right, fine,

523
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 5: just whoever this troll is. I loved that because then

524
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 5: she pulls it together. But then Stew's about it with Jamie,

525
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: which is so cute. Oh.

526
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: I loved that scene of you guys out there with

527
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: the chocolate ice cream.

528
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: It was so nice to see the town too.

529
00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that that scene for me with Jackson, like this

530
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 6: whole season truly was like our season of being the

531
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 6: best of friends, and like, you know, I babysat him

532
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 6: all the time, like he was just such a sweet kid.

533
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: It was like a really precious moment. And then you know,

534
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 6: of course, like everybody grows up, like you know, he

535
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 6: started playing like local sports with other kids. I became

536
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 6: less cool, but this is the year. But I was

537
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 6: like the cool big sister and we had the best time.

538
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 6: And probably one of the like top five sense memory

539
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: experiences that I have from the whole show is that

540
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 6: scene in that blue satin tank top and Jackson with

541
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 6: chocolate ice cream all over his face and little so

542
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 6: happy and like we just had the best time. And

543
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 6: I remember figuring out with him how that scene was

544
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 6: going to go, and like little tricks to be like, hey,

545
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 6: if you say it to me like this, remember that

546
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 6: Joe said it like this, and and this little boy

547
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: figuring out how to do like comedic callbacks, and yeah,

548
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 6: oh it was so it was so so great.

549
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: I love that What's under the Clothes Brooke Davis. I

550
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: can't decide how I'm so lucky Peel about that line.

551
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 3: I know that's how I felt.

552
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I don't know if I love that.

553
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: They made a five year old, six year old boy

554
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: say that.

555
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I love it, but it was funny.

556
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it is real life. I guess it's real life, but.

557
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 6: That he could see it like that. The whole point

558
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 6: Owen's point was what's under the persona of the fashion designer?

559
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: And then this boy saw it.

560
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: Yes, he saw Brooks reaction to it.

561
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was only really at the end of the

562
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 6: episode that you were like, Okay, she's gonna pull out

563
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 6: like this high school trick and then oh my god.

564
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 6: I mean it's like it's like a cold shower. She

565
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 6: gives Owen just like okaybye.

566
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: He was calling her bluff. I'm gonna go down. Swing

567
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: it on that.

568
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 7: I was disappointed. I really thought she was going down.

569
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 7: It was like, if everyone else is miserable.

570
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: At least we should get some little love.

571
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

572
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 7: She was such a good friend to Peyton, like she's

573
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 7: been helping everybody out. She baby sat all day, like

574
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 7: let the girl hook up with the cute bartender.

575
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: It'll happen delayed gratification, I will.

576
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 6: Say, because you just said, you know the way that

577
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 6: she shows up for Peyton. I that's one of those

578
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: other things that I have a visceral sense memory of

579
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 6: is that scene with us, and I remember getting into it.

580
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: I remember, you know, all the stuff we had to

581
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 6: do to set up the fireplace because like for our

582
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 6: friends at home, these weren't real houses. That wasn't a

583
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 6: real fireplace. It's like a you have a fire seat

584
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 6: on set.

585
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a long tube, a big like can of

586
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 5: gas and a guy with a big mustache, usually with

587
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: a cigarette dangling out of his mouth exactly.

588
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 6: And like, oh, that scene was so.

589
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: Special.

590
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: And I remember when we were shooting it, you know,

591
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 6: because the house was built on a sound stage, so

592
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 6: I was coming in from you know, outside, but there

593
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: was no outside, there was no there there and opening

594
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 6: that door and coming in and.

595
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: You were just.

596
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: You were like a raw nerve.

597
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 6: And it was beautiful and it made me I was

598
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 6: like instantly back there with you, and it made me

599
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 6: want to cry, like cause you just were so present

600
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 6: in this. I cannot believe I thought this was my

601
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: story and now I'm here and he's engaged to someone else,

602
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 6: and it was like, oh my god, it was so beautiful.

603
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 6: And then we burned the book.

604
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Come on, I'm all burn But Hillary, you cried like

605
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: six different ways in this episode. Somehow you managed to

606
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: pull out a new emotion every time.

607
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 5: You guys know, That's why I'm such a goober now,

608
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: is because I'm never gonna cry again. I loved that scene.

609
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 5: I loved it so much. I loved it when we

610
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 5: did it. I love it fifteen years later. I remember

611
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 5: it so so well, and I think it stands out

612
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: to me so much because I don't let people touch me.

613
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 5: I don't like people touching me, and I can do

614
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 5: it because I know how to be a people pleaser.

615
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: But people in my life don't touch me. And Brooke

616
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: and Peyton are so physically connected with one another. It's

617
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 5: a thing that I love because it makes it so singular,

618
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 5: like Peyton and I are the same that way.

619
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 4: The scene of Peyton at.

620
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 5: Her mother's grave all by yourself, or sitting on the

621
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 5: pool table by yourself, that's most like me. But when

622
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 5: you have that special thing where it's like, oh, there's

623
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 5: that one person that's allowed to touch you. My girlfriend's

624
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 5: share a game. Is that person here where I live,

625
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: where she doesn't care.

626
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: That I don't like to be touched. She pulls me

627
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: into her big bosom and she's like, get in here.

628
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: So it's I can feel Peyton's reluctance to connect.

629
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 4: With a lot of people that way, but that she's

630
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: just got that one mothering person. It's so important.

631
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 6: It's really interesting that you say that because the thing

632
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: that struck me and you know, we talked about it

633
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 6: a little bit in our podcast world at the end

634
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 6: of season four that in that finale episode, that house party,

635
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 6: we had a real like holy experience together you and

636
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 6: I and I remember how everything felt different going into

637
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 6: season five.

638
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it was locked and.

639
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 6: It was like, oh my god, the like the cellular

640
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 6: memory I have watching Brook and Peyton b roommates and

641
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 6: knowing how that felt for you and me because it

642
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 6: felt the closest to our initial like falling in love

643
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 6: with each other at level five like season one friendship again.

644
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 4: Well, essentially it's what we were redoing, you guys.

645
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: We got to come back after this five year gap

646
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 5: and redo what we had done season one behind the scenes,

647
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: like it's so meta and weird.

648
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 6: No, it's so weird, and like watching that moment and

649
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 6: we sit and we put the book in the fire

650
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 6: and like I wrap you up and you put your

651
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: head on my shoulder and I remember it and just

652
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: being like I'm gonna hug you and I'm with you.

653
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 6: You don't like to be touched, and I touch you

654
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 6: all the time. I don't care.

655
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

656
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 7: I think those people in your life are so important,

657
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 7: because if it was to me, I would just.

658
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: Be like, oh god, I don't know what to do

659
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 4: with my body, like I need someone else to initiate.

660
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 6: But there's something so special about that. And I even

661
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 6: think about like when we all did that, that that

662
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 6: prompt thing.

663
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: What was it at?

664
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 6: Where were we wash it? When we did our first

665
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 6: our first like big live thing together. Oh yeah, and

666
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 6: we just like stood and hugged like it. There really

667
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: is something about the people who've been in it with you.

668
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 6: You can wrap you up when you need it and

669
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 6: when you don't want it, when you actually need it,

670
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 6: like yeah, And I could feel all of that in

671
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 6: this episode, like I could see it.

672
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone reaching for each other.

673
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, like people needing to be together.

674
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 5: Joy. It makes me feel bad that your character is

675
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 5: like isolated in a way, like you're at odds with

676
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 5: everyone or you're just like too busy to hang out

677
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: with Brooke.

678
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: Was it not fun?

679
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 5: I don't want to be dismissive of like what you

680
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: were experiencing in that moment that we got to do

681
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 5: all this like feel good.

682
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: No, it's great. I love that for you guys.

683
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's an iconic thing about this show that

684
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 2: made people fall in love with it, and I mean

685
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: that friendship is reflected all over in Girls Everywhere.

686
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: It's beautiful.

687
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: I think they didn't quite know what to do with me,

688
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 2: and I think we've talked about that before, where it's like, Okay,

689
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: well now she's married, she has kid, she's a teacher,

690
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: she's basically like a mom, now, so what do we

691
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: do with her?

692
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: Did you ever.

693
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 6: Feel like some of that also came from the fact

694
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 6: that Nathan and Haley were always so popular that like

695
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 6: the fans were like more Nale, more Nally, more Nay,

696
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 6: and so in a way they kind of were like, well,

697
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 6: we just got to give them more. Where are this

698
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 6: and the rest of.

699
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Us, Yeah, they just wrote us into a corner. Well

700
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: kind of and like By the way, I love watching

701
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: Nathan and Haley. I love I love to the point

702
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: of what we talked about earlier, the way they're like

703
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: the missed connections in this whole Nanny Carey storyline. They're

704
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: so authentic, they're so important. But I do feel like,

705
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: in a.

706
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 6: Way, because Nathan and Haley got married really young, Haley

707
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 6: became so much like yeah, so much of the adult yeah,

708
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 6: and like while the rest of us were still kind

709
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 6: of doing dumb kids, you didn't get to do as

710
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 6: much of it because your character was the wife mom.

711
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 3: The mature one had to be mature. Yeah.

712
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: And after Nathan what he had been through with his accident,

713
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: and I think Hailey also, well, I don't think Nathan

714
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: and Haley spent much time just like b and bff

715
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: and getting to you know, it was always very romantic,

716
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: and then struggling through her tour and then struggling through

717
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: his basketball and the college, and there was just always

718
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: so many things that were coming at her, at them.

719
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe that's what this next season

720
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: is for what's coming up.

721
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 3: Not sure.

722
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 4: Y'all just need to lay in bed and watch vander

723
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 4: Pump Rules.

724
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 5: That's it.

725
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: That's it.

726
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: We just need to like, I want to see them

727
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 3: be buddies.

728
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 6: I do take a lesson from the Morgan household and

729
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 6: just watch reality.

730
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: I want to see them be easy.

731
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, me too so, but that's not gonna

732
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: happen a day soon.

733
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: And when they are easy in a way, Haley in particular,

734
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 6: because Nathan still got to kind of be one of

735
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 6: the boys and a brother and whatever. And there were

736
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: moments that the three of us got, especially at the

737
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: start of the season when Nathan and Haley were in

738
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 6: a rough patch. Yeah, girls got to be girls. But

739
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 6: it does feel a little bit like the right missed

740
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 6: the opportunity for Haley's continued girlhood, maybe because they were

741
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: just so many dudes that they were like, well, the

742
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: dudes are playing basketball, but like she's off being a mom.

743
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, what does what do moms do? What does my

744
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: mom do?

745
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: What do moms do?

746
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 6: Moms make sandwiches?

747
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Like what, it's so weird, you know, And that's what

748
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: they think, I guess.

749
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 6: But Haley got a lot of like where we got

750
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: to be roommates. Her Brook and Peyton got to have

751
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 6: this sort of second adolescence because Haley had a family,

752
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 6: she got the producing and then in the later seasons,

753
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: like you know, Hill, when you left, like Haley got

754
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 6: a sister, like Quinn came into the mix and right,

755
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 6: But Haley's world has really always revolved around family, and

756
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 6: I wonder if subconsciously that came from, you know, her

757
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 6: becoming the youngest wife and mom. I don't know, I've

758
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 6: never really thought about it this way before, but now

759
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: my brain is spinning.

760
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: I have any hear.

761
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 7: All the girls I know that had babies in high

762
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 7: school are like the spiciest most stonishes.

763
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 5: Like like, for sure Haley could have been spicy.

764
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 7: Man.

765
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot they could have done. It's not

766
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: like I was lacking in personality.

767
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: But I think I.

768
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: Also, you know, as we know, he liked to Our

769
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: boss liked to mirror what was going on in real life.

770
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: And I've certainly in a personal place in my life

771
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: where I felt isolated from everything and everyone, and so

772
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: maybe kind of subconsciously I was bringing that to work

773
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: as well, and maybe I was contributing to creating that

774
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: in some subconscious way.

775
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 6: I mean, who knows. But our boss was also deeply

776
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: reductive and only knew how to write women in certain ways,

777
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 6: like he wrote the character of Alice to be liked

778
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 6: this predatory boss and then oh, she's fired, and guess what,

779
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 6: Alice has slept with every single one of her employees,

780
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 6: every guy at work, any woman, Like, oh, come.

781
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: On the but dump bump of that was so flat.

782
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, man, yeah, yeah, she couldn't just

783
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: be like a like a boss lady.

784
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: She had to be a hole of course.

785
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 5: Ugh.

786
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: And it was Rick with the two pet and then

787
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: it was Mouth's friend who was bald, and then it

788
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 6: was Mouth also who was the nerdy guy, and then

789
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 6: it was also so and so like.

790
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: Oh and maybe for Millie standing up for herself, because

791
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: as much as I can't wait to see them find

792
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: their way, the fact that he comes to her and

793
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: not that she would even know this, but I'm sure

794
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: she could sense it. He comes to her on a rebound.

795
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I know he was thinking about her and

796
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: he was quitting and he but it was like to me,

797
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: it came across like he was reaching for her, as

798
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: like maybe something good will come of this choice that

799
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: I've made, Like, see, I made a good choice, will

800
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 2: you reward me for it? And it's like, no, I'm

801
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: not youre in reward for making the right choice. I

802
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: don't want to be the thing that makes you feel

803
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: better about they stuff that just happened.

804
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: I super didn't like that mouth went to Milly and said,

805
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: I'm not that kind of guy. I'm not that guy.

806
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: Hold on, I wrote it down. It maybe yeah, he

807
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: wrote I'm not that guy. But we saw what he

808
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 5: did with Shelley. We saw how like creepy he was

809
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 5: with Rachel half the time, like malth has been that guy.

810
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 5: And I had a conversation with my son driving to

811
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: school the other day.

812
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: I was just like, all right, you never tell people

813
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: what you are.

814
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 5: Don't say that you're a jock, don't say that you're

815
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 5: an artist, don't say what you are. Just do the thing.

816
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 5: Let other people decide what you are. Don't talk about it,

817
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: be about it and mouth. Anytime someone says I'm a

818
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: good guy, that is a red flag.

819
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime anyone has to say.

820
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: I'm the good guy, I'm yeah, I'm a good person.

821
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: I'm the good guy.

822
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 6: What I liked, though, is that she made a decision

823
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 6: about how she felt, and then he said, yeah, I'm

824
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 6: not living up to the person I think I am.

825
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 4: Well you have the opportunity to grow for sure.

826
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's.

827
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 6: It is that he he got to be a kid

828
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: who was like, well, I've been caught up in a

829
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: thing and I'm not proud of it. Let me be

830
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 6: the person someone might be proud of. And I loved

831
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 6: that when he realized he was being on a gross

832
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 6: saying no, no, I'm not this, I'm not this. Then

833
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 6: he said, you know what, let me give you a chance,

834
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 6: or let me ask you to give me a chance.

835
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 6: Let me show you who I am. And then suddenly

836
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 6: it felt like we got our friend back.

837
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: You know.

838
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 6: He was like, let me take you to see this

839
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 6: thing that's important to me. And then the big surprise is,

840
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 6: I can see any sporting event in the world. Here's

841
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 6: this ballet. Tell me about why you love this. I

842
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 6: was like, oh god, my Daniels, that is good writing good,

843
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 6: romantic good.

844
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 5: We're all products of our environment, you know, And when

845
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: you're a kid, you don't get to choose your environment.

846
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: But then you hit the stage that our characters are

847
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 5: at and you do get to pick your environment. And

848
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: Mouth had been in one that was toxic and making

849
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 5: him toxic and awful, and so he's choosing a new environment,

850
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 5: and Millie is just a an oasis.

851
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 6: Well, and by the way, Peyton does this the same thing,

852
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 6: however difficult it might be. At the end of the episode,

853
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 6: when she walks into that gym and says, I'm just

854
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 6: gonna pretend like I watched this girl who lives through us,

855
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 6: and you know what I'm gonna do is as hard

856
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 6: as it is for me. I'm gonna choose to be

857
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: a person who's happy for you.

858
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: And that speech is my favorite moment in the whole episode.

859
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: I loved us so beautifully done well.

860
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 6: It was gorgeous, like Hillary, this episode for you.

861
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: Was so good.

862
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I loved seeing this group of friends in

863
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 6: many ways, through what said and unsaid, through what Haley

864
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 6: says to Lucas and challenges him, the advice she gets

865
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 6: from Nathan, some of what she hides and some of

866
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 6: what she calls out, some of what you know Brooke

867
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 6: is asking for versus holding close to the best, what

868
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 6: Peyton is admitting and then trying to teach from like

869
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 6: everyone is really, really in it, and it all gets

870
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 6: encapsulated in that moment of I don't know what the

871
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 6: answer is, but what I'm gonna do is show up

872
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 6: for you and your happiness, even if it's hard for me.

873
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 6: Like everyone's just trying to figure out how to find

874
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 6: it and how to witness it for other people. And

875
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 6: I really did feel like Peyton, in a way for

876
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 6: all of our characters, became this guide post in this episode.

877
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 6: And maybe it's because you do so much voiceover and

878
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: you read from Lucas's book, but.

879
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: I don't know.

880
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 6: I felt like all of us, against those passages, were

881
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 6: just like trying to find it, and it really made

882
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 6: for this like cool arc that when you see that

883
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 6: moment in the gym, you go, like everybody's doing the

884
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 6: best they can and kind of failing by the way,

885
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 6: Like everybody's really in a precarious position, but we're trying,

886
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 6: and some people are succeeding, you know, better than others.

887
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 6: Mouth is doing something right by the end, and Haley

888
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 6: and Nathan are conflicted, and Peyton's crying, and Lucas is

889
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 6: engaged and Broke doesn't have sex with Owen but like

890
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 6: she's no that that.

891
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: Thing that Mike wrote.

892
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 5: It really resonated with me watching it all these years later,

893
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 5: because when we lived in Wilmington, like I was hanging

894
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 5: out with bands.

895
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 4: I was obsessed.

896
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 5: There's this book called The Secret Lives of the Muses,

897
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 5: and it was about all these women who had inspired

898
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 5: great men.

899
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: And at the time, there was no cooler thing I.

900
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 5: Can think of than like be in a muse, right,

901
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 5: Like that was just such like a sexy idea. And

902
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 5: now that I'm an old, gray haired woman and I

903
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 5: write books, I'm like that.

904
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: Why would I ever muse? Like that's crazy. You have

905
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 4: to be your own muse.

906
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 5: And my favorite poet and a Saint, Vincent Malay, would

907
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 5: do that. She would write love poetry about herself about

908
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 5: like if I were.

909
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: A man, this is what I'd say about me. I'm

910
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 4: fantastic boss.

911
00:47:59,080 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: I love that.

912
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 4: It's so sexy and cool.

913
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 5: And so I loved that monologue about you can write

914
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 5: about yourself. You don't have to live and hope that

915
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 5: someone else writes about you.

916
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

917
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: And it's the right thing Peyton does with Lucas too.

918
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: I think going in and saying I'll do it, I'll

919
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: let you go because I love you and I care

920
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 2: about you, and definately like letting you go on your way.

921
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: That releases her too, and that is self care that

922
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: is her loving herself and trusting that there's something better

923
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: coming along the way.

924
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 5: The only thing that's a little iffy, there's one iffy part.

925
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 5: So like that leaf falls in the cemetery scene and

926
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: like lands on Keith Scott's grave, and you know it's

927
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 5: a sign from her mom like be like Keith.

928
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 4: Right, we should all be more like Keith. But in Peyton, like.

929
00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: Bringing that up to Lucas, it feels Scooch manipulative and

930
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 5: being like, hey, I'm the Keith to your Karen, so

931
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 5: you just do what you gotta do.

932
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: But I know you're gonna come back to me. I

933
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: don't know.

934
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's manipulative.

935
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: It's honest.

936
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 5: That's what she thinks. That's like how she sees it.

937
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: That's what she wants to be. It's a very like

938
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 5: good thing to try to live up to. But she

939
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 5: could have not said uncle Keith, which is definitely like

940
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: a trick, like she could have get that part to herself.

941
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a deep cut. It's true, but it's

942
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 6: a deep cut.

943
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she could have not said it.

944
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 4: You're right, you better come back to me before I die.

945
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 4: Oh god, that's terrible. I know it's terrible, but y'all,

946
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 4: kids are twenty one. Twenty two year.

947
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: Old kids are terrible, so we all have permission to

948
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 5: just be nightmare pass. I mean, now that I've pointed

949
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 5: it out, you can't undersee it. Now you're like, are

950
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 5: you ruined it?

951
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: Ma'am? Oh, okay you At the end though, on the

952
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: pool table, I loved that choice.

953
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 3: Was that you was that Paul?

954
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: Did you walk in to believe Paul set up?

955
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I just thought everybody would always have you

956
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: just at your desk drawing, and it was so cool

957
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 2: to see something different.

958
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: Not Paul.

959
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 5: What's great about Paul, We've said it a million times,

960
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: is that he already knew all the tricks, you know,

961
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 5: he knew all the easy blocking, all the easy and

962
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: so Paul was just always up for a curve ball.

963
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 4: And that set was so fun.

964
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 5: God, you guys, I loved when we would all be

965
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: on that set together.

966
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: It was just just yeah, a really easy, fun, sexy set.

967
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 4: You could go hide in a corner somewhere.

968
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great.

969
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: I loved it.

970
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

971
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 4: Well, why don't we have an office now with pool table?

972
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: Sounds good to me?

973
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 4: All right?

974
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 5: All right? The episode ended with Lucas saying, why don't

975
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 5: we get married right away? Oh?

976
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 6: Yes, that feels like a red flag to me.

977
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Lindsay's gonna call him on it, surely right.

978
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

979
00:50:59,239 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 3: She's really excited.

980
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: She's been wanting this for a while and she finally

981
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 2: got what she wanted. But she's so smart.

982
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. As I recall, he's gonna leave her

983
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: at the altar. Isn't that what happens? No, baby, she

984
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 3: leaves him, He leaves him, She leaves him at the altar? Yes,

985
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 3: or that she leaves.

986
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: Him, Oh my god. I mean, we don't want to

987
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 4: ruin it for anyone, but.

988
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can put in spoiler alert if you want.

989
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 5: If you don't know, it's been on television for like

990
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: decades at this point.

991
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: They don't know.

992
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: That's like, humphrevok our Nigmund Bergmann don't end up together.

993
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: Sorry, guys.

994
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, we clearly have not seen it, though we have

995
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 6: some memories. If they haven't seen it, I don't know

996
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 6: what else to say.

997
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 5: It's crazy how much I remember filming this season, like,

998
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: I remember every part.

999
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: I remember the wedding, We had fun, we were being

1000
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 4: in those pews fine.

1001
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 6: Us sitting in those pews was so fun, and the

1002
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 6: misdirects that come at the wedding were so fun. I

1003
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 6: will say you get some foreshadowing of that, like maybe

1004
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 6: this is my honorable mention. I don't know, but skills

1005
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 6: showing up to toast Luke on his engagement and being

1006
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 6: like who is it?

1007
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: Who is it?

1008
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 4: Which one lindsay could be Brooke At this point.

1009
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 6: That comedy was so good strong.

1010
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 4: What else did we miss? What did we miss anything?

1011
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: That's Jamie calling Nanny Carey mom. I was just gonna

1012
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 3: say it, Jamie, I'm sorry to step on your No.

1013
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're just looking at the same part in our notes,

1014
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 6: which feels sparkly because that was so mama. Uh, I

1015
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 6: mean Nanny Carey. That was a knife in my gut.

1016
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 6: I can't know you felt, because I didn't even play

1017
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 6: his mom and I was upset about it.

1018
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: My first reaction was, that's not realistic. No kid's gonna

1019
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: mistake than nanny for his mother. But I have to say,

1020
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: especially when Maria was younger, you know, because her and

1021
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't live together, so she if she's been with

1022
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: him for like three weeks at a time, which that's

1023
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: sometimes the schedule is like that when she comes back,

1024
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: you know, within the same day, we'll be I'll pick

1025
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: her up in the airport, or even the day the

1026
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: next day and she'll say she'll have something. She'd be like, oh, Papa,

1027
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean mom, you know, because she's just been so

1028
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: used to having it come out of her mouth all

1029
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: the time.

1030
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's totally realistic.

1031
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and it's not malicious, it's you know, it's

1032
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 5: just you're the person helping me. That is what I'm

1033
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 5: used to saying when I'm asking for help.

1034
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, And what I loved is that, Yeah, that's an

1035
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 6: innocent mix up on the part of a little boy.

1036
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 6: And then that she is the adult takes it so

1037
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 6: far as to say, sometimes I pretend you're my kid

1038
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 6: as this like little bonding aside. While by the way,

1039
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 6: genius point that Ike wrote for Carrie to come into

1040
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 6: Close Over bros And Shop with Millicent being like, yeah,

1041
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 6: what was that like? And I need to and she's like, oh, yeah,

1042
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 6: you want to go on a date like this top

1043
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and it's full single white female.

1044
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 4: It's so it is so so so.

1045
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 3: Watch that movie again, oh right.

1046
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 6: Because in a way to see Carrie in the background

1047
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 6: of a scene that's about to begin, you just go like,

1048
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: oh my god, she's everywhere.

1049
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: And then she's in the.

1050
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 6: Closeover bros top and Haley calls and says, You're like, well,

1051
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 6: do I need to come home for dinner? And she's like, no,

1052
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 6: they're not here. And then the upstairs Oh my god. Yeah,

1053
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 6: every single scene gave me the creeps in the best way.

1054
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, which she turns out boys, dinner, Dinner's ready.

1055
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh the way it's on one.

1056
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 6: Oh boy.

1057
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 4: We told you not to hire the hot nanny.

1058
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,919
Speaker 3: We everybody was right, you were all right?

1059
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 6: Sure did all right?

1060
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 4: Do we have any fan questions?

1061
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 5: We do?

1062
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: I just saw one Carla. She's asking where did y'all

1063
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: film the outdoor scenes at the high school? And she's

1064
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: assuming any inside school scenes were on a set, which

1065
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: is correct. Yeah, the outdoor scenes were at It was

1066
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: UNCW Community College.

1067
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: Came Fair Community College. Wait, wasn't it UNCW?

1068
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Where do we go?

1069
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 3: UNCW? Was it basketball games there?

1070
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 4: Basketball games were Laney, Yeah.

1071
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 3: Burgaw.

1072
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 4: U n CW. We did some like big like Ernest

1073
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: Widella and I did some like military stuff there.

1074
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 5: Oh. Look, we definitely shot stuff there outside to use

1075
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 5: that campus, but we were downtown at Cape Fear Community College.

1076
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: I remember the campus.

1077
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1078
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 6: Cape Fear Downtown was like our biggest because that's where

1079
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 6: the quad was.

1080
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: M hm, that's where we were Cape Fear Community College.

1081
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: Any bogie that just like happened to walk through a shot, thankfully,

1082
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 5: would just look like an extra. Like it really was

1083
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 5: the perfect set for us because we would have more

1084
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 5: extras just because people were walking to class.

1085
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: Did people design waivers if they were walking.

1086
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 6: Through because they put up those big signs. Oh yeah,

1087
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 6: I could say, if you walk through this area, you

1088
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 6: consent to being on film. Yeah, which feels a little shady,

1089
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 6: but it's how they would do it.

1090
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: I loved those days.

1091
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: It's been a wheel, I think so.

1092
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: Yeahs, this was a good episode. It was a really

1093
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 4: good episode. You guys, Okay, I hope.

1094
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 6: I've made any sense on this podcast post show.

1095
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: It's like one o'clock in the morning for you, it is,

1096
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: but it's great.

1097
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 5: I love it.

1098
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 4: This is great. Guys.

1099
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 6: Who's most likely to wait hours in the queue for

1100
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift tickets?

1101
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: What is in the queue? What does that mean?

1102
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: In line? Standing in line?

1103
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: Like Brooke Davis is not gonna wait never.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think. Maybe Millie would, but she also

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00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: seems a little too practical for that.

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Speaker 6: I think Brook Davis would be the one who denied

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Speaker 6: waiting hours.

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Speaker 4: But would you think or wouldn't she just send someone

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Speaker 4: else to wait for her?

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Speaker 6: M I don't know that she would trust someone else?

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Speaker 3: Is it skills?

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00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 4: Kills?

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Speaker 2: The skills who got notebooked? It's that skills. It's the

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00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: skills in love.

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Speaker 5: I mean, his favorite singer in real life is Phil Collins,

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Speaker 5: and one revolves Phil.

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00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 4: He loves just like a power ballad man.

1119
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so hey, maybe he's our boy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, he would do it. Wait did anybody in

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00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 5: our group go see the Taylor Swift? No?

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Speaker 6: I was deeply actively trying, and then I had to

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Speaker 6: move to London, so no, I had to give up

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Speaker 6: some tickets. I'm still upset about it.

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Speaker 5: Dude, Jeff and I just saw Sisters of Mercy, which

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00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 5: is a very different kind of performance.

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Speaker 4: If you're into like.

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Speaker 5: Goth metal from the late eighties early nineties, it is

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00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 5: the antithesis of Sweet Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Barbara. Oh, Barbara would do it with her girls in

1131
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: real life. Yeah, that's the right answer. She would. She

1132
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 4: would stand out there all day to make sure her

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00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 4: and those girls got in.

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Yep, and she'd make friends with everybody in line, and

1135
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: she would probably buy food for everyone.

1136
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: She would have snags.

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Speaker 6: They'd be like doing TikTok dances to Taylor Swift song.

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: She would teach the whole crowd.

1139
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 4: Yes, that is the perfect answer.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks everybody. I love it.

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Speaker 4: What's next week?

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Speaker 6: Season five, episode nine for tonight You're only here to know?

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Speaker 3: Hmm oh boy, summer run buckle up? All right, bye, Hey,

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Speaker 3: thanks for listening.

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