WEBVTT - Best Of - Nightmare: Mahomes HURT & Chiefs ELIMINATED, what's wrong with Lamar Jackson? Jaguars-Broncos MONSTER matchup

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this

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<v Speaker 1>week on the show. Enjoy. Chiefs Lose, Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the weirdest, saddest reasons that I've had to

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<v Speaker 2>do for this show. It was very strange, Chiefs eliminated

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<v Speaker 2>from the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers, Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>mahomes with the torn ACL and LCL They're done. Yesterdayson

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<v Speaker 2>you said that this was the end of a chapter,

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<v Speaker 2>or in the vie chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll get into that part in a second. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say this, this is pro football, and

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<v Speaker 1>this Yes, this is my hometown team, and yes I

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<v Speaker 1>have a personal relationship for with Patrick, and so Andy's

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<v Speaker 1>the face of the league and one of the defining

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<v Speaker 1>players in league history. All of those things make this

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<v Speaker 1>extra gutting in the short term, and we'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>it means in the long term. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to overstate the how do I put this, because the

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<v Speaker 1>devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy

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<v Speaker 1>that folks should have for me, or for Chiefs fans

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Right now, I think that's overstated because this

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<v Speaker 1>is pro football, and this happens. And it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Chief's turn to have the year from hell, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was sadly Patrick's turned to roll craps and he was

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<v Speaker 1>through a knee injury the last few weeks. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on the injury report the last few weeks. You saw

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<v Speaker 1>him laboring. We said after Week one, man, he sure

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<v Speaker 1>ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a tax to all of it. There just is.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is a cost to the twenty game seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a cost to the offensive line injuries. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a

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<v Speaker 1>game when his knee was obviously bothering him. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a cost to the Chiefs being in must win, gotta

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<v Speaker 1>have it elimination games this early in the season. You

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<v Speaker 1>extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and this happens. This is not I am sick for Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and

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<v Speaker 1>their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week

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<v Speaker 1>of a season. The Colts and their fans watched Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning miss a whole year with a neck injury. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and their fans watched Pete Aaron Rodgers knocked out

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<v Speaker 1>for half a season with a snapped collar bone, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens twice have had Lamar late in a year,

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<v Speaker 1>get hurt and never come back. The Bengals and Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow have had multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is pro sports and this sport in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I am trying to balance how much it

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<v Speaker 1>sucks that Patrick is going through this, how much the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of We now have a line of demarcation in

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's career that's going to be before and after the

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<v Speaker 1>ACL and we're going to see how he recovers from it,

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<v Speaker 1>how he attacks it, how it changes for good or

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<v Speaker 1>for bad, the player that he is, and I and

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<v Speaker 1>I can recognize that and do me a favorite. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>don't put questions in the rundown near the top of it. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a production note. While we're doing it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good I lose my train of thought and I can

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<v Speaker 1>recognize all of that while also not feeling like woe

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<v Speaker 1>is me is appropriate. This has been as good of

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<v Speaker 1>a seven year run as any football fan base has

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<v Speaker 1>ever gotten seven years of conference championship games, five super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl appearances, three Super Bowl victories. That you can put

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<v Speaker 1>it up against anything any team has done in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the sport. This seven years matches any seven

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<v Speaker 1>years the Patriots had, any seven years the Niners in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties had, and the Steelers in the seventies is

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<v Speaker 1>a weird one because they won four super Bowls, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get to the conference championship game every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't get to five super Bowls. That that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tomato tomato thing. You can say that one was better,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's at least in the argument. And and now

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs received back into football general population, and then

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<v Speaker 1>see if they can emerge once again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate that I have talked about this comp so much

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<v Speaker 1>and now it is even more apropos But you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have heard me whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>career stuff, talk about in his eighth years a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom blew out his knee and then that team had

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<v Speaker 1>its only real lull. Obviously they missed the playoffs the

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<v Speaker 1>year Tom missed. They still want eleven games, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>which is shout out to how unbelievable, the seven Pats

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<v Speaker 1>and eight Pats or as a roster. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and nine Tom wasn't his best. They won

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<v Speaker 1>ten games and got annihilated in round one of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And in twenty ten Tom was exceptional. That team was

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen and two, and then they lost one of the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest playoff games ever Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in twenty eleven they started their run and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is I here is as far

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<v Speaker 1>as this not being what's the right way to put this?

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<v Speaker 1>In a weird way, I feel worse for Packer fans

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<v Speaker 1>with the Mica injury than for Chief fans with the

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes injury. In this regard, I was wrong about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have it this year. And so had they

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<v Speaker 1>been eleven and three in that game and or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess ten and three because that was right? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I have this right? I'm all scattered ten and three

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<v Speaker 1>going into that game and had looked great. It was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is another championship level team. I think this would

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<v Speaker 1>sting even more, but it was pretty clear it became

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<v Speaker 1>I came to terms with where this Chiefs team was

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury drive

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<v Speaker 1>of the first half up thirteen to three, letting the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers drive the length of the field the combo platter

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<v Speaker 1>of not being able to punch in the Herbert interception

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<v Speaker 1>and getting seven, and then later in the second quarter

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<v Speaker 1>allowing them to go the length of the field in

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<v Speaker 1>forty seconds to take what could have been a seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to three or at the very least thirteen to three,

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<v Speaker 1>or worst case scenario, thirteen to six lead into halftime

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<v Speaker 1>in a must win home game, letting the Chargers, whose

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<v Speaker 1>offense right now is not very good, go the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the field to make it thirteen to ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>then watching the Chiefs offense do nothing the entire second half.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have it, And so this was not the

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<v Speaker 1>chief Thiefs leaving a man left as a potential championship

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<v Speaker 1>on the table because the quarterback got hurt. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough this year, and I was wrong. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot of shit, poked at a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks as soon as they looked like the Chiefs. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a brief mirage in who this scene was

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and I do feel demonse that they are

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<v Speaker 1>about to have a mirror held up to some of

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<v Speaker 1>their structural issues that Patrick was holding together over these

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<v Speaker 1>last three weeks of the year. Because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to get beat up by the Denver Broncos. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll see Week eighteen Raiders Chiefs in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who shows up for that game. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think with these o line injuries, this lack of a

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<v Speaker 1>running game, and one of the bigger disappointments of this

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<v Speaker 1>season is the lack of development from the wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're going to see what this offense looks

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<v Speaker 1>like with bad quarterback play. Because I understand Mahomes numbers

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<v Speaker 1>after the bye the Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback play

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<v Speaker 1>would look like with the team right now with its issues,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think that there needs to be some

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<v Speaker 1>real soul searching is too strong, but some personal accountability

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<v Speaker 1>by everyone involved in the team, and hey, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we make sure the next time Patrick takes the field

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<v Speaker 1>this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses as it

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<v Speaker 1>had in twenty twenty five. And listen, it's hard. There

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<v Speaker 1>is a reason only one team ever's gone to four

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<v Speaker 1>straight Super Bowls. There's a reason only one team ever

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<v Speaker 1>has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a reason only three other teams ever had

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<v Speaker 1>gone to three straight Super Bowls. What the Chiefs accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>was certain things were unprecedented, and certain things were only

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had only been accomplished by one or two

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<v Speaker 1>of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some

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<v Speaker 1>of the where of the late draft picks, of guys

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<v Speaker 1>not developing, of some a draft miss here, a free

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<v Speaker 1>agency missed there, a poorly timed injury there. And they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't run the ball, and they couldn't rush the passer

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<v Speaker 1>all year long. And these receivers who I like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Rashid Rice has the ability to be excellent. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw him be exceptional for the second half of his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie season. I know the talent Xavier Worthy has. But

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<v Speaker 1>those guys not developing into fully formed, legitimate man beating

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers hurt this team a lot too. And so

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<v Speaker 1>those are the things that you address moving forward for

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs, and then you see what version of Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>we have when he comes back.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>The type of competitor and legendary athlete he is, that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a very good chance he comes back as

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<v Speaker 1>a better player as a player that if he especially

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<v Speaker 1>if he can't early on rely as much on his athleticism,

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<v Speaker 1>is even more precise in the pocket and traditional drop

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<v Speaker 1>back since then he's been the last couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm not worried about Patrick, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>put I understand it was a terrible injury and he

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<v Speaker 1>tore two ligaments. I would put all my money on

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<v Speaker 1>him being back for Week one next year. It's right

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<v Speaker 1>at nine months, and I think he'll do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>what will the team around him look like? Is the question?

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<v Speaker 1>Demonds knows some follow ups here before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were talking about making sure the roster was

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<v Speaker 2>good from homes whenever he comes back. If Brett Vich

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<v Speaker 2>hit you up today and asked what they should do

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<v Speaker 2>to retool the team, how would you go about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I listen, I think the biggest weakness right

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<v Speaker 1>now is not being able to get a pass rush

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<v Speaker 1>outside of Chris Jones, and they spent a first round

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<v Speaker 1>pick on a player a couple of years ago who

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<v Speaker 1>was put on the IR. This year, they spent a

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<v Speaker 1>second round pick on Omar Norman Lot, a d tackle

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<v Speaker 1>who was put on the IR early in the year.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not a good Karloff this year, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just paid him. So I think that that is the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that I would address, and the other one

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<v Speaker 1>is they need to have listen. Isaiah Pacheco was an

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievable story as a seventh round pick, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>very productive and then and again it's pro football man,

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<v Speaker 1>he broke his leg and has him been the same,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel sick for him. I hate the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he never really got paid. I and he's a

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<v Speaker 1>champion and you know, really helped the team before those injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>but he hasn't been the same since then. And they

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<v Speaker 1>can't run the ball effectively. So what they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have demons next year is a third place schedule

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<v Speaker 1>and something like the tenth, eleventh, twelfth pick of the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>which are two things that you never would have thought

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<v Speaker 1>they would have going into this year. And so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to take advantage of those things, and you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to prepare for life after Travis Kelcey. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like a lot of people are fully convinced

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<v Speaker 1>Travis's retire I am not fully convinced of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not only is it possible, you could say it's likely,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know that he has made up his mind.

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<v Speaker 2>And I because I don't want to, right, And so

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<v Speaker 2>now you don't always get to pick how you go out.

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<v Speaker 1>Travis's brother played in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous you know when they the first Eagle Chief

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. They lost that Super Bowl. He decided to

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<v Speaker 1>come back for one more year, and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>year of the Eagles supernatural funk and meltdown and quitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the playoff game. And that's how he went out.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the greatest sinners ever. Travis lost in the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, decided to come back. And now, like last

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<v Speaker 1>moments with Mahomes on the field are dark, that what

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<v Speaker 1>that was, and so I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he's going to do. He is still a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>Is he a dominant player anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he still one of the this year? Was he

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<v Speaker 1>one of the five best tight ends in football, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he still has football left in him. The

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<v Speaker 1>question is if he wants to keep doing go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think if it's a note that his brother

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<v Speaker 2>he sat out that year and then his team won

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl the next year, I think his brother's

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell him to stick in and stay with him. Maye,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys will get this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's right. Is the first year.

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<v Speaker 2>After Yeah, they won Super Bowl? Yeah, what's your predictions

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<v Speaker 2>for the next chapter?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I think that I think that as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you have the as long as you have Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>and Andy's not anywhere. And I understand there's been some

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<v Speaker 1>criticism of Andy. I don't think this was his best year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Andy will is one of the greatest coaches

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<v Speaker 1>in NFL history. And I do think that they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs offense post b enemy with Matt Nagy, hasn't

0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.960
<v Speaker 1>been as guys are not running as wide open as

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<v Speaker 1>they once were and things aren't quite as easy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they do need to address that. But I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid is going to be the coach of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs as long as he wants to be the coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chiefs and I'm good with that. And Spags

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<v Speaker 1>isn't going anywhere, and I believe Mahomes will come back

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<v Speaker 1>and still be Mahomes, and so I do think that

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they can snap back to top tier contender. They were

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<v Speaker 1>the favorites to win the super Bowl twenty nine days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the NFL man like.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit hacks crazy. I mean, ago, wait on.

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<v Speaker 1>The super Bowl twenty nine days but you know, you

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.440
<v Speaker 1>gotta win games, you gotta play better, you gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>lucky on the injury stuff, and so I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they will be the favorites in the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>West again the start of next year. I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we'll get to Denver and the Chargers

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<v Speaker 1>later in the show. I think that they will. If

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo does what it looks like Buffalo could do, they

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>might have someone to go chase, which you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's how it's supposed to be. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>not worried at all that the Chiefs are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to being the scariest team in football.

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<v Speaker 1>I am acknowledging that this year will across the board

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<v Speaker 1>is looked at as a failure, and then you double

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<v Speaker 1>that up with the pain of the injury to Patrick,

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<v Speaker 1>and you double that up with the Broncos in the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers having the years they've had, and it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna have a fight on their hands every year,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, so Lamar Jackson's missing practice I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>sick again. It's that time of year. The Patriots are

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<v Speaker 2>super relevant, Denver and Jacksonville are in the top teams

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<v Speaker 2>of the AFC. You tie that in with Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>and Cincinnati missing the playoffs. Is there a new class

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<v Speaker 2>of the AFC?

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<v Speaker 1>So I listen, I don't. I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>weird year. Yeah, and in a lot of different ways,

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>because it's not just the Chiefs, and we've talked of

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and every year there's big turnover, but there's not typically

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>this level of turnover year to year. Where the the

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 1>best teams in the NFL last year the teams and

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this a bit, the twelve plus win

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>teams last year, Detroit won fifteen. They're on the outside

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>looking in on the playoffs. Kansas City won fifteen, they're

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>eliminated from the playoffs. Minnesota one fourteen. They've been terrible.

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore won twelve, they're on the outside looking in on

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. The Commander's won twelve. They've had season from hell.

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<v Speaker 1>The two twelve plus win teams that have maintained some

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<v Speaker 1>level is Philly, which I think it's fair to say

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is not the caliber of team they were last year

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and Buffalo, which might be you know, Buffalo surging at

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year. So that part is uh.

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I have talked a lot about how this year reminds

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of eight sadly in that that the

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 1>Patriots coming off the undefeated season, Brady blows out his knee,

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>they missed the playoffs, Peyton manning the with the Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a wild card team because the Tennessee Titans, God,

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the Carrie was that Carrie Collins

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee Titans. They end up uh being the one seed

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>overall the and it feels like there's a lot of upheaval,

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<v Speaker 1>which then led to one of the weirdest Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 1>ever where the Steelers make it, which isn't that weird,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>but they were pretty clear going into the season third

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<v Speaker 1>choice if that in the AFC, behind the Patriots and

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the steel and the Colts, with really the Ravens being

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>right there in that conversation. And then in the NFC

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a nine win Arizona Cardinals team made it and that

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>was that Super Bowl. So I say that because then

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the next year things kind of went back to normal.

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>The Patriots won their division again, the Colts won fourteen

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>games and won their division again. The Steelers ended up

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>missing the playoffs. The in the NFC, it drew Brees

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Saints were dominant the so it was things

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>got back to normal to a degree. So this is

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>a weird year and there are now you do have

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>to take more seriously. The young gun quarterback led teams

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 1>in the AFC. But I don't think it's a full

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>blown changing of the guard. So that's first of all.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk about this game specifically. Come, I'm gonna

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 1>start with Lamar and I do not care if people

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>think I'm a hater. I just don't. This is gonna

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>sound that whatever. Gotta grow up. Man can't get sick

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>every year in misswork.

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Just can't.

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>What other quarterbacks demand? What other quarterbacks. Since we've been

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>doing the show, can you remember us talking about, oh,

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>critical playoff push time and he's sick again. I can't.

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's every years.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, yeah, I'm thinking something else is going on,

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but uh, but yeah, I mean.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Every year.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as it gets called out.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Every year, when it gets called out, if you're a

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>pro athlete, he just can't. It's every year. The guy

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is sick and we could you can't be like, ah, well,

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>what does it matter? He plays on Sunday, Like missing

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>practice this year has hurt him. He missed four weeks

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of practice with different injuries, or four weeks of in

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>four weeks in a row. He missed a practice he

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't was you know? Then last week he missed a

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>practice because of a rest day. Yesterday flew like symptoms.

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm sorry the but I know that this is

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 4>this is me being an old man, and I understand

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 4>I I I say this walking into it knowing that.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Ravens and Lamar fans are going to clip this and

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>see it and say, this guy, he's the only quarterback

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>in the league that would get criticized for getting sick.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, you know what, that's true because it's

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>every year the guy got COVID a dozen times and

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>then and since then, every year has the seasonal flu.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Can't have it. So that's like, I know I'm right.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it sounds bad. I know I'm right.

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's first of all. Second of all, I'm not

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>sure whether or not Lamar healthy or not is back.

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>This past week was such a weird game because he's

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>eight of twelve, but it's for one hundred and fifty yards.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>But he threw one pick, but that wasn't really his fault.

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>But he also took four sacks, and or sacks when

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you throw twelve passes, means sacked on the court of

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 1>your dropbacks, so that part's a little concerning. Also, Pittsburgh

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>winning all these games, these last couple of games has

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>really put the Ravens behind the eight ball. So none

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>of that makes me feel good about Baltimore, which leads

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>me to the Patriots. So go ahead and ask me

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots question. Because these two tie into each other.

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Should Patriots fans be concerned if they drop a second

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 2>game in a row.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, because Baltimore is not that good. That's the I

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>think that the Patriots were crushing these bad teams, and

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the one knock on them was you haven't played anybody,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, but we played the Bills and we

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>beat them, and then you're up twenty one zhering on

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the Bills and they walk you down and beat you.

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You then respond respond to that by Sunday Night Football

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>National TV. A Ravens team that has been shaky, you

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>lose that game. Then to me, I am putting you

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in the category of awesome season, something to build on,

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>not real contender. Does that you seem like you think?

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm yeah.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 2>I think the same thing with the Bill is how

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the Bills just came back and beat them just because

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I just think they're older guys. I think they're more experienced.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>The same thing with the Ravens. I think Patriot fans

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>should be disappointed if they lose to the Ravens.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Is a good squad.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>You've seen how Lamar Jackson can play, and if Lamar

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Jackson comes back and he's good in this game, I

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>think that it'd be pretty understandable.

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>But I guess here's the thing. Here's here's would be

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>my counter to that. You're right, there's no shame in

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>losing to Baltimore. It doesn't mean you're a bad team, right,

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But if in your two playoff dress rehearsals you play

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>playoff caliber teams and you lose them both, do I

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>then think you're going to win three straight playoff games

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to make the Super Bowl? I don't. It's the Patriots,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, fall to one in three on the year

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>against teams above five hundred, which is what it would be.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>That's well, because you were saying, like all the Ravens

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>are cheeks, Like you know, if you can't if you

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>lose to them, that's a bad.

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Listen, it's a bit of It's not that the race

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>and I won't call them that I was born in

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the eighties. It's not that I think the Ravens are terrible.

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It's that the Ravens we have seen over the course

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of the season, I think it's fair to say they're

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 1>not a great team, you know what I mean, Like,

0:33:54.720 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Ravens are a high upside team, but we just haven't

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>seen that upside and even last week. The defense was

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>awesome last week. Yeah, but they scored seventeen offensive points

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<v Speaker 1>against Cincinnati, Like, that's not a game that afterwards you're like, man,

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we are rolling. And so I'm very interested to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>This game will be featured in Knicks Picks in tomorrow's show. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what other follow up you got before we

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<v Speaker 1>move on?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you think that the Ravens are likely

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<v Speaker 2>to get a head coach a new head coach next

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<v Speaker 2>year for Lamar if they crap out this season, if.

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<v Speaker 1>They missed the playoffs. I think hardball's out right. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that you may have a new team doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, new team doctor as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe, or maybe have Lamar put a coat on.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, explain football outside. What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm talking about I don't. I have a theory

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<v Speaker 1>as to why Lamar gets sick so often, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sharing it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think he addresses appropriately for the weather. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I I have a theory, but I'm not the I'm

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<v Speaker 1>All right, demonse, Let's talk a sneaky huge game in

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, so my Jags have been humming. Offense is

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>looking great, defense holding up. Call them your Jazz, solid team, Jazz,

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you're your Jacks. They've been humming. But they got Denver

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 3>this week. Well, obviously has that excellent defense. How high

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<v Speaker 3>would your confidence be if Trevor came out of this

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<v Speaker 3>game and dealt with that defense with a win.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, here's the thing. It's not just that my confidence

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>would be high. They win this game. They are super alive.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Demanse to be the one seed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their next two colts Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just go ahead and ship them those wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Then all you need is for Denver to slip up

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<v Speaker 1>one once in the final two weeks. Now, that's gonna

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 1>be hard to do because Denver faces what's left of

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs on Christmas and then the Chargers in a

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 1>game the Chargers might not need. So in that regard that,

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>you know that it's unlikely that Denver falls, you know,

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>loses one of those two games, but it's possible. The

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>other thing for the Jags is this, and I do

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>think for Trevor in particular, that matters. If they win

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>this game, they have a great chance of not necessarily

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>getting the buye, but being the two seed. So why

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>does that matter? I don't think Trevor and this Jags offense,

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>which always sudden is super potent, wants to go to

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:12.359
<v Speaker 1>New England or I guess in theory Buffalo in round two,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>like they want it in Florida, like that is where

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>for this team. I think staying out of the cold

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>as long as possible is a real benefit. And Denver

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>it just came off it's best game of the year

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 1>and Denver is playing it's best football of the year.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about this enough. No one can say

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm running from it. I am staring in the face

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>potentially being as wrong about Denver as I've been about

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.760
<v Speaker 1>any team. Going from where I was on them going

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>into the year to the end of the year. You

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>can say, you know, it's kind of Denver and the

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Raiders right now are the Raiders though I was just

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>stone wrong on but and maybe the audience accres with

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 1>me on this, I don't know. I feel like a

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>team that everyone expects to be ad, that you think

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>can be good and then they end up being bad

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>is not as embarrassing a type of wrong as a

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 1>team that a lot of people think can be really

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>good everyone thinks will be kind of good, and you're like,

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna stink, and then that team ends up being awesome.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That's like the most embarrassing type of wrong. And that's

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>what I'm staring at with Denver. I uh, but if

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the Jags go to Denver and win that game, you

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>have to start opening up the possibility that don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why the Super Bowl, Yes, yeah, that don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>it took Trevor this long for it to click in

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>for him. But post Thanksgiving, he's got ten touchdowns, no picks,

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they're scoring thirty five a game. He's been awesome, and

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:06.359
<v Speaker 1>they Liam Cohen has just done an awesome job and

0:40:06.400 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>so and Trevor, by the way, was not playing very

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 1>well earlier in the year. They were winning earlier in

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the year despite him, and so this would be obviously

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 1>just a massive, massive win. Now the flip side is this,

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<v Speaker 1>they lose this game, Demonse, and it becomes on the

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>board that the Texans run him down for the division.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>So like that's the that's the other. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge we're talking about could the playoffs go through Jacksonville?

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Could they be the two seed. The flip side to

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 1>all of that is, if they lose this game, the

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Texans path to winning the division opens up quite a bit.

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>And so they did split, and it's a bad split

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<v Speaker 1>because the Jags beat them early and then when they

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>played again, that was the game the Jags were up

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty six nothing entering the fourth quarter against Davis Mills

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<v Speaker 1>and they lost that game.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know that is heavily of note.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh yeah, that's a huge spot. I mean, it's

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.520
<v Speaker 1>just an absolutely huge spot that because had they just

0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>held onto that game demans, then they would be playing

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>this weekend to be the one seed. Right, they would

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>be eleven and three. Denver is sitting at twelve and two,

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you beat Denver and get the tiebreaker and

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>basically lock up the one seed. So yeah, that loss

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>is brutal for them. But aside from that game, the

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Jags have been what they here's what they've done since

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that game. They beat the Chargers by twenty nine, a

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 1>pretty lucky, ugly overtime win against Arizona. Annihilated the Titans,

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:17.280
<v Speaker 1>annihilated the Colts, annihilated the Jets. Now, if you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at that, I mean, like that's a lot of bad teams, agreed.

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.720
<v Speaker 1>But early in the year, they beat Houston, they beat

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, they beat Kansas City. They have the best

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>if such a thing exists in the NFL. They have

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<v Speaker 1>the best losses this year. As far as who they played,

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>they lost to Cincinnati in Week two when Burrow was

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>still there. But I guess Browning, you know, Borough got

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>hurt in that game. They lost to Seattle, they lost

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to the Rams, they lost to the Texans, So they

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have they haven't lost to any offense team. Yeah, Sonatio,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 1>but Cincinnati was with Burrow at least he Burrow started

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 1>that game and they so this is massive spot for them.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And on the Broncos side of things, I mean, they've

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>just been excellent all year. I just I gotta call

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it like it is, and they've just been excellent all year.