Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right
Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this
Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. Chiefs Lose, Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured.
Speaker 2: One of the weirdest, saddest reasons that I've had to
Speaker 2: do for this show. It was very strange, Chiefs eliminated
Speaker 2: from the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers, Patrick
Speaker 2: mahomes with the torn ACL and LCL They're done. Yesterdayson
Speaker 2: you said that this was the end of a chapter,
Speaker 2: or in the vie chapter.
Speaker 1: So I'll get into that part in a second. First,
Speaker 1: I want to say this, this is pro football, and
Speaker 1: this Yes, this is my hometown team, and yes I
Speaker 1: have a personal relationship for with Patrick, and so Andy's
Speaker 1: the face of the league and one of the defining
Speaker 1: players in league history. All of those things make this
Speaker 1: extra gutting in the short term, and we'll see what
Speaker 1: it means in the long term. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to overstate the how do I put this, because the
Speaker 1: devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy
Speaker 1: that folks should have for me, or for Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right now, I think that's overstated because this
Speaker 1: is pro football, and this happens. And it was the
Speaker 1: Chief's turn to have the year from hell, and it
Speaker 1: was sadly Patrick's turned to roll craps and he was
Speaker 1: through a knee injury the last few weeks. He was
Speaker 1: on the injury report the last few weeks. You saw
Speaker 1: him laboring. We said after Week one, man, he sure
Speaker 1: ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits.
Speaker 1: And there's a tax to all of it. There just is.
Speaker 1: And there is a cost to the twenty game seasons.
Speaker 1: There is a cost to the offensive line injuries. There
Speaker 1: is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a
Speaker 1: game when his knee was obviously bothering him. There is
Speaker 1: a cost to the Chiefs being in must win, gotta
Speaker 1: have it elimination games this early in the season. You
Speaker 1: extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there,
Speaker 1: and this happens. This is not I am sick for Patrick.
Speaker 1: I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and
Speaker 1: their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week
Speaker 1: of a season. The Colts and their fans watched Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning miss a whole year with a neck injury. The
Speaker 1: Packers and their fans watched Pete Aaron Rodgers knocked out
Speaker 1: for half a season with a snapped collar bone, like
Speaker 1: the Ravens twice have had Lamar late in a year,
Speaker 1: get hurt and never come back. The Bengals and Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow have had multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt.
Speaker 1: Like this is pro sports and this sport in particular,
Speaker 1: and so I am trying to balance how much it
Speaker 1: sucks that Patrick is going through this, how much the
Speaker 1: reality of We now have a line of demarcation in
Speaker 1: Patrick's career that's going to be before and after the
Speaker 1: ACL and we're going to see how he recovers from it,
Speaker 1: how he attacks it, how it changes for good or
Speaker 1: for bad, the player that he is, and I and
Speaker 1: I can recognize that and do me a favorite. Guys,
Speaker 1: don't put questions in the rundown near the top of it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this is a production note. While we're doing it. It's
Speaker 1: good I lose my train of thought and I can
Speaker 1: recognize all of that while also not feeling like woe
Speaker 1: is me is appropriate. This has been as good of
Speaker 1: a seven year run as any football fan base has
Speaker 1: ever gotten seven years of conference championship games, five super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, three Super Bowl victories. That you can put
Speaker 1: it up against anything any team has done in the
Speaker 1: history of the sport. This seven years matches any seven
Speaker 1: years the Patriots had, any seven years the Niners in
Speaker 1: the eighties had, and the Steelers in the seventies is
Speaker 1: a weird one because they won four super Bowls, but
Speaker 1: they didn't get to the conference championship game every year,
Speaker 1: and they didn't get to five super Bowls. That that's
Speaker 1: a tomato tomato thing. You can say that one was better,
Speaker 1: but it's at least in the argument. And and now
Speaker 1: the Chiefs received back into football general population, and then
Speaker 1: see if they can emerge once again.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 1: Hate that I have talked about this comp so much
Speaker 1: and now it is even more apropos But you guys
Speaker 1: have heard me whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes
Speaker 1: career stuff, talk about in his eighth years a starter,
Speaker 1: Tom blew out his knee and then that team had
Speaker 1: its only real lull. Obviously they missed the playoffs the
Speaker 1: year Tom missed. They still want eleven games, by the way,
Speaker 1: which is shout out to how unbelievable, the seven Pats
Speaker 1: and eight Pats or as a roster. And then in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine Tom wasn't his best. They won
Speaker 1: ten games and got annihilated in round one of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And in twenty ten Tom was exceptional. That team was
Speaker 1: fourteen and two, and then they lost one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest playoff games ever Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: And then in twenty eleven they started their run and
Speaker 1: I don't know what is I here is as far
Speaker 1: as this not being what's the right way to put this?
Speaker 1: In a weird way, I feel worse for Packer fans
Speaker 1: with the Mica injury than for Chief fans with the
Speaker 1: Mahomes injury. In this regard, I was wrong about this team.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it this year. And so had they
Speaker 1: been eleven and three in that game and or I
Speaker 1: guess ten and three because that was right? How do
Speaker 1: I have this right? I'm all scattered ten and three
Speaker 1: going into that game and had looked great. It was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is another championship level team. I think this would
Speaker 1: sting even more, but it was pretty clear it became
Speaker 1: I came to terms with where this Chiefs team was
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury drive
Speaker 1: of the first half up thirteen to three, letting the
Speaker 1: Chargers drive the length of the field the combo platter
Speaker 1: of not being able to punch in the Herbert interception
Speaker 1: and getting seven, and then later in the second quarter
Speaker 1: allowing them to go the length of the field in
Speaker 1: forty seconds to take what could have been a seventeen
Speaker 1: to three or at the very least thirteen to three,
Speaker 1: or worst case scenario, thirteen to six lead into halftime
Speaker 1: in a must win home game, letting the Chargers, whose
Speaker 1: offense right now is not very good, go the length
Speaker 1: of the field to make it thirteen to ten, and
Speaker 1: then watching the Chiefs offense do nothing the entire second half.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it, And so this was not the
Speaker 1: chief Thiefs leaving a man left as a potential championship
Speaker 1: on the table because the quarterback got hurt. They were
Speaker 1: not good enough this year, and I was wrong. I
Speaker 1: talked a lot of shit, poked at a lot of
Speaker 1: folks as soon as they looked like the Chiefs. Again,
Speaker 1: that was a brief mirage in who this scene was
Speaker 1: this season, and I do feel demonse that they are
Speaker 1: about to have a mirror held up to some of
Speaker 1: their structural issues that Patrick was holding together over these
Speaker 1: last three weeks of the year. Because I think they
Speaker 1: are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans. I think
Speaker 1: they are going to get beat up by the Denver Broncos. Okay,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see Week eighteen Raiders Chiefs in Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know who shows up for that game. But I
Speaker 1: think with these o line injuries, this lack of a
Speaker 1: running game, and one of the bigger disappointments of this
Speaker 1: season is the lack of development from the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see what this offense looks
Speaker 1: like with bad quarterback play. Because I understand Mahomes numbers
Speaker 1: after the bye the Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. I
Speaker 1: think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback play
Speaker 1: would look like with the team right now with its issues,
Speaker 1: and I do think that there needs to be some
Speaker 1: real soul searching is too strong, but some personal accountability
Speaker 1: by everyone involved in the team, and hey, how do
Speaker 1: we make sure the next time Patrick takes the field
Speaker 1: this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses as it
Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty five. And listen, it's hard. There
Speaker 1: is a reason only one team ever's gone to four
Speaker 1: straight Super Bowls. There's a reason only one team ever
Speaker 1: has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games.
Speaker 1: There is a reason only three other teams ever had
Speaker 1: gone to three straight Super Bowls. What the Chiefs accomplished
Speaker 1: was certain things were unprecedented, and certain things were only
Speaker 1: you know, had only been accomplished by one or two
Speaker 1: of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some
Speaker 1: of the where of the late draft picks, of guys
Speaker 1: not developing, of some a draft miss here, a free
Speaker 1: agency missed there, a poorly timed injury there. And they
Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, and they couldn't rush the passer
Speaker 1: all year long. And these receivers who I like, I
Speaker 1: think Rashid Rice has the ability to be excellent. I
Speaker 1: saw him be exceptional for the second half of his
Speaker 1: rookie season. I know the talent Xavier Worthy has. But
Speaker 1: those guys not developing into fully formed, legitimate man beating
Speaker 1: wide receivers hurt this team a lot too. And so
Speaker 1: those are the things that you address moving forward for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and then you see what version of Patrick
Speaker 1: we have when he comes back.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 1: The type of competitor and legendary athlete he is, that
Speaker 1: there is a very good chance he comes back as
Speaker 1: a better player as a player that if he especially
Speaker 1: if he can't early on rely as much on his athleticism,
Speaker 1: is even more precise in the pocket and traditional drop
Speaker 1: back since then he's been the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not worried about Patrick, and I would
Speaker 1: put I understand it was a terrible injury and he
Speaker 1: tore two ligaments. I would put all my money on
Speaker 1: him being back for Week one next year. It's right
Speaker 1: at nine months, and I think he'll do it. And
Speaker 1: what will the team around him look like? Is the question?
Speaker 1: Demonds knows some follow ups here before we get to
Speaker 1: other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were talking about making sure the roster was
Speaker 2: good from homes whenever he comes back. If Brett Vich
Speaker 2: hit you up today and asked what they should do
Speaker 2: to retool the team, how would you go about it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I think the biggest weakness right
Speaker 1: now is not being able to get a pass rush
Speaker 1: outside of Chris Jones, and they spent a first round
Speaker 1: pick on a player a couple of years ago who
Speaker 1: was put on the IR. This year, they spent a
Speaker 1: second round pick on Omar Norman Lot, a d tackle
Speaker 1: who was put on the IR early in the year.
Speaker 1: This was not a good Karloff this year, and they
Speaker 1: just paid him. So I think that that is the
Speaker 1: first thing that I would address, and the other one
Speaker 1: is they need to have listen. Isaiah Pacheco was an
Speaker 1: unbelievable story as a seventh round pick, and he was
Speaker 1: very productive and then and again it's pro football man,
Speaker 1: he broke his leg and has him been the same,
Speaker 1: and I feel sick for him. I hate the fact
Speaker 1: that he never really got paid. I and he's a
Speaker 1: champion and you know, really helped the team before those injuries,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been the same since then. And they
Speaker 1: can't run the ball effectively. So what they are going
Speaker 1: to have demons next year is a third place schedule
Speaker 1: and something like the tenth, eleventh, twelfth pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: which are two things that you never would have thought
Speaker 1: they would have going into this year. And so you
Speaker 1: have to take advantage of those things, and you also
Speaker 1: have to prepare for life after Travis Kelcey. Even though
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of people are fully convinced
Speaker 1: Travis's retire I am not fully convinced of that. I
Speaker 1: obviously not only is it possible, you could say it's likely,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that he has made up his mind.
Speaker 2: And I because I don't want to, right, And so
Speaker 2: now you don't always get to pick how you go out.
Speaker 1: Travis's brother played in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: the famous you know when they the first Eagle Chief
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They lost that Super Bowl. He decided to
Speaker 1: come back for one more year, and that was the
Speaker 1: year of the Eagles supernatural funk and meltdown and quitting
Speaker 1: in the playoff game. And that's how he went out.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest sinners ever. Travis lost in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, decided to come back. And now, like last
Speaker 1: moments with Mahomes on the field are dark, that what
Speaker 1: that was, and so I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he's going to do. He is still a good player,
Speaker 1: Is he a dominant player anymore?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Is he still one of the this year? Was he
Speaker 1: one of the five best tight ends in football, yes,
Speaker 1: and so he still has football left in him. The
Speaker 1: question is if he wants to keep doing go ahead?
Speaker 2: Do you think if it's a note that his brother
Speaker 2: he sat out that year and then his team won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the next year, I think his brother's
Speaker 2: got to tell him to stick in and stay with him. Maye,
Speaker 2: you guys will get this.
Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess that's right. Is the first year.
Speaker 2: After Yeah, they won Super Bowl? Yeah, what's your predictions
Speaker 2: for the next chapter?
Speaker 1: Listen, I think that I think that as long as
Speaker 1: you have the as long as you have Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Andy's not anywhere. And I understand there's been some
Speaker 1: criticism of Andy. I don't think this was his best year.
Speaker 1: I think Andy will is one of the greatest coaches
Speaker 1: in NFL history. And I do think that they, you know,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense post b enemy with Matt Nagy, hasn't
Speaker 1: been as guys are not running as wide open as
Speaker 1: they once were and things aren't quite as easy, and
Speaker 1: so they do need to address that. But I believe
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is going to be the coach of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs as long as he wants to be the coach
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs and I'm good with that. And Spags
Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere, and I believe Mahomes will come back
Speaker 1: and still be Mahomes, and so I do think that
Speaker 1: they can snap back to top tier contender. They were
Speaker 1: the favorites to win the super Bowl twenty nine days ago.
Speaker 1: But it's the NFL man like.
Speaker 3: Shit hacks crazy. I mean, ago, wait on.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl twenty nine days but you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta win games, you gotta play better, you gotta get
Speaker 1: lucky on the injury stuff, and so I will. I
Speaker 1: think that they will be the favorites in the AFC
Speaker 1: West again the start of next year. I think that.
Speaker 1: And you know, we'll get to Denver and the Chargers
Speaker 1: later in the show. I think that they will. If
Speaker 1: Buffalo does what it looks like Buffalo could do, they
Speaker 1: might have someone to go chase, which you know what,
Speaker 1: like that's how it's supposed to be. And I am
Speaker 1: not worried at all that the Chiefs are not going
Speaker 1: to get back to being the scariest team in football.
Speaker 1: I am acknowledging that this year will across the board
Speaker 1: is looked at as a failure, and then you double
Speaker 1: that up with the pain of the injury to Patrick,
Speaker 1: and you double that up with the Broncos in the
Speaker 1: Chargers having the years they've had, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a fight on their hands every year,
Speaker 1: so be it. I am. I think having the most
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Speaker 1: All right, demand let's get to Pats Ravens.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so Lamar Jackson's missing practice I think he's
Speaker 2: sick again. It's that time of year. The Patriots are
Speaker 2: super relevant, Denver and Jacksonville are in the top teams
Speaker 2: of the AFC. You tie that in with Kansas City
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati missing the playoffs. Is there a new class
Speaker 2: of the AFC?
Speaker 1: So I listen, I don't. I think this is a
Speaker 1: weird year. Yeah, and in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 1: because it's not just the Chiefs, and we've talked of
Speaker 1: and every year there's big turnover, but there's not typically
Speaker 1: this level of turnover year to year. Where the the
Speaker 1: best teams in the NFL last year the teams and
Speaker 1: we've talked about this a bit, the twelve plus win
Speaker 1: teams last year, Detroit won fifteen. They're on the outside
Speaker 1: looking in on the playoffs. Kansas City won fifteen, they're
Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs. Minnesota one fourteen. They've been terrible.
Speaker 1: Baltimore won twelve, they're on the outside looking in on
Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Commander's won twelve. They've had season from hell.
Speaker 1: The two twelve plus win teams that have maintained some
Speaker 1: level is Philly, which I think it's fair to say
Speaker 1: is not the caliber of team they were last year
Speaker 1: and Buffalo, which might be you know, Buffalo surging at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So that part is uh.
Speaker 1: I have talked a lot about how this year reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of eight sadly in that that the
Speaker 1: Patriots coming off the undefeated season, Brady blows out his knee,
Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs, Peyton manning the with the Colts,
Speaker 1: they're a wild card team because the Tennessee Titans, God,
Speaker 1: I think that was the Carrie was that Carrie Collins
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. They end up uh being the one seed
Speaker 1: overall the and it feels like there's a lot of upheaval,
Speaker 1: which then led to one of the weirdest Super Bowls
Speaker 1: ever where the Steelers make it, which isn't that weird,
Speaker 1: but they were pretty clear going into the season third
Speaker 1: choice if that in the AFC, behind the Patriots and
Speaker 1: the steel and the Colts, with really the Ravens being
Speaker 1: right there in that conversation. And then in the NFC
Speaker 1: a nine win Arizona Cardinals team made it and that
Speaker 1: was that Super Bowl. So I say that because then
Speaker 1: the next year things kind of went back to normal.
Speaker 1: The Patriots won their division again, the Colts won fourteen
Speaker 1: games and won their division again. The Steelers ended up
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs. The in the NFC, it drew Brees
Speaker 1: and the Saints were dominant the so it was things
Speaker 1: got back to normal to a degree. So this is
Speaker 1: a weird year and there are now you do have
Speaker 1: to take more seriously. The young gun quarterback led teams
Speaker 1: in the AFC. But I don't think it's a full
Speaker 1: blown changing of the guard. So that's first of all.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about this game specifically. Come, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with Lamar and I do not care if people
Speaker 1: think I'm a hater. I just don't. This is gonna
Speaker 1: sound that whatever. Gotta grow up. Man can't get sick
Speaker 1: every year in misswork.
Speaker 3: Just can't.
Speaker 1: What other quarterbacks demand? What other quarterbacks. Since we've been
Speaker 1: doing the show, can you remember us talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: critical playoff push time and he's sick again. I can't.
Speaker 1: It's it's every years.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, yeah, I'm thinking something else is going on,
Speaker 2: but uh, but yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: Every year.
Speaker 3: As soon as it gets called out.
Speaker 1: Every year, when it gets called out, if you're a
Speaker 1: pro athlete, he just can't. It's every year. The guy
Speaker 1: is sick and we could you can't be like, ah, well,
Speaker 1: what does it matter? He plays on Sunday, Like missing
Speaker 1: practice this year has hurt him. He missed four weeks
Speaker 1: of practice with different injuries, or four weeks of in
Speaker 1: four weeks in a row. He missed a practice he
Speaker 1: didn't was you know? Then last week he missed a
Speaker 1: practice because of a rest day. Yesterday flew like symptoms.
Speaker 4: Like I'm sorry the but I know that this is
Speaker 4: this is me being an old man, and I understand
Speaker 4: I I I say this walking into it knowing that.
Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar fans are going to clip this and
Speaker 1: see it and say, this guy, he's the only quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league that would get criticized for getting sick.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what, that's true because it's
Speaker 1: every year the guy got COVID a dozen times and
Speaker 1: then and since then, every year has the seasonal flu.
Speaker 1: Can't have it. So that's like, I know I'm right.
Speaker 1: I don't care if it sounds bad. I know I'm right.
Speaker 1: So that's first of all. Second of all, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure whether or not Lamar healthy or not is back.
Speaker 1: This past week was such a weird game because he's
Speaker 1: eight of twelve, but it's for one hundred and fifty yards.
Speaker 1: But he threw one pick, but that wasn't really his fault.
Speaker 1: But he also took four sacks, and or sacks when
Speaker 1: you throw twelve passes, means sacked on the court of
Speaker 1: your dropbacks, so that part's a little concerning. Also, Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: winning all these games, these last couple of games has
Speaker 1: really put the Ravens behind the eight ball. So none
Speaker 1: of that makes me feel good about Baltimore, which leads
Speaker 1: me to the Patriots. So go ahead and ask me
Speaker 1: the Patriots question. Because these two tie into each other.
Speaker 2: Should Patriots fans be concerned if they drop a second
Speaker 2: game in a row.
Speaker 1: Yes, because Baltimore is not that good. That's the I
Speaker 1: think that the Patriots were crushing these bad teams, and
Speaker 1: the one knock on them was you haven't played anybody,
Speaker 1: and they're like, but we played the Bills and we
Speaker 1: beat them, and then you're up twenty one zhering on
Speaker 1: the Bills and they walk you down and beat you.
Speaker 1: You then respond respond to that by Sunday Night Football
Speaker 1: National TV. A Ravens team that has been shaky, you
Speaker 1: lose that game. Then to me, I am putting you
Speaker 1: in the category of awesome season, something to build on,
Speaker 1: not real contender. Does that you seem like you think?
Speaker 3: I'm yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the same thing with the Bill is how
Speaker 2: the Bills just came back and beat them just because
Speaker 2: I just think they're older guys. I think they're more experienced.
Speaker 2: The same thing with the Ravens. I think Patriot fans
Speaker 2: should be disappointed if they lose to the Ravens.
Speaker 3: Is a good squad.
Speaker 2: You've seen how Lamar Jackson can play, and if Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson comes back and he's good in this game, I
Speaker 2: think that it'd be pretty understandable.
Speaker 1: But I guess here's the thing. Here's here's would be
Speaker 1: my counter to that. You're right, there's no shame in
Speaker 1: losing to Baltimore. It doesn't mean you're a bad team, right,
Speaker 1: But if in your two playoff dress rehearsals you play
Speaker 1: playoff caliber teams and you lose them both, do I
Speaker 1: then think you're going to win three straight playoff games
Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl? I don't. It's the Patriots,
Speaker 1: you know, fall to one in three on the year
Speaker 1: against teams above five hundred, which is what it would be.
Speaker 2: That's well, because you were saying, like all the Ravens
Speaker 2: are cheeks, Like you know, if you can't if you
Speaker 2: lose to them, that's a bad.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's a bit of It's not that the race
Speaker 1: and I won't call them that I was born in
Speaker 1: the eighties. It's not that I think the Ravens are terrible.
Speaker 1: It's that the Ravens we have seen over the course
Speaker 1: of the season, I think it's fair to say they're
Speaker 1: not a great team, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: Ravens are a high upside team, but we just haven't
Speaker 1: seen that upside and even last week. The defense was
Speaker 1: awesome last week. Yeah, but they scored seventeen offensive points
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, Like, that's not a game that afterwards you're like, man,
Speaker 1: we are rolling. And so I'm very interested to see it.
Speaker 1: This game will be featured in Knicks Picks in tomorrow's show. Uh,
Speaker 1: all right, what other follow up you got before we
Speaker 1: move on?
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that the Ravens are likely
Speaker 2: to get a head coach a new head coach next
Speaker 2: year for Lamar if they crap out this season, if.
Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs. I think hardball's out right. I
Speaker 1: just think that you may have a new team doctor.
Speaker 3: Yeah, new team doctor as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, or maybe have Lamar put a coat on.
Speaker 3: I don't know, explain football outside. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about I don't. I have a theory
Speaker 1: as to why Lamar gets sick so often, but I'm
Speaker 1: not sharing it.
Speaker 3: You don't think he addresses appropriately for the weather. Let's
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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, Let's talk a sneaky huge game in
Speaker 1: the AFC.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, so my Jags have been humming. Offense is
Speaker 3: looking great, defense holding up. Call them your Jazz, solid team, Jazz,
Speaker 3: you're your Jacks. They've been humming. But they got Denver
Speaker 3: this week. Well, obviously has that excellent defense. How high
Speaker 3: would your confidence be if Trevor came out of this
Speaker 3: game and dealt with that defense with a win.
Speaker 1: Oh, here's the thing. It's not just that my confidence
Speaker 1: would be high. They win this game. They are super alive.
Speaker 1: Demanse to be the one seed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their next two colts Titans.
Speaker 1: So let's just go ahead and ship them those wins.
Speaker 1: Then all you need is for Denver to slip up
Speaker 1: one once in the final two weeks. Now, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to do because Denver faces what's left of
Speaker 1: the Chiefs on Christmas and then the Chargers in a
Speaker 1: game the Chargers might not need. So in that regard that,
Speaker 1: you know that it's unlikely that Denver falls, you know,
Speaker 1: loses one of those two games, but it's possible. The
Speaker 1: other thing for the Jags is this, and I do
Speaker 1: think for Trevor in particular, that matters. If they win
Speaker 1: this game, they have a great chance of not necessarily
Speaker 1: getting the buye, but being the two seed. So why
Speaker 1: does that matter? I don't think Trevor and this Jags offense,
Speaker 1: which always sudden is super potent, wants to go to
Speaker 1: New England or I guess in theory Buffalo in round two,
Speaker 1: like they want it in Florida, like that is where
Speaker 1: for this team. I think staying out of the cold
Speaker 1: as long as possible is a real benefit. And Denver
Speaker 1: it just came off it's best game of the year
Speaker 1: and Denver is playing it's best football of the year.
Speaker 1: And I've talked about this enough. No one can say
Speaker 1: I'm running from it. I am staring in the face
Speaker 1: potentially being as wrong about Denver as I've been about
Speaker 1: any team. Going from where I was on them going
Speaker 1: into the year to the end of the year. You
Speaker 1: can say, you know, it's kind of Denver and the
Speaker 1: Raiders right now are the Raiders though I was just
Speaker 1: stone wrong on but and maybe the audience accres with
Speaker 1: me on this, I don't know. I feel like a
Speaker 1: team that everyone expects to be ad, that you think
Speaker 1: can be good and then they end up being bad
Speaker 1: is not as embarrassing a type of wrong as a
Speaker 1: team that a lot of people think can be really
Speaker 1: good everyone thinks will be kind of good, and you're like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna stink, and then that team ends up being awesome.
Speaker 1: That's like the most embarrassing type of wrong. And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm staring at with Denver. I uh, but if
Speaker 1: the Jags go to Denver and win that game, you
Speaker 1: have to start opening up the possibility that don't know
Speaker 1: why the Super Bowl, Yes, yeah, that don't know why
Speaker 1: it took Trevor this long for it to click in
Speaker 1: for him. But post Thanksgiving, he's got ten touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty five a game. He's been awesome, and
Speaker 1: they Liam Cohen has just done an awesome job and
Speaker 1: so and Trevor, by the way, was not playing very
Speaker 1: well earlier in the year. They were winning earlier in
Speaker 1: the year despite him, and so this would be obviously
Speaker 1: just a massive, massive win. Now the flip side is this,
Speaker 1: they lose this game, Demonse, and it becomes on the
Speaker 1: board that the Texans run him down for the division.
Speaker 1: So like that's the that's the other. So this is
Speaker 1: a huge we're talking about could the playoffs go through Jacksonville?
Speaker 1: Could they be the two seed. The flip side to
Speaker 1: all of that is, if they lose this game, the
Speaker 1: Texans path to winning the division opens up quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And so they did split, and it's a bad split
Speaker 1: because the Jags beat them early and then when they
Speaker 1: played again, that was the game the Jags were up
Speaker 1: twenty six nothing entering the fourth quarter against Davis Mills
Speaker 1: and they lost that game.
Speaker 3: So you know that is heavily of note.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, that's a huge spot. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just an absolutely huge spot that because had they just
Speaker 1: held onto that game demans, then they would be playing
Speaker 1: this weekend to be the one seed. Right, they would
Speaker 1: be eleven and three. Denver is sitting at twelve and two,
Speaker 1: and then you beat Denver and get the tiebreaker and
Speaker 1: basically lock up the one seed. So yeah, that loss
Speaker 1: is brutal for them. But aside from that game, the
Speaker 1: Jags have been what they here's what they've done since
Speaker 1: that game. They beat the Chargers by twenty nine, a
Speaker 1: pretty lucky, ugly overtime win against Arizona. Annihilated the Titans,
Speaker 1: annihilated the Colts, annihilated the Jets. Now, if you're looking
Speaker 1: at that, I mean, like that's a lot of bad teams, agreed.
Speaker 1: But early in the year, they beat Houston, they beat
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they beat Kansas City. They have the best
Speaker 1: if such a thing exists in the NFL. They have
Speaker 1: the best losses this year. As far as who they played,
Speaker 1: they lost to Cincinnati in Week two when Burrow was
Speaker 1: still there. But I guess Browning, you know, Borough got
Speaker 1: hurt in that game. They lost to Seattle, they lost
Speaker 1: to the Rams, they lost to the Texans, So they
Speaker 1: don't have they haven't lost to any offense team. Yeah, Sonatio,
Speaker 1: but Cincinnati was with Burrow at least he Burrow started
Speaker 1: that game and they so this is massive spot for them.
Speaker 1: And on the Broncos side of things, I mean, they've
Speaker 1: just been excellent all year. I just I gotta call
Speaker 1: it like it is, and they've just been excellent all year.