1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best of the week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes in moments from this 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: week on the show. Enjoy. Chiefs Lose, Chiefs eliminated, Patrick injured. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: One of the weirdest, saddest reasons that I've had to 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: do for this show. It was very strange, Chiefs eliminated 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: from the playoffs after the loss of the Chargers, Patrick 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: mahomes with the torn ACL and LCL They're done. Yesterdayson 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: you said that this was the end of a chapter, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: or in the vie chapter. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: So I'll get into that part in a second. First, 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: I want to say this, this is pro football, and 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: this Yes, this is my hometown team, and yes I 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: have a personal relationship for with Patrick, and so Andy's 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: the face of the league and one of the defining 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: players in league history. All of those things make this 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: extra gutting in the short term, and we'll see what 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: it means in the long term. But I don't want 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: to overstate the how do I put this, because the 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: devastation of the moment is real. The sympathy or empathy 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: that folks should have for me, or for Chiefs fans 21 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right now, I think that's overstated because this 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: is pro football, and this happens. And it was the 23 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: Chief's turn to have the year from hell, and it 24 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: was sadly Patrick's turned to roll craps and he was 25 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: through a knee injury the last few weeks. He was 26 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: on the injury report the last few weeks. You saw 27 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: him laboring. We said after Week one, man, he sure 28 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: ran a lot and sure took a lot of hits. 29 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: And there's a tax to all of it. There just is. 30 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: And there is a cost to the twenty game seasons. 31 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: There is a cost to the offensive line injuries. There 32 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: is a cost to Patrick's refusal to sit out a 33 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: game when his knee was obviously bothering him. There is 34 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: a cost to the Chiefs being in must win, gotta 35 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: have it elimination games this early in the season. You 36 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: extend your body, you extend plays, you put yourself out there, 37 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: and this happens. This is not I am sick for Patrick. 38 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: I'm sick for myself, but I'm also the Patriots and 39 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: their fans watch Tom Brady go down the first week 40 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: of a season. The Colts and their fans watched Peyton 41 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Manning miss a whole year with a neck injury. The 42 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: Packers and their fans watched Pete Aaron Rodgers knocked out 43 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: for half a season with a snapped collar bone, like 44 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens twice have had Lamar late in a year, 45 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: get hurt and never come back. The Bengals and Joe 46 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Burrow have had multiple seasons derailed by the guy getting hurt. 47 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Like this is pro sports and this sport in particular, 48 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: and so I am trying to balance how much it 49 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: sucks that Patrick is going through this, how much the 50 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: reality of We now have a line of demarcation in 51 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Patrick's career that's going to be before and after the 52 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: ACL and we're going to see how he recovers from it, 53 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: how he attacks it, how it changes for good or 54 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: for bad, the player that he is, and I and 55 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: I can recognize that and do me a favorite. Guys, 56 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: don't put questions in the rundown near the top of it. Sorry, 57 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: this is a production note. While we're doing it. It's 58 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: good I lose my train of thought and I can 59 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: recognize all of that while also not feeling like woe 60 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: is me is appropriate. This has been as good of 61 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: a seven year run as any football fan base has 62 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: ever gotten seven years of conference championship games, five super 63 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, three Super Bowl victories. That you can put 64 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: it up against anything any team has done in the 65 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: history of the sport. This seven years matches any seven 66 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: years the Patriots had, any seven years the Niners in 67 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: the eighties had, and the Steelers in the seventies is 68 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: a weird one because they won four super Bowls, but 69 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: they didn't get to the conference championship game every year, 70 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: and they didn't get to five super Bowls. That that's 71 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: a tomato tomato thing. You can say that one was better, 72 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: but it's at least in the argument. And and now 73 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: the Chiefs received back into football general population, and then 74 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: see if they can emerge once again. 75 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: And I. 76 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: Hate that I have talked about this comp so much 77 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: and now it is even more apropos But you guys 78 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: have heard me whenever we have done the Brady Mahomes 79 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: career stuff, talk about in his eighth years a starter, 80 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Tom blew out his knee and then that team had 81 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: its only real lull. Obviously they missed the playoffs the 82 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: year Tom missed. They still want eleven games, by the way, 83 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: which is shout out to how unbelievable, the seven Pats 84 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: and eight Pats or as a roster. And then in 85 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine Tom wasn't his best. They won 86 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: ten games and got annihilated in round one of the playoffs. 87 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: And in twenty ten Tom was exceptional. That team was 88 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: fourteen and two, and then they lost one of the 89 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: weirdest playoff games ever Mark Sanchez and the New York Jets. 90 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: And then in twenty eleven they started their run and 91 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what is I here is as far 92 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: as this not being what's the right way to put this? 93 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: In a weird way, I feel worse for Packer fans 94 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: with the Mica injury than for Chief fans with the 95 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Mahomes injury. In this regard, I was wrong about this team. 96 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: They didn't have it this year. And so had they 97 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: been eleven and three in that game and or I 98 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: guess ten and three because that was right? How do 99 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: I have this right? I'm all scattered ten and three 100 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: going into that game and had looked great. It was like, man, 101 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: this is another championship level team. I think this would 102 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: sting even more, but it was pretty clear it became 103 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I came to terms with where this Chiefs team was 104 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: about an hour and a half before Mahomes's injury drive 105 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: of the first half up thirteen to three, letting the 106 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: Chargers drive the length of the field the combo platter 107 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: of not being able to punch in the Herbert interception 108 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: and getting seven, and then later in the second quarter 109 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: allowing them to go the length of the field in 110 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: forty seconds to take what could have been a seventeen 111 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: to three or at the very least thirteen to three, 112 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: or worst case scenario, thirteen to six lead into halftime 113 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: in a must win home game, letting the Chargers, whose 114 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: offense right now is not very good, go the length 115 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: of the field to make it thirteen to ten, and 116 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: then watching the Chiefs offense do nothing the entire second half. 117 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: They didn't have it, And so this was not the 118 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: chief Thiefs leaving a man left as a potential championship 119 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: on the table because the quarterback got hurt. They were 120 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: not good enough this year, and I was wrong. I 121 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: talked a lot of shit, poked at a lot of 122 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: folks as soon as they looked like the Chiefs. Again, 123 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: that was a brief mirage in who this scene was 124 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: this season, and I do feel demonse that they are 125 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: about to have a mirror held up to some of 126 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: their structural issues that Patrick was holding together over these 127 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: last three weeks of the year. Because I think they 128 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: are going to lose to the Tennessee Titans. I think 129 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: they are going to get beat up by the Denver Broncos. Okay, 130 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: and then we'll see Week eighteen Raiders Chiefs in Vegas. 131 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: You know who shows up for that game. But I 132 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: think with these o line injuries, this lack of a 133 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: running game, and one of the bigger disappointments of this 134 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: season is the lack of development from the wide receivers, 135 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I think you're going to see what this offense looks 136 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: like with bad quarterback play. Because I understand Mahomes numbers 137 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: after the bye the Cowboys game notwithstanding, were ghastly. The 138 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys game is the one thing propping them up. I 139 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: think you're about to see what actual bad quarterback play 140 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: would look like with the team right now with its issues, 141 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: and I do think that there needs to be some 142 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: real soul searching is too strong, but some personal accountability 143 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: by everyone involved in the team, and hey, how do 144 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: we make sure the next time Patrick takes the field 145 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: this team doesn't have as many glaring weaknesses as it 146 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: had in twenty twenty five. And listen, it's hard. There 147 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: is a reason only one team ever's gone to four 148 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: straight Super Bowls. There's a reason only one team ever 149 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: has gone to more than seven straight conference championship games. 150 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: There is a reason only three other teams ever had 151 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: gone to three straight Super Bowls. What the Chiefs accomplished 152 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: was certain things were unprecedented, and certain things were only 153 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, had only been accomplished by one or two 154 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: of the other greatest dynasties ever. But you saw some 155 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: of the where of the late draft picks, of guys 156 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: not developing, of some a draft miss here, a free 157 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: agency missed there, a poorly timed injury there. And they 158 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball, and they couldn't rush the passer 159 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: all year long. And these receivers who I like, I 160 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: think Rashid Rice has the ability to be excellent. I 161 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: saw him be exceptional for the second half of his 162 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: rookie season. I know the talent Xavier Worthy has. But 163 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: those guys not developing into fully formed, legitimate man beating 164 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: wide receivers hurt this team a lot too. And so 165 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: those are the things that you address moving forward for 166 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and then you see what version of Patrick 167 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: we have when he comes back. 168 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: I believe. 169 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: The type of competitor and legendary athlete he is, that 170 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: there is a very good chance he comes back as 171 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: a better player as a player that if he especially 172 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: if he can't early on rely as much on his athleticism, 173 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: is even more precise in the pocket and traditional drop 174 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: back since then he's been the last couple of years, 175 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: and so I'm not worried about Patrick, and I would 176 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: put I understand it was a terrible injury and he 177 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: tore two ligaments. I would put all my money on 178 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: him being back for Week one next year. It's right 179 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: at nine months, and I think he'll do it. And 180 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: what will the team around him look like? Is the question? 181 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: Demonds knows some follow ups here before we get to 182 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: other stuff. 183 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were talking about making sure the roster was 184 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: good from homes whenever he comes back. If Brett Vich 185 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: hit you up today and asked what they should do 186 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: to retool the team, how would you go about it? 187 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I listen, I think the biggest weakness right 188 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: now is not being able to get a pass rush 189 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: outside of Chris Jones, and they spent a first round 190 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: pick on a player a couple of years ago who 191 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: was put on the IR. This year, they spent a 192 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: second round pick on Omar Norman Lot, a d tackle 193 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: who was put on the IR early in the year. 194 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: This was not a good Karloff this year, and they 195 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: just paid him. So I think that that is the 196 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: first thing that I would address, and the other one 197 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: is they need to have listen. Isaiah Pacheco was an 198 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: unbelievable story as a seventh round pick, and he was 199 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: very productive and then and again it's pro football man, 200 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: he broke his leg and has him been the same, 201 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: and I feel sick for him. I hate the fact 202 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: that he never really got paid. I and he's a 203 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: champion and you know, really helped the team before those injuries, 204 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: but he hasn't been the same since then. And they 205 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: can't run the ball effectively. So what they are going 206 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: to have demons next year is a third place schedule 207 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: and something like the tenth, eleventh, twelfth pick of the draft, 208 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: which are two things that you never would have thought 209 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: they would have going into this year. And so you 210 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: have to take advantage of those things, and you also 211 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: have to prepare for life after Travis Kelcey. Even though 212 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of people are fully convinced 213 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Travis's retire I am not fully convinced of that. I 214 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: obviously not only is it possible, you could say it's likely, 215 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know that he has made up his mind. 216 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 2: And I because I don't want to, right, And so 217 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: now you don't always get to pick how you go out. 218 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: Travis's brother played in the Super Bowl against the Chiefs, 219 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: the famous you know when they the first Eagle Chief 220 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They lost that Super Bowl. He decided to 221 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: come back for one more year, and that was the 222 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: year of the Eagles supernatural funk and meltdown and quitting 223 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: in the playoff game. And that's how he went out. 224 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: One of the greatest sinners ever. Travis lost in the 225 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, decided to come back. And now, like last 226 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: moments with Mahomes on the field are dark, that what 227 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: that was, and so I don't know. I don't know 228 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: what he's going to do. He is still a good player, 229 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Is he a dominant player anymore? 230 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 3: No? 231 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: Is he still one of the this year? Was he 232 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: one of the five best tight ends in football, yes, 233 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: and so he still has football left in him. The 234 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: question is if he wants to keep doing go ahead? 235 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: Do you think if it's a note that his brother 236 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: he sat out that year and then his team won 237 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl the next year, I think his brother's 238 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: got to tell him to stick in and stay with him. Maye, 239 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: you guys will get this. 240 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: Oh that's interesting. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, I 241 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: guess that's right. Is the first year. 242 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: After Yeah, they won Super Bowl? Yeah, what's your predictions 243 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: for the next chapter? 244 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Listen, I think that I think that as long as 245 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: you have the as long as you have Patrick Mahomes 246 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: and Andy's not anywhere. And I understand there's been some 247 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: criticism of Andy. I don't think this was his best year. 248 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: I think Andy will is one of the greatest coaches 249 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: in NFL history. And I do think that they, you know, 250 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs offense post b enemy with Matt Nagy, hasn't 251 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: been as guys are not running as wide open as 252 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: they once were and things aren't quite as easy, and 253 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: so they do need to address that. But I believe 254 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is going to be the coach of the 255 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: Chiefs as long as he wants to be the coach 256 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs and I'm good with that. And Spags 257 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: isn't going anywhere, and I believe Mahomes will come back 258 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: and still be Mahomes, and so I do think that 259 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: they can snap back to top tier contender. They were 260 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: the favorites to win the super Bowl twenty nine days ago. 261 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: But it's the NFL man like. 262 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: Shit hacks crazy. I mean, ago, wait on. 263 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: The super Bowl twenty nine days but you know, you 264 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: gotta win games, you gotta play better, you gotta get 265 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: lucky on the injury stuff, and so I will. I 266 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: think that they will be the favorites in the AFC 267 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: West again the start of next year. I think that. 268 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: And you know, we'll get to Denver and the Chargers 269 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: later in the show. I think that they will. If 270 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Buffalo does what it looks like Buffalo could do, they 271 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: might have someone to go chase, which you know what, 272 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: like that's how it's supposed to be. And I am 273 00:21:53,960 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: not worried at all that the Chiefs are not going 274 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: to get back to being the scariest team in football. 275 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I am acknowledging that this year will across the board 276 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: is looked at as a failure, and then you double 277 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: that up with the pain of the injury to Patrick, 278 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: and you double that up with the Broncos in the 279 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: Chargers having the years they've had, and it's like, Okay, 280 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a fight on their hands every year, 281 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: so be it. I am. 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You tie that in with Kansas City 319 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 2: and Cincinnati missing the playoffs. Is there a new class 320 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: of the AFC? 321 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: So I listen, I don't. I think this is a 322 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: weird year. Yeah, and in a lot of different ways, 323 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: because it's not just the Chiefs, and we've talked of 324 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: and every year there's big turnover, but there's not typically 325 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: this level of turnover year to year. Where the the 326 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFL last year the teams and 327 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about this a bit, the twelve plus win 328 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: teams last year, Detroit won fifteen. They're on the outside 329 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: looking in on the playoffs. Kansas City won fifteen, they're 330 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs. Minnesota one fourteen. They've been terrible. 331 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: Baltimore won twelve, they're on the outside looking in on 332 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Commander's won twelve. They've had season from hell. 333 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: The two twelve plus win teams that have maintained some 334 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: level is Philly, which I think it's fair to say 335 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: is not the caliber of team they were last year 336 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: and Buffalo, which might be you know, Buffalo surging at 337 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year. So that part is uh. 338 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: I have talked a lot about how this year reminds 339 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: me a lot of eight sadly in that that the 340 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: Patriots coming off the undefeated season, Brady blows out his knee, 341 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs, Peyton manning the with the Colts, 342 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: they're a wild card team because the Tennessee Titans, God, 343 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: I think that was the Carrie was that Carrie Collins 344 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. They end up uh being the one seed 345 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: overall the and it feels like there's a lot of upheaval, 346 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: which then led to one of the weirdest Super Bowls 347 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: ever where the Steelers make it, which isn't that weird, 348 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: but they were pretty clear going into the season third 349 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: choice if that in the AFC, behind the Patriots and 350 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: the steel and the Colts, with really the Ravens being 351 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: right there in that conversation. And then in the NFC 352 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: a nine win Arizona Cardinals team made it and that 353 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: was that Super Bowl. So I say that because then 354 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: the next year things kind of went back to normal. 355 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: The Patriots won their division again, the Colts won fourteen 356 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: games and won their division again. The Steelers ended up 357 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: missing the playoffs. The in the NFC, it drew Brees 358 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: and the Saints were dominant the so it was things 359 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: got back to normal to a degree. So this is 360 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: a weird year and there are now you do have 361 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: to take more seriously. The young gun quarterback led teams 362 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: in the AFC. But I don't think it's a full 363 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: blown changing of the guard. So that's first of all. 364 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about this game specifically. Come, I'm gonna 365 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: start with Lamar and I do not care if people 366 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: think I'm a hater. I just don't. This is gonna 367 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: sound that whatever. Gotta grow up. Man can't get sick 368 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: every year in misswork. 369 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 3: Just can't. 370 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: What other quarterbacks demand? What other quarterbacks. Since we've been 371 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: doing the show, can you remember us talking about, oh, 372 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: critical playoff push time and he's sick again. I can't. 373 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: It's it's every years. 374 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, yeah, I'm thinking something else is going on, 375 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: but uh, but yeah, I mean. 376 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: Every year. 377 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: As soon as it gets called out. 378 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: Every year, when it gets called out, if you're a 379 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: pro athlete, he just can't. It's every year. The guy 380 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: is sick and we could you can't be like, ah, well, 381 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: what does it matter? He plays on Sunday, Like missing 382 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: practice this year has hurt him. He missed four weeks 383 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: of practice with different injuries, or four weeks of in 384 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: four weeks in a row. He missed a practice he 385 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: didn't was you know? Then last week he missed a 386 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: practice because of a rest day. Yesterday flew like symptoms. 387 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: Like I'm sorry the but I know that this is 388 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: this is me being an old man, and I understand 389 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: I I I say this walking into it knowing that. 390 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar fans are going to clip this and 391 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: see it and say, this guy, he's the only quarterback 392 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: in the league that would get criticized for getting sick. 393 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know what, that's true because it's 394 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: every year the guy got COVID a dozen times and 395 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: then and since then, every year has the seasonal flu. 396 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: Can't have it. So that's like, I know I'm right. 397 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't care if it sounds bad. I know I'm right. 398 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: So that's first of all. Second of all, I'm not 399 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: sure whether or not Lamar healthy or not is back. 400 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: This past week was such a weird game because he's 401 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: eight of twelve, but it's for one hundred and fifty yards. 402 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: But he threw one pick, but that wasn't really his fault. 403 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: But he also took four sacks, and or sacks when 404 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: you throw twelve passes, means sacked on the court of 405 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: your dropbacks, so that part's a little concerning. Also, Pittsburgh 406 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: winning all these games, these last couple of games has 407 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: really put the Ravens behind the eight ball. So none 408 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: of that makes me feel good about Baltimore, which leads 409 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: me to the Patriots. So go ahead and ask me 410 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots question. Because these two tie into each other. 411 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: Should Patriots fans be concerned if they drop a second 412 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: game in a row. 413 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: Yes, because Baltimore is not that good. That's the I 414 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: think that the Patriots were crushing these bad teams, and 415 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: the one knock on them was you haven't played anybody, 416 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: and they're like, but we played the Bills and we 417 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: beat them, and then you're up twenty one zhering on 418 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: the Bills and they walk you down and beat you. 419 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: You then respond respond to that by Sunday Night Football 420 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: National TV. A Ravens team that has been shaky, you 421 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: lose that game. Then to me, I am putting you 422 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: in the category of awesome season, something to build on, 423 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: not real contender. Does that you seem like you think? 424 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: I'm yeah. 425 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: I think the same thing with the Bill is how 426 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: the Bills just came back and beat them just because 427 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: I just think they're older guys. I think they're more experienced. 428 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: The same thing with the Ravens. I think Patriot fans 429 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: should be disappointed if they lose to the Ravens. 430 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 3: Is a good squad. 431 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: You've seen how Lamar Jackson can play, and if Lamar 432 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: Jackson comes back and he's good in this game, I 433 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: think that it'd be pretty understandable. 434 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: But I guess here's the thing. Here's here's would be 435 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: my counter to that. You're right, there's no shame in 436 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: losing to Baltimore. It doesn't mean you're a bad team, right, 437 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: But if in your two playoff dress rehearsals you play 438 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: playoff caliber teams and you lose them both, do I 439 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: then think you're going to win three straight playoff games 440 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: to make the Super Bowl? I don't. It's the Patriots, 441 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, fall to one in three on the year 442 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: against teams above five hundred, which is what it would be. 443 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 2: That's well, because you were saying, like all the Ravens 444 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: are cheeks, Like you know, if you can't if you 445 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: lose to them, that's a bad. 446 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: Listen, it's a bit of It's not that the race 447 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: and I won't call them that I was born in 448 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: the eighties. It's not that I think the Ravens are terrible. 449 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: It's that the Ravens we have seen over the course 450 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: of the season, I think it's fair to say they're 451 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: not a great team, you know what I mean, Like, 452 00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: Ravens are a high upside team, but we just haven't 453 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: seen that upside and even last week. The defense was 454 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: awesome last week. Yeah, but they scored seventeen offensive points 455 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, Like, that's not a game that afterwards you're like, man, 456 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: we are rolling. And so I'm very interested to see it. 457 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: This game will be featured in Knicks Picks in tomorrow's show. Uh, 458 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: all right, what other follow up you got before we 459 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: move on? 460 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that the Ravens are likely 461 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 2: to get a head coach a new head coach next 462 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: year for Lamar if they crap out this season, if. 463 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs. I think hardball's out right. I 464 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: just think that you may have a new team doctor. 465 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, new team doctor as well. 466 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, or maybe have Lamar put a coat on. 467 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 3: I don't know, explain football outside. What do you mean? 468 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about I don't. 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Terms of course do apply. 489 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: All right, demonse, Let's talk a sneaky huge game in 490 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the AFC. 491 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, so my Jags have been humming. Offense is 492 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: looking great, defense holding up. Call them your Jazz, solid team, Jazz, 493 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: you're your Jacks. They've been humming. But they got Denver 494 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: this week. Well, obviously has that excellent defense. How high 495 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: would your confidence be if Trevor came out of this 496 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: game and dealt with that defense with a win. 497 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh, here's the thing. It's not just that my confidence 498 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: would be high. They win this game. They are super alive. 499 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: Demanse to be the one seed. 500 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, their next two colts Titans. 501 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: So let's just go ahead and ship them those wins. 502 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Then all you need is for Denver to slip up 503 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: one once in the final two weeks. Now, that's gonna 504 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: be hard to do because Denver faces what's left of 505 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs on Christmas and then the Chargers in a 506 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: game the Chargers might not need. So in that regard that, 507 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: you know that it's unlikely that Denver falls, you know, 508 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: loses one of those two games, but it's possible. The 509 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: other thing for the Jags is this, and I do 510 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: think for Trevor in particular, that matters. If they win 511 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: this game, they have a great chance of not necessarily 512 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: getting the buye, but being the two seed. So why 513 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: does that matter? I don't think Trevor and this Jags offense, 514 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: which always sudden is super potent, wants to go to 515 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 1: New England or I guess in theory Buffalo in round two, 516 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: like they want it in Florida, like that is where 517 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: for this team. I think staying out of the cold 518 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: as long as possible is a real benefit. And Denver 519 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: it just came off it's best game of the year 520 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: and Denver is playing it's best football of the year. 521 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: And I've talked about this enough. No one can say 522 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm running from it. I am staring in the face 523 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: potentially being as wrong about Denver as I've been about 524 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: any team. Going from where I was on them going 525 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: into the year to the end of the year. You 526 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: can say, you know, it's kind of Denver and the 527 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: Raiders right now are the Raiders though I was just 528 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: stone wrong on but and maybe the audience accres with 529 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: me on this, I don't know. I feel like a 530 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: team that everyone expects to be ad, that you think 531 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: can be good and then they end up being bad 532 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: is not as embarrassing a type of wrong as a 533 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: team that a lot of people think can be really 534 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 1: good everyone thinks will be kind of good, and you're like, 535 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna stink, and then that team ends up being awesome. 536 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: That's like the most embarrassing type of wrong. And that's 537 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: what I'm staring at with Denver. I uh, but if 538 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: the Jags go to Denver and win that game, you 539 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: have to start opening up the possibility that don't know 540 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: why the Super Bowl, Yes, yeah, that don't know why 541 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: it took Trevor this long for it to click in 542 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: for him. But post Thanksgiving, he's got ten touchdowns, no picks, 543 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: they're scoring thirty five a game. He's been awesome, and 544 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: they Liam Cohen has just done an awesome job and 545 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: so and Trevor, by the way, was not playing very 546 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: well earlier in the year. They were winning earlier in 547 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: the year despite him, and so this would be obviously 548 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: just a massive, massive win. Now the flip side is this, 549 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: they lose this game, Demonse, and it becomes on the 550 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: board that the Texans run him down for the division. 551 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: So like that's the that's the other. So this is 552 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: a huge we're talking about could the playoffs go through Jacksonville? 553 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Could they be the two seed. The flip side to 554 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: all of that is, if they lose this game, the 555 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: Texans path to winning the division opens up quite a bit. 556 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: And so they did split, and it's a bad split 557 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: because the Jags beat them early and then when they 558 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: played again, that was the game the Jags were up 559 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty six nothing entering the fourth quarter against Davis Mills 560 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: and they lost that game. 561 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 3: So you know that is heavily of note. 562 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, that's a huge spot. I mean, it's 563 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: just an absolutely huge spot that because had they just 564 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: held onto that game demans, then they would be playing 565 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: this weekend to be the one seed. Right, they would 566 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: be eleven and three. Denver is sitting at twelve and two, 567 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: and then you beat Denver and get the tiebreaker and 568 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: basically lock up the one seed. So yeah, that loss 569 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 1: is brutal for them. But aside from that game, the 570 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: Jags have been what they here's what they've done since 571 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 1: that game. They beat the Chargers by twenty nine, a 572 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 1: pretty lucky, ugly overtime win against Arizona. Annihilated the Titans, 573 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 1: annihilated the Colts, annihilated the Jets. Now, if you're looking 574 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: at that, I mean, like that's a lot of bad teams, agreed. 575 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: But early in the year, they beat Houston, they beat 576 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: San Francisco, they beat Kansas City. They have the best 577 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: if such a thing exists in the NFL. They have 578 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: the best losses this year. As far as who they played, 579 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: they lost to Cincinnati in Week two when Burrow was 580 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: still there. But I guess Browning, you know, Borough got 581 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 1: hurt in that game. They lost to Seattle, they lost 582 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: to the Rams, they lost to the Texans, So they 583 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: don't have they haven't lost to any offense team. Yeah, Sonatio, 584 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: but Cincinnati was with Burrow at least he Burrow started 585 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: that game and they so this is massive spot for them. 586 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: And on the Broncos side of things, I mean, they've 587 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: just been excellent all year. I just I gotta call 588 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: it like it is, and they've just been excellent all year.