1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom HUDG. The Mueller probe is 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: poised to give us a look at what they finally got. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Do we get to see the Special Counsel's cards in 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: the days ahead, and what will it tell us about 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: the possibility of impeachment? Also in France, the carbon tax 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: has gone down. That's right, the rioters got results. We'll 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: talk about what that means for their economy and for 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: ours coming up on the Buck Sexton Show. This is 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or mission is 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence, make no 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: mistake a great American again. The Buck Sexton Show begins. Now, 12 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: welcome to the Bucks Action Show. Everybody great to have 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: you with me. Apologies, is my voice sounds a little 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: funky or cracks or breaks. I am not actually going 15 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: through puberty right now. I just have a very bad cold. 16 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: So I am gonna push through because we got work 17 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: to do. Shields high and all that good stuff We've got. 18 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: We've got some milestones in the Special Council situation to 19 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: address right now. We have some milestones, some things coming 20 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: up here that may finally be the beginning of the 21 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: end of this nightmare, which those of you who've been 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: listening to show for a while now I've I knew 23 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: it was a disaster from day one. I knew this 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: was going to turn into exactly what it is, which 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: it's a politicized witch hunt. It has been going on 26 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: for eighteen months, five hundred and sixty seven days as 27 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: of today, five hundred and sixty seven days, that's how 28 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: long this has been in the works. Thirty three people 29 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: have been charged with crime since this whole thing began, 30 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: thirteen Russian nationals, twelve intelligence officers, the number of the 31 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: number of people who so wait, see this isn't so interesting. 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: You gotta add those two up. So you got twenty 33 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: twenty five people they're putting out there as prosecuted in 34 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: this whole thing, and those are Russian Facebook trols. You know. 35 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: They're trying to create, now a dossier, if you will, 36 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: you see what I did there, a dossier to make 37 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: it seem like this whole thing has not been a 38 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: giant politicized scandal, which is really what It is a 39 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: way of weaponizing politics, of using the power of investigation 40 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: and prosecution to political scores and differences to completely undermine 41 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: the notion that both parties are treated the same way 42 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: in the eyes of the law. I know, Democrats get 43 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: away with it, Republicans don't. In fact, not only do 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: Democrats get away with it, but Republicans get in trouble 45 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: for things they didn't even do. That's the way our 46 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: justice system seems to work at the very highest level, 47 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: and that's a very damaging, very damaging perception for the 48 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: American people to have. Overall, the only people who have 49 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to this that are in Trump's orbit are 50 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, who has pleaded guilty to tax fraud and 51 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: campaign finance charges. He is now going to be finding 52 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: out how long he's been He's going to get sentenced. 53 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty tolign to 54 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the FBI. Paul Manner for Wor pleaded guilty to financial 55 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: and tact crimes, Rick Gates conspiracy related to financial crimes 56 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: and line to the FBI, Papadopoulos line to the FBI, 57 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: and then you got that guy Van der Zwan who 58 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: also lied to the FBI. Not a single charge on 59 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the American side of this whole proposition. On the American 60 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: citizens who have had to face justice or in this case, injustice, 61 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: which is really what's happened. Not a single one has 62 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: anything to do anything at all to do with colluding 63 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: with the Russians, with trying to steal an election, anything 64 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: anything that would fall into that category. And now we 65 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: have some Now we have some things that are going 66 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: to come up. We have some additional additional information that 67 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: we can expect to happen here, to get released here 68 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: in the next few days. And I think that what 69 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: you'll find, mind, is that the Flynn because you know, 70 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: you've got the Flynn sentence in coming up, You've got 71 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, Cohen his whole situation, closed door testimony with 72 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: James come although you're not gonna sank to Comey is 73 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: not going to give you anything interesting there. And then 74 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: there's all this speculation around whether or not the final 75 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: Muller Report is going to be released period, but also 76 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: going to be released in the next few weeks. And 77 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: with all of those things, with all those different realities 78 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: swirling around right now, those possibilities, I think it's important 79 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: not to lose sight of the fact that this has 80 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: been the greatest political sham, the biggest injustice perpetrated by 81 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice in my lifetime. There's nothing that 82 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: anyone can say on this, based on all the facts 83 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: we have so far, that will changed my mind. I 84 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: am certain that this is corrupt. I am certain that 85 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: this has been unfair and wrong from the start because 86 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: of the origins of this whole investigation, but also when 87 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: you see in the processes that have been conducted here 88 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: such a clear anti conservative, anti Republican bias, it's jaw dropping, 89 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: it's jaw dropping, and this is what remind This is 90 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: where you really have to get into the fact that 91 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: this is a revenge of the establishment. That's what's pushing 92 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: I know it's the Democrats and Hillary, but it's also 93 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: more than that, because you know, you had all these 94 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: former members of the Justice Department signed some letter today 95 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: saying that they they disapprove of Whittaker being the acting 96 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: Attorney General. The truth is, if you were to go 97 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: back and look at at any number of senior Department 98 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: of Justice officials, I'm sure that they they despise Trump. 99 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure they think that Trump is is, you know, 100 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: bad for all kinds of reasons. And it's because if 101 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: you've been working for the government for a long time, 102 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: and you've bought into the government as generally a positive 103 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: actor and one that is really the the shepherd of 104 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: the American people. You know, the government's not there to 105 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: protect our rights. This is one of the problems for 106 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: people who work in the bureaucracy. It's not that the 107 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: government protects our rights. It's that the government is there 108 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to make us all better, better than we would otherwise be. 109 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: But the government is there because we need guidance from 110 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: the people that know more than us, that have a 111 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: better understanding of how things really are than we do, 112 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: and are in touch with their aspirations. It is public service, 113 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: after all that they say they're doing. But whether it's 114 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Manifoort or Cohen or core see who we'll talk more 115 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: about later. None of these cases support the basic premise 116 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: of this entire investigation, which was that the President of 117 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: the United States, through intermediaries on his campaign, cheated use 118 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the Russians to get information on Hillary so that he 119 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: could win the election. None of it. It's not there. 120 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: So we're now eighteen months into this, and for what 121 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: eighteen months into this, only that we can come to 122 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: the recognition that the left is so dug in that 123 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: they'll never change their mind on this. It does not 124 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: matter what the fact pattern is, It does not matter 125 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: what they dig up here. At the very end, the 126 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Congress is just going to pick up wherever Muller leaves off, 127 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: being the Democrats are going to start running investigations. The 128 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: Democrats are going to push this thing as far as 129 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: they can because they get political mileage out of it. 130 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: There's no effort to find justice and truth in any 131 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: of this. They don't care about the lives that have 132 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: been ruined, the reputations that are destroyed. I mean, does 133 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: anyone really believe that General Flynn lied to these FBI 134 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: guys about this because he was so worried about finding 135 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: out what he had a legitimate phone call with the 136 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: Russian ambassador. There was no problem, There's no reason for 137 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: him to lie. People said, well, then Whitey lie, And 138 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, well, maybe they just are saying he lied. 139 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Maybe the people that like Muller are pushing these BS 140 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: cases are going along with these inflated prosecutions. Maybe they're liars. 141 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Oh Buck, they can't be liars, really, Why you mean? 142 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Like Deputy FBI Director then acting FBI Director Andy McCabe, 143 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: he can't lie. He lied under oath several times in 144 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: order to cover up his conduct in this whole thing. 145 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: Do you think Andy McCabe is the only one You 146 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: don't think the Komi lies? Please? You don't think that 147 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Sally Yates is just a social justice warrior in the 148 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: disguise of a boring bureaucrat. Please, this is all there 149 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: for you to see. You just have to look. And 150 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: you can't accept what they tell you to accept. You 151 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: can't just believe the stories that are being concocted, in 152 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: some cases out of thin air, like the meeting with 153 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Julian Assange and manipurth that never happened. My friends, the Guardian, 154 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: big international paper, came up with the story what was 155 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: it a week ago? Just a lie? Why would they 156 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: believe a story that's a lie? Why would they? Why 157 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: would they destroy their credibility? Oh? Because there's an international 158 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: hatred for Trump too, because of so much of the 159 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: truth that Trump represents. Because Trump is willing to say, 160 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, America is better than a lot of these 161 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: other countries, and we're not gonna bend over anymore, bend 162 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: the knee and say sure we're all the same. No, 163 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna lead. We're gonna do it our way, and 164 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: we expect the respect that we deserve other countries. I'm 165 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: them gonna like that. I do like it at all. 166 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: All right, team, We've got a lot more show coming up. 167 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: We got more on the Mueller probe, and I'm going 168 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you about these the riots and France 169 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: which have been successful in getting the gas tax. We 170 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: voked more on climate change there and then Bush forty 171 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: one and we got a jam Pack show. So stay 172 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: with me. We'll be right back. Rough day in the 173 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: markets today, my friends. I know we don't talk that 174 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: much about about the markets, and I want to get 175 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: back to the Muller probe here in just a few moments. 176 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Rough Day in the markets though, And this I want 177 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: you to pay attention to this, just because you're going 178 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to see an emboldened left here. You're going to see 179 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about Alcazio, Cortez and Warren and Sanders later 180 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: on in the show. But it's it's very hard people, 181 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: don't you know. The social justice warrior rhetoric doesn't resonate 182 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: quite the same way when unemployments at record sixty year low. 183 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: When Black of Hispanic on a employment as it is 184 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: currently in this country is that it's all time low. 185 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: When the stock market is doing incredibly well, job growth 186 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: is very strong. You know, people don't really want to 187 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: hear that much about Marxism and redistribution wealth. It's when 188 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: things get scary, It's when the left has a crisis 189 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: to exploit. That's when it's time for the rest of 190 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: us to worry. And we may be heading into that territory. 191 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of factors. And I'll tell you 192 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: one thing. One thing that you know about the economy 193 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: is that everyone who tells you they have the answer 194 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: doesn't have the answer. There's so many things that go 195 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: into this. You're talking about a vast, vast, almost chaos system. 196 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: When you're looking at the entirety of the US economy 197 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: and ties with the global economy, it's I mean, it's 198 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: probably technically not a chaos system, you know what I mean. 199 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: It's so much going on that it's very hard to 200 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: look at this and pinpoint one thing as the reason 201 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: for this. But you know, when you have the dow 202 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: drop whatever was six hundred some points today are saying 203 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: the economy is slowing down, there's some aspect of it 204 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: that's certainly cyclical. Um, there is some aspect of it 205 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: that is the result of our unwillingness, and this is 206 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: a bipartisan unwillingness to change our ways, to spend less money, 207 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: to be less involved in um, you know, less involved 208 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: in saddling future generations with debt. You know, no one 209 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: wants to do that. No one wants to touch medicare 210 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: and medicate don't. No one seems to care that we're 211 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: twenty one tillion dollars in debt, but the numbers care 212 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: and eventually this will all cutch up to us. And 213 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: eventually it could be you know, a few months from 214 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: now now. I don't think that the global economy is 215 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: going to completely tank and collapse. I think that if 216 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: you know you're you're a betting man or woman. Yeah, 217 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: America is going to be wealthier in ten years than 218 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: it is today. I think that's a fair I think 219 00:13:54,600 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a fairly certain bet to make. But what does 220 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: it look like for the Trump administration and conservatism in 221 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: this country and limited government If we have a president 222 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: who is as embattled by the media as he currently is, 223 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: with as much left wing hatred for him as we 224 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: have seen going on now for a long time. We 225 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: have all those things, and on top of that, you 226 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: have an economy that's that's in recession. I mean, that's 227 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: really talking about. This has been my concern all along 228 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: the way, that you get a far left, really destructive candidate. 229 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean someone described me in today that that, you know, 230 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. Where people don't realize is that for entrepreneurs 231 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: and businesses that weren't highly, highly entrenched and politically connected, 232 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: that Barack Obama was like an eight year waterboarding for 233 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: American capitalism, which I thought it was a pretty funny 234 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: way of describing it. But you know, the truth is 235 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: that if we have a recession, if we have this 236 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: major setback and it's gonna take a while to come 237 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: out of it, you your recession is it's gonna be painful, 238 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: and then you got to dig your way out. And 239 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: that coincides with the twenty twenty election. That's how I 240 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: think you look. I'll say it that so I think 241 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: you could end up with the President Sanders, as nuts 242 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: as that may sound, as much as we could sit 243 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: here and say, hold hold on, hold on a second, 244 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: hold on a second. You can't spend thirty four trillion 245 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: dollars on Medicare for All that you don't have. I mean, 246 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: I think if you were to cut out all all 247 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: defense spending you would manage to get Well, we're spending 248 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: basically a eight hundred eight hundred billion dollars a year 249 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: on defense. So if you're looking at let's just call 250 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: it thirty four trillion dollars of spending over a ten 251 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: year period for Medicare for all, it's essentially a complete 252 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: doubling of the federal budget for all other for all expenditures, 253 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: it doubles the federal budget. You could get rid of 254 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: all military spending. You wouldn't even put a dent in 255 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Medicare for all, not even a dent, so I mean, 256 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: I mean maybe a dent, but not you can get 257 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: not even close to paying for it, I mean a 258 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: fraction of it. So how do you get a politician 259 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: who's going to come into office and when when the 260 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: numbers don't add up, When when there's clearly no way 261 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: for anybody with a calculator and a basic grasp of 262 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: facts and say yeah, they're policy works with the way 263 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: you do it, the way you make it all happen 264 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: is you you prey upon people's fears. You prey upon 265 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: their concerns that the dollar is crashing, that they're not 266 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: going to have a job, that their their industry is 267 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: going away, and they're not gonna be able to feed 268 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: their families. And you say, I'll save you. I'll come along. 269 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I'll be the one who Just give me more control, 270 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Just give me more power over finances in this country, 271 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: over everything, over the law, over the economy. And I'm worried. 272 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I think we have a confluence of factors here that 273 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty, and we're already there. We're already 274 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the twenty twenty ramp all right, 275 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: the ramping up is happening now. I were that as 276 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: we get closer to that, what we're going to see 277 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: is that the economy starts to go bad and the 278 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: radicals on the left will be ascendant. Trump will just 279 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: be completely under siege, and we could end up having 280 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: a aneleectoral disaster befall us in twenty twenty one that 281 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: would make unfortunately Trump's miraculous win. I feel like a 282 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: distant memory, but I got to talk to you about 283 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Jerome Corsi in the Special Council I don't want to 284 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: skip past that's that's coming up here in just a moment. 285 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: Stay with me. The key thing was that they wanted 286 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: me to be the key link between. It was going 287 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: to be Roger Stone to me to Julian Assage, and 288 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: then they'd have all their collusion together. It would be 289 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: Roger Stone to Steve Bannon to Donald Trump and coordination 290 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: with Assage. Except I figured out on my own Assange 291 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: had Podesta's emails. I never have met Assange. I've never 292 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: talked to Assange or emailed him, and I have no 293 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: contact with anyone who is in touch with Assange. And 294 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: the prosecutors refused to believe this, so it led to 295 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: grilling after grilling after grilling. You know, there's Jerome Corsi 296 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: just saying that the prosecutors, the Mueller probe, you know, 297 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: they they have a very clear agenda. And I think 298 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: we all know that that's been true from the start. 299 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: But remember the prosecutors. We've come to accept that prosecutors 300 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: are trying to get to a certain outcome in this case, 301 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: they are trying to prove that Trump colluded with Russia. 302 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: And what he's saying, what Corsi's saying here is that 303 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: it's very obvious in his dealings with them that that's 304 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: they're they're going after him now on a minor not 305 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: even really a lie, a misremember ring of something that 306 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: is not important, and that they that they already knew 307 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: or remember that too. He lied about fording an email. 308 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: They had all his emails, That's how they knew he lied. 309 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: So they already knew that he was in contact with somebody. 310 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: So why would he lie? And I don't mean that, 311 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: why would he lie? There must be something more there. 312 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying clearly it's an error, a good faith there 313 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: or not a you know, he wasn't going to get 314 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: away with it. I mean if somebody, you know, if 315 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: I sit down with the police and they say, all right, 316 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: we've got your phone records in our hand, who did 317 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: you call last week? Name everybody you called last week? 318 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: And I named, you know, seven of the eight people. 319 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: I didn't leave off that eighth person because I think 320 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, you know, managed to drop that 321 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: one off the radar. I just didn't remember, right, That's 322 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: effectively what they did to Corsi. But but the more 323 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: important point here is that he knows from having to 324 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: deal with them that they're trying to get to a 325 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: certain now that they're trying to prove that something happened, 326 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: even though as any prosecutor, as any investigator will tell you, remember, 327 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: as a special prosecutor, they're investigating something. They're supposed to 328 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: be investigators. If the facts lead them away from the 329 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: conclusion that a crime was committed, that's really important too, 330 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's the cases that you don't bring, 331 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: that you don't prosecute, that you step away from as 332 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: a prosecutor that really defined your judgment and your ability 333 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: to get justice for people you're not supposed to say, Oh, well, 334 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, I was told to get this guy, so 335 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get him. And it is very clear 336 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: to me from what we've seen so far that this 337 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: is all that the end state here has already been determined. 338 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: Trump did something bad. That's what Muller thinks, or rather 339 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: that's what Muller wants to show, whether it happened or not. 340 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: That's he wants to take Trump down for doing the 341 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: bad thing. And every step that Muller takes in the intern, 342 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: he's meant to create that perception and make that the reality. 343 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: It's not Oh, you know what, we don't have the 344 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: information that we thought we would here. Maybe we should 345 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: step away from this. Maybe this actually didn't happen the way. No, 346 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: they're always just coming back with another version. But by 347 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: the way, you know, this reminds me of the Durst 348 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: said this to me on my show. First, I'm just saying, 349 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: and then later he went on to say it on 350 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: some other shows. I think this was him on Fox. 351 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: This is what Dursh feels about this Coursi situation playclip eight. 352 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: In fifty five years of practicing criminal law, I have 353 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: never heard or read of any case where a person 354 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: was allowed to amend his testimony and then corrected it 355 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: and was then threatened with indictment for the unamended original 356 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: alleged lie. That just seems utterly unprecedented. If those facts 357 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: are correct, I think he would have a very defensible 358 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: case and it would have a pretty good chance of winning, 359 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and probably would be why it's not necessarily to capitulate 360 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: to the threats of prosecution. Isn't that interesting here? You 361 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: have whatever you think of him in his politics. Dersh 362 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: the Dirsh is a seasoned, seasoned attorney and a very 363 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: sharp legal mind. And he's saying, of course he should 364 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: stand stand tall on this one, assuming the fact pattern is. 365 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Of course he says it is. And look, I know 366 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: people said, of course he's a conspiracy theorist. Whatever. He's 367 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: a smart guy. You know this is no, we're not 368 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: dealing with Alex Jones here, even though I know he 369 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: works with Alex Jones. Of course, he strikes me as 370 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: a pretty sharp individual, meaning that you know, his synapses 371 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: fire pretty quickly upstairs. And you know, this could be 372 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: a real stumma black. I mean, can you imagine for 373 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: a second he refuses to take this, you know, they 374 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: say they're gonna charge, and refuses to take the day 375 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: he refuses to flip? What if he beats it? What 376 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: if Corsi And I know this is a little bit 377 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: of supposition right now, and who knows, but imagine for 378 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: a moment that the guy who's like working at info 379 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Wars and all and and has this long history with 380 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: the he actually got into an exchange with with Jamal 381 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: from from Hill TV works with me. Jamal's a Democrat, 382 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: great guy, He's a Democrat. Uh, And they got an 383 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: exchange about the Obama birth certificate that just got that 384 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: just got fiery because course he really does believe or 385 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: at least says he believes that the birth certificate that 386 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: we've never seen the original, you know, and I see that, 387 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, just anything, anything but the 388 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: birth certificate discussion. I was, I was stuck on TV 389 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: for that one. Um. But you know, you can, you 390 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: can bring up all those issues. But that guy Corsi 391 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: may be the first one who stands up to the 392 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Mueller machine and wins. And what would that say? What 393 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: would that tell you if in fact he fights this 394 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: and we because you let me answer the question, what 395 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: that would show you is that, sure enough, this is 396 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: just about perjury trap. Sure enough, this whole thing has 397 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: been find people, find a way to twist the law, 398 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: to put them in criminal jeopardy, to threaten to lock 399 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: them up unless they tell you everything they know about everything. 400 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: And Dersch also said that, by the way play nine, 401 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: the modus operandi of the Special Council is to get 402 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: as many people as possible to commit perjury or to lie, 403 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: and then squeeze them and use pressure on them to 404 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: have them testify against the major targets of the investigation. 405 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: And what Judge Ella said appropriately. Is the risk of 406 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: that is not only will some people sing, but they 407 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: will compose, they will elaborate, they will tell the story 408 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: even better because they know that the better the story, 409 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: the better the deal. That's right, And here's what everyone 410 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: really needs to remember. Here's what you won't hear from 411 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: anyone else. But I can see this one coming with Corsi. 412 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: What they want isn't necessarily for him to give the 413 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: smoking gun of Russia Trump collusion that is a criminal issue. 414 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: All they need is Corsi to go on the record 415 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: for having been part of some murky effort to get 416 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: in touch with Wiki leaks to get this information. And 417 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: then what they have and what they will release in 418 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: the final Special Council report is the politically fatal accusation 419 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: of collusion that should be impeached, not collusion that should 420 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: be prosecuted. That's what they're trying to get from Corsi 421 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: volunteering to serve in World War Two, as I was 422 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: going on to service as ambassador CIA to Congressman, vice 423 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: president president, a whole life of public service. Donald Trup 424 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: has been a life of service to himself. They both 425 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: believe that the presidency is bigger than themselves, which is 426 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: not something that this president always adheres to. But I 427 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: think this is also a twenty four hours of nostalgia 428 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: about what leadership used to look like in this country. 429 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: There's a great clip from nineteen eighty when George H. W. 430 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: Bush is challenged on how tough he is, and he 431 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: talks about toughness is about having values and standing for them, 432 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: being principles. Toughness is not attacking. He understood that the 433 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: press wasn't the enemy of the people and even said basically, 434 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're all in this together, 435 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: and I will be here for you, just like I 436 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: know you would be here for me. What a remarkable 437 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: difference between nineteen eighty eight and twenty eighteen. At a 438 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of kind of back handid praise for Bush forty 439 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: one from the media establishment, you know, a lot of well, 440 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: we'll put aside the things that we disagree with them 441 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: on just so we can bash Trump. You know, there's 442 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: just there's there's all this dishonesty around around the conversation. 443 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: I would say this to you, I mean, their favorite, 444 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: the media's favorite thing about Bush forty one is that 445 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: he was a one term Republican president. Let's start with that. 446 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: That is their number one favorite thing is that maybe 447 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: if he were more of a political pugilist, if he 448 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: wasn't so gentlemanly in his approach, he might have won 449 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: a second term. Ohoh, you know, look, it's would it 450 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: could have showed a who really knows. But you know, 451 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: the Bush Bush forty one, when he was in office, 452 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: they were saying that he was a warmonger. Uh you know, 453 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: no blood for oil. I mean, these were all the 454 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: things that you would hear about at the time. And 455 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: now you know, some of those same voices are coming 456 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: out to say, well, let's just take this as an 457 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: opportunity to bash to bash Trump, and like Trump went, 458 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Trump is he's appearing at the funeral. You know, I 459 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: think he's handled this. I think he's handled this well. 460 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: I also think that the country's you know, fascination with 461 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: every minute of the remembrance in the aftermath of a 462 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: president's life. It's interesting, it does feel, and I have 463 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Push forty one. Now, I 464 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: never met him. I obviously met his son a couple 465 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: of times when I was at the CIA and gave 466 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: him some briefings. I never met Bush forty one. But 467 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I am just gonna say that the pomp and circumstance 468 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: around Maybe this is just from the media coverage angle 469 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: of it, right, like the guy should have a safety, 470 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: but the pomp and circumstance of some of this, it 471 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: does start to feel a little bit like we have 472 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: a you know, this is like the king, and I 473 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: mean this in a in a monarchical sense, right that 474 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: the monarchy has lost one of its own. You know, 475 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: there's there are there are limits, So I think to 476 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: what good taste and and prudence dictate for how much 477 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: time and how much that you know, the country should 478 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: have to focus on the passing of a future president. 479 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we've passed those limits whom, just saying, 480 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, we need to be aware of it. I 481 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of and this ties into a 482 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: bigger conversation than I always want to have, which is 483 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that we should I don't think that 484 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: we should call former members of government by there. You know, 485 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that you should still be Speaker when 486 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: you were Speak of the House and art anymore. I 487 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: don't think you should be called ambassador even when you're 488 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: no longer ambassador. I don't think, you know, any government 489 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: appointed title. I don't think you carry that with you 490 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: the rest of your life. And I start to see 491 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: some of this, some aspects of an entrenched political political 492 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: class here that really does feel I mean, how different 493 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: is is it really from you know, the court of 494 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: King Louis or whatever. There's a you know, the whole 495 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: nation is supposed to look. I mean, did anybody who 496 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: served under under a president or had personal contact with 497 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: the president. People can feel however they want about this, 498 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: but if I knew the man, obviously I'd have a 499 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: particular connection to it. I just think that the expectation, 500 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: the expectation for a kind of national not just national mourning, 501 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: but also adulation whenever a politician, which is quite honestly 502 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about, passes away. It just I'm just saying, 503 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I think we should be aware so that it does 504 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: not carry over into a sense of, you know, we 505 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: are celebrating our our our what's the you know, our 506 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: our perman not just a permanent political class, but celebrating nobility. 507 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: That's that's you know, We're not there with Brush forty 508 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: one because he's a Republican. But I'm telling you, you wait, 509 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: until you know, the media has a Democrat president who 510 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: passes away. I remember, and this is also the good 511 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: thing here is you got Bush forty one, a life 512 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: incredibly well lived and and you know, incredible service. I mean, 513 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, the guy died of old age. He had 514 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: done it all, man, I mean, he had done it all. 515 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: So as much as as much as a funeral can 516 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: be a celebration of someone's life, I think Bush forty 517 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: ones is. But I just noticed that there's this, you know, 518 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, everybody, it feels a little bit like there's 519 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: almost a forced reverence around this, which and I mean 520 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: for those of us who are walking around just going 521 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: about our day to day lives, you know, every time 522 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: we open a newspaper and everything else, this is the 523 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: This is the main, the main focus. And there's a 524 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: lot of stuff still going on in the world. There 525 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: are a lot of things happening here, a lot of concerns, 526 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: a lot of problems. We're going pretty deep into. Okay, 527 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: let's let's not have our third twenty four hour news 528 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: cycle where the main thing we're talking about is the 529 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, the I don't know, the sort of circumstances 530 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: and ceremonies surrounding the passing of a former of a 531 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: former president. I know that maybe maybe I'm off on 532 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: my own this one. I just, you know, I don't 533 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't like titles of nobility for people that served. 534 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: And this is separate from the Bush conversation, but I 535 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: don't like titles of nobility. I don't like people that 536 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: walk around are still called congressman when they're not a congressman. 537 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: You know that, no, we we should not have that. 538 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: And also, you know, the passing of George H. W. 539 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Bush Is is deeply sad for his family members and 540 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: for his friends and people who knew him the way 541 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: it would be. But that's true of anyone who passes away, right, 542 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know that the rest of the country 543 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: should should be told that we have to feel anyway 544 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: about this other than you know, being respectful. And I 545 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: just it's also I'm somebody who the few funerals, Thank Heavens, 546 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I've been to very few. The few funerals I've been to, 547 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm never you know, I never really know what to 548 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: say at them, to anybody. And I know, I know 549 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: this is a common thing. A lot of people feel 550 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: that way, But at a Bush at this funeral though, 551 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: at bushy once funeral, I think it'd be pretty easy. 552 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: This guy served his country and led a great life 553 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: and was incredible what he contributed, and you may rest 554 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: in peace and be with God and the angels. Um. 555 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: That's my take. But then there's there's Nicole Wallace over 556 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: at speaking of the forest reverence. She's talking about how 557 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: uh you know, the Bush motorcade was actually arriving on 558 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill and and at that very moment, here's what 559 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: Nicole Wallace of MSNBC, so you got you gotta imagine 560 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: on the screen you have the funeral motorcade arriving on 561 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill, and then Nicole Wallace has a following play eleven. 562 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: I think what everyone's getting at is that under Donald Trump, 563 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: the office of the presidency has been debased in a 564 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: way that is unimaginable for people who served every past president. 565 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: I think what's lost in this moment is our reverence 566 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: and our dependence and our and the way we need 567 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: and rely upon the elegance and the traditions of the 568 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: presidency and the elegance the elegance of the presidency. Did 569 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: we did we have the elegance of the presidency during 570 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: the Clinton years. Did we have a president who was 571 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: a model of upstanding and upright behavior for eight years 572 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: with Clinton? I just did the select the selectivity here 573 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: of what parts of Trump at his persona we we 574 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: pick on and what we leave out from from Democrats. 575 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: I mean, everything feels like a partisan battle these days. 576 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: Even when describing aspects of the presidency that you think 577 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: would be nonpartisan, they somehow turn it into a commentary 578 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: on Trump. Everything now has to be a commentary on Trump. 579 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: It's really disturbing. But you know, even Bush's funeral, they're 580 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: politicizing it. Snippy dot Com, that's right by now you've 581 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: probably heard talk about at Snippy dot com is a 582 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: new social media site out there, and thousands of my 583 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: listeners have already joined Snippy. They're expressing their opinions, they're 584 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: having a great time chatting each other up there. 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It's the states in the cities. 602 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: It's local governments that control seventy percent of our emissions. 603 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: The United States is still in. Yes, we have a 604 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: machuregunate leader in Washington that is not in, that is out. 605 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: But remember that America is more than just Washington, no 606 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: one leader. I wish that it could be the terminator 607 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: in real life, to be able to travel back on 608 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: time and to stop all faster fuels when they were discovered. 609 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: Be the terminator, go back and say stop driving your cause, 610 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: stop all your economic progress, stop spewing the field two 611 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: in the air. That would be the worst action movie ever. 612 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: What are you doing with all your economic progress? You're 613 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: ont realized nation. You have to stop it. Schwarzenegger was 614 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: at a what was this now in the southern Polish 615 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: city of Cadavis. I don't know how you say that, 616 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: where you had thousands of international decision makers holding their 617 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: holding negotiations at a UN climate conference known as COP 618 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: twenty four. I've got, oh my gosh, I've got so 619 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: many thoughts on this. One of them one is the following. 620 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: These climate change conferences are are really a kind of 621 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: internationalist subculture under themselves. All these people get to show 622 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: up somebody else's is generally footing the bill, right, a 623 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: lot of different governments and NGOs, And if you will 624 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: get to show up at these conferences, they all get 625 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: to feel very important and they get they get to 626 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,800 Speaker 1: pretend like they're part of saving the world. And I 627 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: don't mean that in exaggerated, in an exaggerated form. I 628 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: mean they actually think that they are part of saving 629 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: the world. And they will bear no consequences of ault 630 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: of these They will suffer not at all. And so 631 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: that's why who wouldn't want to be a part of this. Right, 632 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: Once you get in, once you get in good with 633 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: this climate change crowd, you get to go to the conferences, 634 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: probably fly on some fancy private jets to get there, 635 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: and you know that what Trump is I'm sorry what 636 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger was saying about Trump. Schwarzenegger was saying that, you know, 637 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: maybe the president is out, but all the local and 638 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: state governments are in. This just goes to show you, 639 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, who cares? Who cares? What you know, Vermont 640 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: thinks about climate change? Who cares? Even in California thinks 641 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: about climate change other than the residents who live there. 642 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: I have to who have to deal with the crappy 643 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: policies that will come out of all of this. But 644 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the difference that it can make to 645 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: the problems such as such as it is or in 646 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: my estimation as it isn't they're not even putting a 647 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: dent in this. You know, there's just no sense of 648 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: perspective or context with these climate angel armist you know, 649 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: I mean, here, here's a way to a good way 650 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: to describe this. I think, you know, microbiology, I believe 651 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: in microbiology. Microbiology is real germs are real, viruses, bacteria, 652 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff that's all real. Now, I live in 653 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: a world surrounded by viruses and bacteria and any and 654 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: I'm one of them has invaded my nostrils in my 655 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: throat right now. And that's why I sound weird and 656 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm having a little bit of a tough time today 657 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: speaking because I'm sick. But you know, the reality for 658 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: me is that I'm not going to sit around and 659 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: be super worried about possibly, you know, getting some terrible pathogen, 660 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: because while that could happen, I think it's unlikely enough 661 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to worry about it now. When 662 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: you look at that most recent climate change report, the 663 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, which is very unlikely, is so far off, 664 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: and I would argue so manageable that to spend any 665 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: time at all now worrying about it is similar to say, 666 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: walking around saying, oh my gosh, I need to wear 667 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: surgical gloves and a mask all the time because there 668 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: are germs everywhere and if I don't, I'm gonna die. 669 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: That it is true that if you don't walk around 670 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: with surgical mask and gloves constantly, you are at a 671 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: slightly greater risk of picking up an infection and you 672 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: could die from that infection. How many of you worry 673 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: about that? I'm guessing you know, one or two you're 674 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: right now are like taking off slowly, taking off your 675 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: gloves and mask. But I'm guessing most of you who 676 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: are saying, yeah, that's it's not something that a normal 677 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: person would do. The risk profile just isn't high enough. 678 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't justify those precautionary measures. Well, what we see 679 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: now is that with climate change, they say do you 680 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: believe in climate change? It's like saying do you believe 681 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: in microbiology? Yeah, I believe that the climate has change. 682 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: Of course I do. I just don't worry about it. 683 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's nearly as big of a problem, 684 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: if a problem at all, as these other people who 685 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: have bought into this idea. And it's an idea that 686 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: I would note gives a tremendous amount of latitude for 687 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: the redistribution of wealth via the government, for the redistribution 688 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: of wealth from the first world the developing world, from 689 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: you know, America to third world countries and Europe to 690 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: third world countries. You know, that's all. There's a lot 691 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: of other goodies that are thrown into this as well 692 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: as you know, you get to go to these for 693 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 1: some people, you get to go to these climate change conferences. 694 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: If you're Al Gore, you get to make ridiculous movies 695 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: that a lot of very credulous people go to see 696 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: and think are really important. And then they realize that 697 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: everything he said in the movie was wrong. But oh, 698 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll make another one. And this is why 699 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: this revolt by the Yellowjackets the Gila jan in France 700 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: is I think resonating with so many Americans, and that's 701 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: why they've backed off. I mean, the big news today 702 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: was that there, you know, the French government isn't going 703 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: to put these gas tax in place because the people 704 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: are so angry about it, and they realize that the 705 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: French people overall aren't supportive of this, and it's like, yeah, 706 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: and understand that this is just because it's a tax 707 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: on something that people feel and understand and know. And 708 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: the problem that, you know, from the climate changer's perspective, 709 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: the problem that they run into is that what they 710 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: need to do is what they usually do, is make 711 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: sure that the costs of combatant climate change are hidden, 712 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: make sure that the downside of these policies is so 713 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: spread out in the broader economy that individuals can't get 714 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: to that critical mass of anger that they will be 715 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: mobilized and then do something and mobilized to do something 716 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: about this. That's the mistake they made with this gas tax, 717 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: because people go to the gas, to go to a 718 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: gas tang where they're already paying over six dollars and 719 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: now they're gonna be paying you know, six dollars thirty 720 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: cents that equivalent, I know it would be in euros. 721 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: But they say, you know what, this is crazy, what 722 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm paying this money for what? You know? I mean, 723 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, turned down for what they probably ask themselves, 724 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: although maybe not I don't even know what turned down 725 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: for what means, but it's fun to say. So they're 726 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: at the you know, they're at the pump, and they 727 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: understand that people talk about in this country, you know, 728 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: the pain at the pump. I mean, how much do 729 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: you pay? You know, in this we're paying to something 730 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: a gallon for gas. Imagine of all of a sudden 731 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: to Phillip a tank of gas for your car and 732 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: you had to commute every day because a lot of 733 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: in these French cities the cities are not too expensive, 734 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: so people have to come from a pretty far away 735 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: and I'm so many I am very sympathetic this. I 736 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: hate commuting, I hate having to travel. Listens to where 737 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: it just strikes me, as you know, it's a huge 738 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: waste enough time, and it really costs you, you know, 739 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: a piece of your life you never get back. Imagine 740 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: you're driving an hour and a half each way and 741 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,239 Speaker 1: you're paying three times as much. You'd be pretty upset too. 742 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,879 Speaker 1: But once this is the achilles heel of climate change alarmism, 743 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: is when the policies are no longer theoretical and the 744 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: pain is made real. That's when all of a sudden 745 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: you have people that step back and say, hold on 746 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: a second, how certain are we about these different measurements. 747 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: How clear is it really that if we don't take 748 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: these drastic actions, terrible, awful, horrible things are going to 749 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: befall this country. Because if the answer is, you know, 750 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: one in a hundred, I think I'm going to ride 751 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: this out. I think I'm gonna let the system that 752 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: we have by and large in the developed world, capitalism, 753 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: private property rights, rule of law. I'm going to keep 754 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: riding with that, which has elevated more people out of 755 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: poverty in the last hundred years, then we're are lifted 756 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: out of poverty in all of human history before it. 757 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ride out this whole capital thing and not 758 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: allow the status hysteria of climate change lunacy to take over, 759 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: you know. I mean I also just on on a 760 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 1: person a personal level, whenever talked to my liberal friends 761 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: about this, and some of them, really they look at 762 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: me like they have discovered some zoo animal when I 763 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: tell them that, because they the ones who know me, 764 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: know that I somebody who reads a lot of books, 765 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: and I you know, I enjoy learning new things that 766 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: I try to be open minded about different ideas and arguments. 767 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: They for some reason they know I'm rock solid conservative 768 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: on all this other stuff. But I think they say, 769 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: blah blah, raise Catholic and you know, look at his parents, 770 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: they're conservative or you know they have some but on 771 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: climate change, they figure, well, you can't really not be 772 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: a believer in that whole thing. And when I look 773 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: at them and I say, not on my a not 774 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: a believer? Why why do you think I don't believe? 775 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,720 Speaker 1: And when I'm always fascinated to buy is they assume 776 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: it's ignorance. And I sit there and say, I've read 777 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 1: the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports from the UN 778 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: stretching back for years. I've read I don't even know 779 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 1: how many hundreds, maybe not even going into the thousands 780 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: of different opinion articles, editorials, new stories on climate change. 781 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: Why is it that they think that I'm not worried 782 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: about this because i don't care about the world ending, 783 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: because I'm so in the pocket of big oil, which 784 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: has never given me a dollar that you know, this 785 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: is what It doesn't make any sense, does it. What 786 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: data realize is they have a religious belief. And this 787 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: always brings me back to because that's what climate change is, 788 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: the religious belief. And this brings me back to one 789 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: of the great great things we say here on the show, 790 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: which is that climate change is a religious belief for 791 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,840 Speaker 1: people who think they are too smart for religion, and 792 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,720 Speaker 1: they're wrong. If you want to get into the Christmas 793 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: spirit and drink some delicious coffee while you're doing it, 794 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: I've got an idea. Get yourself some Black Rifle coffee 795 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: and hook somebody else up in your life with a 796 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee subscription. I'm a subscriber. I get my 797 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: coffee delivered every month, and that is what I drink. 798 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: First thing I do when I go into the hill 799 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: every day. People know, they make fun of me. This 800 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 1: is my routine. I go straight back to my office, 801 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: I grab my black Rifle, take that K cup, throw 802 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,439 Speaker 1: it in the machine, and I'm drinking one hundred percent 803 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: pure delicious freedom courtesy of my friends at Black Rifle Coffee. 804 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: All right. It is the best tasting, most energizing, veteran, 805 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: helping first responder assisting coffee. You can get Black Rifle 806 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,399 Speaker 1: Coffee is the gift that keeps on giving. Visit Black 807 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: Riflecoffee dot com, slash buck and receive fifteen percent off 808 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: your order. That's Black Riflecoffee dot com, slash buck for 809 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: fifteen percent off again one more time, Black Riflecoffee dot com, 810 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: slash buck. These violations of the ion f Treaty cannot 811 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: be viewed in isolation from the larger path of Russian 812 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,240 Speaker 1: lawlessness on the world stage. The list of Russia's infamous 813 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: acts is long. Georgia, Ukraine, Syria, election, Medai, scir Paul, 814 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: and now the kirch Strake, to name just a few. 815 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: In a light of these facts, the United States today 816 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: declares it has found Russia in material breach of the 817 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: treaty and we'll suspend our obligations as a remedy effective 818 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: in sixty days unless Russia returns to full and verifiable compliance. 819 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: Drawn a line in the sands here, Secretary of State 820 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: Pompeio saying that the US within sixty days better see 821 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: Russia start to do what it says it will do 822 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: under a treaty called the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty 823 00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: ion F treaty. Pompeio saying, look, you guys are coming 824 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: too compliance or we're stepping out of this treaty, which 825 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: means that we can start developing things that we know 826 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: said we wouldn't, and it means that you know there's 827 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: going to be consequences for Russian perceptions of its own security. 828 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: As a result of this, Russia has developed multiple battalions 829 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: of SSC eight missiles, according to Pompeo, which falls out, 830 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: which puts them in violation of this treaty that goes 831 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: back to the Cold War, and it means that it's 832 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: these are a direct menace to Europe and this is 833 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: a way of directly threatening NATO and NATO allies, that 834 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: our NATO allies in Europe, and you know, this is 835 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: the undermines trust between US and the Russians such as 836 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, not that we trust the Russians 837 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: all that much, but you know, there's a very it's 838 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: a bold statement from Pompeo today. It's a clear statement, 839 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think everybody knows, unlike with the Obama administration, 840 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,760 Speaker 1: when this administration, when Secretary is State Pompeo, when President 841 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: Trump draws a red line, guess what that red line's 842 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: going to be enforced. There's not going to be some 843 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 1: erasing of it. They're not going to say, oh, just kidding, 844 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: and you know no, They're going to make sure that 845 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: the Russians fall into compliance or suffer the consequences. And 846 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: then it just also brings me to you know what, 847 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: one of the storylines that's out there that just annoys 848 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: me to no end, and that is that Trump is 849 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:30,799 Speaker 1: soft on Russia. Trump maybe has a certain personal affinity 850 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: for the character that's in his head of who Putin is. 851 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: But the Trump administration's policies matter a whole lot more. 852 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: And the Trump administration on when it comes to policy 853 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: is strong on Russia more so than his predecessor was 854 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 1: not even close. Really, Obama's whole hot mic moment with 855 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 1: Medvedev where you know, I will I'll have more flexibility 856 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: after my election. You know, Obama was always trying to 857 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: appease everybody, including Russians. Obama was the appeaser in chief. 858 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: And now you're always hearing about how Trump is so 859 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: in bed with the Russians. Well, here's what Trump's secretary 860 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,320 Speaker 1: of State says about Russia on the world stage in 861 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: front of countless members of the international press. Play clip two. 862 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: Russia has an embraced Western values of freedom and international cooperation. Rather, 863 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: it has suppressed opposition voices and invaded the sovereign nations 864 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: of Georgia and of Ukraine. Moscow is also deployed a 865 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: military grade nerve age and on foreign soil right here 866 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: in Europe, in violation the Chemical Weapons Convention to which 867 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: it is a party. Russia has violated the Intermediate Range 868 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: Nuclear Forces Treaty for many years. The list goes on, 869 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,720 Speaker 1: we have to account for the world order of today 870 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: in order to chart the way forward. Russia has not 871 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: embraced rest and values, he says, suppress his opposition voices 872 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: invade sovereign nation. I mean, he is calling Russia out 873 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 1: in clear and in unambiguous terms. And oh, by the way, 874 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,759 Speaker 1: we've also sent more lethal assistance than the Obama administration 875 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: did to Ukraine, which is the single biggest military concern 876 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,240 Speaker 1: right now for the Russian government. We've sent naval trainers, 877 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: We've sent people to Ukraine to assist in all kinds 878 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: of military operations and you know, to provide them with 879 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 1: the training and the know how so that they can 880 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: really fight back effectively against the Russians. Right now, the 881 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: big problems that the Ukrainians have, and you see this 882 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 1: in the kurt Straight crisis, is that the Russians have 883 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: them completely outmatched when it comes to their air force 884 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: at navy. I mean, the Russian navy and air force 885 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: just dwarf what the Ukrainians can put out there. Remember, 886 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean for the Ukrainians, there's something very bitter sweet 887 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: about this whole thing. And I'm sorry, not bittersweet, bitter, 888 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: no sweetens very bitter about this whole thing because you know, 889 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: they had at one point a very large nuclear arsenal 890 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: after the fall of the Soviet Union, and they as 891 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: part of the agreement that they had with the with 892 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: the Budapest Memorandum where we agreed the Budapest Memorandum on 893 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: Security assistants. We agreed along with the UK and yes, Russia, 894 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: to protect their national integrity, their sovereignty if they gave 895 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: up their nuclear weapons. Russia gave up their nukes and 896 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm sorry, Ukraine gave up their nukes and 897 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: guess what now it's being picked apart by the Russians. 898 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,880 Speaker 1: We are not really holding up our end of the 899 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: deal with the Budapest memory of him. Now, I don't 900 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: think we should go to war with the Russia over Ukraine, honestly, 901 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: under any circumstances, So start with that, but we certainly 902 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: can give them assistance and provide them with help to 903 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: make it harder for Russia to just piece by peace, 904 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: pull the country apart and consume it, which is really 905 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: what the Russian plan is here. So you know, I 906 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: just get frustrated with this because we keep hearing about 907 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 1: how Trump and Putin, Trump and Putin, I mean, this 908 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: has become an obsessional left and I just I just 909 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 1: don't think it's I just don't think it's reflective of reality. 910 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: I think it's something that liberals like to say. They 911 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: think they sound smart when they say it. They get 912 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: a kick out of, you know, pushing this issue in 913 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: front of you know, in conservative faces all the time. 914 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: But when you look at policy and you look at 915 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 1: what is really moving the needle, you know, the Trump administration, 916 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: it's just a more muscular administration in every sense. It's 917 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: just less willing to be deferential. It's less willing to 918 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: go along to get along. And that that's what, at 919 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: least certainly what I think America should be. You know, 920 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: we should lead you A leadership doesn't mean what's the consensus. 921 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: I'll do that on the world stage or on any 922 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: stage for that matter. This is the very definition of 923 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: the deep state. The deep state is that the intelligence 924 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: agencies do things, conclude things, make conclusions, but then the 925 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: elected officials are prevented from knowing about this. So if 926 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: we aren't told about this, if I'm not allowed to 927 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: know about these conclusions, then I can't have oversight. And 928 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 1: so then the state grows. The intelligence the deep state 929 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 1: grows and has more and more power. So I've read 930 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: in the media that the CIA has said with high 931 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: competence that the Crown Prince was involved with killing Kashogi. 932 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: I have not seen that intelligence nor I've even seen 933 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: the conclusions. And today there's yet another briefing and I'm 934 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: being excluded from that. So really, this is the deep 935 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: state at work that your representatives don't know what is 936 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: going on in the intelligence state. So that was last 937 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: week Senator round Paul obviously very upset about the fact 938 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: that he didn't feel like he was getting full access 939 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: to the intelligence, the information involving because involving Nbas Moham 940 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: had been almond in the Kashogi murder. And so sure enough, 941 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: even though we remember we heard from Madison Pompeo last 942 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 1: week on this when they saw everything, and I think 943 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I think a lot of journalists don't 944 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: realize that the Secretary of Defense, if he wants to 945 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: see something, the CIA shows it to him. There's no 946 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: there's no oh sorry, sorry, guy who runs the US military, 947 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: person in charge of the Pentagon. That's too sensitive for you. 948 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: That that does not exist. That is not a thing. 949 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: And true also of the Secretary of State. Um but 950 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: Madison Pompeo sect deaf and sec state. They had this 951 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560 Speaker 1: to say about this just this as a refresher before 952 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: we get into the latest to day on This is 953 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 1: what Maddison and Pompeo said last week. Play for we 954 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: have no smoking gun that the Crown Prince was involved, 955 00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: not the Intelligent Community or anyone Else's no smoke gun. 956 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: There is no direct reporting connecting Prince to the Order 957 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: and murders offer. That's all I can say. No direct 958 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: information connecting him to Kashogi's murder. That's what they said. Today. 959 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham comes out of briefing with Gina Haspell, the 960 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: CIA director, who looks like the world's most unassuming librarian. 961 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: For those of you who for those of you who 962 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: don't understand, this is when people say me, look, you 963 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: were in the CIA. You don't look like you're in 964 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: the CIA. I'm like, why, because I don't have, you know, 965 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: a pocket protector and wander the hallways muttering to myself 966 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,160 Speaker 1: in a in an ill fitted button up sweater, because 967 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 1: that's that's what you generally, that's what you generally get 968 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: at the CIA. Think mad Professor, not James Bond, and 969 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: you'll be much closer to the archetype of what of 970 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: what a CIA? You know bureaucrat is like anyway. Um, 971 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: but Lindsey Graham came out of the Haspell briefing today 972 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: and here's And I knew Lindsay was gonna say this 973 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: because you know, he's he's really strutting his stuff, you know, 974 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: letting his feathers kind of flutter or I don't know 975 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 1: if that's really a thing. You know what I'm saying, 976 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham, He's walking around with his chest pumped up 977 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: after his puffed out gosh, I am, My metaphors are 978 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 1: getting mixed. I'm terrible of this today. After yes, he 979 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 1: saved the Kavanaugh hearing in parts, so yes, I and 980 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: I kind of will forever love Lindsay for that. But 981 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 1: I think he's pushing this koshogi thing a little bit 982 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 1: too far. Play five. I went into the briefing believing 983 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: it was virtually impossible for an operation like this to 984 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 1: be carried out without the Crown Prince's knowledge. I left 985 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: the briefing with high confidence that my initial assessment of 986 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: the situation is correct. Here's my takeaway that Saudi Arabia's 987 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: a strategic ally and the relationship is worth saving, but 988 00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: not at all costs. We'll do more damage star standing 989 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: in the world and our national security by ignoring MBS 990 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: than dealing with him. MBS, the Crown Prince is a 991 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: wrecking ball. I think he's complicit in the murder of 992 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: mister Katshogi to the highest level possible. You know, I 993 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: don't want to overly parse that was from today. I 994 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: don't want to overly pars Lindsay's words. But complicit or 995 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: responsible for you know, complicit means you know, you're you, 996 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: you bear some responsibility. Did he give the order or not? 997 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, did he order the cred so to speak, 998 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: in this case the assassination, And the answer is that 999 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: better be one hundred percent yes or else. What are 1000 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: we even really talking about? But let's just assume for 1001 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: a second, and you know, I tire of the Koshogi 1002 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: story just because one I know that if it ultimately 1003 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere. And this falls into that realm of 1004 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 1: foreign policy where they're all a lot of people in 1005 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: the establishment media and in politics who love to talk 1006 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: about foreign policy because that it's you know, it sounds 1007 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: interesting and they think they sound smart when they're doing it. 1008 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 1: But it's all pretty irrelevant. I mean, it doesn't nothing's 1009 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: gonna change. They don't have any ideas or solutions or 1010 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: any bold vision for anything. It's just kind of more 1011 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: the same. But you get the sense that a lot 1012 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: of these senators are excited to share with everybody that 1013 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: now they can name like the main ethnic groups in X, 1014 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: y or Z country, and they want to kind of 1015 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: strut their stuff, you know. Lindsey Graham on the Kashogi situation, 1016 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: what are we really gonna do? We're gonna not deal 1017 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: with the leader of Saudi Arabia. That's not an option 1018 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: if we're gonna deal with Saudi Arabia, right? I mean, 1019 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: would would we as a as a sovereign nation, would 1020 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: we continue a relationship with a country that said that 1021 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: they would not meet with President Trump, that their their 1022 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: president will no longer take phone calls from Trump, will 1023 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 1: no longer have any relationship with the President United States. 1024 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: I think the answer that's I mean, we've never really 1025 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: come up again into that before, but I think the 1026 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 1: answer is no. And why also should we abandon all 1027 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: US foreign policy interests in Saudi Arabia because of this 1028 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: one incident? Is? What is the acceptable punishment? And how 1029 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 1: do we get people to stop harping on this issue. 1030 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, there have been Magnitsky sanctions put in place. 1031 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 1: The administration has given a statement about this, They've said 1032 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: it's completely unacceptable. What has to be done and I 1033 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: really mean this. What has to be done for this 1034 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,919 Speaker 1: to no longer be something that we hear about day 1035 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: in and day out. Now, what has to happen for 1036 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the Libs to stop acting like there's nothing more important 1037 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: for the country to focus on than the murder of 1038 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: Jamalka showed what do we what do we have to do? 1039 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: And I mean that as an open question. I don't 1040 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: know what they think. The answer is, we're going to 1041 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: sanction the leader of Saudi Arabia. We're going to seize 1042 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: his assets. By the way, he's going to claim that 1043 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: he's innocent, that he's been framed, that this isn't you know, 1044 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: there's really no We have no jurisdiction here, there's no 1045 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 1: criminal proceeding to speak of. There's nothing that we can do. 1046 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: And he gets no problem. Now, I mean, I know 1047 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: people don't think of this way. He gets no due process. 1048 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: We're talking about intelligence collection. The reason that intelligence collection 1049 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: is not a part of you know, your standard when 1050 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: you're dealing with US citizens, for example, it's not a 1051 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: part of your of your standard toolkit for law enforcement 1052 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: is that intelligence collection. A lot of it is what 1053 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: you'd call hearsay in court. A lot of it is 1054 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, third parties that think they heard this thing 1055 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 1: from this guy and you just want the information or 1056 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you're making assessments, but it's not all vetted, it's not 1057 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: all clear. And I just also have to take a 1058 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 1: moment to remind everyone that the same libs who just 1059 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: hammered hammered the intelligence community and the CIA in particular 1060 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 1: for the intelligence leading up to the Iraq War, and 1061 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, it was one of the biggest blunders in history, 1062 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: and you know, terrible. The cias blood understands all that. 1063 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: They now believe that that that we can turn to 1064 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: CIA and they'll tell us whether somebody is responsible for 1065 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: giving the order for a murder in a foreign country 1066 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: with one hundred percent certainty. That just seems like a 1067 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 1: standard that has been changed to fit the needs of 1068 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 1: the moment. That doesn't seem like it's based in the 1069 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,959 Speaker 1: objective reality. To me, that doesn't seem like it's something 1070 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that you know, we should all just accept. On its face. 1071 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: So and I don't think that the Koshogi, the Koshogi 1072 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: murder is enough for America to turn its back on 1073 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. I just I as a country. Sure there 1074 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: are individuals was we've taken action against them, but it's 1075 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: just not enough. And you know, it's a cold, cruel 1076 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 1: world that we live in. But I remember we we 1077 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: look at this situation from the perspective of not just 1078 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: what's happening right now. We might have to deal with 1079 01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 1: this guy MBS for the next forty years. So a 1080 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of whining about this, no solutions. That tells you 1081 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: a lot who wants to take a little trip to 1082 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: crazytown with me right now? In this case Seattle and 1083 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the latest the latest nonsense from an Antifa courtesy of 1084 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: our friend Andy no over at Quillette. We played that 1085 01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 1: audio for you earlier the week. We played yesterday for you. 1086 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: That guy who's eventually saying that you know death is 1087 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: coming for you, and you know people are willing to 1088 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: die for this cause. Guy's clearly clearly a loon. Now 1089 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that he's not a problem, right, Loons 1090 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: can be very very dangerous. It just means I'm not 1091 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 1: saying that his mentality is representative of all of the 1092 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 1: hard line left. But I'm not saying it's not either. 1093 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he's because because the radicals on 1094 01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: the left are increasingly I think, you know, embolden is 1095 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 1: the word they always used for Trump and white nationals. Oh, 1096 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Trump has embolden white national And I'm saying by calling 1097 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: them losers and by being a billionaire who's married to 1098 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: an immigrant from Eastern Europe, what do you mean he's 1099 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: emboldening white nationals. I mean, this is just this is 1100 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: just something that people say because they think it sounds good. 1101 01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: But in the case of the far left, you know, 1102 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: you'll you have important voices in the Democratic Party who 1103 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: will make excuses for these real hardline, hardcore activists slash rioters, 1104 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 1: And as you know, riots get results, as we saw 1105 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: in France. You know, riots gonna be a very powerful tool. 1106 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: But this is what I think really shocks people when 1107 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: they dig a little deeper into what it's like out 1108 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 1: in and some of these West Coast cities like Portland 1109 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 1: and Seattle and Oakland, where you have official complicity with 1110 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: some of these riots, or at least a kind of 1111 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: apathy slash excuse making for the worst actors on the left. 1112 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, this is why you had Occupy Ice in 1113 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,439 Speaker 1: Portland for a while, where people were harassing an ICE 1114 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: office there. They gathered outside of it. They have this 1115 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: encampment and you know they could have cleared it, but 1116 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want to clear it. They could 1117 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: have taken action, but they don't want to. You know, 1118 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have these protesters who start getting rowdy and 1119 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: violent and breaking laws and the police don't swoop in. 1120 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 1: You know, you'll have some you know, the mayor of 1121 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Portland for example, and another prominent leftists in local politics, 1122 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: depending on the city we're talking about, they'll say, yeah, well, 1123 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, we want to give them. Member in Baltimore 1124 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: wanted to give them space to destroy. That's a perfect example, 1125 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: you know that Black Lives matter whatever that riot, I mean, 1126 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: you can't even really call it a protest. They're burning 1127 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: things down, and they said it was because they wanted 1128 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 1: to give those those protesters space to destroy. That was 1129 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the either the police chief of the mayor of Baltimore, 1130 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember which one it was, but Andy who 1131 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: was gathered or rather was around a gathering of a 1132 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty self describe anti fascist protesters in downtown Seattle, 1133 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: UM and there was a conservative group that says it 1134 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: is a constitutionalist group. There. The anti VA has the 1135 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: has the flag of the Soviet Union flying first of all, 1136 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 1: so start with that. I mean, these people are celebrating 1137 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: a a genocidal regime. I don't even think they realize 1138 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: that it's a genocidal regime because they're they're ignorant of history, 1139 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and they're generally not very smart. But Andy had an 1140 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: exchange with a police officer, a police officer that I 1141 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: thought was really interesting and is indicative of a much 1142 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 1: more widespread problem. Play fifteen. The boy you're inciting, we're 1143 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: gonna dix some attinute to move you from Mary. Understand that, 1144 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: how am, because we're ending up in confrontation here, and 1145 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: it becomes this can become a public safety issue for 1146 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: it's difficult for us to advantage the other people potentially 1147 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 1: getting heart. Okay, okay, Now, if you want to protest, 1148 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: you have the absolutely right expersation. I'm not protestation. You 1149 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,240 Speaker 1: have right to be where you want to beat a 1150 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:13,880 Speaker 1: cl extent as well. But if we're creating if we're 1151 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,439 Speaker 1: exciting a potential. Okay, just let me know when you 1152 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 1: think that I'm doing that in how I can de escalate. Okay. 1153 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 1: So look, I know the cops here have a tough job. 1154 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I get it, okay, And they really just want everybody 1155 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: to go home with all their teeth in place and 1156 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,600 Speaker 1: and all the red I get that too. But I 1157 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,040 Speaker 1: also think that what you see here is is a 1158 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 1: more commonplace issue on on the left or when when 1159 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 1: you're dealing with the left, and that is that because 1160 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: they're willing to escalate to violence, it becomes your problem 1161 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and your rights are truncated. Right. You see this on 1162 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: the college campuses, the presence of a conservative speaker is 1163 01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: a safety issue, and that's why conservatives are not allowed 1164 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: on the campus. It's not that it's not that they're 1165 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,840 Speaker 1: shutting down speech. It's a safety issue, they will say. 1166 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: And actually the Young America's Foundation, I think just one 1167 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Berkeley very much related to this, where 1168 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, Berkeley and then these other schools will say, 1169 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, we can't have conservatives come and speak because 1170 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: the security costs are too high, you know, because it's 1171 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: a safety issue. Well I'm sorry, but that doesn't fly. 1172 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to eliminate somebody's First Amendment rights because 1173 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 1: other people, you know, you can't give them a heckler 1174 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: or in this case, a rioter's veto because other people 1175 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: don't want them to be speaking. And that's what this 1176 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: police officer wasn't It was just dancing around the edge 1177 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: of doing here. And he's just there with a camera. 1178 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 1: He's just just Antifa knows him. They've now and they've 1179 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: been threatening him, but he gets death threats. I mean, 1180 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Antifa is aware that he is exposing their idiocy on 1181 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 1: a regular basis, and so whenever they see him, they 1182 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: get very you know, very aggravated and vengeful and everything else. 1183 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: But for a cop to come up to you and 1184 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: say that they're going to remove you, which you know, 1185 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like, you know, come with us, or 1186 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: else you're going to get arrested because there's a there's 1187 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 1: a safety threat here from the people around you who 1188 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,759 Speaker 1: are going to attack you. I mean, this is almost 1189 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: it's almost like they were going to arrest Andy for 1190 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: his own safety, you know, that was that was the head. 1191 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 1: Look at extreme circumstances. I guess he could come up 1192 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 1: with it sounds like something out of a movie. You 1193 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: can come up with a situation though where that's that's 1194 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: probably the best move in terms of pure safety. But 1195 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, you you we have to be on guard 1196 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: for this because the olynsky I left is willing to 1197 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 1: raise the temperature and raise the stakes to get the 1198 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 1: outcome that they want, which is shutting down speech, not 1199 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: allowing people to expose the Left for what it really is. 1200 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 1: And if all they have to do is threatened violence, 1201 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: and then they have authorities, law enforcement politicians who say, well, 1202 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 1: hold on, you know, we can't allow we can't allow 1203 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 1: there to be this this, you know, this speech that 1204 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: incites the other side so much not that incites against 1205 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: the other side, but that the other side takes as 1206 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: incitement for its own violence against the speaker. Then we 1207 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 1: really don't have much of a First Amendment anymore. Then 1208 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,600 Speaker 1: we don't really have the protections that we think we do. 1209 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: So I just would know that you see this happening. 1210 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 1: It happens on campuses, that happens to some of these 1211 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: protests where the craziest, loudest, angriest voices are just able 1212 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: to create a disturbance or or create a perception that 1213 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: there's imminent violence, and then that perception alone is enough 1214 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: for the person against whom the violence would be committed 1215 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 1: to be in some way punished or have his rights 1216 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: or her rights violated. So this is like the Left 1217 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:02,680 Speaker 1: comes at us with everything they've got. We've got to 1218 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: be aware of all of their tools. I remember all 1219 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the information security technology training that we have when I 1220 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 1: was a CIA, And you know, it's scary how easy 1221 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 1: it is not just for the bad guys and the 1222 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,760 Speaker 1: hackers to get into your stuff, especially if you use 1223 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 1: public WiFi, but even for big companies that you think 1224 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: you can trust, they get hacked, and then that information 1225 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: that they have, all that stuff they've been gathered on 1226 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: you guess what, then it's out there all right. You 1227 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 1: need to protect yourself. That's why you need express VPN. 1228 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Express VPN creates a wall between you and the bad 1229 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,759 Speaker 1: guys by encrypting your data and hiding your public IP address. 1230 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: It anonymizes your Internet browsing as well. This is what 1231 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: you need to cost less than seven bucks a month, right, 1232 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 1: it's just worth it. Think of it as insurance for 1233 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: all of your online activities. Protect your activity today online 1234 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: and find out how you can get three months free 1235 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:59,560 Speaker 1: at express vpn dot com slash buck. That's Express vpn 1236 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck for three months free with a 1237 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 1: one year package Express vpn dot com slash buck. The 1238 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: tariff rates will be slash significantly. This according to the 1239 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,680 Speaker 1: Chinese the number that was put on the table in 1240 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 1: our private meetings was over a trillion. Here's the key point. 1241 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: They're gonna cut their tariffs, They're gonna lawer their non 1242 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: tariff barriers. Okay, and that opens the door for American exporters, 1243 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:33,520 Speaker 1: all our farmers, all our manufacturers, even our automobile producers 1244 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,639 Speaker 1: that exports to China. If you'll give us open markets, 1245 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 1: we will claber them. We will sell everything. We are 1246 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: the most competitive economy in the world. We'll knock them dead, 1247 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,600 Speaker 1: and we'll lower the trade deficit while we're doing it. 1248 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:51,759 Speaker 1: So Larry, if Larry Kudlow saying that there's greener pastures ahead, 1249 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,840 Speaker 1: bluer skies, all that stuff. Trump still knows what he's 1250 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: doing on tariffs. We just need to see this through. 1251 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Is he right? How are we handling this situation with China. 1252 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 1: To answer that question, we've got Gordon Chang with us 1253 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 1: he's the author of The Coming Collapse of China and 1254 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,120 Speaker 1: a columnist. Gordon, great to have you back. Thank you 1255 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 1: so much, buck Well. Gordon, what do you make of 1256 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,560 Speaker 1: where we are right now in the wake of the 1257 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: g twenty sit down with Hijin Ping and President Trump? 1258 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,360 Speaker 1: We've got this ninety day window to try and hammer 1259 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: out some kind of a deal. Has Trump been playing 1260 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 1: this right so far? I think President Trump has done 1261 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: a great job, at least up until Saturday. On Saturday 1262 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 1: at the dinner with Sijn Ping at twenty in Argentina, 1263 01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I think you have to score the round for the 1264 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Chinese for a number of reasons. I know that they've 1265 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 1: made a lot of promises, but they've made a lot 1266 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,080 Speaker 1: of promises in the past and they haven't been really 1267 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 1: very good in keeping them. Also, you know, on a 1268 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: ninety day truth means the Chinese are going to steal 1269 01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: more US intellectual property. And I don't know exactly what 1270 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,600 Speaker 1: that number is, but it's going to be in the 1271 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars. Because each year or the 1272 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Chinese steal hundreds of billions of dollars. So we're giving 1273 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 1: them like a seventy eighty billion dollar free pass on 1274 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 1: more USIP. We've heard a lot of what China will do. 1275 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 1: It would be nice to think that they actually do it, 1276 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 1: But at this particular time, I think we just need 1277 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 1: to be very concerned because Siejin Ping believes in a 1278 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 1: state dominated economy, believes in closing up China to foreign competitors, 1279 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 1: and this just does not sound like the sieging thing 1280 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,599 Speaker 1: that we've known for about five and a half six years. 1281 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: Where are the areas that you think he is willing to, 1282 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, bend are What are the negotiables as you 1283 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 1: see them on this tariff and trade issue Gordon from 1284 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 1: the Chinese perspective, and where are we probably just you know, 1285 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: screaming into an empty room trying to get them to 1286 01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: change their ways. I think that they will reduce tariffs, 1287 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 1: but I don't think they'll actually reduce non tariff barriers. 1288 01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,640 Speaker 1: And if they reduced some of them, they'll put new 1289 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: ones up. So that's I think not going to be Well, 1290 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 1: we'll win a little bit on terms of trade deficit, 1291 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 1: but not terribly much. But the most important thing buck 1292 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,680 Speaker 1: is not trade deficit, although that is something that we 1293 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 1: would want. The most important thing is the theft of 1294 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: US intellectual property, and I don't see China slowing that 1295 01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 1: down at all. You know, as we've seen from the 1296 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: NSA report and also from the report from the US 1297 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,599 Speaker 1: Trade Representative, they've been stealing much more stuff. It ramped 1298 01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: up a lot in the middle of twenty seventeen, and 1299 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't see that making those structural changes to so 1300 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 1: that they would no longer steal our stuff. And in 1301 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:49,120 Speaker 1: terms of you know, the Chinese economies paying up to 1302 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,400 Speaker 1: this point versus our payman, the Chinese market, I know 1303 01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 1: has gotten gotten hit pretty hard, and obviously people are 1304 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 1: a little more concerned about the US market. You know, 1305 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 1: how do you assess our leverage in dealing with them 1306 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,639 Speaker 1: on this issue? Do you think that the American people 1307 01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: are willing to see this through? You know, people a 1308 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,879 Speaker 1: few months ago we're looking at farmers who were suffering 1309 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,639 Speaker 1: a bit because of China's retaliatory tariffs on our retaliatory tariffs, 1310 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,360 Speaker 1: much delayed tariffs, but farmers in the Midwest. We're saying, well, 1311 01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, I want to give Trump the leeway for 1312 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 1: him to actually try his policy, see his policy through 1313 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: to fruition. Do you think that we I mean, is 1314 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,599 Speaker 1: it possible that we could stick together on this one 1315 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 1: and actually get to that point, or are you worried 1316 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 1: that we're going to buckle under the pressure of the 1317 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: economic pain we're going to feel. I think that political 1318 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 1: will is the big question mark. When you look at 1319 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: the objective factors, we have overwhelming leverage over China. When 1320 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 1: you look at trade deficit, you look at the size 1321 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: of economy, you look at trade dependency. All of these 1322 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 1: factors show that we've got much more pull over the 1323 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Chinese and may have over us, and it's not even close. 1324 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:02,160 Speaker 1: Buck The only thing that is unknown, and it's really 1325 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: the most important factor is political will. And you know, 1326 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 1: forget the American people for a moment. On Saturday, we 1327 01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 1: saw that the President of the United States, who is 1328 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,400 Speaker 1: passionate about this issue, didn't have the political will to 1329 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,439 Speaker 1: confront the Chinese. What he decided to do was to 1330 01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,840 Speaker 1: go for delay. Now, maybe that's the right decision, but 1331 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 1: I actually don't think so, because what we're doing right 1332 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 1: now is, you know, we Americans think, you know, if 1333 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 1: we give them a concession, which we did by not 1334 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: going through with the scheduled teriff increases from ten to 1335 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 1: twenty five percent, we think, oh, if we give them 1336 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: a concession, they'll be generous to us and they'll return 1337 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: the gratitude. That's not the way the Chinese think. That's 1338 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: not the way the Chinese treat other countries. You just 1339 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,040 Speaker 1: got to keep the pressure up until they have no 1340 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,600 Speaker 1: choice but to do the right thing. We don't have 1341 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 1: the will to do that, and I think we'll eventually 1342 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 1: get there, because the Chinese will push us too far. 1343 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,080 Speaker 1: But I'm not liking what I'm seeing out of the 1344 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Trump administration for the last three or four days. And 1345 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 1: I certainly don't like it when I hear people say, oh, 1346 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's different this time, because for an administration 1347 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 1: official to say that, I think is just inappropriate. And 1348 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,000 Speaker 1: we're speaking of Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse 1349 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:16,479 Speaker 1: of China, Gordon, is there a future that's a win 1350 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: win for everybody here? Is that something that's possible? You think? 1351 01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Is there a world in which, at some point down 1352 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,640 Speaker 1: the line, China liberalizes its trade policy, stops cheating in 1353 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 1: its trade policy, and therefore gets richer and better. I mean, 1354 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: I feel like at the center of all this free 1355 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,879 Speaker 1: trade thinking is the rising tide that lifts all boats. 1356 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 1: Is that a possible future for the Chinese as well, 1357 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,200 Speaker 1: or are they going to basically just lose out by 1358 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 1: not continuing to cheat the way they have Well, Buck, 1359 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:50,720 Speaker 1: it is possible, especially if the Communist Party is no 1360 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,760 Speaker 1: longer rule in China, if CGM pain is around. He 1361 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: doesn't believe in win win solutions. He doesn't even believe 1362 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: in the notion of comparative advantage, which is the fundamental 1363 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 1: concept that underlies the global trading system. So it's extremely 1364 01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: unlikely there's a win win solution. As long as Seach 1365 01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: and Ping is around, as long as the Communist Party 1366 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: is around, we can get there. But China's got to 1367 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: be a much better China than it's been for the 1368 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,840 Speaker 1: last four decades before we let you go, Gordon, how 1369 01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:26,479 Speaker 1: are we doing with North Korea? Well, we're not doing 1370 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 1: too well. Especially we haven't been doing too well since 1371 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: the middle or so of May. Up until May or so, 1372 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,720 Speaker 1: President Trump's policy was extraordinarily effective. But you know, since then, 1373 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,280 Speaker 1: he's let the pressure off. And he's done that because 1374 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,680 Speaker 1: he wants to create this favorable environment so that Kim 1375 01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,839 Speaker 1: Jong un can make the right decision. As the President 1376 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:53,599 Speaker 1: talked about before the Singapore summit, but the North Koreans 1377 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 1: are not returning the gratitude, They're not returning the gesture. 1378 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 1: And so I think President Trump's going to have to 1379 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 1: go back to that maximum pressure campaign. He may not 1380 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 1: like to do it, but unless he wants Kim Jong 1381 01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: un to make him look a little bit foolish, he's 1382 01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 1: going to have to go back to what made him 1383 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: successful through the middle of May. And if not, Kim 1384 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Jong un is just going to run over not only 1385 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 1: the United States but South Korea. We're going to probably 1386 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,640 Speaker 1: lose our ally there. As Moon Jay in the pro 1387 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: North Korean president takes advantage of this, as the Chinese 1388 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,560 Speaker 1: take advantage of it, as the Russians take advantage of it. 1389 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 1: President Trump can still win this, but he's got a 1390 01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: change course. Gordon Chang, author of The Coming Collapse of China, 1391 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 1: also go check out his website Gordon Z. Chang dot com. 1392 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: Gordon always great to have you all, my friend. We'll 1393 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Thanks. Buck All right, team, we 1394 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: got more coming up here in just a moment. 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So join us at snippy dot com. 1411 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Let your opinion matter, no shadow banning and no suppression 1412 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: of conservative thought ever. Now with an updated user interface 1413 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: and exciting new features, also available in the Apple App 1414 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,439 Speaker 1: Store and now available for Android, Snippy is your new 1415 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 1: alternative social media. Check it out snippy dot com. And 1416 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: I just had a fall for you about impeachment because 1417 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 1: you were talking about the hypothetical standard of the GOP 1418 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 1: set in the nineties. What did you mean by that 1419 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: standard and what do you how does that apply to 1420 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: today with Trump? Well? I just think, um, you know, 1421 01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,759 Speaker 1: I think what overall when you look at the Broach 1422 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 1: stroke they took, how far they would take, um, and 1423 01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 1: how how granularly they would dig into that process and 1424 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 1: so um. Sorry, I'm in the middle of office picking, 1425 01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 1: so I just like I can't act right now. Aside right, No, 1426 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: I understand you've been supportive of impeaching for a while though, 1427 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,080 Speaker 1: So what do you think after the Russia developments? Do 1428 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,640 Speaker 1: you think the Democrats should go in that direction? I 1429 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 1: would be supportive, and anyone we're seeing here is really 1430 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 1: serious questions emoluments. I gotta tell you, you wouldn't want 1431 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Okazio Cortez to be the captain of your team on 1432 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,439 Speaker 1: trivia night. Just just a little safety tip for me 1433 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,840 Speaker 1: to you. You would not want her to be the 1434 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,720 Speaker 1: one in charge of getting the right answers to the 1435 01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: trivia questions. Okay, it would not go Well, she's gone 1436 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,639 Speaker 1: the hallway there. This is what you reporters do. Sometimes 1437 01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: they come up and ask it. Look at the people's house, right, 1438 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 1: you're in Congress they come up there and they try 1439 01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,759 Speaker 1: to ask you questions. I've done it before, ask questions 1440 01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 1: the hallway to remembers of Congress. So I understand she's 1441 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,560 Speaker 1: on the move everything else. But she's like, well, like 1442 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I just think overall, like when you look at like 1443 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 1: the broad stroke they took, like how far they would 1444 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,879 Speaker 1: take and how granularly they would dig into that process. 1445 01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: O'casio Cortez is so fascinating, I think to conservative you know, 1446 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 1: the left is already throwing up the usual defenses. Oh, 1447 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 1: it's because she's a woman. Oh it's because she's a minority. 1448 01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,760 Speaker 1: That's why conservatives are so hard on her. No, it's 1449 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:47,720 Speaker 1: because she's so symbolic, really or really emblematic. I mean, 1450 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 1: she's somebody who is, in a sense, the epitome of 1451 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 1: a progressive millennial. And now you finally have that progressive 1452 01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:01,920 Speaker 1: millennial in a national political light, and what you see 1453 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,560 Speaker 1: is somebody who has picked up all of the buzzwords 1454 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: and the slogans. I mean, she's certainly been around a 1455 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of social justice talk for a long time and 1456 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 1: has also understood that there are just phrases that you 1457 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 1: can say, there are things that you can paret. I mean, 1458 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: just repeat that you have heard that are a way 1459 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: of signaling to your own side that you are one 1460 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 1: of them. That the very specific word choice, saying things 1461 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:37,559 Speaker 1: like talking about always democracy and social justice and now 1462 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 1: these days saying things like undermining institutions whenever you're talking 1463 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,360 Speaker 1: about Trump. You know, there are certain words redistributive. Throw 1464 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 1: throwing the term redistributive when you mean Marxists. You know, 1465 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 1: throw in the term equality when you really mean special 1466 01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: rights for or new rights created for. There there's a 1467 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,000 Speaker 1: way of speaking that signals to people that you are 1468 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 1: of a certain mindset, and Okazio Cortez has that down. 1469 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: But what you see with her is those phrases, those words, 1470 01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:15,080 Speaker 1: there's very little knowledge beneath them, and knowledge does matter. 1471 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: Knowledge matters. You can't, in fact, just go on on style. 1472 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,479 Speaker 1: There has to be something below that, because without knowledge 1473 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,840 Speaker 1: it's very hard to have wisdom, and without wisdom, it's 1474 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,760 Speaker 1: very difficult to have good judgment. But what you see 1475 01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 1: in the case of Ocasio Cortez is somebody who sounds 1476 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: the part, emotes the way she's supposed to connect, connects 1477 01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,519 Speaker 1: the way she's supposed to on the left, but does 1478 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,040 Speaker 1: not have the underlying substance to back it up. And 1479 01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think she's going to get it anytime soon either, 1480 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,640 Speaker 1: and they're just going to continue to prop her up 1481 01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: and back her up. It really reminds me in a way. Look, 1482 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Obama had a much more impressive academic pedigree, although people 1483 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 1: always get mad at me and say, you know, the 1484 01:26:57,240 --> 01:27:00,560 Speaker 1: guy was, you know, a student in the eighties or 1485 01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,680 Speaker 1: whatever it was in the late seventies that I guess 1486 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:07,759 Speaker 1: late in the seventies at Occidental College, which is fine, 1487 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 1: but you know, it's not like this guy was some 1488 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,759 Speaker 1: academic superstar. He somehow got into Columbia as a transfer 1489 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden is like at the 1490 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 1: top of Harvard Law Review. That's a very unusual rise 1491 01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 1: for someone to make. And there are, I think, very 1492 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 1: honest questions to ask about how much of that was 1493 01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 1: understanding the system versus real academic superstardom. That all said, 1494 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: he clearly has a more impressive academic pedigree than Occasio Cortez. 1495 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 1: But Obama was a guy who would get away with 1496 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 1: saying really flimsy things on a regular basis. You know, 1497 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,360 Speaker 1: I saw today on Twitter. I would give him credit 1498 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 1: but I can't remember who did it. I'm just I'm 1499 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: so much of my life has spent reading an online 1500 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 1: But there you had somebody who was making the case that, 1501 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, dan quail who is actually a very smart guy. 1502 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 1: Dan Quaile misspelled potato once and was turned into a 1503 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,680 Speaker 1: laugh line, and people said he was stupid. I mean, 1504 01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:12,439 Speaker 1: dan Quayle equals stupid is a complete construct of the media. 1505 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's a very good example of how 1506 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 1: the two sides, or rather how they treat people from 1507 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,400 Speaker 1: the two sides of the media. You know, O'caozio Cortes 1508 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:28,120 Speaker 1: can say endless dumb thing after another, just one foolish, 1509 01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 1: ignorant thing, and they'll say it's a gaff. Oh it's adorable, 1510 01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,639 Speaker 1: Oh she's a dorcable without the numbers that she got wrong. 1511 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,200 Speaker 1: It's like not that big got dale. But when a 1512 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Republican says anything that's wrong, they're in an idiot who 1513 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,840 Speaker 1: can't tie can't tie their shoes. And it's very clear 1514 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: that this is this is the standard that they've been 1515 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,760 Speaker 1: operating under, this double standard, and with Ocazio Cortez, you're 1516 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 1: going to continue to see this. I also like though 1517 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 1: that this is somebody who is part of this vanguard 1518 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 1: of the kind of new age socialism in this country, 1519 01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 1: this new wave, I mean you now have and Obama 1520 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 1: paved the way for this. You know, we forget how 1521 01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 1: far down the road of progressivism the Obama administration really 1522 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,000 Speaker 1: took us. But after eight years of Obama, the way 1523 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 1: was cleared for the next generation of Democrats in elected 1524 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 1: office to say, you know what, don't you like some 1525 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 1: of the stuff we did well to complete it. You know, 1526 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,320 Speaker 1: if you want to really savor the flavor and get 1527 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,680 Speaker 1: all the all the best free stuff the government has 1528 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,600 Speaker 1: to offer, you gotta go full socialist. You can't do 1529 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,160 Speaker 1: this quasi socialist thing. And the truth is that a 1530 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of the Democrats, even more mainstream Democrats, know this 1531 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 1: and understand that they are playing a role in this 1532 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: transformation of the country. But it's really this Sanders Warren 1533 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,040 Speaker 1: Okazio Cortes wing of the party, even though Okazi Cortez 1534 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,439 Speaker 1: hasn't even been sworn in yet as a as a 1535 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 1: member of Congress. But it's it's people who fall into 1536 01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 1: that part of the Democrat spectrum. They are the ones. 1537 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,400 Speaker 1: They're the ones who are openly saying you know, we 1538 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:12,400 Speaker 1: would like to be socialist. We want this country to 1539 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,520 Speaker 1: be a Democrat socialist country. And you know that designation 1540 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 1: of Democrats social it doesn't really make all that much 1541 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,840 Speaker 1: difference because it's you know, socialism starts with some very 1542 01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 1: basic concepts and once they're in place, Yes, there there 1543 01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 1: are more extreme versions of it than others. But when 1544 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:34,599 Speaker 1: the government has essentially complete authority or takes upon itself 1545 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 1: the right to dispense with property rights, then it can 1546 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 1: dispense with individual rights. And then from there things just 1547 01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:48,599 Speaker 1: get really bad, really quickly. Maybe it takes a bit 1548 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:51,840 Speaker 1: of time, maybe it's not right away, but once we 1549 01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:57,519 Speaker 1: start down that slippery slope, things to get very very dark. Indeed, 1550 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,200 Speaker 1: so Okaz and Cortez, oh, and on impeaching Trump, I 1551 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 1: just would say that the only thing that would prevent 1552 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 1: them from impeaching Trump is if they think that it's 1553 01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 1: not in their political interest to do it. And I 1554 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 1: do not. I do not think the Democrats have enough 1555 01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 1: self control. I do not believe the Democrat Party has 1556 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:25,880 Speaker 1: the impulse control to avoid giving into the rapid left 1557 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 1: wing base and impeaching President Trump. I just think that 1558 01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,080 Speaker 1: when push comes to shove, there are going to be 1559 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 1: too many people wearing pink hats, marching, yelling, screaming, you know, 1560 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,840 Speaker 1: wearing handmaid's tail costumes, saying that Trump is Hitler and 1561 01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 1: you know kkk Usa and all this crazy stuff. There'll 1562 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,800 Speaker 1: be too many of them, and they will go forward 1563 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 1: with impeachment, even if it is not in their political 1564 01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 1: interest to do so. I certainly think it's a good 1565 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:03,599 Speaker 1: thing that President George HW. Bush is receiving the honor 1566 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,080 Speaker 1: that he earned and that he deserves as a veteran, 1567 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:13,759 Speaker 1: a war hero, a former president, somebody who spent decades 1568 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,920 Speaker 1: in the service of his country and did so with 1569 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:21,879 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of decency and kindness by all accounts. 1570 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,840 Speaker 1: But I also think that over this holiday season, it's 1571 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: important for us all to remember, as we as we 1572 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 1: get closer to Christmas, that not everyone who deserves a 1573 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:40,360 Speaker 1: hero's remembrance gets it. In fact, very very few of 1574 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,800 Speaker 1: those who have led exemplary lives, who have sacrificed a 1575 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,519 Speaker 1: tremendous amount in the service of their country, and who 1576 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: are in fact, by every by every definition of the 1577 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,679 Speaker 1: word heroes, very very few of them are celebrated as such. 1578 01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: This this really strung me A fellow named Patrick Meade 1579 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,640 Speaker 1: wrote this online. He is a he's a minister and 1580 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:11,360 Speaker 1: a guitarist, and this got a lot of attention. Over 1581 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,840 Speaker 1: the weekends, A lot of people shared this. He wrote 1582 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,040 Speaker 1: the following, I had to place my father in dementia 1583 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,360 Speaker 1: care today and drive away. I can only be there 1584 01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,920 Speaker 1: every couple of weeks, so I tape this to his door. 1585 01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 1: I want the staff to know who the man in 1586 01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:36,920 Speaker 1: number fourteen, Room fourteen truly is. And he writes this 1587 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,599 Speaker 1: speaking from the perspective of his dad, who is now 1588 01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:45,000 Speaker 1: in full time care because of his dementia. Quote. My 1589 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:49,519 Speaker 1: name is Bill Mead. I was born in abject poverty. 1590 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:56,920 Speaker 1: I became a warrior US Navy Korean War Korean War era. 1591 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 1: I then laid aside my weapons and became a minister 1592 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:07,559 Speaker 1: and a missionary. I traveled the world spreading the Gospel 1593 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,880 Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ, bringing hope, medicine, and love to the 1594 01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 1: United States, Europe, South America, and Africa. I am slowly 1595 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 1: leaving this earth for my heavenly home. This may take 1596 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:26,640 Speaker 1: a while. Thank you for remembering who I was and 1597 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:33,480 Speaker 1: who I am. I am a man, a warrior, a missionary, 1598 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:41,559 Speaker 1: a father, a friend, and much more so in a way. 1599 01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,559 Speaker 1: I think now we can take a moment to step 1600 01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:50,960 Speaker 1: back and say, how would we treat the people in 1601 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:56,479 Speaker 1: our lives if we assumed that many of them had 1602 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:02,160 Speaker 1: overcome tremendous challenges, had in their own way served, had 1603 01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 1: in their own way been a soldier, a soldier of Christ, 1604 01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,240 Speaker 1: if not a soldier on the actual battlefield. How would 1605 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,599 Speaker 1: we treat people if we didn't know, but always took 1606 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:18,080 Speaker 1: the approach that there was something beautiful and great and 1607 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: worthwhile within them. I understand that over the holidays that 1608 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:28,000 Speaker 1: can feel like we are saturated with all this commercialism, 1609 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 1: this desire to try to get nice gifts and take 1610 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 1: these vacations, and that's pete. Look, people work hard. They 1611 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,720 Speaker 1: deserve to show their love for their family members and 1612 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:45,280 Speaker 1: friends with gifts to do things that you bring us 1613 01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,120 Speaker 1: all together, whether it's a big dinner or vacation or 1614 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But I also think that there's 1615 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 1: room four reflection on how we all go about our 1616 01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 1: day to day lives and one of the most important 1617 01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 1: things because it's one of the areas where we can 1618 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:05,240 Speaker 1: always improve, Where self assessment and self improvement are never 1619 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,880 Speaker 1: out of place, and that is how we treat one another. 1620 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,679 Speaker 1: And I think there's a reason why this man Patrick 1621 01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,960 Speaker 1: Mead's message written in the voice of his father for 1622 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,760 Speaker 1: the staff at the facility that's taken care of him 1623 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,280 Speaker 1: in his period of dementia really resonated with people because 1624 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,560 Speaker 1: this man Bill Mead, was a warrior, was a missionary, 1625 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,880 Speaker 1: was a man working in the service of God, and 1626 01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:36,640 Speaker 1: deserves all of the respect and kindness and support that 1627 01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: that entails. And a lot of the people in our 1628 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:44,240 Speaker 1: lives are also, in their own way, warriors for what 1629 01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:48,600 Speaker 1: is good. We should give them that respect and that 1630 01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 1: support as much as we possibly can. The show ain't 1631 01:36:53,280 --> 01:37:02,400 Speaker 1: over yet, folks. It's time for roll call. All right. 1632 01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, which gets us halfway to hump Day, so 1633 01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,960 Speaker 1: it's like half hump day. That doesn't sound about much fun. 1634 01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,840 Speaker 1: Facebook dot Com slash buck Sexton if you want to 1635 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,760 Speaker 1: have your message read on air, If you don't, by 1636 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,160 Speaker 1: the way, just right at the top for you only, 1637 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 1: or don't read on air that way, it'll just be 1638 01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,599 Speaker 1: to me and the team. All right. We have John 1639 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,720 Speaker 1: who writes all right, man, I had to chime into 1640 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 1: here about all this best accent talk your best is 1641 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,639 Speaker 1: soros by far. Thank you very much for this touto stuck. 1642 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,559 Speaker 1: Also called a new show on Netflix you'd like. It's 1643 01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,559 Speaker 1: called Bodyguard. It's set in the UK and the main 1644 01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,840 Speaker 1: character is an anti terrorism intelligence officer. The show has 1645 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,320 Speaker 1: a very realistic deep state twist on things. It also 1646 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,280 Speaker 1: builds up quick you'll be hooked in ten minutes. So 1647 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:57,320 Speaker 1: I watched the first episode almost all the way through 1648 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,519 Speaker 1: of that show, John, and I thought the opening sequence 1649 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,720 Speaker 1: with the suicide bomber was very very well done, and 1650 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,240 Speaker 1: then I got really bored as this as the episode 1651 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:10,680 Speaker 1: went on. So I haven't gotten yet to the interesting 1652 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,560 Speaker 1: deep state component of it yet, but I'm willing to 1653 01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 1: go back and and watch again because you're not the 1654 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: only person. They've been a number of people who've told 1655 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,640 Speaker 1: me that it's a very very good show, and then 1656 01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: I should really give it a shot. Rob Rights, Oh wait, 1657 01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 1: no wait, we got more from John Sorry, also caught 1658 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 1: a new show and oh no, you know that is 1659 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 1: the also Okay, so we got that Rob Rights. Mission 1660 01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,360 Speaker 1: complete brought a tear to my eye too. Your thoughts 1661 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,320 Speaker 1: on that image of man's best friend make you trustworthy? 1662 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 1: Will thank you Rob, Rob's referring to George H. W. 1663 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:50,439 Speaker 1: Bush's service dog, Sully. It was just a It was 1664 01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,759 Speaker 1: just a very powerful, very powerful image, very powerful photo. 1665 01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:59,559 Speaker 1: And perhaps no surprise, but somebody from slate dot com, 1666 01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,880 Speaker 1: which is one of these left wing news sites, one 1667 01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,639 Speaker 1: of many many left wing sites all for the millennial 1668 01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,880 Speaker 1: pajama boy generation, wrote something that was more or less 1669 01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:15,439 Speaker 1: telling us that Sully had only been with the president 1670 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: for six months, to which I had to think, why 1671 01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,559 Speaker 1: would anybody take their time to write this? Here? Let 1672 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 1: me give you the Sully. This is from Slate. Sully 1673 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:29,120 Speaker 1: HW Bush is a service dog who had been with 1674 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,240 Speaker 1: the president for six months, not his lifelong companion. This 1675 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 1: is what an author at Slate decided to write, as 1676 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,720 Speaker 1: if we needed to be told that. And I would 1677 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,320 Speaker 1: just note that the bond between a human being and 1678 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,679 Speaker 1: his or her dog is not a time constrained thing, 1679 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,240 Speaker 1: and anybody who's ever had a dog and had a 1680 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,639 Speaker 1: very close relationship with a dog understands why that image 1681 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,120 Speaker 1: was so powerful. I just wish the left would stop 1682 01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,439 Speaker 1: being such a bunch of foolish haters, but they can't 1683 01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:05,760 Speaker 1: help themselves. Thea rights whoa first Veep then president was 1684 01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:09,000 Speaker 1: John Adams, one of the greatest men that lived and 1685 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:13,120 Speaker 1: extremely underrated. We would not have had our country with Adam. Yes, 1686 01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:17,120 Speaker 1: you are correct. The last time, before hw Bush, we 1687 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:21,240 Speaker 1: had a VP who then became the elected then was 1688 01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:24,840 Speaker 1: elected to the presidency, not became president because of an assassination. 1689 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 1: Or was the fellow that I mentioned yesterday Martin van Buren. 1690 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 1: The issue is whether somebody was elected to be president 1691 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 1: for being a vice president. So there you go. You 1692 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,160 Speaker 1: are correct. John Adams was vice president and then became 1693 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: President of the United States. Judy writes, Titanic, are you kidding? 1694 01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:52,559 Speaker 1: Everyone dies? Save myself the money? I like you anyway, 1695 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 1: Original Saturday Squad shield side Judy, I'm not saying that 1696 01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: I like Titanic. I think it's a sappy, pretty ridiculous 1697 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:06,360 Speaker 1: movie all things considered. I'm not somebody who is pro 1698 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:10,679 Speaker 1: Titanic as a film. I'm just saying we all saw 1699 01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,439 Speaker 1: that movie, and people who tell you that they haven't 1700 01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:15,760 Speaker 1: seen Titanic, I just think they're playing a little fast 1701 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 1: and loose with the truth. I think it's very clear 1702 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,400 Speaker 1: that Titanic is a movie that pretty much everybody who 1703 01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:26,400 Speaker 1: sees movies probably went to at some point in time. 1704 01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:32,360 Speaker 1: Kimberly writes, my favorite story is the Christmas story. It's 1705 01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,479 Speaker 1: beautiful on its own. It deserves no distractions. We made 1706 01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 1: it the meeting of our holiday. And I agree about 1707 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,040 Speaker 1: Santa boom Buck. I got a lot of pushback. However, 1708 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,639 Speaker 1: I felt uncomfortable telling my children Santa was real. As 1709 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 1: a person of faith, I did not want them to 1710 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,320 Speaker 1: think the Christmas story was another tall tale. I made 1711 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,960 Speaker 1: a choice, and we still have wonderful celebrations. My favorite 1712 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 1: stories were My oldest son in public said, look, Mom, 1713 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,760 Speaker 1: it's the Christmas Man. Yeah. I don't really understand why. 1714 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,439 Speaker 1: You're also just quick to tell our kids things that 1715 01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:09,240 Speaker 1: are not true. I don't know why that's something that 1716 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 1: we're all okay with. With the Santa Claus story, we 1717 01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 1: could just say there's this myth of Santa, and we 1718 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:18,240 Speaker 1: could just tell it like a story without convincing kids. 1719 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, this is a thing that happens. I don't know. 1720 01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I agree with that approach, but 1721 01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm open to my mind being changed on it. I 1722 01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:29,640 Speaker 1: know it's your tradition and people do it, and I 1723 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,040 Speaker 1: sound like a grinch and all that stuff Remember, the 1724 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 1: Grinch has a happy ending. The Grinch in the end 1725 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:39,720 Speaker 1: realizes that Whoville everyone's happy even though their presence have 1726 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,800 Speaker 1: been taken, and the Grinch's heart kind of melts in 1727 01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,920 Speaker 1: a good way. Josh Right, Shield's high, Buck, there's no 1728 01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,840 Speaker 1: genre more misogynistic than rap music. Gonna have to ban 1729 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,280 Speaker 1: an entire industry. Merry Christmas to you, Ada, miss Molly Well, 1730 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much just for writing in. And yes, 1731 01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:02,160 Speaker 1: there's clearly a double standard when it comes to banning 1732 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 1: misogyny in artwork and music. Specifically, when it comes to 1733 01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,960 Speaker 1: hip hop music, there's a lot of not even casual misogyny, 1734 01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:14,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of really aggressive misogyny in hip hop music. 1735 01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 1: And we're told that that's just the way that it is, 1736 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 1: that this is just something that people can accept. And 1737 01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:24,040 Speaker 1: I wish that was. I wish that we had a 1738 01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 1: more clear standard on this one. How about that? Johann 1739 01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:30,720 Speaker 1: Right listening as I write this, and the solution to 1740 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 1: covering the border would be to deputize the many Americans 1741 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,439 Speaker 1: who would do it for free. Buck, you have the 1742 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:38,880 Speaker 1: best voice, including today and pace of delivery, of all 1743 01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,920 Speaker 1: the talk show hosts. You are the WFB of our time, 1744 01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:45,240 Speaker 1: William F. Buckley going up in the sixties on Long Island. 1745 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,040 Speaker 1: The movie that meant Christmas to me was Laurel and 1746 01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,519 Speaker 1: Hardy in the March of the Wooden Soldiers. Wow, I've 1747 01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,960 Speaker 1: actually seen that many times too. That's interesting, Johan, I 1748 01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,640 Speaker 1: forgot about that movie. Buck. One thing I disagree with 1749 01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,560 Speaker 1: you about is coffee. We have a supermarket here that 1750 01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,760 Speaker 1: always has was one brand on sale. Recently I got 1751 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:02,519 Speaker 1: the big can at Chalk Full of Nuts for four 1752 01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,040 Speaker 1: ninety nine. In the queue. We also have cans of 1753 01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,800 Speaker 1: Maxwell House. The thing I am sure many veterans work 1754 01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,880 Speaker 1: for those companies too. Know. Something I don't like that 1755 01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,280 Speaker 1: is now happening is the inclusion of first responders with 1756 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,120 Speaker 1: the military, including the line thank you for your service. 1757 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 1: I was okay with my compensation in both, and I'm 1758 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,680 Speaker 1: no fan of the current adoration, but if we were 1759 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,160 Speaker 1: to have it, the military should be the ones that 1760 01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 1: get it, Johan. So a few things are. First of all, 1761 01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:29,759 Speaker 1: thank you for your kind words about my voice and delivery. 1762 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 1: And hopefully you didn't like it more yesterday than you 1763 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,479 Speaker 1: normally do, because that means that my cold, you know, 1764 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 1: my cold, and sinus infection voice is my best radio 1765 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,640 Speaker 1: voice because today I'm still in the misery of all that. 1766 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: But hey, if you like it, you like it, so 1767 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm just glad you're enjoying the show. But you're very 1768 01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,400 Speaker 1: kind and your support means a lot. As to March 1769 01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,320 Speaker 1: with the Wooden Soldiers, I've seen that many times too, 1770 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,080 Speaker 1: and I really liked that movie. I remember liking as 1771 01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,800 Speaker 1: a kid. I can't remember it that well now. And 1772 01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:58,960 Speaker 1: then as to coffee, like I just I'm friends with 1773 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,479 Speaker 1: the guys who run Black Rifle. It's a great company. 1774 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 1: The coffee is really honestly delicious. I mean it's not 1775 01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 1: just because they're a sponsor of the show, as you know, 1776 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,440 Speaker 1: they are a sponsor of the show. Their coffee is phenomenal, 1777 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,280 Speaker 1: and they're great guys and they're doing really, really good things. 1778 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,720 Speaker 1: As to the issue of first responders and veterans, you know, 1779 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 1: I can only speak to it from this perspective. I 1780 01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:21,560 Speaker 1: always feel a little I think there's a bit of 1781 01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:27,360 Speaker 1: discomfort that many of us who were civilians who served 1782 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 1: in the war zones feel when it comes to how 1783 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 1: we're supposed to present what we did or how especially 1784 01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,679 Speaker 1: in my case where I can't even really talk about 1785 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,160 Speaker 1: some of what I did any I can get pretty 1786 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,439 Speaker 1: annoyed sometimes because people say things like, oh, well, you 1787 01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,840 Speaker 1: were just an analyst, you were back at Langley. It's like, well, no, 1788 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:47,920 Speaker 1: actually I actually traveled with military and was armed and 1789 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,360 Speaker 1: was trained to fight. I mean, I was not somebody 1790 01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,800 Speaker 1: who was expected to just sit there at a desk, 1791 01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,599 Speaker 1: never go outside the wire or never do anything that said. 1792 01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,200 Speaker 1: I was also not a door kick or not a 1793 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 1: frontline person at all. Most of my time was spent 1794 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:05,000 Speaker 1: on bases. Keep in mind, you could also die on 1795 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,120 Speaker 1: base if there's an ambush, or if you're not an ambush, 1796 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,600 Speaker 1: an assault or mortar rounds. I mean, so it's not 1797 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 1: like it's some picnic being on these bases in the 1798 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 1: war zones either. But you know, where do we gauge that? 1799 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:16,640 Speaker 1: And I was think it's interesting, you know, so if 1800 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 1: somebody was if somebody served in the Coastguard, but I 1801 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 1: served in a rocket Afghanistan for the CIA, do I 1802 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,640 Speaker 1: do people tell me thank you for your service or not? 1803 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Did they tell a person who serving the Coastguard thank 1804 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,960 Speaker 1: you for your service? Somebody? You know, you get into 1805 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 1: and I think ultimately it's just serving your country, serving 1806 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:38,000 Speaker 1: your nation, serving your fellow Americans is a good thing 1807 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:41,880 Speaker 1: no matter what. And I leave the verbiage about this 1808 01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,680 Speaker 1: to other people. But yeah, I mean, first responders obviously 1809 01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,280 Speaker 1: have a very important role to play in society, and 1810 01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 1: what they do is great. But it's a big difference 1811 01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,880 Speaker 1: in being a first responder and being an Army ranger 1812 01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: who served three tours in Afghanistan. Right, there's a big 1813 01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,640 Speaker 1: difference between being quite honestly, if we're really going to 1814 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,320 Speaker 1: go there are a big difference in being somebody who 1815 01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,720 Speaker 1: served in the Air Force for a few years and 1816 01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,439 Speaker 1: never went anywhere outside the United States and somebody who 1817 01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,200 Speaker 1: did multiple tours as a marine in Iraq. Right, So 1818 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, and I think that we probably do ourselves 1819 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:19,599 Speaker 1: a disservice if we try to parse those things out. 1820 01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,639 Speaker 1: So it's just best to say thank you for your service. 1821 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 1: And those are you say thank you for your service 1822 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,240 Speaker 1: to me. I always appreciate it. It's it's kind of 1823 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:29,560 Speaker 1: you to say. But I joined the CIA for my 1824 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,960 Speaker 1: own reasons, and I joined the cias I wanted to 1825 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,160 Speaker 1: help US country after nine eleven, And quite honestly, there 1826 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:37,479 Speaker 1: are many days where I wish I joined the military instead, 1827 01:47:37,640 --> 01:47:39,880 Speaker 1: and I think that that's if I could go back 1828 01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 1: in life and do it over, I probably would do that. 1829 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,200 Speaker 1: But I did what I thought would be the best 1830 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,680 Speaker 1: way for me to serve at the time, and I 1831 01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,120 Speaker 1: had my frustrations with it. But you know, you can 1832 01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: see this turns into a complicated discussion pretty quickly, Josh Right. 1833 01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,479 Speaker 1: Everyone remembers die Hard as a Christmas movie, but no 1834 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,880 Speaker 1: one remember it, so is lethal Weapon. I honestly couldn't 1835 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,320 Speaker 1: choose a winner over those two. Both were iconic action 1836 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,080 Speaker 1: films for films for their own separate reasons. Your take, 1837 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,479 Speaker 1: die Hard is a Christmas movie, I didn't. I'm sorry, 1838 01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,960 Speaker 1: of course, die is a Christmas movie. Lethal Weapon, though, 1839 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:19,120 Speaker 1: is a Christmas movie. I didn't know. I'm trying to 1840 01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,400 Speaker 1: think back, I haven't. I haven't seen Lethal Weapon a while, 1841 01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,080 Speaker 1: and I've seen it so many times that I probably 1842 01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:27,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't watch it again. I think I've maxed out on 1843 01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:31,599 Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon viewings. As to which movie is better, die 1844 01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:35,280 Speaker 1: Hard is a better movie's better plot, better execution, better 1845 01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,599 Speaker 1: bad guys, Gary Abuse. He's pretty good as a psycho 1846 01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,720 Speaker 1: and lethal Weapon, but die Hard is arguably the best 1847 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,880 Speaker 1: action movie of all time, all things considered, It's certainly 1848 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:48,280 Speaker 1: in my top five, up there with Predator and a 1849 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:52,439 Speaker 1: few other movies. So I think Diehard really almost created 1850 01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,920 Speaker 1: its own genre of the smart action thriller. Jeam, that's 1851 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna be it for today. Thank you so much for 1852 01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,479 Speaker 1: being here. Please tell somebody about the show. Talk to 1853 01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:04,000 Speaker 1: you tomorrow, Shield Tie. Oh, guess what I'm doing tonight. 1854 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:09,160 Speaker 1: I am grilling up a delicious Omaha Steak burger for myself, 1855 01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,120 Speaker 1: and you should be doing the same. This holiday season. 1856 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,400 Speaker 1: Omaha Steaks is given an amazing limited time offer to 1857 01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,880 Speaker 1: my listeners. 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