1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: My half sister wanted to show up in a wedding 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: dress to my engagement parties, so I changed the party 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: themes so she would fit right in. This is okayop, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Home to the Craziest True Stories on Earth. I'm Sophia 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and Riley. What is your wedding party theme? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Amazing check. So ovs not Maine, says my half sister. 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: Heather and I never really got along. We're both twenty 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: four at the twins. No way, they're half sisters. We 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: just established that. Wow, that dad really cleansed much time. Yeah, 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: seems like there might be a little overlap those relationships. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: My father left my mother for her mother. There we go, 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: and we were born the same month, twenty days apart. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 2: Whoa, oh my god, same dad. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Same dad. No, yeah, he left like he left her 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: and then immediately had a baby with another one. Yikes. 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: It has always been weird. 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is weird. Sorry, between you and the dad, 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: or you. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: And your sister, between her and her sister. 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: Dang, that sucks. 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, also probably between dad and her. It doesn't help 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: that Heather's mom hates me and my mom by extension, 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Heather and I didn't have the best relationship. I feel 25 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: like a funny one gets to hate someone. It's the 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: og mom. 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks first. 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, she has always tried to one up me, even 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: though we both have a similar economic background. I can 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: give examples of this, but for the sake of the 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: word limit won't write them here. So now, my fiance 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: and I got engaged last month and our engagement party 33 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: is this Saturday. We had planned it originally as a 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: casual slash dash formal event. Casual formal form cash form 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: nice stresses, but not I'm going to the met gallop 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: ball nice, more like we're going to a good restaurant nice. Anyway, 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: my cousin hits me up, saying she has to show 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: me something. It was the picture of the dress Heather 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: was gonna wear. Uh put, I see you in the 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: comments if you see there. Okay, oh, I got a picture. 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: We have a picture of the dress. Whoa, that's the 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: dress she was gonna wear. Yea to the cash form. Yeh, 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: that's like she's like at the freaking Bridgerton Ball. This 44 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: is the diamond of the season. That's crazy. Where are 45 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: they having the No way? Opie says, this is what 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: the dress looked like approximately it was a little bit 47 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: shorter and a bit less puffy. The rest is almost identical. 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: That's insane. Wow, that takes like overdressing to the max. 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 50 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: I would just I don't know, maybe just she just 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: has more confidence. 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: She said, less puffy. 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but still like even if it was just like 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: a little bit tighter, that's. 55 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: That's still a lot going on. 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: White. 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: Wow, Oh my god, continues this dress Jesus Christ. It 58 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: can only be described as opulent. It was long and white, strapless, 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: with sown in crystals and golden accents. I'm pretty sure 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: it's a wedding dress, but I can't be one hundred percent. 61 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 2: That looks like a wedding dress. 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: That looks like a wedding dress, more gold going on. 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: I think if I think if the rule is if 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: it has a significant amount of white, it's it's you 65 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: can't wear it to a wedding. 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,119 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, But it's an engagement party. 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, which like last time we had talked about like, oh, 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, if it's not the actual wedding, how is 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: someone supposed to know? But I think that this is 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: that's just a weird thing to wear to an engagement party. 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: That's not supposed to be like formal. 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: She got a deal. I'm just hoping she got a deal. 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: How much did she pay for this dress? 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: Or it's a beef since bath beef since Beth? 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely you yeah, no, I think it's a weird 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: thing to do, unless you're trying to one of someone. 77 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Opie says. This made me really mad, so I decided 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: f that. I started texting people telling them that there 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: had been a change of plans and that instead of 80 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: a casual formal, I decided to make it a costume party. 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: This was the other story, but it was already a 82 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: costume party. 83 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: Huh. 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: My mother's side is crazy for Halloween, so they were 85 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: immediately on board. I told my father via text and 86 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: asked for him to relay the message to Heather or 87 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: her mother, knowing full well that he would forget or 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: leave it to the last minute, so she has plausible deniability. 89 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: So wow, what what like planning is going on? It's 90 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: so elaborate. It is yes, well thought through many cogs, 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: many wheels turning. I love that the father is like, no, 92 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: I'll do this, and then it's like whatever, no, op 93 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: is in her in her mind, she's she's saying, well, 94 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: I know that she's gonna wear a wedding dress, so 95 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: we're changing it to Halloween party, and then I'm going 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: to contact my father, but he won't remember, so then 97 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: she'll never know a mastermind plan. Yes, Saturday comes along, 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: guests starts showing up, most of them in costumes. Some 99 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't have time to get one. We just provided them 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: with fun hats and cheap wigs. Heather, my dad and 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: her mother come like one hour late as expected. As 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: soon as she notices that everyone was either wearing elaborate 103 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: costumes or weird accessories and she didn't stand out, she 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: lost it. Oh shoot, shikes, especially when my fiance came 105 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: along and told her that her bride dress looked amazing 106 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: for a cheap costume. Fiance is petty? 107 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: Really? 108 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: Is that's petty? 109 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: Really? 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: I love it. I love It's like, wow, that's that's 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: a great costume for for a cheap, cheap look. 112 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: Wow. 113 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: She left crying, and her mother and my father told 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: me that I was being childish and I could have 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: told Heather myself and not have tasked my father. That's 116 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: totally his fault. How can you blame that? No, no, no, no, 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: she told them. She told them. For those interested, my 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: fiance was dressed as Bubbles and I was dressed as 119 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: Mojo Jojo. Oh I love that from Powerfuff Girls. Oh 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: that's so cute. My mom and aunts were went as Abba. 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Other memorable costumes were Lufian Zero, Ian Malcolm and John 122 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: Hammond and Jesus Yo got. 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: Some wine at the party, Let's go. I love it. 124 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's turning all the water into wine. Uh. Edit, 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: So why did I invite her? Someone asks, I think 126 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty obvious, feel because you're half so saying you 127 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: share the same dad. Yeah, it's one of those weird 128 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: family situations where not inviting them would have been more dramatic, 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, when you try pleasing everyone. Plus, I still 130 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: wanted a relationship with my father, so not inviting Heather 131 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: and her mom would have made things super difficult and 132 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: made it so my father would have had to choose. 133 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: When I kept thinking of it, I noticed that my 134 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: father wouldn't have chosen me in this scenario, which is 135 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: why I ended up cutting them off. Oh so she 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: does end up cutting her father off too, that's I Yeah, 137 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: it seems like he chose this other family from the 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: get go from family. 139 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, put it according to Sam's theory. We're going to 140 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: rebrand his marriage rules. 141 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not calling it marriage rules. We're calling it theory. 142 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: Mine of the golden rules of dating or breaking up. 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but his is the golden theory. 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: Of he did quote one time you're allowed one new family. 145 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: What does that mean, like to stay together? Like like 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: he had one family and then he moved to a 147 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: new family. Yeah, all jokes, all jokes. 148 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: It was kind of funny. 149 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I can't do it twice, Yeah, that's all. 150 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 151 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: It's like when you when you switch your king and 152 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: your book and chess. 153 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah you could only castle once. 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And then another person says, you let her win. 155 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if she did. No, 156 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: that was the king queen's gambit. Moved to continue the 157 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: chess categories. 158 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: You won. 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, just because I mean, I guess they're saying, like, oh, 160 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: father chose the other family. But that's not that's not 161 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: that Yeah, that wasn't. That wasn't. 162 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: The point was half sister was going to show up 163 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: there be the best looking one there. 164 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: You made her look like cheap, a cheap skate cheap costume. 165 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Cheap costume costumes aren't cheap. Yeah, well deends going to 166 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: get them party. 167 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: City, Well like handmade, that's true. 168 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know my mom made my costumes from who? 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: From a fashion designer? 170 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Oh well, my mom made my costume, so I never 171 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: bought them any who uh OPI responds to, you'll let 172 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: her win with no, poor blake, The point of this 173 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: is to ruin my half sister's intention. Yeah, it wasn't 174 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: to win her father back. It was to sabotage her 175 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: top sister. She wasn't just dressed nicely, as some of 176 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: you put it. She wore a wedding dress to my 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: engagement party. I'd much rather subvert this whole mess rather 178 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: than have her smugly sitting at the table with her 179 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: wedding dress. Also, some of you are really hung up 180 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: on the cheap wigs part and ignore literally everything else 181 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: regarding the party. A minority of our guests wore those 182 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: cheap wigs. Also, it literally doesn't matter. We had a blast. 183 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: After she left, I didn't even th think of her 184 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: again until a few days later. I don't regret the 185 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: costume party. I wish I thought of it earlier at 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: tv H. But they're referring to some people didn't have 187 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: enough time to buy costumes, and so they provided some 188 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: cheap wigs. 189 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: People. 190 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: They literally provided stuff to make the party work. 191 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: I went to Nashville one time and there was a 192 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: bacheorette party and everyone had like cheap wigs and they 193 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: were dancing, had a great time. 194 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems fun. I want to wear costumes to 195 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: my engagement party. 196 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: You can do that. 197 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can. Thank you make the list, you will, 198 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: you will be. It's going to be. 199 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: I have to. 200 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: I have to have a big engagement and wedding part 201 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: because I just have so many people. 202 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I know why. Yeah, okay, I 203 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: have okay stories up about Sophia wanting to throw a 204 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: Valentine's Day party. 205 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I know, I don't even remember. 206 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: I'll tell remember the You were like, we need a 207 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: Balancize Day party because I want to show off my outfit. Yes, 208 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: that's what you will be doing at the wedding. You're like, 209 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: I don't care, I'm getting married. 210 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: I would want to do this. Yeah, it's probably gonna 211 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: be made by my mom, so I need to show 212 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: it off. 213 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone everyone look at my dress. 214 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, we're continue the story. Sorry, we got sidetracked. 215 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: So then another person says this is a karma whoring repost, 216 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: and Opie says, no, it isn't. I posted the story 217 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: before on Am I the a hole? I just had 218 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: to wait two weeks to post on here. Also, I 219 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: can't believe I have to say this, but the lady 220 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: in the picture is not Heather. It's also not the 221 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: dress she wore. I looked for a picture that looked 222 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: approximately like the dress. I don't care if you're from 223 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: Fox or Board Panda or BuzzFeed or whatever. No, I 224 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: won't give you an exclusive interview. This is not even newsworthy. 225 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Wtf kind of journalism is this supposed to be? And 226 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: there are some additional edits from Ope. I didn't think 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I would have to mention that I have indeed tried 228 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: to talk to Heather, her mother and my father a 229 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: million times about her behavior. It never helps, and she 230 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: just does something more outrageous. All the ways of diplomacy 231 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and dialogue have been exhausted, and so am I, hello, Elli, 232 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: I would be too atit too. Some people seem to 233 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: think this is about my wedding. It's an engagement party. 234 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: Heather wasn't the one to show me what she was 235 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: going to wear. My cousin did. Also, this is not 236 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: about Heather wearing a nice dress. Heather was going to 237 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: wear something that looked suspiciously like a wedding dress. The 238 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: dress code stated casual formal, not white tie. Relevant comments 239 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: Great Pop six four three says I saw your post 240 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: on Ammi the Ahle first. What you did was petty. 241 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: I love it. Please tell me you disinvited them to 242 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: your wedding after that, Opie says, I have officially gone 243 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: no contact with that side of the family. My father 244 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: was a spineless slug. I never looked forward to seeing 245 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: him and have little love left for him. Yeah, I 246 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: mean you don't know what You don't know him anything. 247 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: He chose his family. HDMX five three nine says Opie, 248 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I read your Ami the a Hole post. Why do 249 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: you have Heather in your life? Keep this in mind. Yes, 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: I get that you would like a relationship with your father. 251 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: That's fine, no judgment for me on that front. As 252 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: far as your father's wife and his child with her, 253 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: she might be a half sibling, but you have zero 254 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: obligation to her. I wouldn't keep inviting her anywhere, especially 255 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: since she tries to outshine you. In fact, I remember 256 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: commenting on your Ami the a hole post. If your 257 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: father is insisting that to have a relationship with him, 258 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: you must have one with his wife and child, Well 259 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: there's a choice for you to make. I would not 260 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: tolerate this disrespect, bullying, and abuse by her. She may 261 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: share a father with you, but she's really gross and 262 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have her in my life. 263 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: No contact though, Yeah, crazy as you should. 264 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it feels like a big decision, But it 265 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: just seems that, over and over again, the father is 266 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: choosing the half sister and the new mom, and I 267 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't want that person in my life. 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. 269 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 270 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: I feel like it's weird how the half sister is 271 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: doing all of this, because in a way, she probably 272 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: feels like. 273 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: She's competing for the attention with the guy. 274 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: Oh Op is better than me, so I have to 275 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: do all this. OPI is about to get married, she 276 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: might not have a significant other or whatever. Yeah, I 277 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: need to show out, YadA YadA, yadah. I they're probably 278 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: after this. She probably will think back of more instances 279 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: throughout her life. 280 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would This behavior is like a pattern. Also, 281 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: it might be some jealousy on the half sister's part 282 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: because OPI is the og daughter, Yeah, the real one, 283 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: the real daughter. But yeah, I mean it might be 284 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: some insecurity or jealousy about that the whole separate family situation. 285 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, because I mean that is a hard thing 286 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: to deal with on either end of it. Yeah, I 287 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: don't know how I would. 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I have brothers like trying to like out 289 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: do me, maybe I was the brother that out did them. Yeah. 290 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: My mom had to talk with me one time. She's like, 291 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: stop talking about how good your grades are. It's making 292 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: tas sad. And I was like, Okay, was that sibling. 293 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: I think I did that when I was like little, 294 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: because I had a lot of I didn't have a 295 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: lot of friends, but I had like a couple of 296 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: very close friends and Sam's the boys at Sam school 297 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: were really mean, and so I remember always being like, 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I have so many friends. I'm almost like stop. I 299 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: was very little, but yeah, oh wow, maybe we're the problem. 300 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Maybe we're the problem. 301 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: But we've we've grown, we've recognized the errors of our way. 302 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: Have we Is that a call out to either of us? 303 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: Maybe we need to do more self reform. 304 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to do more work. We need to 305 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: uplift our siblings, comment. 306 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: The places we need to self reflect on. 307 00:15:54,280 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is an update twenty months later. Whoa did 308 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: they say? This feels like when like parents are like, 309 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: my baby's twenty two months old? 310 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, after a year? Just sudden? Yeah let it be sorry, sorry, 311 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: mom's bud. 312 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, just say like a year and something. Anyway, so 313 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: Opie says, I had planned countless times to update this post. 314 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: I even asked the mods if it was allowed, but 315 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: I was too lazy and always stopped halfway through. Lol. Anyway, 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: I keep seeing my post on em mother effing TikTok yep. 317 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: I also saw an account that pretended to have an update, 318 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: and it's just the Minecraft, the playing Minecraft in the background. 319 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Apparently my husband cheated with my half sister, my mother exploded, 320 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: and my grandma is a dog. Yeah, Opie's got jokes. 321 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Uh to the update, I got married, congratulates. Oh please, 322 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: it was an eventful and thankfully drama free day. Whoa, 323 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: that's what we like to hear. Let's go. My father 324 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: was not in attendance, good for you. After my engagement party, 325 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: I realized that he would never choose me willingly. Even 326 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: if he loves me, he doesn't love me enough to 327 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: stand up for me. He constantly allows his wife and 328 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: daughter to walk over me and even become abusive. That 329 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: was really apparent when he blamed Ope for not telling 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: the haff sister directly when she literally told him and 331 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: he didn't pass on them. 332 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 333 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: So I wrote him a lengthy email from my old 334 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: school day's an email account, and it detailed my resentful 335 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: feelings against him and uninvited him from the wedding that 336 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: I logged out because I know myself I would be 337 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: upset with his answer, and if he wouldn't answer, I 338 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: would also be upset. I also blocked him and his 339 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: family from all access and I went cold turkey freezing 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: even I changed phone providers, deleted my social media accounts 341 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: for a while. He did try to contact me through 342 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: my mother. She said it was just upsetting, so I 343 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: told her I didn't want to know. So I just 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: cut him off, and boy, my life improved drastically. We 345 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: had an amazing wedding and unhitched things that happen after 346 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: the wedding, I got a cease and desist letter from 347 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: my half sister. It's like, stop, I'm confused because I'm 348 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: My understanding of a seasoned desist letter is like stop 349 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: doing these actions. Like, for example, if someone was constantly 350 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: harassing you by a text or something, you could say 351 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: desist or will pursue legal actions. But it doesn't seem 352 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: like that's what. 353 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right. 354 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a continued action, you know, but that's not 355 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you just cut her off, so I 356 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: don't understand, talk to me, season your silence stop uh 357 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: if he continues. It was very vague and weird, but 358 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: we quickly found out that it was only a Google 359 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: copy pasta or Google copy paste. I think that's a pasta. 360 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: It might be Google. Let me google copy paste. 361 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 3: Though. 362 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: My stepmother followed me to the supermarket and tried to 363 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: intimidate me to apologize to Heather. She made the produce 364 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: section wildly uncomfortable. I feel like you could send out 365 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: a seasoned desist letter to her alone. There I'm trying 366 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: to pick out my veggies. My father tried to pick 367 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: me up at work. He was walking next to me 368 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: while I went to my car. He was trying to 369 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: get me to apologize to Heather and her mom. 370 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm just seeing Heather and her mom being like following 371 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: the background. 372 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: He said that I should be the bigger person and 373 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: that I know how both of them are. So I 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: just told him that he must be mistaken because my 375 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: father is dead. He just stood there as I drove off. 376 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: Whooa Obias did not come to play. This is really 377 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: weird though, that they're trying to do all this stuff. 378 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they're trying to corner her, Yeah, apologize, 379 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: and it's. 380 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: It's so manipulative because they're not trying. They're not trying 381 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: to get Opee back into their life by recognizing what 382 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: they did. They're instead just seeking retribution for this. Just 383 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: change of party caught, you know, change of attire at 384 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: a party. 385 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: If they feel so guilty about everything, Yeah, that this 386 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: is why they're being so forceful. 387 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: No, I think it is a measure of guilt, but 388 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: also an inability to recognize their own fault in it. 389 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: And it's like those two warring things and they need 390 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: O piece. It seems like they needed O Pie's approval 391 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: or you know something in that night yeah, but the 392 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: only way they then or they will do it is 393 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: by getting her to apologize. But they want her back 394 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: in her their life so they can walkle over. But 395 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: they refuse to apologize actually accept what they did wrong. 396 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: And that's my parapresisation. 397 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: Their position. 398 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they carry their positions. Yeah, then they started to 399 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: bother the rest of my extended family. Heather and her 400 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: mom apparently want them to cut me off finally, but they, oh, 401 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: he already cut them off. You can't cut opee off back. 402 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Which you cut a part of the string. You can't. 403 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: You can't recut the string. Yeah, it's cut, which backfired 404 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: spectacularly because now they are cut off, which also means 405 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that they're excluded from a lot of family events that 406 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: they were looking forward to. Plus they can't use my 407 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: uncle's cabin it likes. So Heather's mom has allegedly been 408 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: at her sisters since the whole breakdown. I have to 409 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: be honest, I don't know how much of this is true. 410 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: As you know, the toxic gossip rain always has to 411 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: be taken with a grain of salt. I don't know, 412 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: but I think it's funny and sad. Thing is that 413 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't even miss my father. His absence has made 414 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: zero negative effect on my life. We did have one 415 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: more cost party around Halloween, but this time we gave 416 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: everyone more time and it was even more fun. My 417 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: mom's side of the family all pitched in. We got 418 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: a venue and invited a bunch of people. I recommend 419 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: this totally. I met so many of my cousin's friends 420 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: who I have kept in touch with. Nothing else has changed. 421 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I still have my old job, I'm not pregnant. We 422 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: have the same old apartment. We did re decorate though, 423 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: So that is all for me, not all too dramatic. 424 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: And there are two relevant comments. Tillie Jane says, what 425 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: was the fake cease and desist for to stop holding 426 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: costume parties? Opie says, for disruptive behavior. I found the 427 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: template she used and everything. What disruptive behavior. Bron Adgirl 428 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: one says, just curious, how is your mom with your 429 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: father and all of this? Is she married? Hopefully she 430 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: did better after the trash took itself out. 431 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: Ooh. 432 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Opie says she has a longtime partner. He's very lovely. 433 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Y god, it looks like things are good. 434 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, things are on the up and up. Yeah, it 435 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: seems like they were just creating problems and it's better 436 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: that they're not there. Yeah, because they don't want to 437 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: apologize or accept what they did the wrong. They just 438 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: want to manipulate Op. Yeah, we don't need that type 439 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: of energy in our lives. 440 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: Cut it out. 441 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four. Yeah, twenty twenty four is cutting out 442 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the red flags in your relationships. And if that's your dad, 443 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: then dump them. Dump them. Oh yeah, you're wearing such 444 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: a great hat for this, thank you, thank you. I 445 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: was also going to say I love that they threw 446 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: another costume party. 447 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 2: They were like, that was so good the first time, 448 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: let's do it it can. 449 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: I love that this plot became just a real u. 450 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: It helped OP discover a real passion for costumes. 451 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: Years later after they do it for like decades, Yeah, 452 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: they'll be like, well remember the first the. 453 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: First one when we when we plotted against my half sister. 454 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: That's what it is, my evil step mother. I think 455 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: we should throw a costume party on Halloween. I'm so 456 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: down because I missed Halloween this year. I was in Rome, 457 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: and wait, that's the best place to be for Halloween. 458 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't. I had to deal with weird Italian men 459 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: grabbing my arm. I didn't like them, and everyone was 460 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: smoking and someone tried to steal my friend's hat. 461 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: Yeah that does sound like fun, No it didn't. I 462 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: had to work on Halloween here. Yeah, I was producing. 463 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: That's sad. 464 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: And then I was Mari. I was Luigi and my 465 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 2: friend was Mario. 466 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: I love that I was a pirate because that was 467 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: I had to work with my very limited closet, because 468 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I only had a backpack. What I was a pirate 469 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: because I could only work with what I had in 470 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: my backpack. 471 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh cute. What were you guys for Halloween? 472 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 473 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: What will you be for Halloween this year? Because I 474 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: have to start. I really got to start thinking about 475 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: it now. I want to be yeah, I mean no, 476 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: not now, but I do want to be something cool 477 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: this year. Maybe we should go as a group thing. 478 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: That's what I did the year before I went my 479 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: house went as the Scooby Doo Gang. I was Fred. 480 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Oh yo, Yeah, we low key kind of the Scooby 481 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: Doo Gang. 482 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we can't be scook Scooby Doo Gang again. 483 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, You're at Hopefully I'll have a 484 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: couple costumes. 485 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: It would be kind of fun if we did like Pokemon, 486 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: like like ash Misty Brock. 487 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: You don't like Pokemon. 488 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: That's weird. 489 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Yep, you know it's not weird. 490 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: This next story, Oh fiance twenty nine female cheated on 491 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: her bachelorette party. I thirty two male, am struggling to 492 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: decide the next steps. This is okayop, home to the 493 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: craziest true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia and Riley. How 494 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: do you cheat on your bachelorette party? You have two 495 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: bachelorette parties? Yeah, and you you're you're two timing them. 496 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: You're ting, you're doing like the twenty seven dresses thing 497 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: where you're going back and forth between parties, like, hey, 498 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: gotta use bathroom, Yeah yeah, run yeah, like you're changing 499 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: in the cat. 500 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: I have to I gotta go tie my shoe. 501 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I gotta go drink some water. Throw 502 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: a broken and lost says I'm sorry if this is 503 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: just a bunch of rambling, I just need a place 504 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: to write down everything that has happened and hopefully get 505 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: some advice on what to do next. My fiance twenty 506 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: nine female and I thirty two I have been together 507 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: for about seven years now. Ohoa, I feel like that's 508 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: not too crazy. Does get married? 509 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I should give it like four or five? 510 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: Four or five. 511 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never married that foar. 512 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, if your goal is to get married, like, 513 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: don't go over ten. 514 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: This is true. Yeah, unless you're like waiting to give 515 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: her the best wedding ever. 516 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, but again, I think it's just a goal. Like, 517 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: if your goal is never to get married, it doesn't matter. 518 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: You can date forever. Yeah, but if your goal is 519 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: to get married, don't don't. Don't drag it out. I guess, 520 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: don't do. We were supposed to get married next month. 521 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: Before all this happened. We had no issues with cheating 522 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: or any big fights. This is the first time anything 523 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: like this has happened between us. 524 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: Ah. Oh no, that's so tough. So there was no 525 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: red flags. 526 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: There were no red flags. And then a month before 527 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: they're married, like they're gonna get married. About two weeks ago, 528 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: my fiance approached me and asked me if I would 529 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: be open to us having a bachelor and bachelorette party. 530 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: This was something that made me really uncomfortable personally. I 531 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: believe that these kinds of parties only serve to encourage 532 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: infidelity before a couple gets married, and that they aren't 533 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: something I'd be interested in. I just realized, what the 534 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound so stupid when people watch this. I 535 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: just realized what the title meant. I thought they cheated 536 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: on the book the bachelorette party, like they had multiple 537 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: bachelorette parties. Oh, but they cheated at the bachelorette parties. 538 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: Like why did you say that? Yeah, I'm like, uh okay. 539 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 3: I thought they cheated like on their their bachelorette party people, 540 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: but they cheated on their partner at their friend This. 541 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Is what happens when you read too many cheating stories. Yeah. 542 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is crazy. How do you 543 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: cheat on an entire bachelorette party? No, okay, I'm sorry, guys. 544 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a brain fart. I 545 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: expressed that to my fiance, but she told me that 546 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: if we did have them, they'd just be friends hanging 547 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: out with us, celebrating our future wedding, and that we 548 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't have the stereotypical last Night of Freedom kind of party. 549 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: After talking for a bit and establishing some boundaries, we 550 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: agreed to have the parties on the same day, which 551 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: happened to be this past Wednesday. When Wednesday came around, 552 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: my friends came over to our place for a game 553 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: of D and D hell Ya that was supposed to 554 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: be themed around my character getting married, while my fiance 555 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: went out with her friends for a pub crawl. I 556 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I like Op's version. Yeah, that sounds great. 557 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: I was having fun with my friends until about roughly 558 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: three hours into our game, when one of my fiancees 559 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: and I mutual friends texted me and told me that 560 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: we needed to talk. Whoah. Obviously I immediately became concerned 561 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: and asked her what was going on, but she said 562 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: that she didn't feel comfortable discussing over text and said 563 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: that she'd rather speak to me in person. This really 564 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: messed me up, and for the next hour I couldn't 565 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: really focus on anything else because I kept wondering what 566 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: could possibly be so important that she wanted to come 567 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: over and talk to me. She ruined the whole D 568 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: and D vibe, but like, no, it's important, it is important, 569 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: but I love that you said that. By the time 570 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: she arrived, my friends and I had already wrapped things up, 571 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: so I was just waiting for her to come. She 572 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: came in and asked for us to sit down and talk, 573 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: which is when she revealed to me that my fiance 574 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: used the party as an opportunity to cheat on me. 575 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 2: No, was that wait at. 576 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: The pup crawl? 577 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no. 578 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: No, unbelievable. 579 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: Do you think conspiracy theory? 580 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 581 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: Do you believe she intentionally made it, made it on 582 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: the same day so she could or do you think 583 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: it just happened? 584 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if it Yeah, I don't 585 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: know if it matters if it was, like you know, 586 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: planned or not. I think that if you're gonna cheat, 587 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: because I think if that if you're going to cheat, 588 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: you're going to cheat. I don't think that Op's original 589 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: point of I don't like achela parties because I think 590 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: they create a space for infidelity is necessarily true. But 591 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: I do think that you have to have a conversation 592 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: about what type of bachelor at or bachelor party you're 593 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: okay with. Yeah, because you know, when you have the 594 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: stripper things, I think that's weird, that's so sad. Yeah, 595 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: unless you and your partner are like going to that 596 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: together and you're both on the same page and you 597 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: love that all the more to you. But I think 598 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: it is weird when you're not, you know, informing your partner. 599 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because the way this is framed is like 600 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: use the party as an opportunity to cheat on me. 601 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: It sounds like it was pre planned. 602 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: It might be, which is also awful. But I think 603 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: either way, even if it wasn't pre planned, she cheated 604 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: on you. Yeah, and that's not a yeah, that's not okay. 605 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: I think it would hurt more if it was pre planned. 606 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: It would be really I think it would be really 607 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: weird if she pre planned it, I'd be like, why 608 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: would you do that? Why did you need to pre 609 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: plan a party to cheat on me? Op says. I 610 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: immediately felt like Mike Tyson had punched me in the chest. 611 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: This was exactly what I was afraid of when my 612 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: fiance first approached me about having these parties, and she 613 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: assured me that was the furthest thing from her mind. 614 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: Until then, I had no reason not to trust her, 615 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: so I believed her. I felt so stupid for not 616 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: seeing this coming. I don't think you're stupid. I think 617 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: that's totally on her. 618 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, as humans, we always expect the best out of people. 619 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: I think the expectation from your partner, it does not 620 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: matter if they're having a bachelor party or just going 621 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: out with friends, is that they won't cheat on you. 622 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: That is always the expectation. I asked my friend if 623 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: she was sure of what happened, and she showed me 624 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: a video of my fiance kissing some guy at a bar. 625 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: Apparently the video was shared in a group chat that 626 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: my fiance and her friends were on to plan the party. 627 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know how I didn't break down crying 628 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: when I was showed the video. I felt like I 629 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: was going to throw up. There was the woman that 630 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: I was supposed to spend the rest of my life 631 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: with kissing another man while her friends cheat her on. 632 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: What horrible friends. Jesus, that's not cool condoning that type 633 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: of behavior. This next part is my friend's recollection at 634 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: the events that led up to the cheating, so I 635 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of details. Apparently, my fiance's 636 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: maid of honor spent the entire night complaining that I 637 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't let them have a traditional bachelorette party and that 638 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: I was too controlling and jealous whoa her friends suck, 639 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: her friends suck. There is a difference between not letting 640 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: your habit, not letting your partner have a party at all, 641 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: that is too controlling, but being asking your partner not 642 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: to cheat on you, to be respectful of your relationship. 643 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: That is not control, That is just having respect for 644 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: your partner that you're about to get married to. My 645 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: fiance didn't push back on any of it, and just 646 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: kept drinking and having her fun. At some point, some 647 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: of the women noticed that she had been getting attention 648 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: from some of the men, which is when the maid 649 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: of honor started to encourage her to flirt. My fiance 650 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: gave some weak resistance, but eventually she gave in and 651 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: approached one of the guys at the bar. This is 652 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: the point where our mutual friend became uncomfortable and left 653 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: to the party early, but she was still in the 654 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: group chat where the video was shared. I thanked my 655 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: friend for telling me what happened and asked her to 656 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: ford me the evidence, along with anything else that might 657 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: end up being shared with her. After she left, I 658 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: finally broke down crying, then texted my fiance telling her 659 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: that I knew the wedding was off. Just a few 660 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: minutes later, my phone was flooded with text messages from 661 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: her and her friends. They even tried adding me to 662 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: the group chat where they shared the video of her 663 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: kissing the other man. She got why just to like 664 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: harass him. She got home after thirty minutes later. She 665 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: was crying when she came in and begged me not 666 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: to call off the wedding. She was telling me that 667 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: she was drunk and that she didn't know what came 668 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: over her. She claimed that she didn't do anything other 669 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: than kissing and that she loved me. I stayed silent 670 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: through all of her crying, which I think only made 671 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: her more desperate. She kept saying how sorry she was, 672 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: how it would never happen again, and how she would 673 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: cut off all the friends that were at her party. 674 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: This is not about her friends. We all know her 675 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: friends suck. This is about her own actions. If you 676 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: can take responsibility for your act, she's pushing it off 677 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: on her being drunk and her friends being a bad influence. 678 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: But this is all her, This is all you. My 679 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: friends didn't forced her to do anything. I told her 680 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: that I didn't want to talk about what happened and 681 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: that the wedding was still off. I also told her 682 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: that she could call her friends over and have the 683 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: traditional party she obviously wanted so much because I was leaving. 684 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: This made her even more desperate, and I kid you, 685 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: not made her try to block the door to prevent 686 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: me from leaving. I just stayed silent while packing my bag. 687 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: Then called my sister over and asked her if I 688 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: could stay with her for a couple of days. I 689 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: have now been at my sister's house for the last 690 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: few days, calling friends and family to tell them that 691 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: the wedding is off. I haven't told anyone other than 692 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: my sister the reason. I just feel so humiliated. My 693 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: ex has been calling and texting me every day for 694 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: the past two days. My sister has been offering me support, 695 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: but I just don't know what to do next. I 696 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: feel so lost. Despite everything that happened, I still love her. 697 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: Should I hear my fiance out? Should I tell people 698 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the reason the wedding is off? Is their any hope 699 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: for reconciliation? 700 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you counseling a wedding is probably 701 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 2: cheaper than divorce. 702 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think at this point I know it's 703 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: been seven years, but you're not on the same page 704 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: about what's respectful in a relationship. I think this is 705 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: just a really great indicator of what the rest of 706 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: married life will look like too. And I think that 707 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're getting out at the right time. 708 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: I hate the like just the environment. Yeah that she 709 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: set up and okay, here's my question. Yeah, it was 710 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: just Yes, she did cheat, but they've been together for 711 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 2: seven years. Yeah, and it was kissing at a bar. Yeah, 712 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: on a bachelorette party. Would you still stay together with 713 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: your partner after that? 714 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably not, I think, especially because seven years. Yes, 715 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: seven years. But Opie specifically said, hey, these are my fears, 716 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: yeah about you having a bachelor bachelorette party, and Opie's 717 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: fiance said, no, I wouldn't. I'm not even thinking about that, 718 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: that's not even on my mind, and then went out 719 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: and did that. 720 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: So it's the fact that he set boundary. 721 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Set boundaries and they were broken yeah. 722 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 2: Because I was like, which I mean, it still sucks, 723 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: yeah that, but without the boundaries party, would you still 724 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,959 Speaker 2: like break it off? 725 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I still would. I understand there's a world where 726 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: some people might not because it's been seven years and 727 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: they're about to get married, and you might you know, 728 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: some people might be a bit more forgiving in these scenarios. 729 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: But I think if this is Opie's initial feeling that 730 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I want to break off this wedding, I think that 731 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: they have to follow that. 732 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think. 733 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: That they're saying I still love her. Of course they're 734 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: still going to love her. This is recent, This isn't 735 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: something You're not going to stop loving her even if 736 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 1: she hurts you. But I still think that it's valid 737 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: for you to take this course of action because she 738 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: did hurt you, and she did break that boundary and 739 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: break that promise. 740 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 2: Yikes. Um, that's so tough. 741 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that really really sucks. And there are some relevant comments. 742 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: Reasonable Major sixteen seventy eight says, was there more than kissing? 743 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: Ope says according to my fiance, No, she kissed the 744 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: guy then went straight back to her friends. They were 745 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: on their way to the next bar when she received 746 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: my text telling her that the wedding was off. Whoa, 747 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: that was a live time whoa. Wow. Reasonable Major sixteen 748 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: seventy eight says a lot of things could have happened 749 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: during that time, And I guess after that you don't 750 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: have much trust in her. Also, do you think her 751 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: friends set her up? Opie says, you're right that the 752 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: trust is pretty much gone. I don't think that this 753 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: was a setup. From the way our mutual friends described it, 754 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: it felt like an opportunity presented itself, while the rest 755 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: of the group egged my fiance on. Yeah yeah, a 756 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: ginger snap forty nine forty nine says to me, that 757 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: just feels like she's not taking full accountability and is 758 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 1: willing to put quite a bit of blame on her friends. Yeah, 759 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: that's the thing. It might have been different if she 760 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: had reacted and said, I this was completely my fault. 761 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: I made a bad decision, but you know, but there's 762 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: no responsibility. 763 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, take it. And I feel like when people shift 764 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: like that, they know it's their fall. Yeah, and they 765 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: don't want to they don't want to accept that. 766 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: No, Nile Yeah, ginger snuff continues, Yes, they should be 767 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: cut off. My friends would never have encouraged that scenario, 768 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: put me, or let me put myself in a situation 769 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: that could result in that much less cheer it on 770 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: and encourage it. They would have dragged my ass from 771 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: the bar long before it could go that far. People 772 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: are who they surround themselves with. Are any of them married? 773 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: I'd be curious how any and all of those bachelorette 774 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: parties have gone. And if this is a pattern for 775 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: that group. The friend that came to you seems to 776 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: be the only one with morals. I have zero tolerance 777 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: for cheating. Once that trust is gone, it really doesn't 778 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: ever fully come back. I couldn't deal with always wondering 779 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: or questioning her motives. Opie responds. I don't know all 780 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: of her friend group that well, but to my knowledge, 781 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: only the friend that came to me and told me 782 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 1: what was happening is married. 783 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's so tough. I hate the lack of 784 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 2: respect that her friends had for their relationship. Yeah, it's like, 785 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: going forward, if they were okay with this being at 786 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 2: the bachelorette party and they worked this out, her friends 787 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: are still not going to look at him as a 788 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: good enough partner for her and it's just going to 789 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 2: be bad. And that's a great question. Or any of 790 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: them married, Yeah, they probably don't even have that perspective 791 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: in their mind because are like they're all single. They're like, oh, 792 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: just have fun, it's fine, Like the world's yours, but 793 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: the married ones like no, like. 794 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: This is a commitment, commitment, And again I just hate 795 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: the idea of this is your last night of freedom 796 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: for a bachelorette party. Because marriage is a certificate. It 797 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: doesn't change the the boundaries or you know, the prem 798 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: of your relationship. It is purely a certificate. It shouldn't 799 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: be changing that much of your relationship. You should have 800 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: respect before and you should have respect after. 801 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was Michael. We went to Bali with him 802 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 2: and he was talking about how whenever people celebrate things 803 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: and make this big, like whenever you graduate, you have 804 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: like this little moment of time, whenever you walk across 805 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: the stage, right, Yeah, when you get married, Yeah, that 806 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: little ceremony wherever you get the bride. But like, like 807 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: you said, it's still the same. Yeah, just yeah, one 808 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: little thing happens in the net. 809 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and a celebration is great. I love a celebration, 810 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: and it is okay to make it a big deal. 811 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, it your relationship is the same as it 812 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: was before. It is not a past to cheat just 813 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: because you're not married. Medale nine says, I'm curious about 814 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: what the boundaries were that you mutually sat for these parties. 815 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: What exactly did you two agree to? Op says, no 816 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: strippers or any other kind of sex workers, no staying 817 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: out until too late, no getting hammered, and no tempting infidelity. 818 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree about the nose staying 819 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: out too late, but everything else. Yeah, those are bad concerns. Yeah, 820 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: that's a fair thing. And there is an update from 821 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: two months later, which would be after the wedding, because 822 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: the wedding was a month from then. 823 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: Do you think they worked it out? 824 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think if it's two months later, 825 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they worked it out. Yeah, but let's 826 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: find out